Walmart employee killed during robbery in Phoenix

PHOENIX, Ariz. – Police were searching Saturday for a gunman who shot a shot and killed a Walmart store employee during a robbery.

The victim, 47-year-old support manager Peter Marquez, was killed shortly after midnight Saturday at the west Phoenix Walmart Supercenter, The Associated Press reported.


Police spokesman Sgt. Tommy Thompson said two employees were collecting cash from the store's registers and placing it in a shopping cart when a man with a handgun came up. The gunman grabbed the cart and began pushing it out of the store as other employees were alerted to the robbery.

Marquez was outside with another employee and they ran to the front doors, Thompson said.  As they approached, the robber with the cart shot Marquez. The gunman escaped on foot, crossing a street and jumping a fence into a residential area, azcentral.com reported.

The Associated Press contributed to this story.

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I love how these days employers don't train employees worth a darn. Most likely the manager assumed Walmart would fire him if he didn't do something. RIP

  • 3 votes
#1 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:26 PM EDT

Actually, I think Walmart's policy is not to play the hero. Give the robber the money and get out of the way.

  • 14 votes
#1.1 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

Walmart will fire you if you are not "asset protection certified" by the corporate offices and to try to stop a robbery. You are seen as a "liability" and they dont want to risk having to pay even one cent if you get killed trying what this guy did. Its all about the money to these people.

  • 7 votes
#1.2 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:46 PM EDT

I've mentioned a rule like that to so many people I know. Especially now that I am in Pharmacy work. People don't get it!
There is no amount of money or drugs worth losing your life for, and especially if it isn't yours to begin with! These stores are INSURED for things like this.

I've seen grocery store employees (many, just teenage boys), run after someone who stole a piece of meat, or a pack of cigarettes. NOT smart and NOT worth the price you might have to pay for trying to be the hero of a $4.00 loss!

Let the theives leave, and let the police do THEIR job...which is to find whoever did it and prosecute.
Shame this man had to lose his life unnecessarily. RIP

  • 6 votes
#1.3 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:36 PM EDT

WalMart in the news again. I can see if a robber wanted to steal from Wal-Mart, taking cash is one thing, but if her were stupid enough to try and steal a t-v or some other item, he would come back within two days out of anger because the piece of crap Chinese made product quit working after two days. The victim in this case did nothing to warrant being shot. To just be running to the doors did not pose a threat, as all the perp had to do was show his gun, and I am sure that both employees would have backed away and let him leave. It's a pure and simple case of murder. All you gun fanatics that want to blame it on the fact that this is another case of guns killing someone, no it's not. It was some sicko that killed. The gun didn't fire itself. The master mind behind the gun is the culprit. I hope he is caught, hung then tried for his crimes. Oh, that won't work if they hang him first. I wish they would try my theory first, and if he survives the hanging, then try him in a court of confusion.............

  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:32 PM EDT

actually john if you are a support manager that means that you are salaried management. salaried management has the ability to attempt to stop a robbery before the robber leaves the store. after the robber has left the store it is then the police's responsibilty to apprehend the robber.

  • 1 vote
#1.5 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:34 PM EDT

You don't see BRINKS or WELLS-FARGO employees wheeling around carts of cash without Armed Guards.....Why does WalMart send unarmed Office personnel to collect the cash from the registers...Shouldn't they at least have 1 Armed "Loss Prevention Specialist" overseeing the cash collections ??

Anyone that thinks Unemployment is at 8.2% is sadly mistaken....The real number is about 19%....and you're going to see more and more of this as people become more desparate.

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

Well, witch17, it sounds like all salaried management at Walmart should be carrying guns. In Phoenix, anyone can carry a concealed weapon, so they should be armed.

    #1.7 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:50 PM EDT

    carl-3838426....If the perp got away with the cash...he's probably already back across the border....or hiding out in the Sanctuary City section of Phoenix. Sheriff Dupnik is on the case.....

    • 2 votes
    #1.8 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:51 PM EDT

    I go to Walmart around midnight to get the day old baked goods - like clock work, every night at midnight they collect cash from the tills...at least change the times you collect.

    All Walmarts should have a moat around them - and a self destruct button.

    Check out the web site The People Of Walmart (customers) - now those people are committing a crime just leaving the house.

    • 2 votes
    #1.9 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:56 PM EDT

    When I lived in Mesa my head was on a constant swivel, and any car going by, I checked to see if the passenger side window was down - then I looked for places to duck behind.

    That Phoenix valley must have 10 outlaying cities - easily 8 million people crammed in there - best place to hide is in plain sight (maybe by the entrance of a Home Depot).

    • 1 vote
    #1.10 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 4:07 PM EDT

    Another normal night in West Phoenix, home to the multitudes of low life.

