Just hope they catch the person or persons responsible real quick.

What is the difference between gang related murders and this? How would you know?

Now thats a good comment, and I concur. I am AA, and I do understand the importance of the AA communities problems. But slinging it at every turn makes it seem like sympathy for the shooter of Black people. This is a terrible crime and he needs to be found fast.

No sympathy for the shooter here. I just wish once they were caught and convicted they never saw the light of day again.

Dave, first I would like to point out I hate the phrase "race" community, always feels like we have secret meetings on how to devise a way to make another "community" cringe. On that note, you must know a very vast majority of educated African Americans as myself do not think sharptons or jacksons speak for any of us. I live in a community in Arizona. My community is very multiracial, but the fact is some crazies exist in all people. When crimes like these happen, we should not be trying to finger point and sling thou laundry is dirty too, so double standard. We arent children, lets be adult about this and just hope this guy is caught and soon. Education is key to solving ignorance.

Brando I completely understand your problem. I have many AA friends who live a typical American life. And they constantly are being lumped into the innercity or thug community. If they speak out they feel totally isolated. By the white community, because they are not sure what they will bring to the neighborhood and the black community for speaking out. Its lose ...lose for them. Jesse Jackson was practically crucified for speaking out.

I agree with you Paul and Bunkie... The facts need to be determined first to figure out what going on, so lets be patient. The lead investigator and FBI will follow every witness and clue to determine the exact motive.

Well.......someone should go down to the local street corner and track down these shooters and have a talk with them and find out what's going on in their life and why they feel they have gotten to this point in their life.

Thats what Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson says we should do......find a kid on the street corner and talk to him.

This sounds like the man who was going around stabbing black men, wasn't he caught trying to catch a plane somewhere?

I don't think anyone said the shooter was caucasian. They said what if the shooter was delibertly targeting blacks?

Hey sez come out of the basement and look at real life. It is the dems and people like you who need the race card to play.

Is Lee Boyd Malvo out of prison?

scopata messico

Where is Fat Butt Sharpton and Horse Face Jackson...........NOW??? They are overdue.......

Funny how people are quick to comdemn Al and Jesse for protesting, but if whites are so concerned about justice, why don't we see any white community activists protesting? I thought so. I'm not a fan of Al or Jesse, BUT if it wasn't for their voice there would be NO voices to protest racially-motivated crimes.

I hope that they catch the SOB that is doing this very quickly. People should not have to live in fear of being shot walking down the street in their neighborhood. My condolences to the families and friends of those who have been killed and I hope those that were injured make a speedy and complete recovery.

I think that some commenters here are reading things into the statement made by Rev. Blakney. I do not see anything in his statement where he makes any assumption about the race of the shooter. I do not think that there is anything racist about his comment that someone is targeting black people. He is simply stating an opinion that is pretty well supported by the facts since all of the victims have been black. Maybe he could have chosen his words more carefully instead of saying "my people," as this does to some people connote an us and them attitude, but I do not think that was his intent at all. I think he was just trying to say that as the local NAACP president he identifies with the victims.

Here we go again with the racist comments. Isn't this country divided enough without this crap. Skin color really makes no difference. No One knows the shooters skin color in this article. I feel sorry for the individuals who were shot or killed in this case.

This article does leave out some information. Although they don't have a lot of forensic evidence, witnesses describe the shooter as a white male.
Although the NAACP is involved, there is no "outcry," no rallies. The NAACP is working with residents to help them learn how to be vigilant and remain safe. In local news, they actually quote the Tulsa NAACP president, Rev. Blakney saying, "There’s no need to become a vigilante.”

Henderson said people should not let "some crazy, deranged person mess up their weekend

Spoken like the mayor in 'Jaws'.

people that cannot deal with the; melting pot of civilzation, really shouldn't Live Here......

How about some concern for the blacks targeting blacks? This shooter may be any color, but there needs to be an outcry for all deaths.

Love it!! Way to deflect off topic..... The story was about a white guy going round targeting black folks in Tulsa, OK (sorry to say, this type of serial, derangement is usually found in "those peoples" communities...).

Now!! lets go around blaming the only people who stick up for ANY black folks (not that they speak for all of us) and label them as racists!!!

In the words of Mr. Spock form Star Trek...

"Fascinating...(raising 1 eyebrow)"

I'm from Tulsa. There were some hate crimes recently in tulsa against white women where a black man beat and robbed them and a similar feature was him calling them "White Bitches" Could possibly be backlash against a hate crime committed by a black man on whites. But also, lets not be too quick to blame this as a hate crime either as we don't know the race or motive of the shooter(s)

I remember many years ago there was a famous serial killer who targeted only brunette women. Naturally at the time all the brunettes in this particular community were pretty frightened. How silly would it have been though if certain prominent brunette community leaders had gotten together and said "I’m on edge for my people"? Personally I’ve never thought of people with the same hair color, eye color, skin color, etc, as being "my people". My people are any people who are intelligent, rational, articulate, tolerant, fun loving human beings. Why would I feel some special bond or comradely with someone just because he shared certain physical attributes with me, regardless of his character? After all, that would be almost absurdly irrational. Also the fact of the matter is, all murderers are in bad shape psychologically speaking and it doesn’t really matter what flavor of crazy they are, so to speak. In other words it doesn’t matter if they are targeting whites, or blacks, or short people, or people who were born in a leap year. They are still just killers that must be stopped. And the fact of the matter is people in this community, no matter what their race, are still much more likely to die from any number of other causes than at the hands of a serial killer or any other type of murderer.

I wish the people would come up with a racial slur for white people other than "Cracker, Honky, white boy, White bread etc." When I hear that, it cracks me up. My Cousin Chris is Filipino, I am white. He calls me "Cracker", I call him "Mojado!" I personally think the racial name calling is a grade school mentality. Chris and I do it because it makes us laugh.

about 3 years ago we had black guys in a car in Va. going around shooting whites. Now its blacks. We need to stop with this race crap. The way I see it is a man or men are going around shooting men and who ever gets in their way. catch the fool and kill his ass. race is not important. what is important is the fact that lives were lost. lets catch this fool and hook his ass up. By the way im scotiresh\ cherokee. So I can see both sides to every story.

Unbelievable-895817

I re-read the story three times and never saw where they said the shooter was white.

Who knows this could be a plot to create more racial hate, at the rate this country is going its only a matter of time before things will get extremely out of hand, you all can figure it out for yourselves what the outcome will be a whole lot of dead people of every color ........

john, read the Tulsa local news.

I had a black friend call me cracker...I called him burnt toast. We would both crack up over this. lol It does not matter the color of our skin who is smarter than who.Or who is betterr than who. It only matters how much smartness God gave our brains. Race is not the issue on this. It matters that their is a dumb ass person out their taken lives. and this dumb ass person needs to be stoped.

brent guthrie

The only thing I could find was the NAACP stating that it was a hate crime apparently committed by a white person.

Do you have a better link that states it coming from authorities.

Seems to be a trend, I recall a similar story in a town in Florida just a couple of days ago, I think it stated 4 black youths including an unarmed 17 yo and a pregnant woman were shot, I believe it was called STANFORD FL. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46952161/#.T4CJz1tAUTA

That story got almost no attention, it happened just 2 blocks from the justice marches.

In this story here I can guarantee the shooter and the victims are all the same race, because there is ONLY ONE RACE THE HUMAN RACE.

I noticed that everytime it is a race issue everyone always say white or black. What about latino, asian, indian, middle easterners. the point I am trying to make is that this could a person or persons of any race. Its a shame that these murders happened and I pray that they dont continue. I also pray that this doesn't spark any other violence.

@john-737278

You are correct!! However...... There has been so much hate retaliation placed upon the black community I assumed (possibly correctly or incorrectly) the shooter was white. I'm not a racist though...... (I have seen that plenty of times, posted plenty of places so I guess that includes me as an non-racist too!!)

