
Devin Singleton / KAMR
Meltwater rushes past hail several feet thick on Wednesday off Highway 287 north of Amarillo, Texas.
Sure, everything's bigger in Texas. But 4 feet of hail from one storm? That's what the National Weather Service, the Texas Department of Transportation, a local sheriff and others say happened Wednesday in an area north of Amarillo when hail piled up in drifts so wide they cut off a major highway.
The National Weather Service office in Amarillo even posted a photo on its Facebook page, but that wasn't enough to convince skeptics.
"Serious do not think this is 100% hail!!!" commented one person.
"It's a lite dusting of hail on some damn rocks," said another person, referring to the image of a firefighter standing next to what could be taken for boulders.

Potter County Fire Department via NWS
The National Weather Service's office in Amarillo, Texas, posted this photo Wednesday night of a firefighter standing next to deep hail.
"I can assure you we do not have big rocks like that in West Texas," Krissy Scotten, a spokeswoman for the weather service office in Amarillo, told msnbc.com.
"That was 4 feet of ice" that was compacted by rain and floodwater across a wide area, she added.
"It was actually the rain/water that caused the drifts," Scotten said. "Anytime you have hail accumulate 2 to 4 feet high and get over three inches of rain, no matter how it occurs, it's pretty incredible."
As for the darkish color, "we're very dusty around here" due to drought so the hail quickly darkened, Scotten said.
The image, she added, was sent by the Potter County Fire Department and Matt Dryden, the firefighter seen in it, is standing where meltwater had cut through the hail.
"It was like rivers of hail," Dryden told msnbc.com. "It looked like icebergs coming across the highway."
The Texas Department of Transportation confirms it was deep hail dumped by a storm that dropped visibility to near-zero at times.

Texas Department of Transportation
This highway webcam image was taken at 4:10 p.m. local time Wednesday and shows hail on Highway 287.
"Heavy rain and up to 4 ft of hail has US 287 blocked north of Amarillo," it tweeted Wednesday afternoon.
The local sheriff concurred as well.
"You're looking at four foot deep" hail in one stretch, NBC affiliate KAMR-TV quoted Brian Thomas, sheriff of Potter County, as saying. "This was just one of those weird storms that just sat here and came down extremely heavy in this one area."
Amarillo TV station Pronews 7 even shot video of flash flooding triggered by the pea-sized hail and several inches of rain.
"It looked like soap suds," said Pronews 7 meteorologist Steve Kersh. "The storm was moving really slow and a combination of the pea-sized hail and four to six inches of rain created those conditions."
KAMR-TV reported that snow plows were called out to clear roads. Highway 287 was shut down for hours after the storm due to the cleanup.
Several vehicles got stuck in the flash flooding, and two feet of water also swamped a stretch of Highway 136, the weather service reported. One Chevy Tahoe, a large SUV, got stuck in hail up to its hood, Scotten said.

Krissy Scotten / National Weather Service
Covered in dust, this hail drift measured six feet high on April 12 and was still intact a day after it formed near Dumas, Texas, the National Weather Service said.
The pea-sized hailstones weren't big enough to set any size records, and Scotten said the service doesn't keep records for most hail in a given period.
But Jose Garcia, chief forecaster at the weather service in Amarillo, told msnbc.com it probably wasn't the most hail the region has seen.
"Five to 6 feet deep hail" fell in nearby Dalhart, Texas, in 1993 during a very similar storm, he said. It took almost a month for some roads to reopen as the compact ice melted slowly. "It was almost like huge snow drifts," he said.
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A little warning from mother nature..... Be prepared for one Hell of a tornado season.... (just a thought) Only a matter of time before a major city takes a direct hit......
You mean be prepared for extreme weather all year round nowadays.
you mean be prepared for 2012...@!$%#s goin down.
WOOOOHOOO...lets go storm chasing..CRAP!!!...someone call AAA
Superslushie! I'll take raspberry!
HAARP need not say more
Cool.
@ bjbutterfli
The very same year haarp was established.
I wonder why haarp likes to try it's weaponery out on texas?
So much for switching to mercury light bulbs saving the planet!
Please note the FENCE POSTS in the background. Fence posts are not 8 FEET TALL!!!!! A fence post in a field is about five feet at most.
What happened is that the hail got washed into a ditch by the tree inches of rain and then the rain cut through it providing a palce to stand. There was not a four foot hail fall.
If you're stupid enough to believe an area got a general four foot hail coverage I have some nice seaside property in the Mojave Desert I'd like to sell you.
This looks like God is raining down on the REPUBLICAN corruption of Texas.
DAG!! I thought this was a hoax. That's crazy. Weird weather lately, global warming.
They did say it was drifted not that it actually fell to a depth of four feet. I have some reading comprehension books I could sell you.....
Hey Jack - better hold on to that Mojave property! When the San Andreas gives, you will truly have some nice Pacific beach front. LOL
Here's an interesting experiment. Take an ice cube out of the freezer, and place on kitchen counter. Put your eye up to it real close, and it looks like a 50 foot tall iceberg! Then put the ice in a glass of bourbon and drink quickly. Congratulations, scientist! Nobel prize is in the mail!
texas needs the water, they are even hauling water trucks in to the fields for the cattle, the troughs are all drying up. (is there something to the mayan calender stuff)?
