Oh, you know there's going to be a fair share of ignorant "they should've gone back to where they came from" / "they didn't belong here anyway" remarks. And plenty of pseudo-defense for the good ol' boys who were responsible.

Hey, North Carolina ----- If ..... those arrested are found guilty, they should be EXECUTED WITHIN A FORTNIGHT, preferably via WOOD CHIPPER and viewed by pay per view television, with all proceeds to be given to the families of the deceased. This would give the grieving to be compensated in some fashion and at the same time be a real learning experience for any and all other low lifes who would even contemplate such horrific crimes as to what would await them as well.

@StandUpJokeOff - You need to learn to read - there is NOTHING in this story that suggests "good ol' boys" did this. Read the names of the perpetrators, learn something about the culture of the country you live in, or be doomed to saying the moronic things only ignorant tools say (bump your IQ up into the triple digits before you call anyone ignorant). More like StandUpJACKOff.

Robbob - You may be right, the perps clearly had something against middle easterners.... but what do you think the chance of it be prosecuted as a hate-crime are? Since the perps aren't white it is 0%.

jokeoff - "plenty of pseudo-defense for the good ol' boys who were responsible."

Yes, Antwan Andre and Xavier Montel are clearly "good ol boys". (sarcasm)

How about a "psuedo-defense" for your obvious hatred, prejudice and inability to read and understand the simplest article?

eight-month sentence on two charges, one of them, carrying a concealed weapon....

'nuff said. Like steroids - Concealed weapons turn As - shats into SuperMan.

Let's see here, four black men brutally murder three youths from Yemen. Then there is the tale of the two black teenagers who attacked an older white man with a hammer, brutally beating him while dragging him from his car into the woods where they continued to beat him with the hammer. The victim is on life support. This happened in Sanford, not too far from where the rally for Justice for Trayvon is going on.

Then there is the story of three black males killing a white university student. Not to make to obvious an observation here but it would seem that quite a few young black males are indeed brutal, violent and murderous. Where are the rallies demanding justice for their victims?

Will Obama state that these victims could have been his son? Will Holder prosecute these crimes as race crimes? Will he send in the FBI to investigate for a possible hate crime motive? Do we see a double standard here?

Like another poster commented on is the complete lack of interest in this story, unlike the Martin/Zimmerman case which has had over 10,000 comments on over a dozen stories in the last 19 days this one got very little attention.

This is even more confusing, 4 unarmed black young people including a pregnant woman were shot in Stanford Florida this week just blocks from were the marches are taking place. Barely a blip about this on MSNBC and nothing from the "normally outraged" posters on here. here is a link to the story on msnbc.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46952161/#.T31bh1tAUTA

How is "race" involved in this?

Jo-An..

The African-American perpetrators were caught on survellience video killing the store clerks in cold blood. They offered no resistance and gave the "African-American" youth everything they wanted.

But NO-WHERE is Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, The "New Black Panther Party" or even Mr. Obama spewing their own version of racist vitriol. Al and Jessie aren't spewing hate about the blacks that killed the store clerks, the NBPP didn't come out and offer a reward for the perpetrators capture, and we didn't have Mr. Obama saying how the shooters could be his sons.

So Jo-An... I ask you how is "race" involved in this?

XDm9mm,

The African-American perpetrators were caught on survellience video killing the store clerks in cold blood. They offered no resistance and gave the "African-American" youth everything they wanted.

I STILL don't see THAT written in this article, I just re-read it, I still don't see that written anywhere.

The killers have been arrested and are in police custody, why would anyone be doing anything?

You are showing your hood there XD!

Maybe if you had seen the photos posted yesterday you would have a fuller grasp.

try this source:http: //www.wxii12.com/news/30818866/detail.html

I don't need to see a photo. I don't care if they are red, green, purple or pink, there is NOTHING to suggest this crime had anything to do with race.

You are just trying to stir $&!# up.

You're entitled to your opinion.

Personally, I don't care what color they were either. They were caught on tape doing the crime.

Give them their trial as the Constitution requires and then execute them. There are no mitigating factors or considerations to be considered. When found guilty, take them to the town square and execute them. Prefferably by firing squad. Let them feel and suffer them same fate they gave their victims.

