
U.S. Justice Dept.
Richard Leon Finkbiner
The owner of an Internet service provider in Indiana has been charged with blackmailing children into performing sexually explicit acts over webcams, authorities said Monday.
Richard Leon Finkbiner, age 39, of Brazil, Ind., about 50 miles southwest of Indianapolis, was charged in a federal complaint last week with sexual exploitation of children. The allegations involve two 14-year-old boys, but the FBI said in court documents that it found thousands of sexually explicit images and videos on Finkbiner's computer that suggest "several hundred" other victims.
Authorities said the "sextortion" scheme worked this way:
Using the pseudonym "Josh Swaim," Finkbiner would befriend young boys on social media and capture sexually explicit video of them they had uploaded on what they thought was an anonymous video chat site, the complaint alleges.
He would then tell them that if they didn't record more sexually explicit videos, he would release the clips online or send them to their friends, it says.
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In both cases the government revealed Monday, the IP address of the computer being used was tracked back to Clay County Internet in Brazil. Indiana business records list it as an Internet service provider of which Finkbiner is owner and president.
In the criminal complaint, Finkbiner is quoted as telling one victim that he was a hacker who knew how to remain anonymous, but the FBI makes it clear that he didn't, really.
"Analysis of FINKBINER's computer and other digital media uncovered thousands of video files depicting hundreds of individuals on various states of undress or engaged in sexually explicit conduct," the FBI said in court documents. "Many, if not most, of these individuals appear to be between the ages of 14-16 years of age," it said.
U.S. Attorney Joe Hogsett told reporters that Finkbiner would threaten to "make these images available to people close to [the victims], which was designed to frighten them."
At various times, Hogsett alleged, Finkbiner threatened to out the children to their parents, friends, coaches or even pastors. The complaint adds that he also threatened to post some of the images to gay pornographic websites.
"Only I have this link," he allegedly wrote to one victim, asking: "You want to play this game or you want to be a gay porn star?"
To another, he allegedly acknowledged, "yes it is illegal im ok with that," warning: "if u don't play I promise ill f*** ur life over...I won't get caught im a hacker I covered my tracks."
The level of terror the alleged threats caused is chillingly revealed in the transcript of an email message one of the boys sent to Finkbiner's Hotmail address:
"All I ask you for is to delete it please im onlyh 14 please just to this to somebody else not me please."
Finkbiner was held pending a probable cause hearing Wednesday in Terre Haute. If convicted, he could face 30 years in federal prison.
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A bullet behind the ear is what anyone who would exploit children in this fashion deserves! I will donate the bullet!
Prisoners will be getting a new life like toy ....
The makers of soap on a rope will be getting a new customer too!!!!!!!
I have to wonder that if children were better informed as to their chances of encountering perverts on these sites they'd stay off. Now that schools are educating children how to use computers and internet access they should also be alerting them to the dangers and their parents ought to monitor the on-line visits and who they are communicating with. Naive and inattentive Parents aren't helping. Tracking down all the sickos in our society is no small task.
Make it a 45LC and I'll do it! Hell just let the judge drop the hammer and he won't even have a chance to stand up if it was up to me.
A bullet to nice besides there's been enough killing, stick a concrete vibrator up his butt..One hour of that he'll quit.
I know perverts come in all sizes and colors, but this guy looks exactly what I suspected him to look like.
Is it just me, or do these pedophiles always look like they're missing a chromosome?
SI
"I have to wonder that if children were better informed..."
Rontron, your entire post is exactly what I was thinking as I read the article.
Most parents have no idea what is available to their children, as the kids go online. The schools should be spending some serious time better explaining the world to their students, and it might not be a bad idea to have some forums the parents could attend, so that they could learn the threats their kids encounter in using the computer.
I wonder how he feels about his life turning into a gay-rape porno movie soon.
This guy is just one of hundreds of thousands on the net just like him..tell your children that.
If this is true that guy is the definition of creepy. Shameful.
Nothing surprising here. How many times we've seen his kind on Dateline.
I really hope this guy is GUILTY, because this is another case of the media convicting a person in the eye of the public LONG before he even gets his day in court. Seriously, they even posted his picture.
If the FBI somehow got something wrong, his life is already destroyed.
So, to repeat - at this point, I really hope they got it right - and he in fact is *guilty.*
Let this be a lesson to all the Finkbinders in cyber world . Never name your kids DICK !!!!!!!!!
