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Subscribe to RSSAfter a Colombian prostitute complained to police that members of the Secret Service hadn't paid her, a unit was replaced and flown home. NBC's Kristen Welker reports.
Updated 8:30 p.m. ET: The U.S. Secret Service put 11 employees on administrative leave Saturday as a congressman briefed on the situation gave details of their night with "presumed prostitutes" ahead of President Barack Obama's trip to a Colombia summit.
See the updated story here
Earlier, the Secret Service recalled a dozen personnel preparing for President Barack Obama’s arrival at the Summit of the Americas in Cartagena, Colombia, after allegations surfaced that some may have brought prostitutes back to their hotel rooms, according to media reports.
Also removed from duty were five military service members assigned to a joint task force to assist the Secret Service members, the United States Southern Command said Saturday.
Ron Kessler, who wrote the book, "In the President's Secret Service," told NBC News that he had learned that Secret Service personnel brought prostitutes back to their hotel room. They typically stay in the same hotel as the president, NBC News reported. He said that most of the 12 recalled officials were involved in the incident.
Kessler said authorities found out about the incident after a prostitute filed a complaint that she wasn't paid. Kessler said that police then alerted the State Department, which then alerted the White House and the Secret Service.
The service members were staying at the same hotel as the Secret Service agents who were recalled, according to a release from U.S. Southern Command. The personnel are still in Colombia, confined to quarters and under orders not to speak with each other. They will return to the U.S. on Sunday.
The unit was replaced by other agents, which was possible because the service overstaffs on international trips by bringing more agents than needed should one become ill, according to the Los Angeles Times.
The dozen Secret Service personnel sent back to the United States from Colombia were part of agency's Uniformed Division and not part of the president's immediate security detail. NBC's Kristin Welker reports.
General Douglas Fraser said this behavior is “not in keeping with the professional standards expected of members of the United States military.”
The Secret Service employees had arrived about a week before Obama touched down and stayed at Cartagena's Hotel Caribe, according to The Associated Press. A hotel employee told the AP that they had been drinking heavily throughout the week. Several reporters and White House staff also had rooms booked at the hotel.
Obama arrived in Cartagena, a port city, on Friday and attended a leaders’ dinner that night at the city’s historic Spanish fortress. Thirty-three leaders from the Americas are gathered at the summit to discuss economic policy, trade and immigration. The president was scheduled to hold two days of meetings before heading back to Washington Sunday night.
Word of the allegations leaked out Friday. The Washington Post reported that former Post reporter Jon Adler, president of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association, said the accusations relate to at least one officer being involved with prostitutes in Colombia.
Twelve members of the U.S. Secret Service have been excused from President Obama's trip to Cartagena, Colombia, amid speculation that misconduct involving a prostitute occurred. The Washington Post's David Nakamura joins MSNBC to discuss the situation.
Adler told the Post that the entire unit was being recalled for investigation.
He later told the AP that he had no specific knowledge of wrongdoing but had heard the accusations related to prostitution. Although prostitution is legal in Colombia when conducted in “tolerance zones,” soliciting prostitutes is considered inappropriate by the Secret Service, according to the Post. Additionally, the Post reported, several of the agents sent home are married.
Cartagena has a history of problems with sex trafficking, Politico reported, and there are nongovernmental organizations dedicated to the issue, Politico reported.
Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan would not confirm that prostitution was involved, saying only that there had been "allegations of misconduct" made against Secret Service personnel.
The matter was turned over to the agency's Office of Professional Responsibility, which handles the agency's internal affairs.
The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this story.
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I'm sure this crap started long ago. Clinton era? JFK maybe? Talk about compromising security by committing moral turpitude! No more winking at bull-scat please.
Another case of media manipulation. The news is trying to manufacture news from a non-news worthy story.
When we lost Walter Cronkite and Frank Reynolds, the news became stories about sensationalism.
Obama 's secret service is coming to town ....
Girls get ready .... "LOL"
I would say that the Title initiated on this article:
" Misconduct of Obama's Agents" was severely misleading by MSNBC!
This was not Obama's men but privately hired security from an agency.
And it's getting old how the Today Show and MSNBC tweeks the truth due to their political agenda!
Another screwy Obama story ....
What wasn't mentioned was who the prostitutes were being arranged for, this was an advance party, you know, making arrangements for those arriving later.
Take a look at Obama's entourage and you can guess who the prostitutes were really for!
NObama in 2012!
Obama is promoting drilling in Colombia .... "LOL"
Someone needs to tell "Today" that is it Colombia not Columbia.
The Agent thought that what he was doing was a secret.
Did I here these girls were probably under age.....
Typical...the cat away and the mice will play. They thought they were invisable in Columbia...better drug test em also...lots of magic white powder flowing down there.
indus.stre. shame on you. You have no cause to try and say they were arranging these women for the president. That is what you are alluding too. Shame on you. It's people like you who start lies and feed upon them. Shameful!!!!
Obama should reprimand his workers for not paying their whores. After all, these women are White House friends, they are not "stay at home moms".
12 secret service , that's quite a few ....
Obama's new "Dirty Dozen" .... "LOL" ....
Is Obama promoting free contraception over there too .... ??
Gosh Average Bear, moral turpitude began with Clinton or JFK? Really? What kind of world do you live in? Must be a FOX News kind of guy. At least when the "other side" is involved in sex scandals they're usually heterosexual instead of homosexual as on the religous right wing.
BFD! Who cares?! It doesn't cost the tax payers anything, it hurts nobody except their families and that is NONE OF OUR BUSINESS!
But NOOOOOO!. . . . The news media now has some dirt and they are going to talk about this till after the election.
MSNBC! Blow it our your ARSE! . . . Go do your job and get some real news. I didn't even read the story. Just the headline. AND I will not read it.
Democrats don't tell everyone about "we're better than you" and "we hold the moral high-ground", so since this isn't another hypocritical Republican like McCain talking family values while firing his cancer fighting wife, it's a non-issue. It's Republicans constant do as we say, not as we do, that makes them dangerous, they talk a good game and then do whatever they have to do to "earn" a cushy corporate fat-cat job post-politico.
Sounds like something a 12 year old would say. Hahah, lol, rofl, giggle... poopy stinky farts.
Stop being silly, I understand any excuse to attack your president makes you giddy but you just come across as childish. The safety of our leaders is a serious matter even if you have a hard-on hatred for them.
