Sounds like a drive-by. I bet the gunman feels real tough having shot an infant in the head-- what a waste of oxygen that gang-banging piece of sh*t is. Karma's a b*tch, homie. There's a special flame burning somewhere just for you-- and it will consume you and rend the flesh from your bones.

To others living in this area or elsewhere in a similar environment: closed circuit home security cameras are not that expensive! Invest in one and if this ever happens, you'll have a video of the dumb asses to turn over to the police-- get this baby-slaying scum off the streets!

This happens everyday in Chicago and nothing is done. Yet we are obsessed with Travon Martin and the "White" Hispanic dude. Where is Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson? Chicago averages 30 shootings A WEEK!!

More guns is the answer.

Garbage eating cowards like these gang bangers need to be air dropped into Iran with an empty weapon. Then we'll see what hero's they are. Any coward that would do a drive by needs to have a machete shoved up their $%& and twisted. I bet this coward would run home to his momma if he was up against a real man.

create a Special Law for Gang-bangers & drive-by's; immediate execution !!!..take away their Stupid Youth, be Very Hard on them..society doesn't need those Creatures..praying, this family recovers from this horrific event.....

This is something i'll never understand, and mostly because i'll never understand how an entire community just "puts up" with this (or in some cases, embraces this)...and thats all this boils down to.

I bet the gunman feels real tough having shot an infant in the head

I don't think drive-by shooters know who is shot and don't really care in most cases. If they really cared about who they shot they would be snipers not gang bangers. They are just trying to make their presence known. The toughness isn't about who was shot just that they marked their turf. Kinda like one animal pi$$ing on another's range.

My condolences to the family, as a grandparent I'm enraged that the innocent get hurt by senseless acts such as this. Having sat up over sick grandchildren, I can't imagine being strong enough to endure what this family is suffering.

Where are Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the rest of the media vultures who have flocked to whip up the public's hubris over other cases? I'm incensed that the incidence of black on black violence is treated in such a cavalier manner by our national press, and our black leaders who are not raising a voice over these acts of violence perpetrated in the home district of our former junior Senator from Illinois.

gang banging & drive- by's is; Domestic Terrorism!! and that, s/b dealt w/ an Iron Hand in LAW !!......

I don't understand the whole "where's Jesse/Al Sharpton?" What exactly do you expect these two men to do? Both men went down to Florida where a genuine case of judicial imprudence was occurring. They assisted with the calls for justice. In the end, justice was served. Congrats to ALL the people who pushed for justice, including Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

If any man kills any woman, do white people wonder out loud where Gloria Steinem or other prominent feminists are? How about black people... do they wonder where all the feminists are? NO! But when a black man shoots ANYONE, all the white people wonder where Jesse and Al are! My white brain finds that to be double standard.

If the prosecutor in Chicago decides not to bring charges against these gangbangers because they are claiming self defense (ridiculous, I realize), then I expect Jesse and Al to be right there screaming for justice. And I'm confident that would happen.

High crime in urban areas is not "injustice". When murderers in urban areas are caught, they are brought to trial and justice is served. When the "stand your ground" laws interfere with the ability for justice to be served, that's when I expect activists to speak up.

And let's face it, both Jackson and Sharpton have criticized their own communities for all the violence. But why bring that up when all you're trying to do is disparage these guys?

And yes, I'm as lilly white as they come. But I don't hate on Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton for their work as activists. And when a man shoots a woman, I don't ask out loud where Gloria Steinem is (and neither do my black co-workers).

Can't help but agree with Gary 420 - Unless they can incite big publicity and get paid, Al and Jesse are no where to be found. they only want in where the media and the racism can feed a frenzy and get them "donations" to support the "cause". Zimmerman is a moron, true, but the lop sided support is what is so moronic. How about pushing for a culture change where blacks don't kill blacks to the tune of dozens PER DAY as much as you push for justice when a self appointed vigilanty kills one.

Gary 420

This happens everyday in Chicago and nothing is done. Yet we are obsessed with Travon Martin and the "White" Hispanic dude. Where is Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson? Chicago averages 30 shootings A WEEK!!

Harold, the Martin case is sad, but the media lies and distortion have made it much more disturbing. I hope that justice is served. If the shooter were black, this would not be news. If the shooter was not "White Hispanic" this would not be news.

The national media has turned this unfortunate incident into a race war. In their ignorant world, blacks are being shot by whites every day. There is racism on every street corner. Blacks need to hide from whites for fear of their lives in approximately 25 states according to the ignorant liberal media.