I have two daughters, one just turned 11, the other will be 10 this month. They both have computers, connected to the internet. I know their every move. I know where they've been, what they've said, who they talk to, screen shots of their web pages. I'm telling everyone who has children, do not take their safety for granted. Even though my daughters have not searched a porn site (or the like), I feel at some point, as they begin to pick up more of this kind of stuff from their school chums, they will get curious and want to know what it's all about. At that point, when I see this in my logger program, I can have a heart to heart talk. I use a keylogger program, that records everything. Yes, it is spying on my children. But, if it keeps them safe, then I'll spy on them 24 hours a day. I will not ever believe that these keylogger programs should be used on a spouse, or anyone who is of age, where you just feel it is your right to know what they are doing or going. That is being a control freak and violates their rights. So, only use these programs for protecting your children, not for spying on your spose. Never take your childrens internet use for granted. It may not be their fault they've become exposed to a pervert.
Children should never have computers in their bedrooms. If they do, it cannot be connected to the Internet.
No "smart phones" inside bedrooms either.
This is where kids are recording themselves acting out every gross pervs fantasy.
So it's another day in Perverts Paradise, and I'm ecstatic that this guy has been nabbed, but still I wonder: Why are these teens willing to go there in the first place? I realize that 'porn' draws the largest of all Internet hits, but I still wonder about their mindsets at the time the first event takes place. I must admit that I've never been interested in Internet porn and I admit to being of advanced age. However, I am trying to wrap my head around the "why" of the matter. Where are their parents? Why do they have unfettered Internet access? Why do they have computers in their rooms, and why are they allowed to have cell phones "after hours?" I can only imagine the images on the Internet are quite enticing and copious, but I have to wonder about these parents. Are they just too busy to manage their children(s) lives like they should? I'm not condemning, but I know this one thing: If I were raising children in this day and age, their access to the Internet and to smart phones would be limited to "necessity only" purposes. Ive noticed a # of my nieces and nephews with their smart phones. . .they can't do anything but handle their phones and are downright anti-social as a result. Something is wrong with the world today for real!
I'm not the least bit surprised something like this was going on. After watching that series "To Catch a Predator" on Dateline years ago, I realized these people are driven by a sickness they literally can't control. I don't know what to do with them except lock them away for good as recidivism is apparently quite high amongst this group. Wasn't there a recent article that supported castration for rapists as being somewhat effective? Perhaps it would work here.
The internet has enabled something that for centuries prior was a mere fantasy for most of these degenerates.
ONLY up to 30 years...you gotta be kiddin' me...then again, I doubt he'll last that long anyway! LOL!!!
"I'm only fourteen" and the pleading led to what? Extortion and bullying and threats. I find it gratifying that the 'computer master' got caught, now, what would be more gratifying would be for him to get many, many years behind bars with the 'kiddie molester' title following him. Think his life is going to get very 'real' soon.
The ONLY answer here is capital punishment. No humiliation, no long drawn out process of appeals, no mob rule, no 'let the prison system deal it's own justice', none of that. Just a calm, lethal injection to rid the world of this guy who abused people. As for this 'let the legal system handle it', the legal system is rigged to let criminals escape real punishment. It actually punishes the victims and makes victims of society. Think about it, when we give this guy a life sentence we're paying more per year to keep him than we would pay to send a kid to an ivy league school. AND, to top it off, say we give him 10+ years and decide he's 'rehabilitated', whatever that means. Where's he going to work? How will he reintegrate into society? What kind of person will he be after 10 years of 'prison justice'? What would we expect anyone to be like after 10 years of being abused by felons?
Seriously, a quick, quiet death sentence carried out sooner than later is what we need in this an many other cases. To those who say otherwise I hope your children get this kind of exploitation and your exploiter gets your recommended 'sane and humane' sentence. Also, I could only hope YOUR tax dollars alone go to house the bastard.
I'd gladly donate the bullet. I think that the death penalty should be expanded to include these kinds of crimes. There is a special place in hell for these kinds of people.
That's some pretty sick stuff when people prey on children. Other animals don't do it and they have free will as well. Are we the only species this morally corrupt?
I'm not for killing anyone, but this guy should never be allowed to reenter society--never.
That's it up to 30 years! I say give him 30 minutes to say his good-byes and just set the dial to well done.
I am so sick of people like this still being allowed to continue to breath the same air as the rest of us
sickos like this take advantage of the fact that too many priviledged kids have 24/7 unfettered access to the internet. While I hope this pervert gets his just rewards, I also put blame on the parents for obviously not caring or monitoring what their little darlings are doing. Hopefully this will wake up some parents. (assuming they know what "parenting" means)
Didn't the article say he originally contacted these kids because he found sexually implicit photos of them that they themselves had posted online??? What the hell is wrong with these kids??? Where are the moms and dads??? I hope they hang this character from the highest tree after they castrate his ass!
