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Subscribe to RSSA 5-year-old Connecticut boy found bags of heroin inside a jacket he had taken to school and showed them to his kindergarten classmates, the school superintendent said Tuesday. The boy's stepfather, 35-year-old Santos Roman, was later arrested after he went to the school to retrieve the jacket. WVIT-TV's Amy Parmenter reports.
BRIDGEPORT, Conn. -- A 5-year-old boy found dozens of bags of heroin inside a jacket he had taken to school and showed them to his kindergarten classmates, the school superintendent said Tuesday.
Bridgeport Superintendent Paul Vallas said he believes the boy took his stepfather's jacket to school on Monday without knowing the drugs were inside it.
"Children bring to school what they find at home," he said.
Citing police, the Connecticut Post reported the boy took 50 packets of heroin out when it came time for a show-and-tell presentation. But Vallas told The Associated Press the boy only waved the heroin around after finding it in his jacket and didn't formally present the packets to the class.
The boy's stepfather, 35-year-old Santos Roman, went to the school and recovered the jacket, but police had already seized the drugs, officials said. He was arrested when he returned to the school after apparently discovering the heroin was missing, Vallas said.
The Connecticut Post reported that the boy was in custody of the state's Department of Children and Families while authorities looked for other family members.
Bail set at $100,000
Roman was arrested on risk of injury to a minor and drug charges. He appeared Tuesday in Bridgeport Superior Court and was ordered held on $100,000 bail. He wasn't available to comment from jail, and there was no phone number listed for his home address.
The Department of Children and Families placed the boy in the custody of his grandmother, even though his mother went to the school to take him home, Vallas said.
Vallas praised the reactions of the teacher who initially noticed the drugs, worth about $500 on the street, and of others involved in the response.
"I think everybody operated like clockwork," he said.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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where's Mom?
Mom was probably to stoned on heroin to know what was going on. What I find odd is how a five year old kid ended up taking his stepfather's jacket to school. I somehow doubt that part of the story, particularly since it is only conjecture on the part of the school superintendent. My guess is that the stepfather had put the drugs in the kids jacket to hide them and forgot to retrieve them before the kid headed to school. The stepfather probably had the kid with him while he was out dealing drugs or had purchased the drugs and was using the kid as a mule in case he got stopped by the police. Then when he got home he probably forgot to take them out of the kid's jacket pocket and the kid left for school, maybe the next day, with the drugs still in his pocket. The fifty small bags sure sounds like the stepfather had the drugs packaged for sale and I hope they nail him for possession with intent to distribute. I am just glad that none of the kids decided to sample what as in the bags before the teacher got a hold of them. Had the kids decided to taste test what was in the bags, as little kids would often do, the results could have been tragic.
"I think everybody operated like clockwork,"
All except the mindless step dad.
The mom came to get her boy after Child Services placed the boy under custody of his grandparents. Read the story again.
As to this article in general, I have one thing to say; PARENTING FAIL!
How to prove your really stupid....do or sell drugs. How to prove your really really stupid. He just did. Hope they throw the book at him. The big metal and sharply angled book, thrown at about 100 mph.
Tell that to Astra-Zeneca.
So if my kid goes to school with heroin, I'm a bad parent. If I go to school screaming, "Give me back my heroin" I'm a dealer? So many rules.
Where is the real father? Apparently the mother picked 2 losers!
Spell "you're" as "your".
Do it twice.
some girl brought her 'my little pony'...and the boy brought his horse...for show and tell...
WOW! With that kind of conjecture, you could work for Fox News!
MSG.....you will have a lot of real suffering medical patients doing without medicines, not to mention a lot of big pharmaceutical companies asking for compensation for your slander...and wishing violence on someone is a sign YOU may need to be medicated...if not just detained for observation as a potential threat to society.
Mom was probably too busy turning tricks so dad could buy that much heroin.
best thing that happened to this boy, apparently.
WMG-21,
"Tell that to Astra-Zeneca."
Right! Or tell it to any of the other drug pushers on television.
How to prove your really stupid
Spell "you're" as "your".
How to prove your really really stupid.
Do it twice.
LOL! XD
Well, returning to school for your missing heroin does, in fact, beat this by a long shot.
Cold turkey now...bet it is a bitch in jail
Chris, you and Derek need to get a life! you go around correcting spelling errors and it makes you feel better to put the person down for not using "proper grammar" who are you to judge? you are no better then the fu**ing FCC losers!
Oh, relax, james. It was funny and it really isn't that big a deal either way. I don't pick too much on people's spelling. But a joke is a joke and its funny.
@ Chris-629698
How to prove your really really really stupid.