Oh my God!... Its almost summer! Global warming is coming!
Um, Spring JUST started so it is not ALMOST summer.
'usa is great' - It's almost summer in Texas. Perhaps not by calendar, but by weather.
The biggest rock you will find in Amarillo will be a grain of sand, blown in from Oklahoma.
I'm sure it is probably still pretty dry in west Texas due to... you know... it being a desert but for the rest of Texas, we've had a ton of precipitation lately and I believe at least for the time being we've escaped the drought. It is Texas though so I suspect it will return this summer. Hi, meet Texas.
@Jack
Great point about the scale of those fense posts in the background; now explain the fireman. Is he actually a leprechaun?
Actually, this is simply the beginning birth pains for the return of Christ so you should really expect things (weather, disease, finance, war) to get worse exponentially for several years. The world will not end in 2012. It's going be a little bit more time, but it is going to end with a new heaven and a new earth.
For all of the atheists and God haters:
Please don't waste your breath or typing skills, this is my belief from my belief system. You have your's and I have mine. If mine is right I get eternity with God and if wrong no big deal. If your's is right no big deal and if wrong you get eternity in hell.
tsucker that is not true. Ever heard of Palo Duro Canyon?
God sure does dislike Texas for some reasons..........
Well they needed water, maybe this will help, just nature replenishing its self, these things run in cycles, there is a advantage to the hail it has more time to penetrate into the ground water, the longer it takes to melt the better. to bad it wasn't a little farther west.
If the hail is 4 feet deep?
Why are the fence post in the background (only a few feet away).... still 5 feet above ground level? Someoneone is telling a Hail of a tale?
These ultra-Christians, and Ultra-Muslims and Ultra-Jews......extremity in religion is a sickness, an awful plague on mankind, which brings down criticism of mainstream religious believers.
And the guy above,is so sick, that his "handle" is "REALIST"..it would be a laugh if these people weren't real, sadly, they are "out there", ready to heap criticism on the sane people of the planet.
Where is the Cool-Aid when he needs it ?
Dang, 12 posts before someone turned hail into politics. Thanks Fosz
Yup, a noteworthy but not record hail on one day is conclusive proof of global warming. If you are a moron.
Quit derailing, The Fosz-4254828. There's a politics section. You're suspended for a week for violating #4 of the Code of Honor.
I think what Realist is trying to say is that if you are a Christian and you have been reading up on the signs of the second coming of Christ, that these are the signs spoken of. For those who don't believe in a second coming of Christ, that's okay too, but your idea that it brings down mainstream religion is a little off since mainstream Christianity believes in the second coming of Christ and the signs preceding that coming.
Just a little input from a religion teacher.
Now if it would only rain down tequila, lime juice, and orange liquer...we could all have margarita's!!
Many of the fence posts in Western Texas are eight feet high to prevent the deer from jumping over the barriers. And snow is dark gray or black from dirt as well. And what is your problem not accepting observations by the U.S. Geological Survey(USGS) and the U.S. Weather Service? It's apolitical. They document first, then report their findings. I know, many are not used to accepting evidence-based facts (real science).
Fed Up-3261941
"...Only a matter of time before one hits a major city"... Joplin, MO may not be a major city, but the tornado on May 22nd destroyed 8000 Homes, and 2000 Buisnesses! A debris field as big as Mahattan. I walked through 3.5 miles of that debris after being tossed around in my car to my destroyed house. Believe me on as big as you propose has already happend. I sure hope no one else goes through what we did!
All this crazy stuff is in the Book. Just have to read it.
Fed Up-3261941 "...Only a matter of time before one hits a major city". Well Joplin, MO may not be a major city but the tornado on May 22nd destroyed 8000 homes and 2000 buisnesses, left a debris field as big as Manhattan! I walked through 3.5 miles of that after being tossed around in a car, to my destroyed house. Believe me one as big as you propose has already happend. I pray no one has to go through what We did in Joplin!
There is nothing in extreme in Realist 502574's statement. That is basic biblical teaching, straight from the bible, nothing added. These are the signs that we have been given to allow us to know when the end of time is approaching. If you choose not to believe this, then you are exercising your free will. I am not criticizing you for your beliefs, but you are criticizing me for mine. "Mainstream" religious believers shouldn't have any problems with this. You cannot discount the bible, create your own truth and call yourself a believer of Jesus. You want to police my thoughts, tell me they are wrong, that I am a plague on mankind and then blame me for being the one "heaping criticism". Look in the mirror much?
Hey you know what a bunch of pranksters the USGS and US Weather Service people are, a laugh a minute. You never know when they might issue a tornado watch, and they time it so its in the middle of your favorite show.
@liam, don't worry about it. It's a fact that we have a global population problem and when the population explodes, so do the fridge elements. Watch one of those psychology movies where they over populate a cage with rats and it explains behavior pretty well. This is also the reason they tore down the projects, to many people heaped up in one place, common sense.
