Spring nor'easter cuts power to 75,000; around foot of snow in places

While the weekend rain brought relief to the dry conditions in the Northeast, temperatures in the West hit record highs. Weather Channel meteorologist Jim Cantore reports.

A powerful spring storm dumped snow across parts of the Northeast overnight -- including around a foot in at least three places -- and cut power to more than 75,000 customers in Pennsylvania and upstate New York, with more snow expected overnight.

"Winter storm warnings are in effect from the higher elevations of West Virginia northward to western New York," the National Weather Service stated.

Most of the snow was falling across upstate New York, West Virginia, Maryland and Pennsylvania, where the weather service predicted the heaviest snowfall "of over an inch per hour" would occur through midday Monday.


In addition, flood watches were in effect in parts of eastern New York and northern Maine, the weather service stated.

Strong winds accompanied the storm overnight, with LaGuardia Airport in New York City recording a 54 mph gust. Winds hit 40 mph in Boston and 44 in Groton, Conn.

By early Monday morning, 10 inches of snow was reported in Newfield, in western New York near Ithaca, while 5 inches had fallen in Boswell, Pa., weather.com reported.

Sylvania, Pa., later reported 11 inches of snow, while Laurel Summit, Pa., saw nearly 14 inches.

"Snowfall amounts of 6 to 12 inches with localized amounts as high as 15 inches will be possible across areas from the higher terrain of West Virginia and western Maryland northward to the shores of Lake Erie and Lake Ontario in New York," the weather service stated.

The heavy snow was weighing down trees, some of which snapped and cut power lines.

Leaves on trees are "three to four weeks ahead of schedule because of the exceptionally warm winter and spring" prior to the storm, the Weather Channel's Eric Fisher reported for NBC's TODAY show. "That acts like a net to collect this heavy, wet snow."

 

Some 25,000 power outages were reported in New York state by noon. "Outage numbers are likely to continue climb as the storm is moving slowly," Gov. Andrew Cuomo's office said in a statement.

Pennsylvannia reported 50,000 outages.

In western Pennsylvania, some schools were closed Monday morning, the Associated Press reported.

Weather.com noted that while Northeast snow in the past has "fallen well into the month of May in many locations from western New York to West Virginia, snowfall this heavy, so late in the season is rare."

Buffalo, N.Y., for example, has seen 10 calendar days of an inch or more snow after April 22, according to records that date back to 1884. But it has seen only three calendar days after April 22 with at least four inches of snow.

On Sunday, the storm moved in with heavy rain, prompting the Boston Red Sox to postpone a night game against the New York Yankees. In New York City, the scheduled arrival of the space shuttle Enterprise for museum display there was pushed back.

The precipitation should help ease what was a spreading drought in the Northeast.

"We're down 7 or 8 inches," weather service forecaster Charlie Foley told the Associated Press. "This won't completely wipe out the deficit but it will certainly help."

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Crazy weather for this time of year.

  • 6 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:47 AM EDT

Why is local weather on the national news page? Oh, I forgot; to the media, New York is the center of the universe.

  • 12 votes
#1.1 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:07 PM EDT

Spider,

Because it is an interesting story considering the extreme nature of a storm with snow at this time of year. Doesn't matter where it is. If it bothers you so much, don't read.

  • 30 votes
#1.2 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:17 PM EDT

Because if it's not about Spider, it's not news.

  • 18 votes
#1.3 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:21 PM EDT

Heavy snow in late April is news, Spider.

  • 15 votes
#1.4 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:34 PM EDT

Especially since it was just 82 degrees one week ago!!

  • 16 votes
#1.5 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:12 PM EDT

good one spider, can't stop the smile's .

this is old new's every year its the same ...maybe everyone forgot this area use to be under a mile of snow and ice

  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:38 PM EDT

spider, someone ought to kick you in the face for trying to be a smart ass.

  • 4 votes
#1.7 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:44 PM EDT

Spider-This Western New Yorker takes offense at your comment. Get over yourself. Thank you Normalperson. Good response

  • 2 votes
#1.8 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:00 PM EDT

Think of it this way Spider. If you have friends or family in that area isn't it better to be informed in case you don't hear from them for a while.
I have friends in that area and under normal weather, I might hear from them once a week or so. But with weather like this, when the power and heat are out, I would make a point of checking in with them and make sure they are okay. I may not be able to do much to help, but you never know. And it's better than not knowing at all.

That said, I hope all are okay and power is restored soon.

  • 4 votes
#1.9 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:08 PM EDT

it's not just the NE, we are feeling the wrath down in FL today as well. It's after 3:00pm and it's still 68F outside, that doesn't even take the wind chill factor into account. Almost as bad as that day we got a frost back in January.

  • 2 votes
#1.10 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

Spider, I totally agree with you! The rest of the country can experience floods, tornadoes, fires, earthquakes and whatever else nature can dish out and the media does not bother. A few snow flurries in the northeast and it is a national disaster!

Keep your pants on new englanders and east coasters - the snow will melt within 2 days and you then will have to gripe about the warm weather!!!!!!!