      #1.11 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 4:20 PM EDT

      You know what's almost as sad and tragic as the murder of this man? Walmart just made money off of his death. Walmart takes out life insurance policies on all of its employees. If the employee dies while working for Walmart, that employee's family doesn't get the money - Walmart does. The Walton family, which possesses more wealth than 1/3 of the entire US populace, is vile and disgusting.

      • 3 votes
      #1.12 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

      @Jerry...care to provide a link to support your outlandish claim.

      It is unfortunate that an employee has lost their life. But, as was mentioned earlier...like clock work, at every Walmart in America...all registers are emptied shortly after midnight. With the millions of former employees that have worked at Walmart, you would think that their corporate security would come up with a policy to vary the times of drawer pulls. I have noticed that in some Walmarts, there are armed, off duty police officers who serve as security. Although, most Walmarts do not need armed personnel to do drawer pulls, they do need to vary the times of the pulls.

      • 3 votes
      #1.13 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

      Google it, Dave, google it. It's not like it's some hidden secret. Several others posting in this chain have also pointed it out. The Walton family is pure filth in its lack of decency, morality and ethics.

      • 2 votes
      #1.14 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:42 PM EDT

      It is worth risking your life over. If you stand aside and let crime happen to be "safe" Your life is not worth living any longer.

      Until more people do the right thing, and risk themselves, crime will rise.

      The value of the item has nothing to do with it, it is the value of your honor.

      • 1 vote
      #1.15 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 6:36 PM EDT

      Conway I am with you when I worked for Kroger's on night shift. They expected us to chase down and get into a fist fight if need be to get their product back. Of course when my manager told me this I just laughed and told him it would be cold day in hell before I allowed myself to be shot or stabbed over a can of beans. He did not find it funny at all. The city I lived in at the time the cops were more than happy to shot people, for gods sake they put 12 rounds into a 8 yr kid for shooting off some small fireworks (blackcats) So I say cops can get their fat butt out the car and go chase the theif because that is what they are paid to do not I.

      • 1 vote
      #1.16 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 7:11 PM EDT

      witch...

      Everything in your statement is totally false. Support managers are hourly, not salery. No WM associate and I repeat, NO WM ASSOCIATE (including any and all management, regardless of being salary or hourly, and including any and all asset protection associates) is authorized to attempt to stop an armed robbery under any conditions. No WM associate, including asset protection associates, is authorized to even approach an armed suspect. also, all WM associates, INCLUDING Asset protection, are prohibited from ANY physical contact with ANY person or persons INCLUDING shoplifters, let alone an armed suspect. Please check your information before you spew it.

        #1.17 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 7:13 PM EDT

        Dave... As a store manager for Walmart who has been with the company for over 16 years, I can tell you that your life insurance allegation is false. Around 7 or 8 years ago, a regional manager was found to be purchasing life insurance policies on a handful of associates. This was done without the knowledge or consent of the corporate office. When this came to light, the practice was immediately stopped. The managers in the field who were responsible were terminated. Dave, I suggest you get your facts straight. Ohh... And remember... Don't believe everything you read on the internet!

          #1.18 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 7:43 PM EDT

          @willy...

          Again, another totally bogus post.

          You're a store manager who's been with them for 16 years and you're not aware of your company's history and you weren't aware of the fine print in documents new hires have signed in the past in some states (some states actually required that companies at least put it in the fine print)? OMG.

          No, this was not an isolated incident perped by some rouge regional manager.

          The largest retailer in the world has been sued many, many times over this issue. Google the topic and see for yourself. There was a woman who wrote a book on this who was interviewed on one of the major network's morning programs. According to this woman, the federal government passed legislation quite a while ago that made this practice legal. Lobbyists and supporters of this legislation claim that it helps industry regain some of the losses in training costs that they experience in the death of an active employee. The author I mentioned claimed in this interview (less than a year ago) that this is still in effect and she claims that most companies (the one being discussed here included) keeps paying the premiums and subsequently can, and does, collect the benefit long after the employee has left the company.

            #1.19 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 9:21 PM EDT

            Bravery should never be discouraged. This man is a hero, no matter how reckless he may seem to you. Trying to stop violent criminals is by definition a heroic thing. If only the cops were this brave...

            • 1 vote
            #1.20 - Sun Apr 8, 2012 12:00 AM EDT

            Spartan,

            In certain cases (such as the case of the plane that crashed in PA on 9/11) taking brave action may be the appropriate decision. In that case, it probably seemed apparent to the passengers that taking action would be their only chance for survival. The end result of that was tragic. God bless them. In this particular case, my opinion is that your thinking couldn't be more wrong.

            Here's the same scenario with two alternate and totally possible endings...

            (1) Associates maintain position outside store pending further information to be radio'd from other associates/managers who are inside the store. Armed robber wheels cart into parking lot and escapes over fence without shooting anyone. Result: No injuries or deaths.