I certainly hope police are not profiling white men, it could have been a hispanic or oriental for all we know...........Let the investigators do their job before gathering a judge and jury like in Sanford Florida

....So what happens if the shooter turns out to be black..?

Better question.

What happens if he turns out to be black and admits to targeting black people?

I know I will most likely get crap for this, but I have to wonder how much good the Civil Rights Act of '64 has done. After 50 years it seems as if instead of changing peoples minds about equality, it has simply hidden the hate deeper and out of public conversation. It is clear it is still there.

In my view all, and I mean all, people are different. There are good in all races, as there are bad, and trying to legislate equality seems to be proven more and more every day a futile experiment.

Minutes after Fields was found, police found two men with gunshot wounds in another yard two blocks away. They were taken to hospitals in critical condition but expected to survive, police said...Police Capt. Steve Odom said in his 30 years with the police department, he'd never seen so many shootings happen in such a short time.

Let's hope that these shootings are not Zimmerman's legacy.

There are many people in this country sitting around with guns and rifles who will not admit it...but they would be glad to kill Blacks. Many of the skewed and crazy comments, such as blaming Obama for these killings proves that this is a very sick country. Who ever the shooter is, he should be quickly caught and arrested, unlike Zimmerman. Such actions would be honest law enforcement.

What about the two DC snipers? They were both black targeting others? As I recall, I remember EVERYBODY fearing for their lives regardless of gender, race, etc.

NBC purposely edited the tape to make it seem that Zimmerman was an outright racists. Equally all the news media purposely put up pictures of a 12 yr old vs a nearly grown up 17. Equally they put a mug shot of Zimmerman up instead of what he currently looks like. We have been fed a lot of twisted facts and it has caused a lot of hard feelings to surface.

A country can legislate laws, but they can't make people feel a certain way about others. If blacks have a good history with whites and other races they will have one attitude. If they feel they have gotten treated poorly they will feel otherwise. The same about whites and their one-on-one relationships. So do I think many hard feelings lie beneath the surface. Yes, I do. We have become a society that is intolerant of the intolerant. So if we don't like what one person is saying, we pass a low forbidding behavior and talk to reflect a better society. The problem is the hatred is still there. You can't legislate it away. Only honest dialogue can do that. The black community needs to have an honest dialogue with itself. Why is there so much black on black crime? What are so many black mothers alone raising their babies without a male? Why are so many blacks lacking even a high school education? Why isn't education a 1st priority? Why aren't there more black small businesses?
If you think my questions are unfair, I would ask the same about all races. The stats don't lie. Use the stats, instead of denying them, to figure out what is wrong and how to help. BTW, Hispanics lead minorities with respect to starting small businesses. I can see that just in my town.

John and others:
"On Friday afternoon detectives went back to the neighborhoods where the shootings occurred to speak to residents again, [Lead homicide detective Sgt. Dave] Walker said. Detectives were working through tips and leads they had received and were able to discern that a white man driving a white pickup might have been involved."
Read more from this Tulsa World article at:

Rooster-500885, he didn't say "our people," he said "my people." And he's obviously referring to people like himself who are being targeted by this killer: black people, as they're the only ones who have been victimized by this killer. Are you too slow to figure that out?

Ugh - if I come back in another life as a human - I'm going to be really pissed.

john, here is a link:

http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story/TPD-to-hold-press-conference-Saturday/m4ZUy7yDCUynZCYs1aLLJQ.cspz.

For all you people in the know, the north side of tulsa is all black. It is to dangerous for whites to live there and even the police will tell you not to go through there after the sun goes down. So yes everybody is trying to make a big thing out of this and suggest that it maybe a white person doing this but if it was he would of been caught by now for he would of stood out BIG TIME and everybody would of seen him. You dont understand that part of town, i have lived in tulsa for 30 years and i do not go to that part of town for no reason and yes i am white.

Look at all the racists, once again, arguing as hard as they can that this isn't somehow racist.

Some clues are so obvious that you just have to be in denial.

I read all the comments up to this point, and one thing I didn't read was, why were these people shot in yards? The article doesn't say "their" yards. At 1am, what are these people doing in other peoples yards. It sounds like a vigilante taking matters in their own hands. Cleaning up the neighborhood.

Of course African Americans in Tulsa are fearful of racially motivated hate crimes. Tulsa has a sordid past when it comes to race and crime. The infamous Tulsa race riots occurred in early summer 1921. One of the wealthiest black communities in the United States was burned to the ground. The perpetrators were roving mobs of white males, armed and filled with hate. The city of Tulsa and the state of Oklahoma were slow to react and the riots became a multiple day holocaust of death and destruction. Like all holocausts, the survivors and kin of survivors do not forget hence the fear that is now in place in Tulsa. There is mad man on the loose in Tulsa and a race riot may be exactly what he is shooting for. Racial hate is an ugly meme and it has replicated itself from 1921 to 2012 with no end in sight.

I don't think Rev. Sharpton will show up until after the shooting stops. Better to be safe than sorry.

Hey Derek, if there is any clue here that is "obvious", it would suggest the most likely scenario statistically...black on black gang activity. The only reason this is "racist" is that that's the way the reactionary media pukes wrote it. And how do you define "racist".....anybody who doesn't agree with your supercilious outlook?

I guess NBC never learns. They need to stop the pick and choose.

Why are they not fair? This made their headlines and yet they completely ignore the awful hate crime committed in Baltimore? Why isn't Al "Racist" Sharpton in Baltimore fighting for this innocent man's civil rights?

Jo Ann-666954

I think you are on to something there. With all the false journalism and slanted views for profit, why isn't the media held responsible for inciting violence and what could easily turn into riots?

Doncha just love how the whimpering conservatives twist this story? The suspect is a white male, and the suspect has committed multiple murders, and the news was reported fairly - MSNBC even omitted the part about the race of the suspect. But here come the rightwing loonies claiming that the shootings are not racist, but the accurate reporting of the news is racist. In other words, they want to convince people that the "lamestream media" is somehow distorting this story just by reporting it truthfully, while they are the ones guilty of distortion. Typical wacko neocons.

The assailant(s) remain un-identified and un-described. Clairevoyance asside, we don't know who he/they are nor what they look like. I will admit the unlikelyhood of some one recently landed from another planet having done it.

@Brandoj

Do you not clearly see the difference of gang related shootings and this?

At this time, it can't be ruled out that this is a gang-related shooting-- and that's not to say that the victims were involved in a gang. The ages of the victims identified seem to indicate that that is not likely. But that doesn't mean that the shooter isn't gang affiliated or motivated by gang mentality. Remember that there is a very heated rivalry between Latino and black gangs, and there are a number of racist white gangs as well (think: Aryan Brotherhood skinheads). And then of course, it may not be race-related at all and the shooter may very well be a black gang banger shooting people at random to earn points with his crew-- this happened in LA in the early and mid 90's where a gang (and I apologize, I can't remember which one) would drive around at night with their headlights off. The first car that flashed them, the common road courtesy to let you know your lights are off, was shot to pieces. This obviously isn't a direct parallel to that, but just goes to show that random, senseless killings are an embedded part of the gang culture. In any case, I hope they find the person (or persons) involved quickly and efficiently and rather swiftly introduce them to the American Justice system-- or better yet, a police officer's .40 caliber bullet.

It is not uncommon for a man of the "cloth" to refer to people in his community as "my people."

Who is race baiting here? This particular article coming from MSNBC never mentions that the shooter is white. It merely questions whether blacks are being targeted - which on the face of it, it would seem so.

It seems to me that it is the commentators on both sides of the issue that are doing all the race baiting.

john-737278 (post 1.44) muses that we shouldn't try to legislate equality. I know a lot here agree with him, but john, you need to read the country's founding documents, then request that the government revoke your citizenship.