    #1.11 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:27 PM EDT

    Anne, Get your panties out of your crack!!! The media is always there when Mother Nature unleashes her fury, whether it is dust storms hitting Phoenix, Earthquakes on the west coast, Floods in the midwest, or tornadoes hitting Alabama, Joplin, MO or any other place. Just because you are not interested in the weather in other parts of the country does not mean that other people are not interested. Some of us travel for a living and like to be kept informed of the weather...and some people have relatives in the affected area so we are interested in what is happening. Crawl back into your little cave and don't come back out until Spring!!!

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    #1.12 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:44 PM EDT

    Unusual weather, yes, unheard of, no.

    My parents have pictures of me on Easter Sunday in the late 60s on Long Island, outside, in shorts, standing in the middle of a shoveled walkway with snow piled high on either side and the landscape covered in a deep snow.

      #1.13 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:23 AM EDT
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      Crazy weather for any time of year! Nasty of me, but the first thought was I'm glad it's not me. Hope they will all be OK.

      • 7 votes
      Reply#2 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:59 AM EDT

      Barbara:

      I shared your sentiment, it got a little chilly here but thankfully, no snow! I did wonder what affect this will have on the early blooms and trees sprouting leaves?

      Best regards to our northern neighbors!

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      #2.1 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:43 PM EDT
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      Too bad it missed Washington D.C. Time to shut down our government so things can "briefly" turn back to normal for a few days.

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      Reply#3 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:02 AM EDT

      Could we make that about 10 months !!!

        #3.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:26 AM EDT
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        Comment author avatarJody-1593626Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        It's global warming!

        • 9 votes
        Reply#4 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:03 AM EDT

        Good thing we have global warming, otherwise just think how much worse this storm might have been, LMAO!!!!!

        • 1 vote
        #4.1 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

        Global warming sure is unreliable these days. It's disgraceful.

          #4.2 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:48 PM EDT
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          Not good for the global warming folks.

          • 6 votes
          #5 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:04 AM EDT
          Comment author avatarskny1026Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          Extreme weather is influenced by global warming. Time to get your head out of the sand.

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          #5.1 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:10 AM EDT

          This is not even close to being extreme weather. It's April-it snows in April. We've had blizzards in Northeastern Ohio in April. Get a grip on reality, pal.

          • 22 votes
          #5.2 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:30 AM EDT

          Snowstorms in April is NOT Extreme weather. Maybe in Florida it would be. But not in the Northeast.

          • 19 votes
          #5.3 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

          Wow, anyone who disagrees with global warming, has there head and the sand and believes the world is flat.

          It once was global cooling we had to watch out for, then it was global warming and then it is just climate change to fit the agenda. When will you all grow up and stop being just blind party hacks and address real problems.

          Reefs are getting killed by fertilizer and phosphate mining and it won't be fixed because idiots blame it on global warming, while reefs only ninety miles away are thriving and that country uses no fertilizer. Go figure!

          • 16 votes
          #5.4 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:44 AM EDT

          Please refer to your "Enviromental Whacko Manual" Page 242, Paragraph 4.. "...When colder weather is encountered, this should be refered to as "Climate Change"...

          • 10 votes
          #5.5 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:52 AM EDT

          Keep that narrow mind in the sand. It will help maintain your state of denial.

          • 9 votes
          #5.6 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:54 AM EDT

          This is nothing completely unusual it has been seen before and it happens every now and then through the ages and would not be considered extreme weather besides it is fresh water and is actually a good sign against drought. Even though it may not be "global warming" we still need to consider the environment and the rate that humans have been depleting it.

          • 3 votes
          #5.7 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:58 AM EDT

          So, if my head was out of the sand and I believed global cooling when I was younger and then I was still enlightened when I was older and believe global warming and then we had record cold winters, they changed it to climate change and when weather miraculously remains about the same for a while, it will be man-made global climate stagnation.

          When I believe all of this, will I be as enlightened as you?

          • 12 votes
          #5.8 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:59 AM EDT

          When it snows in June, then it's "global warming". Snow in April is just nothing to get all excited about. It's perfectly normal for anyone who lives in the NorthEast.

          About 15-16yrs ago, we had a major blizzard in NewEngland on April 1st. The April Fools storm dumped about 2-1/2ft of the stuff on the ground.

          10" of snow is just nothing to worked up over.

          • 9 votes
          #5.9 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:17 PM EDT

          For the global warming folks out there, do a little reading. Do an internet search for "eocene period" it will open your eyes to the truth about our worlds' climate history.

          Then come back here and lets debate "global warming", OK?

          • 9 votes
          #5.10 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:32 PM EDT

          Not good for the global warming folks.

          One could make book on just such an assinine statement being posted in response to this story.

          • 5 votes
          #5.11 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:36 PM EDT

          For the global warming folks out there, do a little reading. Do an internet search for "eocene period" it will open your eyes to the truth about our worlds' climate history.

          Then come back here and lets debate "global warming", OK?

          Anywho - how about you familiarize yourself with the concept of cause and effect. You might also want to acquaint your self with the correct geological terminology regarding the Eocene, which was an "Epoch", not a "Period".

