Florida shooter Zimmerman needs protection while out on bail, lawyer says

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George Zimmerman, center, speaks with his attorney Mark O'Mara, right, during a bond hearing in front of a judge at the Seminole County Courthouse in Sanford, Florida, April 20. Zimmerman has pleaded not-guilt to second-degree murder in the February shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

The defense attorney representing George Zimmerman, the Florida man charged with second degree murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, said his client was wearing a bulletproof vest when released on bail Monday morning, due to continued threats to his client in the emotionally charged case, WESH-TV reported Tuesday.

Mark O'Mara also said he was considering seeking a taxpayer-funded bodyguard for Zimmerman if the threats continue, according to the report.

"The way this case has been portrayed, he's guilty until proven innocent, and people are so inflamed against him, he has to be protected, and that's a shame," O'Mara said, speaking to WESH, an NBC-affiliated station in Orlando, Fla.

Zimmerman pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder in the shooting death of Martin, an unarmed 17-year-old who was walking to his father’s fiancee's home in a gated community in Sanford, Fla.  Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch captain, said he acted in self-defense in the Feb. 26 encounter.


Zimmerman was not charged for more than six weeks, sparking nationwide protests and a debate about race and equity in the justice system. Zimmerman, 28, is white and Hispanic; Martin was black.

An attorney representing the Martins also spoke to WESH to discourage any vigilantism against Zimmerman.

"They don't condone it. They don't want it," said Martin family attorney Natalie Jackson. "If that's what (others) are doing, please stop."

Also on Tuesday, O’Mara blasted a Twitter account pretending to be Zimmerman's for trying to incite anger against his client.

One fake tweet suggested Zimmerman was seeking permission to carry a gun, which was false, O'Mara said. "That's disgusting and should be prosecuted," he told WESH.

Twitter policies do allow parody accounts, but users are told to make it clear that they are not the real person, which O'Mara says was not done in this case.

"It's somebody out there saying, 'Let’s drum up more passion against George and here's how I'll do it'," O’Mara said.

Zimmerman's arraignment is on May 8. He waived his right to be present.

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"....he's guilty until proven innocent....".......well, well...isn't this getting a taste of your own medicine?? Pretty hard to swallow what you were dishing out huh...??!

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Reply#27 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:20 PM EDT

There is no evidence to your claim that Zimmerman was the one that approached first-please get the facts before you offer an opinion-Zimmerman called police when he saw someone suspicious-Cops asked if he was following-Zimmerman said he was -police told him not to do that-Zimmerman said OKAY and then starts telling police where he can meet them-NOW think if you were going to kill someone would you tell police before you did the act and where you were at-NO- Trayvon attacked Zimmerman while Zimmerman was heading back to his vehicle

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#27.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:33 PM EDT

oi812..... "you should get the facts before you offer an opinion"

YOU didn't get your facts before you stated zim told them where to meet him. WRONG. He told the 911 dispatcher to call him when they arrive & he would give them his location. This is soooo Typical zimmer supporter behavior. ALWAY accusing people with opposing viewpoints from theirs of not stating facts when they're doing the same thing & their misinformation is usually intentional, to spin & twist the truth in george's favor!!!!!!!! '"DOUBLE-STANDARD"..........."HYPOCRISY"

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#27.2 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:22 AM EDT

They should have kept his ass in jail...

For his own protection, of course....

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#27.3 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

Jo-An......agreed. jail is the ONLY place this murderer belongs!

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#27.4 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:59 PM EDT

reealitycheck,

What NERVE this guy has!!

He should ask his "supporters" to guard him! They deserve each other!

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#27.5 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:57 AM EDT

JoAn........Yes they DO deserve each other. That comment is tooooooo hilarious!!!!!! I'm getting the visual.....all these gullible idots surrounding their idol "chicken george" by the thousands, vowing to take a bullet for him.

@trustverify...... hahahahahahahahah.... don't want YOU laughing hyenas to feel left out!!!!

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#27.6 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:21 AM EDT

reealitycheck

@trustverify...... hahahahahahahahah.... don't want YOU laughing hyenas to feel left out!!!!

The problem when one steps into the middle of a conversation is they have no context. The laughing hyena is Jo-An. She has a habit of one word responses followed by LOL and only when she has an audience. But so be it.

