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Subscribe to RSSHours after Florida Special Prosecutor Angela Corey announced that George Zimmerman had been charged with second degree murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, Martin's parents told NBC's Brian Williams that Zimmerman's arrest helps fulfill their goal of bringing their son's shooter to justice.
Updated at 7:09 a.m. ET: George Zimmerman is in custody in Florida and will be charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, authorities announced Wednesday. His attorney said he would plead not guilty.
"We did not come to this decision lightly," Angela Corey, the special prosecutor appointed by Florida Gov. Rick Scott to re-examine the case, said at a news conference in Jacksonville.
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Corey had previously said she wouldn't present the case to a grand jury, which took first-degree murder off the table. Second-degree murder carries a maximum sentence of life in prison.
Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara — who took the case late Wednesday after Zimmerman's previous attorneys withdrew — said Zimmerman would plead not guilty and that he would seek Zimmerman's release on bond. Zimmerman was scheduled for an initial hearing Thursday at 1:30 p.m. ET.
Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey announces that she will seek a second-degree murder charge against George Zimmerman in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin. NBC's Kerry Sanders reports.
"I think he's troubled by the fact the state decided to charge him," O'Mara said. "I would think anyone charged with second-degree murder would be scared."
Corey said she decided last week to seek the charge but needed several days to make sure all details were in order. She said she had informed Martin's parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton.
'A heart has no color'
In a brief statement in Washington at a news conference at a gathering of the National Action Network, Fulton said: "We just wanted an arrest, and we got it, and I say thank you. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Jesus."
"I just want to speak from my heart to your heart, because a heart has no color. It’s not black, it’s not white. It’s red. And I want to say thank you from my heart to your heart," Fulton added, according to NBC News.
Trayvon Martin's mom: I believe killing was an 'accident'
(The National Action Network is a project of the Rev. Al Sharpton, host of MSNBC-TV's "PoliticsNation," who has played a prominent role in advocating for charges against Zimmerman.)
“I think they decided to review it based on public pressure," Sharpton said, according to NBC Miami. "Had there not been pressure there would not have been a second look."
“Tonight maybe America can come together and say only the facts should matter when you’re dealing with a loss of life," he added. "This is not a night for celebration. This is a night that should not have happened in the first place."
On NBC's Rock Center Wednesday evening, Fulton said that she found Corey professional.
"I believe there is a human side to her," she said. "I believe she looked at the evidence, spoke with the witnesses and determined what (Zimmerman) should be charged with."
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Kerry Sanders and Pete Williams of NBC News and NBC station WESH of Orlando, Fla., contributed to this report by M. Alex Johnson of msnbc.com. Follow M. Alex Johnson on Twitter and Facebook. |
Ben Crump, the attorney for Martin's parents, said the decision was about "justice, justice and only justice." He said it was important that Zimmerman have a fair trial, even though "we believe in our hearts that he was wrong to kill Trayvon Martin."
Corey refused to discuss details of the case, saying she was committed to protecting the interests of both Martin and Zimmerman.
"So much information on this case has gotten released that should never have been released," she said.
Zimmerman, 28, arrived in a police caravan at the Seminole County jail about 8:20 p.m. ET. Under Florida law, he must be taken before a judge within 24 hours of his return to the county, where he has acknowledged he shot and killed Martin, 17, in the town of Sanford on Feb. 26. Corey wouldn't say where he was being held to protect his safety.
Scott, who appointed Corey after Seminole County authorities declined to bring charges, said in a statement that the matter "is now in the hands of the judicial system and I am confident justice will prevail."
Attorney doubts fair trial
Zimmerman, whose father is white and whose mother is Peruvian, says he shot Martin, who was black, in self-defense after following him in a gated community in Sanford. Police questioned Zimmerman but decided against pressing charges.
The lack of an arrest or charges had sparked protests nationwide, with critics alleging that Zimmerman confronted Martin because of his race. Zimmerman's supporters deny that.