Agriculture is the biggest cause of global warming and with the forecast population we will have to double our efforts causing more problems. Check out this video, it shows all the facts -
Well, Whatever and Realist, I do feel compelled to "police your thoughts." Because they can be dangerous. Religious extremism has unequvically caused great suffering in our world. And it is the thoughts that religious extremists hold that have caused and validated that suffering. (The Crusades, 9/11, etc) I just wish we lived in a world where people weren't so in fear of what happens after they die that we could ALL work on improving our situation in the life we at least can verify that we exist in.
And anyone who gloats about "getting into heaven" because they believe in something told to them by other mortals needs to reassess their moral compass.
In my view, the compacted hail run-off has filled a ditch or dry gulch and the fence posts are higher up and further back in full view. If you look closely at the bottom of the posts, it appears to be a grassy area. That's my take. Pretty amazing, how ever you look at it.
Thats right Liam he hates us, that is why he placed all this oil and natural gas here!!!
Its very peaceful knowing what happens when you die.I see the fear and unhappiness of non beleavers on the web everyday.If your life is based on material things you well never have enough or truly be happy.
Thinking your from primates or space aliens is very funny also.
those aren't fence posts in the background, they are lightning rods from the tops of houses. Its deep, baby! Real deep.
What the hail is going on with the weather? Sorry. I know it's corny, but I couldn't resist.
No matter how you try to rationalize it, that is a ton of hail. Drifted or not.
And He will speak, and tell you "My name is the lord thy DOG!" Right?
Seriously, enough with the religiosity. You have no proof. You keep saying it's "in the book." Well, there's a lot more information in other, better-written, better-researched books that I'll trust over the words of some wigged-out political cartoonists (like Dante, or John). And if I want entertainment, there are more coherent plot lines and realistic (or unrealistic) stories to go with.
Also, pretty sure tornadoes were never mentioned in the bible. Probably the closest they ever saw to one was a dust devil. No hurricanes, either. They had a heat lightning storm, I think. And a few floods. Some lake made of fire or sulfur, depending on who's asked. Volcanoes, earthquakes, droughts. But no tornadoes or hurricanes.
Guess omnipresence only extended to the Middle East back then, huh?
Also, it's funny that the religious come onto a science article and spout their nonsense up and down the thread, pre-empt complaints about religiosity on a science blog, then act like they're being persecuted by the government when other people tell them to shut up if they have nothing useful to add. And often, not even that. They just need to get their persecution complex filled, I suppose. Still, I'm happy to oblige, except I don't have any lions to feed you to. I suppose ridicule and irreverence will have to do.
StateAtty, I do not see how my belief in the bible is religious extremism or how my beliefs and thoughts require policing. I thought the Bill of Rights protected my right to hold a viewpoint no matter how extreme it is, as long as I am not impinging on the rights and freedoms of others. You do not have the right to say that I cannot believe what I believe and part of my belief system extends into the realm beyond this life- that isn't gloating. My belief system does improve the situation we currently exist in. Judeo Christian values provide for those that are in need and provide the very basis for organizations like the Red Cross. Countries that don't have that background struggle with the very idea of creating safety net type of organizations. I believe that my freedom to worship and believe in Jesus is increasingly coming under attack. We don't want to lose the right to practice our chosen religions, that will destroy this country no matter what beliefs we want to hold. I don't agree with extremism, but believing in the bible as the inspired word of God is not extreme.
Oooh, 4 feet of hail in Texas. Not unprecedented, not even impressive. If you don't believe it, get your head outta yo...nevermind, keep it in there.
Would a resonable person believe that the 4 foot drifts are actually where the rain carried the hail pellets. I assume those are 12 foot fence posts visable in the background.
I know it hails in Texas but 4 feet that is a whopper. Maybe 4 inches and then it drifted into 4 foot walls carried by the water.
OH NO.... God is punishing Texas because Rick Perry ran for President...
Its all faked photoshop I tell ya. Al Gore, where are you !!!!
Before it hits a major city? We just had 13 tornados in the Dallas area about a week before this. And we had 6 inches of hail piled up 4 miles north of McAllen that was baseball size. I don't think we have to wait. And BTW it is about 70 degrees in Amarillo theses days and 90 degrees on The Rio Grande.
StateAtty;
And leftist, communist dictatorships have and continue to inflict as great amount of suffering. China, North Korea, Most @!$%# holes in Africa, etc, all godless leftist communist or Fascist regimes. 15,000 people will die in Africa before sun down and every one for the foreseeable future, for no reason at all. NO ONE has killed people that fast since Hiroshima. Why no outrage about these godless Leftists killing people like their is no tomorrow? Fault religions if you will, but the leftist is just a dangerous as the zealot. Their zeal comes in another form, but no less dangerous.
Texas, the great armpit of the USA!....worst weather and downright ugly........
