I'm glad the deniers say it's a hoax because the sun is not currently burning hotter than normal even thought the last 20 years have been some of the warmest on record, even though deniers say it's getting cooler and we're getting ready to go into an ice age which is why the polar ice caps are melting and the gulf stream stands to be destabalized by the melting glaciers in Greenland. Otherwise I to would be concerned!

Hey Toasty: I'm sure if you look in the mirror, you might not believe it's you.

I'm glad the deniers say it's a hoax because the sun is not currently burning hotter than normal even thought the last 20 years have been some of the warmest on record,

Its not what the sun is doing its the alignment of our planet reflecting the sun.

As evidenced above, the excuses now offered by the deniers are becoming lamer and lamer by the day. They're having to work harder and harder to deny anthropogenic climate change.

Lusitania, just how did the alignment of our planet change recently to cause this recent change in global temperatures?

Pretty soon the Arctic will completely and forever melt away. There will still be deniers alleging (A) it's natural, (B) it's cyclical, (C) it doesn't matter, (D) it's beneficial. REALLY?

What is this, April Fools Day?

AB-1981

If the Galactic alignment happens only every 26,000 yrs. it would stand to reason our sun might be shinning on us at a more brilliant spectrum, and why couldnt this be gradual..

Im just not willing to throw in all my chips on a man made phenomenon even though i believe in being environmentally conservative.

Actually, I didn't see a word in this article about climate change or global warming. If you want to take these record highs for March as evidence of global warming, that's fine. But the article didn't say a thing about it.

Everything seems to be coming to head...Religion haters, Global warming, Galactic alignment and deniers of all three, coincidence.

Uh, Lusitania? Axial tilt is what makes the seasons, not climate change...

Actually, the earth's orbit of the sun is not a perfect circle, it is a varying ellipse. If we are closer to the sun during a particular season, it will be warmer. Considering that the temperatures are going up world wide, that is not the cause. It may well not have anything to do with anything man is doing, but why wait until it is too late to think about doing something? If you smell smoke in your house, do you wait until you see flames? We know we are increasing the CO2 at an alarming rate, do we wait until the coastal cities start to flood? There are a lot of islands around the world that are becoming uninhabitable because of salt water flooding and salt in the ground water. The coral is so porous, the water perks up out of the ground, so sea walls are of no use.

Toasty.. you discovered im not a Science Astronomer nor Planetary Scientist.. Prove to me the position of our Planets affects and un-affects..

That would be like me trying to prove to the squirrel in my yard that the earth revolves around the sun.

Really?-1739510, climate change (caused by global warming) makes both summers and winters more severe. It also makes the weather more unstable. Get it?

Geez man, I was just helping you out.

Really? youre referring to the Paleocene-Ecocene Themal Maximum, the last major extinction event prior to the one we're currently in the midst of. Nothing to worry about, some species survived that one, some species will survive this one and life will go on.... besides, the big guy with a grey beard up in the sky is going to come down in flaming chariot and make everything right again. Isn't that what you believe?

i agree with you, and to think that those godless communists wanted to turn the world into a one world government by using statistically normal weather from predictable heavier solar activity (max of the cycle) and turning it around to make it seem like its some bogus claim of man made global warming...hahahahaha, those communists, when will they ever learn.

This particular occurrence doesn't mean anything. But as global warming continues and sea levels rise, I do want all you republicker anti-science morons to make sure that the folks who can afford waterfront properties don't use any of my tax money to make themselves whole after their quaint little vacation bungalows get washed away.

At this rate, we have another 700 years or so before we attain that 9 degree increase.

Don't believe the article then? Because according to the article we're halfway there...

At any rate, climate change is just that, change. I live near one of the cities listed above and I can tell you no one even remembers stories of the kind of weather we've had in March.

I'd like to say one thing to all of you nay-sayers- just because you don't understand the science doesn't make it untrue.

No matter how much Brawndo! you use to water the fields they still aren't gonna grow...

Really? increased CO2 in the atmosphere is dissolved by water forming carbonic acid which falls as acid rain. This interferes with nutrient uptake by plants. CO2 enrichment works in a greenhouse because soil pH is controlled. Acid rain is damaging to forests and rivers and streams. Acidification in the ocean damages all organisms that make calcareous shells. You're an idiot.

@Really?,

1) You have confused climate and weather. The two are not the same and in may ways are not even related. It's a simple mistake that a lot of ill-informed people make to let others know that they have no idea what they are talking about.

2) We stop the tides all the time. Ever heard of seawalls.

