Kindergartner handcuffed, taken to police station after allegedly throwing tantrum -- and furniture

The family of a 6-year-old Georgia girl is upset at police and school officials after the girl was handcuffed and taken to a police station for allegedly throwing furniture, tearing items off the walls and knocking over a shelf, which injured the principal.

"A 6-year-old in kindergarten?" Earnest Johnson, the father of Salecia Johson, asked with disbelief. "They have no business calling the police and handcuffing my child," he told WMAZ-TV.

Police defended their actions during the incident which occurred last Friday at Creekside Elementary School in Milledgeville, Ga.


"Our policy states that any detainee transported to our station in a patrol vehicle is to be handcuffed in the back. There is no age discrimination on that rule," Milledgeville Police Chief Dray Swicord told WMAZ-TV.

The family on Tuesday demanded that the city change its policy, the Associated Press reported, and claimed the girl was shaken up while at the police station.

The police officer called to the school later wrote that he "noticed damage to school property and possible assault of other students and staff. I made six attempts to contact her mother via telephone."

"I attempted to calm Johnson down," he wrote in his incident report. "Johnson then pulled away and began actively resisting and fighting with me."

The principal, Dianne Popp, said "a small shelf struck her in the leg while Johnson was throwing items at her," according to the police report, and that the girl "tried several times to get out of the office. Johnson was observed biting the door knob of the office and jumping on the paper shredder and attempted to break a glass frame above the shredder."

Johnson was charged with assault and damage to property, WMAZ-TV reported, but she will not have to go to court because of her age.

Johnson's mother, Constance Ruff, says her daughter was suspended until the start of the next school year.  

"She has mood swings some days, which all of us have mood swings some days," she told WMAZ-TV. "I guess that was just one of her bad days."

Asked by msnbc.com if the suspension means the girl will be held back a year, a school official had "no comment" and said the principal would have to respond to that but was not immediately available due to school testing.

The school district superintendent, Geneva Braziel, called the student's behavior "violent and disruptive," the Associated Press reported.

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Johnson's aunt, Candace Ruff, said the girl "might have misbehaved, but I don't think she actually misbehaved to the point that she should have been handcuffed and taken downtown to the police department."

"Call the police? Is that the first step? Or is there any other kind of intervention that can be taken to help that child," she asked.

Ruff added that the girl was by herself in a holding cell and complained about the handcuffs when she and her sister went to get her.

"She said they were really tight. She said they really hurt her wrists," Ruff told the Associated Press. "She was so shaken up when we went there to pick her up."

Swicord, the police chief, denied the child was held in a holding cell, with the Associated Press reporting that he said she was held in the department's squad room and given a Coke to try to calm her down.

Watch a video report about a Colorado student who was handcuffed last month.

This isn't the first time we've seen schoolchildren handcuffed by police. In Colorado last month, a 6th grader was handcuffed and taken to a juvenile holding facility for disobeying an assistant principal and being "argumentative and extremely rude," according to the police report.

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When my sister worked in the Columbus Public schools - she was pushed down the stairs, a kindergartner picked up a desk and through it at her. What are teachers supposed to do in these cases - let some child "having a moody day" hurt them. Parents should be teaching their children at an early age to respect others and do not hurt others adult or otherwise.

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#1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

Would calling the police after the desk throwing incident have cured the situation? Any teacher who thinks that the criminal justice system is the answer to any child behavior problem or mental disorder needs to stop teaching.

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#1.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:49 AM EDT

"Our policy is that any detainee transported to our station in a patrol vehicle is to be handcuffed in the back. There is no age discrimination on that rule.

At first I was l like really hand cuff a 6 year old, then I watched the video of the girl and her "parents" and auntie and I am now not surprised.

To quote the 6 yo, "She then call da police on me for no reason", way to go mom and dad (maybe) teaching your child the most valuable lessons early in life, deny doing anything wrong, blame everyone else for their bad behavior.

She has mood swings some days, "I guess that was just one of her bad days."

Ya think!!!! She didn't get suspended from school for the rest of the year for mood swings, she got expelled for being violent and uncontrollable, and they want to blame everybody else because they suck as parents.

Enjoyed listening to the video and hearing the "family" talk about how it would "damage a child physiologically by doing something to that nature", ya right sure you bet ya,

The report says the girl knocked over a shelf that injured the principal. It also says she was seen biting the door knob of the office and jumping on the paper shredder. And, it says, she attempted to break a glass frame above the shredder.

Biting the door knob, no I think she was way damaged before she ever set foot in that school.

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#1.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:50 AM EDT

We see this over and over parents that think their kids should be able to do whatever they want!

WRONG!

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#1.3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:57 AM EDT

A temper trandrum at 6? Really?? Looks like she got what she deserved. The smartest thing the parents can do is back the teachers and police on her poor behavior and maybe this little brat will turn things around.

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#1.4 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

WISE DECISION, MIDGEVILLE. Any monster of a child who has those kinds of issues should be taught a lesson. I would say I bet you she'll think twice before assaulting people and destroying property, but it sounds like her parents are total enablers. I have a niece her age, and she would NEVER act like that. And I would hope that any child who acted like that AROUND my niece would be taken down. I know I don't want my family in danger. Nice parenting, a** hats.

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#1.5 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:01 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJohn Williams-nam-vetExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Now this is cruel handcuffing a six year old, I'm suprised those handcuffs even fit a six year old since wrist so small.

Should of just ZAPPED the kid with a stun gun!..j/k

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#1.6 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:02 PM EDT

How do we identify and deal with children showing early symptoms of Bi Polar or Borderline Personality Disorder? This child was surely showing early symptoms. To shrug off this behavior as "Oh well, we all have our mood swings" is just criminal. This is why we have pediatric psychiatrists and psychologists. Failure to help this child now could lead to a lifetime of serious problems. This is the 21st century, lets act like we actually live there.

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#1.7 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:03 PM EDT

Don't mean to sound rude, but I read the article and it said "kindergartner" and 6 year-old, but the video shows a 6th grader (maybe 12 years old). Big difference if you ask me.

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#1.8 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:03 PM EDT

Looks like schools need rubber rooms.

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#1.9 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:07 PM EDT

I believe the video and article don't make sense..they said the six year old was named 'Salecia Johnson' and the video shows a 12 year old named 'Yajina Quezada'..Normal MSNBC reporting.

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#1.10 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 PM EDT

I agree! What are we teaching our young people? When these children are adults and in a public place (doing the same thing) the police will be called and they will be handcuffed. Not teaching students this would be an injustice to the students. This is reality and what is expected of a law abiding citizen. What about the rest of the class that is trying to learn? One person should not disrupt the whole class. I want my child to learn in a non stressed environment.

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#1.11 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

@Violet-3912626

if you read the story, she was in the Princible's office when she started throwing things, biting door knobs and trying to break things. i would say they tried many things before calling the police. The mother was unreachable. What are they supposed to do? Grab the girl and tie her down so she doesn't hurt anyone or herself? The parents would have been up in arms over that too. Sure, police are not there to babysit kids who are bad at school, and teachers are not there to babysit for the parents. the parents need to step in and tell the kid that its not ok to throw tanrums and be violent like she was.

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#1.12 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:17 PM EDT

The teachers are doing their job and teaching these kids, they don't have the kids 24/7. The parents are the ones not taking any responsibility to teach the kids what they need to learn at home. All I'm seeing is more and more excuses from the parents, as to why they aren't doing their jobs.

Edit: Sorry Elaine, read your post a little differently the first look.

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#1.13 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:18 PM EDT

This is what happens when corporal punishment and other "humiliating" punishments are taken away from teachers and principals as an option in dealing with disruptive, violent children. Back in the day, such a child would have been warned once and paddled by the teacher in front of her peers at the second offense. The third would have invoved a paddling from the administrator and possibly a suspension. Should there be a fourth incident the cheld would be paddled/suspended for 3-5 days and a fifth would lead to formal expulsion from the school. Obviously the parents have already failed this child. Why should they be surprised that the school system has too. Maybe she needs to be home-schooled.

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#1.14 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:20 PM EDT
Comment author avatarCygnus_X-1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I smell lawsuit. This is what happens when school districts distance themselves from any liability in child discipline. Rather than ruining a child's future with a police record, schools need to handle these things internally with parents, like they mostly always have. At the beginning of each school year, parents should have to sign a permission form allowing schools to discipline. If the parent doesnt sign, then their kid doesnt attend. It's sad that parents and education professionals can't settle these things without the involvement of police. It's a 6-year old, not a crime boss.

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#1.15 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:21 PM EDT
Comment author avatarmakes me wonderExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

its a child this world is fing NUTS

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#1.16 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:21 PM EDT

Violet, and your thinking on this issue is astounding. Tell us, exactly what should school personnel have done? You and the girl's nutty parents are like peas in the same pod.

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#1.17 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:25 PM EDT

Violet said "Any teacher who thinks that the criminal justice system is the answer to any child behavior problem or mental disorder needs to stop teaching."

Having been in a classsroom where children under age 5 threw chairs and punches, I'm going to disagree. It's a matter of safety for everyone, including the teacher, the other children in the room, and the children committing the violent acts. If the parents aren't preventing it and the school isn't preventing it, someone else needs to get involved. We had two kids from the same family who acted out like this. We reported their violence, among other things, as suspicious to child services and nothing happened. We let the parents know and the older child (the 5 year-old chair thrower) was put on several drugs, which mostly left her in a stupor. The younger child, age 2, punched his teacher in the nose and she had to go to the ER. Sometimes extreme actions need to be taken in extreme cases - you have no idea how this child behaved on a daily basis or what other steps were taken. Maybe getting the police involved will finally make sure someone notices that this child clearly needs help. I wish someone had done the same for the kids in my school, because they clearly needed help and no one was getting it for them. I would have hated to see them hauled off in handcuffs, but I would have loved to see someone from the system intervene in a case where things definitely did not seem right.

Some kids need help and we run out of ways to see that they get it. Do we let them fall through the cracks, as the kids at the school I left probably did? Or do we take extreme action to get them into the system and make sure that someone, somewhere takes notice of them?

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#1.18 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:27 PM EDT

The family of a 6-year-old Georgia girl is upset at police and school officials after the girl was handcuffed and taken to a police station for allegedly throwing furniture, tearing items off the walls and knocking over a shelf, which injured the principal.

"A 6-year-old in kindergarten?" Earnest Johnson, the father of Salecia Johson, asked with disbelief. "They have no business calling the police and handcuffing my child,"

Well, the 6 yr old has no business damaging furniture which my tax money paid for, and throwing a tantrum so distruptive that police has to be called over. Again valuable time wasted when they could have more important things to do. Pretty much waste a day of teaching for the rest of the students because this brat had a bad day. Hope the school mail these irresponsible parents the repair bills.

Good job parents. Not even faulting the kid and lay blame on everyone else. I'm sure this angel going far when she gets older. Think this is bad? Wait til she hits puberty if the parents don't correct her behavior early. /snicker

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#1.19 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

@Violet

Is that a long term solution? No. I'd agree there are other underlying issues that need to be resolved. But in the here and now of that situation, I have no problems with the actions since obviously someone could have, and did get hurt. It may sound extreme cuffing a 6 year old. But they had to be restrained somehow for the safety of themselves and everyone around them. Use some common sense. Maybe YOU shouldn't be teaching.

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#1.20 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:31 PM EDT
Comment author avatarI-beliveExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Spear the rod and spoil the child...

So now we just lock them up... ?

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#1.21 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:31 PM EDT

They did the right thing. They made an effort to contact the parents, the kid was clearly a danger to herself and others, and this will hopefully make an impression on her that she can't do whatever she wants and get away with it. Obviously the parents aren't being parents, simply defending their daughter's terrible behaviour. If I had been arrested, my ass would have been doing chores for the next 400 years.

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#1.22 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:32 PM EDT

They tried to reach the parents, and the kid was trying to eat her way out of the office, what should they have done, let the little freak run wild in the school attacking, biting or harming other students and staff, until the parents could be tracked down and made to retrieve their little brat??????????????????

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#1.23 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:32 PM EDT

Obviously, this child have been allowed to throw her tantrums whenever things don't go her way. Parents need to teach their children that these kinds of behavior is NOT ALLOWED and if it continues there are consequence's. If you don't teach children to respect authority, well teach them that going to prison is their next step to reality.

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#1.24 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:34 PM EDT

Georgia Birds are going to see this in a little bit different light. Millegeville is one of those places with a reputation. Millegeville is in the middle-of-nowhere, Georgia, but used to be the state capital. The capital was moved to Atlanta when Atlanta was only a railroad crossroads. People at the time applauded the move because people from Millegeville "acted strangely." Then in later days, the state mental asylum was built in Millegeville mostly because the state owned a lot of land there from the time when it was the capital. But most people believed that it was put there because the people in Milligeville were so nutty that it would reduce transportation costs. And generations upon generations of Georgia Birds have grown up with their mothers claiming that the kids were "sending her to Millegeville."

People from Georgia will see this a just another indication that people in Millegeville are kinda strange.

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#1.25 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:37 PM EDT
Comment author avatarTosa720Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

To begin with, a child does not reach the "age of reason" until they are 7 or older. Prior to reaching the age of reason, their actions or reactions are emotional not logical. Secondly, this girl appears to have some other - perhaps psychological problems, or perhaps symptoms of ADHD. Teachers in many school districts across the country are taught how to talk to and restrain children who start to get out of control. These methods work and should be the first approach taken. It does not appear as though there was much effort put into using these skills. There is no doubt that some children learn ineffective or aggressive coping skills from their parents, but in this case, you are jumping th e gun to blame parents or fault them for their lack of "proper English" or education. No one knows what is going on in this child's household, or what other problems (physical, emotional or mental) this child may be dealing with in her life. For the police to traumatize the child further by handcuffing her and then putting her in a holding cell is over the top. Someone with proper skills should have been called and brought in if the teachers were incapable of dealing with this situation. this child is not a criminal - and at her age, cannot even form "intent". What is this country coming to?

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#1.26 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

I started teaching my son a long time ago that school is his job, that behavior and grades were equal parts to his job. That both were his responsibility to uphold and that if he had both good grades and good reports on his behavior that he would benefit. Maybe buying him a new video game, toys, whatever he wanted as he had EARNED it. He has made honor roll a few times and has only had a few problems with talking in class, so he has earned a lot over this last year. Teachers deal with a lot, students acting out in a classroom or at school in general doesn't just makes the teachers work harder, but the other students as well who are there to learn and who are, for the most part, well behaved and deserve to be able to go too school and do their JOB in peace. This kid acting out is just an example of the lack of control the parents have and, more so, the lack of respect the child has for others overall.

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#1.27 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:38 PM EDT

Biting a doorknob? I agree with Bluelake. This child is CLEARLY showing signs of early onset bipolar disorder and needs medicated with a mood stabilizer. Bipolar and other mental illnesses tend to have a very high genetic component. A child with this level of rage (at age 6) could just as well become so angry she kills herself or someone else. My bipolar child has NEVER been that violent and he's a teenager now. The girl should be hospitalized and stabilized with meds. She might even need some therapeutic residential care. Better now than after something more horrible happens. I suspect the parents aren't "all there" either if they don't think their daughter needs some serious intervention.

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#1.28 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:46 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJasmine-1862666Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

If this 6 year old is arrested for throwing furniture, where were the police when my third grade teacher AN ADULT threw a desk across the room because he had the same exact "tantrum" as they say this girl had?!?

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#1.29 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

RW, if school is Salecia's job, she just got fired after filling out her I-9.

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#1.30 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

Forget the police - this girl obviously has some serious behavior problems and probably should be seen by a professional. It sounds like she may have bigger problems than have been addressed by this one incident.

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#1.31 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

If the child is old enough to do all that then he/she is old enough to be handcuffed.

If parent can't educate/teach their children how to behave then don't have then or you must let your big mama government to have control over your little brat.

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#1.32 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:47 PM EDT

There was a misprint in the headline and text. I've come to expect that from MSNBC. According to the video the girl was not six, but in the 6th grade. Big difference. She should have known better and her behavior can't be described as a childish "tantrum."

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#1.33 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:49 PM EDT

Three cheers for the principal and the PD. Better to handle this at any age and let them know what the consequences are for bad behavior. Might be the one thing she remembers...that ride to the station in handcuffs along with the jail cell.

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#1.34 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

Joeylowe, I think the video is about the girl mentioned in the last paragraph, an 11 year-old who was handcuffed last month: "This isn't the first time we've seen schoolchildren handcuffed by police. In Colorado last month, a 6th grader was handcuffed and taken to a juvenile holding facility for disobeying an assistant principal and being "argumentative and extremely rude," according to the police report."

But I do agree that it's confusing to have the video posted above way above that paragraph because people often click the video before finishing the written article, so this placement is misleading.

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#1.35 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

So true john. I say the school systems hire Donald Trump to go around and when a kid is expelled, he yell out "YOU'RE FIRED!!!"

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#1.36 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

The use of handcuffs is to protect the police officers, other innocents and the accused. It is simply a form of restraint to help lower the opportunity and likelyhood of violence (more violence in this case) it isn't a form of punishment.

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#1.37 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

I think the parents should be handcuffed and their A$$'s hauled off to jail for raising such a monster and condoning her behavior. Get a clue you brainless morons!

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#1.38 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:57 PM EDT

Putting on the handcuffs's prevented the girl from harming herself or others. She should be given the Psychiatric Treatment she obviously needs. The parents should be paying from their pocket, not the welfare check, for the damages caused by their undisciplined child. Teachers are not punching bags to be abused by their students or the questionable parents, regardless of the students age. Other students needed protected by this out of control child.

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#1.39 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:57 PM EDT

Jasmine, we aren't talking about that case. Of course if a teacher did that s/he should be removed and arrested if s/he won't cease the behavior and/or if children were present or someone was in danger at the time. Where did you see anyone saying it was okay for teachers to do that either? it was obviously over the line as well.