God Bless America ! Land that I love. Stand beside her, and guide her through the night with a Light from above. From the mountians to the praries to the oceans (BY THE WAY TEXAS HAS THEM ALL) white with foam. God Bless America (and especially Texas) my home sweet home.
I've seen lots of hail in Texas, never saw anything quite like the picture. Normally once it gets much bigger than pea size, it gets streaks of rust color in it.
I saw one hail storm in which big slabs of ice fell instead of stones.
Oh, silly grandpa! That was when you slipped on the ice and fell on your head! Your head hit the slab, not vice versa! Now, time for your "medicine."
All this crazy stuff is in the Book. Just have to read it.
Irrelevant. Just becasue you read a mythological cult book, doesn't make it real. The BuyBull is chock full of ridiculous stories that will never prove real, no matter how many times you read it or tell someone else to read it. It's still just an unprovable, mythical cult book...nothing more.
Just another day in Texas :). Crazy but... @!$%# happens. All you experts and global warming bozo's get the Hail off here already.
Nico_____1946,
If you are keeping score I would have to say alot more people have died in the name of your God than any other, maybe even all of them put together....but who's keeping score, besides they were all godless heathens and savages anyway - right?
You need to be careful with what you lay at the feet of religion or the lack thereof.....someone might point out where the bodies are buried.
Just sayin
Oh and for all you self important "climate changers" the Earth has been here for millions of years the climate has changed thousands of times and now you want to claim it will change in your lifetime as a direct result of something you did.....get a grip.
Man is somewhat full of his self importance....he has drawn up a calendar, seasons, and years to pigeon hole Mother Nature.....unfortunately Mother Nature doesn't really pay much attention to it and when she doesn't you describe it as a phenomena, a spiritual awakening, or a sign from God....really!
Governor Perry obviously didn't pray for rain properly, so Texas got 4 feet of hail instead.
Y'all need a better governor.
So what you're saying Yank, is that the earth did not orbit the sun once every 365 or so days and had no climate in relation to it's position in that orbit until man came along? I did not know that. You learn something new every day.
No RCH I am saying the exact opposite.....the world turns and orbits and did so long before we got here and will likely continue to do so after we are gone. I just don't think that man has had such a massive effect in the last 50 - 70 years that the climate is going to "change" as a result.
However I am a conservationist, ecologist, hunter, and one who believes we should live in harmony with Mother Nature.....fossil fuels, air conditioning, strip mining, clear cutting, fracking, waste of natural resources all bad....bad bad bad!
Did you see the text where a woman stated that there are no big rock in west Texas! Must be spending all her time in the closet!!!!
Have you been to Amarillo? It is so flat you can see for miles.
I've been out Amarillo way. Flat, flat, flat, flat followed by flat...
Mountains in Texas too. What's your point?
The mountains in Texas represents the REPUBLICAN egos and the mountains of political corruption.
C'mon Fosz, et al, give the politics a rest, eh?
1) we have mountains .. you just have to dig down about 1000 feet to find them.
2) This is not the first time we have had this amount of hail ... didn't have social llmedia then.
3) The 'rocks' in the Amarillo area are not large enough to to reall be called -for the most part- rocks.
4) Hmmmmm I'll have to think about the Republican ego thingy.. will follow your lead elk-bull.
5) D'ya ever consider that the fenceposts sit on a bit of higher ground? The hail has been washed into a low spot. However, the wrecks caused by the hail on the roads and the blockage of traffic by four foot drifts .... is real.
Jack ... keep your property ... don't need a cat box.
For those of you who have never been to Amarillo, the biggest rock there is a grain of sand and Texas' only mountains are in Big Bend, a long, long way soutwest of Amarillo on the New Mexico border.
@MsWheezer
Miles and miles of nothing but miles and miles
I'll bet you don't think a freshwater lake can catch fire either. The Amarillo area is so flat it makes an ocean view seem lumpy.
Not in that area there isn't thats the great plains.
You can get upset at Fosz, but only because he's right...
Oh, "Hail" ya everything IS big n Texas!
And, so is the REPUBLICAN corruption of Texas.
Fosz...I reiterate, give the politics a rest. We're getting more than enough of it on TV and in the newspapers.
Always got be an idiot in the crowd...give it a rest liberetard.
Libretard?
Yup there is always an idiot or two in the crowd.
Okay Fosz, there always has to be at least one A$$ in the group.
So tell me, what was the cause of all the weather situations and devastation last year in Democratic states.............??????
The Fosz-4254828's post is ridiculous - he KNOWS it's ridiculous, and that's his point.
It's not a serious comment - he's lampooning comments by Conservative Christians that natural disasters are God's wrath on the people of that area because they aren't conservative or christian.
I think The Fosz is pointing out that natural disasters are not God's wrath toward non-conservatives or non-christians, as Texas is very conservative and Christian.
Hey Fosz,
are you sayin that there is no corruption in the democrap-libtard party? No, they wouldn't lie, steal or cheat...they’re the party of compassion and understanding and love...(barf)
They are stealing our God given American liberty. so go crawl back under the pile of hail you came from and go back to sleep.
