Anyone who has 10million dollars worth of stuff in small safe that can be carried/dragged out is stupid.

Should secure the safe to floor and walls..not keep it loose in a closet..a simple small dolly can roll a three foot high safe easy. But you left a rug there to use.. smart owners..ask one of your friends who stole it..not many people know a safe is in your upstairs bedroom closet with two dogs on property!

If this is in fact true, then I must conclude the owners are a tad on the stupid side.

First of all, who keeps a safe like that in their home that is not secured to the floor, wall, or some other structure in the home. Second, who keeps $10 million dollars in cash and jewelry in their home and does not bother to have it insured. I had an individual piece of jewelry that was worth a little more than 0.1% of that amount and had it insured against theft or loss. These people do not sound like they are very bright.

It is pretty easy to find the house on Google maps, since there is only one house on the block with anything close to a wall around it. There is one other house with a high hedge and fence at the other end of the block, but there is an ungated opening you could walk right through, so you would not need to go over it. The "wall" is really a wrought iron fence with a hedge growing completely around it that looks to be around 6-7 feet high with the driveway gate maybe 5-6 feet if that, not some high wall. It looks like a nice house, but not one I would expect to find $10 million in cash and jewelry in.

as my late friend Marsha used to say:

"I dont lock my doors, because I figure anyone who's coming in here to steal my things needs them way more than I do"

though, marsha might not have had that same feeling if she had a safe full of $10 million worth of money and jewelry.

it's all perspective though...a woman with much less to lose, didnt worry about losing it...

and here's this woman with so much to lose, and doesnt do the simple and obvious things to secure it - insure it and secure the safe to the wall/floors.

life is interesting to say the least

i'm pretty sure they didn't have more than 1 million in that safe. thats how the rich people talk and report " oh yeah , i had 10 million " and probably it was empty.

I like how a house a mile away was considered a "neighbor." haha

Thank you Scubasteve. That sentence gave me pause as well. I thought I was reading it wrong.

Whoever stole this from these people is definitely someone that they know and know well!! As posted above, who would just decide to break in and go upstairs to a closet and look for a safe!! The bottom line is that 95% of the time when someones house is broken into the thieving POS is one of the homeowners "friends"!! I have had this happen once in my life and it not only hurts to loose items that can never be replaced (the guns and silver/gold pieces my grandfather gave to me while he was still alive, you can't put a price tag on something like that) but to loose a friend at the same time, having someone who you trusted and respected sh#t backwards on you like that really hits you deep!!!

If I were keeping 10 million in my home I'd have more than one safe maybe 10 each welded with re bar and set in concrete they'd have to use a jack hammer and all weekend that's if they find all 10 maybe I'd leave an empty one in the closet.

Cute

If it was random burglars they might have had a chance of finding the safe abandoned somewhere if the thieves couldn't get it open and didn't think it contained much, it was only a 3 feet tall safe after all. No chance of that now.

Turns out the owners of the house were associates of the guzman mexican drug empire; that was a little piece of the action...........Hmmmm..... somebody KNEW the goodies were there..hmmmmmm.....

I'm surprised at how many people want to blame the victims. Your property should be safe, even if it's setting on your front lawn. Calling victims stupid is in it self stupidity.

Jack: My closest neighbor is TWO miles away.

arizona: my family used to have neighbors far away as well, i'm just conditioned now where my neighbors are maybe four feet away, haha.

Ditto

rich people who have much more than $10 million

Right, mine is bolted to my cement foundation. Pretty sure you can't weld it to a wall, unless of course you go steel walls.

And only one person is claiming their was that much cash in it. To me it seems ridiculous to have that much money in a safe, uninsured, so ridiculous, I would say unbelievable, as in I don't buy it.

Just shows you that you ain't gotta be smart to get rich, just fall into the right set of circumstances. (Just don't say that to a rich person; they seem to be convinced that they're all smarter and work harder than the rest of us.)

That is, if this is true. Something smells funny in L.A., and it ain't the smog today.

Who does this? Someone like Romney to who 10 million is pocket change.

Big time drug dealers keep large sums of cash.. Bet it was money and things they were hiding from the tax man.. And you do know it is illegal to have more than $50k in cash unless you declare it to the Government.. Hell you can't take more than $10k in cash out of a bank without signing a federal tracking and possession form.. We got so mad at a bank one time that we forced them to give us cash when we closed out our accounts with them.. Try it some time its a good way to stick it to a bank that screws good customers around.. They get real pissed having to sit there and count out all that money..

We just had a similar robbery like this in the Portland, OR area and the victims were East Indians who kept generations of gems and heirlooms in their homesafe . . . bet this is the same situation . . .

Forget the $10 million in safe..forget the safe empty..forget the two dogs..I can't afford any of them!

No one...thats a cover story for the insurance company...:p

"No one...thats a cover story for the insurance company...:p"

The owners stated the contents of the safe were not insured.

Nobody can get my safe the slab of the house was poured around it. Now I just wish I had something of value to put in the safe.

Hmmm.10 million in cash and jewels? And not insured. Or likely not reported to the tax authoririties either...

Anybody who is dumb enough to keep $10 mil in house w/out insurance deserves to be robbed...