Not that I am defending this pervert, but where the hell were these kids' parents when they first started posting the sexually explicit videos and pictures that allowed this guy to blackmail them in the first place. If this guy is guilty he deserves to spend a very long time in prison, preferably in the general population so that they can educate him about how people, even hardened criminals, feel about those who abuse children.
Kids should have their computer use monitored by their parents. Kids should not have computers in their room, they should use a computer that is in a family room or other family space so that parents can easily keep an eye on what they are doing. Letting kids have internet connected computers, or even smartphones that can take and send pictures, in their rooms is a recipe for trouble. In our highly connected world, parents need to be extremely diligent in keeping an eye on what their children are doing on-line.
Okay, so how many times do you hear on the news about any of this jacka$$es dying in prison. It's because there are too many of them in there now. Give me the bullet and I'll shoot him wherever the judge will let me. I hope it's around lunch time. Killing a pervert may just make me hungry.
What a creepy man. However, where are the parents of these kids that should be watching them and monitoring their computer activity. We really need to remove all cams from your kids computers and cell phones imo.
Kids do not need to be stuck to a computer or texting all the time. They need to learn verbal and social skills with other kids and people face to face.
Parents really need to take away all these electronics from their kids and start parenting them and paying attention to them as well.
jussayin-
White, middle-aged -- and I bet he's a church-goer, too.
Kids are kids, I was one, you were one, we all did stupid sh*t growing up... Anyone who tries to shift any of this onto the kids, or their parents, is missing the point. Personally, to everyone who wants to donate a bullet for this uncle Chester piece of sh*t, I'll volunteer to pull that trigger, please send .45acp...
The Quacked One
You are probably right about that TQO.
Wrong Soverign. I grew up without a computer or cell phone and did just fine. Parents are responsible for the tools (webcams and cellphones) they provide to their kids. If you are going to give your kids access to a cell or computer, monitor them and teach them the good and bad that comes with these electronic devices.
It's the parents responsibility to keep an eye on them at all times. As in this case. The kids unmonitored by their parents became a victim to this pos man. If the parents were actually parenting, then maybe it never would have happened to them.
You bring a kid into the world. They are 100% your responsibility.
Yet another perverted bully on the web. Thirty years? That sounds just fine to me, as I can only imagine how difficult it was for the teenagers being blackmailed by this creep. Hopefully, lessons have been learned.
Every parent with young children today, should make it a priority to become internet savvy. This will enable them to monitor their young children's activity on the internet.
There are many more and even worse Finkbiners out there.
I agree with you on this. Parents need to watch over their kids more carefully when it comes to cells and the internet.
Yes the man was wrong for all he's done, but the parents gave their kids the tools so this man could gain access to them.
Learn to install some parental controls on the computers and cell phones your kids have access to.
The schools, the schools, the schools - how about you adults start acting like parents, after all you made these children! It's not the schools job to raise your them! However as a community person, I have no problem trying to help you teach them the right things in life. Like compassion, helpfulness, kindness, wariness of idiots on the internet. Things that all should be taught to our young as they learn and grow into men and women. Especially the right of self defense and the responsiblity of how to shoot, hunt, fish, and self sustainment.
Being an ISP provider, it makes it much easier for that dude to prey on the kids, since he can monitor what's going on on his network. Makes the perp that much more of an a r s e. It's like, let's say, a landlord abusing his authority to extort 'favors' from his tenants.
In some states it does, but unfortunately the cutoff age is usually 12, which means this guy would skate and maybe get life. Of course, I am in the South and perverts like this guy are perfect examples for the need to revive those good old-fashioned lynch mobs.
Wow, some of you are expecting parents to supervise their kids!! Yet when anyone says that about Trayvon Martins parents their called racists. Suprised that there are only 355 comments after 6 hours. What this guy did is widespread all over America, by POS men of all races against kids of all races. Where are they politicians demanding inquires, more investigations, harsher sentences for these types of crimes?? Where are the Religious leaders?? Where are the protesters??? Why don't groups put out wanted posters for the citzens arrests of all these internet sickcos targeted children??? Where is the media @!$%#storm????
Well maybe you believe in sheltering your kids to the point that they're raised as sheep. I however believe in raising mine to be wolves. My 8 year old son is street smart, is well versed in firearms, and wouldn't hesitate use one to save a life. These are some of the tools that I've given he and his sister. That's all fine and dandy, however it's still not the point I was making. Did you learn from your mistakes? where you given the freedom to screw up, so you could learn how to make it right? I myself had a beeper in 6 & 7th grade, had a cell phone in 8th, (and ever since), was making my own porn with my girlfriends at 16, and never once was I taken advantage of. Good, bad, or otherwise; life is that to be lived, and the more experiences that you have with this life, again good, or bad, the more of a chance you have to survive it. Would you have learned how to drive, if you'd never been in a car? Would you know when to quit drinking, had you not once before gotten so drunk that you threw up? As for responsibility, I'm 33 and retired. Can you say the same? The simple point that you've seemed to have missed, is that this guy is a piece of Sh*t. He's still gonna' be a piece of Sh*t no matter how much you try to shelter your kids from him. My children however, know how and when to flush the damn toilet... Hope I don't sound condescending, just trying to elaborate, Have a Good day people...