3) The Chinese are dramatically pushing to end their own dependence on coal, mostly because it is running out. They are now the leaders in solar and wind power and in three more years will lead in nuclear power.

4) PetroChina indeed did not exist 13 years ago, but it is nothing more than a combination of existing companies. And it does, just like the US, drill everywhere it can.

5) Germany is giving up solar (and next year wind) subsidies because the solar and wind industries are now self-sufficient there and do not need them. The shutdown of their nuclear powerplants was, in some part, responsible for pushing the solar and wind power industries into the black, but it would have happened eventually anyway. And the Germans, by 9:1 are pleased with the shutdown of their nuclear powerplants. Most Germans wish that they had never been built in the first place. It is still a major expense for them since they still have billions of euros to spend on decomissioning and radioactive waste displsal and storage.

6) That at one time the earth was 9 degrees warmer is just oneof those BS factiods. It was also 22 degrees warmer and 34 degrees cooler. It is a meaningless statistic.

7) There is actually a lag time of about 800 years that accompanies much of global warming. This is because the oceans tend to absoirb heat and "buffer" the change. That was the whole crux of the "tipping point" argument that I guess you missed.

8) Climate is not a linear system. It is chaotic. If you do not know the difference, as obviously you don't, then you are basically unable to understand the discussion.

You portray yourself as being like a child listening to adults talk shop. The child recognozes some of the words but mostly has no idea what the adults are talking about. Your post comes across as much like a child who has been eavesdropping on the adults and now wants to particupate in the conversation. Any one with kids knows the situation well. Parents are always so embarrassed for their kids when they do that.

Lovin' the warm weather here in Chicago! April 1 is a great day for a global warming hoax! The previous 5 winters in Chicago have been far snowier and colder than "normal". Of course the hoaxers blamed global warming. Now due to Pacific currents, we are having a nice warm winter, and that is global warming also.

Their hoax defies imagination and science. Let's see: If it is cold that is due to global warming. If it is hot, that is also due to global warming! Who needs science with misguided logic like that.

Hey guys, go delete some more emails. I am going to work in my yard.

Look at all the deniers, I can't help but sit back and laugh while I read their comments. I mean, really, who are you going to believe? Climatologists from all over the world (IPCC), or a bunch random commenters and politicians who have something to gain from the energy lobby. I've taken multiple classes on climate change, I've done independent research, and it is now completely apparent to me that it is in-part due to man and it is in fact occurring.

You can deny it to the grave, it doesn't matter. The policy-makers around the world are already working on the problem, as is our own EPA. Cyclical climate change does happen, no one disputes that, but you have to understand that that is not a logical argument against the incidence of man-made climate change.

Cutting my yard in March sucks.

@Really - you state:

8) Climate is not a linear system. It is chaotic. If you do not know the difference, as obviously you don't, then you are basically unable to understand the discussion.

I find this hysterically funny. Do you not understand that a chaotic system is defined, in part, by extreme sensitivity to very small inputs? In other words, given a small input you see massive changes in the system well out of scale relative to the small input.

Our injection of more CO2 more quickly than ever in the earth's history is not exactly a small input. You can make any claim you want, Reality has no obligation whatsoever to respect your opinion.

Climate change is happening, the only identifiable cause is Human Activity, and it can be prevented or even reversed if we choose.

However, with the number of people like you in this country combined with the short-sighted people in countries like China and India it is not likely to be prevented, and the evidence is accumulating that suggests - in part due to the very chaotic nature of climate you mention - the effects are going to be greater than anticipated and potentially much sooner than anticipated. I do not think you have more than a decade or two to figure out just how clueless you really are.

If the ocean currents shut down and are altered as many models suggest I can assure you the effects will be highly noticible within one season. Is that fast enough for you?

Deny if you must, but Reality has no obligation to pay attention to you no matter how strongly you Believe.

Its not what the sun is doing its the alignment of our planet reflecting the sun.

Our alignment to what, Lusitania, the Sun?

The alignment of a spherical body such as the Earth to another spherical body, such as the Sun, can only change in terms of tilt of the earth's axis. That has not change in your lifetime, or in that of your parents, your grant parents, your great grand parents, of anybody who has lived on this planet in the last 2000 years. Yet the in the last 150 years, our climate has indisputable become warmer, and to a degree which cannot be tied to any equivalent rise in the suns radiance.

I knew this story would bring out the "Flat Earth" crowd.