          Nobody denies the Eocene Epoch was largely much warmer than the climate today. Scientists offer multiple theories as to why.

          The question today is why is our climate warming in the here and now?

          Nothing happens without a cause, and with the Suns brightness largely stable over the last half-century you and others who believe nothing man-related is involved in the warming of the global climate, have yet to offer a counter theory to explain it.

          Instead you triumphantly point to the Eocene Epoch, or the Carboniferous Period and say, "See it was warmer then, too!", an argument logically equivalent to explaining a bullet riddled corpse by saying your aunt Martha died of a heart attack back in 1969.

          News Flash: We're not living in the Eocene Epoch. Whatever global changes which caused a warming trend over this stretch of millions of years, they cannot be said to be occurring over the last 50 years. The sun is not growing brighter. The configuration of the Earths continents have not changed. With a few exceptions, the same flora and fauna are present today, as were in 1962.

          The ball is in your court, anywho ....slowly rolling beyond baseline.

          • 10 votes
          #5.12 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

          it actually makes perfect sense to global warming people. As ice melts in the poles it is evaporated into the atmosphere where it is driven southward then condenses and snows.

          • 4 votes
          #5.13 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

          "News Flash: We're not living in the Eocene Epoch."

          No, we are not living in the Eocene Epoch, but maybe we are headed that way again, maybe we are not the sole cause of the current climate changes happening today. Who is to say that the temperatures of the Eocene Epoch are NOT the normal climate for this planet? And the climate as we know it today, is actually the end of a cooler period, or the final stages of the last ice age. Humans were not around during the Eocene Epoch burning fossil fuel in mass quantities to cause the warm climate of that period. There was a HUGE global event that threw the world into the last ice age, scientists are continuing to search for the answers of what that event was. They have many different theories, and possibilities of what could have happened, some even have evidence of their theories, while others have evidence to explain their theory and contradict the others.

          Also, even if America stops burning fossil fuel tomorrow, that does not mean the rest of the world is going to follow suit.

          • 3 votes
          #5.14 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:44 PM EDT

          Here's a theory for you. The Sun is the great engine that powers the weather on this planet. This year we are having somewhat extreme weather phenomena. This year we are also having somewhat extreme solar flares. Hmmm. What might that mean? This could certainly explain this years weather. I know this doesn't explain the whole crazy warming/cooling climate change thing, but you can bet the Sun plays a major part in creating those extremes. I don't often hear scientists mention any word about the Suns effect on climate change. They only seem to like talking about how humans are changing the climate. Maybe a reader here can point me in the right direction for information on the Suns effect on climate change.

          • 3 votes
          #5.15 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:00 PM EDT

          No, we are not living in the Eocene Epoch, but maybe we are headed that way again, maybe we are not the sole cause of the current climate changes happening today.

          Again, with fading expectations, I'll ask, what is driving the warming of our climate TODAY?

          The Eocene was geological age which lasted million years. During that time many climate-affecting changes may have occurred, such as changes in the sun brightness, shifting of the earths continents,or the uplifting of mountain ranges, such as the Himalayas. Which of these factors was most at work, I do not know. I do believe that it was not the result of some mysterious and hidden global thermostat being turned a couple of clicks clockwise.

          I challenge you to find any such factor today, which are shifting with such speed and magnitude as to drive the warming of the Earth's climate over the past 50 to 100 years. The Sun did warm slightly in the decades following the 1820s, but in the years since it has shifted both up and down. Since 1950, the trend has been downward (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090719195200.htm), and while the suns radiance does vary on an an 11 year cycle, the peaks of these cycles were slightly lower in 2000, than in 1980 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation)

          There was a HUGE global event that threw the world into the last ice age, scientists are continuing to search for the answers of what that event was.

          Many factors relatively difficult to trace or prove today may have been at work. Scientists may differ over which cause or causes were at work. BUT, I know of no creditable scientific authority claiming that, "hey, it just happened. Go figure?".

          Do you?

          So Again, what event is occurring today?

          If something of this magnitude is occurring, it should be measurable.

          Or is God simply turning up some mystical thermostat?

          Cause and effect: The Earth is not getting warmer without some, measurable cause. If it is not human activity (for the 4th time), what is it?

          Well, I read about the Eocene Epoch and have returned to the Global Warming debate. Have you taken the time to refresh you understanding of the concepts of cause and effect.

          I'm still awaiting your explanation as to what is happening TODAY, not thousands or millions of years ago. To point to past events as an explanation of current phenomenon without drawing some evidential link is not logically supportable. That was the point of my metaphor regarding your Aunt Martha.

          • 8 votes
          #5.16 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:11 PM EDT

          guitarjock - The suns radiance, which is connected to sunspot activity, does vary on an approximate cycle of 11 years. We are approaching a solar peak. However, unless the peaks of these cycles are growing higher over time, there can be no link to decades-long changes in our global climate.

          I do agree that incidental variances in weather, be it a particularly mild winter, or very cool winter, mean little in terms of determining if the climate is changing. But measurements over time, along with anecdotal evidence, such as the gradual clearing of ice in the Arctic Ocean does strongly indicate that something is happening.