Tosa, I see what you mean, but it doesn't apply at all when a child is threatening and breaking things, causing people to get hurt, hurting herself, and won't stop it. If a child is the age/size of that child on the video who is saying she did nothing wrong, then she needs serious help. So you wanted them to let her rage because she's a child? I feel for her and hope she gets help, but the family dynamic is off and there are serious issues here that need addressing. The staff is there to keep her safe. She didn't get cut and no one was seriously injured because they took appropriate steps to stop her.

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#1.40 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

Handcuffing the student prevented her from injuring herself or anyone else. It's obvious the student is in need Psychiatric assistance and her parents should pay for the damages caused by their obviously undisciplined child. There is nothing wrong with putting the handcuffs on any individual, regardless of age, who is causing harm or injury to themselves or others or destroying the property of others. People don't send their children to school to be preyed upon by other students and teacher's are not at school to be attacked by students of any age. If your child has no social skills or is disruptive and has anger issues, KEEP THEM HOME!!

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#1.41 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:09 PM EDT

Old sarge:

Seriously, you think other people should be able to physically discipline children and humiliate them. While I don't have much of a problem with what was done here, you are way off base and your thinking is archaic. The school did what they had to in order to defuse the situation and get the kid under control. None of this was done as punishment, nor should it be.

First of all, what good would publicly humiliating and beating a child in front of their peers accomplish? It would accomplish nothing except making that child even more resentful of authority and a bigger problem. Do you seriously think that other people should be able to beat your children? What does beating child really accomplish besides teaching them violence os the answer? As proof I offer your comments, you think it is perfectly fine to deal with problems through violence.

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#1.42 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:09 PM EDT

It is certainly possible this little girl is bi-polar. But that does not mean anyone knew! Some parents will simply assume she is having temper tantrums and never think to get her to a doctor and get help. Some doctors, especially old timers still think children won't be bi-polar! Hopefully this will be a wake up call for the family and they will get this girl help. In the meantime, they also need to attend parenting classes and learn how to deal with her. If she IS bi-polar, they will need to understand and learn how to handle her situations and help her learn to behave. If she is not, then they all need to learn how to be a family unit and teach the children how to behave properly. The school, teachers and administrators are not obligated to have a dangerous child in a classroom where is could injure others and herself. In this case, it sounds very much like the teacher and principal did try to calm her down and that escalated the situation. The mother was not available and she should have been. Parents are required to leave emergency contact numbers....and she could also have left the aunt's number too as she is so defensive about how her niece was handled and they could have been there to deal with things and it would not have been necessary to call the police. As no one in the family was reachable, then to keep the child and others safe from injury, it was necessary to call in the police and when they were brought in, they control the situation by their laws. Too bad if the parents don't like it!

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#1.43 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:14 PM EDT
Comment author avatarArmando-1888053Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Here's my question: was the kindergartner wearing a hoodie?

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#1.44 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:15 PM EDT

@Tosa - different children reach the age of reason at different ages (one of my pet peeves that everyone thinks that all 5-year-olds are ready for kindergarten - some are ready 2 years earlier, some not for 2 years after that). And saying that 7 is the magic age where all kids can suddenly understand right from wrong is soooo wrong.

Knowing right from wrong can be learned at a very early age when children are taught what is right and what is wrong. For example, your 2-year-old throws a toy and hits her 4-year-old brother. You take the toy, and you show her the sharp edges. You let her feel the sharp edges. Show her how hard the toy is. Then have her think about what it would feel like to be hit with the toy in a time out. You do this every time something like this happens, and in a year or so, she understands that throwing things isn't allowed AND that it hurts and isn't nice. You don't just ignore it, or yell at her brother for not moving out of the way fast enough. You teach, kids learn. You don't teach, kids turn into brats who think they can do anything to anyone just because they can.

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#1.45 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:16 PM EDT

My wife is a teacher, three of my four daughters are teachers. Classroom management is a really big deal in teacher training. Do any of you know what happens if a teacher tries to subdue such an unruly child? If they physically grab the child and struggle with them? Simple, the teacher and the school get sued. Their only recourse is to call the police. Unless your in the classroom you have no idea what a kid can do. The child was probably acting out a drunken rage she had seen one of her parents go through. The kids know the teachers can't touch them. They think they can do whatever they want. The school and the police did the right thing.

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#1.46 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

there is no misprint. the story is about a 6 year old in kindergarten and says so plainly. the last paragraph mentions the 6th grader who was handcuffed and that's why that video is on here. if she was being destructive and assaulting people by throwing things then i'm fine with her being handcuffed. hopefully this early trip to jail wakes her up to what those types of actions will get her and it's her last trip there.

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#1.47 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

A six-year old is a little too big to have tantrums where the throwing of furniture is involved. I'm thinking that she has some severe behavioral and psychological issues. Would her parents put up with this kind of behavior? Do her parents ignore her when she throws a tantrum? What do they do when she's out of control like this? Throwing a fit (no throwing involved), crying and screaming, does no harm to anyone but the "tantrumee". What if other kids or people had been hurt?

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#1.48 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

Also, in the case of the sixth grader, I guess she learned her lesson. She said she did, so being locked up probably taught her a valuable lesson.

If the six-year old's parents think it was wrong to do this, that will be conveyed to their daughter and she will have learned absolutely nothing. She will think she was just wronged. Bad message.

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#1.49 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:21 PM EDT

"Should of just ZAPPED the kid with a stun gun!."

Don't tase me, bro! lol

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#1.50 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

Its good the school called the police. it. This child is obviously uncontrollable and needed to be removed from the school. Her parents couldn't be reached the police was the only option. The girl needs to home schooled the rest of the year and not held back, that way she can try again next year and see if her parents have decided to actually parent her. Holding her back a year means she will bigger than the other kids.

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#1.51 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:23 PM EDT

change her name to "Fellony"

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#1.52 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:24 PM EDT

Discipline is the purest form of love you can ever give a child. It's telling the child, "I'm willing to let you hate me for a moment so others can love you for a lifetime." From what I see, the parents love attention...not the child.

The child needed a bucket of ice water in her face. You'd be surprise how children learn to express their angst in more meaningful ways after getting a douse of the chilly.

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#1.53 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:27 PM EDT

"Maybe she needs to be home-schooled."

That's kinda scary; "Trailor trash-living on welfare-101. Class starts @.........................whenever mama drags her fat azz outta bed."

  • 25 votes
#1.54 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:27 PM EDT

If you have a child acting up in your class and you take that child to the principals office and the kids gets even worse what are you to do? If the kid is breaking things and hasn't obeyed the teacher and now isn't obeying the principal what do you do? Let the kid take over the school and give her or him even more power? They couldn't reach a parent and more than likely thought by telling her they were calling the police she would straighten up but, she didn't. The police can't leave anyone in their vehicle who might damage it and this kid could have. In this case the child might have hurt herself or someone else. The parents need court ordered parenting classes. Just because a child is 6 doesn't mean they can't cause harm. There are plenty of kids 11 who tower over their teachers and many kids out weigh their teachers even in 3rd grade. Our kids are getting taller and fatter all the time. The one thing to remember is this child wasn't afraid of the teacher, principal or the police so who was going to stop her? This had gone on for atleast 45 minutes. Yes, put the ties on her wrist and take her to jail. Maybe the next time she has a moody day she will remember that the school and the police won't put up with this type of behavior and it might keep her from going down the wrong path or hurting a classmate.

  • 27 votes
#1.55 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

What surprises me the least about this case is how MSNBC has once again BIASED-LY chosen to try and make it a story about "RACE", when it is about an out-of-control child. It is obvious that this child's parents haven't done their job in preparing her for entering school, and that she is already a year behind, i.e. 6 years old in kindergarden, speaks to her intellectual ability/development.

The fact that her mother blows off her extreme behaviour as "normal", is very illustrative. As is the fact that she was "Unreachable" by the school. When I was that age, if I had behaved in a manner that required the school to call the police and I was taken "down town" in hand cuffs, my parents wouldn't have been on the "Nightly News" making excuses and "crying" about how I was "mistreated" by the school/police. My bu++ would have been so blistered I wouldn't have been able to sit down for a year, I could forget any treats or privileges for that time too, and I would likely be writing letters to everyone apologizing for my behaviour.

If her parents had handled it correctly, instead of how they have, this could have been the best thing to ever happen to this little psycho B!TCH. Teach her that her bad "ACTIONS" have unenjoyable consquences, and where her "temper" is going to lead her in the future.

No honey, you can't act like those Trash-Tramp PoS's you see mommy watching on "Real Housewives of Atlanta".

  • 23 votes
#1.56 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:30 PM EDT

In a sense, I agree with old sarge. It is a known fact that kids' behavior feeds off of how other kids are behaving. If you have an unruly brat, and that brat is not disciplined, other kids see this as "it is ok to behave like this" and the problem grows.

I have a son with a sensory processing disorder. And trust me, he knows at the age of 6 what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior. Molly Coddling, making excuses, and saying children at the age of 6 don't know right from wrong is garbage. It comes down to PARENTING. It is the responsibility of the parents to intervene at the first signs of a behavioral issue. I took my son for a tour of a jail to teach him "THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE WHO MISBEHAVE GO". Notice there are no toys. Notice the bathroom is in front of everyone. Notice there is no carpet. Look at those ugly jumpsuits. This is YOUR FUTURE if you don't get your act together. Harsh? Perhaps. But it got the message acrossed.

This incident goes to show what is truly wrong with the fabric of our society. There is NO REAL ACCOUNTABILITY for the way people behave. There is NO DETERRENT. NO CONSEQUENCE. The parents blow it off like the brat is victimized, never mind the assault. If an adult behaved in such a fashion with the police, they would be charged with resisting arrest. Kids are being taught in households like this one, that they should have NO RESPECT for authority. I say send this brat to Juvie for the rest of the school year. Apparently the parents have no influence over the behavior of this little angel who was having a bad day. Maybe John Wayne Gasey should have used the same defense. I was just having a bad day on those days...

Had this been my son, I would have written a letter of apology to the school, the police, and told the officers to haul his ass off to juvie. Want to act like a mindless badass, suffer a mindless badass's fate. It is called DISCIPLINE, and it is about time MORE PARENTS started practicing it.

  • 20 votes
#1.57 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:31 PM EDT
Comment author avatarTekKnowledgeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

WISE DECISION, MIDGEVILLE. Any monster of a child who has those kinds of issues should be taught a lesson. I would say I bet you she'll think twice before assaulting people and destroying property, but it sounds like her parents are total enablers. I have a niece her age, and she would NEVER act like that. And I would hope that any child who acted like that AROUND my niece would be taken down. I know I don't want my family in danger. Nice parenting, a** hats.

Wow. A couple of thoughts

1) How could you call a 6 year old child a monster?

2) We don't know whether this child has psychological issues or what...they could have found a better solution than charging a 6 year old having a temper tantrum.

3) Why are the parents always blamed? I didn't see anything in the video suggesting that the parents were anything but loving parents. Again, maybe this girl has a mental illness or some other condition through no fault of her own or her parents.

Have some empathy people.

  • 7 votes
#1.58 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

"Holding her back a year means she will bigger than the other kids."

And will B able 2 do more damage 2 the others.

Yeah, that's the solution. (sarcasm)

  • 5 votes
#1.59 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

U don't say;

It gives a good example to the rest of the kids that this stunt is not tolerated. I doubt this brat will learn from this incident by listening to the parents using the victim and blame game.

I foresee a bright future for her being in and out of the prison system when she's an adult. Better get comfortable. At least she doesn't have to worry about huge college debt or being a victim of subprime mortgage.

  • 17 votes
#1.60 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:33 PM EDT

"Back in the day, such a child would have been warned once and paddled by the teacher in front of her peers at the second offense."

Did you go to school in the 1800s?

I taught for many years (secondary ed.) and never encountered a school that allowed corporal punishment, nor would I have ever used it against a child.

If any teacher had dared, out of anger or frustration, hit my own child, I'd have raised the devil over it. The is never a valid reason to strike a child. It teaches violence and it demonstrates how bullies operate.

  • 6 votes
#1.61 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

Violet - So, you would prefer they not stop the child from harming herself and other people?

  • 10 votes
#1.62 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

Looks like a case of A.D.D. - Absence of Discipline Disorder. If that is the allowable behavior instilled into her by the way her parents raised her, she better get used to the cuffs and bars. She'll be wearing the cuffs and residing behind the bars all too soon.

  • 25 votes
#1.63 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

Here's the problem...first of all we have an out of control 6 year old. Who knows what her family life is like? Is she allowed to act like this at home? Probably. Second we have school teachers and administration officials who are no longer allowed to discipline children or in some cases even raise their hands to defend themselves without being the ones punished. This country is screwed up. When I read her mother's response where it said she was "having a bad day" it made me sick to my stomach. If that had been my child there would have been consequences at home. That's probably why that never was my child. Come on Mother...take some responsibility and teach your child some manners and some respect. If this child is like this at 6 I would HATE to see her at 16!!!

  • 19 votes
#1.64 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:36 PM EDT

"Why are the parents always blamed?"

Who else IS there 2 blame? The teacher? The principle? The other students? The police? Or maybe just the doctor & nurses who brought the child into this world?

I'm sticking with blaming the parents.

  • 30 votes
#1.65 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:37 PM EDT

The fact that her mother blows off her extreme behaviour as "normal", is very illustrative. As is the fact that she was "Unreachable" by the school. When I was that age, if I had behaved in a manner that required the school to call the police and I was taken "down town" in hand cuffs, my parents wouldn't have been on the "Nightly News" making excuses and "crying" about how I was "mistreated" by the school/police. My bu++ would have been so blistered I wouldn't have been able to sit down for a year, I could forget any treats or privileges for that time too, and I would likely be writing letters to everyone apologizing for my behaviour.

How do we know that the child wasn't disciplined by the parents after this incident for misbehaving? The parents were complaining about their child being handcuffed and taken to the police station, not for her being in trouble at school. Also, how do we know that the parents weren't unreachable because they were at work, you know since people normally work during the school day?

What surprises me the least about this case is how MSNBC has once again BIASED-LY chosen to try and make it a story about "RACE", when it is about an out-of-control child. It is obvious that this child's parents haven't done their job in preparing her for entering school, and that she is already a year behind, i.e. 6 years old in kindergarden, speaks to her intellectual ability/development.

Also, I really do find it highly unlikely that that a white child would have been treated in the same manner, but that is another story.

  • 2 votes
#1.66 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:37 PM EDT

If that's a mood swing, just wait til she hits puberty! I can't imagine what she'll do for an encore performance while PMS-ing. Seriously disturbed family needs to get a grip on reality.

  • 12 votes
#1.67 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:38 PM EDT

I'd like to see anyone in support of handcuffing, arresting and jailing a 6-year old thrown into the slammer themselves. I think you've lost your respect of humanity and ability to empathize if you think this is acceptable. It may make you feel good to see a small child treated like a criminal but the fact is it can do nothing to help the innocent child... and yes, a 6-year old IS in fact innocent. I understand that a small child may have to be restrained in a case like this but booking them into jail is ridiculously inappropriate and likely to only exacerbate behavioral problems. The child likely needs therapy, not imprisonment. I have a small child on the autism spectrum and he can sometimes become uncontrollable and throw things... it is NOT because his parents don't discipline and care for him. It is because he has a developmental problem that has to be dealt with appropriately by people trained in child education. Fortunately, our school district does not call the police, handcuff and jail my son when he has an episode but rather they use appropriate measures to bring him back under control. Indeed, their hard professional dedication has paid off with excellent progress to the point where my son very rarely acts-out any longer. We are so grateful to their love and dedication towards my son and we see them as real hero's. I can't help but think the child in this story probably has behavioral issues as a result of a developmental condition or perhaps a bad home environment. In either case treating the child like a criminal is the wrong answer for the child - for cynical adults maybe it brings them pleasure but not for the innocent kid.

If the child involved was actually in 6th grade (i.e. 12 yrs old) then involving police might be more understandable. Not ideal to be sure but not as outrageous as booking a 6 year old.

  • 4 votes
#1.68 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:39 PM EDT

"Why are the parents always blamed?"

Who else IS there 2 blame? The teacher? The principle? The other students? The police? Or maybe just the doctor & nurses who brought the child into this world?

I'm sticking with blaming the parents.

How about a mental disorder?

I also don't think that every person who ever did something incorrect or made bad decisions did it because they are/were raised poorly. It could be because of mental disability, or that offspring choosing to do something that they know is wrong regardless of what their parents think. Not everything a child does is a consequence of how they were raised. Its fallacious thinking.

  • 4 votes
#1.69 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

Sad part is the parents are playing the victim game and so is the girl...this child needs help from a mental health professional and her parents, including the aunt, need parenting classes. It's not someone else's fault if you act out. Everyone must learn to control their selves and if they don't people get hurt many times. Our jails are full of people who have no control. I bet 99% are innocent because it was someone else's fault. NOT! Kids have to learn respect for others and their selves. This child and her parents haven't learned it yet. Just watch them on the news....silly and stupid.

  • 14 votes
#1.70 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

Actually the parents should have been arrested for giving birth to the evil little spawn in the first place.

  • 11 votes
#1.71 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:43 PM EDT
Comment author avatarU don't say-3994780Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I'm also wondering:

1) Did the police have 2 wrestle her down 2 put the cuffs on? (I would bet the pigs enjoyed THAT!)

2) Did she have a meltdown in the back of the squad car?

3) Did she have a meltdown while booking & mugshotting her?

4) Did the brat straighten up once the police arrived & they took her 2 jail based on what the teacher/principle said?

  • 2 votes
#1.72 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:47 PM EDT

Who else IS there 2 blame? The teacher? The principle? The other students? The police? Or maybe just the doctor & nurses who brought the child into this world?

How would you like it if I blamed your parents for not teaching you how to spell principal correctly?

  • 2 votes
#1.73 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

mcb

"Back in the day, such a child would have been warned once and paddled by the teacher in front of her peers at the second offense."

Did you go to school in the 1800s?

No how about the 1980's, it was still working just fine then and it would still work now, the reason we see this happening more often is the lack of discipline in the home and at school. It doesn't take long for kids to figure out that unacceptable behavior is not worth the punishment and stop doing it.

The is never a valid reason to strike a child. It teaches violence and it demonstrates how bullies operate.

SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO BEND A KID OVER TO STRAIGHTEN THEM OUT.

A survey done back in the 90's of what career criminals thought was the biggest factor for their actions that landed them in jail was the LACK OF DISCIPLINE AND RULES AS WELL AS FOLLOW THROUGH WITH PUNISHMENTS AT HOME.

  • 19 votes
#1.74 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:50 PM EDT

How do we know that the child wasn't disciplined by the parents after this incident for misbehaving?

Because the parents were busily making excuses for her behavior -- it wasn't her fault she assaulted a teacher, the principal, was throwing furniture and destroying property -- she was just having a bad day.

  • 19 votes
#1.75 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:51 PM EDT

I agree this was the best action and I don't think the school had any other choice. From what I can tell they exhausted all resources before going this route. Yes we all hate to see this happen but for those who don't think it is right what else should they do at that point? Restrain the child? Then you'd be up in arms about that. Let her continue her rampage and hurt the other kids? Then the school would get in trouble for that. Had the school not tried to contact the parent and remove the child from the classroom like they did and made the police the first option then I'd be singing a slightly different tune but if really was that bad I wouldn't be in total disagreement.

Yes there are times lately where schools have called the police for no real good reason but this is not one of them. Maybe this child will get a wake up call and learn she can't act that way. Maybe if she does have some physiological issues (good chance she does) they will get addressed now with professional help. Maybe too child services will pay a visit to her lowlife parents and check on her home life situation as it appears that might not be good either.

Either way its clear the parents are anything but. I'd say both should be fixed. Sounds as if their only concern is the 15 mins of fame and possibly the chance to sue and get a payday. This whole thing starts with her parents who obviously have no clue.

If there is any hope for the future then it is time parents start being parents again and stop expecting others to their job as a parent. This is unacceptable on all levels and needs to end.

  • 9 votes
#1.76 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

"How about a mental disorder?

I also don't think that every person who ever did something incorrect or made bad decisions did it because they are/were raised poorly."

U R entitled 2 that opinion, as I am entitled 2 my opinion & I gotta say:

I don't think that every person who ever did something incorrect or made bad decisions did it because of mental issues; That's TOO easy of a cop-out.

  • 5 votes
#1.77 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

"How would you like it if I blamed your parents for not teaching you how to spell principal correctly?"

If U can't discuss & must attack...............................well whatever.

  • 7 votes
#1.78 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

I applaud the police and the school for doing what they did! If I ever acted like this when I was in school, I didn't have to worry about the police or the school principal. I had to worry about my dad and what he would do to me! Believe me, I would have preferred the handcuffs and police!

The mom is already making excuses for the kid. Yeah, we all have good days and bad days. If she was doing her job as a parent, she would be teaching the kid the proper way to deal with the bad days! This mother needs to wake up and realize that just because the kid is in school, it doe's not mean that the kid is a problem for someone else during those hours. Parenting is a full time, 24/7/365 job! Unless this kid gets the proper parenting, I foresee a future behind bars or worse!

  • 9 votes
#1.79 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

I realize that this could be because of a mental disorder, we just don't know none of us do, but it could also just be a case of the kid is a full on brat and her "parents" taught her to play the victim, caus she ain't done nothing wrong.

  • 4 votes
#1.80 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:57 PM EDT

Ok TekKnowlege lets follow your reasoning here.. She is a 6 year old child.. Who is responsible for her and either her discipline for poor behavior, or taking her to a doctor to find out if there is a mental disorder??? SURVEY SAYS>>>> THE PARENTS!!!!!! Mom says "She has mood swings some days", Auntie says "She may have misbehaved.." . Let's not forget dad... "They had no business handcuffing my child like that." Which brings me to the heart of the matter.. Lets show some accountability.. Lets show some responsibility.. If this kids is a discipline problem then it is time to quit making excuses and maybe take her out behind the wood shed and give her a good old fashioned butt whooping.. IF there are mental issues then it is way beyond time to take this child to a doctor and get it diagnosed and treated.. Either way it is THE PARENTS RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THE CHILD!!!! These parents are trying to make excuses and pretend it is everyone else's problem.. Time for either social services to step in and try and get that family some kind of help, or time for the parents to stop the excuses and attempts to dodge the reality of this, and do right by that child.

  • 10 votes
#1.81 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:58 PM EDT

Teachers have these kids 91/2 months of the year for 6 or 7 hours a day. The parents have them the rest of the time. If this child is 6 and has not been diagnosed with a "mental problem" then it's on the parents. They are the people responsible for her. If she has been diagnosed the school should not have treated her as a normal child but one that has issues. My sister is special needs and I have seen many children act out in what can only be termed as wild and crazy. I saw one child wrapped in a blanket to keep him from breaking the windows out of the class room with books or his hands. The other students were scared to tears and my sister didn't want to go back to that school because she was afraid of the boy from then on. You would be amazed how strong these kids are when they are pumped up on adrenalin. Point is if this child has issues she needs to be in a school that handles children like her not in main stream class rooms where she is terrorizing the students and staff. It's not the schools fault this child acts out. It's up to the parents to get her help for her "moody days."

  • 6 votes
#1.82 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:59 PM EDT

At first I was like ''wtf really?"

But after watching the video and reading about this... it definitely sounds like the kid was way out of control and that the parents seem to be pretty, well to put it mildly; dumb as hell.

I mean, seriously... biting the door knob? And 6 year olds can throw pretty hard, let me tell you what. They throw something sharp, it could definitely injure someone. This little girl seems to have no respect for authority whatsoever. When I was a kid, I knew not to mess with an adult because I would get my arse whooped. These days though, school admins have their hands tied when it comes to what they can do with an unruly student.... which is pretty much nothing but a 'stern warning' or something. If that fails it's supposed to be the parents, and if that fails it's the cops. Every single one of them coddles the kid.... handcuffs, hell, that's the least she deserved.

I remember way back in school, this kid... Steve was his name... was one of those hyperactive spaz types. He was throwing crap at the teacher, kicked over the hamster cage... This was like, 2nd grade I think. You know what the teacher did? Took out a yardstick, whapped the kid with it across the rear - knocked him on the ground - and being the overexaggerating type of kid he was, he screamed and fell to the ground as if shot. The teacher then grabbed Steve by the ankle and slid him across the floor next to his desk, sat down, and then propped his feet up on Steve to hold him down as he told me to go to the principal's office and have the secretary get his mom on the phone.

Sometimes you just got to show who's boss.

  • 12 votes
#1.83 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:02 PM EDT

Ok TekKnowlege lets follow your reasoning here.. She is a 6 year old child.. Who is responsible for her and either her discipline for poor behavior, or taking her to a doctor to find out if there is a mental disorder??? SURVEY SAYS>>>> THE PARENTS!!!!!! Mom says "She has mood swings some days", Auntie says "She may have misbehaved.." . Let's not forget dad... "They had no business handcuffing my child like that." Which brings me to the heart of the matter.. Lets show some accountability.. Lets show some responsibility.. If this kids is a discipline problem then it is time to quit making excuses and maybe take her out behind the wood shed and give her a good old fashioned butt whooping.. IF there are mental issues then it is way beyond time to take this child to a doctor and get it diagnosed and treated.. Either way it is THE PARENTS RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THE CHILD!!!! These parents are trying to make excuses and pretend it is everyone else's problem.. Time for either social services to step in and try and get that family some kind of help, or time for the parents to stop the excuses and attempts to dodge the reality of this, and do right by that child.

Again, I don't really see any indication that the parents didn't handle the matter of their child misbehaving and hold the child accountable for her behavior. Do you have any evidence to suggest this? All I do see, is parents sticking up and protecting their child. When that child is at school and the parents are at work or wherever, that child is under the schools care in which they pay tax dollars for their child to attend. If they felt that their child was mistreated by the school and the police department, they certainly are entitled to that opinion.

I see people creating a false equivalency and saying that parents holding the school and police accountable = not holding their child accountable. I don't see any evidence to suggest this. What would you like to see, the child get her @$$ whipped, in the public square? How they discipline their child is their business.

    #1.84 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:06 PM EDT

    "I applaud the police and the school for doing what they did! If I ever acted like this when I was in school, I didn't have to worry about the police or the school principal. I had to worry about my dad and what he would do to me! Believe me, I would have preferred the handcuffs and police!"

    I could have wrote the same thing Eric, except that I would have 2 change "dad" 2 "mom". lol

    Was your dad & my mom related? ;-)

    • 7 votes
    #1.85 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:07 PM EDT

    "SURVEY SAYS>>>>"

    hahahahahahahahahaha

    • 1 vote
    #1.86 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:09 PM EDT

    It's about time to start taking things back from the kids and show them who is the parent! I have always allowed anyone to disclipine my son and now he raises his child the same way..... it makes a difference!

    • 5 votes
    #1.87 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:10 PM EDT

    "How would you like it if I blamed your parents for not teaching you how to spell principal correctly?"

    If U can't discuss & must attack...............................well whatever.

    But I'm not attacking - I'm illustrating the point that automatically blaming parents for whatever their minor or adult child does is not sound or reasonable logic.

    I'm not even saying that the parents aren't to blame - I'm just saying that they are entitled to hold the opinion that what happened to THEIR CHILD - regardless of the child's actions - that they raise, feed, and clothe..was unacceptable.

      #1.88 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:11 PM EDT

      I'm sensing some serious anger issues in Tek. Now I wonder:

      A) Is this a bad parent with an out-of-control child, that doesn't want 2 C the parents blamed?

      B) Does Tek have a mental disorder?

      C) Do Tek need a hug?

      • 6 votes
      #1.89 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

      IMO - this might be the best thing to happen for that child.

      From the comments made by the family about the child being "moody" and this was one of her "bad days" and that "maybe she misbehaved" etc... I"m sorry but this sounded like a lot more than typical "misbehavior" and the family sounds like they are in denial that their child has an emotional and/or psychological problem. What will likely result from the charges being pressed is that the court will order psychological evaluation and counseling. In other words, the court will get this child the help that her family is failing to get her. Sometimes parents have a hard time accepting that their child has special needs and are resistant to getting them the help they need, not realizing that their denial is causing more harm than good.

      OK so maybe handcuffs on a 6 year old are a bit much, although to be fair when I had to call 911 because a friend was having a schizophrenic paranoia induced violent episode they carted him off in a straight jacket, so all things considered if the kid had to be restrained to avoid hurting herself or others, maybe the cuffs were appropriate. If she had calmed down by that point however, I don't think they were necessary.

      • 3 votes
      #1.90 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

      I'm sure I'll get booed for this, but putting a little fear in a child at a young age has lasting impressions. My son got spanked on occasion. Sometimes he didn't. But every time he got in trouble he had to stand in the exact same spot and turn around. Sometimes the fear of not knowing was more effective than the swat. This girl needs her azz beat. Now. Discipline is love. There are no 2 ways about it. You do more for your child than by kissing their little tush and letting them get away with everything and teaching them to blame others. And yes, my son is well adjusted, happy, friendly, polite and gets good grades. Also, at 14, he's starting to look for a summer job for when school gets out. So there.

      • 10 votes
      #1.91 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:24 PM EDT

      wow some of these posts are really annoying. No one has the right but me to discipline my child "sarge or robo" whatever. Im very glad we have banned corporal punishment in schools because it did a lot of harm to your generation clearly. Given your "ideals." secondly, if she was 6 it is a little different then if she was a 6th grader but,,,, getting the pigs involved is a little extreme. This girl clearly has onset of a psychological disorder. Not all "bad" kids are that way because of lack of parenting. I think people on this post want only to rant and rave to prove their point that parents out there suck. Get over yourselves im sure your kids are saints. maybe to your faces... take the log out of your own eye or the stick out of your ass lest you be judged. It is provent that autism rates have steadily increased over the past decades and the disorder often goes undiagnosed as well as other psychological disorders. Enough "personal responsibility" @!$%#, obviously those rules don't apply as much to a person handicapped. Did race play a part like one douche had to point out? hmmm perhaps. Would a cute little blonde haired blue eyed girl be arrested for the same? I don't think so for a multitude of reasons. First there is a stigma about black children going on to lead lives riddled with crime. secondly it is perceived that most whitel families wouldn't tolerate their child going to jail for a tantrum. Where were the health professional in the school at when this was going on. Our nation like it or not has many different children in the school systems, some of which have disorders like this that we need to address. Really no one was able to calm this child down? this CHILD needs psychological help, not bars. o and before anyone wants to attack me, i don't use spell check and i don't care about being perfect in my post

        #1.92 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:28 PM EDT

        There's a difference between "disciplining" a child in school and wrangling a totally out of control brat. Yes, school employees should put up with a certain level of misbehavior, but they have to manage 20-30 other children and another child's education shouldn't be put on hold so that they can coddle some crazy kid.

        Even when I was left to my own devices, I never tried to destroy things the way this kid did.

        There's no one to blame but the kid and her parents. I'm glad they put her in handcuffs, serves her right. This is not normal behavior and shouldn't be tolerated. The second we start lowering the expectations for behavior in school and allowing this crap, the second every kid will start meeting those expectations. Keep the bar high.

        • 9 votes
        #1.93 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:30 PM EDT
        mePhDweeDeleted

        "The is never a valid reason to strike a child. It teaches violence and it demonstrates how bullies operate."

        I assume you meant “there is never a reason”. But I really have to correct you. A paddling does not teach violence, nor is it the result of lashing out in frustration or anger. A paddling teaches a simple concept; the concept is that actions have consequences. Personally I think a child is never too young to learn this lesson.

        When a baby starts to crawl, they sometimes fall forward and hit their face. It’s a bit traumatic for the child and they sometimes cry. However from this they learn that they need to steady their arms to avoid falling. When they start walking they sometimes trip over something, again sometimes it hurts or startles them and can be traumatic. But they learn to look down.

        Paddling, or spanking as a response to doing something unacceptable also teaches the child a life lesson. That lesson is that bad choices results in punishment. This is a lesson that too many children are not learning. When my youngest son was in elementary school they had a bitter in his class. The child would bite someone, get sent home where his mom would let him watch cartoons, after a few incidents the child learned that all he had to do to get out of school was bite. Later he moved on to hitting, and later still to stealing, ect. I knew this child because he was also my neighbor. I talked with his mother at length because she was a single mother who believed that her son was acting out because he did not have a father in his life. I told her the problem was not the lack of a father but the fact that he was rewarded for bad behavior. When the issues first started I had recommended that she spank him, and instead of letting him watch cartoons when suspended she should make him work around the house. I told her that I spanked my sons and had made them move piles of stone around my back yard as work detail when they were grounded. Her response was to tell me I was a “horrible human being who got my jollies beating my kids.” She even called DSS on me to report I was beating my kids. Needless to say it had no effect on me. I still spanked, but had to do it rarely and the older they got the less rare it became.

        In high school my sons where model citizens, while the other child was a bully. Mine did their school work, played in several sports and volunteered. My neighbor specialized in vandalism, and theft. Last year my youngest went off to college where he made the dean’s list. He is working towards a degree in engineering and hopes to receive a commission in the Army.

        My neighbor’s son? He dropped out of school a year before graduation because it was “stupid” and would do nothing for his chosen career of race car mechanic. Someone forgot to tell him that most Nascar teams want people with engineering degrees or at least basic knowledge so they can work with or at the direction of engineers. He did land a job working as a janitor at the speedway. Sadly he did not like the job, so he decided it was easier to supplement his income by stealing stuff from cars in the parking lot. Stupid, the security people who all knew him picked him off the video. So jobless, living with his mom, but being all entitled he decides to do a smash and grab for some beer. Idiot got trapped inside the store when he hit the same place twice in a week and the clerk recognized him when he walked in and locked the door. To make a bad situation worse he pulled a knife on the clerk and demanded he open the door. The guy knocked out one of his teeth and broke his arm with a broom handle. The Irony of the former janitor getting beat up with a broom handle was lost on him and his mother. He was charged with assault with a deadly weapon among other things and is doing a short stint at a state prison.

        Listening to his mother complain to our other neighbors saying “I don’t know what went wrong, I gave him everything, I never spanked him, I just don’t know what went wrong”, well it just makes my blood boil. What went wrong is simple. He never learned that his action have negative consequences. If he had his life would have been much better.

        I realize that this is a long and rambling post; I apologize for that. However parents need to wake the heck up. If you are not teaching your kids that there are negative consequences to their unacceptable actions, then you are failing as a parent and your kids will pay the price for that failure. Don’t want to spank, don’t. There are ways to teach this lesson without it. But don’t teach them the opposite lesson, that they will be rewarded for bad decisions. If you don’t teach the lesson then don’t be surprised when you find yourself telling someone, “I don’t know what went wrong, I never spanked them, I gave them everything how did they turn out like this?”

        • 19 votes
        #1.95 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:38 PM EDT

        Let's not forget to add the things we ingest as food today, for helping to create a new "human being".

        With hormone injected, antibiotic fed meats, (as opposed to pink slime), Monsanto's genetically modified seeds, chlorinated water, flouride, aspertane, high fructose corn syrup, etc. what else are we creating as human life forms?

        It is finally showing it's ugly side effects, mentally and physically.

        • 4 votes
        #1.96 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:38 PM EDT

        "Did race play a part like one douche had to point out?"

        Since I didn't know the race of the child until the update, I would have 2 say: Race playing a part? Only 2 the douches.

        Now I suppose, with a name like Salecia I should have ASSUMED the race but.............................wouldn't that make me racist?

        Glad I didn't assume.

        Good post, Harry.

        • 1 vote
        #1.97 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:39 PM EDT

        The kid was just doing what she sees at home.
        I would have gotten paddled/diciplined at school then got the belt when I got home...so I didn't act like that when I was a kid.

        • 6 votes
        #1.98 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:44 PM EDT

        Psychological problem or not - your child's right to a free education ends when the safety of my child is put at risk. If this kind of "tantrum" is common in this child's history she has no right to be in a mainstream school and should be put in a special education classroom.