            (2) Associates that are standing outside rush to the front doors as they did, armed robber shoots at them and stray bullets hit my (or your) family members that happen to be in the line of fire.

            Nuff said? It is extremely likely that the associates were simply trying to get inside the building to "manage" and keep fellow associates and customers out of harms way. It is extremely UNlikely that the associates had any desire to, or were making any attempt to, stop (or even approach) an armed robbery suspect. My guess is that there was confusion as to the suspect's location (or even the nature of the situation) and they were simply running in the wrong direction in the wrong place at the wrong time.

              #1.21 - Sun Apr 8, 2012 2:18 AM EDT
              Reply

              Let me guess.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#2 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:28 PM EDT

              Only if you promise to kill yourself if you're wrong

              • 1 vote
              #2.1 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:12 PM EDT

              Has Sheriff Dupnik blamed Sara Palin and Talk Radio yet ??

                #2.2 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

                No its not who you're wanting to blame so troll elsewhere.

                • 2 votes
                #2.3 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 4:51 PM EDT
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                Comment author avatarMark-391344Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                Thanks again NRA for making handguns so available to anyone who wants one.

                • 6 votes
                #3 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:30 PM EDT

                Once again we hear from the enlightened left. If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Why is that saying so hard to understand for some people? BTW, I'm not giving up my right to defend myself and my family. If you want to give up yours, go right ahead. When the bad guys come for you I'll respect your beliefs regarding guns and stay out of their way.

                • 16 votes
                #3.2 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:37 PM EDT

                What do you mean Mark, there are only SIX stories right now on MSNBC about handgun violence.

                • 4 votes
                #3.3 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

                It wasen`t the NRA it was holder ane the king.

                • 6 votes
                #3.4 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:43 PM EDT

                Want to thank anybody thank politicians of both sewers for the unemployment rate, thank worthless parents, thank the media. there is a lot to be thankful for. Oh I almost forgot thank the friggen criminal for making the choice to use a gun to rob somebody then shoot somebody. I know a lot of people who own guns and none of them ever robbed anybody or pulled a gun on some one. I also know a bunch of people that blame everyone else for their lot in life.

                • 12 votes
                #3.5 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:46 PM EDT

                if guns were never made he would have just been stabbed with a sword or something instead. if you have a gun and kill someone you are a killer no matter what... remove the gun, they will find a way to carry out attacks still. dont get why people think guns are the only way to kill someone so we must remove them all. such wackjobs.

                also what if you legally own a gun for hunting? want to remove them also? now game would be greatly over populated and be causing havoc. do you want black bears wondering into cities? would happen without hunters keeping the numbers to a reasonable # for their current area. what about deer? there are thousands of accidents per year due to deer already; hundreds result in death. without hunters it would take a matter of 10 years to have twice the number of deer. 20 years about 4 times the amount. again, they will run out of room and be all over the freaking place and would be getting hit left and right. same goes for any animal that is hunted.

                o and dont attempt to use the whole "well hunt with a bow" crap bc you can easily hold a place up with a bow over a gun. who wants to take an arrow to the chest?

                lastly, NRA is the national RIFLE association. yes, some handguns can be considered a rifle based off the barrel length for hunting purposes but most likely his was a small gun; so why are you targeting the NRA? to add to it the NRA are not the ones that make guns available to people. its the gun stores that do; which are regulated by each state and the federal government on gun laws. not to add you can always just buy illegal guns from some shady dude in the alley if you really wanted to or you can make your own gun.

                how about you just raise you kids better and teach them right from wrong? take the issue to the core and stop blaiming their dumb actions on other things.

                RIP Mr. Marquez

                • 2 votes
                #3.6 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

                If your going to blame anyone blame the courts for letting violent repeat offenders out of jail while keeping nonviolent offenders in jail because that is usually how it turns out. How often do we hear of someone killing someone only to find out they had a long record of violent crime?

                • 4 votes
                #3.7 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

                Stupid comment Mark. How do you know it was a legally purchased gun used by an upstanding citizen to commit the crime? You don't! Oh yeah, you're of the mentality that if you don't like guns, or are "afraid" of them, no one should have them just to please you, right?!

                • 6 votes
                #3.8 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:02 PM EDT

                Like the Giffords' shooter, this murderer probably bought his gun and ammo in Wal Mart.

                • 3 votes
                #3.9 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:13 PM EDT

                Remember this, if the guns are taken from those who go goes by the law, the bad guys can still get the guns through the black market so,,,, your comments lacks something very important.

                Just remember, you can kill with a frying pan, now do you ban cooking???

                • 5 votes
                #3.10 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

                Exactly, Wm Murphy. I read an article the other day where a kid was killed in school when he was stabbed in the neck with a pencil. I guess Mark would blame stores for making writing implements so readily available instead of blaming the kid who did the stabbing. Now we're back to smoke signals - oh wait, fire kills too. Hmmm....