Thanks to all who see that regardless of what this man did, it is the job of parents to know what the kids are doing. I'm sorry but I am sick and tired of reading about all of these kids doing stuff like this when they shouldn't. Isn't it the job of the parents to teach them not to put naked pictures or videos of theirselves out there on the internet? Yes, I'm old at 42 and I didn't have the internet at home or a cell phone but I had something a hell of a lot worst, Mardi Gras. People think I'm nuts because I didn't attend a New Orleans parade until I was 16 yo and it was with adult supervision (older siblings). I was also told that you don't show your stuff (boobs, etc) because at the time you could end up having a picture taken. Then that went to you could be caught on video, and now it's the internet. My parents cared about me and knew where I was and who I was with. That is what is missing is a lack of parental involvement.
bebop, i thought the exact same thing.
This is horrible! I do not agree with people putting a computer in a child's room, they need to use one in the family room, kitchen or den; where they can do homework but not have the privacy to get into trouble like this. We, as parents, seem to think once their child reaches a certain age, that they become old enough to take care of themselves. Please, they need attention as pre-teens and teenagers as much as when they were toddlers, because they can get into worse situations as teens than they could as toddlers. Sound too stifling or invasive........too bad; parenting a teen takes more than providing a home, meals, clothes and a ride to soccer.
Sovereign couldnt have elaborated my sentiment any clearer than on post 1.39. An overprotected child is a helpless child that is at a much higher risk of being victimized than someone that knows about the world around them, not to mention being more "socially adjusted" to the real world. There are a lot of people here that were raised in a different time and are themselves sheltered from the world around them which makes it even worse on the kids because the adults they look up to are victims (or potential victims) themselves.
I am in my 30s and remember a time before the internet, but spent the latter part of my teens growing up with it. My parents who are in their 60s are not so naive as to be blind to what is out there, but I know other people in their generation and my grandparents who are in their 80s that would be appalled by what is open to anyone to view. Candy-coat it all you want but closing your eyes and humming loud enough to drown out the world around you doesnt make it go away, the same was as turning off your bedroom light doesnt put the entire world to sleep. Either embrace the world around you or shun it completely, but dont think that you are doing your kids any favors by postponning the inevitable.
Movingout: sounds good, man. Now, about YOU. Your ex said you forced her to do things. And I am sorry, you don't get a trial either. I'm sure you understand.
I think all of these violent comments are disgusting. I truly feel you should give this guy a break. Doing these violent things makes you no better...........
JUST YANKING YOUR CHAIN GUYS. SERIOUSLY I'M JUST PROVIDING A LITTLE LEVITY HERE.
My true feelings are these: When I hear of a child or children being sexually abused I honestly get sick to my stomach. Nauseous really. It is like this rage building inside of me that I continually force into submission, and I think it just wreaks havoc on my system. I have seen the worst of what people can do to each other, I have seen death up close and personal. Yet somehow I am able to shrug it off, maintain composure, and dismiss it because it is a harsh reality that some must endure.
But the sexual abuse of a child? Enough said.
"Have Gun Will Travel". Just cover my expenses, the rest I will take care of.
I have to say that most parents are powerless to this kind of abuse, unless they cut off their kids' internet access entirely. Don't blame the parents. Blame the perps.
I was unfortunately a victum of scum like this when I was a child. I suffered for almost 14 years of abuse like this. I cannot describe what it did to my life. There are many days that I would just as soon have died when I was a child. These bastards murder the souls of children and the children will never be the same. They will go thru life with so many problems to try and deal with. It creates trust issues, self-worth issues, and we suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder for life. These bastards need to pay for the rest of their lives like we do every day of ours.
All I can say is parents please, please, please protect your children. I don't care if you have to sit with them as they use the internet every minute they are on line. Do whatever you have to do so that none of these creeps hurt your children. I beg each and every one of you parents to please supervise what your children are doing on line. They are innocent and need to stay that way while they are children. Their little lives are worth more than anything else in the world. I cannot stress this enough. Your children deserve your undivided attention when it comes to their safety. I don't want another child to suffer like I have for the past 50 years. I have suffered enough for all of the children in the world. Our government needs to wake up and start killing these pedofiles every time we catch one. They destroy lives and shouldn't be allowed to destroy more than one. This needs to be one strike and you are dead. I know it sounds harsh but if you could experience the hell I have been thru, you would understand what I am saying.