That's interesting Really. The organization I work for spent the last 3 months on a project with a solar panel manufacturer in Germany. Brand new facility, they are in fact an ASSEMBLER of panels; the actual solar cells are manufactured in California and shipped to Germany for assembly. The only component coming from China are the protective glass panels that "sandwich" the solar cells themselves.

Their major CUSTOMERS at this point are industrial-scale generating facilities in China, India and Australia. About 250 new jobs so far; and when my role in the project ended they were still only running at about 60% capacity. Better work on your "facts".

CO and CO2 are totally different. CO2 makes the plants go, CO is what kills you in your garage when you run the car and close the doors.

The tax on Carbon emissions is designed to make people produce less of it, in an effort to save money. The money isn't collected to fix anything specifically. If people pay the extra fees, and dont slow production, then it will have no effect.

I would like to add, we can effect the weather. We do already. Coal burning in the 1800s had a very telling effect on the weather. When mankind stopped using coal for its central home heating, things got better.

Really - as someone who has actually read the IPCC reports and analyzed the data, I can tell you that their conclusions are sound and based on the data. The implications of their data certainly require political action, but the message is by no means "eminently political." Vahrenholt even states that "CO2 alone will never cause warming of more than 2 degrees celsius by the end of the century." Considering that CO2 isn't the only GHG, and that 2 degrees C by the end of the century is actually quite drastic, you really just supported the climate change argument.

People still burn coal for home heating in many parts of the world.

It isnt like in the 1800s, when most of the modern world was burning coal like crazy. The London fog that many great writers of the period wrote about, was due to coal burning. So thick it was like soup. This had a dramatic effect on the weather at that time. The fact it stopped effecting the weather when the massive amounts of coal was no longer being burned, proves that mankind's activities can and do effect the weather.

There have been other natural events like volcanoes, where sudden escalations of green house gases has caused the weather to change. But because its not constant, the earth corrects itself. We have seen noticeable effects on the weather for years after big volcanic events. But as i said, because we dont have constant big volcanic events, it doesn't effect the weather on a permanent constant basis.

Mankind's activities, year after year, is like a continuous volcano spewing green house gases. If we stop, our effect on the weather will stop.

I'm lovin this. Bring on the warm climate change. No more snow. No more snow.

For all you people who cry about 'global warming' (climate change), next time you drive someplace TAKE THE BUS! Anything less and your nothing more than a hypocrite and have nothing of value to say.

The problem with bring on the warm weather is it negatively effects farming and food production, as well as fresh water supplies. We may have t-shirt weather to enjoy, but we will be mighty hungry and thirsty.

I personally blame the Mayans, Hopis and Nostradamus for this mess. :)

Sorry I pissed you off Dman.....But I couldnt understand what your saying..Are you saying the Earth lays flat in the universe when the sun reaches the center of the Galaxy or were you even talking about the Galaxy.?

It has been widely acknowledged that CO2 effects have been drastically over exaggerated, even by the adamant GW crowd. Their models were wrong.

Regardless of GW facts and statistics, the IPCC is a bunch of political hacks, masquerading as scientists. They have publicly stated the main goal of GW it to transfer wealth from richer nations to poorer ones, political agendas have no business in science.

I am not saying GW isn't real, I'm saying that it has turned into a socialist political agenda driven junket.

Neither carbon taxes nor cap and trade lower emissions, they are merely a politically correct way to obtain more taxes to fuel their socialist agenda. Since most utilities are monopolies, they will just pass their costs on to consumers. You pay the utilities, utilities pay the feds, the feds promise even more something for nothing to buy votes.

Green energy destroys jobs, it does not create them. Think of all the people required to continuously feed a coal plant. Compare that with solar panels that are made once, shipped once, install once, then just sit there for half a century or more.

It is true China is firing up two coal plants a week and will do so for decades. If you follow coal, this is looked upon as a great investment opportunity as China's resources dwindle.

To quote an environmentalist, "If China gets on board, petty much nothing we do will matter. If China doesn't get on board, pretty much nothing we do will matter". China and India will determine our carbon levels, not us. We are already on the right track with CO2 emissions falling, gas consumption falling, carbon output falling, etc. All the increase in CO2 are coming from developing nations.

It took solar panels half a century to become viable. The reason most solar manufacturers are folding is China has made them a commodity. Thanks to China they are finally competitive even without federal subsidies, IF you self install. If the utility owns them it is just another money sink.

I'm not a fan of coal or nuclear and believe we could get to a place where solar, wind, and nat gas can do the trick. But that won't happen overnight, it will take decades.