The victims should have done one thing differently: they should have been armed and vigilant. If they did that, they would have been alive. I sure hope the maggots who killed them get the death penalty. This is the only language scum like them understands.

Ah, Jo An, but you see the Trayvon killing wasn't about race either and Al and Jesse are working real hard to make it about race. You could say THEY are stirring @!$%# up.

As you said XDm9mm and mygirl1. And Jo-An-4354969 don't you get Robbob-1667446's point? it is about how this case is handled totally differently than the Martin/Zimmerman case, which has been portrayed as a racism case (which as mygirl1 points out, it is not).

Jo-An

This is from one of my earlier post on a different story about a white student gunned down by three black males in Mississippi to highlight the fact that most of these cases are not about race, just as the Martin/Zimmerman case is also not about race. Now there are those involve in that case that have worked very hard at making it about race for monetary and political gain, they spent 3 weeks prepping, sanitizing and manipulating the material facts of the case in order to stir up tensions, basically feeding off Trayvon's death.

No robbob is trying to point out that to bring in race only when it is convenient for the liberal left is racism at it's worst, personally I believe that THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE THE HUMAN RACE.

Now you are welcome to believe what ever you want about this, but I can prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that the extra hype generated by the left on the Martin/Zimmerman case is purely about creating an uproar for those involved for their own gain and nothing to do with wanting to protect young black people.

This story is from yesterday and it is getting no attention from those that are crying for justice, 4 young blacks including a pregnant woman are shot just blocks from the marches and rallies and there is nothing from you are anyone else demanding justice for them.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46952161/#.T35E8ltAUTA

WHY IS THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now you are welcome to believe what ever you want about this, but I can prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that the extra hype generated by the left on the Martin/Zimmerman case is purely about creating an uproar for those involved for their own gain and nothing to do with wanting to protect young black people.

please, DO "PROVE" your assertions!

Bad stuff happens EVERY DAY,

no attention from those that are crying for justice, 4 young blacks including a pregnant woman are shot just blocks from the marches and rallies

to equate one with the other is absurd!

My proof is in your complete lack of outrage, regard and even the least bit of caring by you and all the others.

You and the rest like you are choosing to continue inflame the rhetoric of the Martin/Zimmerman case while at the same time trying to deny that when the situation is reversed that it can be a hate crime, this case is a hate crime and should be treated as such. The shooters acted with pure hatred towards the victims.

That fact that you can brush off 4 shootings of a UNARMED 17 YEAR OLD BLACK MALE AND A BLACK PREGNANT WOMAN ALONG WITH 2 OTHER VICTIMS with a comment like.

Bad stuff happens EVERY DAY,

That has to be one of the most outrages things I have ever seen on these boards, YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING.

What would you have "me" do? Start an online petition to "arrest" these idiots?

Oh, wait they HAVE been arrested!

I see no indication of racial profiling, or lack of police investigation.

It is a horrible crime, and I have faith they will be sentenced fairly,

but, should I hear differently, I will protest!

Actually no they haven't been arrested and not one ounce of giva @!$%#e from anyone because it is black on black crime.

They'll show up to complain when the murderers receive an "unfair" trial because they are black.

Why do people keep saying this? And always on articles where the guilty have been apprehended and the wheels of justice (though a little wobbly sometimes) are already turning...

They can't help it - they are so programed to complain they are like Pavlov's dogs. As Soon as they hear the bell they start drooling, whether there is fresh meat or not.

Besides - it so cool to say stuff like "Jesse, Al, NAACP and all of the other race baiters"... its almost as good as sitting around with a few Bubba's, stroking a fire and drinking suds.

Nah, they're just tired of the double standard. Hate is when a white hispanic kills a black teenager, black teenagers killing white, hispanic, muslim, etc. is not a hate crime or a race crime, nope, it is 'getting even.'

How is race involved?

Believe me moron, you don't want those middle eastern civil leaders protesting for justice in the name of Allah. Leave those MF's alone!

Meanwhile...back at the ranch

Little Nell and 6 other school Marms, students killed - 7 killed, other wounded by Korean shooter.

At a press briefing with Mayor Jean Quan and others, Police Chief Howard Jordan said suspect One L. Goh was in the custody of Oakland police in connection with Monday's shooting spree, an event that he described as "shocking" and "senseless."