          • 5 votes
          #5.17 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:21 PM EDT

          @dman-353357: Excellent/liked/+1 !!!

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          #5.18 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:26 PM EDT

          @dman-353357

          The cause (of climate change) is because the earth is probably returning to what MAY be its normal temperatures. EFFECT the ice fields and polar caps are melting causing less global cooling. Less ice = less cooling, less cooling = gained heat, gained heat = ice melting faster, less ice melting faster = faster gained heat, so yes, the less ice we have to cool the earth, the faster it's going to heat up, to answer your last 50-100 year warming trend. Also add in the affect that the ice is/was reflecting some of the solar radiant heat, with less ice to reflect the radiant heat it factors into the heat gain of the earth as well.

          • 1 vote
          #5.19 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:02 PM EDT

          This article might also interest you, if you have not seen it already.

          "'Gaia' scientist James Lovelock: I was 'alarmist' about climate change" Lets see if i can get the link posted.

          worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/23/11144098-gaia-scientist-james-lovelock-i-was-alarmist-about-climate-change?lite

          • 2 votes
          #5.20 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

          The cause (of climate change) is because the earth is probably returning to what MAY be its normal temperatures

          Anywho, you are dodging the issue. There is no normal, average global temperature. The Earth's climate is not like a pendulum swinging in ever decreasing arcs, around some base or "normal" temperature. The average has always been and will always be a function of how much radiance is received by the sun, combined with how much heat is retained and how this warmth is distributed by the oceans of the world.

          At times in the Earth's past the climate has been markedly warmer. At other times it has been cooler. But in all cases there must always be a direct cause for the prevailing norm, or average temperature.

          Just like your house over the course of the year, there is no unvarying, "normal temperature" prevailing in the world. If the house is unheated and lacks air conditioning, its normal temperature will approximate the ambient temperature of the surrounding environment. In January this may be below freezing. In July it may be over 90. If you turn on your heat, or air conditioning the internal temperature will move to what we term a normal room temperature. But this does not happen automatically; it would be nice if it did.

          So, if the global climate is growing warmer, there has to be an absolute cause. Either the sun's radiance is increasing, or the earth is retaining more of the heat energy received. You cannot just theorize that the temperature is returning to some mystical norm. Such a thing just does not and cannot exist.

          Also add in the affect that the ice is/was reflecting some of the solar radiant heat, with less ice to reflect the radiant heat it factors into the heat gain of the earth as well.

          The effect you cite is real, but it what is known as a secondary, reinforcing factor. The ice did not start melting of itself. It reacted to warming temperatures. The diminished ice cover may increase the Earth's ability to absorb and retain heat, but the melting ice can never be the original cause.

          There are other reinforcing factors, such as the amount of water vapor in the air. Water vapor too is a greenhouse gas, and the amount in our air is increasing. But this too, is a secondary, reinforcing factor. At any temperature level, the atmosphere will only hold so much water vapor. Any additional amount will condense and precipitate out. If the temperature rises, so too does the amount of moisture the air can contain as vapor. If it falls, so too does the air's capacity to hold water as vapor. This is why weather men speak of the dew point on the evening forecast.

          So to cite melting ice, or some unexplained tendency of the Earth's climate to return to a"norm", is to circle around the question. Something is always causing a rise or fall in the Earth's average temperature.

          Thus, the question remains, why, in today's world is the earth growing warmer?

          I did read the article regarding James Lovelock's alarmist predictions regarding global warming. I too decry such exaggerations. But the admitted excesses of "experts" like James Lovelock do not mean that global warming is not occurring, or that there will not be adverse impacts.

          Finally, at this point, you will either see the sense of my arguments or not. I cannot better explain my reasons for believing in man-influenced climate change. You have listened and responded politely, for which I thank you

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          #5.21 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:38 PM EDT

          breakstuff81

          Not good for the global warming folks.

          Yeah, it snowed in the Northeast of the U.S.A. -- so that just has to mean that it's cold enough to snow everywhere. Yeah, and the Pope admitted that the Catholic Church is 100% responsible for the deliberate terrorism and torture of pregnant girls. Don't know what I'm talking about? Then look up "Magdalen Laundries".

          Global Warming means that the whole planet is warming -- not just one little part of it. GLOBAL Average Temperature, GLOBAL Warming. It is as evident as the nose on your face.

            #5.22 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:43 PM EDT

            Climate change, real and natural to the state of our planet. We are but a blip on the radar in the geological timeline.

            Anthropomorphic climate change, a theory that man profoundly affected the current weather. This has been discussed ad nauseum by climatologists with thousands of scientists showing contrary findings. Ergo, theory disproved IMO. These alarmists are much akin to the ones that were certain in the 1970s we were heading towards another ice age.

            That being said, do I want dirty air/water for my prodigeny? No friggin way! I just think the religion of anthropomorphic global warming is a farce. Ask Al Gore how the weather is at his beach-front property in California.

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            #5.23 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:59 PM EDT

            LiarsInPolictics, In the interests of intellectual honesty, I'll ask you the same question I have asked Anywho, other than human activity, what factor or factor is causing the current rise in the average global temperatures?