In reality, it was one guy who used really bad judgement. The stand your ground law probably needs review/revision. His race is not material. He will probably be found guilty of manslaughter and serve some time or receive a lengthy probation.

You are such a compassionate liberal. 120 homicides have occurred in Chicago for the first quarter ( Chicago Tribune ). 90% of the victims were black as were 90% of the perpetrators. 50% of Chicago Public School children do not graduate high school. 75% of African American births in Cook County are out of wedlock. Unemployment for young black men is 45%. And you and your ilk don't give a damn. Jesse, Sharpton, and Obama don't give a damn. Addressing the underlying problems of the African American community is hard, hard work (Hint: the problem is not racism) and there are usually not TV cameras around.

Go wear your hoodie and chant power to the people. Then go home to your safe, clean, warm home and pat yourself on the back.

Good response Gary.

Let's face it, Jesse Jackson and to some degree Al Sharpton, are glory hounds, if anyone who is not Black farts in their general direction they are all over the media about racism to get their faces on the tube. They could give two shakes about black youth, or true issues facing black youth.
Even though Obama was a Senator from Illinois, I am sure he only gave minor thought to inner-city Chicago issues, just like most politicians. They would prefer to ignore something like this and hope something happens to make it go away.

I'm sorry for both the mom and her baby... but it really looks as if the shooters were after the baby.... I really don't understand how gangbangers work, but they seriously need to be eliminated!

Harold, You really can't see the relation, really? I guess those who have selective outrage are of the same ilk as those who have selective reasoning.

Harold the reason why people want Sharpton and Jackson to do something is because they are always ready to shout racism and look at what that white guy did to that black guy but are silent on the problem of black people killing or injuring other black people. The most likely murder victim in this country is a black man, the person who is most likely to have murdered him is a black man. I know someone has to fit the most likely scenario on both accounts but there is a terrible problem in the black community with this happening and children like this baby being hurt and killed it just about kills me to read about things like this why aren't Al and Jesse telling them to cut it the hell out, they say nothing, all of the time unless it involves, what they perceive, as racism. I know them saying something won't immediately help but someone needs to actively work to change the mind-set there. They are valuable people, why don't they treat each other as such, and that little baby didn't do anything to anyone. It may turn out that this was some kind of domestic thing but even still, it's unacceptable.

sam adams

More guns is the answer.

As mentioned by a previous poster Chicago has some of the strictest gun control laws on the books... Remember they took their case all the way to the SCOTUS and had to relax them. The only people who have guns in Chicago currently are the police who can only respond to crime without being called racist Nazi and the criminal element who could care less how illegal it is to have a gun or anything else.

Umm... Residents of Chicago can also own guns. I'm one of them.

And I don't see how a gun would have prevented this incident. The family was sleeping and bullets came in through the wall/window and injured these people. By the time they reacted, the shooter was long gone. It happens everyday in Chicago. Shooters fire from a distance while you are sleeping, waking away, busy driving your car, etc. They are nothing but a bunch of cowards. You having a gun won't stop them, as they will never attack you from the front or give you a warning.

What exactly do you expect these two men to do?

Incite racial hatred as usual.

Both men went down to Florida where a genuine case of judicial imprudence was occurring.

Just like their trips to New York to because of the injustice for Tawana Brawley and the trips to North Carolina because of the injustice involving the Duke University athletic team.

Trayvon, Zimmerman, Jackson, Sharpton all aside a tiny 1 year old baby was shot through the head. It might be good if we all took a step back and thought about the fact that poor child will never have a chance at a normal life again. Don't get me wrong the whole thing in Florida is a 3 ring circus but politics and race aside an infant was shot and we need to remember that before we start pointing out that it proves something about the Trayvon situation.

My prayers for the family and child.

an infant was shot and we need to remember that

PJ - Your point makes the very point that these comments are all about. People focus on a single factor and amplify it to their ends. You focused on the child and the effects it may have on the baby while ignoring the fact that the mom was also shot and the effects her injuries and her concern over her baby's injuries will have on her for living a "normal" life. That is no different than the Martins focusing on their child being shot and the perceived injustice, the "obvious" racial impacts perceived by al and jesse, etc.

People pick and choose their focus areas and ignore the total picture. That has a tendency to skew the reality of the situation.