He said the police had not identified a motive, nor did the suspect have any known criminal history. He said Goh is a Korean national.

“It's going to take us a few days to put the pieces together," Jordan said

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Jo-An-4354969

How is race involved?

Oh I don't know, but how was race involved in the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman case? that's the point. A lot of people are fed up with the medias and Trayvon's family supporters, including Jesse Jackson, using the racism card because a white guy was involved, while we all know that if a black guy had been the shooter, or a white guy the victim, we wouldn't have heard of it near as much (or at least not as a racism issue), that's all.

Anna, you involve "race", not the other way around.

Actually Jo-An I didn't, I was replying to you who were replying to lovestevie. Personally I don't care what race these 3 guys are, they are 3 cold blooded murderers and I would feel just the same about them if they were white or any other color. The point of lovestevie's post (and other similar posts) is that in this case there is no mention of race or racism in the article, contrary to the Martin/Zimmerman's case which we have been hearing about for a while now, where the white guy has automatically been labeled a racist.

I agree, this should have nothing to do with race but I have seen blame whitey comments as well though it's not as common. The men who raped and murdered two girls and their mother in CT were white. People of all races do some terrible things but I'm not about to snub my black neighbor because some @!$%#s, who are also black, murdered some people. That'd be pretty silly and hurtful.

So why is there so little interest in this article? 16 posts as I post this. Oh yeah, I already know what the answer is, there are no white people involved to be reviled. When a white kills a white who is there to blame except the perpetrator--same as with blacks killing blacks. There is only a massive reaction when a white person kills a black because the media can initially demonize the one who did the killing with impunity (the advertisers love it). They can't do that if the killer is black. Can you imagine the uproar if they did?

I'm still trying to figure out why anyone is talking about race?

Seems some crazy robbers hit up a convenience store, and killed the innocent store clerks, and were CAUGHT, and are now in jail, awaiting a hearing!

Right where they belong!

It has NOTHING to do with race!

It has NOTHING to do with race!

Bingo. And neither did / does the Trayvon Martin case. Thats the point!

comonsenz-658664

Thank you.... a very succinct and telling statement.

muddiemike....

I understand and appreciate your feelings, I also have them. HOWEVER... I am also a strong believer in that document called The Constitution.

Regardless of what was seen on video tape, unless the admit guilt before trial, they are, as all of us are, entitled to a trial. I know it seems to be an unnecessary step, but it IS a guaranteed right afforded to the people in the United States.

I WILL say that if and when they are found guilty, which to me is a foregone conclusion considering the video evidence against them, they should be executed within 30 to 60 days of conviction. There are NO mitigating factors to be considered. There should be no clemency. They should suffer the same fate as their victims. Execution by firing squad.

Mike

Everybody deserves a trial, but when they have you on videotape, the trial should real short, and the execution real swift.

' Both white and black agree, on average, that blacks are more aggressive and violent than whites.'

Really? What study group's assessment are you basing that statement on?

losconinhum

"Blacks kill whites 18 times more than whites kill blacks. Both white and black agree, on average, that blacks are more aggressive and violent than whites."

Did you type that with a straight face? Surely you're the dumbest piece of trailer trash on here. Blacks more violent than whites? What country have you done research on for the past 400 years, it's sure not this one!

I think you are a "No Limit Nigga."

2009 FBI murder statistics reveal that of the 3,518 white people murdered, 2,963 of the murderers were white and 454 were black. In that same time period 2,867 black people were murdered, 2,604 of the murderers were black and 209 were white. Seems blacks kill each other more than they kill white people and the same is said for white people who kill each other more frequently than do blacks.

That being said, perhaps Al and Jesse should focus on the murder rate in general, or, if they want to keep it a true racial issue, they should focus on the numbers of black people killing other black people. Those numbers are the telling numbers, not white on black but rather, black on black.

Definetly pulled this one out from under the white sheet he was wearing at the time.

7 dead and not one racist remark?

We have troops over there trying to keep North Korea in check ... what do we get in return? Restaurants, Hyundai's and Kia's and Mass -Murder?

