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Noah Berger / AP
With marijuana proponents chanting behind them, federal agents raid Oaksterdam University in Oakland, Calif., on Monday.
Federal authorities raided Oaksterdam University, a “cannabis college” in northern California, on Monday morning.
Agents with the Internal Revenue Service, Drug Enforcement Agency and U.S. Marshals were spotted outside the medical marijuana facility, with some entering the site with power saws and a sledgehammer and other carrying out bags of material to a van, nbcbayarea.com and the San Francisco Chronicle reported.
Two other buildings in the city’s cannabis district -- known as Oaksterdam -- were also raided.
Calls and emails seeking comment from the IRS, DEA and Oaksterdam were not immediately returned. But IRS spokeswoman Arlette Lee told local media that the probe was under seal in a Northern District Court and the agents were serving a federal search warrant.
Federal prosecutors have recently been stepping up pressure on medical cannabis dispensaries, forcing hundreds to close, the Chronicle reported. They maintain that federal law trumps California's 1996 voter-approved law legalizing medical cannabis.
The raid comes about two weeks after the Oakland City Council approved doubling the number of medical marijuana dispensaries, approving four new potential operators, the Oakland Tribune reported.
Many view Oaksterdam as the heart of California's pot legalization movement. In business since 2007, Oaksterdam was founded by Richard Lee -- the main backer of the 2010 state ballot measure that would have legalized marijuana for recreational use if it had passed, nbcbayarea.com reported.
Oaksterdam University teaches classes on how to cultivate marijuana plants for personal use.
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Nice waste of my tax dollars, you jack-booted Nazi thugs.
Why not do the same with Goldman Sachs, politicians and lobbyists? In other words, aren't there some real criminals you can screw with?
No $#!t, the banks robbed our country blind and mega corporations don't pay taxes. Why doesn't the I.R.S. go after them? American citizens are left footinfg the bill for all of this crap. Man, the way things are for us is blatant tyranny, our votes mean nothing.
I'm confused. Obama said he would stop the raids. Yet he is deathly silent on it now that he is Prez. East coast acts like the west is a separate country. Leave Cali alone. Hell, leave Arizona alone and Texas and Alabama and Georgia. Quit attacking the states. Holder bust pot clubs and sues states who try to solve problems. What's going on.
Meanwhile, across town ... http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/02/10985738-several-hurt-after-gunman-opens-fire-at-small-university-in-california
Darrel- Your opinion means nothing given your thoughtless use of terms to describe the agents on the ground conducting the raid. You think they're Nazis... I guess that means we're better off without their help here in Oakland while people are being shot at the Christian School.
Go on about your business, we don't need people like you on "our side".
Darrel B. - you are soooooooo right. Idiotic DEA is biggest loser in entire world law enforcement. Send those funds to local law enforcement instead. Let the DEA become a small dept inside FBI at 2% their current budget.
IRS would do 10X better to go after every investment banker in existence. The i-banker culture is lie/cheat/steal. I would bet they have a high pay out rate post-audit. would be 1000X higher if IRS would cut off their off shore transactions.
Oh - Michael from Sonoma - Going after cancer patient pain relief suppliers and victimless crime of pot smoking. They are thugs. More to your point - take those funds to DEA and give to local PD. You think DEA has any interest in stopping gunmen on the street? they are after drugs, thats it.
Obama lied. The Feds waste more money on their stupid "control issues." More things to worry about then people who medicate with pot. And if you think the GOP will sit back IF put in office then you are sady mistaken. It will be worse. Just the Feds flexing their muscles where they can. But Obama has certainly hushed up concerning this, hasn't he? Whispering "I'll take care of this after the election...." Liar.
Maybe somebody needs to file a lawsuit against the federal government to see if this would fall under "states rights". Let the US Supreme Court weigh in on it.
The medical benefits of marijuana obviously don't include improving mental acuity.
Such wonderful BS from our friendly parasitic politicians of the Republicrat Party of Amerikkka.
@The Devil...
The Department of Justice is led by Eric Holder. A democrat appointed by President Obama. The same way he is turning his head and looking the other way on illegal immigration is the same thing he could do regarding the use of medical marijuana.
Yeah, this one makes me angry. So pointless and wasteful.