Where did you get that these were private security?
Bill in Mill Creek
It is a big deal. Those people are there to do a job and not pick up hookers. MSNBC makes a rare knock at Obama and you're up in arms about it, how funny.
I don't see how this is even a story. Are we all back in kindergarten now? They are men in a foreign port. Only been going on for oh, about, 200,000 years...
jdmb03,
NO! It's not news to reasonable people.
It would be news to uptight people that want to police our bedrooms. If a Secret Service agent wants to go to a country where a hooker is legal, hire one, get a gallon of lube, some scuba gear, a stuffed animal and a plan, go for it. Have fun. I don't care.
Go to your favorite channel and stop trolling here.
@bloggit
It's called acting like a professional.
Bill
I am a reasonable person and it is a viable news story. Professionals acting unprofessional is a news story, they are there to do a job.
And you wouldn't know what a troll looks like.
I as well cant see where it is a big deal. Yes they are there to do a job. However as with any job they do have down time. What they do in that time is well really none of our business. Since prostitution is legal there not a big deal. However not paying for services rendered is bad if you are going to play you need to pay.
As far as this rare knock on President Obama not hardly the case go back and review some other headlines that were twisted. Oh and the name is not Obama. He is President Obama please use the correct title when referring to the President of the United States. You may not like him however the man was elected and earned the title. I was less then pleased when President Clinton, and President Bush were elected but showed the respect that these gentleman were do.
Hey Marvin, how about we call him King Obama?
This is embarrassing for all Americans. It doesn't matter whether they were personal security for our President or not. My question is why do we have to pay for 12 people to travel to Colombia to check out the situation before the president arrives. Couldn't we be more efficient with say just 4 or 5 if they were doing their jobs correctly. I feel the same way about the 25 agents sent to Mexico to protect the Obama's daughter. Why did they need 25 instead of say 4 or 5. Why not just send in a platoon of soldiers, their already getting paid and they would do alot better job.
As much as I can't stomach Obama, this is not his fault. No one can lay it on him, nor anyone except the adult men who made stupid choices. Certainly not headline worthy.
Bill in Mill Creek...I'll bet you would have read it top to bottom if the headline contained the name bush, or Romney or any other Republican, wouldn't you? Like jdmbo3 said so correctly:
Kurt.... McCain? Were you aiming at Gingrich or was it.... John Edwards...?
jdmb03,
If you are reasonable, the you know Obama is going to get a second term. You hate that and I know that you do. This thing you call "news" is not going to do anything to stop his second term. But you just keep on trying.
News is about the economy, our troops in harms way, people getting good jobs, science, math, history and medicine. NOT titillating gossip of who is sleeping with who...
On this thing you call "news", let's do the math here: Secret Service agent's word over the word of a hooker.... Hmmm, . . I'm thinking, . . . Call me weird but I'll take the word of the agent.
Firs off Bill, you nor I know what is going to happen this fall, so do don't get too full of yourself. Second, we the people are paying the SS to do there jobs, picking up hookers is not part of the job. Third, if the hooker is wrong why did they send the agents home?
Aggie-345886,
There you would be wrong. Titillating gossip is the same regardless of the party. I take some small pride in being consistent at least in this area. What people do in their private lives will forever remain NONE OF MY BUSINESS.
People having sex is not news. We all do it. Often or as often as we can. But only in America is where we hear about it in the media. We're the laughing stalk of the world on sexual maters and how they get blown up in the media.
Brad Pitt and who he sleeps with someone is considered news (an example) and I'm sure he's just dead sick of it.
Bill-doe the Dill-doe....the only Dumb Fux around here is YOU! All the things you call "news" in 1.29 are things your BOY obama is a miserable failure with, yet you are so sure he will get a second term......don't hold your breath douche....on second thought....hold it, hold it.
So a bunch of guys that were hire from a private company, went to a party country, got drunk and had fun with "prostitutes" WHO CARES!!!!! They are guys having fun. You ever been to a spring break or a party??? Or vegas. Starting to re think where I read my news from. Just saying
What does this have to do with Obama? Secret Service Agents are civil service/ federal employees of the Treasury Department - not political appointees. Obama didn't hire them, he didn't train them, and he doesn't supervise them.
Most of them were there before Obama was elected, and will probably still be in the Secret Service after he's gone. I'm sure many of them were around when GW Bush was in the White House, and they probably liked foreign hookers on overseas trips back then, too :D
jdmb03,
There is no evidence anything happened while they were on duty. So, it's reasonable to say what may have happened was done on their own time (yes, even Agents have a personal life), thus NOBODY'S BUSINESS. As to why they were sent home, I don't know AND I don't care. That is an interdepartmental decision and still none of my business.
Bill-doe would only care if the sitting president was a Republican......so there. And Khalid...you're correct. He dididn't hire them, he didn't train them, and with some of the people he has associated with in the past...he could'nt be one of them either....the Secret Service WOULD NOT HIRE HIM!....now that's funny.
@jsfoo
Where do you get these people were from a private security company?
You don't seem to be getting it. When an agent is preparing for a presidential visit he or she is not off the clock. It doesn't matter that the president was not yet in the country.
It is reported in the article that the agents had been drinking heavily all week. Should something bad had happened to the president and afterward it was reported the Secret Service agents charged with his protection were hung over and not at 100% to do their jobs the people would demand their skin on a stick for excessive partying when they should have been professionals. So yes, this is a story because the agents poor behavior could possibly jeopardize the president. Even if I didn't vote for the president and would like to see him lose this fall, I don't want to see him injured or come to a violent end. I just disagree, I don't hate him.
Walter Cronkite was a Liberal Broadcaster and I laughed when he lost his real estate lawsuit against Donald Trump because his building was going to block his view. He was too cheap to buy the air rights when the building wanted to sell them
tiny,
I also found that interesting. Binge drinking all week? What's up with that? Seems like they will have some explaining to do, great way to screw up a career.
It's so funny now that MSNBC actually did their job and reported UNFLATTERING news about obama! The poor libs are beside themselves. I am just laughing!
Maybe Sharpton can have a word with the agents LOL.
???
Should have just paid the girl. What a moron. Thats the only reason this ever got reported. Otherwise it is no big deal. Having a legal prostitute on your off hours is a non event.