At a press briefing with Mayor Jean Quan and others, Police Chief Howard Jordan said suspect One L. Goh was in the custody of Oakland police in connection with Monday's shooting spree, an event that he described as "shocking" and "senseless."

He said the police had not identified a motive, nor did the suspect have any known criminal history. He said Goh is a Korean national.
“It's going to take us a few days to put the pieces together," Jordan said

Because they were No Limit Nigga's.

Jo-An...

I completely agree....

However, when heineous crimes like this are committed by blacks against others, the typical race baiters like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, the NBPP and even our President are no-where to be found.

If this HAD been a few white country boys that did this and the victims were black, it would be national news. Al, Jesse and the NBPP would be all over it. And Obama would be calling in the Federal LEOs and telling the local police how stupid they were. (He never DID apologize for that remark.)

People are tired of the whites are the only racists attitude displayed by everyone else.

I see no parallel between this case and the Trayvon Martin case. If Zimmeman had been arrested, charged with a crime, even just manslaughter, we wouldn't even know either of their names!

It is a case of justice, not race.

Jo-An... it's a double standard.

And while I agree Zimmerman should have been detained longer, he's cooperating with the police, and won't be charged until a case, if any, is developed.

It's NOT a double standard!

If these guys were questioned and let go......

THEN it would be a double standard, as it is, it's NOT!

Jo-an, i agree that this crime probably wasnt "race motivated." I also agree with the comments of the double standard of the ACLU, NCAAP, AL sharton, jeese j and all these other groups that HAVE NEVER ONCE DEFENDED THE UNJUSTNESS OF A WHITE PERSON!!! When a black kills a white, they have never stood up for justice of the white person, and I think that is why many people are sick of all this BS race stuff. Especially me. Basically, people are sick of these groups not standing up for victims of crimes committed by black people.

Everyone talks how race shouldn't matter, and i completely agree, but why is the first thing mentioned, in just about anything, the color of a persons skin!! A white male, a black male, hispanic, etc. If race doesn't matter, why is it the first question asked on just about any form you ever fill out!!!

American-guy below me makes a good point as to what is being taught to our children, and he is exactly right. Hatred is a learned response, therefor, can be unlearned if parents do thier job, and from what I see from our youth, there is a whole lot of bad parenting going on. Parenting, to me, has gone down the @!$%#ter, and that is where you stop this nonsense of violence and hatred.

Oh come on Jo-an, take off your blinders. It most certainly is a double standard.. Wheres the presidents comments? wheres the media out lash at the perps who shot the middle easterners? Re read the story, it doesn't say a thing about the killers being black (but they are).. now why is that? yet if we go back and read the opening story on Trayvon it openly states a Hispanic, and also many posters were referring to Zimmerman as white.. Sharpton and Jackson jumped in with Obama and turned it (on purpose) totally racial and the dead kids parents are still profiting off their son being shot.. we could go on and on.. all people want to see is fair news stories.. stop chastising white America, frankly we are sick of it.

The president was "asked" about Trayvon Martin, he responded.

Trayvon's parents were trying to get some answers about their child's murder. A red headed Irish, law student heard, and started an online petition "Justice for Trayvon". They called Rev Sharpton, and he responded.

It's racial, IMO, because, if a black man had murdered a white teen, he would have been arrested, awaiting a trial. The SPD are a bunch of good ole boys, with a history of racial injustices, they needed the spotlight shone upon them.

There is NO evidence that these "middle easterners" were targeted by a group of "blacks". By suggesting such a thing, you are just showing your racist feelings.

The president was "asked" about Trayvon Martin, he responded.

Now why on earth would the leader of the free world make any comment whatsoever about some 2 bit murder to some kid down in Florida a month ago when there are countless murders every day, all across the country and he doesn’t say a word.. How about this for a reply “no comment”?

Trayvon's parents were trying to get some answers about their child's murder. A red headed Irish, law student heard, and started an online petition "Justice for Trayvon". They called Rev Sharpton, and he responded.

First of all the tawdry “reverend” (and I puke a bit giving him such a title) doesn’t have to be called, he comes out of the woodwork on call.. To make a buck. He is a worm’s worm, the lowest form of life. And a grand standing liar to boot. If the parents were so intent on “answers” then wait for the legal proceeds to take their course. If the parents didn’t like the outcome of the courts then get a lawyer… not some civil liberties leech lawyer bent on making himself a rep off some dead kid who got shot and we still don’t know exactly why.