You know why they don't raid the banks and the goldman sachs that brought the entire nation to its knees? Because what they do is fully sanctioned by the congress and the government and it's written into law that they are allowed to fleece you the citizen of the USA (aka the muppets) with no repercussions. So you have all these dummies whose job is to execute law so they can look busy as "law-enforcement" but of course we all know it has no bearing to the welfare of the society whatsoever.
Obama is to the right of Bush on Medical Marijuana.
Why are we funding this BS, 50% of the population is OK with medical marijuana.
Does remind me of a joke, guy goes to the doctor to get a script for MM, the doctors says what ails you, he said the stress of getting busted with weed is killing me.
We are funding the fight on marijuana because potheads don't have mega-lawyers or automatic weapons.
I wonder if there was actually any cannabis at the school? If not whats the BIG deal. G.D. DEA. How much coke heroin and meth was sold while these CLOWNS were making their big bust? How sad but with politicians bought and paid for like the $20 whores they are I would expect nothing but this horsehockey.
As a progressive left leaning citizen I will not vote for Obama again. I urge others to do the same - hard to believe that Romney could be worse. Holder wages war on US citizens - Obama does nothing. Under his watch wars have escalated, torturers from previous administration have been given amnesty, deportations have doubled, Geitners buddies on Wall Street got billions of our tax dollars. Obama is a wolf in sheeps clothing. throw him out, the next guy will be no worse, even if it is Santorum. Obama has done nothing for us but turned on us.
No time for the Feds to catch REAL criminals like the banksters who collapsed the entire economy.
Nope, only time to go after harmless marijuana users.
Only time to keep violating the constitution which protects personal freedom and liberty.
Only time to keep building more and more privatized for-profit prisons to house all these NON-criminals.
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Michael...
The DEA doesn't give a rats' a$$ about "people are being shot at the Christian School."
They wont show up to do a thing about it. No wonder Oakland has those violent problems, they don't know that the "Big Guns" will never step in to their local business, unless they're tokin' a J.
The People that work at the DEA could care less about the morality of what they do , they are your typical "A" type of personality that thrives on being in control , they are more concerned with making sure everyone knows they are the man, most have a bucket list and playing with their big toys ranks right up there with killing a bad guy .
Most will get out with a six figure pension after 20 yrs and then the will move on to companies like Xe where the can kill with immunity
I agree the DEA are out of step with the majority pure and simple and Holder who controls these douche bags can choke.
Ohh Obama thanks for keeping your promises "NOT" nothing but a lying bastard.
Out of control bureaucracy self-interest at its finest.
Comment # 1 deleted for death wishing. Don't, chris-2252558. You are suspended for a day for violating rule # 5 of the Code of Honor.
Legalizing and taxing marijuana could bring $billions into state/federal coffers instead of the pockets of the Mexican Drug Cartels. What a waste of taxpayer money!
Legalizing might cost the state money. Your right about the cartel side but if it was legal people would just grow it for free. Now the Lawyers get money. and politicians. Taxes. licence fees. Power companies(Indoor growers). A lot of people getting paid. Legalise and it all turns free.
@leroy - Just like wine is free???? Just like tobacco is free? What planet are you on??
The billions in taxation is a very common myth. Marijuana can be easily grown so people will grow their own or get it from those who do and avoid payment of taxes. Enforcement of the taxation will eat up most of the funds obtained.
He's on the planet California. Earlier he stated the East coast treats the West coast like a separate country. Well, sometimes it sure seems like it when it comes to CA.
Let's see...official language has got to be Spanish by now. It's the only place where you can't buy a cigar but (with deference to this article) you can buy a spliff. They're billions of dollars in debt, but insist on dictating conditions on every other state such as emission regulations for a lawn mower.
Yep, CA is a country unto itself.
That being said, I think the Feds need to re-read the 10th Amendment to that little document they step on regularly call the Constitution and butt out of a State approved ballot measure.
Have you looked at the medical costs of tobacco every year?
You don't think there will be an enormous explosion of medical costs involving pot?????/
I grew one plant last year. I still have 2 gallons left. I filled up 2 five gallon buckets. I give away weed. I'll run out about the 4th of July. FREE. The sun does the work. Ussually I use water out of my fish tank plants love fish $hit. Free.