I guess the agents superiors don't agree with you because the agents were sent home and I'm sure they will be disciplined.
The Military is also "Obama's Agency". Ya wanna suggest they never hire hookers?
You people need to get real, and grow up.
A few thoughts:
1) This is very embarrassing for the President as it should be to all Americans. When these folks fly in advance to a different country in our military transports (several C-130's fly in advance of the Prez carrying personnel, the presidential limo, helicopters, weapons, SUV's, etc) they are representatives of our country in addition to the President of the United States of America. So all you idiots revelling about this just because "your guy" is not in office ought to think twice about your glee.
2) The Secret Service serves the office not the man. Many secret service details span presidents. These might very well be the same guys that protected President Bush. Or do you idiots think that they replace the entire Secret Service every time the presidency switches parties?
3) Fun and tempting as it may be (and believe me it is, I know first hand), they were there to do a job. It was very unprofessional of them to do this and they will be dealt with severely. Not to mention that is was an unexcusable breach of security to bring local civilians to the same place where presidential staff will stay.
4) The president had no control or knowledge of what the service's advance team is up to - so quit trying to tie it around his neck. Advance preparations are delegated to the person in charge of the president's detail - whom the president trusts implicitly. I wouldn't be surprised if he lost his job over this. In fact I think that Prez Obama has no choice but to fire him, independent of his knowledge of the situation. The president's hand has been forced to make a severe statement in the matter. That guy's resignation is as good as signed, sealed, and delivered. Expect those news next.
Jimbob and skinhead Eric secret service is run by the Treasury Department so President Obama didn't appoint them, some of them worked when GW was at the WH, so don't get your panties in a bunch!
So some SECRET SERVICE AGENTS, who are there to protect any/all "high-ranking" politician they are assigned to, went out to "procure" some prostitutes -- big frickin' hairy deal. If this had happened while ol' Newt was on the campaign trail, I bet it would have been swept under the rug -- and the rug dumped in the deepest part of the deepest trench of the deepest ocean.
They were NOT lining up any hookers for anyone but themselves, so stick all the petty partisan political BULL@!$%# where the sun don't shine, you stupid moronic political BULL@!$%# artists.
Okay where are the pics? Are these prostitutes hot? We had to see Congressman Weiner in his underwear during that scandal. I demand that we see the goods that these secret service agents purchased.
And I thought that Colombia was known for its coffee.
Any person trying to tie this to President Obama is the same low information voter that would never vote for a Democrat anyway. There is no need to get upset. That vote is already lost. I have to believe that a majority of voting Americans are smarter than that.
nothing new always happens throughout history...oldest profession....the guy went cheap and did not pay....you don't pay...you pay the price...what an idoit...hahahahahahaha
Can some of you please tae your thinking to the next level ? On a State Trip like this, Secret Service agents do NOT HAVE DOWN-TIME. Theirs is not a 9-5 job.
Now I see the ultimate : they actually too the hookers into the same hotel in which the President was staying. Do you get it now ? Think. How easy would it have been for an agent from the other side to make an agent pass out and then proceed to the President's suite or deposit an explosive device in the hallway ?
That is what causes the outrage.
Bear - this crap started in the beginning of time. It's the reason humans are still here. Our God given urge to breed. Our love for the camel toe.
The only funny part of the time republicans were trying to impeach Clinton for his famous blow job was how many of the republicans were having or have had extra marital affairs. It was at this time that Gingrich was married to #2 and boinking Callista.
Shameful comments!
Are any of you who with your insinuations (above) that the President of the United States must be involved, in this wrongdoing alleged to have been committed by government employees responsible for his security, aware that by maliciously besmirching the character of the President of the United States in such a manner you are also denigrating the office of the Presidency and insulting our country, the United States of America?
What does THAT make you? Not very thoughtful, nor civil, nor patriotic Americans, ... that is for certain. Patriotism is not about personal partisanship and unleashing your underlying hatreds at every opportunity. Ypou release such venom at the expense of outr country, and diminish the potential and gains which can come from civil dialog and seeking consensus.
Challenge the President, whomever occupies the office, on the basis of your personal disagreements. Do not besmirch the character of the duly elected leader of our country because you disagree with him/her. That is a reflection of YOUR character, not of the person you are insulting.
In the article,
General Douglas Fraser said this behavior is “not in keeping with the professional standards expected of members of the United States military.”
The general doesn't know enough about the military to be able to comment on prostitutes. When I was in the Navy back in the 1960's prostitutes could be found in every port the Navy used, including those ports that were stateside. And, most sailors had no objection to using their services. However, we did pay them. Maybe that is what the general meant. Failure to pay for services rendered was very unprofessional.
The Secret Service in this and many other situations do not have down time. I think it is disgusting that this is how officials choose to represent us. How bout be professional, respect our country and give the other countries something to be impressed about...not this BS.
Just another symptom of a disease that is running rampant through our government and military.
General McChrystal being relieved of duty for being disrespectful to the Commander and Chief of the U.S.
GSA's $820,000,00.00 Vegas Party.
"Fast And furious"
Solyndra
Libya
North Korea
Iran
Etc.
When the President of the United States shows no Moral Fiber or Backbone why should the People that he leads be expected to a live up to a standard that the POTUS doesn't live up to?
Why would the rest of the World respect a President who's foreign policy is based on poll results and what will hurt or help his election and popularity?
The Secret Service and military support were there for one purpose and being paid for by the Taxpayers, to prepare for a Presidential visit. The Secret Service are exposed and have privy to, or may here things, that are top secrete or above and have privileged access into places like the White House etc.
What if they get drugged and divulge secret information, get kidnapped and captured, and I'm sure they are now possible targets for extortion and are compromised.
Secret service agent receives a package in the mail with a note.
"We have pictures of you having sex with a Prostitute and doing drugs. You may not remember or maybe you do remember. Here's a small sample. We hope you enjoy the pictures. If you don't cooperate and do as we say we will send those pictures to your wife, your parents, your grandparents, your children, your superiors, etc.
You'll be contacted when we need you.
Signed, Your New Boss!"
David,
Are you suggesting that people only live up to a standard that is set by the President? Or do you believe that they might possibly make decisions based on a system of beliefs of doing the right thing? You must have a very low regard for you fellow Americans.
The President of the United States is the CEO of the United States and Federal Government. He is supposed to represent the United States and its people.