Please, Please, Please protect your little children!
A bullet? This guy doesn't deserve to go that easy.
Let him have his 30 years in the booty house. Inmates love people like this guy. The guards will let them go wild.
Telling anyone, of any age, that something might be harmful - just makes them want to check out what it is that's so taboo. Thankfully at my age, by the time I get on the computer, I always forget what crazy site it was that I was going to check out.
I want to get wild and crazy (in a fun way - not a perv way), I just forget how? If I tried to be a wild man, I'd end up on that TV show; 1000 Ways To Die.
Is it just me or is that guy literally a pig
I agree with some of the previous comments that you can't cure these people. I say we should put them all on a remote island with no food, water or supplies and let them have at it with eachother and mother nature.
white people...smh
While I agree with most here saying that this scum needs to be taken out of society, I'm curious about the article. The boys he targeted were 14-16yrs old. These are not young children. They are teenage boys, who from the articles I have read of late get involved in Sex and other things at younger and younger ages, and certainly know the score.
I guess I'm just wondering why it took so long for this person to get caught.
I hope BUBBA has a good time with this guy in prison.
Threatened to "OUT" the children.........if your going to try to be a journalist, try to use proper English.....
Way too many sex offenders out there......oh, and what ISP did he own "ConCast" ...
Castrate the bastard
I disagree...these kids left themselves wide open for this to happen. I don't understand the compulsion of some kids to take sexually explicit photos and videos and then to post them online. What on Earth are they thinking?
Our society sexualizes everything...have our kids lost their childhood, their innocence, and their self respect? That's a terrible price to pay for entertainment.
To expose themselves in this way, to open themselves up to predators, perverts and extortionists is just horrible. Everyone should be their teaching children what can happen to them if they behave so recklessly, and parents should be monitoring their internet use and discussing these issues with them, for their protection and for their dignity as human beings.
I can't stand pedophiles and I'm baffled as to why a male would want to see another male's penis.
I guess if there weren't such a ripe market for guys like Finkbiner to dip into, he would have taken up gardening instead. Where the hell are these kids' parents while they're making sex videos; why are kids even thinking it's an option to do so? And what is wrong with the youth of America that they think making underage sex videos is an acceptable pasttime for children?
I hope all the kids in the videos are identified and punished too, because if watching kiddie sex vids is wrong, so should making them be.
Worker Bee, You're absolutely correct. If an underage kid steals a car they are charged with a crime, but if they have consensual sex with an adult, which is illegal, they are not charged. This has always baffled me.
Worker Bee, I second what you said about kids making the videos. When do they have time to do that? Oh wait, in their rooms when the parents are busy doing what they want to and not be bothered by the children.
How nice to learn that we were able to get such an incredible jackash off the internet.
I hate to say it but with gays being 10% of the population it Seems well over 10% of these kind of things occur by gay guys
Scumbag. I hope he gets the 30 years.
Why are you being so kind .... ??
he's not being kind, he is following the law. just because he isn't out to see this persons blood spilled and genitals cut off, doesn't mean he agrees with what the perpatrator does.
30 Years for each offense. This dude is about to become a lifelong docking station for several thousand federal prisoners.
There is nothing worse than a child molester. The only crime that even comes close is poisoning a dog.
Off with his Tallywhacker and 50 years behind bars. Sex is great in the morning, unless you wake up in prison. He needs to bring plenty of lubricant with him though. HaHa.
I agree with castrating him. However I don't think he should be allowed any lube. His morning sex should not include lube as part of his punishment.
Castration doesn't work unfortunately. They can still get aroused.
Yes this guy is nothing but a beast and a pig, but why were these kids uploading this videos in the first place? They are not on the right track by doing this to begin with. They could even end up on this guys level someday.
Death penalty...and not 15 years from now.
Just put him in prison (general population) and let it be known what he's done. He'll have all the sex he could ever imagine and never make it out alive to do this to more kids. Watta scumbag!!!!!.
such a shame. if you're going to hack at least get money from it. and any hacker should know that if you can hack someone, they can hack you.
Bring back public stonings.
Amen to that Free Thinker....The investigation is done, the trial should commence and if found guilty I would gladly drive, at my own expense, and throw a basket full of BAR (Big Ass Rocks) at this loathsome creature...He should also have to take 10 lashes from a cane pole for every victim that comes forward in a reasonable attempt to extract a pound of flesh more or less...hopefully more.