        Also to those who insist on defending the parents - you're right, their disciplining might not be the problem. The child might have a pschological disorder of some sort. That being said, the parents refusal to see that the behavior exhibited by their child was not normal and the failure to get their child medical help by a pediatric psychologist is in and of itself a form of BAD PARENTING.

        If this family had sat there and said that they knew their kid had a problem, had been trying for months to get help, and been working with the school until they could figure out what was wrong, then they could have been given a pass. They did none of those things however. They said this was "normal" and "mood swings" and the kid "MAY have misbehaved". This is what makes them bad parents, because they cannot see that their child is broken and needs to be fixed. Now. Before the 6 year old is a 16 year old and kills someone.

        • 7 votes
        #1.99 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

        "Also, I really do find it highly unlikely that that a white child would have been treated in the same manner, but that is another story."

        You racist POS.

        My former 9yo stepson was handcuffed and taken away by the police for almost exactly the same thing as this article. His mother started in with the excuses and blaming the school and everybody else, as well. I nipped that in the bud immediately and made it very clear to him that if it happened again, he would be stuck in juvie even longer. The only thing that saved him was that the teacher and principle didn't press charges (which they should have in my opinion.)

        I divorced this woman after realizing how much she had ruined and was ruining those children's lives and how CPS (not called on me, but on her) sent to help them just enabled her even more with their pathetic 'theories" that the children mocked and laughed at right in front of CPS.

        Oh, they were WHITE, btw.

        • 5 votes
        #1.100 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

        Take a parent's right to use corporal punishment and the results are what you see in this report--an out of control, spoiled brat!

        The 'board of education' to the 'seat of knowledge' is what is needed here.

        The school should have been allowed to use corporal punishment. If the parents object to school using corporal punishment, then the parent must accept the consequences of having the police called in this type of incidence.

        Parent's need to own up to their child's misbehavior or look for that child to be front page news for more serious behavior problems as they get older.

        • 5 votes
        #1.101 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:46 PM EDT

        thats funny because i saw the race of the child in the article from the picture. its actually the first thing that popped up on my screen...

          #1.102 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:49 PM EDT

          Obviously a screwed up kid. Biting doors and violently attacking others like that, of course she had to be restrained. What other (acceptable) solution is there - take out a belt and beat her into submission? Cold conk her with a punch to the jaw?

          If her parents failed to teach her how to behave, whatever upset they feel about how the kid was treated as a result of that failure to raise her right, they brought upon themselves.

          • 6 votes
          #1.103 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:51 PM EDT

          "She has mood swings some days, which all of us have mood swings some days," she told WMAZ-TV. "I guess that was just one of her bad days."

          No, this is a parent who is enabling bad behavior. The school was right to have the girl hauled off, with handcuffs. Since most schools no longer have any power in discipline, it falls to the Police to take up the slack. I seriously doubt this is the first time the child has been in trouble at school.

          I was with Old Sarge until the last sentence. Under no circumstance should this child be home schooled by her parents. Her parents are a big part of the problem. Keeping her at home will not solve her behavior problems. The schools needs to insist the child be checked by a Dr/Child psychologist as a requirement to return to school. Additionally, a discipline plan should be created for this child that both the School and the Parents use. A unified plan is the only way. There will be no improvement in behavior as long as the school expects appropriate behavior and her parent do not support the schools rules.

          • 5 votes
          #1.104 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:52 PM EDT

          Mom says "She has mood swings." Had it been me instead of making excuses for the news media my response would have been... My child's behavior was un-excusable, and I have taken steps to ensure that it will NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN. Furthermore I would like to apologize to the Principal and Teacher, and furthermore a letter from my child is forthcoming. Dad says "They had no business handcuffing my child like that." Had it been me.. The officer had to take action to protect the Principal and keep my child from hurting herself. What is going on here is plain excuse making and blame shifting.. The evidence is plane as day.. You are simply blind to seeing it.. And No I would not like to see the child get her a$$ whopped in the middle of a public square. I already stated what I would like to see. You quoted it in your response.. Maybe you should read it. I say what I mean and I mean what I say. Furthermore this "moody child" threw books, threw a shelf, and injured The Principal. and all Dad can say is "They had no business handcuffing my child like that." What were they suppose to do? Maybe give her a lolly pop and send her back to class? Yes you may be right. when you say "When that child is at school and the parents are at work or wherever, that child is under the schools care in which they pay tax dollars for their child to attend. If they felt that their child was mistreated by the school and the police department, they certainly are entitled to that opinion." However consider this.. The schools are paid to educate our children they are not paid to be assulted by an obviously out of control child. The only mistreatment going on here is first when that child assulted staff and destroyed school property, and then when the parents decided instead of doing the right thing they go on the attack and refuse to even acknowlege the real problem. And that is a crying shame!

          • 3 votes
          #1.105 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:54 PM EDT
          mePhDweeDeleted

          i say it all the time... george carlin said it best... you baby boomers complain about EVERYTHING! there is not one single topic you don't complain about! Blah blah the new generations such blah blah. Ya your days riddled with coke and drugs and then bitter you had to wake up. I seriously cant wait for you guys to die off. you all think you know everything and complain about everything get lives.

            #1.107 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:58 PM EDT

            @ashp,

            The pic wasn't there until the update.

            • 1 vote
            #1.108 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:59 PM EDT

            You racist POS.

            My former 9yo stepson was handcuffed and taken away by the police for almost exactly the same thing as this article. His mother started in with the excuses and blaming the school and everybody else, as well. I nipped that in the bud immediately and made it very clear to him that if it happened again, he would be stuck in juvie even longer. The only thing that saved him was that the teacher and principle didn't press charges (which they should have in my opinion.)

            I divorced this woman after realizing how much she had ruined and was ruining those children's lives and how CPS (not called on me, but on her) sent to help them just enabled her even more with their pathetic 'theories" that the children mocked and laughed at right in front of CPS.

            Oh, they were WHITE, btw.

            lmfao, I'm a "racist POS" for stating that it was less likely for a little white child to be treated like that?

            What white person was harmed by my opinion? Do tell.

            • 2 votes
            #1.109 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:05 PM EDT

            My opinion, they had the right to call the police. That child, by throwing things & "resisting & fighting" back, was putting herself & other in danger of injury. Which it states the principal was hit with a shelf. "Biting the doorknob"!!! WTH!! & her parents think this behavior is okay?? They probably laugh &/or think its cute when she does such things at home. How do people expect schools to teach students if they behave like this & are uncontrollable. I don't think it's fair for a teacher to have to constantly stop class b/c a unruly student decides they don't want to straighten up, it takes away the learning time for other students & puts them in harms way if the misbehaved one decided to throw stuff around. Parents need to start putting their foot down, when a child misbehaves instead of "trying to be their friend." I have a 2 year old & another baby on the way, & I can guarantee that neither of children will behave this way, & if they do in order to see "how much they can get away with," they will most def. be punished. Had i done this in school, my dad would have spanked my butt & I'd have been doing all sorts of chores, probably until I moved out of the house! I wouldn't have so much as talked back to a teacher. And plus what was the school suppose to do, they tried reaching the mother several times & she couldn't be contacted. Sad to say, but the way her parents seem to let her get away with doing such things, this probably won't be the last time she will be arrested.

            • 5 votes
            #1.110 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:08 PM EDT

            Johnson's aunt, Candace Ruff, said the girl "might have misbehaved, but I don't think she actually misbehaved to the point that she should have been handcuffed and taken downtown to the police department."

            "Call the police? Is that the first step? Or is there any other kind of intervention that can be taken to help that child," she asked.

            "Might have misbehaved?" She is combative with any types of authority. She is even biting at door knobs? Sounds like she gets angry and acts out. Moody?? Really??

            I'll make a prediction that this girl will be in juvy before her 13th birthday. She has absolutely no repsect for anyone and her Mother is condoning it.

            My brother is a cop and has been for 20 years. I was with him one night when he spotted two young girls hanging out near a run down night club past the midnight curfew. They wouldn't tell him their names at first, but he eventually found out by offering to take them to jail. At home number one, I could hear the Mother yelling at the girl, appologizing for her behavior and assuring my brother that he would never find this young girl out late again. At house number two the Mother was yelling at my brother for bothering her daughter when he should be out catching criminals.

            Guess which parent got a $500 ticket. I can see the same pattern here!!

            • 5 votes
            #1.111 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:15 PM EDT

            If Katlynn ever did this and got arrested I wouldn't be yelling at the teacher or the cops. I'd make sure Katlynn was deaf from my yelling and at least spank her. Parents need to actually show that they're in control and not the kids.

            • 1 vote
            #1.112 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:27 PM EDT

            Yes, school employees should put up with a certain level of misbehavior...

            Therein lies the entire problem. To consider ANY misbehavior as somehow acceptable or tolerable is the root of the issue, however, these parents, and many, many other families these days have an attitude that poor behavior is normal. In fact I could go so far as to say that in many cases, they may not even be aware of what proper, respectful behavior really is. The behavior of the parents in the video demonstrates this. Youngsters such as this act in the same ways that are exhibited in their homes.

            In the case of this poor little girl, I would assume that it is "normal" behavior for all of the individuals in her home to scream and yell and possibly throw things until they get their way; so this is what she did at school. When the parents found out about it, they reacted as though her behavior was completely acceptable and that it was the response of the authorities which was out of line.

            Perhaps a parenting class might be in order, but I seriously doubt this family would attend. If these kinds of issues continue in the young girl's future, perhaps a case could be made for child endangerment, and she could be removed from the dysfunctional home environment for her own good, but this would be difficult to prove and document, and even more difficult to implement. When placed in foster care she would just be an unmanageable nightmare, so this would likely not really help.

            I'm not sure what the best solution in her specific case is, but I will say this... In general, I believe it is the notion that corporal punishment (spanking) has become broadly unacceptable which has led to many of these types of situations. Is corporal punishment the BEST form of discipline? No. Certainly there are systems of reward and consequence which can be implemented in order to correct and modify a young child's behavior. The key word here being SYSTEM. Such an approach requires a level of sophisticated organization and planning and consistency which many families are not able to comprehend, much less execute. In such unsophisticated families it used to be the hand or the belt or the switch which was utilized as an instructional intrument, to discourage misbehavior, but when that became widely disapproved of, many unsophisticated families were left with nothing, so as a result they now just let the children basically run wild.

            The result is virtually undisciplined youngsters entering our educational system who have no comprehension of appropriate limits, behavior and respect for authority. If it doesn't manifest in the form of physical violence it gets expressed as sarcasm and rudeness towards teachers and prncipals, as described in the article. The argument for this type of laissez faire lenient approach is often couched in terms of protecting or preserving the students' ostensibly fragile sense of self-esteem. But this is nonsense. The result is over entitled spoiled brats who feel that can and should get away with what ever they wish, and this is a recipe for disaster, both on the individual and the large scale.

            Students are promoted up through the grades, often without ever meeting any of the expected standards, and they arrive at the high school with a functional ability of 3rd graders and we are required to teach them nothing lower than algebra. They can't do the work to save their own lives. What does this do to their so called fragile "self-esteem"? They then act out in various ways, but there are no consequences available beyond various forms of "time out" rooms and suspension if really necessary, which is perceived by the student as a vacation. This is the cause of much of the educational difficulties in our country today, but I have gotten off track...

            I will close with one final thought: When assessments of criminals within the prison system are tabulated, guess which ones have the highest self esteem? Serial murderers. Think on that for awhile as to it's implications regarding discipline, respect, and self control. Thanks for reading my comments.

            • 6 votes
            #1.113 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:31 PM EDT

            My mother worked at a youth crisis facility until her recent retirement. Whenever any of the kids went on a tantrum bender, the youth workers weren't allowed to touch them and had to call the police and then stand back and let it happen. By the time the police showed up to cart the offender off to juvy, sometimes thousands of dollars in property damage had been done. Then the youth workers and other kids were left to clean up the mess the little monster left behind. It was beyond ridiculous.

            • 7 votes
            #1.114 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:36 PM EDT

            I agree that you can't automatically blame the parents.... but in this case, it's bad parnting. Look at the family's responses. They all seem to think that this little girl's behavior was acceptable. She knocked over a bookshelf and was throwing things. She hurt people. ...and they are shocked that she got in trouble? They called it a "bad day?" What do you suppose she gets away with at home?

            • 5 votes
            #1.115 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:49 PM EDT

            joeylowe

            Don't mean to sound rude, but I read the article and it said "kindergartner" and 6 year-old, but the video shows a 6th grader (maybe 12 years old). Big difference if you ask me.

            Wrong video joey. There are two videos and you watched the teen. The first one on the top is the kindergardener.

            • 1 vote
            #1.116 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

            Congratulations Chris-749391 you just showed how ignorant you are. Central State Hospital was opened in 1842 when Milledgeville was still the state capital, not after. Also, a majority of the patients at CSH were from other parts of Georgia not Milledgeville. Milledgeville got labeled as the "crazy" town because CSH hospital was there, NOT because the people there were considered crazy and so that's why CSH was built there. Milledgeville is actually a nice town full of friendly people but like everywhere else there's going to be a few who give everyone else a bad name. It's sad when people now a days would rather believe rumors over fact.

            • 1 vote
            #1.117 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

            Mood swings? My daughter wouldn't do that? Oh well, I guess she had a bad day??

            Sounds like she needs a good ole fashion trip to the woodshed. Of course, parents who have no control over their kids never think they do any thing wrong.

            • 6 votes
            #1.118 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:18 PM EDT

            Oh, and I love how MSNBC shows an angelic child ll smiles in the picture. Wouldn't be more sensationalist journalism, would it?

            • 4 votes
            #1.119 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

            This girl is way beyond being just a little brat. Where does she get her violent tendencies? Look at Mom and Dad for that. Kids mirror their parents, much to the chagrin of those parents. I wonder what her parents are like? Do they have criminal records? Have there been calls to 911 about domestic violence? Or maybe no calls, just abuse and violence?

            The kid definitely is going to end up in prison or dead if she continues to behave this way. If she were 10 years older, she would have been arrested and charged with any number of crimes, not the least of which would be assault on the principal. If the parents decide to file suit against the police or the school, the school needs to sue the parents for the actions of the child, especially the assault on the principal and the vandalism.

            Also, if the mother was unable to be reached, shame on her. She has a child, and mothers (or fathers) ALWAYS need to be available in case of an emergency, such as this instance, especially when you have a child in elementary school. The parents appear to be playing the "blame game," hoping everyone will feel sorry for their little hellion, while directing attention away from their inadequate parenting practices. Maybe the child should be taken away from them???

            • 3 votes
            #1.120 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

            I would never condone this behavior ever, and the parents are also at fault. If this were one of my children, they would have been begging the school to help get them out of the country before I found out. I am not an abuser, but I believe in discipline, not abuse.

            Now to the point. These cops have become more cowardly and stupid by the day. Can't do the job without cuffing a 6 year-old? Then quit, because there are plenty who can. It really is that simple.

            • 2 votes
            #1.121 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

            Her Mother said.. "She has mood swings some days, which all of us have mood swings some days," she told WMAZ-TV. "I guess that was just one of her bad days." Are you kidding me???

            This child is in desperate need of guidance and boundaries....... if her parents are unable or unwilling to give them to her she needs to be placed in a foster or group home.... BEFORE she ends up one of these teenagers who runs wild, hurting/killing as many as she can and end up in a prison and on Death Row.

            What is wrong with people anymore? They have kids then DO NOT parent them.

            • 2 votes
            #1.122 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

            "She has mood swings some days

            If she is biting door knobs they better neuter her before she reaches puberty!

            • 2 votes
            #1.123 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:19 PM EDT

            "She has mood swings some days, which all of us have mood swings some days," she told WMAZ-TV. "I guess that was just one of her bad days."

            Please, somebody call CPS.

            • 4 votes
            #1.124 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

            htdjpf:

            What surprises me the least about this case is how MSNBC has once again BIASED-LY chosen to try and make it a story about "RACE", when it is about an out-of-control child.

            LOL, where did the article even make any mention of race? Projecting much?

            • 2 votes
            #1.125 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

            Actually I am happy the school made the decision to call the cops. They could not get in touch with the parents. And as a person who was going to teach pre-K, there was a student who got upset, said he was going to chop off a fellow student's head, and threw furniture around. We isolated the other children and called the principal's office who called his parents. We had a conference and he was kicked out of school. It was not the first time it happened, and the difference is the parents were aware of his behavior and were trying to help him. This kid was 4 yo. His parents were very nice people who did not blame the school.

            Back to the story, the child is out of control and obviously the parents do not care. They seem like the type of parents who do not care but will be the first to sue the school. I think by calling the cops, the school has protected themselves. I blame the parents because they should have taught the child better. As for the folks who are against corporal punishment, I will say this, I don't recall corporal punishment in elementary school, but it was in middle and high school. The school did not have the right to paddle you unless your parents signed the paper that stated they could and only the disciplinarian could paddle you. A lot of you act like it's a free for all and anybody can paddle you when that was not true. Actually this girl sounds like she needs a good a$$ whipping. A lot of the so called punishments do not work imo, time out is a joke, the steps are a joke. I say either whip her butt or put her on her knees for a long period of time. Yes, it hurts but they will get the message. Too many parents want to be their kids friends today and that is a problem. If this child needs help, it is the parents job to get it. Why should the school be responsible for raising this child? I will say something that I know for a fact and it's that a lot of black folks are in denial about mental illness, if that is what is wrong with her, and that is why they are saying she has mood swings? What in the hell do they think mood swings come from? Duh.

            • 3 votes
            #1.126 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:27 PM EDT

            When my son pitches a temper tantrum I am embarrassed when I see myself in him. This type of behavior is learned from the environment they grow up in. If mom or dad throws things or destroys things in a fit of rage their child hasn't learned any other way of dealing with their emotions and frustrations so they too will throw and destroy things. Look closer to home and you will find the answer.

            • 1 vote
            #1.127 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:58 PM EDT

            I don't blame the school at all in this matter. After multiple attempts to contact the parent, the school really had no choice on what to do about the unruly child. Usually being sent to the principals office is enough to get most kids to calm down.

            In most families, any kind of punishment from the parents is usually much worse than what the school does. In this case, the apparent reaction is not asking the child what they did, it is asking the child what was done to them. The thought that the child could do no wrong is the source of the problem.