            The sun is measurably brighter than it was 50 years ago. The oceans currents, the elevation of mountain ranges, the configuration of continents have not changed since 1962.

            What has changed?

              #5.24 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:11 PM EDT

              The sun is measurably brighter than it was 50 years ago.

              I, of course, meant to write "The sun is not measurably brighter than it was 50 years ago".

                #5.25 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:29 AM EDT

                Average global temps have not had a sharp rise (.6 degrees Celcius in the last 100 years). There was also a decline during several decades in that time period (mid 1900s, mid 1940s and 1970s)

                I don't claim to have all the answers. Solar flare/sunspot activity?

                40 years ago scientists proclaimed we were heading for another ice age.

                Climate change is the natural order of our planet. How else would you explain tropical plant fossils in Greenland or Antarctica?

                Intellectual honesty is not coming from those who would skew recorded data to suit their own adgenda. (see East Anglia's Climate Research Unit)

                • 1 vote
                #5.26 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:23 AM EDT

                I don't claim to have all the answers. Solar flare/sunspot activity?

                LiarsInPoltics - Actually, you do not give any answers to the obvious question. Solar flare/sunspot activity is tied directly to the amount of radiance emitted by the sun. It does vary over an 11 year cycle, but as I have stated before these cycles are not rising. The most recent peaks, are not higher than the peaks from 30 or 40 years ago. In fact, since 1950, the trend, though slight, is downward.

                Yet in that time, the average surface temperature has risen by approximately 1 degree Fahrenheit, which is a significant, if not sharp increase. (http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/recenttc.html).

                WHY?

                The upward variations you cite from the 1940s, through the 1970s, are miniscule by comparison see graph at link supplied above).

                Climate change is the natural order of our planet. How else would you explain tropical plant fossils in Greenland or Antarctica?

                Again, this logically equivalent to explaining a specific, suspicious death by saying, "Everybody dies, it happens.". It is lucky the police do not investigate murders with this mind set; nobody would ever be prosecuted. Whatever conditions allowed tropical rain forests to flourish in Antarctica in some past time period, we cannot say such conditions are prevailing today.

                Intellectual honesty is not coming from those who would skew recorded data to suit their own adgenda. (see East Anglia's Climate Research Unit)

                Whatever the deficiencies in intellectual honesty, professional jealousies and other failings of a group of scientists in East Anglia, a region of England, most would have trouble finding on the map, they do not change the fact that the Earth has grown significantly warmer in the last 40 years.

                I'll ask again, WHY?

                BTW: What you would term a "sharp rise (6 degrees Celsius)," would constitute approximately twice the difference between the Earth's average temperature during the last Ice Age and today (http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html) I think we can take note of lesser changes without considering ourselves alarmists.

                I'll ask again. The question is simple, and inescapable. The earth is growing warmer over the last 40 years, WHY?


                  #5.27 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:43 AM EDT

                  @ dman-353357 "You have listened and responded politely, for which I thank you."

                  I have to say the same of your comments. Goes to show not all debates have to get ugly like they so often do, especially on public comment boards like this one.

                  At this time, i dont know of anyone that can without a doubt answer WHY our climate is changing. I wont sit here and try to convince anyone that it's not changing. In my opinion, i don't think it's all to blame on human activity, but i also believe that we could be compounding the speed of which it's happening.

                    #5.28 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:06 PM EDT

                    Fair enough, Anywho. Well said.

                      #5.29 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:59 PM EDT
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                      Sucks to be living there -

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                      Reply#6 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:07 AM EDT

                      Not really. Snow melts and replenishes the fresh water supply. It doesn't typically destroy homes or kill many people. I'll take it over drought, hurricanes, tornadoes, or earthquakes any day.

                      • 13 votes
                      #6.1 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:23 AM EDT

                      I live in PA, and I like living here....I'll gladly take an April snowstorm over a hurricane or earthquake. I have a cousin who lives in CA, and she'd rather have the earthquake than the snow. To each their own! :)

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                      #6.2 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:24 PM EDT

                      Now a days you are given so much warning for Hurricanes that it's really your fault if you die as a direct result of a named storm. Unless of course you live in New Orleans because then it's everyone's fault besides your own... So to those of us in FL hurricanes are just a way of life and you deal with them, and once every 3-5 years you may be temporarily inconvenienced; I'd rather have a slight chance I have to clean up after a storm than the guaranty that you have to shovel snow every year. CA can keep the earthquakes because the idea of the ground moving bothers me.

                        #6.3 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:41 PM EDT
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                        While I feel sorry for people without their power, if I lived in that area, which has a history of this type of weather, and the power losses that come with it, I would have a generator hard wired into my house with a "throw switch" on it.

                        Like the Boy Scouts say, "Be prepared." And no Jody, it's not global warming, wasn't too long ago we had idiots screaming the ice age was coming again, with their global cooling manure. Now it might be a climate change, or it maynot be a climate change. And yes, the weather has been a little crazy in some places, can't deny that.