JimD-406742

I am actually surprised it took this long to get crap. I have read the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution many, many times.

And if you re-read what I wrote, which I believe was thought provoking and eloquent, you might notice that I never wrote that we should not try to legislate equality, only brought into the discussion that it simply doesn't seem to be working.

And by the way, who are you to judge me about whether I deserve to be a citizen? It is open minds that make changes for the better. And if you see something that is not working, it is a citizens obligation to bring it to peoples attention. Otherwise nothing will change.

Article has updated:

"Officer Jason Willingham said Saturday that police were searching for a white man driving a white pickup, which was spotted in the area of three of the shootings."

Looks like this may very well be a racially motivated hate crime.

WMG-21

I noticed that. The problem that I have is that even if it was a hate crime, It would be small group and not a representation of the larger white population. Even though it would most likely be perceived that way.

Or, it could be reverse profiling. Now that would be an interesting twist, if the people they are searching for had nothing to do with it.

I think at this point no one knows, but sure are willing to draw conclusions.

This is a serial killer plain and simple. His target is black people. Looking at the times they found the bodies or the reports that came in I would say this person is full of hate on that specific night and day. The officials stated in the article "Officer Jason Willingham said Saturday that police were searching for a white man driving a white pickup, which was spotted in the area of three of the shootings" Which to me sounds as if the people in the community are grasping at straws to point a finger. I would hope that they have some bullets for ballistics evidence or some other way to get a lead other than speculation. If you are black and live in this community I would be cautious but don't blind yourself to all the possibilities because the evidence so far isn't available.

If the press doesnt keep things like this in the forefront, people are going to start talking about high gas prices again, which is the last thing Obama wants them talking about.

We heal one at a time and spread a new attitude with our own actions.

http://www.helium.com/items/2298996-poetry-black-white

the color the skin of those shot or of the shooter shouldnt matter 1 bit unless the shooter himself claims he did it bc he is racist if they do catch him. this rev. is a wack job to go to that right away. the area is mostly black people; so there is a higher % for them to be targeted sadly.

people really need to drop this race crap that everyone still plays out today. its old and its in the past. there is a black president; he didnt win just from black votes but from every race. yes, there will always be racist ON ALL SIDES; but by always bringing race up just splits our country and spreads the belief of hate. it spoils the mind of the young and then they grow up being racist themselves.

sometimes things do happen for other reasons then the color of your skin... like just bad luck. i mean no disrespect to anyone but its just tiresome that we still have to deal with such BS in america. wish the country would just unite again like it did on 9/11.

Why are people denying that this could potentially be an act of white supremacy??

Officer Jason Willingham said police were searching for a white man driving a white pickup, which was spotted in the area of three of the shootings.

The plot has been set, It is Billy Bob the Redneck in his white pick-up or maybe a white Hispanic driving a white Chavy peecup.

siz me,

Well the GOP?Teaparty crowd has been stirring up Race problems for the last 3 plus years and you all wonder why people jump to conclusions of white on black violence, Heads in the Sand Much?

Where is your proof on you claim, I noticed you didn't post a link to any such storey. Here is the truth and I don't have to post the link because there has been a few storeys by MSNBC, the Martin case and this case. It is clear that MSNBC, the black leaders, the racist NAACP, and the left. In both cases there has not been any proof of racism, but MSNBC and all others want to mack anything into racism and that is very clear; in fact in the Martin case there is only one witness and he said that Martin was attacking Zimmerman. Plus Zimmerman is not white at all, but all those on the left don't seem to care about that they want to make it into race. Just like this case there are only a few witnesses, but they all say the were no racial slurs made; so what makes the left jump to these conclusions and disregard facts. It is clear that they are doing this because it helps Obama in his re-election bid. So your claim that it is the right that is doing this is false. MSNBC is a sickening news organization that only gives propaganda fill storeys, with a rush to judgement every time before the facts are even in. Even the president made a statement and a rush to judgement, just like he did when the cops arrested the black professor that was Obama's friend and Obama said the cops were stupid. There is a good leader right one that gets only part of a story and that draws his own conclusions; kidda like he is with regards to the constitution and his over stepping as well going around congress. He does not support our constitution therefor he does not support America. Before you jump to conclusion I am an Independent, I see the writing on the wall with Obama though. You Libs say that Bush spent to much in 8 years and he spent $4.5 that was real bad as far as I am concerned, but than you have Obama spending $5.2 trillion in just three years. All of you have to know that we can't spend like this. America is going to be no longer America if we re-elect Obama. Once he is a lame duck president he will just try and put all of his radical idea's in place and America will have another great depression for real, no power no fuel, no water people will freak out when that happens. If you think it can't happen again you are nevi, as history will repeat itself. Though the bum(obama) out office before he destroys America. Also MSNBC should be brought up on charges anyone that has been a part of the two storeys for in sighting racial violence, as should Spike Lee for tweeting what he thought was Zimmerman's address. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/29/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-injured-idUS349636126520120329

At this point anyone would be better suited for the White House than Obama. Any of the would at least follow the constitution.

To JS in SD

Regarding your post 1.21........it has always been "us versus them" in this country and most likely always will be. What good does it do to stick one's head in the sand about it? Considering the fact that all the victims are black, I find nothing inappropriate about the reverend's choice of words. Different strokes for different folks, as the saying goes. I saw an elderly white woman on a local newscast recently replying to a question about the state of race relations in the Sanford, FL area. Her response was that, in her opinion, there isn't an issue. She has a right to her opinion and so does Rev. Blakney. Black people ARE his people. What's the problem?

Tek,

Why are people denying that this could potentially be an act of white supremacy??

Well because there are just no facts to support that claim, most intelligent people wait until all of the facts are in before they make an opinion regarding such issues. I know you just like the president and MSNBC would like to make everything about White Supremacy, even when no facts support it. Just like in the Zimmerman case they say it is a white on black crime, when in fact Zimmerman is mexican.

Just like this morning we see that there is a storey that say both of the men are white when in fact on is clearly of asian desent. Leave it to MSNBC to make it a white on black crime again.

What about the black on white crimes why don't we get to charge them with hate crimes, I think these double standards are BS. If they can have all black schools we should be able to have all white schools without being called a racist because the all black schools are not called racist schools another double standard.

Very true indeed, I' am sure we will see very soon the statistic card to help trolls sleep at night warmly. This is vicious no matter what race this happens to, or who did it.

You mean mass murderer. There is a difference.

They surely are William Sanders. May all of the survivors recover and I sincerely hope the police finds the perpetrators quickly. Great to see someone express empathy and show some compassion.

God bless you, Wm Sanders.

I'm from Tulsa. There were some hate crimes recently in tulsa against white women where a black man beat and robbed them and a similar feature was him calling them "White Bitches" Could possibly be backlash against a hate crime committed by a black man on whites. But also, lets not be too quick to blame this as a hate crime either as we don't know the race or motive of the shooter(s)

Article said, "shooter targeting 'blacks' in a Tulsa 'black' neighborhood,"....... DUH

This is Terrorism against the people of Tulsa. Lets up hope they find the scum who is doing this and end it. Sad day for the community.

According to the NRA "an armed society will help prevent crime." When is that suppose to kick in? I am waiting.

When you shoot back !

@ grumpy:

According to the NRA "an armed society will help prevent crime." When is that suppose to kick in? I am waiting.