In the mean time since 80% of carbon comes from individuals, not commerce, anyone who bitches about GW either has a roof full of solar panels and Leaf in the driveway or is a complete hypocrite.

To all those who expect government to "do something", what exactly do you want them to do? Since you are 80% of the problem the only thing more they can do is order you to buy solar panels. Whether it's you or your utility, it is you that will pay.

97% of the scientific community does not agree Valhalla. Widely ackowledged by who?, the oil and coal companies?

Really?-1739510

Oh please! The climate changes every day and has been since the earth was formed.

Wow! You are more stupid than I first thought.

the earth's orbit of the sun is not a perfect circle, it is a varying ellipse. If we are closer to the sun during a particular season, it will be warmer.

This is a common mistake. The Earth's orbit is indeed elliptical, but we are closer to the sun in winter and further away in summer in the Northern Hemisphere. The reason the summer is warmer is because the tilt of the earth advances as well and in summer we are more directly aligned to direct sunlight even though we are actually much further from the sun than we were in the winter season.

It isnt like in the 1800s, when most of the modern world was burning coal like crazy.

Actually, a great many power plants use coal to generate the "clean" electricity you use to light your house.

21% of our nations energy needs come from coal. As a percentage that is probably a drastic reduction from the percentage supplied in 1880, but we use a great deal more energy now then we did 132 years ago. So I doubt much as changed.

To tired to actually post so many stats that negate MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING. So for the easy way tonight all you global warming freaks can do everyone a great big favor, if you would only hold your breath long enough you can help decrease CO2 emmisions and at the same time help with the problem of over population before it becomes a serious problem to our food supplies

Keep worrying about those heat islands in the USA... Ha! Ha!

1. The global temperature anomaly has been released for the month of February, 2012 and the average global temperature has cooled by 0.12 degrees celsius...

2. The global average lower tropospheric temperature anomaly for January, 2012 has cooled by 0.09 degrees celsius, not totally unexpected for a La Nina January...

According to the UAH satellite data on 'Global temperature Anomaly' from NASA...

The global temperature average from the lower tropospheric measurements, avoids the ERRORS associated with; 'heat islands', missing data from certain regions, calibration variations, etc, etc...

If you do not know how the data base is constructed, the length of the data, or the data ERROR rates. You do not know what you are discussing... see http://www.climate-skeptic.com/temperature_measurement/index.html

For a indepth discussion about the different temperature data bases... see http://tamino.wordpress.com/2010/12/16/comparing-temperature-data-sets/

That's because the clueless don't know the difference between "climate" and "weather" . 

To them it's not "climate change", it's "global warming" with an emphasis on warming, and every snowfall proves beyond a doubt that we're not warm yet.

>every snowfall proves beyond a doubt that we're not warm yet

klone, congratulations, you won the award for the most retarded statement, ever. I guess the concept of a monthly or an annual average is junk to you - perhaps you can rewrite the science books too for us now.

AB, you dumb snot, you completely missed the part where I said:

To them

Read it again. And again, until you understand.

You need to take a basic reading comprehension course. Now go off somewhere and grumble to yourself.

klone, "clueless" is always a relative term used to describe the other side. Moreover, I have not once heard a denier use the kind of reason you said. Why did you use it! Thanks though for the clarification which I needed.

I have not once heard a denier use the kind of reason you said.

There were a bunch of them, just yesterday or the day before, when they had that softball-sized hail in Kansas,

They were jumping all over themselves because now they had more proof that global warming was a myth.

If there's another late snowfall anywhere, I guarantee you'll hear them use that reason again.

AB: I've heard them use it, too. Cold weather is proof while hot weather is just a statistical blip. "Summer is hot" they proclaim, while a cold winter in Europe is evidence of the "hoax."

It's why scientists started using "climate change" instead of "global warming" in an effort to help them understand. Didn't work though.

When people want to discuss global warming, it is so often a nuisance subject that I have devised my own three question litmus test to see if the person has enough basic understanding to even comprehend what is going on. I ask them:

1) They say that climate is a chaotic system. What does that mean?

2) A gallon of gasoline weighs about 6 pounds. If you burn that gallon of gasoline in a car, what is the approximate weight of the pollutants (C, CO, CO2 and sulfur compounds only) that are produced?

3) What is the supposed role of methane in global warming?

BTW --- if you want the answers, email me.

A have yet to run into any of the global warming deniers that can understand even the basics of the problem, let along are able to intelligently discuss it and propose any useful solutions.