Trayvon Martin's parents say they're thankful there was an arrest but that 'this is just the beginning.' NBC's Ron Allen reports.
The decision whether to arrest Zimmerman was delayed for several weeks because Zimmerman had indicated that he would argue self-defense under Florida's so-called Stand Your Ground law, which shields subjects from prosecution if a judge determines that the shooting was justified to protect life or property.
Corey called the law "a tough affirmative defense to overcome," but she said, "If 'Stand Your Ground' becomes an issue, we will fight that affirmative defense."
O'Mara, Zimmerman's attorney, told reporters that he didn't think Zimmerman could get a fair hearing "today" because "the emotions are just running high in Central Florida."
"I am hoping the hatred settles down," he said.
A federal civil rights investigation is also under way, but U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Wednesday that the Justice Department had to meet a "high bar" to bring any charges.
The main federal role is to "support the state in its ongoing investigation," Holder told reporters Wednesday morning in Washington. At the same time, he said, the Justice Department is conducting its "own thorough and parallel investigation" to try to resolve the case "in as fair and complete a way and as quickly as we can."
More on the Travyon Martin case from msnbc.com and NBC News:
- NBC: George Zimmerman in custody, charged with second-degree murder
- Vote: Do you agree with the decision to charge George Zimmerman?
- Trayvon Martin timeline: Key events in the Sanford, Fla., shooting case
- AG Eric Holder: People 'rightly concerned' about Trayvon Martin death
- Trayvon Martin's parents on arrest: "Thank you, Lord"
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I say charge him with 1st degree murder. From the day he bought that gun, and joined the neighborhood watch (hunting) group, George's mindset was that he was ging to get him "one of those guys who always gets away". It was premeditated against someone of color, and Trayvon was just at the wrong place at the wrong time. Throw the book at him!!!
Timm, that's so ignorant and idiotic to state that. But what would one expect from a ignorant person?
You somehow KNOW GZ's mindset better than anyone close to him vouching for him being a good person...
You are a moron if you think you know about this case at this point...well, actually from reading your posts, it's pretty clear...
Okay how would everyone feel if a black man shot a white 17 year old unarmed child and claimed the stand your ground defense. Would the black man be in right then. I don't care that Zimmerman is a white Hispanic man. I don't care that Trayvon Martin was a black teenager in a hooded sweat shirt. I only care that an unarmed teen was shot and killed by a man who had been told to quit following the teen around.
Lest anyone think I am black, I am a "color" blind white southern male who has red neck relatives who are probably incensed that Zimmerman has been charged with a crime.
Speaking of "Hannity", saw a quick few minutes of his garbage BIASED show yesterday (can't stomach too much of it)! And this SOB claims to want "justice done", but it looks like he only wants this "justice" done for ZIMMERMAN, NOT for dead TRAYVON who can't even speak now nor defend himself! Hannity ranted on and on and ON about how GZ was so-called "beat up" with "a broken nose blah blah blah!" It's said that he interviewed GZ, but he WON'T share what GZ said. NO one on FOX is for doing the RIGHT thing, they are only concerned with a SELECT few citizens of the country, and they are (R) party FIRST above all else! The Democrats in this lifetime have always been on the side of FAIRNESS for ALL groups of people! The GOP hasn't and isn't! You can bet that most of these bigots here who automatically side with GZ are GOP, or GOP leaning! They have BOUGHT all the nasty MYTHS about ALL Black people! So it's NO surprise now to see how they condemn and bash Trayvon! For all you who say "this is not about race", ... BULLSH*T! Please! Racism kicked up a dam storm with the election of Obama ('birthers' tea party, etc) and now THIS mess! That boy COULDN'T help what COLOR he was born into! You need to take off your rose colored BLINDERS and SEE what's REALLY going on out here!
Well said Liberty Hill. Racism will always be a factor in this society. Heck it hasn't even been 50 years since LBJ signed and passed the 1965 voting right acts and civil rights act of 1964. Many people are unaware of that fact, and do not realize that the "Good ole Boy" network is still alive and well. The slave mentality is so strong in America. "Do as I say BOY!".... That attitude has to cease. That's my two cent.