* Based on survey data from the U.S. Department of Justice, roughly 5,340,000 violent crimes were committed in the United States during 2008. These include simple/aggravated assaults, robberies, sexual assaults, rapes, and murders.[13] [14] [15] Of these, about 436,000 or 8% were committed by offenders visibly armed with a gun.[16]

* Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18]

* A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 3.5% of households had members who had used a gun "for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 1,029,615 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."[19]

* A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.[20]

* A 1982 survey of male felons in 11 state prisons dispersed across the U.S. found:[21]

• 34% had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"

• 40% had decided not to commit a crime because they "knew or believed that the victim was carrying a gun"

• 69% personally knew other criminals who had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"[22]

(Taken from: http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp)

It's already happening, you're just not paying attention.
For example, FBI crime statistics show that violent crime has been steadily decreasing since the early 90's, with 2009 having the lowest per-capita murder rate in 45 years-- and it was even lower in 2010. In the same time frame, firearms sales have been increasing steadily. A correlation exists, if not necessarily a causation.
With respect to the numbers above, please note that violent crimes committed with firearms occur 436,000 times per year or around 8%, while defensive use of firearms to stop, prevent or deter a crime occurs anywhere between 989,883 to 1,029,615 times each year-- that's more than double. So yes, firearms in the hands of a responsible, law-abiding citizen can and does have a positive impact on our crime level.

You may also want to explore this:

Gun Town, USA: Kennesaw, GA, where it is the law to own a firearm.

The key point: "25 years murder-free" and "The crime rate initially plummeted for several years after the passage of the ordinance, with the 2005 per capita crime rate actually significantly lower than it was in 1981, the year before passage of the law."

Eyewitness accounts reveal this guy is a white guy and I personally think this may qualify as a hate crime UNLESS this shooter starts shooting white people too. Whatever, he is a callous murderer and he NEEDS to be stopped NOW! My heart goes out to the families of the victims and I wish a speedy recovery to the injured ones. I hope they catch this guy and rid our society of such a psychopath very quickly!! There are sick psychopaths of every race, color, and creed and murder is wrong, no matter the color of the skin of the shooter or the victim!! I sure as hell hope this craziness is not a RESULT of the great racial divide the Trayvon Martin case has stirred up. Why can't we all just get along and put aside the prejudices... the world would be a lot more pleasant place to live!

Fortunately, "white crackers" your term, had a lot of help in building this country and in defending this country. That help came from blacks, asians and hispanics. Of course it's hard to admit it though.

Closer to spree killing than serial murder, but still worrying. Especially considering the racial aspect.

No such thing as a post-racial America.

We need to care about people regardless of color. "Just sick of it", you need help. I don't even understand what you are trying to say.

Love it more!! ( I live to love the hypocracy on these threads...)

By accounts of some on here; the REAL problem is black on black crime.

By accounts of some here;

According to the NRA "an armed society will help prevent crime."

Soooooooooo is the plan to give all people, even black people and other minorities free and easy access to guns so they can protect themselves?? HUH?? "A GUN FOR EVERY AMERICAN HOUSEHOLD" is the cry now???? I don't think that is REALLY what you want.....

I think you want the privileged to have the guns.....

I think you want "Stand Your Ground" laws and "Castle Doctrines" so that the privileged and obviously frightened can exact some type of bitter, dare I say, hate filled revenge on what they see as a threat and a nuisance to their existence...

I didn't know you were that weak and scared, but I do now.......

Sad, twisted morality we have here in the good ole' U.S.A........

What are you talking about Unbelievable? Any Tom, Dick and Harry without a criminal background can buy a gun in this country-- it's called the 2nd amendment and it protects all Americans, not just "the privileged."

This is rather similar to the DC snipers. As to those who didn't read the article, it stated that a white man in a white pickup was seen in the area in three of the attacks which is why the police are looking for a white male in a white pickup.

Now, this is something I was afraid was going to happen with all the media attention on Trayvon. Too much racial bias, too many out there stirring the pot of racism and if a pot is kept simmering it will boil over. I have been asking for cooler heads and reason to be used in place of the non-stop media barrage and, of course, that's not going to happen. I hope I am wrong here, I really, really hope I am wrong. I hope this is an isolated nutcase and not some 'bubba' looking to get even for all the Black Panther trash talk.

Obama needs to come out and talk about racial divisevness, there needs to be some rational appeal to calm and common sense.

What are you implying Uncle Ben... that these "black" people were walking in other people's yards and they were "suspicious" according to some looney who shot a bunch of folks in a killing spree??? I spy racial overtones...

Blacks never target Whites just because they're White.

Shandril,

Do you REALLY believe that? If so, you don't understand that racism goes both ways, do you??? You should NEVER use the word NEVER!

Brian B. Good lord. The accident of birth that makes us whatever color skin we are does not put us on a "team." The rules of life are not "members of my team were hurt by members of your team, so members of my team gets to hurt yours." People have been shot and killed. Apparently, by someone with your warped point of view!

where r the morals, you obviously don't have any morals at all since you choose to blame President Obama for this. You must be crazy too.

Jeff from Chicago, you Obama haters never cease to amaze us sane people with your dribble.

Mygirl1, no one can stir the pot if the pot has nothing is in it. The hatred and racism has always been a part of America and if we don't work together America will pay dearly for it.

mygirl..Obama does not need to talk about race issues .. why wont the GOP/TP talk about race issues .. it is the GOP/TP that want race issues as a topic .. but they are to cowardly to sat what is on their minds .. they would rather have the president say something ..so they can .. twist it .. spin it ... turn it into something to use against him

We heal one at a time and spread a new attitude with our own actions.

http://www.helium.com/items/2298996-poetry-black-white

I guess Laura doesn't understand that the government does NOT create jobs. The government can only help provide an atmosphere (laws on businesses, tax reform, etc) where business can can have confidence to expand. And since the Republicans have controlled congress for the recent past, it is them creating the atmosphere. No president has much to do with it. Better learn a little about both government and economics.

Racism and easy access to GUNS.....God bless America !!

Four or five years ago,my son visited us in Hawaii just before New Years Eve, and he brought with him,his girlfriend from Europe. Fireworks are ONLY legal in Hawaii on New Years Eve,*....that's it !

They had a lot of fun setting them off....and a week later she asked him if they could buy more fireworks,but David explained that you could only get them for New Years Eve. The girl was distressed and perplexed, and stated : "Strange country, fireworks only for New Years Eve, BUT you can buy GUNS all year long !

* 30% of ALL the fires on Maui that year,occurred on New Years Eve..........

why are people so closed to the possiblity that this could be an act of racism/white supremacy?

i dont get it... now blacks are targeted.??? a murderer doesnt care what color you are. black, white, red, brown. he just shoots.!! i cant believe blacks think they are always targeted because of color. they also thought durning the altlanta murders years ago it was whites killing there kids. and behold it was a black man.!!! just because there is a black president ... i have never heard of so much crap.!!!!

These shooting are a direct result of NBC doctoring the Zimmerman 911 tapes and inflaming race relations, they should be held libel for their actions.

Tek,

Nobody is discounting it, but before they updated the story saying the man in question was white guy, they just sort of alluded to it being racially motivated before knowing who the cops were looking for. Now that they have disclosed the suspect is a white guy in a white pickup, it very well could be a payback shooting. I am not looking forward to when the economy really does go into toilet.

Shandril,

That has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

Wow, if you compare those statistics to Mexican statistics and then mention that Mexico outlaws firearms, you can see that our 2nd amendment is a precious thing and we should embrace it.

This is what happens when you give morons power or in this case power tools in terms of the talking heads in the media. No news , or worse bad news for your "regime boy" be it GWB or BO, and you help create it. This is terrible, the media fans the flames of racism as a distraction, and the dlites laugh their asses off while they take more of your money. Divide and conquer is the name of the game, just the more easier to rip you off economically in the end. White and blacks will be at each others throats while the 1% get richer.

You all are acting as people going on "c00n hunting" sprees didn't just happen like last year.