    #27.7 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:17 PM EDT
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    Of course he needs protection after the libtard MEDIA whipped up the DUMBEST among us turning them into a lynch mob. They talk about "the child," when "the child" was built like a football player. Clearly they (ABC, NBC etc) could give a damn about the silly old...facts. If some "child" jumped me from behind, and I had a gun or knife, I'd use it on "the child" as well! The reality is, if this were the other way around, i.e. a black man defended himself against an attacking white, it would not be ... "NEWS," and most THINKING people know it!

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    Reply#28 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:22 PM EDT

    Dan: Maybe you should check your facts.Trayvon's brother and father both said it was him screaming.As for the two experts being a joke,the complete opposite is true.They are both court certified and have been doing this for 20 years.And I am sure Angela Corey has more experts at her disposal so I am equally sure there will be more experts to say the same thing when this gets to trial.

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    Reply#29 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:23 PM EDT

    Maria

    What about the eye witness who says that it was Zimmerman calling for help?

    You haven't answered my question.

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    #29.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:27 PM EDT

    I did check my facts Maria. I have done more on this case then i should. Tracy Martin said that was NOT HIS SON on the first playback of the 911 tape confirmed by the local news station AND the SPD. Yeah AFTER the $$$ train showed up this its "Oh wait that's my son"..... You missed the bond hearing where the "experts" including the joker in the orlando sentienal have been confirmed they they cannot confirm or DENY that it is GZ on the 911 call. It sounds to me that it is GZ based on the audio I have heard of TM. Face it the sample is not valid or good enough quality to judge. Your using that as a "well its not GZ" versus the FACT they cannot tell if it is or not.... Glad your not on trial for your life....

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    #29.2 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:30 PM EDT

    Where did you check, you didn't say what your source was.

      #29.3 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:10 PM EDT

      Where did you check, you didn't say what your source was.

      don't hold your breath!

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      #29.4 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:59 PM EDT
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      I hear they make bullet-proof hoodies now.....

        Reply#30 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:25 PM EDT

        Wow,I love it.Maybe decorate the bullet proof hoodie with skittles.

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        #30.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:29 PM EDT

        LOL...

          #30.2 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:00 PM EDT

          A little pricey but it is MADE IN THE USA.

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          #30.4 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:35 PM EDT
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          Dan: Your a funny man.Who is it that says Trayvon started the fight ? At the bond hearing it was stated they were not sure who started the fight,so again Zim instigated this whole thing and killed a teen.

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          Reply#31 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:27 PM EDT

          Maria

          Now if NOBODY knows who started the fight,how can you say it was Zimmerman? Were you there?

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          #31.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:29 PM EDT

          God are you really that indifferent?!?! Um GZ says TM started the fight. The prosuction said they have NO WITNESSES and CANNOT PROVE who started the fight. God seriously how do you say GZ started this?? He was at the OTHER END OF THE COMPLEX.... You just don't want to see the facts in front of you. Much like most. If you take 5 minutes to just look at this objectively and lose the "skittles and ice tea" mentality for a second you can see that this was a tragedy of a young man angry and being followed who came and assault someone and WOULD NOT STOP after being confronted by another individual and someone yelling for help for about a minute. Problem is that someone had a gun....

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          #31.2 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:35 PM EDT

          angry AT being followed who came back UP and assaulted someone. Can't edit my statement now...

            #31.3 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:51 PM EDT

            Maria

            You are a funny woman, You haven't studied in the right places. Dan said T's dad said it wasn't T screaming. Bet you don't know he said that the very NEXT day after T died (you probably think T's dad didn't know where he was for 3 days). And you don.t know that T approached G's vehicle BEFORE G ever got out. Your problem is you want G to be guilty and therefore you refuse to wait for ALL the facts

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            #31.4 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:14 PM EDT

            Right, Dan. Trayon walked up behind Zimmerman and punched him in the nose. That could only occur if Zimmerman's nose was on the back of his head.

            Jim, so what? The experts ran the audio and used the Zimmerman's 911 recording as a comparison. It was less than a 50% match when it has to be at least a 90% match. Unless there was a third person present then it had to have been Trayvon screaming that night.

            Also Zimmerman would have to be completely stupid to get out of his vehicle if Trayvon had already approached him. Zimmerman was looking for trouble that night.

            What's funny is that Zimmerman is on record as having told three completely different versions of events that night. I guess you will find one that you like most.

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            #31.5 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:39 AM EDT
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            For the one's that are still taking Martin's side you are all still very ignorant and racist people just waiting to riot and get free stuff because you are all worthless !!!! Open your eyes !!!!