            Many people of the "me generation" are of the opinion that society owes them, and their children are raised to expect that they can do anything they want, and there are no consequences.

            While many children do have some mental disorders, to immediately assume a child has ADD or ADHD or some other cause to any discipline problems is to put the blame anywhere but on the child and parents. Some kids just don't listen and their parents defend them. Those are the ones the school has every right to just suspend or expel.

            • 3 votes
            #1.128 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:55 PM EDT

            Arresting that Baby was wrong on so many levels!!!! First of all, she can't even be charged because of her age, therefore she should'nt have been handcuffed. A social worker ect. should have been called. She is a child, therefore the school has failed her by calling the police and expelling her, when she obviously needs behavior modification.. I hate to have to go there, but could it be that these unnecessary measures were takin because the child is black...???? I watched "Caught on Camera" and the police was on a car pursuit, driven by a young 6 or 7 yr old white male, who stole his parents car from church because he did'nt want to stay at church. He proceded to run stop signs, lights and bob and weave the road until he got home. Then took off running when the car was in park, he was not handcuffed and taken to a police station. And he could have killed someone else or his self. He stole a car, did'nt have license, and ran from the police.

            I understood what he did was foolish and wrong but no one, blamed his parents or arrested him.. And I understand that.!! So, why is everyone so hard on this child and her parents...!!!!!???

              #1.129 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:13 PM EDT

              @WhoMadd

              The school didn't fail this child the parents did that and when I read the article there's no rules against bringing a child into custody within the state. Other places are different but I agree with this states laws. Screw age discrimination children need to learn they aren't in control if their parents don't teach them. If it were allowed have her visit a maximum security prison to show her this is what she will go to if she doesn't change. And we're being so hard on the parents and the kid because they were in the wrong.

              • 3 votes
              #1.130 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:28 PM EDT

              This child should be taught a really good lesson, she should be taken up to the front of the class, have her panty's pulled down and paddle her butt until it blisters, and don't stop until she cry's uncle, and I do mean cry's! Yes sir, don't let these type's of children get away with anything, beat them until they understand that your way is the only way and that they will get it every time they get out of line. Yeah, solve the problem with corporal and humiliating punishment, beat it into them until they break. That's the only way to teach these kids today, psychologically rape them, once you've done that their heats & minds will follow. . . . . . . . Physical & emotional pain teaching of a child DOES NOT WORK! Doing nothing to correct the problem in the child, also, does not work. It's a hole lot easier to whip a kids butt for a few minutes and then go off and do your thing than taking time with the child for an hour or so and teaching him/her responsibility and sticking to it. I believe this child was trying to tell her parents (by acting out at school) that something was very wrong inside her but did not know what or how to tell them, and, punishing her or humiliating her will only drive the problem deeper and not help her or society. I will tell you now, my life was ruined because my parents did not want to take the time to find out what was going on inside me and by the time they realized it was to late. My parents loved me very much but because of what happened to them in "their" childhood, blocked any ability to raise children (especially a boy) successfully.

                #1.131 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:04 AM EDT

                Smart man. I like your way of thinking but they can't do the panties down part. That would be considered child molestation if it's not your kid. Could be wrong though it's happened many times.

                • 1 vote
                #1.132 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:28 AM EDT

                "She has mood swings some days, which all of us have mood swings some days," she told WMAZ-TV. "I guess that was just one of her bad days."

                I guess the conservatives were wrong...the Antichrist is born, but it's not Obama...

                A child like this needs intensive treatment...this is insane.

                  #1.133 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:49 PM EDT

                  Violet-3912626Restored

                  Would calling the police after the desk throwing incident have cured the situation? Any teacher who thinks that the criminal justice system is the answer to any child behavior problem or mental disorder needs to stop teaching.

                  Calling the police would serve one of two outcomes.

                  #1. It would show the child that they can not get away with everything their lazy parents will allow or excuse. Maybe just maybe the child would decide to adjust their behavior to a more suitable more human less animal standard.

                  OR

                  #2. If the child ignores this chance to adjust their behavior, the police & handcuff experience can give the child a head start on getting used to their future life behind bars.

                  Society will not put up with the BS this child is allowed to dish out at home. Future educators of all levels whether it be high school or college will not put up with this behavior, why should elementary faculty put up with it? What if during her little "bad mood day" tantrum her kicking throwing and destruction caused injury to someone else's well behaved child?

                  To ALL those who think this was harsh treatment for a child, please read the following scenario and answer the question at the end.

                  You are at work, and the school calls to tell you that your child was rushed to the emergency room. You run out of work to rush to the hospital. You arrive there only to be handed a form of consent to operate on your child's eye. After a few hours the doctors talk to you saying they are sorry but they could not save the eye. They try to comfort you by saying the child can be fitted with a prosthetic eye. Your 6 year old has a glass eye. You demand answers about how this could have happened. You are told that someone else's child was in a bad mood, having a bad day, and in a wild tantrum that child started throwing things. A simple ink pen punctured your child's eyeball. Other people were hurt including the teacher. More damage was done to school property and supplies. It seems that no one could stop this child from acting out in this manner and if they tried they got hurt.

                  Pick one:

                  A: The police should be called in to do what they do best, their job of protecting the public.

                  B: Let's not hurt the feelings of the wild child with attempts to control the wild uncontrollable child no matter what they are doing wrong.

                    #1.134 - Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

                    It sounds as if this child has a disorder such as ADHD or Asperger's Syndrome (high-functioning autism). These kids can get terribly frustrated, are frequently disruptive and bellicose, and can be very difficult to control. Beating them into submission (e.g. using corporal punishment) will not teach anger management or self-control. It just feeds the fury. Such disorders can be complicated and difficult to diagnose, and many school districts (especially with recent cutbacks) are not equipped to provide adequate management of these kids. Without a diagnosis, the school cannot treat the child differently, and gets no funding for additional personnel or programming to help the child.

                    The principal had an obligation to protect the students and staff at the school, so removing the child was probably the safest for all involved. Handcuffs were probably utilized to prevent the child from harming herself or the property around her.

                    I hope the parents of this child seek psychological help for her. She will need it if she is going to be a 7-year-old in kindergarten!

                    • 1 vote
                    #1.135 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:18 AM EDT
                    Reply

                    Police are what's left when parents refuse to discipline their children and schools are afraid to.

                    • 93 votes
                    #2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

                    And she'll do it again. Schools legally can't do anything more than call in security or police to protect other students, teachers and property. We all know that this ought be an indication to the parent her kid is a violent disturbed little monster who got that way from her environment and heredity, but we all know it won't be and this kid will continue to cause trouble - as will the bad ass mother. Jeebus, most parents would be ashamed and immediately get the kid help and sign up for free county social services parenting classes. FYI: this is why soooo many more secular parents who used to be pro-public schools are now homeschooling. I know of two former teachers, one grade school and the other high school, whose families now pinch pennies so the mom can stay home and school their kids. Both say they could no longer take the stress and physical danger from a growing number of kids and parents just like this.

                    • 24 votes
                    #2.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:35 PM EDT

                    Someone check her for rabies.

                    • 13 votes
                    #2.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:48 PM EDT

                    A little butt whippin at home when necessary will save a lot of handcuffs

                    • 17 votes
                    #2.3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:03 PM EDT

                    Violet - school officials are not allowed by law to restrain a child. The only people who can restrain a child are the police. The police were very appropriate in this situation.

                    If school officials had restrained that child, the parents could sue the school district, FYI.

                    • 14 votes
                    #2.4 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:14 PM EDT

                    Yes, Police ARE what's left. If the school had been the one's trying to restrain this child, you bet your ass a lawsuit would be in the parents cards. That's how people are these days. There is no accountability.

                    School teachers are there to teach, not punish. If a child needs discipline for their actions, and the schools actions for that discipline are not making a solution for the child's behavior, then law enforcement does need to take over. These teachers don't get paid enough to be dodging desks and glass while trying to grab a child and hold them still. Especially with other children present.

                    This was done by the book and I have no problem whatsoever how it was handled. The problem I have is with the parents/relatives and their remarks like this:

                    Johnson's aunt, Candace Ruff, said the girl "might have misbehaved, but I don't think she actually misbehaved to the point that she should have been handcuffed and taken downtown to the police department."

                    That's great that we hear what you THINK Mrs Ruff, but the fact that you weren't there and were no part of this situation makes your THOUGHTS invalid.

                    The child would not calm down, the school brought in legal enforcers to take over, they attempted to call the mother over and over and over and over and over and over, and nobody would answer. The cop is not going to sit in the principals office with the child all day, and the child cannot stay at the school anymore. Time for a trip downtown.

                    • 10 votes
                    #2.5 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:15 PM EDT

                    Sounds like a spoiled brat that the parents are a major blame for behavior. Need to send the whole family to headshrinkers, they all need help!

                    • 8 votes
                    #2.6 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

                    Imagine when this child grows up and gets a CCP from the local NRA store. Now she's packin', and with no concept of consequences for her acts. Good luck Georgia!

                    • 1 vote
                    #2.7 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:23 PM EDT

                    The child has mood swings and this was a "Bad Day"? Good Lord. I hope DSS was called on this family. They need some serious help.

                    • 8 votes
                    #2.8 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:28 PM EDT

                    Hopefully she learned her lesson. Or maybe her parents will sue and win a bunch of money and she'll learn something completely different.

                      #2.9 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:40 PM EDT

                      Yes, Police ARE what's left. If the school had been the one's trying to restrain this child, you bet your ass a lawsuit would be in the parents cards. That's how people are these days. There is no accountability.

                      Wow, that's a very cynical outlook on life you are espousing. The teachers at my child's school restrain my child often and have never resorted to calling the cops. I have never considered suing them for it either. In fact, I think them every time I see them for their hard work and dedication for assisting the growth of my beautiful child. I don't think that's how "people are these days" I think that's how you are, or at least how you see the world.

                      New federal data indicate that 1 in 88 U.S. children had autism or other autism spectrum disorders in 2008, up from 1 in 110 kids in 2006 and 1 in 150 in 2002.

                      There are many children in need of modern professional child education and the numbers are on the rise. I hope your attitude does not prevail or many of them will end up being thrown into the criminal justice system like they used to be back in the early 20th century. It worries me a bit just how convinced you are that perp-walking a 6 year old is a great thing. Even if it is a 12 year old in question I would think you would see the incident for what it is - an unfortunate circumstance that can be good for no one.

                        #2.10 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:52 PM EDT

                        My son, in 3rd grade was a victim of this kind of physical abuse and I wish the school had called the police! He had a chair, desk, sissors and various other things thrown at him. He was pushed off his bike into a parked car more than once, into a pole and into the middle of the road. This happened for months on end and the school's solution was to move MY son (one of many victims) to another school. When this happened on public property and not the school grounds - then I called the police! We informed the parents, school and aggressive child that he could be charged (in Texas they can be at age 10) and we would place a restraining order on him. Once the police became involved, then the parents decided to be coming involved and actually parent their child.

                        I support this school and their decision 100% - why should every other child be in danger? This child was NOT just having a 'moody' day - they need serious medical assistance and the parents need counselling in child behavior and welfare.

                        • 8 votes
                        #2.11 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

                        It's not how I see the world. It's how the world has become. Everything is a lawsuit these days, and when I say people, I don't mean the entire human race. You know what I mean.

                        And I SERIOUSLY doubt that your child behaved the way the child of this story behaved. Your child may get restrained often like you say, but c'mon.... biting the doorknob? knocking over desks? trying to break glass? jumping up and down on computer hardware? Is the teacher supposed to SIT on the student while she tries to continue to do her job???? Is the principal supposed to put the student in the closet while he continues to do his job???? Tell me Overlord, what were they supposed to do for this child who wouldn't stop trying to run out of the office while throwing tantrums and not calming down? What?

                        • 3 votes
                        #2.12 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

                        Everybody go and see the movie BULLY in theaters right now!

                        After watching that documentary, come back and tell me that the school should be the sole responsibility of these students. uhhhh. no.

                        • 5 votes
                        #2.13 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:10 PM EDT
                        mePhDweeDeleted

                        Tell me Overlord, what were they supposed to do for this child who wouldn't stop trying to run out of the office while throwing tantrums and not calming down? What?

                        Adam, I know what you meant and I'm not attacking you for it. I was just pointing out that the outrage should be over the fact that things have come to this state in our society and not aimed at the child caught in the middle. In this specific case with the laws and conditions being what they are perhaps you are right that we can't blame the school for taking the action they did - despite the fact that it is outrageously inappropriate for the child's well-being. Unless we are all willing to blame small children for the breakdown of our social institutions this should be alarming to every parent and citizen. The point is that we should have in place a decent education system that is able to deal with every child - even disruptive emotionally disturbed kids. It's not as though we have a shortage of people looking for work? To me it is a canary-in-the-coal-mine kind of story that should be a wakeup call for everyone that we had better collectively fix our broken education institution or suffer the consequences in the future. Based on my own school district I know that dedicated and capable teachers and school administrators do exist, unfortunately they weren't available for this child. Maybe I am just a bleeding heart liberal but I'm not willing to give up on innocent children - I have to draw the line somewhere and that's not something I'm willing to do.

                          #2.15 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:41 PM EDT

                          This little girl is a child who was damaged before she went to school. She is acting out from something that is happening to her at home. You don't have that kind of anger and all of a sudden "it is something new". Her family can't blame the school because this child didn't like what she was told to do in school. Hopefully, this doesn't become a race issue since everything is about race. GET THAT CHILD THE HELP SHE NEEDS. Evidently her family doesn't see a problem. The child needs to get inpatient help to deal with her anger that is deep inside of her. Get her away from the people who do not see a problem. I'm pulling for the child to get the help she needs and maybe she will have a chance at a normal life.

                          • 3 votes
                          #2.16 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

                          mePhwedee, I hear you!!!

                            #2.17 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

                            Denver Bill

                            I agree and it is why we have an Independent School District Police Department here. How much do you think that costs us as taxpayers???

                              #2.18 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

                              Vickie why do you think something happened to the child at home? Some children are just born bad, it has nothing to do with home life. I wouldn't be surprised if she just gets her way and when she doesn't she acts out and no one corrects her. The parents are in denial and think that they (cops, teachers, etc.) are out to get her. Just because a child cuts up in school doesn't mean that something bad happens. Maybe she has a mental issue, but once again I will say it, if she does, her parents are in denial.

                              • 1 vote
                              #2.19 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:33 PM EDT

                              With teachers and faculty not able to "touch" a child who is unruly, what do you expect them to do with a bad child. I say let the beatings begin again and we won't have all these problems with child behavior. Parents are too lax on teaching thier children what is right and wrong. Too many are under the false impression that thier kid is a special little perfect snowflake and that when something goes wrong, it is never the kid's fault. The problem isn't the school, the cops, the teachers... its the parents.

                              • 1 vote
                              #2.20 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:16 AM EDT
                              Reply

                              I completely agree with the Police. As parents, you have an obligation to control your children. If you can't, this is the consequence. I'd also consider looking for therapy. That's not completely normal for a child to throw things like that, and injure another person.

                              • 61 votes
                              #3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

                              @parker1434 completely agree something is NOT normal here

                              • 12 votes
                              #3.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:41 AM EDT

                              Actually, Parker, the kid was in school so the principal and teacher had an obligation to control the child. What kind of failed adult calls the police on a little girl? A NORMAL SANE adult (including a parent, aunt, neighbor, or teacher) would grab her and wrap their body around her and rock until she calmed down. Then the child would be taken to a quiet place to chill. Later, it would be determined whether discipline or therapy or medication is in order. Again, a failed and uneducated would think that the criminal justice system is the answer for a first grade temper tantrum.

                              • 8 votes
                              #3.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:51 AM EDT

                              Yes, and if the teacher or principal "wrap their body around here and rock until she calmed down" they would be charged with sexual assault. Schools have had all their disciplinary teeth pulled so that have to call the police just to protect themselves.

                              • 71 votes
                              #3.3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:00 PM EDT

                              Actually Violet, a school official can not put their hands/arms around a kid, that leaves the door open an entirely different lawsuit the parents could file. They tried contacting the parents of the kid and that was probably all they had on file. They took the appropriate steps to try and control the situation without getting into a bigger mess then what this is.

                              • 54 votes
                              #3.4 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:00 PM EDT

                              Sorry Violet but you are incorrect in such a case as this. Teachers don't have any recourse especially when the mother (probably the only phone number the school was given) wouldn't answer her phone. When a child is this violent, simply wrapping your arms around the child does not work. The parents have to be involved here, and they obviously weren't. I would not normally condone this action, but I think it was quite justified in this case.

                              The child might have issues with bi-polar, but something is not right for a child to be so violent.

                              • 39 votes
                              #3.5 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

                              Violet- Teachers can get in HUGE trouble for having that amount of physical contact with a child. As a rule you try not to touch children in the classroom too much, especially a full-body embrace. Teachers and principals really have essentially no power against these children because of fear of lawsuits and losing their jobs. Better to let somebody else handle it (unfortunately if the parents didn't think it was better to let someone else handle it, i.e. teachers, this wouldn't be an issue)

                              • 33 votes
                              #3.6 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:03 PM EDT

                              I am not saying (didn't watch the video) in anyway shape or form that what this 'kid' did was justified - BUT google Aspberger's. Or it could be just bad parenting! NO it is NOT just 'one of those days'. Something is WAY screwed up - could be both child and parents. Would make for a 'perfect storm' of a bad kid.

                              • 11 votes
                              #3.7 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:04 PM EDT

                              You're not an educator are you Violet? In a "NORMAL,SANE" world, perhaps hugging the child might work, but do you have ANY idea what the repercussions of putting your hands on a child can be? When the school was unable to contact the parents, the police are the only choice.