No, Wives fan. I do not. The pharmaceutical companies are losing the money on addicting drugs such as Oxycondin, Vicodin, Demerol, Percocet, etc., and therefore lobby against legalization of MMJ. Plain and simple.
wives fan - what are you talking about? medical costs? weed has little to no medical effects on a persons body, so I don't know what direction you are looking at.
as far as taxes and people working around them by growing their own, who cares?
tax payers will still save the money it costs arresting, prosecuting, and raiding on petty drug users who smoke weed. Get over it stiffys, theres nothing wrong with it at all, at least no more wrong then cigarettes and booze.
chris-335678 - so put a sur tax on the supplies it takes to grow weed. done.
wives fan,
Where are you getting your information from? Pot is far less deadly than either tobacco or alcohol, no matter what Faux News reports.
Exactly, so I hope no one's hopeful that it will be legalized anytime soon, or ever. If the politicians thought they could make money on this, it would've never been outlawed in the first place.
wives fan
You don't think there will be an enormous explosion of medical costs involving pot?????
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absolutely not. There is very little to no ill effects from marijuana use.... MUCH MUCH MUCH less then alcohol or tobacco or prescription drugs cause..
think of how much money would be saved by not wasting resources trying to persecute marijuana users and growers.
And many would buy pot at pot cafe's or buy license to grow, so it would generate revenue
but more importantly it frees up resources to tackle more damaging problems like heroin cocaine meth and prescription drug abuse which are all FAR more dangerous
At the end of the day nothing is going to change or get better unless Ron Paul is considered for president.
But...but.... Obama SAID he would stop the raids!
Obama always does what he says, right?
Lols for days. More LIES from Obama. Shocking!
Ron Paul 2012
If you truly had common sense you would not try to elevate the ethics of one politician above another.
Bet the evidence comes up missing.!!
It cracks me up when people insist that marijuana has no medical effects. All other types of smoke and chemicals have ill effects when introduced into your lungs, but somehow, just somehow, this one doesn't. So very convenient.
The screw must have had to stock up for summer.
Toenine -
If you had any knowledge of the subject matter you would know that Ron Paul has ethics and consistency.
And Obama does not.
And Ethanol is legal... and trump States' rights when it comes to medical use??? In a recent survey, most Americans favor legalization. So who exactly is it that speaks for the minority and trumps the majority. Really doesn't sound too American to me... oh well, who's really in control of this country anyway ...I guess the wealthy ones who snort cocaine? So much for freedom... marijuana isn't = to cocaine or alcohol for that matter.
U.S. out of Oakland! Occupy marijuana! We need help with gun control and violent crime, not DEA agents raiding peacefully functioning business.
Most drug laws are used to imprison minorities.
Actually it's NOT a myth, I grow my own, but I still need to "supplement" my medication. IF it were taxed, I'd be paying it. Your ignorance in what it takes to grow "proper" quality and quantity shows. Sure I could drop a few seeds into a garden and let nature take its course but quality and quantity suffer.
Yo Joe two years ago we dummies in Michigan Voted and passed a state law legalizing MMJane. Our law makers wrote it up to where it is to confusing for the lawmen (judges,cops,and lawyers) to figure out so here we sit. I take morphine or used to from a state pain clinic until I became immune to it, for the last few years I have took Methadone. Most home grown is bogus unless your a expert at growing it or dust it.
UNCONSTITUTIONAL !!!!!!
Do the American people have any rights these days ? The answer is no.
I try to refrain from speaking the absolute truth when posting, but I can't hold it in any longer. The American Federal Government, and it's officials, are the largest terrorist organization in the world !!!!!
I was checking out a seed bank and saw seeds for Super Skunk and thought of you.
There are a lot of people lined up to shake down the weed smokers. Lawyers are first to get paid. and they get paid win or loose. I don't see lawyers trying to change that system. P.S. Thanks Barry for another broken promise. Can't you control Eric Holder?
Nice !
Whattup Leroy !
I ordered some seeds from Europe. BERRY BOMB. It's a super purple bud but it isn't the leaves that turn purple, it's all the hairs. Most beuatiful thing. I've got the picture on my screen saver. Can't wait for those seeds to get here. Reno.
Awesome, jah bless.
What seed bank did you get them from ?
I think it was The World of Seeds.
Leroy2112
Isn't it about time for you to go back to REHAB !!!!!