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            Reply#32 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:28 PM EDT

            It is you that needs to open your eyes.Not to worry,Angela Corey will make you see the light when your boy gets on the stand.She will rip him apart.

              #32.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:35 PM EDT

              Really. Seems to me like O'meara ripped the prosecution to shreds. Dershowitz has said that Angela could be guilty of fraud and misconduct. Angela and her office may have charges filed against them if she doesn't present something else. If something comes out that PROVES GZ did this in "cold blood" like you all some richly want to believe then fine send him to jail for life. EVERYTHING at this point shows he did nothing more than defend himself against someone who was bigger and stronger and would not stop....

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              #32.2 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:39 PM EDT

              why would he need to get on the stand - they have to prove him guilty - GZ does not have to prove his innocence

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              #32.3 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:40 PM EDT

              Maria-2595762

              It is you that needs to open your eyes.Not to worry,Angela Corey will make you see the light when your boy gets on the stand.She will rip him apart.

              First he isn't our "boy". No more than TM is your "boy".

              What makes you think George will ever need to take the stand... The defense already scored points at the bail hearing and got the prosecution witness to admit there is NO EVIDENCE as to who started the fight. AC needs to PROVE it was not a justified self defense with evidence then she needs to prove beyond a reasonable doubt the charges she has filed. I think even you admit 2nd degree murder is a reach with what we know so far including the bond hearing.

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              #32.4 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:46 PM EDT

              armed, you seriously need some help.

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              #32.5 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:13 PM EDT

              Allison you are still stuck on what the media wants you to believe !!!! Educate yourself before saying I need help !! Oh wait I guess you are one of the one's waiting to go loot and get your freebee's !!!!!

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              #32.6 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:27 PM EDT
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              Zimmerman has made a mistake and he is going to pay the ultimate price for his mistake. Jeffery Daumer was a young white man who was convicted of killing and eating a lot of men of color and he met a terrible fate while locked up in prison. Zimmerman is dead either as a civilian or as an inmate. I do feel sorry for him though. It shows you how easy it is to get caught up in mess. My folks used to always tell me how to act around police and also to remember that it is easy to get in trouble but very hard to get out of it.

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              Reply#33 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:31 PM EDT

              Slodon:Maybe you can't read,I did answer it.I don't know of one,not one witness that says it was Zim.Only John Doe saying Trayvon was on top.And even if he did say it,there are two more that say just the opposite.And two experts with 20 years experience also say it was NOT Zim.

                Reply#34 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:32 PM EDT

                Maria

                What two say it was Martin on the bottom?

                But one man's testimony could be key for the police.

                "The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: 'help, help…and I told him to stop and I was calling 911," he said.

                Trayvon Martin was in a hoodie; Zimmerman was in red.

                The witness only wanted to be identified as "John," and didn't not want to be shown on camera.

                His statements to police were instrumental, because police backed up Zimmerman's claims, saying those screams on the 911 call are those of Zimmerman.

                http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012

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                #34.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:33 PM EDT

                Maria-all the evidence points to Trayvon on top of Zimmerman-there are no facts that shows Zimmerman was the one that approached Trayvon-it shows Trayvon attacked Zimmerman and got shot once Zimmerman feared for his life-BUT-there may be more evidence that we do not know yet-BUT WAIT for more evidence before passing judgement on Zimmerman

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                #34.2 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:37 PM EDT

                LOL. Oi, tells us definitely that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman then instructs Maria to wait for all of the evidence to come out. Hypocrite much?

                There is supposedly this one witnesss who won't show his face on tv. Besides eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable and it was dark and rainy that night so it will be interesting to find out who this person is.

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                #34.3 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:16 PM EDT
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                If he had been a black female nothing would be said but he is the wrong gender and race so he is wrong. no trial needed just hang him.

                  Reply#35 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:34 PM EDT

                  Bean, maybe it has to do with the fact that Zimmerman has admitted shooting and killing Trayvon and now it's on him to prove that he did this in self-defense.

                    #35.1 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:18 PM EDT
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                    Slodon:the two women that stated it that night and also on national TV.So if they can't prove who started it then I guess Zim was the aggressor because he followed him.The two women's statements are also part of the record.You keep believing,all the way to prison for your boy.

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                    Reply#36 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:37 PM EDT

                    Maria-I have been following this since day one and know of no women that claim Zimmerman was on top-what is your source????