No, I am NOT making your point for you. I am making my own point. We are all so caught up in our selfish opinions and need to be right that people ignored the injured child. This is much of what is wrong with our society. Sorry but if you want to play the race game and pull out the Zimmerman / Trayvon then care about this child (also black btw in case you didn't notice) even though its death is not meaningful to your cause or do black kids only count if shot by white Hispanics. Sheesh now you have me doing it. Argh!

My point had nothing to do with race. Bringing up the Martin case was just another recent example of people focusing on "the poor (no reference to financial status intended) children". Like you I am sick of the race being used as an excuse.

My point was that it doesn't matter what the race of the baby victim is, the authors of the articles focus on the child/children and ignore the other victims. In the aftermath of a tornado the attention is focused on the children. In bus crash, the attention is focused on the children. Granted a child may be suffering from its injuries but so are the adult victims.

Sorry, my bad then. Hubs had a stroke recently and I am a bit on edge. Apologies. I am just so tired of hearing all the hate speech going on from all sides I feel sick of it all.

Wrong story my little enlightened one-wrong story. Get your facts right then come back and TRY to talk to the adult world!

LOL!!!

Ban handguns.

But Spielman..... Chicago has a handgun ban and some of the strictest gun laws on the books! How in the world could have anyone been shot in Chicago? And someone just posted that "this kind of thing happens every day around here". Why aren't the gun laws working? Are the criminals there so brazen that they don't follow the laws? Sounds like we need more laws.

(And you're right, it probably wouldn't have made a difference in this particular case. However, there are still those of us who would at least prefer to try and have a fighting chance if confronted by a violent criminal with a gun. We understand guns are not a guarantee and do not claim that they are. That being said, I know of homes that have burned with fire extinguishers and smoke detectors inside of them. I know people who died in car accidents despite having their seat belts on. You'll still find a fire extinguisher and a gun in my home. I also wear my seat belt every day).

What handgun ban? Oh right, the one that no longer exists... Thanks for keeping up to date.

Josh

What handgun ban? Oh right, the one that no longer exists... Thanks for keeping up to date.

Would you by chance be referring to this law? https://portal.chicagopolice.org/portal/page/portal/ClearPath/About%20CPD/Firearm%20Registration/handgun-registration-20B-with-offender-registry.pdf

I am 100% certain those who shot these two complied in every way with the above mentioned law. (sarcasm) I am also certain they complied with Illinois FOID law. (sarcasm again)

Thanks for proving my point, a handgun ban that is no longer exists as shown by the above link. All the text prohibiting the ownership of a handgun is stricken through. That's why I legally own a gun in the city.

I posted the link after you explained it had been rewritten. I do note that there are still plenty of restrictions and as noted elsewhere I am SURE that these shooters complied with all the laws as far as gun purchases, ammunition purchases and FOID. BS. Gun control does not work against criminals.

Troy, for me the most impressive thing was Treyvon's mother praising God that Zimmerman was being tried for second-degree murder...rather than raging because he would be spared the death penalty.

I'll tell you what happened- they were the unintended target of a drive by/gang related shooting...this happens daily in chicago. a six year old girl was killed not to long ago in a likely similar incided. the thugs and gangbangers have ruined this city.

thats why i find it so hypocritical that everyone is up in arms about the trayvon martin shooting- where is the outrage about all the black males killed every day by other black males? it makes no sense.

scr88 - unintended is an interesting word. no doubt whoever shot into this house wasnt INTENDING to shoot that girl, but likely...whoever they WERE trying to shoot, likely had stayed at that house at some point or another.

I would be speculating - obviously - but my gut instinct says this woman, likely was sleeping with a guy that these thugs were looking to hit. He just didnt happen to be in HER bed that night.

Which, if that is the true scenario - doesnt make this as innocent as the word INNOCENT implies.

You dumpster dive and hang with thugs, losers and wastes of life...you are going to end up paying the price for it.

It's entirely possible that these thugs just had the wrong house entirely, and in that case - of course these would be unintended targets.

But then as we hear quite often "this is common for chicago" and especially this general area of chicago.

Which again, if you just had a little girl and all that matter to you is your little girl and her precious life, why on EARTH havent you found a way out of that place yet? Oh sure, you wont have your friends or family nearby...and you might have to take up a few part time jobs to make ends meet...and you might have to live a real meager life...but you'd be far away from the daily violence that these communities are very used to.

IT BOILS DOWN TO CHOICE - and once you've made up your mind about what matters, all you have to do is go and work your butt off to make that happen.