                              • 34 votes
                              #3.8 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:04 PM EDT

                              Violet, I worked in the public school system as a teacher. If you touch a child in any way, including to grab a child and wrap your body around them (as you suggest), not only do you risk being sued or charged with assault, harassment, etc., but this violent child could have also bitten, scratched or injured one of the staff members. This was no ordinary tantrum. She was biting door knobs and jumping up and down on a paper shredder, for god's sake! Don't get me wrong......sometimes it has to be done. I know lots of teachers who have had to physically break up fights before and you just can't blame them for that. But there is always some litigious parent out there just waiting to slap a law suit. I am betting this is not the first time something like this may have happened with the girl and the teachers/administrators saw the parents were doing nothing to help or correct it. So perhaps they were trying to send a more blatant message by calling in the police.

                              • 35 votes
                              #3.9 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:05 PM EDT

                              Violet, there is a MAJOR line that was crossed with that child's behavior. Once the child is seemlingly wild and crazed, she is beyond consoling. Just like if someone went to counseling and discussed the fact that they had urges to rape and wanted help, they could be assisted. But once you've raped someone, you then deserve consequences. Hopefully, it isn't too late to assist, but further preventative steps need to be taken for the safety of others. That girl sounds like a wild animal. Disgusting parents and child.

                              • 20 votes
                              #3.10 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:05 PM EDT

                              Isn't THAT the problem? That the adults allegedly caring for children all day don't actually CARE for them? When they have a problem, they hide because of rules and call the police? Sorry, you have an ethical responsibility to children and if you pathetic and can't figure out what to do without calling the cops, then quit. NORMAL PEOPLE DON'T CALL THE POLICE ON LITTLE KIDS!!! Seriously, if this were a neighbor kid you would hold her down until she calmed down. That is what normal people do.

                              • 3 votes
                              #3.11 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:05 PM EDT

                              @Violet I don't think any teacher would try to do that because next thing you know the kids gonna say the teacher touched them and then the parents will come and the lawsuits will start flying. It is not the schools or the police's job to parent the child. That would be the parents job. This was much more than a tantrum. The kid has issues that no one not even the parents are addressing. And maybe if the mom picked up her phone when the cop tried to call her 6 times then maybe they wouldn't have brought the child to the police station.

                              • 23 votes
                              #3.12 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:07 PM EDT

                              Little kids? If those cuffs fit, she was no "little kid". How do you stop her from hurting herself? She has to be restrained. Maybe some clothesline. what happens when the little darking injures another kid?

                              Yet once again, MSNBC screw it up. She is a sixth grader, not a kindergarten student. Mom sees nothing wrong. sure my kid was uncontrollable, but "not my problem".

                              I love the part where she states"now i know how to talk to a teacher". Are you kidding me? A sixth grader with no parental guidance on how to talk to an adult. what was she like up to this point? Talk about clueless..

                              • 4 votes
                              #3.13 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 PM EDT

                              Sorry Violet, unfortunately we have too many people in America who are sue happy and lots of people are unable to do their jobs 100% properly anymore because of this. You can't tell people to break the law just because it seems like the right thing for you to do. This is a school system, not your neighbor that you might be really good friends with.

                              • 19 votes
                              #3.14 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

                              Violet you seem to be in your own little world! Do you have any children? I agree with the school calling the police. If it was my child, yes I may be upset, but I would have to look at the whole situation and try to fix it. This child needs help and apparently so do the parents. I have bad days too, but I do not go around trying to hurt people and throwing things around. Oh and yes I have had to call the sheriff on my daughter one time, because she was throwing a tantrum over a fricken cell phone and she punch my husband in the stomach. The sheriff coming out and talking to her actually did good. I am good and sure if I insisted he would of handcuffed her and put her in the patrol car. Sometimes even us parents need some outside help!!

                              • 25 votes
                              #3.15 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

                              I have worked with children that have violent temper out bursts, and restraining them physically or with medication is sometimes the only recourse we had. The school had no way to do control her without getting into a messy lawsuit with the parents. When parents refuse to take responsibility for their children then the schools have no other way to get the situation under control. These parents need to have this child evaluated by a professional in child behavior, this was not "just a bad day". If this isn't taken care of soon, these parents will have a potentially dangerous child on their hands.

                              • 20 votes
                              #3.16 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:14 PM EDT

                              Violet, you are thinking of this as you would be with your own child. I can tell you that if my kids' school let a child go completely out of control and damage property, knock over furniture, etc., I don't know if another child or staff will be hurt as the principal was. I guess the girl was shaken at being put in a cell, but you know what? I see you saying hold her down, I see others explaining to you why that isn't allowed, but I don't see you giving a real solution for the staff WHILE a student is totally out of control?

                              Legally they can't just grab and subdue the child without facing consequences themselves, so if you don't like that fact then go get that law changed. Otherwise what did you want them to do? Really, share with us your wisdom? I have seen kids totally out of control and it is too late to reason and gently talk with them if they are like that. This girl wasn't in a bad mood, but was out of control and dangerous to herself and others. I hope teachers at schools will indeed call security/police to handle someone who is posing a threat to others, but I guess you would rather them let her harm another child or herself?

                              We aren't talking about your neighbor kid, okay? Teachers go from working with the kids to safety mode when a child goes way over limits and no other child...even this child...got hurt. I sincerely hope the child gets the help she needs and that you do a little research on this type of situation. There was a glass case she was trying to break, apparently. Did you want her to do that and send shards all over herself and others?

                              If she truly was pitching a temper tantrum she learned there are seriously consequences when you harm others or break furniture/don't stop when told to stop. I hate that for her, but really, if my child were knocking over furniture and trying to break glass, jumping on equipment, and had injured someone already, and they had tried to reason with her, the police person did too...hey, if she wouldn't listen to the police, how did you expect teachers to calm her down safely within the law. Give us concrete ideas here since you know the answers, Violet.

                              • 21 votes
                              #3.17 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:17 PM EDT

                              Violet-

                              No, a teacher does not have an ethical responsibility to put themselves in a position to lose their career, reputation and family's financial security because of a child that is out of control (for whatever reason). The fact that this teacher didn't endanger herself, her other students and her family (through the reasons listed above) doesn't mean she's a bad person who doesn't care about the child. It means she was a rational adult who weighed the consequences of her actions and came to the conclusion that the situation would be better handled by the proper channels. It may be unfortunate that the present state of our education system and society make it so that the police are the proper channels, but that's the way it is. For people who are sitting here saying "what the teacher should have done..." need to be aware that the teacher legally can't. Can't do anything, essentially. Its terrible, but true.

                              • 25 votes
                              #3.18 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:20 PM EDT

                              Violet, that is so wrong. Teachers are there to teach and that kind of outburst disrupts the entire class. The teacher cannot put their hands on a child. This is not 40 years ago. You should get with the times.

                              • 23 votes
                              #3.19 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:23 PM EDT

                              God I hope Violet does NOT have any kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                              • 24 votes
                              #3.20 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:24 PM EDT

                              Violet

                              FYI, if a normal person like a teacher places a finger on a child, these same parents will be screaming assault right behind a lawyer. I bet they are viewing their options this minute to see if they can sue. And you wonder why our educational system is going down the drain. Teachers are teachers not bodyguards or security officers.

                              • 16 votes
                              #3.21 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:33 PM EDT

                              First the video is from an older story, not this one, video and the rest of the story is here

                              http://www.13wmaz.com/news/article/178448/175/Milledgeville-Police-Handcuff-6-Year-Old-Girl

                              Violate you do this and you are going to be arrested for assault, period, and school staff don't have to put their jobs and their health at risk to HUG AN WILD ANIMAL CHILD WHO IS TRYING TO EAT A DOOR KNOB.

                              if this were a neighbor kid you would hold her down until she calmed down.

                              • 10 votes
                              #3.22 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:41 PM EDT

                              had-enough, therapy and family intervention services are but one of a laundry list of free county/city social services in most locales. Even free family planning, which I hope this woman makes use of. She needs to get this one right before she makes any more just like her.

                              • 6 votes
                              #3.23 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:41 PM EDT

                              I doubt therapy and family intervention services would have worked in that situation at that time. I know because I work at a busy county ER. We deal with drunks, addicts and people with psych issues trying to start trouble and harm. We let our armed security deal with them until its safe to do care.

                              And by watching the video of the parents..... I seriously doubt they will utilize any of the laundry list of free county/city social services. But I bet you they will be using one of the laundry list of lawyers to sue the school to get a free lottery.

                              • 8 votes
                              #3.24 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:57 PM EDT

                              I agree the police need to be called in such a situation, but I also agree the child should be treated different than an adult. I would like to see a special unit of police formed for child crimes. The officers would be midgets so as to not be too intimidating, and use fuzzy handcuffs, and a "little tykes" or "playskool" jail cell, with video games available, and a big purple "Barney" punching bag. I would enjoy a Barney punching bag myself. There would be stun guns with reduced voltage.

                              In order to get the culture ready for this type of law enforcement, start writing this type of thing into "Law And Order (Kiddie Krooks Unit). And yes, I have been called a jeenius many times, i.e. "way to go, Einstein," etc.

                              • 10 votes
                              #3.25 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

                              The teacher, principal and police are not the failed adults. The parents have failed at being adults.

                              • 11 votes
                              #3.26 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:06 PM EDT

                              LMAO @stoopid.

                              • 5 votes
                              #3.27 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

                              OMG stoopid... I'm having to wipe the tears from my eyes at that!!!! Excellent!!!

                              • 2 votes
                              #3.28 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:03 PM EDT

                              Isn't THAT the problem? That the adults allegedly caring for children all day don't actually CARE for them? When they have a problem, they hide because of rules and call the police? Sorry, you have an ethical responsibility to children and if you pathetic and can't figure out what to do without calling the cops, then quit. NORMAL PEOPLE DON'T CALL THE POLICE ON LITTLE KIDS!!! Seriously, if this were a neighbor kid you would hold her down until she calmed down. That is what normal people do.

                              Despite the vitriolic attacks on what you said you are 100% correct. Until the age of Teabags, the War on Women and Mitt Romney it wasn't normal to call the police on a child. I guess it's the sign of our cynical times. Your critics make the point that physically restraining the child may result in a lawsuit but that is nothing but an acknowledgement of our broken social, legal and political system and says nothing about the career, responsibility and profession of teaching. Of course by calling the police those teachers and administrators are admitting they failed in their jobs. I think the problem is that as a society we've reduced teachers to be daycare workers and babysitters instead of respecting them as professionals with an important social responsibility to teach our next generation. They need to be better paid, better respected and given more discretion (without being threatened with law suits) to help behaviorally disturbed kids. If you think the answer is imprisonment then get used to living in a police state. Be careful what you wish for.

                              It's a bit confusing but if the child was 12 years old issues do get more cloudy but the fact remains that we as a society have lost when we resort to criminal justice to control young school kids. I think this should be a wake-up call that the education system is in big trouble - but my bet is it will just convince more cynical Republicans that the answer is to shut down public schools and shift the money towards rich private schools. It's pretty sad to live in a society that blames children for the ills of society.

                                #3.29 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:14 PM EDT
                                mePhDweeDeleted

                                Wow, what a bunch of merciless bastards post in here.

                                • 1 vote
                                #3.31 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:30 PM EDT

                                How much money would it be to compensate this little girl for the trauma (and her family) upon that devastating experience?

                                Basics : in the worst case escenario they should call the para medics, most commonly is low blood sugar(HYPOGLYCEMIA), in a little girl it could be HYPERTHYROIDISM, if was drugs ...it is paramedics and the hospital!

                                The Principal and the Teachers (school nurse, social worker ?) know this girl and they must have an idea of what was going on if not there are the paramedics!

                                SHAME to the policemans! from every angle. God forgive them , they have children too....except for the only working Brain that gave her a coke! Coca Cola look there is a good commercial!

                                ....those things should never happen in our Country!

                                • 1 vote
                                #3.32 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:31 PM EDT

                                When I posted my earlier comment, I did NOT see the picture of the girl in question. Had I seen it, I would not posted it.

                                It was a stupid comment made in haste, and I apologize.

                                • 1 vote
                                #3.33 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:38 PM EDT

                                If a six-year-old is doing this much damage, don't just suspend her, have her professionally evaluated. Any kindergarten-aged child biting doorknobs and injuring adults either has a behavioral issue that requires professional intervention, or a sensory or psychological handicap. The parents are likely in denial, and I see people of all classes, races, backgrounds, etc. do the same thing and defend the child. My child started exhibiting similar issues, and was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome. The violence has stopped since he started therapy and wraparound care. This kid needs help, and if someone doesn't intervene now, she's in a load of trouble later on.

                                • 3 votes
                                #3.34 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

                                Garantee that 99.9 percent of the juveniles that are taken out of schools in handcuffs are black because if you check out parents both have arrest records and had the kids to increase welfare check but god forbid now there looking for a lawsuit just like the black girl on my school bus said as long as white people keep making it we will keep taking it and she wasnt white and nobody is going to do nothing for her so in a few years she will be joining Travon Martin (POP POP )

                                • 1 vote
                                #3.35 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:12 PM EDT
                                Reply

                                There is A LOT more to this story than is being reported. "Moody"? Don't buy it.

                                • 13 votes
                                Reply#4 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

                                I agree. I'd bet this is not the first sign of trouble they've had with the little girl. Extreme outbursts like this usually build up over time - the child gets away with a small tantrum and learns it's permissible to not control their emotions, so the next tantrum gets a little bigger and a little bigger because the behavior is not properly addressed. It's sad that more wasn't done by both the parents and the school to prevent her behavior from getting this out of control. While the story doesn't say what was done, whatever steps they took, if any, were obviously not enough, and now this little girl and everyone else involved are suffering for it.

                                • 4 votes
                                #4.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:59 PM EDT

                                I say make the child wear a huge bow on her head and make her carry around a huge lollipop and wear a white lace dress. That'll teach her. And if she throws a tantrum dressed like that, it will look hilarious.

                                • 5 votes
                                #4.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:04 PM EDT
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                                So the bigger issue is what is wrong with the child? Psychological problems? Medical issues? We cannot just assume "bratty out-of-control-child" at age 6.

                                What is the school's plan for dealing with psychological emergencies or medical emergencies? If the parents were unreachable, what about the alternate contact for the child? What about EMS/Paramedics? What if it was a teacher or visiting parent? Still handcuff them and haul them off to jail?

                                Just asking.

                                • 8 votes
                                Reply#5 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:43 AM EDT

                                exactly, there's something wrong with the child that the school or district psychologist should help determine. And the police could've been called to come to the school to help the situation, but hauling a 6 yr old off to jail is ridiculous.

                                • 5 votes
                                #5.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:48 AM EDT

                                Y'all need to go read the rest of the the story and watch the video of the kid and her "family", then come back and see if you still think it is a school problem or a family problem. The kid has learned one valuable lesson from mom and dad, play the victim always.

                                http://www.13wmaz.com/news/article/178448/175/Milledgeville-Police-Handcuff-6-Year-Old-Girl

                                • 10 votes
                                #5.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:57 AM EDT

                                If I was a school official, I absolutely do not want that 6 yr old brat stay in the school grounds after this stunt. Hauling the kid to jail is a wise decision. Parents could not be reached after multiple phone calls. If the parents picked up and came over right away, police would not have to be called. Are you going to pay for the police officer to stay in school waiting time and valuable resources until the parents show up?

                                Don't need to be a Enstein to figure out what is wrong with the kid. She is a brat with temper tantrums that never been punished for.

                                • 6 votes
                                #5.3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

                                Not to fret, taxpayers will now shell out for home tutoring for the little monster and her family. Maybe that was the parents plan. Talk to any public school administrator and they'll tell you of the con game some parents run in order to get their kid(s) free educational special services, even going so far as to filing false claims of learning disabilities. It's a whole new world out there, people, and some have learned to run the game better than others.

                                • 3 votes
                                #5.4 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

                                The fact that the police were called might get the ball rolling for this girl to get the intensive help she needs. I hope someone forces the parents to get treatment for her. Violet, yes you DO call the police in a case like that. You call the police on your OWN bipolar child if that's the only way you can stop something like this and get them to the mental health hospital. Handcuffing the child is humiliating, but keeps them safe from harming themselves or others. These parents better get used to her being hauled to jail in handcuffs if they don't get her the help she needs, which probably includes mood stabilizers. Sick or not, the girl is breaking the law. I know of a 5 year old schizophrenic who tried to stab his baby sister to death before the mother finally decided he needed hospitalized and diagnosed. Setting their house on fire and other violence and bizarre behavior didn't phase the parents. Now he's on meds and doing much better.

                                • 7 votes
                                #5.5 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

                                Even if they were able to reach her mother, parents usually aren't onsite - it takes a few minutes to leave work, drive to school, park, and get inside. It's a cop-out that they called the police. They had no plan to deal with such emergencies, even if the mother was reachable.

                                • 1 vote
                                #5.6 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

                                Let Zimmerman handle her.........

                                  #5.7 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:29 PM EDT

                                  @Nikkinala

                                  ...Cop-out? I see what you did there...

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #5.8 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:00 PM EDT
                                  mePhDweeDeleted

                                  The student will have rights. She will be given a hearing. She will also be given more and more chances. What I have seen work in my school district is to have someone from the school get a restraining order. It is almost impossible to get kids like this out of school. By the way, what about the other 20 something kids in the classroom. Did they get their education that day? No, because several adults were dealing with behavior that would get most people charged with assult and thrown in jail. Just because she is a child doesn't mean she can't cause serious injuries to others. What if it was your child injured by this monster at school?

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #5.10 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:16 PM EDT
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                                  Im no doctor but I believe there may have been an underlying problem with this sort of extreme behavior coming for a child this young. I have seen some hummers of tantrums from kids before, but nothing like the dynamo of chaos this report made it seem like it was. I do believe they handled this situation poorly. I believe that handcuffs and a holding cell were a little too much. In our local schools we have empty padded rooms in the special education department for student having similar tantrums and I think that would have suited this situation best if it was available.

                                  • 9 votes
                                  Reply#6 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:44 AM EDT

                                  This child is being sexually abused by someone. I recognize her behavior, as I was the same way when I was in elementary school, on up to 6th grade. Because my abuser had threatened me with killing my family and my dog, I never said anything to anyone til I was 23 years old...