                        • 7 votes
                        Reply#7 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:09 AM EDT

                        Been prepping ever since Rita came through and we were without power for 28 days. It sucked then but I sleep better at night now knowing that we can handle just about anything as long as we live through it. Food, shelter, water and alternative power make a big difference since you are not one of the last minute shoppers fighting over bottled water.

                        • 11 votes
                        #7.1 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:25 AM EDT
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                        Damn that global warning! Of course most of the posters that condemn everyone else in time of disaster, from wildfires and hurricanes to tornadoes seem to stem from this region of the country. Unlike you, we wish you all, the best.

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                        Reply#8 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:16 AM EDT

                        Lousiest interface ever put out by microsoft, videos dont on my windows 7, the old internet explorer worked much better

                          Reply#9 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:31 AM EDT

                          And apparently it's so bad it even makes your comments appear in the wrong article.

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                          #9.1 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

                          Since when is West Virginia, western NY, and western PA considered the east coast??????????

                          • 8 votes
                          #9.2 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:22 PM EDT
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                          I live in Western New York and our weather is unpredictable. It is nasty here right now with the snow, rain and wind. Upstate New York and our southern tier are getting hit hard. It was 80 degrees 3 days ago here and now we're under winter storm warnings! It has snowed in May here before so anything is possible with our crazy weather!

                          • 6 votes
                          Reply#10 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

                          It's a left wing conspiracy . Don't you know that the communists can control the weather ? Vote republican and this won't happen .

                          • 6 votes
                          Reply#11 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

                          NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN. All this is "Lil" gw bush-league's and that dick, Cheney's fault. If Romney gets elected it will be his fault. Republicans are the embodiment of BLAME!!!

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                          #11.1 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:57 AM EDT

                          Mike, you are a MORON!!!!

                            #11.2 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:24 PM EDT

                            I am surprised he got 5 other people to agree with this brand of BS.

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                            #11.3 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:33 PM EDT

                            Are you really that dense that you don't recognize the sarcasm ?

                              #11.4 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:12 AM EDT
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                              Global warming at it's best.

                              Non believers are following faux.

                              AND yes it is political !!!! Vote Dem so we might not have an end to the North & South poles !!!


                              • 2 votes
                              #12 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

                              Vote Republican and Global Warming will be what it is...a scam!

                              • 6 votes
                              #12.1 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:57 AM EDT

                              Really? Just what is it the Dems are gonna do to prevent the "end of the North & South poles"? Idiot.

                              "Climate Change" is a natural process that has occurred multiple times over the eons. Man may be able to cause a small hitch in the process, but nothing we can do is capable of derailing the evolution of our planet. It is only the arrogance of the left that says otherwise. It is not within our purview to control the environment, but it is well within our capabilities to adapt to the challenges our changing climate presents to us.

                              One wonders what the reaction of the modern-day left would be if they were around during the climate change that resulted in the retreat of the glaciers? Or the retreat of the primal ocean that created the habitable areas of the southwestern US? There is solid evidence that areas of the Arctic were once temperate and much of the continential US was downright tropical. Hint: There were no SUV's around then.

                              • 15 votes
                              #12.2 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:59 AM EDT

                              Excellent post Larry, but unfortunately, those who believe in global warming don't want to deal with facts.

                              • 9 votes
                              #12.3 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

                              So what policies will the Democrats come up with that provide an alternative energy source for the planets 7+ billion people? It is global warming after all not US warming. I'll save you the hassle of making something up. None. Here's an 'Inconvenient Truth' for you. There is no energy source capable of supplying the energy needs of humans let alone when the population hits 8 billion or 9 billion. No politician, no political party, no country has the political pull to put in place the only thing that can stave off humanities need for more energy. Fewer people.

                              • 4 votes
                              #12.4 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:21 PM EDT

                              LOL!!! The dems couldnt stop anything except fiscal responsibility...

                              • 2 votes
                              #12.5 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:36 PM EDT

                              Excellent post Larry!!! Its obvious that Hannah-2721721 bought good ole Al's book and also has the DVD set to play every time she turns on the TV, she must also keep the book on the toilet tank for bathroom reading material.

                              As i posted in reply to an earlier statement, if they want to educate them selves about the world's climate history, just do an internet search for "eocene period" and read some of the articles that are from reputable institutions (not our Govt).

                              • 1 vote
                              #12.6 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:57 PM EDT

                              One wonders what the reaction of the modern-day left would be if they were around during the climate change that resulted in the retreat of the glaciers?

                              Well, Larry, if there were a natural explanation for the change, I would certainly accept it. But in the here and now, as opposed during some past geological age, I've yet to here a logical explanation at to what other factor, besides human activity, may be affecting our climate.

                              How about it? Instead of talking about past geological events, occurring over thousands or even millions of years, and for which scientists at least theorize about the cause, give me your theory as to why the global climate is markedly warmer over the last 50 years, while the suns radiance has remained cyclical, but stable?

                              What have you got to say?

                              Did God just turn up the thermostat?

                              ....hmmmm?

                              • 4 votes
                              #12.7 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:43 PM EDT

                              Skup- "There is no energy source capable of supplying the energy needs of humans let alone when the population hits 8 billion or 9 billion."