And it is really shocking how many people have any inkling of how cap-and-trade was to work. In cap-and-trade, the EPA would set a level arbitrarily (at about 10% above the midpoint) of the relationship between pollutants produced and the amount of electricity generated. Powerplants such as dams and nuclear would be included right along with coal- and oil-fired. Carbon credits would be issued to companies in the top 40% in electricity to pollutants ratio. Negative carbon credits (called "demands") would then be issued to the lower 60%. The lower companies would be required to purchase, on the open market, from those who have them, carbon credits to offset their demands. If they could not do so, they would have to upgrade their powerplants or close. The sellers of the carbon credits would have to pass on the profits from selling carbon credits to their customers except for any portion they used to upgrade their own facilities. This is a free-market capitalist solution that actually oroginated with conservative think tanks. Over time the EPA would be able to slowly raise the carbon credit cutoff as companies upgraded, keeping the 60/40 ratio the same. It isn't so much an exchange of cash as an exchange of soot and greenhouse gases.

Cap-and-trade worked incredibly well for SO2 (acid rain) and the EU even borrowed the idea from us in their own current carbon cap-and-trade system because it was so successful. And cap-and-trade doesn't work like you suggested because it requires that the cap is continually lowered. Those who invest in energy-efficient technology will benefit even more in the future than they do under the current cap. It also provides industries with flexibility, and allows the invisible hand of the market to drive emission reductions. Get educated.

When mother Earth has a hot flash, it could kill you, so watch out. You're the only denier here thus far. Does 141 years of history mean nothing to you?

I have no idea what you're saying, but I just realized something: global warming doesn't kill enough people fast enough - that's why conservatives don't like it.

I see Gay Bashing, after seeing his brother on TV.

stonepipe, Do you only go by personal experience? Don't you think that's a bit restrictive? The scientists who make predictions aren't fools. Even conservatively speaking, we are headed for a mega-disaster as a result of just a few degrees of warming.

wtfmike. Say what? No clue as to your response. ab1981-have absolutely no clue about you either. I thought from my post that I worry the scientists are on to something. Please pass the bong so I can get to your level. On second thought, don't. I typed this as slow as I could for you, hope you can grasp what I am saying this go round.

stonepipe, the problem is not that you worry. The problem is that you aren't already convinced (given all the data). No bongs available here.

No offense taken ab-I usually try the dry approach to make a point. If you knew me and my stance on what we are doing to our Mother Earth we would not have had this discussion.

Ah, I learn from the master.

So we are cool then? Hope so. A good honest discussion and an open mind on any topic is best in my opinion. btw, just mowed some lawn, 1st of April, crazy.

I think AB made a good point though, stonepipe. From your post it sounded like you only based the credibility of climate change on personal experience, when that is usually a bad approach. Its obvious you don't though, cheers!

And you are forgetting the cool temps in the 1970s that had the same people predicting a coming Ice Age !

A few years of change indicate NOTHING other than an opportunity for the con artists to pick up a few trillion dollars !

So 97% of the scientific community today equals a few random scientists in the 1970's? That talking point has been refuted so many times, its really getting old.

97% we are getting warmer, 54%/46%, it is predominantly man made.

ptalbott, just how do you know it's a hoax? There indeed are a number of things we absolutely can do globally:

-Stop using coal, oil, and gas. They are so polluting in so many ways. It's beyond hideous. Develop and use renewable and nuclear sources of energy instead.

-Curtail and reverse population growth to a stable and sustainable number.

-Clean up the CO2 mess we have made by increased forestation and other means of carbon storage.

Yes, so let's just pull the trigger now instead of trying. Very sound logic for someone who would be suicidal and void of any solutions.

Really, the Chinese agreed to GHG limits at the Durbin meeting of the UNFCCC. they are agressively pursuing green energy and are already ahead of us. And nobody's going to be drilling off the coast of Florida any time soon. Most Floridians oppose offshore drilling as a threat to the tourism industry.

Really, the Chinese are choking on coal fumes and are seeking alternatives. The oil drilling off Cuba is exploratory. Noone knows how much oil is there. The drilling and production will be done by the same international oil production companies that are drilling off our gulf coast, which people like you clamor for more of. It's OK for us to do it, but bad if the Chinese or Cubans do it. That's what you people really think.

If the Chinese, India, and Brazil don't set emissions limits by 2015, as we all agreed to do, the global community will have a legitimate argument for putting sanctions on them. Its not as hopeless as you may think, and regardless of how difficult it may be, something must be done.