Of course, the work your butt off part doesnt exactly describe most folks who live in these communities to begin with...so there you go.

and i agree about the lack of outrage about the black male on black male violence, and the cesspool they have created for themselves. its the elephant in the room that no one black wants to talk about and as long as thats the reality...nothing will change.

but what do I know, im just a white person. and every place ive ever lived has never had these kinds of issues...mostly because the people who live in those communities, would never tolerate that kind of insanity...not even for a week.

I just wish that innocent little children were not caught in the crossfire. It is not so hard to talk about what we would or wouldn't do...Im not being facetious I promise. It is just that life experience has taught me that what I think I would do in a crisis and what I actually do are much of the time very different. It certainly does feel like someone was after someone other than who was shot. Why on earth would anybody shoot randomly into a house with children in it. Hopefully a special place in hell is reserved for whoever did this!

Nothing is "off" in the story; drive by shootings happen for reasons only the shooters know. Something as minor as "disrespectin" the banger or the gang could be the reason and the "disrespectin" could be something as minor as answering wrong or watching to closely or even making eye contact for to long. It could have also been the wrong house or it could be the family is believed to have narced.

Ghetto sub-cultures do not opporate under the same rules as the suberbs.

Jessica,
You are probably correct, they may have had the wrong place. I would guess that Spike Lee gave them the address. (I'm not poking fun at either issue...just pointing out the absurdity)

That is a damn good question you asked. Where are they, still in FL, collecting money from people who think they are really there to help them?

There is nothing in this unfortunate event that will get Mr. Sharpton's or Mr. Jackson's attention. They are self-serving, self-obsessed idiots and why in the world anyone gives any credence to a word they say is beyond me.

They don't care about black on black violence, only white on black; this is the only thing that whips up the public fury in the black community and gets them to pay them to show up and promote hatred.

Follow the money.

Bill Cosby has it right. It's the culture.

Unless and until there is any direct tie to a "white" having been involved they won't benefit from feeding the fires of racism. Hopefully the fires they stir up will glow brightly enough for their own race to realize they are merely using the black masses as stepping stones for their personal agendas. Will blacks realize in time?

Blacks have been so brain washed by Sharpton/Jackson/Farakkan they don't even know how to reason for themselves what the problem is. The problem is a culturally disfunctional group of one race of people who have no idea how to raise their children to be law abiding citizens. One can be poor as hell & stiill teach your children right from wrong. And, this woman & child have probably paid the price for a little bit of drug dealing on the side that the grandparents know nothing of!!!!!!

Only difference between 1920s Chicago and today is the tribal warfare isn't a Italian thing anymore.

"Bad, Bad Leroy Brown" comes to mind.

true

They only care when a white person kills a black person.

If they came and protested every murder/death/what have you of black males perpetrated by other black males they would never be able to leave chicago

Funny thing is that Jessie is from Chicago.

Please google Occupy Chicago it has been in Motion since 2011 don't listen to every thing you hear!

He already worked in Il...effective wasn't he.

Livingbarefoot-

Amen. I guess This is the outcome of his past organizing...now he is trying to turn our country into "Chicago" on a grand scale.

And they "were asleep in a back bedroom when shots were fired". 2 shots fired at ramdom and they both hit...why was mom on the floor in the kitchen and not triying to help her daughter with a head wound......was her sister a bystander or a particiapant "Tonishia Allen's sister was gunned down during a robbery several years ago"...like I said about a gazillion questions here. Shoddy reporting to say the least. More drama than fact. Who MSNBC, nah.

Agree... there's a lot of unanswered questions to this story.

Besides that, did Obama's felon buddy Rezco do the shoddy building? Bullets go through walls that easily?

Sheetrock work any better in the big expensive homes???

Bob and Mad, did you guys read the story? The mother had been shot in the leg and probably could not move.

We use CBS construction down here, no bullets going through. I know the rest of the country builds different, but I would think you would have at least plywood and then sheetrock.

Cassandra, did you read it? It said the shots were into the bedroom, which means she left the baby and went to the kitchen.

Cassandra did you not read the story...she moved from the bedroom to the kitchen floor...while her daughter lay bleeding from a head wound in the bed (probably, but not mentioned, in the same bed?). "Tonishia Allen, 24, and her 1-year-old daughter, Jaliyah Allen, were asleep in A back bedroom" and "That's when she found her daughter on the kitchen floor". The devil is in the details.