Yay, Vigilante justice and mob rule. That's so American. And no, just because I don't want to sink to you're level does not mean this guy is innocent or that I feel sorry for him. Free thinker? Your suggestion takes no thought. Yay, let's handle everything with violence and see if it makes our society better.
Dean, as a dad with 2 sons (thankfully full grown now) I have no problem with the violence suggested. Apparently you are not a dad or you wouldn't be so worried about being "above" this level. Given the chance, I would love to take my chances with getting into a room with this guy and tell him his way to freedom is through me.
If he is not guilty then I rescind the offer. However if he is guilty, I would volunteer tomorrow and wouldn't lose a minute of sleep wondering if this was politically correct or not.
Feel free to stay above this level and talk down to us that want to end this guys existence. When you have a kid that is a victim to this kind of vermin, come back and talk to me again.
Thank you, dean. Don't listen to the violence-mongering nonsense of those who criticize you and will undoubtedly criticize me for supporting you. It is important that we do not sink to their level. It is important that we do not allow ourselves to become less than we can and should be, less than we are in the face of this kind of perversion. I'm sure it feels good for folks like Randoo to talk about his parental indignation, as if having children frees you from moral responsibility. However, if society is to ever improve it will be because individual people have chosen to become better. It will never become better through physical violence. Our world will never become better if reasonable people respond to horrible people with their own horrible behavior. When(if?) this man is found guilty, there are ways to deal with him that will prevent him from ever hurting anyone else again and will punish him for the crimes he has already committed -- without otherwise respectable people wallowing in their baser nature and doing things in their self-righteous quest for "vengeance" that makes them no better than the animal they are going after. A conviction to peace and civility means nothing in times of peace and civility -- it only matters when faced with circumstances that challenge those convictions. How you respond at times like these defines who you are. And that is the only thing you have control of in this world. I, for one, will not allow the worst of society to define who I am by stopping to their level.
dean as the mother of three....I have no problem with any number of very public punishments for a person who is convicted of exercising extortion over children. It isn't exactly mob rule here nor vigilante justice...they guy is being held by the authorities...I am so tired of the most vulnerable of our society being victimized by low scum who have no scruples. As stated I would gladly participate in a community effort to encourage vermin to leave our children alone.
Stoning to death is vigilante justice. Okay, let the judge and jury convict him and then stone him to death; which is what I believe the original poster meant.
I was a pacifist, and surprised to realize when I had children that I was capable of killing to protect them. I still have my pacifist ideal but now I understand there is a time for everything, including execution. Many will never understand, but it's actually healthy for a nation to eliminate those hell-bent on harming the future (our children) for their own gratification. That also goes for the criminals in our financial sector. Our children will feel the pain of their misdeeds for generations.
Dean is right. Despite the fact that I'm somebody who, in the first rush of anger, would like to shoot a hubcap thief if he stole *my* hubcaps, Dean is right and the rest who want punishment outside or beyond the law are wrong.
And that's it, folks.
The ONLY answer here is capital punishment. No humiliation, no long drawn out process of appeals, no mob rule, no 'let the prison system deal it's own justice', none of that. Just a calm, lethal injection to rid the world of this guy who abused people. As for this 'let the legal system handle it', the legal system is rigged to let criminals escape real punishment. It actually punishes the victims and makes victims of society. Think about it, when we give this guy a life sentence we're paying more per year to keep him than we would pay to send a kid to an ivy league school. AND, to top it off, say we give him 10+ years and decide he's 'rehabilitated', whatever that means. Where's he going to work? How will he reintegrate into society? What kind of person will he be after 10 years of 'prison justice'? What would we expect anyone to be like after 10 years of being abused by felons?
Seriously, a quick, quiet death sentence carried out sooner than later is what we need in this an many other cases. To those who say otherwise I hope your children get this kind of exploitation and your exploiter gets your recommended 'sane and humane' sentence. Also, I could only hope YOUR tax dollars alone go to house the bastard.
Saddened...I, by nature, am a very level headed and calm person (anyone who knows me would agree) and in terms of other crimes, I let the legal system do what its best at. However, again I will use MY children as my only example of the exception to me rule: If you or ANYONE ELSE did this to my kids, I would not hesitate to take you out. Crimes against children will always be a sore spot to me on most levels but if it is my children in particular? Yea...I would do what is necessary and would sleep well right afterwards. Your "Im better than that" attitude is great until it happens to you specifically. Again...this all would be only after proven guilty. Not assumed but proven.