If I were IRS, I will check that person's tax returns so thoroghly, he will not need medical exam in the next couple years.. colonoscopy, check prostate, vagina etc etc...

What? surely you don't think the rich pay TAXES, do you? That's for the lower class......

Cash isn't taxed... The jewelry may need to be declared, but I have never noticed it asked for. Typically you would pay sales tax when you buy it. As far as I know, the only things taxed in my area are:

- Income (Including interest and dividends...)

- House

- Car

Denton........cash is certainly taxed, when you EARN it ! Why would anyone have millions in cash in a home safe and not in banks ? The assumption is that they had the cash because they did not report it to IRS when they earned it, and/or it comes from some illegal sources. No one with a brain larger than a pea keeps that much cash in a portable safe unless they are hiding it from IRS.

Abdallah: NO ONE deserves to be robbed.

Gotta love someone calling someone else an idiot especially when they themselves don't seem too bright! It's "their" stuff not "there" stuff #duh

Yeah,,and calling a "safe deposit box" a safety deposit box.

Watch out for tossing stones when you live in a glass house.

Max^108 and it is likely that the "victims" know the people who pulled the heist.

Dangit!

@Jay- you suck, thanks a lot! LOL arggggg

Actually, going back to break in after the fact, and releasing the dogs, smell really highly of an inside job. Someone well known to the dogs. Someone familiar with the alarm, so not to set it off while moving the safe and loading it. Someone wanting to make it look like a forcible entry.

While a 3' high safe is not that big, depending on its construction it could weigh between about 175# and 1500#. And awkward enough to require at least two or three people and maybe a lift gate to load into a truck. Another factor to look at is how much damage was done to doors, walls and the stairs. Little damage reflects concern for the house, perhaps by the owner or close friend or relative?

Anchor any safe. If two men could install it, unsecured; two men can steal it.

Most safes of this nature are either drilled or peeled. Drilling attacks the lock bolt, while peeling attacks the case. Higher end safes will have relockers which may be engaged by a bungled drilling attempt. Peeling reguires cutting through the side of the case, and can risk burning interior contents. Most lock punching and door prying, as seen on some TV reality shows, only works on cheap, low end boxes. But all require time, some noise and working space.

Kitty: Years ago most banks closed down. A lot of people lost everything. My grandparents and many others in their age group didn't trust banks. Their are still some that don't.

You forgot e) lying through their teeth.

And f) in on the job.

shawn,

Check your policy. Most require special riders for high value items. Most have a $10k limit on cash and a similar limit on jewelry, coins or stamps. And may even require independent appraisal and cataloguing before a rider will be written.

Regarding the weight of your safe, a couple of determined thieves with adequate time and a few pipe rollers can easily remove it, unless it is secured. I once worked for a firm who made plate safes for banks. Most were designed for either vault installations or encasement in concrete. We had one free-standing unit with an outer shell and alarm wire wrap. When installed, it had the outer shell filled with sand or concrete. Shipping weight about 3000# plus interior, usually shipped seperately. When filled, 7000#+ with sand, nearly 10000# when concrete filled. And anchoring was still advised.

shooting the flies around your crotch.

I agree, something isn't right. They broke into the house, set off the alarm. Either searched the house or knew the safe was in there, found the rug, dragged it down the stairs, out the front door and got away before the cops came? My questions are, if they knew the safe was in there, why they didn't bring a dolly? Also, they had to climb a wall to get onto the property but was able to get the safe through this magical wall? Also the dogs where found a mile away at a neighbors house? I don't consider people living a mile away my neighbors...Very odd

Distance away is relative... I consider people within a mile to be next door neighbors, and am on a first name basis with them all.

incredible insight. I have no idea why these people didn't hire you beforehand

Hot-in-Miami:

LOL!

That's What's Up-:

Read between the lines, will you? Hot in Miami is right; banks are less likely to have an area rug in order to drag off the safety deposit box!

Actually, not necessarily true. I have nothing against safety deposit boxes, per se. I used to work on their manufacture and even their design.

However, consider the following. Your access to your property is now at the discretion of the bank. In an emergency, you will probably have no access. Check your box lease, it probably severely limits the bank's liability from loss; still requiring you to seperately insure your valuables. And a search warrant to open a box is served on the bank, not to you; so your first clue that someone else has searched the box is that the box has been rekeyed.

Things to keep in a safety deposit box? Certificates of deposit, bonds, stock shares not held at the broker, corporate or business fillings, tax returns, land deeds and car titles. Things not needed except during business hours and with some notice. Things that can be kept in a box: jewelry, rare coins or stamps. Things which can be retrieved with notice. Things NOT to leave in a box: any cash except collectables, your birth certificate and passport, most jewelry worn on a semi-regular basis, anything potentially embarassing (your antique erotica/porn collection), and gold or silver; anything you might want to put your hands on during weekends, the evening, or one of ten bank holidays each year. And obviously, you can't leave your box key (now a valuable possession) in your box. And for the loss of access and limited security, you will pay. And pay handsomely for a box, boxes or a locker adequate to hold boxed jewely sets.

Bill:

You are probably right but I would still say that a safety deposit box in the bank is still less likely to be stolen like the safe was from the "victims" house using a rug.

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