"clap, clap, clap" for Liberty Hill! Well said and so very, very true.
So, is Alan West a Racist, or an "Uncle Tom?"
LOL...LOL...LOL...OH that's right, only Republicans are "racists"...I could give you facts, but it's worthless.
As far as the "Democrats in this lifetime have always been on the side of FAIRNESS for ALL groups of people" comment, it just shows you are an ignorant person that has a massive bias. Does Robert Byrd ring a bell?
I could give a LIST LONGER than "Republican" list of RACIST and more, but fighting idiotic statements isn't worth the effort...keep blowing your mouth off, that's all it is...NO facts.
But...Did YOU KNOW that it was NBC/MSNBC/ABC that LIED and put the EDITED 911 tape of George Zimmerman out, and FOX NEWS was the network giving the REAL tape?
Where's the BIAS there? Just shows this is beyond IGNORANT to being IDIOTIC...
I can adimit I may be wrong but I dont think this was killing about Race essentially. I believe It will turn out to be vigilanty justice brung onto an innocent victim. Are those crying racisim sooo sure this could never have happend if the person in the hoody turned out to be a non-African American? How can you really be so sure ?? There are plenty of Hispanic and White gang bangers in this country. He was trying to be a wannabe DIRTY HARRY in my opinion to somone who looked like a HOOD in a HOODIE. Maybe the trial will prove me wrong however.
Proverbs 29:1... A man who remains stiff-necked after many rebukes will suddenly be
destroyed--without remedy..... FACT:.... Mr. Zee will have his day in court and GOD will avenge his people.
Thought you were predicting the 2012 presidential election there for a minute.
Next court date May 29th....god bless you George Zimmerman.
Wow..... God does not bless murderers. Get a clue. Thy shall not kill!
Did u also preach the same thing when o.j. hacked 2 people to death???
i will say what i want - "God bless you George Zimmerman" - do something about it.
What the hell does O.J. have to do with this case? God bless Mr. Zimmerman for murdering a 17 year old child, lets hope you don't find someone blessing your child or family member's murderer!!! Yeah, I said it, now do something about it!
O'BOMB A is a racist.
That should be No Bomba if his record on reducing the military continues.
mark it on your calendars - the party may continue - next court date May 29th.
Why don't you fact check your comments before spewing your hate! You're talking about blacks on welfare, go check the stats and see whom collects the most welfare! I agree w/Timm, follow his suggestion. Anonymity behind a computer, oh the things we are able to say...
Rascalflatts: Don't waste your time on that moron troll. That's all he or she is, hiding behind a keyboard. F. her
Every thing America is base on stereo-type. Like villagers; to each his own. Life taken for granted more so than what is being fair to that life. Fairness is the attitude to justice. One is black; one is white ; one is yellow; one is brown and all the color stuff. Does'nt this sound sick, rather racist. No wander we are where we are in america. A life had been taken and the other guy is free rendering mercy on self defence. Any one can kill and insert self defence as a way to denied justice. Government create laws as a deterant for people with irresponsible behavior. Warnings by the 911 dispatcher to Zimmerman "not to follow Trayvon" is a deterant that would not have led to confrontation or tragedy, zimmerman failed to obey the warning that ended in a tragedy. Was the dispatcher's advise a deterant to this murder. Warning not to follow a tornado, but the excuse is "stand your ground".
john,
LISTEN to the FULL tape, then you may realize that your comments are IGNORANT...The dispatch asks "are you following" Zimmerman states YES, Dispatch tells him to STOP, Zimmerman STATES OK...
But you won't find that on NBC, CNN, CBS or ABC's EDITED 911 tape, you actually have to LISTEN to the REAL one...but why bother with facts, right?
Morons like you THEN conclude it's murder, but damn the facts, right?
Repeal the "Stand your Ground" law Florida and quit letting the NRA tell you what to do!