If you want to think you are a better and more upstanding person than me...so be it. Im glad for you. I just hope you never have to go through what those parents are going through.
txmon32
I agree with you 100%. Once he is convicted he should be handed over to the fathers and grandfathers so that they can cause him a little of the pain that he inflected on his victims.
deanFromAtown
You are what is commonly known as the posterior end of an aquatic rodent’s alimentary canal. Not only are you passing judgment on people who are outraged over this piece of slime - you think that you are so
much holier than everyone else. Nope - you are the problem with America - you would have this POS be treated as if what he did was just a passing phase and allow the shrinks to put him back on the street. I turned a man over to the FBI who had a filled his hard drive with child pornography and he got 3yrs. He told everyone he was going to kill me when he got out – guess what – I still alive and he is back in jail for the same thing. This POS needs to be removed from society once and for all. As a grandfather I am more
than willing to help kill the POS.
I just want address all this "violence". I dare you to try and harm a baby cub in front of it's lioness mother, what do you thinks gonna' happen, that lioness is going to rip your face off. Here's the thing people whom don't have kids. When you poss a threat to any biological organism's offspring, ALL BETS ARE OFF, rationale is out the window, fight or flight kicks in, and there is only one response. PERIOD... I hope that no parent ever has to deal with such things, however should the situation ever present itself, YOU WILL ACT ACCORDINGLY!, and without thought, or reason. Every fiber of your existence will stop at nothing to destroy the threat to your children, even at the cost of your own life. Trust me... A good example of this just happened the other day, where a father was gunned down while he shielded his son from bullets. So in all do respect, let the courts run their course, and when/if he is found guilty, turn him over to the parents, and let nature take it's own course.
Sovereign.D....You are spot on with your expression of nature.
I am constantly stupefied how those without children and even some of those with children will neglect the most base priority of being a parent and crimes involving children. Our children need to know they are safe in their homes and communities. It seems for those of you who have risen above the rest of us and wish to treat even the lowest of creatures, who would imprint fear, mistrust and shame on children. These filthy bottom feeders take pleasure in exercising their dominance over children who do not have the coping skills to deal with such threat and violent attack. When a child is attacked or abused or violated as an adult, parent, child advocate I know it is important to instill in children that there is no room in a polite and loving society for those who would creep into the safe zones of a child. It is to our society to first meet the needs of a victim...above all else meet the needs of a victim. These children will forever be scarred by this cretin and in order to show children that they do come first and no one is afforded grace or civility if their intent has violated the safety of home or community a child when the horrors of that abuse can play over and over in their day and night mares...
There are some really horrible people in this world who will abuse children, hurt children, sell them into bondage and repeatedly tear away at their little hearts because they some how feel they are "above" the rest of us and can pretty much get away with anything.....If we wish to be a greater society and elevate our community above the fray then we must address those who would tear away at the very soul of our society by inflicting hurts on our most vulnerable. We must expel them from our existence in order to assure our children that their safety is so much more important to our greater good than the existence of a human virus in our midst.
For those of you with such compassion for the criminal and a fleeting concern for his victims....rest assured there are children who will still not come forward because of embarrassment or shame inflicted by this POS...let him be held to a public display of humiliation, degradation and punishment so that those who haven't the fortitude to come forward can sleep at night knowing that this filthy pedophile will not creep into their dreams any longer.
Compassion should be reserved for the innocent victims not the adult with intent to violate them.
this is a creepie ignorant man!!he needs to stay in prison.
end his pain and that of children "Castrate"him and all of those sexuall offenders of children and men who rape women!!!
I agree with Sandra! This planet is not short on humans. I also believe in the death penalty. i feel that any human willing to do terrible things to another human being, especially a child, deserves to get their reproductive rights taken away permanently. Why don't we castrate the pedophiles? Reproduction should be a privilege, not a right!!!!!
Reproduction a PRIVILEGE !!! are you insane, or Chinese... Come on now, so the very survival and existence of the species should be governed by an oversight panel. You want to talk about slippery slope politics, Oh wait you probably support universal healthcare, and are looking out for your own A$$ huh? WOW!!!
I have a 15 year old girl and a 14 year old boy and would like to have 5 minutes behind the wood shed with this piece of crap to show him what a Marine can do to fix his problem.
Attn: Stupid Teenagers - stop making videos of yourself or taking naked pictures.
You are absolutely right on Micky M!! Not that what this idiot did was right, but why put yourselves into a situation.
Don't you mean Attn: Stupid parents stop giving your kids web cams and unsupervised access to the internet
Attention: STUPID PARENTS, do not let your "innocent little angels" roam the internet alone. There are a lot of creepy people out there.
So true Micky! The rule of thumb is, don't put something on the internet that you don't want millions of people to see, same goes for the phone, any videos or pictures. These kids where silly for doing that but that man is disgusting for his actions, I hope he gets a long stay in prison with lots of inmates to 'befriend' him. Parents need to watch what their children do on the internet as well as give them limited access to places. Parent first, friend after.