When you correct someone on spelling or grammar and you're incorrect as well.
Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks, even inside single quotes.
Chris-629698 wrote; Spell "you're" as "your".
The correct way; Spell "you're" as "your."
I cant understand why people use stories like this to put each other down and make jokes at someone else's expense. maybe a joke is a joke but some people really dont think its funny. This is a Serious problem in this country with this kind of problem and the people who make light of it and make jokes about it are a big factor to the problem. Heroin is NOT made by astra zenica so why make the comparison...one has Nothing to do with the other!!!!
james-3357762 and HALO Jumper LOVE IT!!!!!!!!
HALO Jumper - If you truly want to be a punctuation nazi, then you have to take into consideration that British rules for punctuation differ from American rules.
The British rule is – place the comma and period inside the quotation marks if they are part of the quoted material, otherwise place them outside.
I will totally forgive someone's punctuation if they give up heroin, or at least get themselves out of a house with kids if they are going to use it.
I would also like to add the following: .,.,.,.!!!?!?!??!..,, @#!
the stepfather will allege the little kid, was muling for some drug pusher, since the jacket would be way to large for a very young child; so the stuff was in the kids jacket, got to teach these young kids a trade at a early age, story does not explain if the step -father or mother are employed ,on welfare, illegal immigrants , or what;
Spelling, grammar, and punctuation are not relevant on the Internet (notice the capitalization, buttwad), unless you are a glue sniffing putz with a fragile ego. TTFN losers.
Crying shame, MSG(retired) implies that he is a Retired Master Sergeant. The British army does not have a rank as Master Sergeantster Sergeant since Chris-629698 is quoting someone from the US, "The British rule" would not apply. It was a far reach. Nice try but epic fail.
Halo - What is a Master Sergeantster Sergeant? And why didn't you capitalize Army?
Halo, periods always go outside of quotation marks...You're ending a sentence, whether it's with or without a quotation.
As for this story...another sad parenting fail in the US. What else is new??
KO, incorrect. It "seems" as though a period or ending punctuation should go outside the quotation marks, but check any grammar site (or citation format site) and you will see it goes inside. I've been typing legal briefs for about 25 years, and while this rule drives me insane, it is correct.
As to the ongoing fever about grammar, for those of you who feel it is overkill consider this: What one practices becomes part of one's permanent habits, and also those of society. We have lost so much by "dumbing down" our culture and it shows up in our civility towards one another, our economy, etc. Plus, usually those who criticize can't spell or punctuate well and it's just a sore subject!
Like Father like Son, like Mother like Daughter.
How do you like that? Here is a guy trying to exercise his entrepreneurial exploits as a free-lance pharmacist by marketing unprescribed medications and the government quashes his thriving business.
I'm guessing the govenrment would rather have people fully deplete their 99 weeks of government support and roll that into a lifetime of subsidies.
"Spelling, grammar, and punctuation are not relevant on the Internet (notice the capitalization, buttwad), unless you are a glue sniffing putz with a fragile ego. TTFN losers."
Big Trouble, unfortunately, you are correct. Correctly spelling a word just isn't important to people. Using a spell-checker doesn't count, by the way, because it still means a person cannot spell. But then, intelligence isn't considered relevant on the internet (notice it ISN'T capitalized), either.
It's a sad time in America when education and accuracy "jus' ain't impotent" anymore.
To the story: I'm in ageement with a some previous posts. It seems the jacket in question must have been the boy's, not the step-father's. And, um, this wasn't apparent to the principle? (Notice the preposition at the beginning of the sentence.)
Wow JS in SD......Way to manufacture your own news. That was awesome. You can probably get a job with NBC making up their news stories. I mean, you know what the man did and who was with him when he bought the drugs. What happened after he brought the drugs home. You know that despite the report it was actually the child's own jacket and the child was used as a mule. You know what the mother was doing and you know her mental state despite the story stating that the mother went to pick up the child but the child was released to the Grandmother. I love it......someone who knows it all and can take the rubbish in the original story and tell us what really happened. Keep up the good work.
@HALO Jumper: You are actually wrong, at least as far as English grammar and punctuation goes. I have known this but I thought I would share since there seems to have been a bit of a debate about it.
When a question mark or an exclamation point appears at the end of a quotation, put it inside the quotation mark if it belongs to the quotation:
But if the question mark or exclamation point does not belong to the quotation itself, put it outside the quotation mark:
A good Defense Attorney will get him off of these charges. First of all to many hands on the coat before Stepdad comes after it, to many hands could have been on it before child finds and presents Heroin. All Stepdad has to do is say, I realized my coat was missing and child took it by mistake, I don't know anything about the Heroin.