                • 4 votes
                #3.11 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:14 PM EDT

                The drunk guy might have gotten his gun legally but this guy was brazen enough to go in and rob the store at gun point. I am sure if found he will not only be found to have had an illegal gun but also have a lengthy record as well. I got confused here there are two Marks.

                • 2 votes
                #3.12 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:15 PM EDT

                Walmart is the biggest gun retailer in the US. They contribute to ang group in support of the NRA.

                • 1 vote
                #3.13 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

                Like the Giffords' shooter, this murderer probably bought his gun and ammo in Wal Mart.

                Right, Grumpy. Walmart does not sale Handguns. If it was a legal gun it was probably bought at YOUR pawn shop or maybe illegally from you.

                • 1 vote
                #3.14 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 4:32 PM EDT
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                Not to worry. If the murderer is illegal Obama will support him and he'll be the victim.

                • 16 votes
                Reply#4 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:30 PM EDT

                If the murderer is illegal Obama will support him

                The Santorum supporters trudge on.

                • 11 votes
                #4.1 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

                The only person who mentioned race here is you.

                • 6 votes
                #4.3 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:58 PM EDT

                My goodness Frosty, you are emotionally immature and intellectually challenged. What's the matter - having trouble dealing with the fact we have a black president who is a better human being than you?

                • 6 votes
                #4.4 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:54 PM EDT

                All murderers are illegal. Its against the law.

                • 3 votes
                #4.5 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

                "...we have a black president..."

                Use the correct terminology. After the Zimmerman/Martin affair the correct terminology would be white/black president. Zimmerman became a white/hispanic, did he not?

                • 4 votes
                #4.6 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

                Not to worry. If the murderer is illegal Obama will support him and he'll be the victim.

                And leave a lipstick tattoo on his backside also,

                • 1 vote
                #4.7 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

                Sorry, the link in the article states the police are looking for " white or Hispanic male, in his 20s or 30s, thin build and between 5-feet, 7-inches and 5-feet, 9-inches tall. He was last seen armed with a handgun wearing a dark gray long-sleeved hoodie, blue jeans, dark shoes and sunglasses", so it can just as likely be a Jared L. Loughner-type Tea Party patriot or a Sarah Palin "guns and religon" clinger.

                Although, since a hoodie is involved this may be a case of mistaken identity, since the only criminals in hoodies are black. White criminals wear either newsboy caps, stripped black and white sweaters, black pants, and are often seen carrying bags of money with a giant "$" on the side, or a business suit for corporate acqusitions and white collar thefts.

                Sucks when life keeps bursting your bubble, doesn't it.

                • 3 votes
                #4.8 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 4:58 PM EDT
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                8.00 an hour is not worth dying for!

                • 6 votes
                Reply#5 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:31 PM EDT

                You're way off. What in the world makes you think Walmart pays it's employees something as much as eight bucks an hour? If it paid its workers that much money, how in the world would the Walton family buy its fifty-third yacht?

                • 2 votes
                #5.1 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:00 PM EDT

                Well put Jerry, I was thinking Willard would have said the person was overpaid $7.75 an hour to much. Remember we are dealing with 1890's mentality here.

                • 1 vote
                #5.2 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:19 PM EDT

                Well I thought it said he was a manager ;)

                  #5.3 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 6:20 PM EDT
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                  He would have died anyway probably could not afford the Walmart Health Insurance sometimes offered to employees.

                  • 5 votes
                  Reply#6 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:35 PM EDT

                  Walmart probably gained a great deal of money from this employee being killed. They most likely had a life-insurance policy on him, and could get a few thousand dollars, if not more. Of course, his family is @!$%# out of luck, but for walmart, it really pays. Since it is a normal practice for walmart to insure their employees, with walmart being the beneficiary, it would not surprise me if the managers in the regional office are smiling about this.

                  • 4 votes
                  #6.2 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:48 PM EDT

                  The average full time employee at Walmart who is non-management cannot afford insurance. Probably not far behind that is management. This is an extremely sad commentary about the nation's #1 employer! Everyone goes to Walmart for the low prices, which are slowly and sneakily climbing up. Keep going people, and eventually Walmart will be the only game in town. You can kiss your low prices goodbye at that point!

                  I hate Walmart with a passion..it show corporate greed at its finest...I will pay more to go elsewhere-I refuse to help them keep running other businesses out! Again, wait and see, one day when they are the only store left standing, you will be sorry that you contributed to the directors and owners of Walmart and their greed.

                  • 8 votes
                  #6.3 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:39 PM EDT

                  fed up X5

                  Walmart probably gained a great deal of money from this employee being killed. They most likely had a life-insurance policy on him, and could get a few thousand dollars, if not more. Of course, his family is @!$%# out of luck, but for walmart, it really pays. Since it is a normal practice for walmart to insure their employees, with walmart being the beneficiary, it would not surprise me if the managers in the regional office are smiling about this.