Between that and your Malcolm X photo , you really need to get an education !!
Rehab is for quitters.
Bob 1/28 , Is that a Black Lion of Catigny 1st 28th Inf? 69-70
Drugs are for quitters !!!!!!!!!!!
Remember good old Dr. Timothy Leery ???? Turn on tune drop out fame ?????? That boy loved his acid . It also fried his brain. Sorry to say you are headed down that same road. A mind is a precious thing to loose. You better go look for yours before it's to late.
Yank-957120
You bet your life it is !!!! Brovo company , lima platoon 7/68-7/69.
Question : Is that you ED ??????
bob
I was Alpha, Lima Platoon in 69-70 Also E Company Recon. I'm heading to a Alpha Reunion in Savannah, Ga on April 12.
Black Lions
Jack
Bob. Thanks for your service. I don't do strong drugs just beer, weed an wine.
leroy
If the beer is free count me in !!
bob
I'll take a hot Falstaff with rusted edges and a chunk of hard ice. Learnt that at Firebase Gela. Good luck to you Bob.
YANK
Jack I did not know any one in Alpha. Go and do Savannah !!! You will love it. The wife and I did it last year , we had a ball . The sea food is best down by the river. You must tour old town ( the old city ) and do the ghost tour. Just don't drink the Artillerymen 's Punch . It comes in a 22oz glass. They will carry you out ( kinda like Nam-- Stand down ) . I sent you a friends invite via news vine. Tell the boys there is still one old black Lion on the prowl.
bob
obama going to lose California now. you now the cops went and poison them self after that maybe did some drunk driving? vote to end Prohibition do the smart thing
God bless our police state. Freedom and liberty gone and it only took 236 years. Fascism is our new life enjoy. Cut our entitlements, we don't need SS,medicare or medicade. We have the largest prison system in the world and our government will make sure that is funded by the same people it puts in there.
BANKERS STEAL billions and don't even get arrested. When are the people going to demand a WAR on BANKS and Money creation by a PRIVATE Cartel? I bet it could be won a lot sooner than this 30+ year War on Drugs. The full force of the USA declaring war on the international bank of settlements and the federal reserve and the ECB and all the other LOAN SHARKING institutions the wealthy hold so dear to their New World Order. Make the Rothschilds,Rockefellers, and all the other.01% like the rest of the 99.99%, let them work for it or rot in prison for crimes against humanity. I like the latter ,would not mind paying for their imprisonment.
The War on Drugs, The War on Terror, Support Our Troops.
These things are nothing more than catch phrases, and slogans. They are propaganda that mean nothing.
Is this really all that they have to do or what? The medical Marijuana industry at the very least provides thousands of people legitamate jobs, in an industry that is only growing, while the rest of the economy suffers. How are we supposed to grow as a country if we won't support the few things succeeding? The governmet could use the industry to their full advantage if they put their time into that rather than the crazy power trip they are having making sure we know who is in charge. Such a waste
I am glad to see that our taxpayers are happy to see that your government is spending the money wisely, I wonder how many roads need improving? how many schools need improvements? how many lives being destroyed over alcohol, nicotine, and prescription meds? But they want to waste time and money over something that shouldn't even be an issue. GO USA, your doing good!!!
Attacking this teaching school and than believing that it will make any impact on the cultivation and sell of Marijuana as a medicine in America is laughable. This article seems to believe, with a straight face, that one place is teaching all the growers how to grow. Get Real MSNBC. The federal government is fighting a losing battle here. One that the government will always lose.
GOVERNMENT AGENDA: The pharmaceutical companies are losing the money on addicting drugs such as Oxycondin, Vicodin, Demerol, Percocet, etc., and therefore lobby against legalization of MMJ.
I am going home to plant a seed in honor of Oaksterdam. One more plant to chase down.
that how out of touch are gov is lets succeed from the union hell were the 8 largest economy and sell weed to every body Else we could be number one? that right the grass is greener hear!
its kind of sad when you have the worlds largest drug cartel leaders thanking the US for its war on drugs. They are just laughing at you.
I would love to know how much money, taxpayer money, has been spent on just chasing down pot users, growers, etc etc. I see no problem making pot legal, The other drugs, not so much. Hell they tried to get booze banned, and did for awhile, and we all know how that turned out.