I live close to Amarillo, about an hour north. And sorry to tell all of yall... yes we did have that much hail and rain, we are still currently under flash flood warning because of so much. The reason all the water is flooding is because all of the HAIL, blocked the drainage... so yes, we did get 4-5ft of Hail, if you actually live in this part of texas we all know, there isn't any rocks, there is flat dirt and grass, why do you think we get so much DA** wind??? There is nothing to block it, just like everything else. So, before you call the weather people liars...and us in lil ol' panhandle of texas, get your facts straight
@MirArt23 - I think the people that are making angry denials about this story aren't reacting this way because they have some innate hatred of West Texans or think that they're fundamentally dishonest.
I suspect that they are climate-change denial-types who usually have this same automatic reaction to stories about unusual or severe weather - that they're fabrications of the 'climate-change' conspiracy'.
I don't think that they necessarily have something personal against West Texans, . . . unless West Texans are part of the conspiracy . . dun dun duuun.
...you're not, are you? Just asking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw
Ive asked over and over again for dems to be honest and post things they dont like about president Obama?
Ive never seen a responce once,so to his supporters i guess he is perfect.
One thing i remember about Romney is his support for global warming,wich i beleave is just a way to tax and control people.He has had to work with a democrat controlled state government,so mabe he would actually get congress to do something.
I'm no expert, but I highly suspect that neither Romney nor Obama caused this weather. The hail is a natural occurrence.
Do you believe that's they way Liberals, or anybody, for that matter really thinks? I'm getting pretty fed up with this rationale. We are not "supporters" or "followers". He is the President of these United States. He is OUR President, like him or not.
I'm a registered Independent who voted for Obama. While I have a great admiration for the man, I can also say that I'm extremely unhappy with some of his policies and lack of promised policy changes from the previous administration. It's always easy to make sweeping generalizations from your own comfort zone that fulfills your preconceived notions of blind and adulating Obama "worshippers". You don't have to go too far to find Liberal criticism of the President, if you take the time to look. I guarantee you our views of this Presidency are more nuanced than "him good, them bad".
As a liberal, I care as much about the direction this country is going in as any conservative. If our political leaders and partisan talking heads would just shut up and stop with all the vitriol and partisan gamesmanship, we would see that we all have more in common than they'd have us believe. This divisiveness is the real cancer that keeps all of us from coming together as Americans.
Fosz, lynden Johnson and Billy Sol Estes were hard core democrats and two of the most corrupt human beings ever known.
ronj
You never asked me?
Here's one.....he was too weak kneed in his fight with the republicans, he caved too early. When he had the house and 60 votes (well almost) he could have gotten more passsed....big mistakes.
Here's another....He was naive enough to think that the republicans would bargain in good faith...dumb move.
Here's a third...why was he playing with the birth certificate. Just to let the republicans liook like fools wasn't a good use of our time....not nice Barry. Although it worked!
He didn't close Gitmo...he should have just brought the prisoners here into a ferderal prison and not cared about the locals not liking it and then he should have given them all a fair trial.
He didn't stop renditions....that's the worst thing he did.
So he's not perfect and NOBODY who I know (and being a thinking educated person almost all the people I know are what you would call liberal) thinks he's perfect. But he has one thing over the republicans....he's sane!
Well, that's not because they were democrats. That's because they were both from Texas.
Four feet of hail huh? Then those fence posts in the background must be about 8 or 10 feet tall, am I rite?
Just sayin!!!
It looks like the hail drift is a bit higher where the fireman is standing with a bit of slope going farther into the background. Having said that, due to perspective, I would imagine that the posts in the background could have maybe 2 feet or so sticking out of the ice...Maybe three. Just a guess.
I think you nailed it- looks like a drift to me also from wind or rain piling it up like a wash along a river. Glad I was not there, even small hail hurts like heck. As far as the fence post goes to me it appears that is not where the hail piled up.
Please note the FENCE POSTS in the background. Fence posts are not 8 FEET TALL!!!!! A fence post in a field is about five feet at most.
What happened is that the hail got washed into a ditch by the tree inches of rain and then the rain cut through it providing a palce to stand. There was not a four foot hail fall.
If you're stupid enough to believe an area got a general four foot hail coverage I have some nice seaside property in the Mojave Desert I'd like to sell you.
Let it hail, let it hail. ..... let it hail.
Just because there's not a blanket of 4 feet of hail doesn't disprove that it happened. Anyone who has experienced large snowfalls in flat areas that are prone to high winds knows that some areas drift and some areas are bare.
I'm not saying they got the 4 feet, but just because the fence posts are showing doesn't mean anything.
So all these organizations are just lying for some sort of elaborate hoax so that you clever commentators can ferret out their deception designed to pull the wool over your eyes? It's a good thing you guys are so on the ball. The fence posts in the background obviously didn't get as much coverage as the area in the foreground of the image did. When I witnessed a similar event it was very thick in a very small section of town and only a few miles away there was nothing. It isn't like a broad snow fall or something. Very poorly written story. The writer should be ashamed to have reported it in a way that called into question the obvious facts from the reporting organizations. When it snows with drifts up to 10+ feet in Alaska, they don't write stories questioning if it really snowed or not. I'm sure the insurance companies will love taking on your perceptions. "I'm sorry sir, but your claim is invalid because it obviously didn't really hail there according to msnbc and it's hyper-intelligent commentators."