I had a case very much like this once, the guy walked.
So its OK to say your,anyway,
like I said what makes Granny so much better.
I don't expect great grammar. But I do expect people to be intelligent enough to CARE about using decent grammar and AT LEAST the correct words. Errors such as you're/your or their/they're/there are mistakes all too common these days, and it is reflective on the overall dumbing down of our society.
The fact that people act like grammar doesn't matter and anyone who makes corrections is a jerk only throws fuel onto the flames and stigmatizes those who give a damn. It's the 'ignorant = cool' mentality. Yes, some grammar nazis go over the top. But the CONSTANT mistake of 'your' being used intead of the contraction of YOU and ARE really does need to be addressed.
It's not just an 'oops' mistake for most people, or a typo.... if someone does it consistently it's because they DON'T KNOW the right way to do it. Where else will it be addressed? It's obviously not being taught in school anymore.
We might as well skip to the chase and just start typing everything like we text on the phone. Idiocracy in the flesh. "Uhh, Hey?! Why are you tryin' to read that word? What are you, a fag or somethin'?"
I would have handled this much differently if I were the teacher. After the bags fell out, I would have grabbed them and sprinted to the nearest bathroom with a spoon, a lighter, and a syringe from the nurse's office.....and then flushed the drugs down the toilet...yeah, honestly!!!
Shuklack,
"DON'T KNOW the right way to do it". Should be, 'DON'T KNOW the right way to [use] it'. If you're going to correct mistakes, watch what you do. See, you are using correct grammer and english, not doing correct grammer and english.
"Mom was probably too busy turning tricks so dad could buy that much heroin."
DING! DING! DING! We have a winner! Hey Johnny, tell 'em what they've won...........
:-P
CBurroughs:
What is "grammer"?
And what are you even saying??
There definitely is a problem when people have lost the ability to clearly communicate...
Where's mom? Good question, I have to ask that myself. I find it interesting how groups like NOM, Focus on the Family, the religious right, the republicans, and those filthy tea baggers blame the break down of the family on the gays, yet, here we are with another story of just very poor parenting. I sometimes wonder if people should be licensed to breed.
Greattt....turn the kid back over to the woman who is married to a herion user/dealer/whatever. She OBVIOUSLY is making good parenting choices...(sarcasm!)
It would appear from this story that the grandmother didn't exactly do a good job of raising her daughter. So why place the child with the grandmother?
Good qwuestion Rontron, but there's some answers. Unless the grandmother has been proven to be knowing or participant in this all, she's still a better option than the public system. The grandmother will likely be checked out too, for making sure her household isn't going to lead to the same situation.
Kids get taken care of the most, as a generalization, by family members who have an incentive to care. You can see it is obvious that some parents aren't worthy of the title. But the court isn't just acting on a whim. Its based in the history of these things.
Oh, for the love of god, just go out and buy Strunk and White's "Elements of Style" and be done with it...
Shuklack: When using its for the contraction of it is, there is no apostrophe...jus' sayin'. :)
In fact, you may want to run your entire post through word, just for giggles :)
oops. Got that wrong :P Something is the matter with MY word program. My bad :)
Those of you saying the jacket had to be the boys...keep in mind they also said it was "show and tell" and even if it wasn't, I know plently of people whose children wear their sweatshirts, jackets, hats, etc. It was a step dad fail who obviously doesn't know how to be a parent. Get this man out of this child's life! It seems to me the boy was familiar enough with the drugs he was not concerned they were in the pocket if he was just "waving them around". That tells me the parents have the drugs out in front of the boy quite often. .... smh, get that boy to a real family!
Surprise.....anyone up for a quick heroine hit! How dumb is this father and just HOW did he manage to be a father when he's all heroined up. Dah!
Obviously he did not manage, Jean.
He is a STEPDAD Jean, look it up.
First, he's the STEPfather.
Second, becoming a father is the easiest thing in the word. Sadly, it's easier to do the less responsible you are.
ugh
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The article didn't state he was doing it. He was definitely dealing, users don't have 50 packets of Heroin sitting around.
Please don't give this kid back to his mother! She must have known what lover boy was up to!
Many of the child abuse and child endangerment cases would not happen if mothers took better care in selecting who they share their bed/home with. This so-called stepfather is no parent, step or otherwise.
I accidentally hit post when editing. The following is what I intended to say;
Crying shame, MSG(retired) implies that the original poster is a retired Master Sergeant in either the United States Army, Air Force or Marines. The British army does not have the rank of Master Sergeant so we can assume the original poster is from the United States.