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                    #36.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:39 PM EDT

                    Umm you have no idea about how the law works. Following someone does not make you an "aggressor". Do you know anything about the law. Guess what... I can follow you in public if I want to... You can get uneasy about it and tell me to get lost.. Call the cops... Run away.. whatever.... Guess what you CANT do. You CANNOT ASSAULT me. Why people have this attitude amazes me....

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                    #36.2 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:41 PM EDT

                    I have never heard about two women eye witnesses. There is one woman who has sheltered her 13 year old son who is a supposed witness. That is the only woman witness I have heard about. Please supply a link for the other.

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                    #36.3 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:42 PM EDT

                    The only witnesses that saw him on "top" was after the shot... DUH....

                      #36.4 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:42 PM EDT

                      These two star witnesses were also so concerned about the "whining" of a "child" they didn't bother to look outside or call 911 until AFTER the shot... Hmm 7 other people were freaking out about the guy screaming his head off for help. Those 2 woman are a joke. They heard and SAW nothing....

                        #36.5 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:48 PM EDT

                        There ARE TWO WITNESSES. One male and one female. "John" states red on the bottom. The woman states the larger person on top. Her story is here

                        http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/07/video-eyewitness-to-the-trayvon-martin-shooting-speaks-out/

                          #36.6 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:50 PM EDT

                          Trust the 13 year old boy also said GZ was on the bottom until his mom got a hold of him....

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                          #36.7 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:56 PM EDT

                          "fox fear factory" has, once again, dispatched their gang-bangers-of hate out to hijack the forum discussions once again. That fox link explains where all this "lynch Trayvon EVEN if he's dead" & praise zimmer for murdering him" mentality is coming from....Hahahahahahhahahaha a link to fox's spin & lies.........still trying to con the masses with their BS.

                          @maria you're wasting your intelligence trying to reason with people with bigotted minds........

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                          #36.8 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:54 AM EDT

                          reealitycheck

                          "fox fear factory" has, once again, dispatched their gang-bangers-of hate out to hijack the forum discussions once again. That fox link explains where all this "lynch Trayvon EVEN if he's dead" & praise zimmer for murdering him" mentality is coming from....Hahahahahahhahahaha a link to fox's spin & lies.........still trying to con the masses with their BS.

                          @maria you're wasting your intelligence trying to reason with people with bigotted minds........

                          That's for sure!

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                          #36.9 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

                          reealitycheck

                          "fox fear factory" has, once again

                          Hey feel free to attack the witness that SEES THINGS your way. I would happily discount the witness that CLAIMS the bigger guy who was the shooter was on top. So we have two acclaimed witnesses and the 13 year old boy who may or may not have seen the fight.

                          I see the laughing hyena is back making no factual contribution.

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                          #36.10 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

                          @trustverify........"I see the laughing hyena is back making no factual contribution"

                          I'm shocked your puppet master "fox fear channel" allowed you to confess this info about yourself.....Good news is tonight you'll probably sleep like a baby BECAUSE "truth" confession is great for the soul. Bad news is they'll probably re-schedule you for an "intensive re-programming" session!!!!

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                          #36.11 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:38 PM EDT
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                          This case has mistrial written all over it

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                          Reply#37 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:39 PM EDT

                          He was wearing that vest because turnabout is fair play.

                          "an eye for an eye....."

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                          Reply#38 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:39 PM EDT

                          how is it an eye for an eye when someone is beating you to death that started the fight and you defend yourself???

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                          #38.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:40 PM EDT

                          qi812 no one cares about the facts here. Face it GZ was a cold blooded murder who called the cops and knew they were on his way so he would have an air tight alibi... Yeah that makes perfect sense.....

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                          #38.2 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:44 PM EDT

                          It sure does make sense Dan. And also telling the 911 Op "call him on his phone when backup arrives to get his location"- which says he's on the move. I put absolutely nothing past this devious liar!!!! Notice how he lost all that weight since he was shown going into the police station the night he murdered Trayvon........He probably went on a "food fast" to drop those pounds so he couldn't fit the description of being the "larger person on top". Any trick in the book to keep from being the flavor of the year behind bars!!!!!!!!

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                          #38.3 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:04 AM EDT
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                          I really wish we could stop playing the race card for once! People are horrible to each other and that's it. Has anyone noticed that when the victim is black, it gets labeled a "hate crime" and the whole world has to hear about it ad nauseum and the public threatens anyone who might want the defendant to be considered innocent until proven guilty?