A 4 ft drift of snow or hail does not mean they got 4 feet of hail everywhere. Pretty simple, drifts of hail are formed by the stuff floating and washing away in water.
This hail filled in a depression in the ground, as the storm died down and this stabilized the water continues to flow and cuts a channel at the lowest point. This happens everywhere you get a big hail storm with big enough open areas for the stuff to accumulate in a concentrated spot. Those fence posts in the background of course are on higher ground than where the guy is standing otherwise the channel through the hail would have formed over there.
Excuse me. I thought those things in the back were power poles. Fence post are usually closer together i thought especially at that distance or perspective. Just saying. Could be fence post, could be power poles. I wouldn't know. I do however believe that the weather service is generally giving us accurate information. Starting a national hoax such as this which can easily be disproved by the citizens of Austin Texas is pretty insane. Several people from Austin seem to have reported on this comment page that yes the hail did fall 4 feet deep. I know many of the people here seem have a hard time believing people simply because of their geographic location, but surely we can avoid believing that the entire city of Austin texas is in cahoots with the evil weather service to perpetrate a hoax of this nature.
Yep they're deer fences. 12 feet high. They have them in some places in Wisconsin too. Namely at Sandhill wildlife refuge in Wood county. Josephine Austin is about a 6 hour drive from Amarillo. I don't think anybody in Austin is likely to run up there to look at hail.
wildlife fences ARE 10-12 feet high in most states.
I'M JUST SAYIN!
I know this is true. I've seen severe hail storms in west Texas before. One that lasted about 30 minutes left about 4-6 inches of icy/slushy/snowlike compact mix on the roads in one small area of town. It made driving almost impossible with how fast it accumulated and the visibility was almost zero--I was on the road when it hit-that soap suds comment is exactly how it looked to me too-for a few seconds I couldn't even figure out what was going on. It was spring/summer time so it melted in about an hour or two. In Amarillo where it is colder, I could see it becoming a real mess. If it was coming down for that long, 4 feet plus is definitely possible.
If that is actually 4 ft of hail and not rocks what are the fence posts in the background? 7 or 8 feet tall? That would be the tallest fence post I have ever seen. I could maybe see a small area where it was piled up by wind or something but not a big area.
If you actually would bother to read the article it clearly states the hail was drifted up like snow drifts and the rain mixed in causing compact ice. It took several hours to clear US 287, which is a highway equivalent to an interstate highway.
Then it wasn't 4 feet of hail. It was some amount that drifted.
Hail that drifts? Could happen, I suppose. Why, I 'member one time up in the panhandle it got so cold our words froze as soon as they got out of our mouths. Had to heat 'em up in a fryin' pan jist to find out what we were talkin' 'bout.
Sounds liek a Texas tall tale to me.
Have you ever heard of sloping ground? That's why the snow piled up in a drift, it was in a low spot!!! The fence was on higher ground!
Sloping ground in Amarillo? That place looks like a tabletop.
people. pay attention! wildlife fences along Interstates ARE about 10-12 feet high. criminy, wake up!
I can believe it. About 10 yrs ago it hailed so
So as far as extreme weather NOW, no just another freak of nature and they happen all the time.
If it happened all the time, it wouldn't be a freak of nature, it would be normal. Freak storms are the exception and only happen every once in a while.
It hailed here a few times too, but this is 4 feet!
This is just God answering the cry of the earth......and, this is just the beginning.
Fosz - OMG!! dare we say APOCOLYPSE? LOL
This is like Nostradamus, 2012, Apocalypse all mixed in. Next thing they will find fish in that ice.
It only hails once every ten years in Texas?
No wonder the drifts are that big :)
Actually it hailed a month before that in McAllen Tx about as far as you can get from Amarillo. Those hailstones were baseball size.
If anyone has been in or around the Texas panhandle, except for the Canadian River Valley it is some of the flattest terrain on this planet. Its so flat you can see the curvature of the earth. And for crying out loud, if the National Weather Service and the local sheriff tell you its 4" feet of hail... Believe them.
This will be the year that some town in Texas gets hit with a freak autumn blizzard, two days later has record high temps and an F4 tornado, and then a magnitude 6 earthquake the next day. They would rename the town Bueno Suerte, TX.
Oh, great, something new for stupid loudmouth braggart Texans to crow about.
Nobody is crowing about this pilgrim. Just reporting what happened. If you don't like it, move on. Who is the stupid loudmouth here?
No, Texans will be crying for more Federal subidies. Take notice of Texas...it shall happen to all that are corrupt.
Fosz - from your posts about Texas, you must be in Oklahoma or Arkansas?
just sayin' heh-heh
I'm from Oklahoma and now I live in Arkansas, and Texas is, in my opinion the greatest state in the Union and the only one that was ever an independant republic! I'd move to Texas but I don't think I would like the weather there. It's always too hot or cold or dry or wet or something.