"The Flint Michigan Serial Killer" - a white Asheknazi who exclusively targeted blacks and Latinos before dipping off to Israel.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/12/AR2010081206870.html

Its amazing how little empathy white people have for people of color, especially black people, that even when we're being terrorized it is somehow our fault. And that is the vibe I'm getting from upwards of 80% of the commenters on here (most who I assume are white).

Grumpy Old McCain "According to the NRA "an armed society will help prevent crime." When is that suppose to kick in? I am waiting."

It already has - You're just not paying attention. The States with the most legal gun ownership have the lowest crime rates.

Criminals love the states where only THEY have a gun.

No Not for sale

These shootings are a direct result of an insane murdering @!$%# who had a gun thinking he had some license to use it. You claiming it was because of NBC doing what ever they did to the tape has nothing to do with it. Is it your wish to justify an insane murdering @!$%# shooting people with his gun? If so, you need to ask yourself what is wrong with your thinking. It sounds like instagating and trouble making on your part.

Article here is old because who they believe the same killed 2 African- Americans in Kansas not to long ago. White male in a black or dark colored truck is the description of the suspect.

Roy Wilson, that is so untrue...don't get your stats from the NRA!

I see the hatred everyday, as I am a lesbian, people need to except people for who they are, NOT what you think they are...

I wouldn't dare to drive in that section of Tulsa, being white at early morning.

The serial killer dehumanizes his victims in the same way. What does that say about you? The Beast is within us all. What brings it out is all a matter of circumstance. Anyone who is willing to dehumanize anyone under any circumstances is dangerous, in my opinion. That includes you.

Just another example of why ALL law abiding citizens should be trained to use and always carry a handgun. I never even go out in my yard unarmed. If normal citizens started fighting back and killing all of these wastes of oxygen, sooner or later they would get the message.

Did anyone stop to think this may have had nothing at all to do with race? It just happened that they were out and that's who got shot.

Ban handguns.

The blacks killing blacks is ironic to me. Their ancestors fought for freedom ( their masters could kill them) and then civil rights (whites lynching and killing them and not prosecuted) and who knew we could just set back and wait and they start killing each other by the thousands. Not very intelligent,indeed.

I imagine that the rest of the animal kingdom sit back in amazement at the hate and anger that lives in the human heart. No, more guns are not the answer.

Where are the NRA trolls on this one?

Everyone get ready for a mainstream media bliss. Starting 3 days ago and since the media has openly stated a white man has done something wrong to a black man in their news report. But everyone knows that the media never says the skin color of a black man doing something bad to a white man or woman. The media is on a continuing brain washing tour of impressionable minds. Over in Fort Collins Colorado 4 black foot ball players chased down some ST Patrick day partiers and assaulted them but the partiers had knives to protect themselves. The media said nothing about the partiers being white just that the football players were cut up in the scuffle by unidentified partiers. But that same news station gladly tells the color of oklahomas unidentified shooter. This type of biased coverage is going to be all over the mainstream news like never before because they are trying to cover up the blantant irresponsible news coverage of george zimmerman.

WMG,

I couldn't help but notice an example you gave for guns preventing crime was "The key point: "25 years murder-free" in a small Georgia town. If that is true then eleven of those years a Democrat was in office. I guess that dispels the NRA diatribe that Democrats will get your guns.

Your other statistics were so jumbled up they made little if no sense.

mark-2347393

Everyone get ready for a mainstream media bliss. Starting 3 days ago and since the media has openly stated a white man has done something wrong to a black man in their news report. But everyone knows that the media never says the skin color of a black man doing something bad to a white man or woman. The media is on a continuing brain washing tour of impressionable minds. Over in Fort Collins Colorado 4 black foot ball players chased down some ST Patrick day partiers and assaulted them but the partiers had knives to protect themselves. The media said nothing about the partiers being white just that the football players were cut up in the scuffle by unidentified partiers. But that same news station gladly tells the color of oklahomas unidentified shooter. This type of biased coverage is going to be all over the mainstream news like never before because they are trying to cover up the blantant irresponsible news coverage of george zimmerman.

So, Pal, with this story of black football players, you're trying to say that whites being harassed, by blacks (if the were) is as significant as murders of blacks?

And, before Zimmerman shot an unarmed kid, the right hated Latinos. Is that the pecking order--white, Latino, black? Where the Native Americans, Asian Americans and the Neo-Nazis fit in this pecking order that exists only inside the mind of a person filled with hate?

Wow.... this makes my heart sad to see so many people fighting about race, and what is right and what is wrong.... The fact is that some people were killed and we need to focus our energy on the families left behind. Quit with this hate everyone. YOU are racism.

Being both black and white, I hope that one day people realize what really matters. My black family loves to hate and my white family loves to hate..... STOP, I am both of you and it hurts me every time to see this kind of talk. Nobody is better, nobody is superior.

I am praying for those that were affected by the shootings. I would hope you can put down your rocks long enough to remember that God made everyone of us. I celebrate the beautiful kaleidescope of our skin colors.

**Mixed Girl** That's the way,in a perfect world,it would be.Wake up lady,this is America,this is "the world" we live in.So guess what! Blacks are here,ancestors were transported here,and this is Home! All have the human right to live here without being restricted and living in fear.Some seem to feel that they themselves are "special" and seek to squelch the comfort of others.This mindset leads to chaos.We should realize that no one is better than anyone else.But will we/they ever learn that we can truly accomplish this!

The American citizen will kill thugs, pimps,dope slingers and savage hoodrats and it's about time. If the police won't do their job then we will. God bless the second amendment. Locked and loaded. You want my gun? I wish you would try to take it from me. My trigger finger getting real itchy.

Filthy knee grows. Go back to Apefrica and knuckledrag all you want America does not need you. All you are is a drain on society you add nothing you onlt take. Gibs me dis, and gibs me dat.

Filthy knee grows. Go back to Apefrica and knuckledrag all you want America does not need you. All you are is a drain on society you add nothing you onlt take. Gibs me dis, and gibs me dat.

lol. Reverting back to the neanderthal in you huh?

Blacks never target Whites just because they're White.

and they never target women, children and old people because they're female, young or old

....they just want to rob and steal from the weakest, most convenient victim they think cannot fight back

I was wondering what kind of violence would be happening in Oklahoma. I didn't realize Tulsa had a gang problem, but then again I know they are everywhere. Must be getting a whole lot worse.

Beleive it or not, Anchorage, AK is one of the top 10 towns for black gang activity, no kidding!

To say that Tulsa is a "rough town" is inaccurate. There are a lot of great people living here. It seems that you are condemning the entire city for the acts of one possibly two persons. This is a tragedy and people are concerned and on edge. Please pray for the families who have lost loved ones and for the two people who are in the hospital recovering.

Hey Tony, are you some kind of an idiot or something??? Does it seem plausable to you that 5 victims aged between early thirties and mid fifties with zero connection to each other - does that sound like a "gang connection"??? What kind of gang would that be? The AARP Bloods??? If they had been all been in their teens or earlier twenties within a couple years of age from each other, then I might understand the assumption but what you just said there is ass-enine if you catch my drift.

Even the head of the police is saying he has never seen so many shootings in such a short period of time in that area. And totally random and unconnected other than the color of their skin. Sometimes, the real answer is the one staring at you in the face.

Now before every white person goes around screaming "why us"...no one is saying the killer is white. Who the bleep knows, it could be any race, hispanic/asian/hell it could even be a black murder for all we know. No one is making assumptions to the race of the killer - but its totally stupid and delusional to deny the simple fact that black people were clearly being targeted here by what appears to be a pattern murderer. I don't know if 5 shootings constitutes a serial killer - I have no idea what the threshold is. But someone is on a rampage and needs to be caught ASAP.