                          Furthermore, I'm really against the sensationalization of these kind of things because of the way it makes colored people look. Stories like this imply that white people are almost never criminals so the story deserves extra attention. It also implies that black people are rarely victims. We don't see as many over-sensationalized cases like this where the perpetrator is black and we know there is a lot of crime; it leads to the possible conclusion that the reason for the extra attention is there are just too many colored people committing hate crimes to report all of them! All of these assumptions are false, but the media perpetuates them every chance it gets! Martin Luther King Jr. would be ashamed of the sort of disrespect being pinned on colored folks by this kind of reporting.

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                          Reply#39 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:43 PM EDT

                          is there any reason GZ would need to testify? he's not required to, how would the prosecutor tear him apart if he isn't going to testify

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                          Reply#40 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:43 PM EDT

                          I hope he doesn;t testify because this gets tossed at pre-trial.... I don't think anyone is going to do anything even if he does testify. Problem is the man spoke for FIVE HOURS to the police and didn't change his story once... Who remembers what they said exactly yesterday let alone for 5 hours. If ONE statement was just slightly different because jesus the guy is in SHOCK he just killed someone and his head is busted up with a broken nose you will all try and eviscerate him. Do you all forget the SPD and the DA already said this guy was not guilty.....

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                          #40.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:46 PM EDT

                          You're wrong, dan. You must have missed the bond hearing last Friday when the PA stated that Zimmerman gave at least three versions of his story. Maybe you need to take your own advice and read up some.

                          Also the lead investigator wanted Zimmerman arrested on at least manslaughter charges because he didn't believe Zimmerman's account.

                          As for Zimmerman having his head busted open then why didn't the EMTs not even bandage the back of his head nor did Zimmerman go to the hospital immediately after the incident. According to his brother they waited until the next morning.

                          Furthermore shortly after Zimmerman shot Trayvon Zimmerman contacted a neighbor and after the neighbor arrived Zimmerman asked the neighbor to call his wife and tell her that he had shot someone. Then Zimmerman had the neighbor take pictures of his head wound.

                          For someone who had his head slammed against the sidewalk multiple times he sure was thinking clearly.

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                          #40.2 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:53 AM EDT
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                          If a coon was trying to kill me I would want to take it out too...He was looking for another house to break in and was spotted by Zimmerman...then attacked him...one down and millions to go...baby steps...

                            Reply#41 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:44 PM EDT

                            i don't understand how people could be saying we don't know all the facts and then support GZ 100%...he killed the other side of the story...SO HOW THE HECK CAN YOU SAY HE WAS DEFENDING HIMSELF WHEN YOU DON"T HAVE THE FACTS!!....and dan 1213... imma 19 year old female would it be wrong if i defended myself if a unknown male was following me?

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                            Reply#42 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:50 PM EDT

                            imma 19 year old female would it be wrong if i defended myself if a unknown male was following me?

                            How about a 40 year old woman?

                              #42.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:55 PM EDT

                              imma 19 year old female would it be wrong if i defended myself if a unknown male was following

                              Being followed does NOT allow you to commit battery. In FL you could not even brandish or claim to have a weapon without being convicted and spending 3 years in jail without parole... under FL law. You could ask why they were following or even call 9-1-1. Instead tm called his girlfriend.

                              SO HOW THE HECK CAN YOU SAY HE WAS DEFENDING HIMSELF WHEN YOU DON"T HAVE THE FACTS!!....

                              At lease one witness states the man in red (later identified as george) was on the bottom and the other person was on top beating him about the face. Tell us as 19 year old woman what you would do if a 6'3 football player was beating on your head/face. Somehow I don't think you would accept a dinner date.

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                              #42.2 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:58 PM EDT

                              I noticed that neither of you even attepted to give an answer to Christina's question, why is that?

                              @Christina, no you and I both know you wouldn't be wrong if some nameless, faceless, strange sob followed you on a dark rainy night and attempted to stop and question you...he could be a gun totting nut job. How would you know what his intentions were toward you?

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                              #42.3 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:19 PM EDT

                              They sound so retarded when they defend him. So if someone's in florida and is trying to kidnap or rape someone. It's bad for the person to fight back? They should just get rapped and killed? Really listen to what you're saying. Doesn't matter what weight and ht someone is, they shouldnt be stalked and scared they might die. Have you ever been stocked before? I have and it scares the @!$%# out of you if its dark.