Chris-629698

Well, you gotta give a little credit where credit's due... those must've been amazing shots. You'd get some sort of achievement award in any modern FPS for nailing two people through a wall from a moving vehicle.Right on Chris..........Right on!!!!!! ROFLMBOOOOOOOOOOOO

This insanity is only beginning. You don't think Syria can happen here? That's what we thought about 9/11 too. So why did those guys take that LAW from Ft. Lewis?

I completely agree, Even, and I was about to ask the posters to do the same thing.

Only if the shooter is white. Wait, lets just say it was a white person and see what happens next.

Jack, stop showing your ignorance. The latest stats available have a evenly splits between black and white committing homicides. There's enough low class dirt bag whites out there doing the same thing.

I guess you haven't seen the thousands of "stop the violence" marches being held all around the country in black communities. I guess they aren't a "news" priorty on Fox news.

RSkalzo,

Jack is right. it isn't ignorance. this story will not even be remembered tomorrow unless the shooter was white.

R.scalzo wrote:

The latest stats available have a evenly splits between black and white committing homicides.

You are right. Thirteen percent of the population does commit about the same amount of murders as the other sixty-five percent.

R. Scalzo - You need to let the rage quit colouring your vision because what jackjr stated was correct. The media called Zimmerman white even after his family said he was hispanic. But since the media called him white that was enough for al and jesse to book flights. They wouldn't want to miss an opportunity stir the fire of racial intolerance.

michael henderson

hey bro, read the article again, it was Chicago - not much difference though one inner city is very much like the next! That's very sad, too! Pink people moving out of the cities and blacks moving in and the crime rates go up. I was born and raised in Detroit......could walk most of the streets then but not any more (I'm pink! just like that black women rep for the New Black Panthers said recently in Fla. regarding "white" Zimmerman). So sad that inter-racial crime is so high yet Al-n-Jesse will only whip up the people when it's a pink on black crime (very slim pickin's there these days right guys?).......no money in trying to do the right thing for you own people or to help them create a better life - who is that up to then if not guys like you who are self-appointed leaders and protectors of your culture.

Hey, I just happened to think - we now have our very own special word color...PINK! I like that, but I better not hear any Black Panthers use that term or.........they have their pet name for each other that we pink people can't use so I guess turn about is fair play, right?

@Gary 420

You are such a compassionate liberal. 120 homicides have occurred in Chicago for the first quarter ( Chicago Tribune ). 90% of the victims were black as were 90% of the perpetrators. 50% of Chicago Public School children do not graduate high school. 75% of African American births in Cook County are out of wedlock. Unemployment for young black men is 45%. And you and your ilk don't give a damn. Jesse, Sharpton, and Obama don't give a damn. Addressing the underlying problems of the African American community is hard, hard work (Hint: the problem is not racism) and there are usually not TV cameras around.

Go wear your hoodie and chant power to the people. Then go home to your safe, clean, warm home and pat yourself on the back

And What makes you think the shooter was black? lol YOU ARE THE REASON WE MARCH! YOU ARE another racial profiler you may continue........ just SAD!

And Please stop being LIARS Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have been planning OCCUPY CHICAGO for months but had to get permission from the Mayor!!

Geeesh Guys do better LINK below

It doesnt surprise me thou coming racial profilers! Lie your ways to the top or into thinking all blacks are well no need to say all the garbage. You all may continue

i dont know why the link isnt showing???? lol

Black Girl Lost

i dont know why the link isnt showing???? lol

You are still an unvetted newb. They won't let you post links for at least 10 days and some number of postings across various articles. Alternatively you can post the link without the http : // and may need to dump the www as well. They aren't picking on you other than you are an untested poster.

ECOMAN101

Its terrible and very sad that we yet again have to witness a deadly and horrific crime against innocent people. Why doesn't it seem that the gun laws in that city are not working?

So what is YOUR solution? I don't know where you get your facts but they certainly were made to support your illogical argument. Carrying your argument further - I assume - you would ban all guns. Then what? You would have only bad people with guns, that's great. So now you've, at least, limited the guns to just the bad guys....now what? We have all kinds of laws on the books regarding criminal behavior, laws against, murder, robbery, burglary......all kinds of viloent criminal activity - but these criminal acts still occur.