                                  In the 7th grade my family moved away from the abuser(a neighbor), and the "tantrums" stopped because I was out of the situation...I still never told anyone...not counselors, teachers, nor my mom or anyone else in my family. I blocked it until at 23 I finally told my husband about what happened to me...

                                  I sincerely hope that SOMEONE will rescue this child and any siblings she may have from an obviously abusive situation.

                                  Until she is away from the abuser, these incidents will continue.

                                  Blessed Be to this little child.

                                  And just so you know, the handcuffing and locking her up in jail will only reinforce the threats that her abuser makes to her...i.e., "they'll blame you for being a bad girl"..."it's your fault, and they will take you to jail"...etc etc....So, way to go bigoted racist school system..........

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #6.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:04 PM EDT

                                  Double post...

                                    #6.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:08 PM EDT

                                    I've never seen a public school with a padded room for kids to have tantrums. Can't expect every school to have this nor do I know if that would actually be legal to have.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #6.3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:08 PM EDT

                                    Often times, children who are being abused in some way (sexually, mentally, physically) act out in crazy ways just as a means to gain control in their life. I would suggest to police there to look into possible abuse coming from home. Poor girl. She sounds like she really needs help. Being a monster is not the answer.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #6.4 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:10 PM EDT

                                    Hands Toit, My webpage was having issues, so I didnt know if I posted or not. :/ I understand that there may not be the same resource available and I believe there may be more to this that we arent hearing. Its obvious her parents dont know about this mental problem or they choose to ignore it as they should NEVER have said "this was just a bad day." Ive seen children with bad days and it was nothing compared to how this story is being presented. I definitely shook my head at their response. I do agree with the other that there may have been a lawsuit if the teacher or staff had restrained the child, but I truly think the court would have overturned it given the horrible circumstance they were in. Still I believe that the handcuffs and holding cell was too much. I believe they should have taken her to a different room away from others (the gym may have worked as it is a large space with little in it or a different room with few things in it) and waited for her parents to come get her. Then I believe they should have referred her to a psychiatrist or school counselor. That being siad, they were in a difficult position with a student I think they may not have been trained for. I wonder it they even have a special education area as I find it strangeg no special education teachers were reported to have steppe din. Those teacher are definitely trained on what to do with large tantrums. If this was the case with our special education department, police would have to be called every other week.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #6.5 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:24 PM EDT

                                    First and foremost, our society has taken us so WAY out of wack with saying that whooping or punishments shouldn't be allowed anymore, so our kids are now growing up thinking that no matter what they do, there are no real consequences..look at the outburst of kids who are walking in schools going on shooting sprees...kids with tantrums! There is something called boundaries and children need to be taught those boundaries. Maybe taking that little girl in handcuffs was a little overboard due to her age, but if she was shaken up, that's what she needed. Her mom should've been the one handcuffed. It's our responsibility as parents to raise our kids to respect others and to help them understand what's acceptable behavior and what isnt. PERIOD. Just because a 6 yr old is out of line and has a behavior problem DOESNT mean she needs counseling or meds. So many people automatically want to give meds so they dont have to deal with the actual issue. Sure there are some that may need help, but meds aren't always the answer. In this case,Im sure an old fashion ass whoopin for EVERY single time she acted like that would make her think twice. Obviously everyone has allowed her to continue this behavior so she continues to do it until someone gives her what she wants. When we were growing up, if we did something wrong, not only would our neighbor whoop us, but so would our parents. Now a days, kids have the nerve to say they will call children services. Lol... I agree with the officers on this one.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #6.6 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

                                    Rebecca, I see what you are saying and agree that abuse is possible, but really it isn't wise to assume things we don't know. I am sorry if you were abused or someone you love was, but that doesn't mean every single child who acts out has been abused. Believe me, I do understand what you mean, but putting this explanation on this case with no further evidence doesn't make sense. She may have a disorder or illness causing the behavior, and I would bet after seeing that video of the parents excusing her behavior and letting her say that she did nothing wrong...well, unless it comes out that the whole staff and all the police involved were framing her I would say parenting plays a part in this as well. We don't know why and assuming it doesn't make sense...sexual abuse is a serious charge.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #6.7 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

                                    Im no doctor but I believe there may have been an underlying problem with this sort of extreme behavior coming for a child this young.

                                    That's not what you said when you had me undress for my "physical." I feel so violated.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #6.8 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

                                    Chey, if you aren't allowed to restrain her physically, how did you expect them to lead her to a safe place where she could just rage and not hurt someone? I think you have an idea of teachers as something they aren't. They aren't trained in self-defense (although that would be a great idea after a few of the kids I taught...one had a gun at school even) and that girl wasn't a toddler to pick up and carry to a lovely safe place. There is no indication she was in a facility equipped for "large temper tantrums", and I am still not sure what you wanted them to do in that moment? Bend down and get punched in the nose? Take her arms so she yanks away and breaks an arm? Stand and chat quietly while she breaks glass and destroys the room? Let her run through the halls to do who knows what?

                                    If you have been around a child who really is out of control you know gentle reasoning and the usual techniques don't work in that moment. The police are trained to restrain people....including kids...and that is their job in this type of situation when nothing else works.

                                    Rebecca, I meant to say in my previous post that I do agree that there is some kind of abuse going on...she isn't getting the help she needs at the very least...but to say it is sexual abuse is not really a certainty here. Again, I am sorry that happened to you and it should never happen to anyone.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #6.9 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:11 PM EDT

                                    Madaline, this isn't "out of line" behavior. It's CRAZY behavior that you can't beat, ground, shame or whatever out of the kid. In fact all the things that work on normal kids won't faize a bipolar child. Well, actually it will make things worse if they aren't reasonably stabilized. A whooping (not beating) here or there might normally help, but you could beat a kid like this all day long and it would only fuel the rage. The parents say she's normal and therein lies half the problem. The kid is doomed if the parents don't get it that she's not well and no authorities step in to change that. And no, this behavior does not mean a kid necessarily has been sexually abused. At that age, victims are too afraid to act out that much. Most likely there is a brain glitch.

                                      #6.10 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

                                      No, the biggest issue is how to stop the child from being a danger to herself and others. School authorities are not allowed to physically restrain the child in today's
                                      sue" climate. There is little choice but to call the police.

                                      • 5 votes
                                      #6.11 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:19 PM EDT
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                                      Better now than later...but..where were the parents/guardians that no one could come get her first?

                                      Also...if they had not take her in..the report states she tried to get out of the office..if she had..and then something bad happened to her, we would all be asking "couldn't they restrain a 6 yr old?"

                                      • 10 votes
                                      Reply#7 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:46 AM EDT

                                      Can't restrain her. There are laws behind that. It's called false imprisonment.

                                      And a huge list of injuries if you do it wrong. Strangulation, risk of death from choking and vomiting if they cant clear airway, hyperthermia, hypothermia, nerve damage, etc...

                                      They are teachers not security officers or body guards.

                                      • 5 votes
                                      #7.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

                                      Even in this day of cell phones, some times you're out of a service area. I know I have trouble getting a signal in a few stores in the area. When I'm at the doctor's office, they ask that cell phones be shut off. They may not have been up to anything suspicious; sometimes you just can't be reached right away.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #7.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:10 PM EDT

                                      They really should look into why the mother could not be contacted. There is a kid on my block who, once he leaves for school, his mom gets high on drugs and cannot be bothered even for emergencies. Their porch caught on fire one morning while she was there and we, her neighbors, called the fire department before she realized what was happening. Then, once they got her out of the house, she wobbled in her dirty house coat on the sidewalk while they put the fire out and then fell asleep (passed out) on the lawn.

                                      It was later determined her boy started the fire.

                                        #7.3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:15 PM EDT
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                                        Bring back spanking, time outs are the real joke. I blame the liberal parenting of today. Nothing says you better behave than a smack on the butt!

                                        • 23 votes
                                        Reply#8 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:46 AM EDT

                                        Kevin you are one horrible person. Spanking is never a solution to raising a child. This little girl obviously has a emotional problem, and hitting a child will never help. I hope you have no children, because if you do, God help them.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #8.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:55 PM EDT

                                        Therapy cost money. A big firm hand across the butt or the back of the head is free.

                                        Kids with behavioral problems are nothing new except new fancy medical terms. A big swift kick in the butt worked through the centuries until lawyers came around. Just saying.

                                        • 4 votes
                                        #8.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:03 PM EDT

                                        Spanking is never a solution to raising a child.

                                        Ya and millions of people would gladly disagree with that statement, a lot of us "learned" at a young age that this type of behavior would not be tolerated in any way shape or form. We went on to "teach" our children the same lessons, and once they "learned" those lessons we had no problems like this ever.

                                        What lesson it that you ask, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO BEND A KID OVER TO STRAIGHTEN THEM OUT.

                                        • 10 votes
                                        #8.3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:19 PM EDT

                                        Kevin, you really are blaming liberals? That's bull@!$%# and you know it. It's these parents who want to be friends instead of parents. No party affliation necessary. Yes, spanking is needed, not beatings. I didn't get whippings but I was on my knees alot and it hurt, but none of my sisters or brother turned out wrong from whippings.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #8.4 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:43 PM EDT

                                        History and recent events show us that handcuffing & putting little black kids in jail is pre-training for what's to come later on in life!

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #8.5 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:19 AM EDT
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                                        This is the most ignorant thing that I have heard yet.

                                        • 5 votes
                                        Reply#9 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:46 AM EDT

                                        agree 100%

                                        • 3 votes
                                        #9.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:49 AM EDT
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                                        Comment author avatarAimee Cecile GleasonExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                        You have GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!! I can tell you right now my kid ever touched by anyone other than me or his father, then you will be placing handcuffs on me.

                                        For one the little girl was throwing a fit for a reason.. Being locked in room with an adult! a CHILD and you are not their parent of COURSE they are going to go crazy the police and the parents need to look into the adults who were handling the child because no a days they were more than likely doing some kind of inaproptiate act to her. God damn Pervs seriously a child whos not even use to school or their rules or officials you are all wrong and acted wrong you need to be placed in cuffs and feel the terror this child felt. You are cruel people who should be fired.

                                        • 5 votes
                                        Reply#10 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:48 AM EDT

                                        Nice post, Aimee. Why, of course the teachers, administration and police are all wrong. And you KNOW this from what little you have heard of the situation. Do you think that - just maybe - this child has serious behavioral issues that the school has been dealing with all year? That maybe this was the last straw? That her parents - like you - want to blame everyone except the 'poor dear child'?

                                        Please, try to reserve judgement against those charged with the education and safety of the entire school until you have some actual facts and background on the issue.

                                        • 18 votes
                                        #10.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:02 PM EDT

                                        She was kicked out of school for the rest of the year, you can bet that this wasn't the first time, and based on what she was doing when police arrived I'm not one bit surprised or bothered by her being hand cuffed.

                                        Biting the office door knob, trying to break glass, ya kid has problems and those problems are her parents not being parents and teaching her some manners, but they sure taught her how to play the victim well.

                                        • 18 votes
                                        #10.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:02 PM EDT

                                        My goodness!!!! The child was out of control. You will complain if someone tries to restrain her in the school. You will complain if someone tries to restrain her at the police station. Perhaps if you had some control over her at home, you wouldn't need to complain!

                                        • 14 votes
                                        #10.3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:07 PM EDT

                                        Is this post real?

                                        • 5 votes
                                        #10.4 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:08 PM EDT

                                        Aimee, what if this child, during her temper tandrum, hurt one of your kids because the police were not there to defuse the situation. You're ok with that right? Wait, you would be calling your lawyer to sue.

                                        • 8 votes
                                        #10.5 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

                                        So you wanted them to do what? Be concrete now. You have a child totally out of control, the principal was already injured, no one able to calm her, can't put hands on her, she is damaging property and others, trying to break glass....you ever been around a child who is either having some sort of episode and can't be controlled by reasoning? So you assume because she threw some kind of fit or had an episode the staff are perverts? Kind of a far stretch there, and it's interesting the parents didn't apologize for her behavior, admit the girl has issues, or in any way take responsibility.

                                        Look, I am on the child's side here. If someone is doing something wrong to her of course it should be stopped. She still can't do these things, though, and she needs help and some evaluation to see what the cause is. In the moment, however, she had to be made safe and everyone safe. if only handcuffs did it then perhaps she will get help and that beats her being cut up by broken class or her turning something over on another child. Whatever the cause, it wasn't okay and there are consequences to that type of behavior.

                                        • 4 votes
                                        #10.6 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:31 PM EDT
                                        Comment author avatarNakeisha Simmonsvia Facebook

                                        I'm sorry but the blame is solely on the parents. She wasn't traumatized by being locked in a room with adults. What else were they supposed to do when she's throwing furniture and what not? Leave her in the class with the rest of the children? Seriously? Give me a break. As a mother, I'm glad they reacted the way they did. Especially since there was other children safety involved. She was acting like a bat out of h*ll. Had the parent answered the god d*mn phone when they were called, and took control of the matter, the police wouldn't have had to. I'm sick and tired of parents blaming everyone else but themselves.

                                        • 6 votes
                                        #10.7 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

                                        @ Aimee - If you feel this way, then maybe you need to take responsibility for teaching your child(ren) at home. Don't let them out of the house, to make sure no one ever touches them. But especially so that your child(ren) don't harm other people's children. Because if you teach your child(ren) to be victims, they will really be brats, uncontrollable by words, with no self-control, and with an attitude that they can do anything they please because "my mommy said no one can ever discipline me but her."

                                        I feel sorry for this generation when they have to grow up to understand that they have to work and follow directions and do things they don't want to do when they get to college and/or a real job. Mommy can't go to college and make that nasty professor take back the failing grade when "Angel" didn't do her homework and failed three tests. Mommy can't go to the job and make the nasty bossman give back the job "Angel" lost after missing work two days a week and then refusing to clean the restroom.

                                        Wow!

                                        • 6 votes
                                        #10.8 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

                                        I have yet to read in this post regarding the cops' position in handcuffing this little girl. My dad was a career cop, 25 years. Police have to look out for themselves, just like you and I. If there's a chance they could've been hurt by this little girls behavior, then they are completely justified in handcuffing, makes no difference that she was 6. If she's out of control, then they do whatever they have to, to minimize their own risk. I'm glad she was handcuffed, and it's good to read stories like this. Too few and far between.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #10.9 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:11 PM EDT

                                        Aimee Cecile Gleason

                                        For one the little girl was throwing a fit for a reason.. Being locked in room with an adult!

                                        For one, Aimee, so you saying the little girl has a right to throw a fit JUST because she is in a room full of kids her age and a adult teacher? Don't know what goes on in your world but here...... that is where kids learn education. One adult teaching a classroom full of kids is a time tested model used by rest of the world.

                                        Or you trying to say that the kid was locked up in jail with adult immates for no reason then she started to throw a fit? Again you are not clear in your argument. And I doubt the kid will be locked up with criminals. More likely in a isolation room by herself with cameras pointed at her. If you are lazy to read the article, just read the title. It clearly explains why she went to jail.

                                        • 7 votes
                                        #10.10 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:14 PM EDT

                                        You know, Aimee, right now, I just want to smack your kid. Bet s/he's a brat.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #10.11 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:22 PM EDT

                                        Aimee-I am a parent of just such a child as the little girl in this story. He started showing violent behaviour when he was 4 years old and progessively got worse the older he got. After being suspended from school several times by the second grade, having at least a half dozen run-ins with the police and a psych hold at the children's hospital, we finally were able to have him placed in a special school for kids like him, complete with "time-out rooms" aka lil rubber rooms for when the kids get too out of control,therapists and an on-site psychiatrist, plus the teachers and staff at the school were all trained in restraining out of control kids. That school was fantastic, but we had to move cross country, and the upheaval started my son's out of control behaviours again. Within the past year, he has been arrested once for battery on a police officer, has been charged with battery on ME, destruction of property, has been HANDCUFFED and TAKEN TO JAIL and I agree with everything!! He also has been in 2 psychiatric facilities 6 different times, has been diagnosed with Bipolar, ADHD, Oppositional Defiant Disorder, not to mention the could be a possibility of schizophrenic disorders, is on several medications to control his mental illness and behaviour issues and is now living in a "learning home" to help him learn to control his anger and help me to be a better parent. If the child in the article had a parent like me, she would be in the same place as my son is now. The school was absolutely correct in calling the police, she was violent and out of control, and had she be a bit older she would be sitting in juvenile hall, and her parents need to accept the fact that some "tantrums" are more than just "she's having a bad day"! I think that that child needs to be evaluated for psychiatric and/or emotional disorders, but the majority of parents nowadays cannot accept the fact that their child may have such problems, "not my kid" "she's just having a bad day" blah blah blah! I've had my child arrested, handcuffed, taken down to the ground by the police, and I have absolutely no problem with it! Call me a bad parent, I call it tough love. God forbid your child should EVER attack you or someone else. My son has hit, kicked, bit, spit, called me every name in the book, and I cannot take it any longer. I admit, I don't know everything about being a parent, NO ONE DOES but I have learned that I cannot do it alone and the help we have been recieving from the police, therapists, his school, have been doing wonders. BTW I have 2 other children who are complete polar opposites of their brother and show no signs of mental, emotional or behavioural issues.

                                          #10.12 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:26 PM EDT

                                          Amiee you apparently did not properly read the article. The child threw a fit for no apparent reason other then she wanted to... Second the parents were making excuses for her horrible behavior. Third Maybe you need to be visited by social services and made to take a parenting class or 2. Let me guess you are one of thoes parents that believe that your kid can do anything they want to whom they want, and not face any consequences at all.. I'm sure you are going to be wondering where you went wrong when in 10 or so years you are having to talk to your kids from the other side of the glass from a max security prison.

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #10.13 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:07 PM EDT
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                                          Hopefully,this taught the child a lesson. That the rest of the world will not put up with her behavior. If she has behavior issues then her parents are responsible for getting her the help she needs before she ends up in real trouble.

                                          • 12 votes
                                          Reply#11 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:48 AM EDT

                                          The child is out of control because the parents allow it at home. I think what the officer did was right. Good grief she was biting a door knob and jumping up and down on a paper shredder. She needs to have a her butt spanked and she should be suspended. We have turned into a society where we allow these children to think that they are entitled to act this way when they don't get their own way and it is time to stop it.