Its a simple cost benefit analysis. The Chinese aren't stupid, if the sanctions are severe enough it will cause them to change their ways. Not to mention they are already working on cutting their emissions now that they seem to have realized how much they have already messed up their own environment.

Again, as reported they are bringing two coal fired plants on line a week and will do so for the next 30 years. Those plants will likely run for 50 or more years. This isn't exactly a secret.

They are developing solar, Li Ion batteries, etc. to sell to us. Like many other things, they are trying to corner the market. They already own 50%+ of the solar electric market, 90% of the solar hot water market, and 97% of the worlds rate earth resources.

They are drilling off our shores, the lament it is only exploratory is pathetic. It is exploratory until they hit a pocket then it's production. DUH! ALL drilling is exploratory.

We have a $16 trillion deficit and adding $1.3 trillion a year, China has a $5 trillion surplus. There will be zero sanctions on China, PERIOD. They own us, and will continue to do so unless we make drastic spending cuts. That's the idiotic price you pay for charging your unsustainable lifestyle and China owns the bank.

AB-1981

ptalbott, just how do you know it's a hoax? There indeed are a number of things we absolutely can do globally:

-Stop using coal, oil, and gas. They are so polluting in so many ways. It's beyond hideous. Develop and use renewable and nuclear sources of energy instead.

-Curtail and reverse population growth to a stable and sustainable number.

-Clean up the CO2 mess we have made by increased forestation and other means of carbon storage

Why dont you "man made climate change" greenies be the first to follow your own advice please, If you would only hold your breath long enough you can

1. reduce the amont of CO2 you produce

2.help to curtail and reverse population growth to a stable and sustainable number

3. reduce the use of oil and gas you would of used

MANY of us are tired of seeing prices raise, taxes rising , money and food wasted on things such as ethanol which is actually harmful to your engine and a waste of corn, As well as the larger egress into our daily lives in a fight to control what we can do by both the government and people like you, so if you are truely in belief of man made "climate change" why not do EVERYTHING you can to help solve the problem.

WRONG! Try to get a grant to prove GW is not a problem. When I first started my scientific career I was as naive as you. Then I witnessed a PhD sell his soul to keep his job. That was a rude awakening.

Energy companies have no axe to grind, BP sells solar panels, Exxon is investing in algae oil. They are not in business to push an agenda, they are in business to make money. If Exxon can get algae oil cheaper than drilling, the drilling willl stop. If BP can make more money selling solar, they will shift their focus to that.

Many scientists who believe GW have come out against all the fear mongering that has accompanied it. That's where I come down, the raw data does not support all the hand wringing, period. While few deny GW, there are far more who question whether we are the predominant reason. The recent revelation that CO2 effects were greatly exaggerated, supports their misgivings.

From a political perspective, every time an error is found it is always to the more radical side. That begs the question whether those errors were accidental, CO2 being the latest example.

What recent revelation that CO2 effects were exaggerated? If you're talking about Spencer's paper last year, his conclusions were quickly shown to be wrong, because he didn't include the effects of El Nino. The "climate sensitivity" to CO2 is still estimated at about 3 deg C for doubling the atmospheric concentration.

It is ironic, but global climate change itself can put an end to global warming by killing off the people who are causing it. This will be by floods, more tornadoes and hurricanes, reduced rainfall and freshwater, very hot summers, and wilder winters.

For sure, Planet Earth will correct our neglect, abuse and misuse. It will go on, with or without us, I've enjoyed the ride myself, and hope generations will for years to come. Though out History is seems humans only respond to extremes, never satisfied with simplicity until it's no longer an option. Past and present generations have tried to warn of things to come, but it's only after the fact that people realize what they've done, or not done. All generations have left guidstones, but no one pays attention to them. The Georgia Guidestones/or like, hopefully will be a guide one day for others, human or what ever the next species will be. The changes I've seen in my lifetime are taking us back to square one. We live in a society that's not based on logic of natural balance. It'll work out in the end, don't lose sleep. Not to go political, but Capitalist greed isn't working out that well for the Planet, just a heads up. ;-)

It's this kind of absurd fear mongering the creates deniers. GW will even be a net plus for the US, we will not turn into another venus.

No kidding.

Forecast is for rain and snow Monday and Tuesday. Think it will?