Hey Fosz, EVER heard of Washington D.C.? Take the tin foil off your head and then feel free to ...........!!!
That's a real picture... it's very dusty in the American southwest. Most snow or ice starts to look gray or brown pretty quickly.
Re: the fence posts, either it was a very tall fence, which is not unheard of, or the drift the fellow is standing in was very thick right where he's standing, but much shallower about 30 yards back. It would make sense for him to stand in the deepest part, since that was the whole point of taking the picture.
More importantly, nobody in the Texas Panhandle is disputing the photo. They all know what happened, and believe me, you can't get an entire geographic region to participate in a "weather photo conspiracy."
Massed and drifted 4 feet piled hail do not count as having dumped 4 feet anywhere. Get a life. Obviously this guy has never seen a snow drift.
Could it not be the rafth of God......and, the warning to all that are corrupt?
Fosz - it's "wrath," please try and use spell check, eh?
We would all like a detailed connection between this event and
"all that are corrupt." Thank you.
It was the Mexican brown God of sausage "El Bracero" that huffed and puffed dis here brown storm.When all religions get toguether and decide which one is the right one, i'll join.
How's that "There's no such thing as Global Warning thing working out for ya!".
The earth has heated and cooled itself a million times over long before humens where here and it will continue to do so long after we are gone. "global warming" my A**! We are but an ant farm on a lava rock and at anytime, can be wiped off the face of this planet. WE do not have control over this. It's called nature.
Here Roxy, NASA even has nice pictures for you so you don't have to read about global warming...
http://climate.nasa.gov/keyIndicators/
And I'm not a humens
Global warming causes ice in Texas? warming=ice?
Sean and Roxy: you're both being ridiculous. Sean, you can't attribute a single storm to "global warming." And Roxy, you can't draw scientific conclusions from coincidences of the past. It's a failure of logic to suggest that just because the earth has heated and cooled in the past, there's no way we can affect the process ourselves. It's the same as saying, "Drunk driving is fine because wrecks have happened countless times before and alcohol had nothing to do with them. A tractor trailer could wipe you out at any moment, so you have no control over what happens on the road. Drink up!" (In your case, I think it's spiked Kool-Aid.)
Rick
Yes, the warmer temperatures allow more water to be dissolved in the air, and then snow when you are just hanging around freezing it dumps more snow. This time, the hail, which is not caused by the same factors as snow, was caused by a partucularly energetic storm.....Energy = heat (it doesn't matter how you got there) Therefore global warming produces more violent storms.
Simple thermodynamics....You did take thermodynamics of course, otherwise you wouldn't feel qualified to make a statement...right?
So your content for Humans to just go extinct? And here I thought man being able to use tools and alter our condition set us appart from the animals.
Roxy;
You start your comment by saying the Earth has warmed and cooled in the past. What term would you use during the period of time that the Earth had warmed? I would suggest the term global warming would be appropriate.
We've had that here in Colorado Springs. Some areas just get intense hail where 4 feet is dumped in one go - sounds like the end of the world. We had 18-24 inches of hail on our property in June of 1998 - it stripped the paint off of all the trim on the east side of the house, and my deck looked like it had been chewed up by beavers. We had 4 feet on the deck, which broke through the window screens and piled up in my dining room and kitchen sink. Awesome storm; the trees still haven't completely recovered - the storm stripped the east-facing branches bare. They had to plow us all out. So it really does happen.
The hailstorm in McAllen Tx a month ago tore the stucco off of houses and broke 20 windows on one side of a building my landlord owns there.
Assuming that stuff melts like fire on ice cream in Texas. I believe them - that state has some of the worst and weirdest most extreme weather. Extreme heat of 100 degree + for weeks on end during their summers, tornadoes, sleet, ice storms, black ice, hail, hail and more hail.
You all can enjoy it - I feel your pain but not your weather.
Their shall be a lot worse to come.
"Their" shall be worse...? Their what?
Get out your Strunk and memorize 'their,' 'there,' and 'they're."
We all think you for your diligence.
They meant HELL, not hail. It was a typo! It is Texas, afterall.
When I was stationed in Texas (back when Jesus was still a boy) the locals would tell me that in Amarillo it would be blowing rain in your face at the same time sand was blowing at your feet! I believe it to this day!
The one's telling the story sounds like a true Republican.
Fosz - Really? Please pardon my obtusity, but I don't see it. Could you please explain the logic of your statement?
Elk... Fosz is a troll in case you haven't had the pleasure of meeting one yet. It's usually best to just ignore their comments and not respond to each and every one of them.
I have been there in the Texas Panhandle region when a dust storm started in front of a squall line. When the rain started it was raining mud.
gwnyvere - TY, but I got that. I have this unfortunate need to tweek bigotry and stupidity when I find it!
I'm workin' on it, but at my age, it pretty much is what it is! LOL
Elk bull you've never experienced horizontal rain ask anybody in tornado alley about it. From Texas north to Iowa it can happen.