Since Chris-629698 is quoting someone from the US, and an article composed in the US "the British rule" would not apply. Chris is most likely from the US since an article written about an incident that happened in Connecticut, USA and would mean little or nothing to the people of Britain if published in the UK.
It was a far reach. Nice try but epic fail.
For the record, I could care less about spelling or grammar in any forum. In my opinion, people whom have nothing to add will often resort to this tactic.
Case in point, read the following;
I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdgnieg.
You can still understand what the text is trying to say even though 8 words were spelled incorrect.
@ whiskeyfire, if you read further down from the post (above) you are referencing you will see the reason for the error in the paragraph in regard to Master Sergeant.
The proper name for the British army is Her Majesty's Armed Forces, so Forces is capitalized, but if we use the word “army” to refer to the Her Majesty's Armed Forces, you do not capitalize army.
@ KO and AlaskaGirl, you are both wrong! Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks, even inside single quotes. AlaskaGirl, you are using a question mark in your example. I am referencing a period, not a question mark or other punctuation mark other than periods and commas.
Maybe MSG stood for monosodium glutamate, and that he retired, or stopped using it.
People get WAY off topic in here!
cheers to the mom, for picking the best male role model for her son. I just hope she hasn't procreated anymore godforsaken children. People like these make me wish we had forced sterilization in this country.
I think thetruthwillalwayssetyoufree is on to something. It could also stand for Marine Security Guard, Mob Squad Gangstas, My Summer Guy, Machine Shot Gun, Mexican Slut Guy or Mmmm! So Good. One could be a retiree from some of these.
I would bank that it is Master Sergeant (Retired).
Whenever I see "MSG", I always think of monosodium glutamate, that's just me, but the possibilities are endless! Thanks for the giggles!
Anytime...
HALOJumper you are a riot...thanks for the laughs :)
@ thetruthwillalwayssetyoufree...I think the same thing too when I see MSG :)
Hahahaha, glad I'm not the only one! I think I eat too much Chinese food!
Now thats what I call Karma.
God at work......
Uh, yeah... Sure.
Best thing that could have happened given the circumstances.
Haha, busted by his own step-kid.
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I am so grateful that this child, nor any other children, had ingested the herion. Lil plastic baggies . . . I would almost think the kids would think it was possibly a sweet. I would ask "then how would the step-father feel" but to me it is apparent HE DOES FEEL if he is leaving these items ( whether it be in a jacket or not ) in areas that are easy for the child to get too . . . .
It's a hell of a lot more interesting than gardening equipment or vacation mementos.
And he brought samples.
The boy took the stepdad's jacket by mistake? Huh? How would a 35 year old man's jacket fit a 5 year old child?
read the very first post, its a good explanation.
When I was a kid we used to like to play "dress up" and wear our parents clothing.
Aggie. You are not a mom evidently. My twin granddaughters when they were in 7th grade and weighed about 75 pounds wanted pro football jackets. You know the big well padded kinds. One wanted Bronocs and one wanted Packers. The hands hit about the elbows and hung down to their knees. Wonderful sight to see. One day one of the girls started out the door with heels and a blouse of mine.
Nope definitely you are not a mom.
And straight people get all worked up when a gay couple want to raise a child! That's one foolish idea!!
A gay couple would not be as unsafe as this "parent" when THEIR child was doing a show & tell at his/her school.
Hey; gay-haters, want to defend marriage? Don't allow Kardashians to marry and keep fools like this guy from having access to an innocent child. Allow gay people to marry and they would not have problems compared to this irresponsible "parent".
Straight people do more damage to the sacrament of marriage than gay people could EVER do!!
Because gays don't do drugs or any other crimes? You watch too much TV.
I'm straight, and so it's my fault that you can't raise a kid, and that this moron let a child get a hold of heroin? Cause you sound like you're lumping all straight people into the same 'homophobic/heroin laying around where kids can get it' pot.
Try demonstrating the behavior you want to see in others, if you want to be taken seriously. For example, you're gay right? Well, then I blame you for spreading AIDS. See how that works to make me sound like an idiot? So, stop taking broad swipes at people based on the actions of a few. You might actually get taken seriously once you've honed your ideas into something a little more thoughtful.
1Foolish-Idea ~~ I do understand (and I agree with) the essence of what you are trying to articulate, although it didn't come across very eloquently. It indeed does seem that oftentimes CPS is very neglient in their duties in cases such as this, while at the same time, people put up a stink about a single person, or a gay couple who want to have or adopt a child, when the home they would offer, could be a safe loving environment.
There are many 'natural' parents who can barely take care of a stray cat, and who's children are exposed to very dangerous elements, who are neglected and abused both physically and emotionally. I AM NOT against any couple, gay or straight, who have a desire to raise a child. It's human instinct, and desire, regardless of whether you are gay or straight. ANY HOUSEHOLD who nurtures and loves a child, and teaches them tolerance, discipline, respect and compassion is a good household.