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                              #42.4 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:32 AM EDT

                              At lease one witness states the man in red (later identified as george) was on the bottom and the other person was on top beating him about the face

                              That doesn't mean Martin started the altercation.

                              If Zimmerman shot Martin while he was on top of him, why was there no blood on Zimmerman's shirt when he was taken to the police station? Magic shirt or Clorox bleach pen?

                              http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-zimmerman-video-20120329,0,7952997.story

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                              #42.5 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:36 PM EDT

                              That doesn't mean Martin started the altercation.

                              I never stated who started the fight. Really wish everyone would take statements in context. That has been a LARGE issue on this forum.

                              If Zimmerman shot Martin while he was on top of him, why was there no blood on Zimmerman's shirt when he was taken to the police station? Magic shirt or Clorox bleach pen?

                              A gunshot does not HAVE to bleed out or splatter all that much. At least two layers of clothing on Tryavon. Point blank shooting. They are called powder BURNS for a reason. The bullet hole at entry would be the size of a DIME and likely cauterized initially. Trayvon was likely dead in less than a heartbeat. With no BP there would be very little blood leaking out and most would be in the clothing he was wearing. George MIGHT get a little splatter on him but again mostly contained by Trayvons body and clothing.

                              We've all seen the video of George at the Police Station that night. It didn't show his head injuries yet they still existed. I am fairly certain the jacket he has on in the video doesn't have stripes yet the video shows those. I can't even make out the logo on his left side.. can you in the video?

                                #42.6 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:33 PM EDT
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                                He will most definitely testify,unless his attorney is inept.As for the two women:Their names are Mary Cutcher and Selma Mora.Not all of the investigators said he was not guilty,in fact the lead said just the opposite.As for Zim's fairy tale story,it is just that,a fairy tale.He's going to prison,no doubt.

                                  Reply#43 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:51 PM EDT

                                  why would he need to get on the stand? he's already told his side to the police... a defendent does not have to testify at his trial - sorry, no chance AC gets to tear him a part

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                                  #43.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:54 PM EDT

                                  maria are they eye witnesses.. saw the fight.. or just heard the scuffle outside? See my earlier post on the ONE woman eyewitness and "John"

                                    #43.2 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:00 PM EDT

                                    We can only hope.

                                      #43.3 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:42 AM EDT
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                                      If a person was sneaking around your property an you called 911 they would say wait for the police an dont follow him, by the time the police got there you could be dead. that was just a suggestion by a 911 operator . I would have followed him too till he left the neighborhood. under florida law if you had approached me because I was following you an punched me in the nose, I could legally kill you. Thats the law, but dont worry, zimmerman will spend the rest of his life in jail bacause the jurors will be scared for their lives if they let him go..... wish I was black, white people could care less if a white person gets killed......

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                                      Reply#44 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:51 PM EDT

                                      Paul, this was not Zimmerman's property. The sidewalk is a public space and Zimmerman could have been dead? Really?

                                      Zimmerman was safe inside his SUV and Trayvon was on foot. You do know that any vehicle (unless it's a Yugo) can be used as a weapon and since Zimmerman's vehicle was in working order he could have left at any time if he felt threatenened.

                                      On further reading I hope your post was sarcasm.

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                                      #44.1 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:46 AM EDT
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                                      .................... He also admitted to the 911 operator he was following the kid...

                                      When is everyone going to stop calling Martin a KID!

                                      Showing 13 year old pictures is not proof of Martin good charter.

                                      If this goes to trail, just maybe all of this up-to-date pictures will come out.

                                      It will be fun listening to all of these people tell stories about this little KID.

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                                      Reply#45 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:53 PM EDT

                                      BashFulRabbit: But he still pulled the trigger.

                                      What are you some illiterate moron. If I were getting my head beat in, by some punk. Yes I would pull the trigger. If you don't want to pull the trigger yourself, then I guess you will die then. Your choice, MORON.

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                                      Reply#46 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:53 PM EDT

                                      The animals pictured below car-jacked then raped Christopher Newsom, cut off his penis, set him on fire and fatally shot him several times while they forced his girlfriend, Channon Christian, to watch. An even more cruel fate awaited her!

                                      Channon Christian was beaten and gang-raped in many ways for four days by all of them, while they took turns urinating on her. They cut off her breasts and put chemicals in her mouth... and then murdered her.