Question was Mr. Zimmermann asked not to follow the teenager? and he optioned to follow him anyway outcome a teenager got killed. where is the ambiguity America?
and we asked them not to riot - and we asked them not to steal - and we asked them to get off welfare and we asked and asked to....
and Sammy we asked you to get out of your mother's basement and get a 4th grade education, and you still haven't...
@Timm McCain! Thank you... That was a lovely comment.
There is no ambiguity....Trayvon Martin had the moxie to" stand his ground" against a weasel with a gun who was stalking him. Murder.
IDIOT
@screwtheworld! What money did the parents make off their son? Your comment was just plain ignorant. Mother and father have a right to question and demand answers. They should not have to justify their anger to anyone. If it were your son I'm quite sure you would feel the same way! And why not find out why the name was trademarked before you make assumptions. Anonymity brings out the true colors in people, some of the comments are so racist and so demeaning!!! Just know this: In the very end we all stand alone to witness the life we have lead and there is no hiding when that day comes. My heart goes out to both of the families.
Yesterday on Hardball, Chris Matthews was asking the question, "What will it take to get Zimmerman convicted?" It's a shame Zimmerman hasn't had his day in court and already some have him convicted. Can't we at least wait for a fair trial and hear all the details first....and then hang him?
WHAT AN INTERESTING CASE STUDY IN SOCIETAL RACE PERCEPTIONS IN AMERICA!!
A Caucasian Hit man clothed in a green checkered shirt and hat can walk around the city killing folk. But, let's say he is captured. Threat over, right? You betcha!. Hardly anyone (White or Black) would suffer from any signs of Post Traumatic Stress from any other White men who just happened to be wearing green checkered shirts and hats. Alas, the killings and profiles would soon be forgotten. We all would get along. No guilt by association.
However, When an African American wearing a hoodie is killed, the majority of White America suddenly now begins cautiously peering behind their backs, rechecking locked front doors, arming themselves with weapons of all calibers and becoming a little bit more apprehensive when they see other African Americans wearing a hoodie. Amazingly, the whole of Black America who happens to be wearing a hoodie--or not--has now become potential suspects or poster children which ellicit abject dread and fear in the eyes of many (if not most) White Americans. GUILTY BY COLOR AN CLOTHING! The two are mutually inclusive. Interestingly, it doesn't work with Whites. When Whites wear hoodies, all is good and safe in "Pleasantville".
It seemed to not matter that Trayvon was the one who got shot. HE WAS THE VICTIM! Conversely, you'd think that the whole of Black America in America now would be frightened out of their ever lovin' minds of any White faced, red shirt wearing, Charlie Brown looking Zimmerman following them at night--or day for that matter. Not so. African Americans forgive an forget. Then why has White America become so historically conditioned to fearanyone who looks like the victim (Trayvon) or looks like he might be a potential perpetrator who just happen to look like an African American with darker color and hoodies. Dead or alive! WHY IS THE WHOLE OF BLACK AMERICANS "PUBLIC ENEMY #1?
But not the Hit Man! Not the mass murderer. No matter how many people he is/have/had been/might be killing, Whites and Blacks will walk hand in hand with green checkered shirts and hats Whites without a tinge of doubt or fear--all day long, day or night. We trust the Hit Man. ... But not Trayvon. We trust the killer, but not the victim. What an amazing turn set of circumstances. Strange days indeed!
So, what do African Americans do? Stop wearing hoodies? Smile all the time to not appear threatening? Heavens forbid we appear like we might do bodily harm. Then of course that's a perfect reason to "shoot to kill" under the Stand your ground law. If you scare me and look like you can hurt me, then I can pull my gun and shoot you. Afterall, Black is a threatening color. All nice and legal. Hmmm.....maybe African Americans can not put their hands in their pockets when approaching certain people? Or, should they begin bleaching their skinsto look like Zimmerman. After all, he is supposed to be a Hispanic White American. African Americans can be Black just as long as they look White. Like South White Africans! That would "clear up" a good bit of Racial tension in America, no doubt. The lighter skinned thing is certainly working for George because we do have darker skinned Hispanics, y'all. It doesn't work the other way no matter how far up the social ladder Blacks may excel. Look at Obama! He's half White, but looks Black. Doesn't seem to be "working out for him" too well either.