When you have a President who Accepts a million dollar campaign donation from a man who calls Sara Palin a "C", and says other derogatory comments about conservative women, and not a single word about that inappropriate behavior and language, and yet comes to the rescue of Sandra Fluke because she was called a "Slut" what does that say about the Presidents Moral fiber?
When the President of the United States apologizes to Afghanistan because religious books were burned but does not expect an apology from Afghanistan for the seven American soldiers that were killed because of that incident what does that say about the President?
When the POTUS attacks the Tea Party (by proxy of his pundits) and tries to make them sound like they are extremists radicals that just want to hurt the U.S., even though they never violated any laws, etc. but supports the "occupy" movement which has had thousands of arrests, destruction of Public and Private party, Rapes, Drugs, shutting down ports committing economic terrorism, and Burning the Flag of the United States of America, and not a single word admonishing the "Occupiers" behavior and the crimes they have committed, what does that say about President Obama?
I have faith in our fellow citizens. Obama will not be serving a Second term as the POTUS.
Talbott Gv- It was Bush's fault. Typical of the liberals to deny any wrong doings. This doesn't even involve Obama, so why do you people have to be so ignorant, negative, blaming the GOP, when they didn't do anything wrong. If anyone did anything wrong complain to the Secret Service. Liberals want to argue, just to argue. They argue, lie and deny anything and everything because they worry their ObamaBucks will stop coming. The time you need to worry, is when ALL the non libs stop working to bring money into the government. It's everyone else that supports you ignorant, uneducated, lazy, ungrateful people. "If you only had a brain!"
ps. As long as it didn't cost the taxpayers for them to get laid, more power to them. It's barry whose the biggest wh**e.
Why is this a big deal? prostitution is legal in columbia. I'm a federal employee and I bang hookers with tax payer money all the time.
Big Deal General Eisenhower had a mistress when he was over in Europe. President Roosevelt had a mistress by him when he died in Warm Springs Georgia. Kennedy was a swinger to. The media should get there head out of their ass, then they might see the news clear.
Who cares if they soliceted a prostitute , or were drinking, since niether could have been done while manning a post , what they do while off the clock is NO ONES BUSSINESS !
WHAT A BLATANT ANTI -OBAMA SMEAR CAMPAIGN ! only republican supporters would care , so they aren't gaining any support from THIS !
boy you're testy. smear obama? it has to do with an employee not obama. you might be a tad sensitive, but funny...
Colombia got screwed by Obama's visit ....
Talbott first off I'm not an Obama supporter and I don't think this reflects on him at all......but it does matter what they the people assigned to protect the President do. This is the type of behavior that people who would want to harm a President look for so that they can exploit it and those that participate in the described situations. Even though I will vote against Obama in Novemeber he is still my President and I want him protected and those protecting him to be professional in their jobs.
This is where I must strongly disagree with Talbott Gu and those who think the same.
What someone does in their private life, ie, when no one is looking, DOES MATTER. It is completely determinative of one's character and values. What you do when you think you won't get caught is who you are! For far too long, society has ignored and excused shameful, sometimes criminal, behavior and as a result we have a culture that knows no shame or embarrassment and engages in substandard conduct with impunity. It seems people have a sense of entitlement to act in any manner they wish because "they are not on the clock." Those who engage in inappropriate behavior set themselves up for possible extortion, blackmail, favortisim, and a whole host of other actions that in fact do affect the manner in which the employer's business is conducted. As in this case with secret service agents, the employer is the US and the safety and security of the POTUS (regardless of who it is) and the country itself could easily be compromised.
Lest anyone think I am advocating Big Brother in the marital bedroom, that couldn't be farther from my position. I am advocating that the more sensitive the position the more the person should have upstanding values and be of the highest moral character. I do not believe one can be a moral reprobate in his "off the clock" hours and not have that lifestyle affect the decisions he makes in his professional life. (Again, for the PC police he=she)
Just as America got screwed by obama's election
What?...The "Secret Cervix" got caught?
Partying for a week...on our dime......Nice
"Secret Cervix"
Now that was clever .... "LOL"
I'm always amazed by the dims,when its' one of their that gets caught,like Barnie Frank(me in my butt),then its nobodys business.When it's a Repub,then its' a national scandle!
Don't need silly stories like this to make Obama look like an ass,he does a good enough job of it by himself.
Nobama 2012
MSNBC has always been pro-Obama, so don't complain that one of Media Matters websites put an article on about the corruption of some of the Secret Service agents. No one said Obama was involved, so think before you speak, please. This is just more corruption in the government. Why should we be surprised! Washington, D.C. needs to be cleaned up and hopefully the left wing socialists will be gone and I pray we get some decent people to replace the thugs. Otherwise, this country will just go down the tubes.
you're right talbott gv. i'm sure fox news is trying to link this story to obama...angrywhitemale you're calling obama an ass? bush jr was the real ass...how about the lies he told about the reason for the war in iraq and outing that cia agent? i bet you didn't have a problem with none of that. you're an ass yourself
I see the rabid anti-Obama crew is out in full-force for this non-issue. Like Obama had anything to do with some SS staffers... silly, and it only demonstrates the deep hatred for your president and nothing more. there are millions of civilian and non-civilian workers in the Executive Branch and the President can hardly be accountable for the actions of them all. Try to find a legitimate reason to hate the man. Yeah, yeah, I know he's a funny color and has a funny name and that's enough for the Teabagger ilk.
MAS098...that's because Democrats don't run around telling people what to smoke, who to screw, who not to screw. We don't pretend to be the Moral Majority, so when your people do it, it is hypocrisy, when we do it...we just gettin it on...lol...sucks to be you...lol
I like how the liberals think that this not a big deal because it happened while Obama was president. If this happened under Bush you would never hear the end of it. I don't think what happened has any reflection on any president.
The pubs are so fond of strawman arguements that they must sleep in the hay loft. I never seen as many pub sqawking points since I accidently turned my radio to a channel broadcasting their Dear Leader Rush.
mark,
Do you have a point? Or are you just here to babble useless nonsense?
Hey Marvin, how about we call him King Obama?~jdmbo3
You can definately blame this one on bush. :)~jdmbo3
Do you have a point? Or are you just here to babble useless nonsense? I just want to know if you consider your posts to have some type of point given the above examples of rather sophomoric attempts at humor.