It's racial, IMO, because, if a black man had murdered a white teen, he would have been arrested, awaiting a trial. The SPD are a bunch of good ole boys, with a history of racial injustices, they needed the spotlight shone upon them.

It’s not racial at all IMO because there are unproven allegations that occurred in this particular incident. Once all the facts come out maybe their will be, but not right now. As for the “had a black man” yada, yada, yada… not necessary and not proven.. if the kid had been white and Zimmerman black we would have seen the same criminal probe and the same results as we have seen.. What we wouldn’t have seen is the ridiculous chants, marches and foolish dribble we have seen from the race opportunists.

There is NO evidence that these "middle easterners" were targeted by a group of "blacks". By suggesting such a thing, you are just showing your racist feelings.

There is no evidence that Trayvon Martin was killed by a white Hispanic purely because he was black. The mere fact that the victims were Middle Eastern and killed and that one was even younger (15) than Trayvon is outrageous.. Where’s the public outcry? The middle easterners were in fact targeted by the black criminals. The blacks in this case were going to murder them and they didn’t care.. Im sure you could care less, you want to continue on protecting the criminal’s elements in our society.. They should take those 4 killers out to the back of that store and shoot them on the spot.. Just like they did to those victims. Lets stop the pitty party, shall we? Your racist attitude is offending.

Nice try Jo An but most people are tired of the double standard. You're being disingenuous because you don't like the truth and you do see the truth of the matter. Persisting in the 'but it's not race' meme is a rather tranparent attempt to make this story somehow 'different' from Trayvon. Zimmerman wasn't out looking to kill a black person, he wasn't robbing convenience stores and killing three unarmed men in cold blood. The facts here are that BLACK males killed three Middle Easterners aka: Muslims, and not one peep out of the media, the president. Sharpton, et al. If you want to get honest rather than attempting to continue pushing an agenda, this is far more likely to be a race crime because of the religion of the victims and...Trayvon is neither a race nor a hate crime. But keep spinning...

mygirl,

I'M BEING DISINGENUOUS?

because you don't like the truth and you do see the truth of the matter.

You know the truth? Unless you were there, you DON'T!

Zimmerman wasn't out looking to kill a black person, he wasn't robbing convenience stores and killing three unarmed men in cold blood.

And Trayvon was?

The facts here are that BLACK males killed three Middle Easterners aka: Muslims, and not one peep out of the media, the president. Sharpton, et al.

BLACK being your highlighted word...

Muslims, and not one peep out of the media

Are you that freaking ignorant, that you "assume" that the victims were :Muslim"? What in this article led you to THAT conclusion??

WHERE in this article was religion mentioned? Why do YOU assume they are Muslim?

They victims were from Yemen. Yemen is a predominantly Muslim country. Did you read the article? BLACK was written in all caps because you are fixated on Zimmerman being WHITE even though he is half white and half hispanic. Answer honestly, if Zimmerman were black would you care about the story?

Trayvon was a tragedy of epic proportions, however, attempting to turn it into a hate or race crime? Really?

.

Seems like a lot a "race baiters" posting here, just to stir up $&!%

Nothing suggests "race" was involved here at all!

Just crazy thugs robbing, killing, and trying to get away with it!

It has NOTHING to do with RACE! JO-AN

No everyone is trying to point out that to bring in race only when it is convenient for the liberal left is racism at it's worst and this actually has a very good chance to be racially motivated because the victims were gunned down for no reason, one of them being a 16 year old boy.

And just in case you did see it earlier why haven't you commented on the other shootings in Stanford Fl. just blocks from the Justice Marches going on.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46952161/#.T35E8ltAUTA

No everyone is trying to point out that to bring in race only when it is convenient for the liberal left is racism at it's worst and this actually has a very good chance to be racially motivated because the victims were gunned down for no reason, one of them being a 16 year old boy.

Please, explain....