                              Your statement could not be further from the truth. Solar, Biomass, Geothermal, Ocean & wave, and Hydro all have an ANNUAL production potential that far exceeds current global energy consumption. The potential for hydro is the smallest of these with solar being the highest. Biomass and geothermal individually have a potential to supply enough power to cover demand even if the earth's population were to be 8-10 times greater than it is currently. Wind potential per year is at least ten times greater than geo and biomass combined and the amount of solar irradiation that reaches the earth in one calender year is at least twenty times the amount of potentia, of the TOTAL potential in existence on earth, of coal, oil, gas, and uranium combined. See the link below (the second slide with the color coded box graph)

                              • 1 vote
                              #12.8 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:29 PM EDT

                              No link allowed ? Try this.

                              W W W DOT greenpeace DOT org/international/Global/international/publications/climate/2010/SolarGeneration2010.pdf

                              • 1 vote
                              #12.9 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:35 PM EDT

                              People....people...

                              Lets keep science just science and not involve politics of Dempublicans or Repcrats.

                              • 5 votes
                              #12.10 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:41 PM EDT

                              Dante - excellent idea.

                              • 1 vote
                              #12.11 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:59 PM EDT

                              The only reason why this storm has been a story at all is because up to now, April has been much more summerlike than normal which is cold, still snowing on and off, and a couple of decent days here and there. Not golf weather with dry fairways.

                              • 2 votes
                              #12.12 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:00 PM EDT

                              Well, headhunter, in Buffalo, NY, they are talking about as much as 16 inches of snow, which would be an all time record for April. That, together with the damage expected makes this storm news worthy, even if we had had a normally cold winter.

                                #12.13 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:00 PM EDT

                                dman, You can tell it like it is but the deniers will always go back to fox for more brainwashing.

                                  #12.14 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:47 PM EDT

                                  I think I understand people's resistance. To admit that as an apparently inescapable by-product of how we live, we are altering the planet's climate, with unforeseeable consequences, is alarming. It scares me, and I enjoy driving as much as the next man; for 4 years I had a Honda S2000 as a second car, and I loved driving it. I got married. The car is now gone. Cost of love, I guess.

                                  But I do not think we can escape the conclusion that rising levels of greenhouse gasses are causing an accelerating warming of our climate, that human activity is the primary agent in this effect, and that the consequences of this warming are unlikely to all be positive.

                                  It is scary. But other than avoiding a general panic, I see no benefit to denying what is manifestly happening.

                                    #12.15 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:05 PM EDT
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                                    its just weather, nothing extreme. hope they get their power back soon though:)

                                    • 3 votes
                                    Reply#13 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

                                    Congress should look at this snow storm and the over 100 degree temps in the west as a sign that the weather has gone crazy. But what are they doing. Investigating the gsa & secret service. And what about ted nuget & the gop, the rushbo, mr grover, & the nra. Nugent admittedly shot & killed bears illegally. Somebody should take his gun away. Another gop nut case with a gun.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    Reply#14 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:44 AM EDT

                                    You meant MAJOR GOP NUT CASE! Nugent is the poster idiot for the Conservative right wing NUT! He got himself on a Secret Service watch list because of his racism. Nugent is a piece of right wing CRAP!

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #14.1 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:59 AM EDT
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                                    For u idiots bashing global warming when one layer of the atmosphere warms up another layer cools off! So if it warms a few layers above the ground things become more volitile. Just wait till 15 inches get dumped in august. Then you all will really be eating those words.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    Reply#15 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:45 AM EDT

                                    We are idiots? You are calling a once every 25 year cold event global warming and we are the idiots. Grow up child, your little bit of knowledge that was spoon fed to you is embarrassing.

                                    • 8 votes
                                    #15.1 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:51 AM EDT

                                    Do not expect a narrow minded, pea-brained Conservative to ever understand science. That understanding might impinge on their selfish, wasteful, lifestyle! It's easier to just consume and burn without thought to the effects on the environment. Republicans are the embodiment of ignorance!

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #15.2 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

                                    Please explain liberal brilliance.

                                    They claim reefs are dying from global warming, yet Cuba's reefs are flourishing. Please explain to us pea-minded people how that happens.

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #15.3 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:09 PM EDT

                                    I am with You Jimmy, you have won me over! I have a few fresh ideas:

                                    1. Let's practice what we preach! No more using that evil petroleum and the stuff made from it. This does mean you will have to toss your plastic encased computer away, but that is fine since you should not be using that nasty electricity to surf the net any-hoo.

                                    2. Let's quit breathing for a day to reduce personal CO2 emissions.. You can go first and let me know how it works out.

                                    3. Please sell your house and car, they are made up off all kinds of plastic stuff, as well as refined metals (it takes energy to smelt and forge steel ya know) and probably tons of wood (tree killer!!!). I suggest a mud hut for you, hand dug of course, with a nice sod roof so you can scrub a little more CO2. Be sure and get a sheep to mow your lawn.