So why don't we focus on that and have some sympathy for the victims rather than the usual automatic paranoia defensive attitude every time something bad happens to a black person even when clearly something is strange is going on.

gang related would be young victims or robberies. this was average Americans walking the street who were asked for directions, then shot. SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some survivor said it was a white male in a pick up truck, but I guess mentioning that would be the race card quote unquote

There can't be older gang members?? Does anyone know of an age limit for this?? What does happen to teens that are gang members when they hit there 20's, 30's, 40's??? Do they suddenly have an epithany and change to solid citzens?? GAng members ofen have a short lifespan but not all get killed from gang violence. I have watched shows on hispanic gang member and even though they are in their 40"s and 50's they are stil active members who control the groups. Wouldn't it be the same for all types of gangs??

Some have stated that survivors claim to have seen a white male in a white truck. Would that be a white hispanic, white asian, white black, white indian etc..??? IF it was a white person they certainly would have to be seriously nuts to go into a black neighborhood and start killing blacks. If caught he would likely never make it to jail alive. To those who even think it's ok to drag Zimmerman into this story are slightly nuts too. That case has nothing to do with this one. What are we to blame all societys' ills on George zimmerman now??? Wow that sure is giving him one hell of a lot of power that he really doesn't have or ever wanted.

skrewdworld, whites have always gone in black neighborhoods to buy drugs and sex.

Zimmerman does have the power. He has a dad who's a judge.

Yes, it could be gang related if someone is trying to prove his "worth." It appears that most of these people were shot before daylight--it could have been someone just driving around shooting. We don't know if it is gang-related, or some white person who plans to scrape his knuckles and bang his head and claim "self-defense" or what.

I don't know that I would be concerned if I were a black person living in the nicest part of Tulsa (and, yes, there are some very wealthy areas with a fair concentration of African Americans in Tulsa), but I'd be concerned if I were in the same kind of neighborhood these people are. I'd worry about the neighborhoods at this point, not the race.

But, yes, there are some nutcases in the Tulsa area and throughout Oklahoma, just as there are anywhere--someone could have come in from the Little Dixie area and just started shooting random black people because of . . . oh, whatever. People like that don't need a rational reason. I'm glad they are looking for the shooter--and I hope they find him (well, probably "him") quickly.

3 or more murders constitutes a serial killer.

What is it with all you jerko**s talking trash about the white folk. If anyone has reason to hate a race it would be me!!! I've had my house broken into (BTW I was one of thoes stats quotes by WMG 21) who used my gun to protect my family... Then after the police investigated fully the local chapter of the NAACP started trying to pressure the police to arrest me, eventhough it was more then obvious that I was justified in what I did.. Namely dude was in my home, and obviously he was trying to rob my home AND he also had a gun of his own.. However the local NAACP out where I live tried like he** to call it racially motivated.. After looking really stupid they eventually backed off, but only after I was forced to move after having local thugs throw various things including human crap and rocks as well as several different love letters telling what the local thugs would like to do to my family. Did this black version of the KKK apologise to me, or make a public statement saying they were wrong.. NO!!! However do I hold all black people in contempt for that.. NO!!! Call me a craker go ahead.. Just remember that this shooting spree was committed by persons unknown.. I'm sick of the whole race issue. ALL RACIST TRASH CAN KISS MY A$$ NO MATTER WHAT SIDE OF THE COLOR SPECTRUM YOUR SKIN COLOR IS!!!!

I am sure it wasn't racism. The victims must have been wearing hoodies.

Pixie, 3 or more murders does not make someone a serial killer, they can also be a spree killer. Serial killers normally kill over a period of time not one night. Serial killers target certain individuals for specific reasons and kill in a more personal way. Spree killers may target particular people but normally it is just random and short lived. I went to school with a spree killer who is on trial for killing 8 people in Illinois about 4 or 5 years ago.

Either way, this person was probably white since the survivours/ witnesses said he was, and it was probably racism that drove him to it. But the more we talk about racism and make a big deal about it all we are doing is adding fuel to the fire. Whether you are racist or not the fact remains that we have a lot of ignorant people in this country and they will do ignorant things, like Forest Gump said " stupid is as stupid does" When we educate people properly they tend not to be racist. Pride in your nationality is great and should be encouraged but we should also teach to appreciate others nationalities and race. We can all learn a lot from each other.

When we educate people properly they tend not to be racist.

This is possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

J Phillipe Rustion, Charles Murray, David Duke???

I didn't say it works with everyone, 3 people are not a majority, plus look at the times when those people grew up 1950's and 60's, pretty racist times. How many college grads do you know that are racist enough to kill another because of their color?

I didn't say it works with everyone, 3 people are not a majority, plus look at the times when those people grew up 1950's and 60's, pretty racist times. How many college grads do you know that are racist enough to kill another because of their color?

I don't know, but I do know college grads who are "racist enough" to deny people of color jobs, loans, dignity, etc -- or at least as much as they can within the bounds of the law, which is supported by numerous studies. Isn't that enough? Mostly validated by the comments on this newsboard today. I don't think these folks commenting are Jim-Bob living in their grandmothers basement. The demographic of people reading the news I'd assume are at least people with a high school education, and savvy enough to access and browse websites.

Tek , I see this every day. It makes me sick. They think it's funny and they feel privileged when the black guy with the MBA and three years experience gets passed over.
I also see Karma as when they are the ones being discriminated against (they hired a Yankee from Harvard rather than Bubba from Auburn), they pitch a fit.

Did they find any LIL SKITTLES at the crime scene?

the rooster came first, lol

As a European Born Woman I am appalled at the violence in this country, and especially against African American men and women. It is a total discrase to see and hear this happening every day. What has gone wrong with American Society in the past 20 years and especially the Trovan in Florida and now Oklahome, something has to happen soon or we will be noted for the loonies of the world. Pray for Peace for everybody.

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Did you not read the part where people described the possible shooter as a white male?

Go back to Europe then hon and face the Muslims. Tocqueville called us a nation of killers and that is what we are. Blacks are victims of their own making 95-99% of the time, and interracial crime is 8-1 against whites, so why are you boo hooing about. These same stats are very similar in regards to Europe and the Muslims and S Saharan African population that has made a foothold in places like Sweden and Finland. Finnish girls get gang raped in Helsinki and the PC crowd doesn't bat an eye.

I,m sure the police have ruled out the gang related aspect as it is standard procedure to pull criminal records of a murder victim for posible clues. If the past history is clear ask witnesses, and in this case and I'm sure more than one stated a white male in a white truck.

As for the chicken or the egg, it was the egg, it fell from the sky and landed in an Easter Basket.

Nah -

It HAD to the chicken. Otherwise, what the hell laid the egg?

Read the article. They were asked. They described a white man in a white pick up truck.

@Wants to Know

The article says the police were looking for a white male in a white truck, It says nothing about the survivors having said this. My guess is witnesses in the area after the shootings occured gave this info.

You are doing a disservice to sharks. They live in the water, we don't.

You are doing a disservice to sharks. They live in the water, we don't.

I'll just assume that MOST people will have gotten my point.

Sharks only attack for food & humans only when mistaken for other fish. It's THEIR habitat & doing what sharks do.

im a white guy yea id say they are a disgrace to the white race and the human race feed them to the sharks damn bigots grrrrrrrrrrr

Hey Ron,

The day will come when you are confronted with the possibility of losing your life at the hands of a thug. Will you feel the same way about guns then? When you outlaw guns, then only outlaws will own them and we will all be defenseless.

i just hope is found and arrested regardless of the color,

Guns create problems just like a kitchen fork creates fat people.