Actually mark my posts do have a point, I guess you just aren't getting it.
This is madness! Secret service men are human too. If there is any truth to the story, it showed bad judgement on their part. But lets be reasonable and sensible. They went into a country where prostitution was legal and they bought them some pussy. So what! It was not the first time or the last time. It is at most a personal matter between them and their family. All these guys need is a lecture from their boss. End of story.
Interesting how many people see this as some sort of Vast Right Wing Conspiracy To Smear President Obama. Actually, if I were one of the President's supporters, I would take pains to say that this shows that some values are shared, and that there are certain things that are impermissible when you have the job of protecting our nation's President. Even though I am not a supporter, I'll make the point myself. This event does NOT show there to be something depraved about the Administration or that it has set a low moral tone, it rather shows that there are values and standards that if violated the will cause the White House to take action. Good.
Rlquall,
I agree with you and I am supportive of President Obama. I essentally wrote the same in #1.47
You REPUKELICANS are a joke YOU keep calling them Democrats, nobody know's thier political party. The Secret Service is run by the Treasury Department, I'm sure they have Democrats, Republicans and indepentends working there!!!
How about forgetting all that "CON vs. LIB" bull@!$%# and just voting for who ever will do what is Right and Just no matter the cost to their personal bank account, political career, or how the "public" sees them?
Brought to you by a "tree-hugging 'Communist' liberal" who has, more than ten times in just the past month, seen Republican CONservative Tea-Taggers *gasp* VOLUNTEERING their time and energy helping other people -- AND THEY WERE OK WITH NOT BEING PAID FOR IT. Gawrsh, maybe they was *shudder* EVIL SOCIALISTS out to lead the whole world into utter Destruction and Oblivion!! **mwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.....................................
Spreading the wealth among the locals is great. I`m very much pro-hooker.
However, not paying, now that`s not good and usually leads to problems for foreigners in any country.
Even secret people need some lovin sometimes.......
Apparently you don't have a daughter that has been beaten into forced prostitution.
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Who cares if they soliceted a prostitute , or were drinking, since niether could have been done while manning a post , what they do while off the clock is NO ONES BUSSINESS !
OR: one of the guys couldn`t hold his licker....
“Human trafficking -- the equivalent of modern day
slavery -- is an affront to human dignity, and goes against everything our
country stands for. And yet, it occurs in so many communities; workers are
exploited for labor behind closed doors, hidden from the public eye. This
includes horrific incidents of sex trafficking, where women and girls are
forced into prostitution, often after being lured from other countries with
promises of legitimate employment and better lives.
“The Justice Department is committed to the aggressive
prosecution of human trafficking cases. In the last full fiscal year, we
prosecuted more human trafficking cases than ever before. Those 52 cases
charged 99 defendants with crimes related to labor and sex trafficking. Many of
these cases target complex international cartels and involve many victims.
“Last spring, for example, defendant Amador Cortes-Meza
was sentenced to 40 years in prison on sex trafficking charges. Cortes-Meza was
the ring leader of an organization that brought 10 victims, including four
juveniles, from Mexico to the United States and forced them into prostitution.
“The Justice Department’s aggressive prosecution of cases
like this one should send a signal to other would-be traffickers that their
actions will not be tolerated in America.”
[The White House, Posted by Tom Perez on September 02, 2011, “Protecting
the Rights of Women and Girls”, ]
The Secret Service “Dirty Dozen” are in serious trouble of their own making.
1: You are all idiots and should promptly go to hell. Your bat@!$%# insane fight about republicans and democrats, liberals and conservatives has nothing to do with the article or important discussion at hand.
2: With this and the whole party crashing thing by those nutjobs wanting TV access, the secret service better up it's ante. Excessive drinking, and prostitutes? RIDICULOUS!! Those are the two easiest routes for a foreign op to get intel or take action against our president.
3. I say our president because he is our president, he is not our messiah, and he is not the devil incarnate... Idiots.
4. Who's going to pay the prostitute?
I'd just be curious to know how many of these guys are married... Then I'd like to know what the DOM thinks about that.
Oh, Oh, even better, were any of them gay cheating on their married partner... Just saying...
Or do any of them go to church on Sunday?
This has nothing to do with the President...
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WOW, the liberals sure get upset when a Main Stream Media organization runs an article that could look bad for the Democrats.
The Republicans are used to it.
So being in the Secret Service gets you a free pass to break the law especially if it's a non-violent offense. This is why I prefer Ron Paul. If these were average citizens they would end up being investigated or arrested for something.
What does this have to do with Ron Paul? The same agents that have served Clinton, Bush and many presidents in the past and will be in the future.
Will Ron Paul fire all Secret Service and pick new one when he got elect? If that is the case, then you have an argument, otherwise you sound really stupid.
You are hilarious!!!! Seriously??? Of all the comments I have EVER read in response to a news story, THIS one is by far and above, THE most IGNORANT!!! 'Wizkid'? Now that's the ultimate oxymoron! LOL! Thanks for that gut laugh/ Peace, genius~
I love a good non sequitir once in a while. Voting for Ron Paul will fix misconduct by Presidential security details. In a related devlopement, Fords have been shown to get better gas mileage than Chevys in school districts which serve Minute Maid Orange Juice in preference to Tropicana.
I don't see anything in the article that indicates a law was broken. Prostitution is legal in many locations in Colombia so the fact that the agents solicited sex is not necessarily illegal. It is likely against policy and an unfortunate choice, but not really an international incident. Further, there is nothing in the article that would lead one to conclude it occurred during work hours or otherwise on the taxpayer's dime. So chill out, it is just sex. Shame on the one who didn't pay. You ruined it for everyone.
wizkid78232,
With a name like that one would think you actually know something, but that would be wrong.
Prostitution in Colombia is legal. So,... They were not breaking any laws.
In your case, wizkid would translate that you are full of urine.