                                    These are just a few steps..I got plenty more good ideas that I want to force onto you. Of course, I will not be doing any of this myself because we both know it is what you say that matters, not what you actually do.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #15.4 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:24 PM EDT

                                    2. Let's quit breathing for a day to reduce personal CO2 emissions..

                                    You first, I'll watch. And since I'm a registered republican, don't be surprised when me, and your wallet are gone when you wake up. As a consolation prize, I'll spend the rest of your life telling what to think, and how obviously dense you are if you dare to disagree with me.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #15.5 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

                                    Sorry Dave, I called dibs on going first on the breath holding thing. As far as your wallet goes, I will be sure and give what ever is in it to the United Nations, after all that is where good global warmers want our money to go anyway.

                                    As for as spending rest of your life telling me what to think... aren't you already doing that?

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #15.6 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:18 PM EDT
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                                    i spent 2 months in hamburg n.y. and experienced the lake effect snowstorms many times. during one storm along lake erie i saw a horizontal cyclone along the shores of the lake. will never forget it. while this weather can produce great beauty it is often life threatening. hats off to the people who can thrive in this climate. it was my cue to move to san diego and now i get mildly irritated with drivers who can't drive in our rare rain storms. they wouldn't survive long in real weather. it's a good life here!

                                    • 3 votes
                                    Reply#16 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:50 AM EDT

                                    Well, hopefully at least, you won't die of thirst. I'd rather have a freak snow dump than go months on end without a drop of precip.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    Reply#17 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:51 AM EDT

                                    the beev---water here is very expensive -both the bottled and tap water. yes we have our share of problems but with the sun shining almost everyday and so much free entertainment- such as whale and dolphin watching- we find much to enjoy. weather rarely stands in the way of doing what you want to do.

                                      #17.1 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:44 PM EDT
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                                      good grief, now we'll have all the people in Bradford, PA stand up (once again) and claim they have the worst winters in all of North America (again).

                                      Anyone recall the contest on the Weather Channel in February of 2011? Bradfordians claimed their climate was the most extreme in all of the United States, even more so than Fairbanks, AK; Fargo, ND and Minneapolis, MN. Even Denver has "more extremes" than Bradford.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      Reply#18 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:58 AM EDT

                                      What's funny is that there are many people that actually BELIEVE that they understand the weather. They actually believe that they can understand a system that is literally made up over over a Google (that's 1 followed by a million zeros) of moving parts.

                                      "It's not that liberals are ignorant, it's that they know so much that isn't so." (Ronald Reagan)

                                      They think they can say with certainty that a snowstorm here, and a drought there, and record highs down there, and tornadoes here, and a tsunami there .... all of that adds up to global warming. (Or climate change, whichever you prefer)

                                      Never mind that all of these conditions have been going on for a few billion years, they actually believe they can take a snapshot, one microsecond in the history of the universe, and can say with a straight face they know what's causing what.

                                      At least I'm smart enough to know that I'm not smart enough to understand something that is beyond me.

                                      • 5 votes
                                      Reply#19 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

                                      Your definition of google is incorrect. The number 10 raised to the power googol, written out as the numeral 1 followed by 10100 zeros which is still not what you claim. Try googleing it next time

                                      Read more: #ixzz1ssjODXk2

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #19.1 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:29 PM EDT

                                      Things like heavy rainfall in some places, droughts in other places, may be symptoms of warming; the evidence for global warming itself is in the actual temperature record ... 2010 - tied global high temperature record set in 2005 (NOAA data); 2011 - warmest La Nina year on record; ocean heat content measured between 0 and 2,000 meters steadily rising (NOAA/NODC data).

                                        #19.2 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:22 PM EDT
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                                        Reading stories like this always remind me why I moved away from the northeast to the southwest. Tons of sunshine, low humidity, and no black flies/sand flies/greenhead flies/mosquitos. Excellent skiing a few hours away too, not to mention deep sea fishing/surfing/etc. I have NEVER regretted it.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#20 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:06 PM EDT

                                        All true but you had some fierce sandstorms not too long ago.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #20.1 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:23 PM EDT
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                                        I'm packing the snow in my garage gettin ready for global warming.

                                        • 6 votes
                                        Reply#21 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

                                        i live in rochester ny,and im glad we got some snow! hopefully it will kill plenty of mosquito larve.they say it is gonna be the worst year for allergies and insects.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#22 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

                                        this is going to kill all the apple blossoms apples they bloomed early

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#23 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:14 PM EDT

                                        Jimee J, the Secret Service doesn't do racism. Now they've been known to 'race' into Columbian cat houses. They are too much like cops; they want it for free.

                                          Reply#24 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:23 PM EDT

                                          Forget Global Warming! The Mayans predicted all of this! The end of the world is coming!

                                          Quick, find salvation, donate all your worldly possessions to charity, and embrace Jesus/Judaism/Muhammad/Krishna/Buddha/Flying Spaghetti Monster/Other! Repent, and give it all away, so that you may reach paradise!

                                          Send checks payable to Matt-3468366...

                                          • 6 votes
                                          Reply#25 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:27 PM EDT

                                          What's your recommended donation amount, so I know what to write it out for.....how about I just make it blank?

                                            #25.1 - Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:42 PM EDT
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