                  You are correct. It's a little know fact that Walmart takes out life insurance policies on all of its employees. It starts at an $18,000 benefit for the most recent-hired lowest-paid and increases for as long as the employee remains or what the position is. Walmart can clean up with lots of money if it's a longer-working, higher-positioned worker. Since the man murdered was in a mangerial position, the Walton family is now raking it in. It's waiting for the check from the insurance company to clear so it can install gold-plated faucets in a bathroom in one of its mansions. Maybe it'll remember to mail a condolence card to the man's family but don't count on it. That would require purchasing a stamp.

                  • 2 votes
                  #6.4 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

                  miami cheri I am right there with you I have not shopped at walmart in a little or a decade. Feels great not to be funneling money in to the pockets of the most greedy, selfish, asinine fools on our planet. Not to mention once you break the ties with them you realize they are far from the cheapest around. Most definatly can get better products from other places sometimes you pay more but that is a small sacrifice to make. Of course I order alot of the products i buy come out of europe if I can't find them made here. Which of course means I order alot out of europe.

                    #6.5 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 7:32 PM EDT
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                    Sad and needless. My condolences to his family.

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#8 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

                    here ya go stand your ground: Opps he didn't have a gun to stand his ground..Now what a stupid F=in law that is....doesn't help the innocence guy like Martin....Of course I'll get a stupid rely from a moron right winger

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#9 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

                    wow dude you relly show your intelligance

                    • 2 votes
                    #9.1 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:46 PM EDT

                    see I told you I'll get a stupid rely...Bet your a right winger?

                    • 2 votes
                    #9.2 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:48 PM EDT

                    I am not a "right winger" or stupid. You may want to let someone come into your house or on your property and do whatever they want, but I don't. Now what is stupid is thinking you know what happened by popular opinion. You have no clue what happened, only what was fed to you. If Zimmerman is guilty of murder then it was murder or manslaughter, that has nothing to do with me shooting some jerk that wants to threaten me or my family. I like a lot of other people live in a location that could take up to forty minutes for a cop to respond. Do you think I have time to wait? How about someone crawling into your daughters bedroom window, are you going to wait? How about if you keep on getting threatened in your own neighborhood and then get assaulted? I do not know what happened there and neither do you.

                    • 6 votes
                    #9.3 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:04 PM EDT

                    Crabdusty: You are so right if someone come onto or into your house then yes if you have to prctect yourself and your family..But most people won't go looking for it and decide to take the law into their own hand...same if they hijack your car shoot and then ask ?.

                      #9.4 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

                      Maze.. your statements are beyond unintelligent! What does the "stand your ground" law have to do with anything about this case.

                      "Of course I'll get a stupid rely from a moron right winger"

                      No, you'll get a "reply" from intelligent, educated people who realized your comment is worth as much as a box of rocks.

                        #9.5 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:28 PM EDT
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                        wow you people need a life you get blaming guns you get somehow blaming santorum and then you get health insurance and wage comments. come on people you guys are why this country is turning to sh&t. The only one to blame is the shooter lets get out there and find him and lock him up in arpios jail for life. The crime was for drugs I guarentee it and nothing else. Close the borders and put the troops down there and you will stop most of the drugs and the murder rate will drop dramatically and things like this will not happen.

                        • 3 votes
                        Reply#10 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:43 PM EDT

                        there you go saying it for drugs and he was black....and you guarentee it ?

                        • 1 vote
                        #10.1 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:54 PM EDT

                        you get somehow blaming santorum

                        Uhh, that was a sarcastic response to a poster that brought up Obama, I guess somehow you missed that little gem.

                        • 5 votes
                        #10.2 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:57 PM EDT

                        Moron...thay were practically begging to get robbed by the way the money was being carelessly handeled. Had nothing to do with how bad society is.

                        It could have been just as likely that the man probably needed money to buy health care instead of drugs, since only the rich are allowed to have it right now.

                        • 3 votes
                        #10.3 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:07 PM EDT

                        It is sad that the world's "richest country" has come down to the fact you consider your self lucky to have health insurance, and a roof, whether you own it or not, over your head. So many people blame the Doctors for the problem...but it is the greed of the insurance companies....corporate greed is at an all time high and no relief in sight. It's us working class people who suffer. More bankruptcies are filed in this country due to medical bankruptcies.

                        My Daddy always said that eventually the problems in this country will not be due to race relations, but the 3% that make up the wealthy, and than the rest of us 97% working stiffs. It looks like that is how we are headed! We will be just like a third world country, that no matter how hard we work, we will never get ahead.

                        • 2 votes
                        #10.4 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:47 PM EDT

                        You don't have to be rich to afford health insurance. You just need to work. I have had health insurance since I was 18. I'm 54 now. I always found a job so I can have health insurance for my family.