Sorry but I agree with the others who mention the double standard. I think that if Zimmerman had been black and Martin white the outcome would have been exactly the same for Zimmerman (i.e. conclusion: self defense), then Martin's family would have asked for an investigation (which I would have demanded too if Martin had been my kid), but there would have been no mention or racism, no rallies, no Jesse Jackson support, and no one would have labeled Zimmerman a racist.

And no I'm not a racist, never have been, we are all just humans and equal.

I agree, except, there was NO investigation being done, until there was public outcry.

Why??

Jo-an, the problem, in my opinion, is not the public outcry, I totally understand that, and as I said I certainly would have demanded an investigation too if I had been Trayvon's mother, the problem is that the public outcry is based on the assumption that Zimmerman is a racist and that he killed Martin because he was black. Racism being the key word, with people like Jesse Jackson giving their support again because Martin was black, if Martin had been white I doubt we would have seen Jesse Jackson (and others) at the rallies and supporting the family.

And about why there was no investigation done; well first I am not sure there was no investigation going on (I don't know what the procedures are for cases that are considered self-defense), but either way as I mentioned in my previous post, I think the outcome (before outcry) would have been the same if Zimmerman had been black and Martin white (i.e. conclusion self defense), except the support and rallies (assuming there would have been support as it is the case right now if Martin had been white) wouldn't have been based on the assumption that Zimmerman (and the police department) was racist, and it wouldn't have been a racial issue. This is what bothers me, not the outcry, not the support of people demanding an investigation, but the fact that it is based on racism, because Zimmerman was a white guy, and Martin a black guy, it is assumed that Zimmerman was a racist.

I also don't like the fact that it goes much further then support for an investigation, to where some people have already condemned Zimmerman, gave his parents house address (Spike Lee tried, and then Roseanne Barr gave the right address on Twitter), and are threatening him and his family. Personally I don't know if he is guilty or not (i.e. self defense or not), I prefer to wait for a trial and/or investigation, I would hate to condemn someone based on what I read in the medias. And speaking of the medias, I also disagree with the way they have been playing with people's feelings, among other things by showing pictures of Trayvon when he was about 13 year old and an old picture of Zimmerman from when he was a delinquant, not to mention the way they edited the 911 call to make him look racist.

I don't know if Zimmerman is a racist, and I actually have thought all along, that Zimmerman probably shot Trayvon accidentally. My "opinion" is that Zim thought he was Barney Fife, and could detain Trayvon until the police arrived and something went wrong, and somebody died.

I am angry at the Sanford PD, they operate like the good ole boys they still are, and they need to stop! Research their racial history. I live not too far from there, and I drive through that area, I also have police friends that confirm my opinion. I completely disagree, that this story would have been the same if Trayvon was white.

I am angry that Zims story was taken as Gospel, while Trayvon was "assumed" to be up to no good, some how, with no reason. I'm angry that people are saying he somehow deserved to be shot and killed, that he didn't belong in that neighborhood, that he "attacked" zim, ALL of that angers me!

I'm in no way condoning Black Panthers, Spike Lee, or any other renegade activity. I have seen lots of pictures of both zim and Trayvon, and the pictures haven't swayed my feelings. Same with the 911 audio, I listened to the police version, and heard zim reply to question of color, I ALSO heard him say f-ing COONS, under his breath!

I fear, there will be NO evidence, because none was collected. I want to see the investigation finished and hopefully there will be charges, and we can let a jury decide.

There would have been NO investigation, without public outrage!

Jo-Ann, I don't agree with people who assume that Trayvon deserved to be shot and killed nor that he didn't belong in that neighborhood either, but I don't agree either with people who assume that Zimmerman is guilty and that he is a big bad racist while Martin is an angel (neither is true, at least if I judge from their past). We don't know yet if Martin attacked Zimmerman or not, but eventho I don't assume that he did, I do tend to think that he did, because if Zimmerman actually wanted to shoot him (as some people seem to believe that he is a cold blooded murderer) I think he would have done so from a distance and not risk a fight, and also considering the size of each guy, if he did then he obviously shouldn't have, and if Zimmerman did then he obviously shouldn't have either.

In fact, none of us knows enough about this to condemn either of them.

And p.s. don't forget there is quite a few witnesses.

And yeah you're right it wouldn't have been the same, in a case of self-defense, there probably would have been the same procedure as usual, but investigation or not There would have been NO public outrage if Martin had been white.