Hey Bill how about you stop being a typical liberal and knock off the name calling?
bill-- well... i heard a story about this (sex tourism) and the legality. even if it's legal in that country, it's illegal for an american to pay for pink. right?
damnit disregard... it concerned if child prostitution is legal in that country, it's illegal for an american to buy.
jdmbo3,
Bill will stop the name calling, when the typical republicans will stop being hypocrits
What persons do on their off time is their business. Who is guilty here is MSNBC for taking a small incident and alluding to other wrong doings by the other 11 agents. Heavy drinking?! Define it! It is what most foreign sevice personnel do after work with collegues. One person hiring a hooker is really not our business. And all our comments on this blog is not going to change anything. MSNBC gets their advertising revenue increased do to wider viewership on a topic as old as the bible.
mark,
Try making some sense.
jdumb0,
I was making sense you just find it difficult to understand simple phrases
Virile male Americans overseas tend to turn the countries visited into brothels. Too many virile American males were visiting Cuba in the 50's which helped Castro's revolution to succeed.
You can actually blame this one on the BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!! and be tellin' the truth!!!!!!!
That's the truth !
Truth? Thats funny. Hooray for the troll that wants to piss off liberals with your immature BS. Yep your perfect. Hahahaa Just keep telling yourself that. Don't worry you will get another four years to perfect your perfection. Here's some advice. Put on some fresh panties. The one's you have on now are getting soiled. Big L for the kochroach.
It's definately the "bushes" fault!
Rcars12: No president is to blame. The men involved are not picked by any president. They are hired by the secret service. They and they alone are to blame. /what they did is wrong on so many levels and they need to be held accountable for their actions. They put the president at risk and all who travel with him. Shame on them and only them.
You can definately blame this one on bush. :)
Hey dummy! Eisenhower was president when the Cuabn Revolution happened.
It really doesn't matter which party is in power for this kind of thing to happen. Americans always like to pretend to be Lilly White at home but take their raunchy parties elsewhere in the notion that no one will ever know. LOL Actually it is not right to say that only Americans do this because all humans hide something at some time in their lives. After all, we are humans. LOL
And, if you think this wouldn't happen on Ron Paul's watch (like, there's not a snowball's chance in hell he will be Pres. anyway), then you're either asleep or on another planet. What would they be arrested for??? Naughty behavior off-duty? They broke no laws, they were just being stupid and may very well be terminated. If everyone was arrested for stupidity, you will be first in line wizkid.
I believe the article stated that the prostitute filed the complaint because she wasn't paid. If the agent or agents received services, but wouldn't pay then they brought it on themselves, and will probably lose their job(s) behind it. In which case it would be chalked up as sure stupidity.
Catgoddess, they are on duty around the clock on an assignment like this. And Ron Paul stands a better chance than Obama has for a second term.
These chumps are never off duty. and they are representing the US.
"We will continue to work with our international partners to target those who deal
in violence, narcotics, money laundering, and the exploitation of women and
children.” - said David S. Cohen, Treasury Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence, 2/23/2012
So these twelve were the "just boys" working "with our international partners?" They were committing crime and supporting slavery.
Actually, Mario, so far the only crime they have been charged with is failing to pay for services rendered. Prostitution isn't totally illegal where they were, and doubt that they actually solicited, just took advantage of what was offered. I can't say for sure on that, but do know how the game was played many years ago in a land far, far away.
Not to defend Obozo, but why was his name mentioned. The other people were drinking and soliciting prostitutes. This is just another example of the news media out of control.
Love NBC, but today they let me down. The name of the country is COLOMBIA not COLUMBIA. You would think they had somebody proofreading the stories :(
They do but he's illiterate!
That's cool if the secret service members solicit prostitutes on their own time. Man, that just sounds wrong. That being said, I don't think this is the fault of anyone but the person(s) involved. Obama needs to kick the secret service in the a'ss. 'Cause that's just embarrassing.
Obama increases drilling in Colombia .... "LOL"
Basically, the Secret Service is essentially never on their "own time", especially when deployed out of the country dealing with Presidential security.
Exactly! When the SS is preparing for a presidential visit they are not off the clock.
big ben and jdm,
Don't tou both think we have had enough of your sophomoic humor? Now that ben has posted the same boorish attempt at humor more than once it is now becoming rather lame......even for a Pubby troll.
Poor little markle...sooo butthurt, soooo angry.....
poor thom, always having to make analogies involving latent homosexual urges........kind of confused thom?
"State attempts to regulate prostitution by introducing medical check-ups or licenses don't address the core problem: the routine abuse and violence that form the prostitution experience and brutally victimize those caught in its netherworld. Prostitution leaves women and children physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually devastated. Recovery takes years, even decades - often, the damage can never be undone."
"The Link Between Prostitution and Sex Trafficking," U.S. Department of State website, Nov. 24, 2004
Mario 69 I understand and appreciate your position and tend to agree to some extent with what you say. However the website that you offer "The Link Between Prostitution and Sex Trafficking" should have included the word "illegal" before the word prostitution. Legalized prostitution at least gives the authorities some ability to scrutinize and control prostitution activities while illegal prostitution is, by necessity, always conducted in the shadows where it is very hard for authorities to exercise any control at all.
History has shown us that absolute prohibition of any of the so called human vices (alcohol and drug use, gambling, and prostitution) simply does not work. It never has and it never will as long as their are human beings drawing a breath. All of these activities have thrived through some of the most oppressive governments and regimes in the world. Even in the ultra conservative Middle East that is totally dominated by the Islamic religion all of these activities take place in the darkest corners of those countries. In fact some of the worst abuses of women and children are perpetrated there in the very name of the their religion it seems.
When Saddam Hussein was finally brought down it was discovered that his family had a huge wine cellar and a very large collection of pornography stashed at one their residences. Yet both alcohol and pornography were potentially grave offenses in the Iraqi society at the time. This only shows that in order to have any kind of control over a social problem it must be kept out in the open so that it can be controlled and regulated. Otherwise you simply create a very profitable and very unethical and cruel underground for the distribution of such materials and services.
Political and religious leadership really should all be required to take basic courses in human psychology to help them understand just who and what they are trying to lead. As the news tells us in many cases such people cannot even control their own urges and desires and find themselves exposed in their hypocrisy. LOL We will never be able to totally eliminate 'man's inhumanity to man' but by keeping the lights on we can perhaps make it more difficult for the unscrupulous to continue doing harm unobserved. I kind of like the analogy of protecting your property. You are safer with the lights on than in total darkness because you cannot see the bad guys in the dark. LOL
shepherd0886 -
Prostitution supports slavery. Slavery supports prostitution. There is the evil and the crime.
These "Dirty Dozen" are not merely committing a personal indescretion. Their crime is against human dignity and supports slavery.