Look back a few years to 9-11 and witness that most of the people running from the falling towers in NYC were covered in gray dust to the point that you could not tell if they were white, black blue, orange. They
were referred to by the media as citizens. I am white; one of my best friends is black. During high school we hung out together, played football together, raised hell together, we even doubled dated. This was in the late 60's early 70's and I was looked down on by a lot of folks in our small town because I hung out with "those colored kids". Those colored kids have become lifelong friends I can call on at any time for anything. I call his parents mom and dad. (my parents passed several years ago) My WHITE kids refer to him as their uncle his sister is their aunt. His kids call me Uncle. My grand-kids refer to him as their uncle and we love each other just as if we were family. It is not the color of a person’s skin that defines them it is their actions. The sooner that ALL PEOPLE stop this race crap and learn to judge a person by their actions and not their color, the sooner we can get along with each other. There is white trash, there is black trash there is trash in every color. There are thugs in every walk of life. It is the persons internal qualities that make them, not the stereo type attached to them.

I will climb off my soap box and wait for the hate mail that is sure to come from this. But I will accept it and life will go on. Put an "X" on your calender one month from today and when that day comes around as you look at that "X" ask yourself what it was for. Chances are that you will not remember.

I agree with you. I'm white with black and mixed family. I look at them with love not color.

The day will come when you are confronted with the possibility of losing your life at the hands of a thug.

Really? That is strange because I live in a fairly large city and I have never had a weapon of any kind used to threaten me. Hell I don't even know anyone who has. So what you are saying is it just hasn't happened yet? Lay off the Road Warrior movies.

I think you must live a paranoid life and have some post apocolyptic fantasy where everyone is out to kill, rob, or rape you. I feel sorry for you because living a life like that must be very tiresome and living a life of fear is not living a life at all.

AirThief I own and have used several weapons in my life. I Don't live in a large city but have had to at least show them on several occassions. Once during a home breakin while the thug tries to rob us after I gotten home from surgery. He was met at the front door by my 12ga. He quickly left after me racking a round into the chamber. I did not have to fire a shot.

You may never need a weapon but I have the right to protect me and my family. It is called the 2AM. I could use my car or truck but it takes alot and a weapon is easier and concealable.

Ron, outlawing guns won't make you any safer. Outlawing booze during Prohibition didn't stop people from drinking, just created a black market. Outlawing drugs in 1908 didn't stop cocaine and heroin selling or using either. People who want something will find ways to get it. People who are criminals(socio or psychopaths) don't give a @!$%# about laws, so they will always find a way to get a gun. The violence in this country makes th "Wild West" look tame, and everyone, including the ladies were packing.

I have many guns for recreational shooting and hunting. I have never shot anyone but have displayed them to ward off a possible attack. I am quite sure my wife and I would have been in dire straits if I had not been armed. These murders are a disgrace to humanity. The Florida shooting is still up for debate. The facts are not all in on that one. I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and @!$%# a better argument than most of what I read here.

Don't assume that it is Black on Black crime. You know what that makes you.

Vicky, his sentence "racism exists and black on black crime exists" is NOT a racist comment. What he is saying is that white on black, black on black, and black on white crimes exist. Don't LOOK for the dark side of every comment... it's not becoming.

But in that case, his comment is irrelevant since this was a white on black crime, according to the article.

Yes, it appears he DID have a problem with women....particularly educated women.

Or Oklahoma for that matter.

AirThief, I don't believe you know anything about Oklahoma. It is a fantastic state with lots of hard working honest people. I wish the people in my home state had as much integrity.

Taxed2death, you seem to enjoy the fact that blacks are killing blacks. I guess there is some irony there. It is also amazing that you refer to gang members as thugs - same word Rove used for the President.

This crap has been instigated and perputuated by the GOP. Period.

So gang members aren't thugs?? What do we call them then?? People who do bad things? Criminals, theives, drug dealers, rapists, murderers etc. Do tell what is the PC word of the day???

Why do people who are "not racists" always try to prove to us how bad black people are?

Jock, I thought I was the only person that noticed that. Good point.

Guess you missed the part in the article where the suspect was white...

My thoughts exactly...what a load of crap !!

Yowee,we're havin' fun now!

Uhuru12: I'm glad to see that you've used your last jail stint to educate your self.I just have one question. Do you know anywhere in the 'hood I can buy ammo with my EBT card?

lol....I think the other respondents just proved part of your point. pretty nice comment and definitely more thought out than - the comment about buying ammo in the hood with an EBT card.

You are absolutely correct in your statement. The whites that find it absurd, sensless, stupid, without merrit, etc etc etc, are the ones who think slavery wasnt all that bad, that the killing of Emmit Till wasnt all that bad, the beating of Rodney King (I will say I think he needed to be subduded but not get his ass whipped) was justified, that racism doesnt really exist, that we should just get over it, that most blacks are "HOOD"lums who only eat fried chicken, that were all on welfare with no education, etc etc etc. These are the people who disgust me. And in my own defense, there are blacks who are mirror images of these people, who are lazy, shiftless, thieving, on welfare and not educated, who play the race card every chance they get. All this to say we are not all the same, I am a retired AF E9, have a Masters degree and will retire from the US govt again soon, at that point I will be leaving this country, never to return, because it is a cesspool of corruption and hatred, greed and envy, starting at the very top of the "food chain", I am so looking forward to the day I leave.

To @uhuru12: Dude, you need to edit your thoughts! I wanted to read your post, but it's just too friggin' long. I hope you made some good points and refrained from jumping on the bandwagon of making it a racist thing.....

Uhuru12-I'm so glad you can lump every single white person togeher with the statements you have made. You look at all whites as a whole and make judgements. Can you read the minds and hearts of every single white person alive, man, woman or child?? You are doing exactly what you are accusing whites of.

I live here in Tulsa. This Jack Henderson likes to shoot his mouth off every chance he can get. He says and does nothing when the black people kill their own in north Tulsa. The gang problem is bad and innocent kids and bystanders are being killed. He does nothing. Now that a "Maybe" white man in a white pickup did the shooting, he has made it to the national news. We had a horrible situation a year or so back where a black man was shot at 3 or so in the am at a chicken shack, and people stepped over him to get their chicken. Nobody gave up the shooter to the cops, and even got in the way of the EMSA and the cops. This Jack Henderson was nowhere and said nothing about this. North Tulsa keeps voting for this man and he does nothing for his district, and the community does noting to help the police, although they complain constantly. There are a few who really do try, but they are out numbered, and no, all of north Tulsa is not black. North is black and white and Hispanic. I have been in the elementary schools there as a volunteer.

Pigeon

You are absoultly correct. I remember the incedent. Why I moved from there.

Here we go again! The race card is getting real old! They don't even know who the shooter is and they are calling it racially motivated! The news media needs these type of stories so they can boost their ratings. The naacp and these leaders need these headlines to keep their faces in the spotlight! The preachers need these headlines to keep people in the pews!

I must be reading the wrong newspaper. Where I was born & raised ,(Miami), there were more killing sprees by backs then I can possibly remember. In the streets, on the job, in a hospital etc. A beautiful area to grow up in but won't even drive through there now & haven't for many years.

Steve, I wish you luck in finding that place. Regrettably, I don't know if a place like that exists. Even if you go to Europe you'll find that there's a lot of prejudice. Mostly against muslims and in some places against blacks. And it seems when economic times get tough people take out their frustrations against those who are different.

They will never acknowledge this truth which we all live with.

you "guess" ? Maybe we should wait and really see who the suspect is. BTW, that does not mean all white people are out to kill black people either.

Where do you get the idea that "they are looking for a white man"? In that area it is more likely to be a black person or a Native American that is responsible. However, I was not there so I will not speculate. Like the Zimmerman/Martin situation I will wait to see what the courts decide.

Because law enforcement knows more than the rest of us. They would not even bring up it being hate crime if they didn't know it was a white man.

I guess you must be a media (blank) culheath, if you don't understand

@culheath: It's not the report but the inclination concerning the report from a source that knows little more than we do.. OH! And I'm getting fed up with the trolls on this site who can't seem to help themselves for blaming Libs, Pubs, Dems or Obama for everything that OTHERS do.. What a crock.

the media (reporters) are the ones who 1st brought up the question of race, not the police.