I'm very happy that this child is now safe, and I hope that he can be placed in a loving household, until (and if ever) his mother can get her act together. Nothing was said about her in this article, but she can't have her head screwed on too straight if she's with this man who either is a heroin addict, or a dealer, or both.
1Foolish-Idea, As a gay man, veteran, and father, I think you are making the right point for the wrong reasons. We deserve to be parents not because we are better than straight parents, but because we are equal to them.
this has nothing to do with sexual orientation.....I'm all for gay marriage.....why should we be the only miserable ones
JFC: Now THAT is funny...
What would possess you to pick this story, of all stories, to push for gay rights? I wasn't aware that gay people weren't raising children. So you know, I have no problem with gay people raising kids. What I care about is kids in general, their health, safety and their welfare, and I don't care if you are purple with yellow polka dots, as long as you're taking good care of your kids, I have no issue, no one should have an issue.
Jeff was absolutely right when he said you're taking a broad swipe at all straight parents. Let's see how you do when you're given the green light to marry though. Melissa Etheridge didn't last but a year or two, Rosie O'Donnell's kids come from a broken home now.... I realize these are celebs, but they haven't exactly helped your "we'll do marriage better than anyone" cause. So if you don't like to be lumped into this group, don't lump all straight parents into the bad parent category just because of moronic stepfathers like this guy.
Wow, you just came in here swinging... slow down a bit... you'll find you have more friends than you realize. Peace, love and Bobby Sherman.
Sorry, I am all for gay rights but this comment has no place here. This is what a lot of people who despise gays are talking about, even people, like myself who are sympathetic to the cause are sick of the subject of gay rights showing up in every single conversation. Someone even brought it up during an article about a meat recall, enough already. Yes some gays do make good parents, some, like some straight people, do not. Your comment is pointless.
My brother was gay, and I loved him to death, but I wouldn't have let him raise my cat! Being gay doesn't automatically mean you're going to be a good parent!
Getting a little off topic, what say?
Take your, "I'm gay and abused" story somewhere else... that post was just ridiculous.
and to all of you punctuation and grammar peeps out there, it is "your" not "you're" (in my case)... hahahaha
@Bogart
COMPLETELY agree. This could have had a very tragic outcome for a lot of little kids. Thankfully this child, who did not know any better, didn't do anything except "wave them around."
Even more thankfully, this child will be put into a proper home situation, with proper adult supervision who show genuine care for him.
These types of stories make me appreciate that my son is a upstanding 11 year old boy who is growing up to be a very respectful young man who makes appropriate decisions. I am even more thankful that when he has any questions, he asks his mother or I for an answer (even if that question is of a "difficult" nature).
Actually, under Child Protective Services (CPS), children are five times more likely to die from physical abuse and 11 times more likely to be sexually abused than in their own homes.
Mike, where did you get those stats?
The stats are available through Child and Family Services; the numbers Mike quoted may not be exact as it has been some time since I last looked into it but the meaning is the same. Children are often times more severely abused in the foster care system than they were in their home. A LOT of foster "parents" are in the program for the money rather than for the children. It isn't the rainbows and sun shine system that people like to believe.
The only people that have to believe that it is perfect is the people administering the program. But it is not a matter of believing in its perfect but more a matter of control over the situation. As long as they believe that the child is "better off" that is all that really matters.
Wow! In the picture this guys head is actually pointed!
Says it all.
Santos "Zippy" Roman.
disabled: HAHAHAHA, I had to go back and look - sure 'nuff he does indeed have a pointy head!
"WOW" 5yr old i hope his mom is clean
Would like to think so, but if you hang out with losers, odds are good you are one too. Seriously, nice role model she's given her kid.
I hope so much you're wrong Lisa.... this poor kid... breaks my heart, because he'll remember this.
I was being sarcastic on the last sentence. This kid would probably be raised better by wolves.
Lisa, I think they meant they hope you were wrong about the mother prob being a loser too. I agree though, I would hope it's just guilt by association & that the mother is decent, but what kind of decent person marries a man who does and/or sells heroin & allows said person around her small child(ren)?? And I agree, the boy would prob be better off almost anywhere. Hopefully his grandparents are decent & will raise him & give him the life he deserves. So sad.
Yes by all means legalize drugs. These drug problems really hinder the cops time writing tickets
wrong, if the drugs are legalized and regulated it wouldnt be any different than alcohol or cigarrettes. i.e. no drug dealers and the profits (taxes) could be used for better purposes.