Government controlled slavery is worse than illegal slavery. Take a moral stand.
Again, Mario, you have put your foot in it. Legalized is NOT government controlled, unless you call legalized alcohol and tobacco government controlled. Taxed, yes, advertising restricted, yes, but government controlled, hardly. Check with Nevada about who tells the call girls and prostitutes who they can or can't see, and who collects their paychecks, leaving them maybe enough to rent a room from a dozen tricks or more.
Leave it up to the media to sniff out what, maybe 1 guy that solicited a prostitute and throw it up to make national news and give Obama another reason to apologize for our country. This isn't news. Those guys are on the lower end of security detail manning a dumpster, entrance, whatever. Personally, I wouldn't do it, but they probably deserve a legal hooker in a foreign country on their own time. Report him to his boss. But once again, the media shows its disdain for these hard-working service people.
did obama say to the staff , im sorry for the way you were treated? did dick ever return the art work he carpetbagged as vice pres.? will yearning for zion ever know how many six figure horses he owns?
AS
They were there peparing for a presidential visit so they were not on thier own time.
One bad agent can spoil the whole bunch. But whos to say that maby he was lining up somthing on the side for the Pres. Who knows, the SS plays by their own rules. The main thing I am saying is why is the Pres down there when he should be here trying to get this country right, it seems he cares more about other countrys economic policys than our own.
dumb head... the president has to be were the national interest are... and south america has become the top national interest of the united states... without south america all products will go to the highest bidder and that means higher costs for the consumer in the united states.. that´s also you... remember the alamo. well now everything is upside down believe me.. .CONFUSIUS
these men... the´re only human beings.. that are made to look like superman... anyways their job is to collect information from whatever source ... and most of the credible information comes from the low classes where all the gossip is collected and retransmitted.... and now it´s a national crisis that a few man were at their post collecting credible information... for god´s sake what´s the press becoming.. this is a scandal just to sell papers and to discredit some very important information... CONFUSIUS
I'm sure this will be 100% Obama's fault. Now Mitt Romney will use this to campaign on!
Very funny thing you just said as this has been Obummers mantra for 3 god-long years. "It is 100% Bush's fault. And you have the balls granny, to turn it into a 'bad' things republicans would do. What a crock!
I don't think it's 100% Bush's fault, but the ship was sinking when Obama took office. Now is Obama the best Pres ever? No Is the economy coming back? Yes just not at the rate everyone wants. Is there a viable Republican candidate? Not a chance. I actually listen to the candidates and if I think they'll do a better job I vote for them. Doesn't matter their party. What's going to kill the Republicans this year is they're so focused on making Obama a one term president. that they are not talking about the issues. They need to talk about what they WILL do not what they think the others are doing wrong.
Granny,there so many of you uber left wingers here last noght just pilfering republicans who have had daliences in the past!Now you are worried about this being used by Romney?It doesn't seem to bother you paid operatives to make all sorts of accusations all the time on these theads,trying to sway people towards voting for your guy! Duplicitous!
The repubs are the only ones talkingh about issues,namely jobs.While Berrie and has crowd are busy trying to defind the repubs as women,gay,lesbian hating,church going nuts!Which papers do you read,Pravda!
mas098,
The democrats didn't have to do anything to make the republicans look like they hate women, gays, lesbians, disadvantaged and minorities.......they did it all by themselves
LMAO, "Berrie" doesn't have to do a damn thing. In their hatred for one man, the repubs are more than willing to destroy a whole nation, then blame Pres.Obama for the very failures they created.
What do they care??? If they make this nation the worst place on earth, they'll just relocate to Dubi (Yes, it is not spelled correctly. Wanted to give the spell check nazis something to rally around..hehe))
Much Love n Peace to ALL,
Da Pup >:o):
((( My apologies, I'm sure the words Love, and Peace will offend some. May even scare the s**t out of a few.))
"It's a hardball world, son. We've got to keep our heads until this peace craze blows over."
Full Metal Jacket
The women in Columbia are beautiful and a bit hard to resist.
I don't care what they do when not on post, it helps their economy.
I'm sure it pissed Obama off but he will get over it.
It doesn't help their economy when "johns" refuse to pay for services rendered.
In that line of work, it's as good as a "law". No doubt they are expected to conduct themselves in a proper manner. It is beyond belief that a married agent could be compromised by a indiscretion?
Testimony
Luis CdeBaca
Ambassador-at-Large, Office To Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons
Prepared Testimony Before Subcommittee on Human Rights and the Law of the Senate
Committee on the Judiciary
Washington, DC, February 24, 2010
“As President Obama’s Ambassador-at-Large to Combat Human Trafficking, I am
responsible for coordinating our efforts in the global fight against contemporary forms of slavery.
“As President Obama has repeatedly emphasized about our general approach to the
promotion of human rights, our ability to help other governments combat trafficking
is only as strong as the example we provide through the strength of our
domestic response. As the chairman of the Senior Policy Operating Group which
coordinates interagency policy and supports the President’s Interagency Task
Force to combat human trafficking, I’m proud to support the Department of
Justice as it continues to lead the world in its prosecutions of all forms of
traffickers and work with its staff at home and abroad on our collective
mandate to stop child sex trafficking.”
This "Dirty Dozen" of the Treasury Department are serious offenders.
Oh I didn't see the part where it said trafficked children were the prostitutes?
Are or you assuming all prostitutes are or were trafficked children?
Don't understand all prostitution?
Stupid fellows. They had great jobs and now their stupidity may cause them to lose that- not to mention what it will do to their marriages. These men will be bringing home Herpes, HPV and god knows what else home to their wives. (Condoms don't cover everything).
There are a lot of hard-working people who need jobs and would choose to be responsible and gladly step up to the plate to take on these jobs.
what the heck does a sitting pres of 3yrs have to do with people that have been agents longer than that? Did he train them too? I didn't know the position of president made you a god or have mystical powers of control over the ethics of men. What else can someone do just because they are president? If he can't make the statue of liberty disappear then he's not that great. I've seen that.
It didn't say how many prostitutes obama was requesting? He was probably showing how obama Care works in foreign countries.
your mom can probably tell us, right Fred?
They probably learned this from the last Democrat president they had to provided security for, BILL CLINTON. Clinton probably paid for the hookers with tax money!!!
Probably not.