Saul,

Thank you.

You do understand that the word "more" does not mean "exclusively"?

probably not as often as we are led to believe but when it happens it's blown all out of porportion so that it sounds non-stop & that only whites kill blacks but never the other way around. Just look at the people raving on & on about this one spree killing. I'm been reading true crime for many years & yes Virginia, there are serial killers who are black. Also white & Asian.

I'm pretty sure no one said "never the other way around." But, as I said earler, the skin you are born with doesn't put you on a team. So just because sometimes blacks kill whites does not make it O.K. for whites to mass murder blacks. Sheesh!!! The article is about a serial killer of African Americans. The fact that there may be situations where there have been serial killers of white folks really doesn't address what is happening HERE in THIS situation.

At least 1/64th white. That's all it takes to authorize accusations of racism.

Only people with a crack problem roam the streets that late.

Well, maybe, most of the time, but we have joggers out way early in the A.M. The age of these people suggest not gang related. I would tend to lean towards the shootings being the beginning of a group wanting to hold an entire community hostage, in their own homes. The survivors will have some details for the P.D and if it appears to be a hate drime it becomes federal.

Not everyone is on day shift and in bed at midnight. One victim was in his own yard, I guess he had no business being there, huh?

Okay so is not killing anyone a hate crime? There is always hate involved. "I hate the fact they have money and I don't. I hate the fact they have a job and I don't. I hate the fact that they have a house in the burbs and I don't." It isn't love that makes crime.

No RDog, these are all black neighborhoods in an all black area of town. Also it has already been reported that the suspect is a white man driving a white truck or van. He stops the truck to ask for directions and then shoots the victim. So it is race related.

the whole truth2, it's looking to be race related, but that's not 100% proven.

Why do people want this to be racially motivated?

rdog never heard of 2nd & third shifters. Easier to just spout some moronic drivel.

pagan, you forgot about the free tennis shoes, too....

I prefer hockey/soccer riots myself. There's nothing like getting drunk and stoned and smashing through a Starbuck's window with a fraternity bro who looks like Adam Levine every time my favorite sports franchise loses in the playoffs. The best ones, however, occur in Europe, where the sports hooligans are known for their rioting prowess. Which country is reigning random sports brawl champion this year? When's the World Cup, we can wait and decide then; maybe take a stadium or two out while we do so.

Who-hoo, pampered college white kid privilege rules!! See ya at the TKE mixer, broskis!

Well my favorite riot was the one in Canada after a Metallica/Guns n Roses concert. Although all those white college kids rioting after the nat'l championship a week ago was a valid attempt. Oh, how about Woodstock 99? That was a great one!

I was a teenager at Woodstock from start to finish & remember no rioting at all. Peace my Brother.

Why doesn't white people have their own Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton whenever you guys kill each other? You do it all the time. Of course you have Nancy Grace and a few whole cable networks that feature nothing but white-on-white crime all day, and that's good money there (you know, making the daily rundown of every single "It was a peaceful town except for Barney the local child molester/mass murdering Girl Scout troop leader. We never thought it could happen here" story read like "an isolated incident"), but seriously who cares when whites wipe out a few other whites, right? Do whites have an Al Sharpton for white crimes? Do yall care about white crimes anymore? Hey, stop molesting that little kid and listen a second, my pale-skinned friend.

Since whites are more likely to expericence a violent crime from someone they know - in a segregated society that means white on white crime - or someone who lives in their immediate comunity - again, white-on-white crime in a increasingly re-segregated American culture - then it really does make more sense to focus more on communities of color because thats what we've always done. And, hey, if we're arresting more blacks obviously that means they commit more crimes, so its all win/win. If ever there is a time when we arrest more whites than blacks then the system must be breaking down because we KNOW whites just don't ever commit crimes ever, not once. So lets focus on what works and what we can prove through arrest records and stop all this silly race baiting of innocent, beyond reproach gentle white folk.

Let's just hope for sanity's sake there is never, ever a time when the FBI or Census data shows the great majority of this nation's arrests are whites commiting crimes or the whole social contract will break down and we will have to deal with all the BS we've been smoking lo these many centuries. Quick, fabricate some data before someone gets wise...

Racist stereotypes: if they're good enough for great-grandpa, they're good enough for me!

"on edge for my people" - talk about racist remarks. The good ole double standard crap as always.

Nice.

Its probably a good thing blacks aren't 50% of the population; then 80 or 90% of the crime would be committed by blacks instead of the majority by whites.

cyuwithtb42, we white people dont worship racial hate speach like black people do. Plus were not a bunch of cry babies.

There are already instances of blacks targeting whites, now it may become more widespread because this shooter is white. Not sure what his motivation is, but it appears the victims were shot just for being outside at the time he drove by.

Yes, that would be the modus operandiof the right wing...call the reaction to racism as racist not unlike the right wing attempts to label liberals and socialists as fascists...never mind that fascism and communism were deadly enemies and the extreme right has more similarities to fascism than any socialist. Yes, with that pompous SOB...Limbaugh in the lead, the right wing is taking a page from George Orwell's 1984...Doublespeak...beware of Right Wing extremists bearing Thesaurus's.

you sound like a complete as-hole.

I have to admit people like this are less than animals and should be treated as such. I would be a little more hesitant in putting down a rabid dog than the type of people who commits these crimes. Give them their due process and one appeal then take them out back shoot them in the head and then use them to fertilize some crops. At least we would get some use out them.

the same as in The Majic City (Miami) except it's AK47's they're carrying in my old hometown. And each year it gets a little worse.

You have to go to the local affiliate to know they are looking for a white man for these crimes.

Right on, wasn't it bac in the '70s or early '80s that a black man was killing young blacks in Alanta Ga. ? What about D.C. sniper ? His targets were mostly black ?

Yup no racism here. VOTE Staight Dem and send a message that people who think like you are from the past not the future.

If they find out its a black man, you won't hear a word about it. Al Sharpton won't say a word. He can't get any camera time about blacks killing blacks.

Tom-Exactly correct. Going to keep up with this story and see what happens through the local news in that area. Very interested in the search for the shooter and what the final outcome will be.

Good God! People have DIED and the only thing you hope for because it would justify your bigoted politics is that the killer is a certain race. Most people who are murdered are murdered by people of their own race...simply because we are still a fairly segregated society. But here, witnesses have described the killer as white. Whatever the race of the killer, there is a serial killer on the loose.

We heal one at a time and spread a new attitude with our own actions.

http://www.helium.com/items/2298996-poetry-black-white

Thank you GainesvilleGreg, for the link.

Before I saw your post/link, I was sitting here thinking how depressing it is to read so many hateful comments. Not just on here, but on just about every story, the hate is spread back and forth. It just seems to get worse as time goes on.

I think of silly things, like how I wish I could wave a magic wand and everyone would start being nice to each other. Or maybe one day we would all wake up and be blind and not see color or race, but someone would still find a way to hate.

It seems like, even if someone writes something to be positive, someone else will fire back at them with a hate message or put them down for trying. I was thinking of not reading comments anymore, but then I saw your link and decided to take a chance and go there. I'm glad I didn't stop reading comments or I wouldn't have seen yours. It really brought up my spirits, so I thank you for that. :)

By the way, I also put it under my "Favorites" so I can go there whenever I want to.

Oklahoma, I would punch myself dead if I ever was to live in that MUST-hateful Place. The name sounds like vomit to me, Oklahaaahoomaaaa! Yaaaaaaaak! One of the damn places in the USA following Alabama, Mississipi....etc. Backward morons full of hate for no educated reason.

There is no sense in making a reply like that at all.

Comments like yours are why I write and why I post, Sweet_Pea. Thank-you for being a part of the cure for humanity.