Hmmm.... Well, I'm not sure what the immediate solution would be, I'm afraid. For now, I guess we are all just gonna have to continue to: FEAR THE HOODIE!!
You sound more like Peter Pan, and making stuff up is what you do...
Dude, you DO understand that Zimmerman is CLEARLY Hispanic? RIGHT?
Did YOU see him today? Only an idiot...(Pete?) would even think he was caucasian...but heck, let's MAKE this about race...
Educate yourself Pete, or forever be nothing more than ignorant...
Great post Pete
Jerry, he is half white and his mother is Peruvian. Hardly "clearly Hispanic."
Young Graddy,
I guess his personal information is WRONG then...He's been a LIAR all his life? He's listed his stats wrong for his entire life?
He's NOT white, any more than OBAMA...Funny...how Everyone says Obama's black when it's about votes and "feel" good but it changes to 1/2 for other purpposes. McCain could have said he was 1/2 black, HE IS, but he's white...
Zimmerman is CLEARLY Hispanic. Obama states he is black...I don't argue with Obama, except when he changes his tune for votes...
GZ is NOT guilty of second degree murder... he is guilty of MANSLAUGHTER!
Now that I can agree with. Yet with a stand your ground law he should walk - according to the law.
Wow, I broke my nose 20 years ago and I look FAR worse than this guy who apparently broke it only a couple months ago...
I broke my nose three times,one time it took me days to figure it out. Don t play Doctor
The decision to charge is the correct one. The "stand your ground"law is an affirmative defense.... it has to be proven to be appropriate. My understanding is that it has been alleged something like 120 times & only upheld 19 or 20.( contrary to what some people think, it is not a shoot first, ask questions later: license to kill, but a question of whether the defensive actions are appropriate under the circumstances) if the police have done a thorough investigation they would have collected evidence to be analyzed...... details that none of us reading media coverage have. These details will determine the appropriateness of Zimmerman's actions, in a court of law, as it should be. I am curious, if anyone in FL knows...... since they have charged murder2, can he be convicted of only that or could he be found not guilty of murder2 but guilty of a lesser included offense,.... negligent homicide , manslaughter etc?..
It's been upheld 120ish times, and a few (less than 20) were similar situations (such as the guy who followed the radio thief to ask for his property back and ended up killing the thief.)
If Zimmerman s lawyer is good he will find and bring to light the evidence that has been kept from us..If you don t know by now there s exculpatory evidence out there, you haven t done your homework..
al-2891335:
" bring to light the evidence that has been kept from us" ???? "If you don't know by now there's exculpatory evidence out there"????? Oh, God! You have no idea how pitiful that sounds???
First you admit it's been kept from you, then erratically babble that you know that it is out there? -and that it's even "exculpatory", no less??? Well which is it, make up your mind? Do you 'Know', or has it been 'Kept From" you? You can't have it both ways, I'm afraid.
"Exculpatory"? Wishful thinking. Wishful thinking don't help ole law abiding Zimmie.
Some commissary money would help him a little more than your wishing.
This phoney prosecutor made sure she said how she prayed with Trayvon s family..This is all such B--l S--t.. I have never heard of such a thing in my life...
Let them riot we ll show them how to " Stand Your Ground "
Who lied and said you and your ilk was human?
Your're a goober. Goobers have never, ever been human.
Never forget it!
al, chris and CD, your mothers must be proud.
How many of you have actually HEARD the 911 tape, UNEDITED?
I ask as a lot of people on here are ignorantly/idiotically making comments about Zimmerman "following" and NOT knowing what was said. Per NBC's tape, Zimmerman "stated" Trayvon was black, and when asked "are you following" stated YES...and THAT's IT...