Really, the Jet Stream is affected by climate change and those changes will manifest as changes in the weather. Climate change is proven beyond a reasonable doubt to anyone who makes their judgments based on evidence. It is getting warmer and getting warmer faster and greenhouse gasses are contributing to the increase in the rate of warming. And we still do have the power to affect some of the drivers of climate change. Which is why the Chinese made a committment to reduce GHGs at Durbin. The real world is moving forward on this issue while the knickle draggers pimp for big oil.

You seem to think if you keep hollering your point of view someone will listen and take note.

Not going to happen unless you can prove you are a climatologist and not just some crank with an internet connection.

Climatologist is a code word for govt lackey .

Somedude and Really - you guys crack me up. There are so few people who share your outdated views, I love coming to these boards on topics like this to get a good laugh. Simply sheep using fox news talking points, completely devoid of any logic or reasoning. Because you're conspiracy theory that climatologists are sponsored by the government or that they don't actually produce data using the scientific method must be true. LOL

I think it is just a different set of moral and philosophical beliefs. I know that we can mitigate climate change without harming our economy too much and there needs to be a balanced approach, but regardless, I am really not worried about my own well-being when it comes to climate change. I am more worried about future generations who will have to live on this earth after we screwed up the climate. I don't think we should completely cut off all fossil fuel use, but I also think that something needs to be done.

80% of carbon comes from individuals, 40% housing, 40% transportation. If anything is to be done, it is YOU that will have to do it. Again, what do you expect government to do? Either you will pay the utility to buy solar panels or you will buy them, either way you pay.

That being the case, if your roof isn't filled with solar panels and you don't have a Leaf in the driveway you are a hypocrite. Can't afford it? Tough, government can't either, unless they collect it from you and hit you with a 25% bureaucratic surcharge to boot.

If you are really worried about future generations, worry about the absurd spending spree going on now. Do a little research, we will be Greece in less than a decade at the rate we are going and there will be no one to bail us out. When the collapse occurs there will be ZERO dollars for green anything.

Want the country to go green, better fix the spending crisis first or you won't be able to afford anything, let alone green.

Stop making sense Valhalla Phil, the liberals can't take it ..

Thank god we will be Greece. Maybe then we can kick the IMF out and restore the integrity of our currency through default, which is the only option Greece has. We certainly have the resources to back a strong currency. Time to think outside of the box. BTW, new cars and solar panels are not the only ways to reduce emissions, however, overall reduction of mass consumption is likely key... What about biodegradable packaging materials? What about non-invasive hydroelectric and the restoration of natural watersheds? What about hemp biodiesel? Just to name a few... Granted, electric cars are nice and all, but where does the electricity come from. Without entirely off-grid electric production, you can be guaranteed that there is some measure of destruction involved...

I grew up near Chicago, sounds like our weather! :<)

Pot meet kettle

Yeah the cult followers keep saying that people are denying science , but what we are actually denying is that taxing the @!$%# out of people is going to make a difference .

Tumbleweed,

We weren't around to change the climate millions of years ago--those changes were natural. The climate change of today is entirely due to man's influence on the chemical content of the atmosphere. In only a century and a half we've upped the CO2 content from 280ppm to 393ppm, and we're not slowing down the emissions that are forcing such changes. What is happening now with the climate is merely the beginning of what is yet to come. We may not have warm winters every year but they will occur more frequently than they ever have in man's history.

sean: Nope.

Your "creator", was created by weak men. Men that were/are afraid to die. Men that really believe they are too important to die. Therefore there just must be a heaven. Some even believe 72 virgins are awaiting.

"The climate change of today is entirely due to man's influence on the chemical content of the atmosphere."

Sorry, that's patently false. There are many things contributing to increasing temperatures, it is not at all settled that man is even the predominant issue, let alone the singular. Again, CO2 has been acknowledged as being greatly exaggerated, causing all the severe model results to be false.

It would be a good idea to look up the NASA study: Earth's energy budget 'out of balance' from last year. Conclusion: "A new NASA study underscores the fact that greenhouse gases generated by human activity—not changes in solar activity—are the primary force driving global warming."

Just curious if anyone is ever going to post links to a study NOT funded by a political organization (NASA, NOAA, UN)? Just curious... Oh yeah... This guy published one.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/23/warm_period_little_ice_age_global/

Let the shout-down begin. LOL.

The author of the study "Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age extended to the Antarctic Peninsula" has made it clear that his work has been misrepresented by a number of media outlets, and that "our study does not question the well-established anthropogenic warming trend.” Most temperature reconstructions show that MWP average temperatures were exceeded by about the 1980s.

The BS part is where they say taxing the crap out of everyone is going to make any difference to the constantly fluctuating climate .