There would have been NO public outrage if Martin had been white.

because his shooter would be facing charges right now!

And p.s. don't forget there is quite a few witnesses.

Unfortunately, non saw how it started...and at least 3 say the police "changed" their account, to fit Zims version of events, if true, that doesn't look too good for the SPD...

We shall see, I'm just happy an investigation is being done.

Actually Jo-An, if I judge from your questions and your replies, I strongly doubt that you're "just happy an investigation is being done", what you want is a conviction.

I have been replying to you, answering your questions, which I thought were genuine, honestly, and explaining that I think the public and medias reactions wouldn't have been the same if Zimmerman was black and Martin white. While I thought you sincerely only wanted a fair handling of the case, now I realise that this double standard unfortunately applies to you as well, and that YOU wouldn't have reacted the same way if Zimmerman was black and Martin white. As others mentioned, when you call him Zimmie or Zimmerass, it shows very well that your opinion is already made about him, you have already decided that he is guilty.

You say there would have been an investigation if Martin was white uh, are you even ever aware of cases of self-defense where a black guy killed a white guy? and if so, have you ever actually looked into it and made sure there had been an investigation? I am fairly certain that you didn't. Why? because you probably never even heard of these cases, and even if you did hear of them you probably didn't bother making sure there had been investigations in their cases.

You also tell me the pictures and editing of the 911 sound files haven't swayed your feelings. Well I'm really glad if they didn't, but I seriously doubt it, it would affect any normal person's feelings when they see the picture of a guy who looks like a tough delinquant compared with the picture of a kid who looks like a 13 yr old angel (versus a guy who looks his age, acts tough, shows his gold teeth, his tatoos, and the finger), and the medias know this very well, that's why they showed those pictures instead of recent ones, and that's why they edited the sound files too, so Zimmerman would sound like a racist.

All this said, this is a tragedy, no question about that. There is one person dead, and more then one person who's life will never be the same, even if Zimmerman is not convicted. And it probably could have been avoided. I hope the majority of people who are involved in neighborhood watch realise that if a "suspect" sees them, he/she probably won't react to their presence the way they would have if they were a cop, there is more chances that they will confront them instead of running away, and any confrontation could end the same way it did for Zimmerman/Martin.

And I am done replying to you.

Anna,

I ABSOLUTELY THINK Zimmie is GUILTY! I thought I made that clear...

I will accept the results of the investigation being done now, I might not like it, but I'll accept it. Juries have to work with what they have.

Remember OJ? Or how about Casey Anthony?

I also said, I doubt the Sanford Police did their job, so he may very well get away with murder.

No need to reply....

Sadly American Guy, racism and hate is as common, and often much worse, in many other countries. Just look at Somalia for example, and look at how it was in South Africa too, and in Iraq and Iran where the kurdish population is being oppressed, and so many many other countries have hate and racism issues.

Which doesn't mean we shouldn't do our best to become better tho.

Hopefully one day this statement from Bahá'u'lláh will become true: “The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens”

lawrence...sorry, but I have NEVER met or seen or known any white male having the name of "Antwan", but as Jo-An above says, stop trying to paint this as a race situation until all the facts become known.

Yeah, the names are usually Chip, Dave, Colt, Dick,Billy Bob and Mitt...

I also think you would like to bang Chip, Dave, Dick, Billy and especially Mitt!

Because THESE clowns are in JAIL!

Anyone with the moniker, No-bama haas ZERO credibility!

Jo An: Ahh, but these guys did indeed murder in cold blood.

Now, until the facts are all in the self-defense issue still stands with Trayvon's killing. Sorry but trying Zimmerman in the court of public opinion, especially after discovering that NBC doctored the tapes to make it sound like Zimmerman was a racist, and after ABC releases enhanced video that does indeed show Zimmerman's injuries and CNN enhances the 911 tapes and indeed the word 'coon' is not in use...well, doesn't look too good for the race baiters, now does it?