In the REAL tape...The 911 dispatch ASKED "what color is he" and Zimmerman replies "I think he's black" THEN
the 911 dispatch asks "are you following him?" Zimmerman says "yes" dispatch says "stop" Zimmerman says "OKAY"..
Unlike NBC/MSNBC/ABC/CNN/CBS the ReAL tape has this...so, for you MORONS out there convicting Zimmerman w/o a trial.
Even WORSE, a load of you are still making this a WHITE vs. Black thing, and when you idiots found out Zimmerman was Hispanic, you turned and attempted to make it the police, though the FACTS show AND most attorneys on TV are stating that the Murder 2 charge is a reach, Man 1 is appropriate, and it'll be hard to get a conviction there based on ..YOU guessed it, 911 TAPE...but if you "EDIT" it, he's guilty...
While this is sucking up media attention, a 7 year old African American girl was MURDERED by GANG Violence in Chicago crossfile St Patrick's weekend, and WHICH network is the ONLY National to COVER it...
FOX...but they're the "bias" one....Go Figure...
Chris,
I don't know if he's guilty or innocent, but it just kills me how many people have convicted him and MOST haven't heard the 911 tape. From listening to the tape, GZ did back off when told to...
But by NBC's tape, he stated Martin is black, he stated he was following...but those are edited, leaving OUT the responses...
The morons here that post based on NBC's tape need to have their voting rights revoked, as it's a shame and not America.
Let the police do their job...celeb idiots like Sharpton, Jackson, Barr and Spike are nothing more than PR hounds looking for their next fix...
I have heard all the 911 tapes, and Zimmermans in it's entirety. I did not really know people like Chris White Trash were so prevalent. The South is 30 yeas behind the rest of the country. I am embarassed for the Country that people like you still exist. In Calif. we would say eeeeehh loser.
Myfamily he did stop following him. He was on the phone with the dispatcher in the back of the subdivision where there were no street signs. He was trying to find street signs and lost track of Trayvon. He needed to know his exact location to give to the dispatcher. Trayvon then jumped Zimmerman and started to beat him up. From their Zimmerman in self defense pulled his gun and defended himself with it. All this trial is going to be is a show. The state had to arrest and charge Zimmerman to stop the riots caused by the bias media.
Montana Mountain Man- From your testimony you were there? Your going to testify for the defense as an eye witness? Give me a break.
Lest you all forget...Cell phones have GPS and they can surely pull records to see who was where and at what point and time...AND AGAIN, Lead Detective Chris Serino, didn't buy George's claim of self defense!!!
Lest you all forget...Cell phones have GPS and they can surely pull records to see who was where and at what point and time..
Lest YOU forget:
GPS in a GOOD (as in dedicated GPS unit) are typically accurate to withing 60 feet, some down to 20 feet. Phones are less accurate. even that 60 feet could be off as much as 120 feet and weather impacts consumer GPS greatly. That about covers the entire block the incident took place.
Chris Crackers banned for making racist remarks. No thanks.
Let them riot,we can handle it if the Government doesn t
It will be like a walk in the park
SO,
How many people watching Sharpton last night knew that one of the "Reverends" he had on "stage" with him was a rapist? The one (can't recall his name) had sex with an underaged girl, getting her pregnant.
Does Mom know who's she's got beside her?
Jerry-1573453
Well then, what's his name?
In any event; thanks for letting us know; -to bad you have nothing to help Zimmie.
Didn't know anything about that, but I do like how Sharpton stated that they wouldn't have settled for it had they decided that he did, in fact, fall under SYG.
Shows they aren't concerned about actual justice, but stringing up someone period.
I like how you have Sharpton convicted of "not being concerned about actual justice, but stringing up someone" when he hasn't even had a trial. What, does innocent until proven guilty not pertain to him?
When we did that before ole Zimmie was charged you all cried Innocent Until Proven Guilty, and didn't want Zimmie tried in the court of PUBLIC OPINION. Yet you are doing it to Sharpton? Why the double standard against him?