Two points:
1) Aside from Ron Paul I haven't heard anyone advocating for the legalization of heroin.
2) Actually, were it legal (which I don't agree with, but stay with me here), this little incident wouldn't have happened. When is the last time you heard of a 5 year old bringing a bottle of Jack Daniels to school for show and tell?
greg berry: Quit driving around like a fool and you won't get citations. Don't blame others for your ignorant decisions. Time to take personal responsibility and be accountable for your big-boy choices. Hard concept, I know..., but it will save you a lot of court appearances.
agreed greenbeagle; I've been driving for over 20 years and have never been pulled over by those nasty cops that are out to get me- my car must be invisible......
greenbeagle13 & Just aMom----drive a station wagon. No one ever suspects the station wagon.....
Especially, those old station wagons with the faux wood panels on the sides.
You are so wrong there JM. Do a search for LEAP or L.E.A.P. which stands for Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. There site which almost all members are current or Ex Law Enforcement. I'm talking Judges, police, Police Chiefs, DAs and more.
Here is a sample for you. well as long as MSNBC does not take it down
youtube.com/watch?v=LayaGk0TMDc
I said:
Then you said:
I don't think I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure *I* haven't heard other people advocate for the legalization of heroin. If you say there are people out there calling to legalize heroin, then I'll take your word for it and I stand corrected.
Point being that I don't think there is as widespread support to decriminalize the harder drugs as there is for pot (which I wholeheartedly support).
JM-1992894
baby steps. After pot is legalized, we'll see the benefits of it and then decide to legalize the harder drugs. Then we can end this costly & pointless drug war that only makes the cartels rich and bigger government.
The 5-year old boy was actually a Latino midget trying to hook more American children on Mexican heroin.
I like to study the mugshots toward the goal of being better able to avoid mutants, for sure . . .
For sure! :-o
as an addict who has 6 hours left at work before i can shoot again, this story has given me an erection that could cut diamonds
That's why I always have some acid handy to take off the edge.
take some with u next time. if ur that much of an addict, u can function at work!
Stinkleton: Dude, if you were trying to be all funny and stuff, you failed - miserably. Obviously you heard someone say that (probably had to write it down) and giggled like a little girl (sorry girls). Ummm, it isn't funny to a grown up, maybe a 9 year old, but not to big people. Don't quit your day job...
The odd thing, greenbeagle, is that if he is just trying to be funny he failed. If he actually is telling the truth then it is kind of funny because there is a bit of irony in not only what he said but the way he said it and the circumstances in which it was said.
Since I don't know if it is true or not, I just take it at face value and chuckle a little bit.
No, not trying to be funny. No, never heard anyone say it. Never wrote it down (nor giggled whilst doing so). I can't quit my day job.
Childhood obesity is becoming a problem.
Stupid druggies.
Yeah, we should shoot them, right?
I'd loved to have seen the step father's face when he found out who took his jacket ...and where.
I hope a responsible adult or social services will take charge of the child. It sounds like the mother is not exactly a guardian of her child's safety.
Face may have been a sight but I'll bet he had to change his underwear before leaving the house.
ewwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <wiping my eyes with my fist to try to erase the visual>
Hopefully the grandmother is smart enough to keep this kid away from his mother and stepfather. Since the mother was not allowed to take custody; she either is hooked on heroin herself or she was that desperate to marry a man to help raise her kid that it didn't matter to her. She obviously had to know that he was into this stuff and yet she still let him around her son. She deserved to lose custody of her kid.
@Denise - Jump to conclusions much? The article fails to state that the mother was using or either the step-dad for that matter. Why would marrying this man make her desperate? You would be suprised at some of the people that are addicts. Teachers, Doctors, Lawyers, Police, and so on. Addicts come in all shapes and sizes and many of them are very good people that are productive within society. Many addicts are functioning and hold jobs and pay taxes just like you. Many people that fall into this group are able to hide their addiction from even those closest to them, so I don't see how it's so obvious that she knew what he was into. Oh and the article never stated that she lost custody of her son, simply that they wouldn't allow her to pick him up from school. You shouldn't be so quick to judge people, especially when your judgment is based on your imagination, not facts
Being just an addict and being an addict/drug dealer or even just dealer are different things. No heroin addict has 50 bags of heroin lying around if they're not dealing. He was obviously dealing, and if he's that careless to leave it in the kids jacket, or let the kid wonder off with his jacket (if that was indeed the case) he's probably not bothering to cover up his tracks. If the mother had absolutely no clue what was going on I'd be extremely surprised.
@I see you looking at me, I was thinking the same thing! How did he fit into the jacket and, whats really scary, how did a 5 year old know what herion is? Seriously?