Here's what I think - take it or leave it, we all have our opinions, don't we - just enforce the laws that already exist, don't make new ones to cover the same old crimes or take away honest law abiding citizens rights just to justify your fears. We need less bleeding heart judges on the bench that believe that criminals can be rehabilitated (not talking about non-violent types of crimes or crimes of passion here) because there is more recidivism with violent criminals then with other types of crimes. Strong laws and strong adjudication of those laws - if nothing else - will take bad criminals off the streets. Laws that highly restrict the rights of honest people are absolutely useless because they are "HONEST"- criminals just by their deeds will NOT obey those laws that's what makes them "CRIMINALS".......one last thing: ask yourself, was it an honest law abiding gun owning citizen who drove by that house and shot it up. If you answer that question by saying NO then why are you trying to take away his/her constitutional right to own a gun? Do the logical thing and go after the ones that do these terrible things - that's the best way to deal with these middle-of-the-night cowards and show them NO MERCY!

wtfies66 - You have to want a solution. You have to care enough for that. The only one proven to work in other countries is Gun Control. Your arguments against that are unsubstantiated. It is not the case that if guns are banned only "bad" people will have guns. If you need to understand gun control, check in at any airport and homeland security will school you on how it works. Only the good guys have guns. Can gun control work here? Do we want it? Would we re-interpret the 2nd amendment as we have done in Supreme Court and other court cases historically to ban guns or specific type of guns? Those are the questions that have to be answered by the majority, not by me or you alone. But if we continue to proliferate automatic and semiautomatic weapons, do not restrict access, do not control, we will continue to live with the violence. This will continue unabated and your laws and enforcement are not enough to stop them now or going forward. That only comes to bear after people have committed the gun violence. It is not a proactive solution. Gun violence is what we will live with, it is a fact. Gun control is a possible, perhaps only possible solution, and that is our choice. Right now we choose to live with the violence. I can only say that people tend to change their opinions dramatically when it effects them on a personal level, when they become victimized by it.

ECOMAN101

I don't agree with your premise. There are several examples worldwide of countries without gun control. One such country is Switzerland where the government actually gives each citizen a rifle when they reach their age of majority - and they have one of the lowest crime rates in Europe. In contrast, England has very strict gun control laws and yet their crime rates -with guns - are rising. Many countries in the world removed guns from their people and the people are now in fear of their government. I would submit that most countries ban guns not because of crime rates and "we are concerned for our citizens welfare rhetoric" but because they are in fear of their citizenry and it is one way in which they can have total control. My belief is that government exists as a servant to the people not the other way around.

Your concern is certainly justified and I respect that, I too am concerned that to appease another's rights my rights have to be sacrificed and that's not fair. You're right this will be debated for a long time and I am on the side of the right to bear arms....even understanding your rights too - as you said the will of the majority will prevail. Humans are violent....figure out how to control that aspect and we won't need to worry about gun control, or knife control or baseball bat - you get the picture. AND with each incursion into our private rights we have less and less personal freedom - I want to keep that from happening.

No, it's not gun control. The notion of gun control assumes that it's possible to force behavior - that passing a law will "cause" someone to behave in a way they wouldn't otherwise. Violence is a cultural thing.

The Angry Guy

I couldn't agree more.......but trying to change "a cultural thing" would probably prove even more difficult plus it would not be a useful as a means to an end for a politician's career or a community leaders agenda - hear that Al-n-Jesse. Smaller government, more personal freedom - less new "worthless laws" more intense/harsh prosecution of criminal law violators.

The only one proven to work in other countries is Gun Control. Your arguments against that are unsubstantiated.

Let's see. How are those gun control laws working in the cities and states with strict gun control in the U.S. working?

As for other countries, is Mexico really the model for gun control or is it better to use local/state models such as Chicago, New York, Washington DC, etc.?

Source The Chicago Tribune

From Jan. 1 through April 1 this year, 120 homicides were recorded in Chicago, up sharply from 75 in the same period in both 2011 and 2010, according to department statistics. Nonfatal shootings totaled almost 490 in the first three months of 2012, up 37 percent from a year earlier.

Source DC Metro police

Homicides 19

unable to find a current year body count in NYC

Prevalent in all three cities is not the number of legal guns but the number of both gangs and drugs. Gun control is a criminals best friend.

Can't. Due process, just like Zimmerman. Unless of course he "resits"...

Sounds to me like they needed four more years of Senator Obama. They can have him back.

Knives, cars, blunt objects, and bare hands don't either/////////////////sarcasm.

Neither does Seal Team 6. Obama did that ask him, he will tell you.

There are no guns in Chicago. Their gun control laws ensure that. Something else must have happened in this instance.