Zimmie is toast -not one of your posts can save him.
is this another case of trying to appease black america.......like in OJ's case. This isn't about race, Zimmerman is a minority himself. The media is stirring up the pot, with pictures of a 12 year old smiling Trayvon. The facts arent even clear, because of so much trashing in this case. I just hope he gets a fair trial, as a human, if he is fairly convicted then so be it. I know nothing about the 17 year old , other then he left behind parents that love him, may he RIP.
For those who want to know a little more about Trayvon and his Myspace account check this:
http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/was-trayvon-martin-a-drug-dealer
CBS was provided a recent photo of Trayvon (by his parents) that shows him with gold teeth and all. I was wrong in a previous post...Trayvon was not 6 feet tall...he was 6'2". George was 5'7". You'll love Trayvon's screen name...or maybe not.
it dont really matter what FB looks like. Zimmerman did not follow a direct order from a police officer to stop following Trayvon, then minutes later he confronts him and shoots him.......
Wait, Trayvon confronted Zimmerman and then Zimmerman defended himself. I wonder what you would be saying if Trayvon got that gun away from Zimmerman and shot him? Oh wait, we would never have heard about it as Sharpton and his crew would not be bothering with another gangster killing.
Shows that not only do you not know anything about what you are talking about, but that you never bothered reading the case facts or listening to the unedited 911 calls.
1) a dispatcher is not a police officer.
2) he didn't give him a direct order, and he couldn't anyway.
3) Zimmerman, based on the sounds in the background ('wind noise' slows down, Zimmerman stops breathing hard) and the further conversation (giving directions, almost stating where he lived but didn't know where the kid was and didn't want to say it out loud, then agreeing to meet the officers at the mailboxes) did stop the pursuit.
Treyvon Martin could have been the FBI's most wanted and it would still be murder 2. All the republican white trash southern crackers are to stupid to understand the concept of the law. They just spew their bigotry, then go to church on Sunday. The big boys had to come in take over the corrupt police dept. and Pass over their states attorney, get rid of the police chief. Y'all too stupid and corrupt and got caught trying to pull the wool in front of the whole world. This makes all you cracker look bad, and the whole world if laughing at you.
It is the District attorney who decided not to charge Zimmerman, the Sanford PD lead detective wanted to charge him with manslaughter.
Thank you Anna!
-Anna-
yet EVERYONE is attacking the Sanford PD for doing a piss poor job of things.
zanilth:
Thank you for this bit of creative speculation that you know nothing about since you were not there - (besides, they don't even fit the "known facts"):
Here's the "probable lies" you are sheepishly accepting Zimmie's word for -but they'll be challenged in court because they fit another scenario, not Zimmie's story.
You cannot testify to either of those; nor to this:
Wrong! Zimmie's own words first agreed to meet them at the mail boxes -then SUDDENLY!!! Oh boy -he changed his mind, and told them not to meet him at the mailboxes but he would call them later to tell them where to meet him. Hummm? Don't you remember that? It's on the tape you listened to, so how'd you get it wrong?
Why do you think Zimmie didn't stick with the plan to meet at the mailboxes? Humm, he's gonna have to answer that -can you help him? If he wasn't headed to the mail boxes, where then was he headed to?
Zanilith, I must say you are as bad as that trust-verify person; you both look at evidence that clearly hangs Zimmerman, and you cluelessly think somehow it helps him? WTF!!!
Your post in truth are peices of the prosecutions case, all fitting together right in front of you -and you can't even see them. Unbelievable!! Let me help you to see how those pieces you just talked about fit together with the other known facts in the prosections case to compose the narrative that convicts old George:
Yes you did George, you ran to catch up to him, when you got close, you reported you didn't know where he was, but you had come too close to him to give your address out loud, and you didn't want to meet officers at the mailboxes anymore.
That's the narrative all the facts come together to fit into -George's mouth is all the evidence.
Everything he did is on tape fitting together like a puzzle; a roadmap leading to his conviction.
And that don't even include what the witnesses have told the prosecution.
Zimmie better plead to a lesser charge -this woman can convict him of murder. He'll cop in a while.