It's quite possible he may not have known about the heroin. The child likely took the jacket to school, inadvertently found the packets inside (not understanding what was in them, of course), and proceeded to show them to his friends.
I could be completely wrong as well, but the chances are that this child was simply innocent in his understanding of the heroin.
Ok, everyone is going to laugh at me, but I'm in my 40's and if I had heroin in MY pockets? *I* wouldn't know what it is... I know next to nothing about this drug, other than you inject it. If these children had somehow opened one of the packets and gotten on their skin, would that have hurt them? Like I said, I know nothing about drugs really, so I was just wondering.
Ok, dumb question number two? I don't get the "the guy even has a pointed head" thing. No laughing!
It seems that, according to the article, the boy took the stepfathers jacket to school for show-and-tell. When it was his turn for show-and-tell the boy found the packets in the jacket and waved some of them around.
Truth, there is a congenital medical cond'n called microcephaly, literally "little brain". These pts do tend to develop pointed skulls, &, not surprisingly, mental retardation.
There also is a cartoon character named Zippy the Pinhead, prone to non sequiturs & truly strange twists of logic (that's the best way I can describe him, somebody help me out here). Zippy is a benign & pleasant fellow, though, nothing like this drug dealer. Zippy would never deal drugs.
Thank you bubbacat... over my head that one went hahaha.
Well Truth people don't only inject it but they also snort it. Getting it on ones skin may not present a problem unless the child then licked that spot. Had the child licked it then it most likely would have induced vomiting and then most likely overdose even from a tiny amount. Another danger would be if a packet came open and while waving it, it became airborne. A child close by(heroin hitting such child) or the one waving it could inhale it. It would usually only take a small amount for a person of that age and size to cause major harm or death. Even worse would be a child thinking it was say powered candy and tasted it. First off the kid would know it was not candy, most likely vomit but even the amount that could be injested or even through osmosis(through the gums, tongue or any lining of the mouth) could cause death or near death. There is one of the most potent pain killers out there which is also many times found in "killer heroin" called fentanyl. Fentanyl is administered through a patch, lollipop, or a tiny pill that breaks down like alka seltzer. This drug is introduced to the body through osmosis and even a tiny amount can kill a child.
You would also be very surprised at waht age kids these days get introduced to drugs, in some schools even kindergarten classes get a vist from the local DARE cop toting his case of tricks. They even want the young kids to tell on mom, dad ,uncle, aunt, brother, sister, etc. if they see these drugs or even a bong or funny pipe. Problem with doing this is it peaks a kids curiosity and some kids may then want to try it and even search for it. A case to point out how this can go wrong happened to my brother many years ago. A neighbors son saw my brother rolling a cigg. He rolled his own using Drum tobacco. Well this kid told his teacher who informed the police which in turn broke down his door. Sitting on the table was the Drum tobacco with rolling papers. Well the cops then seperated his kids and terrorized them about how they were going to go to jail if they did not tell, questioned and intergated them(ages 7 and 9) without a perent present. Flaunted the papers as paraphernalia and even arrested him with just the papers for child endangerment and several other crocked up charges. Well after much cost, his name and mug shot plastered in the papers along with several court visits his case was dismissed with prejudice and strong reprimand against the cops. Problem with all of this is people always remembe the first things they read and he ended up having to move due to the ridicule and harassment he received. The cops claim is they were protecting the kids but all they managed to do was break up a good family, lose a bundle of money due to law suit, and cause the kids to require years of counseling and a hatred of police.
Fishman.... omg, thank you for the information. I know it is a dangerous drug, but I wasn't sure just how bad this could have been, say if they had gotten it on their skin, or like you said, airborne or if someone had inhaled it somehow. Thankfully, none of those packets came open. It just goes to show you how tragically this could have turned out. Big sigh... this just sickens me. Thanks again.
is it too early to nominate for ''father of the year''?
Yeah, this kid has a chance.
I hope this "man" owes for the drugs and can't pay.
Oh surprise!! AT has yet another pointless comment to share....[yawn].....
Why is it nearly everything you post has an edge of negativity to it? Do you really hate your fellow humans so much that you feel required to make cold, asinine comments about everything?
You seem bitter and cruel. Sad, really.
Tumble...yup... a good beat down...might make him...quit horse'n around...
No indy: I just hate mind altering drugs, and those that push them.
First of all I have to wonder why someone would hate so-called mind-altering drugs. They don't all turn you into a husk of a creature, devoid of soul, and useless to society. I know that is the popular belief amongst certain conservative types and many nanny-state liberals, but it simply isn't true from a realistic and fact-based perspective.