                                      Knoxville (WVLT) - The District Attorney General of Knox County announced the list of charges facing now five suspects in the double murderof Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom.

                                      The District Attorney General Randy Nichols is not saying whether or not he will seek the death penalty, but he does say the State will seek conviction for all charges filed in a 24-page indictment from the Knox County Grand Jury. Lemaricus Davidson, 25 , faces a total of 46 charges.. Letalvis Cobbins, 24 , faces a total of 46 charges. George Thomas, 24 , faces a total of 46 charges. Vanessa Coleman, 18 , faces 40 Tennessee state charges. Eric Boyd, 24 , also arrested in connection with the fatal car jacking, only faces federal charges as an accessory after the fact.

                                      SO!!!!! Where's Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson? Are they providing counsel and help to the families of the victims?

                                      Of course not - the victims were white

                                      Why hasn't this received National coverage by the news media like the Trayvon Martin case in Florida

                                      Oh, that's right - the victims were white

                                      Why hasn't the NAACP, ACLU, New York Times etc., called for an investigation?

                                      Must be cause the victims were white

                                      Why hasn't the FBI been called in to investigate this as a hate crime?

                                      Oh, that's right - the victims were white'

                                      So, if a white radio shock jock uses the phrase 'Nappy headed'Ho, it gets 2 weeks of constant news coverage.

                                      If two white people are tortured, raped, and murdered by a group of black people, it barely gets a blip in the news.

                                      Pass this around, and maybe, just maybe, it will land in the hands of someone in the media or politics, that has the guts to stand up for the white people!! Or don't because you don't have the guts either!!

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                                      Reply#47 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:58 PM EDT

                                      How many times to you Zimmerdummies have to be told why this case sparked outrage before it sinks through your thick skulls?

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                                      #47.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:10 PM EDT

                                      Really! There was an investigation and arrests, and charges! How do those small details still seem to be out of your grasp?

                                        #47.2 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:16 PM EDT

                                        Jeff Butler - I saw this story on one of those crime shows on Investigation Discovery (cable ID). It was a horrendous story. I, too, wondered why it didn't make national news. Those who speak loudest are heard.

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                                        #47.3 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:51 AM EDT
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                                        It is hard not to appreciate the bitter irony.So many young men are adrift these days.Particularly young AA males.Who knows what really happened?GZ I guess.Nothing will change until people change.It will take economic recovery for our culture to rebound.

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                                        Reply#48 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:00 PM EDT

                                        I do not think it was prudent for the court to forbid him from having access to a firearm and then announce it publicly. He's now a sitting duck and a defenseless one at that, even in his new home.

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                                        Reply#49 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:01 PM EDT

                                        Kevin, considering it was Zimmerman's imprudent use of firearms which has us where we are today I believe that it would have been better for him to have stayed behind bars.

                                        But I don't feel sorry for him. Maybe now he will feel the terror he made Trayvon feel for those seconds that Trayvon begged for his life but Zimmerman decided to take it anyway.

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                                        #49.1 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:59 AM EDT
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                                        Everyone should be happy to see he is going through the courts. Now have the respect for the system to verify or deny his innocents.

                                        Now arrest New Black Panthers (NBP) for threats on Zimmerman. Also arrest Jesse, Sharpton, Holder, and Obama for instigating a race riot and supporting NBP.

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                                        Reply#50 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:03 PM EDT

                                        STOP THE RACE WAR BEFORE IT STARTS........... once started it wil not be easy to put out... it is smoldering and the news is drooling... waiting... they want it. good for ratings.

                                        If they (blacks ) start a race war to shut down the voting i will not be surprised. On that note i figure i will be in enemy territory and will defend my family as if in war time.

                                        i do pray all races come to their senses but people like the black panthers putting a hit and not being punished ASAP shows the way this country is headed. SAD.......

                                        20 blacks almost killed a white guy the other day and they warrant this for travon....

                                        When should we as Americans get fed up with this @!$%#.

                                        signed

                                        an American son

                                        my colors dont run.

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                                        Reply#51 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:03 PM EDT
                                        rlibertoDeleted

                                        If they (blacks ) start a race war

                                        Ya'll are always worried that someone else will do what you've done historically. Or plan to do!

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                                        #51.2 - Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:22 PM EDT

                                        It wont last long.

                                          #51.3 - Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:38 AM EDT
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