                          #10.5 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

                          Did your "DADDY" make sure you went to school? Did he tell you to respect others property. Did he tell you that you are responsible for yourself. Or did he say it was OK to be on welfare,do drugs, drop out of school and live off the public dime. Probably the former but there is a lot of the latter.

                            #10.6 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

                            DZ1020: I have worked since I was 16 and now own my own company, but because I have a pre-existing condition, insurance is impossible for me to buy.. so I left the USA to get insurance. I'd love to come home, but no company in Nevada will sell me insurance at any price.

                              #10.7 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:32 PM EDT

                              aaron,

                              "Moron...thay were practically begging to get robbed by the way the money was being carelessly handeled. Had nothing to do with how bad society is."

                              Then you go on to surmise that the thief needed money for health care or health insurance??

                              By the way, how do you propose that cash drawers be moved from check-outs to the back-office? Brinks truck through the 3' aisles? All business depends on the inherent honesty of its customers and employees. While many companies have loss-control measures, like camera to detect stock-room and shoplifting theft, cash-drawer controls, and security cameras to identify thieves; few are willing to absorb the risk of confronting a thief where customers or employees lives could be endangered. Aside from liability risks, it is just bad for business to have a store with a reputation for violence.

                              Two employees removing locked cash drawers at shift change happens at virtually every major store in this country, everyday. The cashier runs the tape, or it has been run remotely, signs off on tape or on-line, the tape goes in the drawer, the lid is placed on the tray before removal from the register and is locked, and it is unlocked and counted out in the back office to ensure that the cash balances. The tray is then readied by counting the next shift's cash requirement for making change. Note, it is possible that with change-back debit-card purchases, the tray may have less money than at the start of the shift.

                              A bully with a gun could have just robbed the cashiers and customers where they stood. As it is, this guy murders a man and escapes with nothing.

                                #10.8 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:37 PM EDT

                                I think you should go down there that would be a good job for YOU ya know low pay dirty desert maybe we should hire the mexicans they work for nothing they could do the job

                                  #10.9 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

                                  "It could have been just as likely that the man probably needed money to buy health care instead of drugs, since only the rich are allowed to have it right now."

                                  Aaron, did you write that with a straight face? Come on, someone held up a store and killed another to get away so he could BUY HEALTH INSURANCE?

                                  All of a sudden I'm hearing the theme tune to The Twilight Zone...

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                                  #10.10 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:51 PM EDT

                                  dww33 your lack of intelligence rings clear.........the war on drugs is a joke as well as the border thing you speak of. Are you so sure he didnt need to say feed his family? Im not condoning what he did...he should go to jail for life! But for you to say these things shows how dumb you really are!

                                    #10.11 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:29 PM EDT
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                                    Mark-391344

                                    Thanks again NRA for making handguns so available to anyone who wants one

                                    I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that this robber is probably not a member of the NRA

                                    ....funny...MSNBC isn't providing a description of the assailant

                                    ....I wonder why

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                                    Reply#11 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:45 PM EDT

                                    Guess they don't know what you look like

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                                    #11.1 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:48 PM EDT

                                    They don't have a picture of any 12 or 13yos handy. Gees that was easy to figure out. To all you Anti-NRA posters kiss where I can't and I don't mean my elbow either. If you even took the time to learn about the NRA you would be surprised at what they actually stand for.

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                                    #11.2 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:45 PM EDT
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                                    By msnbc.com staff and news services

                                    A police officer was fatally shot early Friday at a Wal-Mart store in Austin, Texas, and a suspect is in custody.

                                    Senior Police Officer Jaime Padron was shot in the neck and died at the scene, Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo said, adding that Padron left behind two daughters, ages 10 and six.

                                    See, if you have a gun and are trained and ready to use it you don't become a victim.

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                                    Reply#12 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:48 PM EDT

                                    You've defeated yourself there Willy, by suggesting not even the police should have guns - a notion so bizarre as to cost your wealth of credibility.

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                                    #12.1 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:12 PM EDT

                                    i think willys point is having a gun with knowledge on it's use doesn't mean you & others around you are safe. it can actually make you a target. someone at the giffords shooting was well trained and had a gun but knew they didn't have a clear shot because of the chaos so they chose not to shoot for fear of killing innocent people. i am a hunter but do agree something must be done about this ridiculous slaughter being done to us by both illegal gun owners and the legal ones. as for zimmerman, for me it boils down to one simple fact. 911 operator told him to stop his pursuit & he did not thus becoming the aggressor at that point. it went from self-defense to murder. what most miss here is the parent's did not call for his conviction, only an investigation which should result in confiscation of the weapon & knowing zimmerman's whereabouts. neither of which took place. a law enforcement official would be on desk duty pending investigation with his weapon immediately confiscated. as for the NRA, i am a hunter but have no time for the politicing they do. they have done as much harm to the 2nd admendment as the other side. by having a gun, with a ridiculous number of shots, doesn't mean you will win the fight. sadly most people assume the gunman is a thug with no shooting skills. don't count on it, it could cost your wife or children their lives.