Some more "popular" drugs like meth, PCP, to a very large degree heroin, isolated and purified cocaine (either powdered or in crack form, though NOT coca leaves themselves), alcohol, and most probably many research chemicals have a great potential to really mess a person up mentally and physically even when they AREN'T using them and often contribute to violence, neglect of dependents, and overdose death.
Other so-called "mind-altering" drugs do not cause such individual and societal harms, and can actually be beneficial to those who use them, and to society who then benefits from certain creative insights or just a general increase in overall mood and satisfaction with sober life. Certain psychedelics like psilocybin mushrooms, DMT (e.g. ayahuasca), LSD, mescaline (e.g. in peyote), and some others have been shown to have lasting positive influences on those who use them in the proper set & setting, and have traditionally, and even to some extent in a modern context, been used in religious or spiritual ceremonies (two Brazilian churches in the U.S., Christian churches, use ayahuasca legally). There is, of course, the possibility of a "bad trip," but the chances of such a negative experience can be minimized and even if it happens it can be worked through and still be a beneficial experience. The negative risks associated with such use are minimal.
Anyway, I understand that not every experience, whether it be a mushroom trip or a roller coaster ride or sitting and meditating for hours on end, is everyone's cup of tea. That being said, I think painting all "mind-altering drugs" with the same brush is beyond naive. That's something our government does, and we know how truthful, honest, and capable they are (sarcasm).
The fight should be brought against drugs that truly cause decay, like meth. Other than that, people really ought to be given the responsibility to do what they will do as long as they can do so in a way that is respectful of the rights of others.
So Arizona Tumleweed I quess and hope you also hate PhRMA, The FDA, doctors and hospitals as they are the biggest pushers of hard and mind altering drugs in the US. Far more kids are introduced to hard drugs by trying legend drugs. Yeah the war on drugs is doing such a graet job...1914(Harrison Drug Act) 1.3% of the poulation were addicted to drugs...56 yrs later 1970s(War on Drugs) 1.3% of population addicted to drugs....36 yrs later a trillion plus $ and many lives lost and ruined, quess what still 1.3% of the population addicted to drugs.
youtube.com/watch?v=LayaGk0TMDc Watch this video and others about LEAP. If this atleast does not make you think twice then maybe you ate to much or your painted crib as a baby.
Also try and take the time to watch one or both of these documentaries as it may open your eyes,problem is so many peoples are are shut and will never see the truth behind the lies
youtube.com/watch?v=rsC4IZhlx4I&feature=related
youtube.com/watch?v=FybfMqohBNc&feature=related mostly medical aspect of cannabis
fishman: If you read my posts, you'll see that I refer to doctors as pushers for American drug cartels.
My eyes are wide open. And I'm strong enough to NOT need mind altering drugs to face life.
Oh: And NO, I don't drink either.
LOL. I just thought of all his customers. They have the shakes this morning without their "fix". LOL.
@Arizona for once i agree with you on this what a jack ass and i hate all hard drugs but i do agree with you this time
Well, you can hate them or you can realize that everyone makes mistakes, and everyone pays for their mistakes in some way. While it would obviously be wonderful if the heroin addicts could stop using, the fact is that a heroin addiction, like addiction to opioids in general, has the power to lessen the opioid response in the human brain, which is truly an awful medical condition to have to live with.
They pay for their mistakes daily, and will probably pay for the rest of their lives if not WITH their lives. I can understand hating hard drugs, but hating those who end up addicted to them, even if the addiction was initially a choice (however ill-informed or under whatever circumstances which none of us who haven't been there can actually empathize with) seems without purpose and awfully mean-spirited to me. There is no reason to excuse any criminal behavior of an addict, like theft, but there is also no reason to hate the addict for simply being an addict. That is something that, even if they kick the addiction, they will have to deal with for the rest of their lives. None of us will have to deal with a trial so personally and persistently difficult.
The best one can do is show a little sympathy to their condition, hope they get help, and punish them if they commit crimes against others just as we would a non-addict.
Heroin, meth, crack, and coke dealers, however, know exactly what they are doing to other people (and most of the time they aren't even users or addicts), and to despise them seems perfectly fair to me.
All of his costumers found out he went to jail and called the next guy...And if selling drugs is all you got then make money...Not like there is any jobs in this state...Sucks that he got caught this way...So sorry White America, but this is the reality that we in the 'Hood have to face sometimes...Tell your Senators and Congressmen to stop getting these drugs into our community then we would all be better off....
Re-posted for thumper. You seem to have missed this above your last post.
No indy: I just hate mind altering drugs, and those that push them.
#24.3 - Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:11 AM EDT
That's why they call it dope!