By making pot legal, controlled like the tobacco industry is, think of the tax revenue the states would have. And it wouldn't effect the non pot users, just the ones who buy the pot. Sounds like a good idea to me.
Good. Cannabis is not medicine. It is not a cure for anything.
Thanks doctor....where did you get your medical degree? Cracker Jacks?
Cameron, how many legal pharmaceutical drugs are currently being prescribed by doctors ?
How many of those drugs cure the diseases and afflictions they are treating ?
You really should think before you make nonsensical arguments.
oh really "dr." ford, care to enlighten us with your sources on these medical conclusions? or are you just a troll that be trollin...
No, but like many drugs being prescribed, it is the symptoms cannibis helps. duh, it isn't a cure. and just like herbal tea or warm milk to help you sleep, or advil to take your pain away, cannibis should be available for all to reap the benefits of without risk of pursecution.
Weed is unhealthy but can help with some things. But it is our buisness not Eric Holders. Obama said he would stop the raids. Don't listen to what he says, watch what he does.
Is that, “good cannabis” you say?
You are so stupid it hurts. Quick! Take a pill.
makes my pain go away better than the 240 vic 5/500's they give me each month...
Hey, since all the pro-cannibus people want to legislate it like alcohol for personal consumption other than medical, then Marijuana is not medicine.
And the guy is right. Marijuana hasn't cured jack @!$%#.
It's a cure for listening to people like you .
What harm does it cause?
I would love for you to say that to a very dear friend who currently has a golf ball size tumor in her brain.
The only thing that is helping her cope is pot while she is doing chemo.
You don't know what you are talking about get a little educated.
Obama is a lying %unt.
America is eating its self. Goon squads in spiffy militaristic uniforms and masks attacking the public under the umbrella of Public Safety. Time to push back.
Sick of the self-righteous Feds using fear tactics to squash public decent?
Watch out for napolitano, she believes that the US is winning the "war on drugs" and will continue these aggressive tactics. Time to storm the Bastille folks. It isn't the 99% vs the 1%. Frankly it is about 65% vs 35% and the 35% have a lot more money and guns. Storm the Bastille.
what a joke, just legalize this crap. stop wasting my money on stupid pointless raids.
I can see the DEA going in...but the IRS?
Hey,,,, if there's money to be made, our gov will be first in line.
The IRS is usually the one leading the charge in cases concerning prohibition, because it's frequently very difficult to make criminal charges stick so they bust them for tax evasion instead. It's how they got Al Capone and other gangsters during alcohol prohibition in the 1920's. The armed muscle is just that, armed muscle, to make sure the paper pushers get the incriminating documents they need.
There's money to be taxed but if marijuana works, it takes a lot of money away from other fields, like pharmaceuticals and doctors. and you can't grow those on your own. overall it takes GNP away to allow use of marijuana. it also has negative effects on health ( respiratory, motivation) which are valid concerns. also in election time it looks like enforcement is going on and keeps the right ( pharma and most wanna be wealthy doctors) happy. that's why Obama is mute on the issue. A president for all Americans. That could bite him back comes election time.
C.A.M.P. ever hear of it? They fly arount in helocoptors looking for weed. America's three largest breweries donated $5 million each to keep them flying. That's $15,000,000 to try to keep us addicted to beer and to secure their grip on America. Then they also got to use it for a TAX WRITE OFF.
So F YOU Miller Brewing Co., Coors and Bud. Bud shouldn't even be aloud to use that name since they hate real BUD for it's competition.
Is this for real? I have never heard this argument about the booze kings. Just the pharmaceutical companies. But it makes sense.
Way lame, but it does make sense. One more reason im stickin to my micro brews :) Gotta love local!
Again big business rules
Poor Leroy. Are you still addicted to beer? And pot?
Must eat up a lot of your profits.
The government should not be telling us what we do to our own bodies or with another consenting adult...all of these vice laws have their roots in some christian fantasyland ...you should not care if someone else is drinking, doing drugs or paying for sex acts as long as it does not harm an innocent person..
Don't just blame Christians. The whole world has tough drug laws. Try smoking a joint in Japan or China.
No Rick, you can't just let people run around doing heroin because they choose to. That puts a risk to others as well as themselves. I believe weed should be legalized, but I am not to the extreme of legalizing all drugs, thats just plain silly.