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                                    #12.2 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

                                    WilliamOfRites

                                    You are a jerk!! Were you born a jerk or did you take special courses to be such a POS.

                                      #12.3 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:53 PM EDT

                                      Just curious, did the article say the cop was on duty and armed at the time?

                                        #12.4 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:56 PM EDT

                                        I've not seen the original article, so can't answer your question. Would like to note, however, that most cops are armed even when off-duty. I remember my brother (a cop) wearing a gun in an ankle holster at a family wedding!

                                          #12.5 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:30 PM EDT

                                          Christian Warrior,

                                          Many jurisdiction require off-duty officers to carry weapons outside their homes, so they are prepared to be summoned to duty. That would include trips to Walmart.

                                            #12.6 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:42 PM EDT

                                            Thanks, just curious. Personally, I'm a civilian and I carry every single place it's legal for me to carry, so I imagine a cop would too.

                                              #12.7 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:48 PM EDT
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                                              Wow...willing to risk their lives so Wallyworld doesn't loose a dime of their billions of dollars.

                                              Was their actions required by the Wallyworld protocol used in dealing with robberies....seriously doubt it...but then again I've noticed that wallyworld seems to mostly hire employees that are not very bright.

                                              Two major errors; one in how they were collecting the money, the other in how they handeled the robbery they practically provoked. Lets just see what happens when you wheel around a cart obviously full of money that the public can easily notice every day.

                                              I'd have to be coming off a week-long meth binge, screaming I AM INVINCIBLE, to be unarmed of a gun or brain and chasing after a man with a gun. Maybe that's why Wallyworld won't hire me, lol

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                                              Reply#13 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:59 PM EDT

                                              I suspect that Wal-Mart probably wouldn't hire you because of your literacy shortcomings, and you're obvious lack of good judgement.

                                                #13.1 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:11 PM EDT

                                                How ironic that you would say that. I'm sorry you cant tell the difference between a little sarcasm and good judgement. You're severely lacking in comprehension skills as well.

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                                                #13.2 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:02 PM EDT

                                                jasperark don't be a word nazi perticularly if you don't understand the meaning to the words you are writing.

                                                it makes you apper as the pompous fool who thinks they know all and really know nothing.

                                                  #13.3 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 7:56 PM EDT

                                                  "...literacy shortcomings, and you're..."

                                                  That would be 'your' Mr. Hallway Monitor.

                                                    #13.4 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 9:02 PM EDT
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                                                    Question is, why was the door UNLOCKED in the 1st place after the store was closed, even though the manager and one other person were outside? Unfortunately it sounds like a robber who had already cased the place and a lack of common sense was what got this manager killed.

                                                      Reply#14 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:59 PM EDT

                                                      um, maybe it was a 24 hour store, and the door wasn't locked because it was open?

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                                                      #14.1 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:09 PM EDT

                                                      Fatomdog most supercenters dont close. They are open 24/7. So the doors wouldn't be locked. Make sure your facts are straight first

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                                                      #14.2 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:14 PM EDT

                                                      If it's a supercenter it is open 24 hours. They have to collect the day's till BEFORE midnight and reset the drawer for the next day.

                                                        #14.3 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:20 PM EDT
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                                                        WilliamofRites:

                                                        In stating that there are "only six stories right now" on MSNBC about shootings (I detect sarcasm), you beg the question: Why do we not also hear about all the knifings, bludgeonings, strangulations, vehicular homicides, and poisonings that take place in our nation and around the world, to the same degree that we hear about shootings? The reporting frequency of each of these types of crimes would make one think that the only way people are killed these days is by gun shot. Can that actually be the case? If not, are shootings overly represented in the media? And if that's the case, does it not suggest a media agenda? And why do we not hear reports of when a private gun owner successfully defends himself or herself, family members, friends, or even strangers through use of a firearm; such events occurring in our nation over 2,000,000 times each year?

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                                                        Reply#15 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:07 PM EDT

                                                        As a front end manager at Wal-Mart, this story is just plain sad. A routine practice and a man is dead. And for those of you who think the company will get anything from his death, you're wrong. Any insurance and benefits he had go to his family. So stop the talk of politics and the NRA. A man is dead and the gunman is loose and on the run.
                                                        For my part I thank the night time managers for all the work you do and making my job possible. And to the family my condolences. He will be missed by us all

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                                                        Reply#16 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

                                                        You don't see BRINKS or WELLS-FARGO employees wheeling around carts of cash without Armed Guards.....Why does WalMart send unarmed Office personnel to collect the cash from the registers...Shouldn't they at least have 1 Armed "Loss Prevention Specialist" overseeing the cash collections ??