Yeah, the kids haven't suffered enough or learned that lesson the hard way.. buy hey.. way to blame the victim. And no way you can take into account that they are kids and he is an adult.. still not his fault right..
Micky, i sent you those pictures like you asked me to. Now leave me alone!!
You hit the nail on the head buddy, what the hell is 14 year old boys doing naked on the internet any way. Parents teach your kids a little COMMON sense please!!
Sheila, 14 is plenty old enough to know right and wrong. Yes I'm sure their hormones are playing hackysack with the logical part of the brain but if you walk into a bees nest you should expect to get stung a little. This man is at fault for his disgusting actions, but if the kids hadn't posted themselves nude on the internet they wouldn't be in this horrible situation.
Again I think I need to be clear here for you, I'm not in any way excusing his actions or taking any blame away from him. Personally I do think that parents shouldn't allow their children webcams and should monitor their children as well as educate them on the dangers of internet predators.
Sheila, what he did was his fault. What they did was theirs. While that shouldn't diminish his punishment, if he wasn't given the opportunity, there wouldn't be victims.
Don't blame the kids. They are still just "kids". They do know right from wrong, however little boys love to show off their ding-a-lings. Hell, big boys too!
realistic mom, yes you have to blame the kids because even a four year old knows right from wrong. If kids are that stupid, it is from a lack of hometraining from the parents.
Creepy white guy........ This is how they think.
Oh dont' even try to make this a racist issue, I dont' care what color you are this is wrong...bottom line!
What this guy did is totally wrong, if he did it, but shall we have him convicted prior to cutting things off and shooting him rather than being the lynch mob most of you sound like? Now my second thing..What abot the parents...One person states that a 14 yo does not know right from wrong while another states that his 8 yo has been trained to use a gun and kill if necessary...Which I highly doubt, He also stated that he himself was doing porn at 16 and is retired at 32..does he consider being in prison being retired? Anyway my point is I monitored my kids and TAUGHT them right from wrong...and never laid a hand on any of them...Parents should be doing that same thing...you can still be a friend and you know what ..friends make sure other friends do the right thing.
Marlo, thank you for proving my point. Parental involvement is the key.
This reminds me of rich club in Europe countries where they used children to fight one another. In some case, it also reveals that some of those fights resulted to death in a high stake fight.
Totally disgusting to think people like that and in this article really exists.
The real shame here is that he had victims to exploit. Kids need to know to go to an adult with this sort of thing, and that they will not be punished for being a victim. Sure they shouldn't be putting that sort of stuff online to begin with, but they are kids and it is up to their parents to monitor their online lives. Of course this does not in any way begin to excuse the perpetrator of these crimes and he should be chemically and physically castrated without benefit of pain medication or sanitary medical facilities and left to die from infection, once he has been proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
Hang him by his Balls!!
what a Fricking Finkbiner he is!
Throw him in the DARKEST CELL and throw the KEYS AWAY!
i was thinking... wood chipper...
Feet first, bob.
How sick! Only 30 years?! That's not long enough...
What is really sick is he will only get 5 - 8 years at most.
Not in federal prison. Minimum 90% of sentence, no exceptions.
He could get 60 years under Indiana pediphile laws and have to serve 50%. 50% of 60 years is > 90% of 30 years!
Hey, Bebop-753206....frankly I think he looks like the BTK killer Dennis Raider
I don't care what they say- weirdo's do actually look weird
Stick a web cam in his cell. Guy looks like the chubby one from Deliverance. Get ready to squealllll!!!!!
You would probably be the first to watch also...YOU SICKO!
I hope this monster enjoys being played with by the prisoners in PMITA lockup.
PIG! 30 years is not enough.
I wonder if he's going to cry like a Bitch when that big ole Convict slaps him??This dudes ANUS will be streched out when he comes outta prison..
"This dudes ANUS will be streched out when he comes outta prison"
jealous?
If her gets out. Don't see him being able to live the 30 years
He even looks like a pig. Kind of like Henry Waxman.
i hope mr. finkhomo likes catching because he sure wont be doing any pitching where he is going.
This is disgusting in all accounts, albeit not surprising. There are probably hundreds if not thousands of others doing stuff like this out there. This is not to negate the fact this guy should be punished severely obviously. However, parents need to monitor the online activities of their children, consistently. I have a family member who is a teenager that within the last couple years it was determined was communicating with a guy on facebook who was sending her nude photos and they were messaging each other. Come to find out this guy was like in his 40's. Again, she has essentially unmonitored access to the internet. I know it is nearly impossible to monitor every move a child makes, but this kind of thing happens way too often and many times has tragic consequences.
This guy really needs a good friend in Leavenworth help him with his insecurities.