Nevermind, your mind is made up and facts, well, they're just an annoyance, you want to hang Zimmerman and no facts or proof of innocence will stand in the way of your prejudgement.

mygirl,

especially after discovering that NBC doctored the tapes to make it sound like Zimmerman was a racist, and after ABC releases enhanced video that does indeed show Zimmerman's injuries and CNN enhances the 911 tapes and indeed the word 'coon' is not in use..

really? really? NBC "edited" words out of context....it did NOT change the story,

ABC shows Zimmerman had some booboo's on the back of his head, only PROVING Zimmie was NOT having his head "pounded on concrete", no one doubts there was a "scuffle", only WHO starred it.

CNN totally PROVED F-ing COON WAS what zimmie said!

I don't want to "hang" zimmerass, I actually think he did it accidentally, BUT I certainly want to see him stand before a jury of his peers, and face the music...

Dear God. Editing out of context does not change the story? Of course it changes the story. NBC was definitely looking to paint him as a racist, otherwise they wouldn't have edited the way they did. Several sentences edited, leaving out the pertinent questions coming from the dispatcher. It was the dispatcher who asked what race Trayvon was, Zimmerman didn't just up and state that he was black.

We can only hope and Pray you never get called up for jury duty.

Don't know where you got your info but CNN today stated that 'coon' was not the word used. Oh, and when you use "Zimmerass" your bias is revealed.

Al... While I'm still waiting for the "facts" about the Zimmerman case to be divulged... we all know we can't trust MSNBC or any organization affiliated with them, I have one question;

What pray tell is "You and your kind"? I don't necessarily agree with the position of Jo-An, however, I have no idea what "kind" she is.

Hey Al,

WRONG!

As a blue eyed, blond haired white woman, you are a disgrace to all races. You are ignorant as all get out. Do you actually even care that these men lost their lives or do you just search the Internet for stories you can put your ignorant racist minded comments on? The only thing that matters in this case is that 3 innocent men regardless of color or creed are dead and the suspects regardless of color have been caught. So why don't you do us all a favor and grab a rope and chair.....and then kick the chair away once the knot is tight around your pathetic neck!!!!!

NO-BAMA12

I know exactly what Al was saying. And I agree with you. I'm always playing devils advocate and asking the question of people "Why did you say what you said".

My only wish in this and all situations is that people would get beyond the race of the perpetrators and/or victims and actually focus on the heinous crime committed. And that people would stop trying to provide the perpetrators of these acts with supposed reasons for what they did, whether that is being "bullied", physically and/or sexually abused, harassed, poor or rich, or any of the other myriad "reasons" they give.

I guess I'm just too optimistic to think that will ever happen.

You can't just lump an entire race together, and say they "all" ANYTHING!

Charles Manson was white, therefore all whites are MURDERERS!

Isn't that just as ridiculous?

No, your ridiculous! Read my statement again. I stated Black Thugs, No limit Niggas and most. I did not state all Blacks.

Wild Bill... Actually you did....

Yet Blacks seem to be the most racist of all races

Yes, I do believe that Blacks are the most racist of races towards other races. I stand corrected in that regard. Nobody that is not Black on this blog can't say they haven't experienced that behavior whether justifed or not. If they say they haven't their full of BS.

Unless you have other information not available on this site, only THREE not four are in custody and being charged.

Sheriff Neil Elks announced the arrests of the two men and an unnamed juvenile Wednesday morning

its now 4

About - News & Issues (blog) · 8 hours ago

comonsenz-658664...

Apparently Charles Montaldo, the author of the About.com article you reference has problems counting the number of arrested in HIS OWN ARTICLE.

Residents in the small North Carolina town of Farmville may be finding some relief in the arrest of four suspects for the senseless killing of three young convenience store employees during an armed robbery. Two days after the bloody shootings authorities have arrested two men and a juvenile who were caught on video tape shooting the store owner's son and two of his cousins.

Three of the suspects lived in Farmville, population 4,500, and the other was from nearby Bethel, N.C.

Antwan Andre Anthony (left in photo), 29, of Bethel; Xavier Montel Shamble (right), 19, of Farmville; and an unnamed juvenile from Farmville were arrested late Tuesday and charged early Wednesday with three counts of murder, first-degree kidnapping, robbery and possession of a firearm by a felon.

Unless Charles has information about a fourth suspect which even HE doesn't acknowledge or note, I'd say it's just some poor math skills on his part!!

Of course we all know the media NEVER makes mistakes, don't we?