                                          • 15 votes
                                          Reply#12 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:49 AM EDT

                                          Biting the door knob, no I think she was way way pasted damaged at home, she also learned at home to play the victim and blame everyone else for her PROBLEMS, judging by her family I'm not one bit surprised.

                                          • 11 votes
                                          Reply#13 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:49 AM EDT

                                          First it is Michigan that hand cuffs an autistic little boy now and kindergartner ? come on lets get real. what is this world coming to ? and they say parents abuse there kids ? what about teachers and cops? that's abuse ! putting those cuffs on the little kids and so tightly !
                                          maybe some of these cops n teachers need to have an open child protective service case against them !!! that child would have eventually calmed down all she needed was a hug restraint until she calmed down so the principal could talk to her..

                                          • 3 votes
                                          Reply#14 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:49 AM EDT

                                          all she needed was a hug restraint

                                          Ya and the next thing you would have had is a law suit for physical abuse against school staff.

                                          cops n teachers need to have an open child protective service case against them

                                          NO HER PARENTS NEED TO BE LOOKED AT, for allowing their child to act like an animal, then wondering why others don't put up with it.


                                          • 15 votes
                                          #14.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:07 PM EDT

                                          Hardly. Anyone that goes to college to learn how to physically restrain children and to talk them into handing over their weapons are not called teachers ... they are policemen. And you wonder why are children aren't learning.

                                          • 9 votes
                                          #14.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:10 PM EDT

                                          Well, dang it all. I meant "our" children ... not "are." I completely lose all educational sense when I enter into these forums!

                                          • 3 votes
                                          #14.3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:15 PM EDT

                                          Wait to catch that fumble NIE - you know the nazi grammer people will be showing up anytime - lol

                                            #14.4 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:32 PM EDT

                                            Miss Stanley ... wrong people are having children. Birth control seems too complicated for some.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #14.5 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

                                            And taxpayers will be paying for that assault lawsuit. Not surprised at that type of family. Leeching off the social system and trying to get a quick buck. Kudos for callling in the cop, handcuffingt and hauling her to jail. I have a feeling this incident will not be the first and only experience she will ever have. I doubt she will learn from this.

                                            • 4 votes
                                            #14.6 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

                                            Comment # 15 deleted, political derail.

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #14.7 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:23 PM EDT

                                            Aww come on Sally... Political Derail... Let us have our fun ;-)

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #14.8 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:05 PM EDT

                                            Oh god, you should see the posts on the story about the norwegian mass murderer... nothing BUT politics on there. Sally, do you have any power over there?

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #14.9 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:11 PM EDT

                                            They had to cuff the little darling because they're not allowed to spank her butt and it doesn't seem like the parents are doing much of it themselves.

                                            • 5 votes
                                            #14.10 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:32 PM EDT

                                            All I can say is WOW!!! I can't believe how many people are defending the actions of this little girl. I have a son and if he ever did half of the stuff that she did, I would hope someone had enough balls to put him in his place. If the girl has any mental issues (which I didn't read about any, but that still doesnt mean they cant be there) then maybe being restrained was the best thing. Im not saying people with mental problems need to be restrained either. What if she hurt herself? Then everyone would be saying how something should have been done so she couldnt. I guess all Im saying is good job to the school staff and the police for having a set!!!

                                            • 4 votes
                                            #14.11 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:25 PM EDT
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                                            I am a retired Teacher , she might be Bipolar they have strange behavior. The parents should have told the school of the child's problems with behavior , The Police is a little extreme for a 6 year old. The parents were aware that the child had behavior problems perhaps she needed her meds.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            Reply#16 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:50 AM EDT

                                            For a retired teacher, your grammar and punctuation are pretty poor! Just sayin'...

                                            • 12 votes
                                            #16.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:07 PM EDT

                                            Awesome call Howie. Maybe he meant retired janitor.

                                            • 4 votes
                                            #16.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:22 PM EDT

                                            Good one. Kids have behavioral problems? Drug them up.

                                            What can the school do if the parents cannot be reached after multiple attempts and never told the school about any medical issues? You honestly believe you can make a 6yr old kid who is throwing furnitures, ripping stuff off walls, biting door knobs and trying to break glass to take her meds? I seriously doubt it since I deal with adults like her everyday at ER.

                                            Let me lay out my chair with popcorn and see. Prove me wrong.

                                            • 5 votes
                                            #16.3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:24 PM EDT

                                            Or perhaps the parents are too lazy to even take the child to a doctor to be diagnosed. Like they said,"she's just moody" in their eyes. This is the product of uneducated people having children. Anyone with common sense can see this child has a problem that needs to be diagnosed by a professional. Just sad....

                                            • 5 votes
                                            #16.4 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

                                            I agree there could be some kind of chemical imbalance or other medical reason. This could very well be the first time she had acted out to this degree so I'm not judging the parents so quickly on warning the school and what not. Another bit that caught my eye in the article...

                                            Swicord, the police chief, denied the child was held in a holding cell, with the Associated Press reporting that he said she was held in the department's squad room and given a Coke to try to calm her down.

                                            I mean REALLY, what were they all out of Meth? Giving a 6 year old a can of Coke?!?! Makes me wonder if she was given caffeine and sugar right before the outburst as well.

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #16.5 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:51 PM EDT
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                                            If it truly was excessive aggression, what other choices do schools have? Having been a school board member, you're dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. If the child or other children had gotten hurt, parents may have blamed or sued the school but in this case felt it was unnecessary to involve law enforcement.

                                            MOST children don't strike out and have aggressive behaviors for merely a "moody day". Likely there is something underlying going on or simply an undisciplined child.

                                            • 12 votes
                                            Reply#17 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:50 AM EDT

                                            Pamela, As a teacher, we have had students who acted similiar to this. We brought in counselors only to be told by the mom that she wanted her child to be able to "express himself". It took 1 and 1/2 years to get this child out of our school. Many of the families in first grade pulled their children out because their kids were frightened to come to school and having nightmares. We always protect the "wrong doer" since they have the majoritity of the rights.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #17.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:56 PM EDT
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                                            Comment author avatarJoseph Mainovia Facebook

                                            Sounds like these parents need to be doing a better job. That's for sure.

                                            • 10 votes
                                            Reply#18 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:51 AM EDT

                                            Ha now this child will grow up to learn to rely on the justice system to take care of everything its sad that people rely on occupations when your better left to rely on instinct and take care of her as if she were your own to get down to her level and understand IS NOT HARD just harder than handcuffs.

                                            • 1 vote
                                            Reply#19 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:51 AM EDT

                                            Aimee is going to raise a child, as an adult, will throw poop on a cop car and then act all surprised when they get maced while their friends tape it all on their iPhones paid for by their parents.

                                            • 14 votes
                                            #19.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 PM EDT

                                            You didn't make a lot of sense in your post here. This child needs some evaluation to see why she is behaving this way, first off. As far as her relying on the justice system, that makes no sense. You can't take care of one out of control child as if she were your own when she isn't! Teachers have classes full of kids they must protect, material to teach, and laws they must follow. You want to get down and reason with your own child as she hits you or breaks glass please feel free, but if my child acted that way and they tried 6 times to reach me I want them to act like teachers and stop her from hurting herself or anyone else. I am my kids' parent and can make sure they get help when needed, but if I am not present and my child is hurting herself or others and damaging property s/he is out of control.

                                            Moody? I have two moody kids, and if they were so "moody" one day they did as this child allegedly did they would be at the doctor's getting a physical the same day. If there wasn't some serious medical or psychological reason going on, I also would be telling them that if they did this type of thing the consequences would be serious. I wouldn't be saying they were moody and dismissing it...geez.

                                            If this child were a bit bigger who knows what might have happened? I hope she was shaken a bit by what happened since it seems she wasn't abused when she was arrested with the info we have now, but since she is saying they did that and she wasn't doing anything to cause it....apparently not.

                                            My child had a note sent home that she had gone into the bathroom and locked all the stall doors but one and hadn't thought about people trying to use the bathroom and being unable. She got in trouble at school and she had consequences at home...no spanking, but I would say she will never do that again. I didn't blame it on the teacher and she didn't either...she did something and learned why not to do it again...not just to avoid punishment, but what could happen to others. I don't see that here...if my child knocked over a shelf and hurt someone's leg she would be doing chores or some other consequence for that person and she would be apologizing to all concerned. This girl wasn't just moody, and dismissing it is NOT helping her get well or learn not to do it in the future.

                                            • 4 votes
                                            #19.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:47 PM EDT

                                            I think it's completely amazing how many of you people agree that the child acted inappropriately but very few put the blame where it belongs.......... ON THE PARENTS!! Attention deficit disorder didn't happen, Mom made sure of that. What is wrong here? Deniability........ Daddy's little girl syndrome. Really? I'm not much of a religious person..... but firmly believe that old saying... Spare the rod, Spoil the Child. Discipline comes in many forms, and if this would have been my child, handcuffs and a holding cell would have been a vacation. My children grew up with respect and dignity and plenty of love, but knew the consequences if they stepped out of line. I didn't spare the rod and didn't have to use it often either because they knew I would use it if I had too. Pain is the greatest Teacher..... and Yes, there is a difference between Abuse and discipline. Teaching a child a lesson and beating them out of anger is completely different from each other. But this child (and Parents) need to get some help...... I agree. No more "Time-Outs" (because Charles Manson was just having a bad day too). That was some "time-out" he got. This society has gotten soft and deniability is right up there with Gas Prices....... and no one knows why our kids are destroying their lives. Wake Up Call anyone?

                                            • 4 votes
                                            #19.3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

                                            Wake up for who? I bet most of the poster's kids on this board are doing fine. Can't punish everyone just because these unique parents failed at parenting her daughter. And I guess you missed alot of the posts on here because many are blaming the parents.

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #19.4 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:57 PM EDT

                                            This child needs psych evaluation. The good news is that she can be homeschooled for FREE. There is help for her and her family. Sadly, there are a LOT of untreated kids with the same issues, or worse personality disorders. It was shameful for her to be handcuffed. But, in light of how Black people are so often disregarded as HUMAN BEINGS in this culture, and seen as a threat to white people, it is not at all surprising. My prayer for this child is that she get the help she needs in a supportive and loving way. That her Mother gets the help she desperately needs in coming out of denial that her child has mental health issues. This is often a shameful thing in the Af. American community, but those attitudes are changing for the better.

                                            It is a good thing she isn't coming back to that school, hopefully she will be able to be in an education environment that will encourage her to thrive and will meet her needs in a positive way.

                                            We must pray, because what seems impossible with man is Possible with GOD!

                                            The Mother ought to seek legal counsel and press charges against the police department and seek restitution. This was not handled correctly.

                                              #19.5 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

                                              The parents are the blame. When my child misbehaves at school I take responsebilty because I have taught her basic lessons on behavior. The school teachers and police have responsibilty to protect the other children and adults from harm and property damage. Make the parents pay for the damage their child did and have their child writr an apology letter to her classmates for her misbehavior.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #19.6 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:39 PM EDT

                                              I agree with you. The parents are to blame in this case and this child's behavior should not be reinforced positively in any way.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #19.7 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:06 PM EDT

                                              @MamaCharlo

                                              Not trying to insult you or "god" in anyway but the only people that need to step in and help this girl are her parents by teaching her some self control. God can't do that. And I say the school and the cops did the right thing. She did something bad and got in trouble for it. If she didn't do this then we wouldn't be here. Most of us here don't have lives. (Haha joke joke)

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #19.8 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:55 PM EDT

                                              While the responsibility of raising a well-behaved child belongs with the parents, correcting bad behavior patterns takes a combined effort from the parents and the school. Most kids spend significantly more time at school on weekdays than they do with their parents and it's unrealistic to think that schools should be in no way expected to deal with it appropriately. It's also unrealistic to believe that parents are constantly made aware of how their children are behaving in school (in my experience, they're not). Not making any judgments on the school's action; the article doesn't say what efforts they've taken in the past. Only pointing out that tantrums like this don't just happen, the behavior builds up over time as the child comes to believe they can get away with it in certain settings.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #19.9 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:16 PM EDT
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                                              In my day I would not have been able to sit down for week after pulling a stunt like this

                                              • 29 votes
                                              Reply#20 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:52 AM EDT

                                              Steve-You are so right about that. I knew that if I got in trouble at school I was going to get it at home! I had respect for others. I had issues at home, (big issues) but I did not dare act like this. What is sad is that a lot of people today blame everyone else for their problems and now they are teaching their children how to do the same thing!! So Sad!!

                                              • 7 votes
                                              #20.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:23 PM EDT

                                              I think they blame others for their own problems because NO ONE will confront them with the truth!!

                                              • 4 votes
                                              #20.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:31 PM EDT

                                              In addition to the parents we can also add some blame to the psychologists, psychiatrists, educators and others who say "we don't want to hurt the child's self-esteem or view of self worth by paddling, holding back, using a red pen" or any of the other things that many of us received that helped make us better student and citizens. Like others, I received swats in grade school (used to get swats for lack of homework or fighting and after the first swats for each I didn't miss any homework nor did I get into any fights) and it made me think before I did something as to whether or not the swats would be worth it.

                                                #20.3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

                                                We can blame those things MORE than the parents in my experience. Do keep in mind I AM an educator.

                                                  #20.4 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:29 PM EDT
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                                                  "She has mood swings some days, which all of us have mood swings some days,". YEAH.....but we don't tear up the place lady when we have our moods....LOL. This whole article is hilarious. The parents should be more concerned and embarrassed with their child's behavior. It's funny how the offenders and their families always forget the damages caused and the injuries inflicted. Instead, they want to argue about how people respond to their offenses. Don't break the law or cause problems and maybe we wouldn't be having these discussions. Oh wait, that's too hard to do.

                                                  • 16 votes
                                                  Reply#21 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:53 AM EDT

                                                  "He didn't MEAN to shoot nobody! He was just havin' one of his MOODY days! He's a GOOD boy!"

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                                                  #21.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:10 PM EDT
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                                                  Well at least they ddn't beat or tase her...

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                                                  Reply#22 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:54 AM EDT
                                                  Comment author avatarKristin Cranervia Facebook

                                                  "Johnson's aunt, Candace Ruff, said the girl "might have misbehaved, but I don't think she actually misbehaved to the point that she should have been handcuffed and taken downtown to the police department."

                                                  looks like Candace needs to pay full attention as to what happened in that classroom/principals office. It sounds like the that little girl went bat sh!t crazy! Being detained by the police was exactly the right thing to happen to that kid. I sure as hell hope she was "shaken" from being put in a cell, in hopes of her realizing that her actions were 100% inappropriate. Please get the right help for that child, or she will do more harm to herself in the future.

                                                  If it happened to my son, I wouldn't act like a victim, Id get help for him.

                                                  • 18 votes
                                                  Reply#23 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:55 AM EDT

                                                  Going bat sh!t crazy is an understatment you know. Back when I was groing up me dad would've drug me to deaths door and warned me never to do that again. Followed by an ass busting. (deaths door was a prison that was about 46 miles from my old house)The place literally was being at deaths door. People would die everyday. Bring your kids there. The treatment works.

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                                                  #23.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:10 PM EDT
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                                                  Very sad---but in an era when parents are increasingly abdicating their responsibilities to prepare their children for school--and life in society--society must cope as best it can. These parents should stop blaming those whom they have inflicted a poorly raised child on, and look to themselves. It is THEIR job to raise their children to be appropriate members of society. They ought to be grateful for this wake-up call--now what are they going to do to improve THEIR performance?

                                                  • 14 votes
                                                  Reply#24 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:56 AM EDT

                                                  James, they're going to sue the school and continue to stick up for that brat's atrocious behavior until someone won't put up with her abusing them and kills her!

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                                                  #24.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:37 PM EDT
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                                                  Are you kidding she was just having a bad day? No child has the right to act that way and a mother justify it by saying she is moody and having a bad day. Why wasn't the mother available when the police tried to contact her............had she been around the child wouldn't have been handcuffed and led away. Sad story even sadder that a parent is making excuses for the uncontrollable behavior of a kindergartner imagine what her moods will be like when she is a teen would you want your child in class with her and risk another bad day?

                                                  • 14 votes
                                                  Reply#25 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:56 AM EDT

                                                  Wow! I agree with you. 6 years old!!!! I wonder if the child has an emotional problem or even a deficit problem. Hello doctor or maybe Hello psychologist.

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  #25.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:49 PM EDT
                                                  Comment author avatarDevone Bowervia Facebook

                                                  if that happen here she been in juvenile detention. we have school police at the old place. police to protect and serve. also been issue a $250 ticket. and have to take some class or counseling and mit have get a lawyer. think this something spend some time at the juvenile detention. see what these have deal with . and im not talk about high school. elem

                                                    #25.2 - Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:28 AM EDT
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                                                    I agree with what the police did. As long as they didn't harm her, it was probably the only thing that would protect the child fro herself, and teahc her a valuable lesson about responsibility. If my wife were a cop or principalI wouldn't want her to be hit by a kindergartner.

                                                    • 11 votes
                                                    Reply#26 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:57 AM EDT
                                                    Comment author avatarDonald claytonExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                    only good cop a dead one.

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                                                    #26.1 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

                                                    this "BRAT" should get help, (JAIL) at sixteen who or how many will they have killed or hurt????????????

                                                    • 5 votes
                                                    #26.2 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:06 PM EDT

                                                    only good cop a dead one.

                                                    Come on now, Donald clayton. You should know not to troll an entire group, including the police. Don't death wish either.

                                                    You are suspended for a week for violating rule # 5 of the Code of Honor.

                                                    • 10 votes
                                                    #26.3 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

                                                    That's a thumbs up!!!

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                                                    #26.4 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:07 PM EDT

                                                    VA_indy is right! The actions of the school officials and the police will be a lesson to the child. And from the comment of the parent, maybe that parent needs to start disciplining their child and the police will not have too!!!

                                                    • 4 votes
                                                    #26.5 - Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:23 PM EDT
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