B.S. Look at the fenceposts! They drove fenceposts into this hail? Or are they 7ft fence posts How tall is that damn firefighter? Thats granite. It's so flat there (except for the rocks) i watched my dog run off for 3 days.
Your PHD is showing. (proven halt in development)
That is just ridiculous. I sentence you to live in Texas.
Yeah, damn those meterologists and all their sciency-crap!
They have deer fences in that area. Deer fences are often 12 ft high. Want to see some without coming to Texas go to Sandhill wildlife refuge in Wood county Wisconsin.
I live in TX,and yes the weather suxs the land of 2 seasons, Hot Summers,and Crappy the rest of the year!
Wake me up when the frogs and locusts start.
I'll tell ya, the globe is definitely changing. I live in NJ and we didn't really even have a winter here this year. I was wearing a pullover shirt outside here and there all winter. No snow. Beats 10 below. The skeeters are going to suck this year........
Out...
Same here fellow Jersian. I don't even know where my coat is, maybe in the attic.
Peace!
Same here in the Part of Ohio I live in Creek Dog. I don't think we fell below 30 and had a total of 6" of snow that lasted a day. We normally average about 3' of snow and nothing to see wind chills of -30.
sure stuck it good to the heat bill.oil and gas companies compensated by higher gas prices.
Nope...looks like rocks to me. I knew i'd figure it out...that picture was taken in Bedrock...and there's ol' Barney standing out front...phew...glad I could see what was going on!!!!
I suspect the fence posts are 5 feet tall, I bet the "hail drifts" are taller where the fireman is standing which makes the fence posts look much taller. This is possible. I've seen it as well. The weather in West Texas is crazy stuff. Not very pretty country. Very flat, tumbleweeds, very dry, rattlesnakes, mesquite trees. No mountains and certainly no rocks.
Tammy I would suggest that you travel West on I-20 and get past Pecos. Once there begin looking left and right. OR you could travel South to Ozona and then travel Wet on I-10.
They certainly pale in comparison to the Rocky Mountains, but we do have mountains.
We have four completely different geographical regions in Texas. Tell us what you want we'll tell you where to find it.
the flooding reminds me of when I worked at movie theater while in college, the theaters got flooded, it was kind of cool, came to work, but we were closed until the water could get under control, folks were wading out to thier cars at a nearby motel, in water that was almost waist high
A hail storm in Texas has nothing to do with "global warming". It is more in tune with "global cooling" due to the upper cloud structures being colder than the lower earth temperature. We have been getting hail storms for centuries. But it is much easier for the couch potato environmentalists to call this "global warming" than to accept the fact that weather oddities happen everyday at some point in the world....
Did you miss the part of it being.. Four Feet!!!?
Did you miss the part where it said:
But Jose Garcia, chief forecaster at the weather service in Amarillo, told msnbc.com it probably wasn't the most hail the region has seen.
"Five to 6 feet deep hail" fell in nearby Dalhart, Texas, in 1993 during a very similar storm, he said. It took almost a month for some roads to reopen as the compact ice melted slowly. "It was almost like huge snow drifts" he said.
That was the cheif forcaster, a weather expert and professional, not just some braggin' cowboy.
The local sherriff also confirmed the report (but he may be a braggin' cowboy who didn't have to exaggerate much this time).
I'm not saying there is no golbal warming, I'm just saying weather oddities have been happening for a long time, and this is not necessarily because of global warming.
I've been to this area before. I've seen bizarre weather there too, like huge hail (big as a pool ball) and freezing fog (extremely nasty to drive in) and really big dust devils that look like a tornado on a clear hot day. Weird weather out there sometimes...
Dave
You are quite wrong about that. The higer enefrgy needed to take those hails stones and repeatedly go up and down throughj the freezing layer requires energy. Energy is heat, hence the possibility of global warming, but only if we see this more and more. A single event is weather, a decade of events is climate change. The air is always cooler ujp there (3 degrees/thousand feet), it has nothing to do with "Global Cooling".
To those beyond belief of natures intention..please read the book of Revelation in the BIBLE..chew on it, then read it again. One might be surprised that what is in print remarkably matches our world in this time and AGE..worldwide, wars massive destruction..drougt and flooding.etc, etc,etc..not a Bible thumper, just a believer.
Whether or not this particluar storm is related to global warming is certainly debatable.....whether or not global warming is "real" is definitely not. I hope you weren't implying that it is, but by the fact that you put quotes around "global warming" tells me you feel that way. You talk of "couch potato environmentalists" and in the same sentence you are playing "armchair climate scientist". There is real, documented, irrefutable proof that the temperature of the planet is, in fact, rising.
Defrauders should be jailed for scamming those who are desperate for jobs. And I hope if you are, you are jailed! Not for a day, not for a year, but for a long time. And I have just put a curse on you!
Thank you scientist Dave. And Jesus rose from the dead and the earth is only10,000 years old, and the people of living on Kiribati Island in the Pacific are crazy for believing their island will be submerged within the next 50 years due to climate change.