No I'm saying you climate change dinguses aren't going to change a damn thing .I can see regulating actual pollution but carbon dioxide is the BS part , all plant life needs Carbon Dioxide .There's a much bigger picture going on , and it's got nothing to do with climate change and more to do with controlling the masses aka one world govt .The govt paid "scientists are given a conclusion by the govts and aree told to fill in the blanks in between .

Yeah, somedude,

Carbon Dioxide is what has helped make this planet warm enough to be habitable, but our civilization developed within conditions were CO2 was at 280 ppm. We've upped those CO2 levels to 393ppm (and counting) and the Earth is still in the beginning stages of adjusting to the higher CO2 levels. If our planet is still adjusting to what CO2 is now, then continuing to raise CO2 levels will force it to keep adjusting to reach whatever temperature equilibrium the higher CO2 level will inevitably dictate. That equilibrium will leave the Earth in a much warmer state than our society has ever faced and one in which the planet looks far different than the one we've enjoyed to this point.

The one world government you speak of is filled with people within the Oil industry who don't want to stop the drilling and consumption of fossil fuels. Stopping that is bad for business (for them) and good for the rest of humanity. They're very good at disseminating lies to make otherwise intelligent people believe that climate scientists are merely sounding the alarm on climate change for profit. If your kid has brain cancer do you take him to a podiatrist? I hope not. So why would you think a climate scientist--whose entire life's work is devoted to measuring the Earth--would lie about what they work on for a living? If they are speaking up, and they are, they are doing so because their conscience dictates them to--not for profit. It's the Fossil Fuel Industry backed scientists who are getting paid for their public stances and not real climate scientists. History, if there is anyone left to record it, will vindicate climate scientists of today. Looking at the facts as recorded by NASA, the NOAA, and other scientific groups with actual credibility, the truth of their work is already clear to me. Those who would cover their work up or seek to undermine it are a dangerous lot indeed.

ITT: People who don't understand basic science, much less chemistry, denying the fact that increased concentration of greenhouse gasses can increase the average temperature. Keep going guys, I'm copying some of these responses to share with my Climate Change and the Law class for our discussion over why many people with no education in science disregard a virtual scientific consensus.

But its not like this is a new occurrence. Once people clung to the idea that the earth was flat, or that the sun revolves around the earth, or that evolution is the mechanism that produces diversity of life.

There is a lot of scientists out there that disagree with MAN MADE climate change, but since it makes you feel better go ahead and ignore them as you accuse those who dont belive its ALL man made of doing, And if you really want to share some comments with them and REALLY want to help share my other comments on here with your class PLEASE.

Research by Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) shows no slowdown in the warming trend of the past 15 years when other variables such as El Nino are accounted for.

al gore wouldn't know the truth if it crapped on his face .

Gore is a prove liar. There are 61 proven lies in his documentary. Nobody takes him seriously, not even himself. He says the seas could rise 30 feet then buys a house on the beach, go figure.

Obamacare is not health care reform, it codifies the monopolies that are already there.

I am a scientist with half a dozen patents, and it's not the raw science that is wrong, it is the politically motivated fear mongering conclusions that are. Big difference. It is the idiots who say "97% la, la, la", or "it is overwhelmingly agreed", etc. that don't have a clue about science. Science is not a democracy, it is not majority rule, it is definitely NOT consensus.

Quite the opposite, it is the skeptics that are the soul of science. It was skeptics that challenged the earth was flat, it was the skeptics, that challenged the sun revolved around the earth. The ones who demanded loyalty to dogma was the church. Without challenging the dogma, there is no science.

As a conservative we DO want the government to do something... STAY OUT of free markets!!! It is because Obama is trying to control the free market that we are in this mess. Open up government lands, stop dragging your feet on permits, build the damn pipeline, and let the free market work it's magic.

Isn't it interesting that when weather contradicts climate change it's "weather", when weather coincides with climate change it's "climate". You can't have it both ways guys.

Well, true that you shouldn't try to have it both ways. That's why the scientists use statistical methods, and in many cases those methods are showing that the changes are real. (Not just temperatures, but precipitation, drought, etc.)

Valhalla, they are one in the same. global warming is causing extreme weather. People of lesser intelligence really try my patience.

Yeah mike that seems to be your part line lately that you libs are soooooo smart . As a stick maybe .

It is true, you right wingnuts are f'ing stupid. Look at your comment. You cannot even form a sentence.

Party, so I spelled one word wrong. You're still dumber than dog@!$%# .