Seems like Dumbya Bush had one really classy daughter (Jenna) with x-rated pics all over the internet. Funny how all the right-wingers forget that...
Bernbitch -
You are obviously another tragic victim of Bush Disassociative Disorder, unable to comprehend that there are evils in the world that exist totally separate and apart from George W. Bush. God, I pray that one day there will be a cure for this sad condition.
These "men" are an embarrassment to our country. Legal or illegal, what happened here was immoral. These people are supposed to act like representatives of America. As a military veteran who knows what is expected of our personnel, I can say without a doubt that these men knew that what they were doing was wrong but they did it anyway.
Well, Power, I'm sure none of the men with whom you served ever patronized prostitutes and that you were in the most morally upright military unit in human history, all of whom shared your standards and views. I must sadly admit that wasn't really the case with mine, though ...
LOL!! Oh yeah, the military -- another gov't branch that NEVER gets hookers!
jesus h nipple, what a JOKE!
Immoral? Maybe you should take a sociology class. There is no universal morality. Morality is totally subjective. It is learned behavior. Children are not born knowing the difference between right and wrong. They have to be taught. Every society has its own moral standards based on what the majority of people in that society agree upon as being right or wrong.
Oh please! You could probably count on one hand the number of men who don't do exactly the same thing when in a place separate from their wives who don't think they will ever get caught at it! Honor and integrity are things of the past. That is if they ever existed anywhere but cheap romance novels. I can say I am personally acquainted with 2 men who wouldn't have been out there drinking and whoring it up until they dropped from it. And - no, those 2 men would not be my father - or either husband.
Timothy Geithner, Secretary of the Treasury since January 26, 2009, and President Obama need to
take this egregious incident seriously.
They need to create a record opposing slavery.
This is nothing more than election year "mud-slinging". Next thing which will be reported is that members, of the Obama staff are being accused, in child-pornography. 2012 is an election year. Be prepared for even Michelle to be "implicated" in just about any crime, including Prostitution.
This is what politics, in America, has devolved into. Who can make the most half-truths, innuendo, and outright LIES, on the other.
And dont think that Shasha and Malia will be protected from the press, either. No, even the girls will be accused of whatever the press thinks will sell news-print.
THIS is what our election years have come down to. The media has sunk to the point where they print what will sell papers, NOT the facts.
Welcome to the 2012 mud-slinging contest.
I call b.s. This was dealt with, rapidly and appropriately, so it can't very well be used as an election issue. Are you suggesting that it would be different in an non-election year, or with a Republican President?
This is why straights should be allowed to work in high security government positions. Because of their chosen, unnatural, abnormal heterosexual perverted practices they actually are security risks because they can be blackmailed. What if one of those straight perverts was threatened with blackmail by an opposite-sex hooker, saying she would tell his wife unless he forked over state secrets?
Not quite. Each of those Secret Service advance team agents has a security pass that allows them access to the conference. A conference attended by world leaders.
Drink too much, invite a hooker up to your room, fall asleep/pass out/drugged, and the security pass gets compromised. Credit cards are made on laptop computers, why not a duplicate security pass? You think that a Secret Service agent is going to admit that he may have compromised security at the conference?
Next thing you know, someone has access to the conference that's not supposed to. Someone with an advance team pass that can setup a bomb.
Not good.
Sounds like OBAMA has everything under control. Providing hookers for the secret service and over spending for vacations to Hawaii for all his federal employees. Now he wants to raise taxes to spend more????
Hoffa: Where do you come up with such stupid stuff? What a lie!!!! You are just as shameful as those agents and just as dangerous.
Right because the President controls EVERY aspect of the Federal government and every branch.
Wow Jimmy. You must be the GOP-butt-licker-extraordinaire...
Any more lies?
Isn't it sad that it has to be the Dems did this, the Repubs that, so it's okay fo us to do this or that? I hear 4 year olds do the blame game. WE ( AMERICANS) must start making the elected and appointed politicians act like grownups that have a responsibility to our country, EVEN when they are not "on the clock". Just do this same crap working for another employer and see what happens.
This crap of always looking for a way out of trouble is getting way out of hand. I don't care at this point what Bush , Clinton , Reagan did in the past. MR. Obama made promises ( just like they all did) and he is proving he is not the next coming , he is just a man in a position he can't handle.
And Talbot Gv. I am NOT affilaited with either party . So get off the boo hoo train and see him for what he is. A failure. He and his bunch are ruining our country.
But how do the President's failure have anything to do with this story? He certainly didn't fail us here, as the right actions were taken.
Rcars12 - I'm sure you felt the same way about Bush.
"his bunch" - actually it is the GOP that is ruining this country by focusing on defeating Obama instead of doing their jobs.
And, the SS prostitutes are a non-issue as the entire story had nothing to do with Obama anyway!
Get a Grip Folks, There are Dick Weeds everywhere. To blame this on The Democrats is like saying The Republicans must not have anything between their legs.
Also, spent many, many years in the military. Every deployment I went on to places like Thailand, or The Phillipines. Almost all married soldiers pulled off their wedding rings once on the plane, and while they were pulling off their rings. Their, left behind wives were getting ready to hit the local clubs that night. Take the blinders off folks. You're either IN the game, or you're OUT!!!! Ohhhhhhhhh Yeah!!!!!!
bill> You were not the President of the United States and you were not in charge of protecting the President while at home or abroad. But that's just a minor difference or two. Don't let the factual setting trouble you.
Absolutely. This is a tiny minority or the entire service.
bill, I agree with you 100%. People are being ridiculous about this. I have a very close friend who worked in a senator's security detail for years, and he assured me that whenever they were in foreign countries most of the staff enjoyed taking part in activities that were accepted locally but were unacceptable and illegal back home. I won't go into detail, but some of the things I heard from him were pretty sick. The only reason these guys got in any trouble wasn't that they hired a prostitute, it was that they didn't pay her for her services.
Bill: you say almost all. It's nice to know that there are some guys out there that still honor their wedding vows and are not skells like the rest. Are the wives banging others too? I guess if this is the arrangement the have, they probably should not have gotten married in the first place.
What's irresponsible? In Columbia, as well as in (some states) the U.S., prostitution is legal.
Not with children
If they were in Holland protecting the President, you'd have no problem if Secret Service agents visited a "coffee house"? Sometimes things are not just about what is legal, they also have to be about what is right.