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                                                        #16.1 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:42 PM EDT

                                                        Mike,

                                                        And so this gaurd is supposed to start a gun-fight in the store? With customers and employees in the line on fire? Having an openly armed gaurd just attracts the eye, and makes him (or her) the first target. And once shooting starts, it is hard to stop.

                                                          #16.2 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:48 PM EDT
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                                                          This is truly a terrible tragedy! I also wonder why no "description" as to race or anything was not given on the dirtbag that did this. Hopefully....Walmart will step up and at LEAST pay for his funeral! I am seriously thinking of carrying my gun in my purse when I go somewhere now. This friggin world just isn't safe anymore!!!! Yes, I know how to use a gun...yes I will use my gun if it ever comes to that.

                                                            Reply#17 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

                                                            Just thinking about why the employees were emptying cash into a shopping cart while shoppers are still in the store.

                                                            This must be a regular practice at that Wal-Mart and gun man knew the procedure. Almost akin to waving raw meat in the aisles to attract the animals.

                                                            This will change the way stores close out their registers at the end of business. Most stores close the building, lock the doors, set the alarms, and then make sure no one is hiding in the restrooms. Only then with an armed guard should the manager be collecting money from the registers.

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                                                            Reply#18 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:15 PM EDT

                                                            heather,

                                                            Locked cash TRAYS, no loose or visible cash. And harder to open than the typical home safe. And many Walmarts do NOT close. Casinos use the same system by the way, with a lot more cash.

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                                                            #18.1 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:52 PM EDT

                                                            Bill: sorry to say..but people are commenting on what the article states. it didn't say anything about the cash being put into "Locked cash TRAYS" in the shopping cart. But of course that makes more sense. But sill What the heck kind of system is that?

                                                            I still say..there could have been a better system or security when it comes to this.

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                                                            #18.2 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:05 PM EDT
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                                                            Condolences to family and friends of Peter Marquez. It's sad to hear of any employee who is killed while going about their regular duties.

                                                            To those of you arguing back and forth amongst yourselves about gun laws or whatever other petty attacks are being thrown here from one poster to another, a man has died that should have been able to go home like anybody else at the end of a day's work. Enjoy your days on this earth and do good instead of picking each other apart. Celebrate life while you are able. Good wishes to all of you and have a nice weekend.

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                                                            Reply#19 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:19 PM EDT

                                                            Have gun ... will shoot.

                                                            End of story.

                                                              Reply#20 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

                                                              I am not for the death penalty. Too many innocent people have been put to death in our failing judiciary system. However, I am all for it when like in this case, the murderer can be 100% identified by this poor man's coworkers. Death to murderers. Let them fly straight into the spirit world and meet God's judgment there.

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                                                              Reply#21 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:27 PM EDT

                                                              God bless, Peter. May you be in heaven with Jesus today.

                                                                Reply#22 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:29 PM EDT

                                                                "Shot a shot"? Really? "Fired a shot" or "Shot and killed", but "Shot a shot"?

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                                                                Reply#23 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:29 PM EDT

                                                                When our country starts defending the rights of the victims instead of making excuses for them and failing to enforce laws that will take these criminals off the streets we will continue to have these crimes. We, as private citzens have a constitutional right to defend ourselves from harm - take our guns out of our hands then, TRULY, only the criminals will be armed. Since our government is so hell bent on being politically correct at our expense and have brainwashed a certain portion of our population who are easily mislead into believing that gun control is the only action, those of us who have decided that we will, at all costs, protect ourselves , our family and...yes, even an occasionalgun control advocate. We will continue to support any organizations that defend our rights against anyone who is trying to inflict their outrageous will on us.

                                                                We need to make it very difficult for ANY CRIMINAL to make victims of us - QUESTION: when has anyone heard of a law abiding, sane, person ever commit a crime with a gun. There is another reason why our government wants gun control - read your history and you will know the answer.

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                                                                Reply#24 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:31 PM EDT

                                                                Is this really true? First of all according to the article , The employees put the cash from the registers in a shopping cart? Seriously? Then someone came up, grabbed the cart and headed for the doors? . I could kind of see putting the cash "drawers" in a shopping cart, but just the cash? yup..great security Walmart!

                                                                in any case..my sympathies go out to the victims family.

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                                                                Reply#25 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 2:42 PM EDT

                                                                @s-1489198, the cash is not just thrown in a shopping cart. The cash put in cash bags. But let me ask you this, what the hell is the difference? Are you saying that putting cash drawers in the shopping cart instead of putting cash in the cart would somehow make a difference? You could probably get a job with walmart as a cash manager.

                                                                  Reply#26 - Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:00 PM EDT
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