Corrrect Leroy, I knew a guy who got caught with a join in Tokyo, he got to finish a modeling contract in jail and then got deported back to the States.
ALL of those foreign drug laws were exported by the US through the international narcotics treaty. We have bribed countries for years to implement harsh drug laws.
Why buy the pot when you can get it for free. What do the officers do with all that pot they confiscate anyway?
What do YOU think they do with it?
Ever wonder why cops love donuts and twinkies?
It's used as evidance during criminal trial.
After the criminal trial the drug is destroyed.
What? You think Cops actually watch early episodes of The Shield? Seriously?
We are quickly becoming a fascist country, the will of the people is now regularly struck down by social controlling, pig-headed a$$holes on a power trip. Just like here in AZ, we the people VOTED for medical marijuana. Since the passage of this bill Jan Brewer has done nothing but try to come up with as many lame ass excuses as she can to go against the will of the voters. She does not care one bit what the people of this state want....why even vote.
Keep it up, Obama! You and the federal govt. are really doing a bang up job! Maybe tomorrow you can watch me make my coffee and tell me when to quit adding sugar.
Of course they raided it.....these Americans are cutting into the profits of Mexico's drug cartels. We all know that Obama would NEVER disrupt the Mexican's cash flow.
Prohibition does not work. Period.
Even the Police State we have become, thank you Republicans and Right Wing Supreme Court, can't make it work.
Although, we could empower law enforcement to simply shoot suspected lawbreakers. As any Conservative will tell you, death is the appropriate punishment for any number of crimes.
I propose we start with snipers at every intersection with a semaphore, taking out red light runners. In Utah alone, we could have stacks of bodies in just a couple days.
No one gets FAT from smoking weed.
They just get the munchies and pig out.
your weight stays the same, you cannot gain or lose weight while on sweet ol' mary jane
That's not true. Weed doesn't stop you from gaining wait. If it did it would be W A Y more popular.
look it up bad..bad...leroy brown!
You guys are rediculous. If you eat you eat calaries and dont burn them u gain. Weed has nothing to do with it unless it makes you eat more and do less. iv known alot of people that gained weight while smoking, some lost, and some fluctuate. Your body is still going to do what it is going to do.
thanks girl on couch for your superb grammar lessons, and for your incite on the subject, sorry but when your fat cells are lined with THC cells, they burn fat more frequently, and more often. Therefore increasing your metabolism, and keeping that weight off.....granted if all you do is sit on a couch and eat and eat and eat, and rarely move, yeah your gonna gain weight. Idk about the rest of you but when i smoke in the day i want to go out and do stuff, but when i smoke at night i'm just gonna relax and enjoy the rest of my night.
I smoke it nonstop.
same, been smoking for like 5 or 6 years, and haven't gained a pound...yah i go up and down a few lbs every now and then, but for the most part have been at the same exact weight
No one gets fat from weed? That is too funny. Now hush and pass the Twinkies and Cheetos and scoot over on the couch. What? "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" and "Dazed and Confused" movies coming on? Awesome. Grab me a Diet Coke while you are in the kitchen, too. Thank you.
ya, in small amounts yes, DK18, THC does burn off fat cells... lol but the average person would have to smoke alot of weed to just lose weight based off marijuana. its not like a diet plan. Your weight will still be completely dependant on what your doing with it and putting in it.
Suds- ha! word, the first time i got high in my own kitchen i ate an entire cake... :)
Dear US Federal Government,
Thanks for oppressing the liberties of your own people and squashing a legitimate, burgeoning industry that keeps everyone from farmers to business owners to accountants to attorneys employed, all to keep our pockets lined. It is very much appreciated, for when we slay citizens and government officials in our home countries that oppose our operations, it is helpful to have the funding you secure to buy guns, bullets, and more pliable government officials.
Your truly,
The Mexican Drug Cartels
Dear Mexican Drug Cartels,
Just shut up and keep doing as we tell you, or Mexico can be the new Iraq. Understood?
--- The U.S. Federal Government.
I want to go to school there. Please
Getting a little aggrivated. Time to fire up some BLUEBERRY KUSH.
'puff puff, GIVE!'
no no, its puff puff pass!
I guess you haven't seen Friday with Ice Cube and Chris Tucker? here's the clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNUjClJked8