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Subscribe to RSSJessica Evers survived a shooting while still in the womb during the 1992 Los Angeles riots. John Cadiz Klemack reports.
Twenty years ago, amid the shock of the ongoing Los Angeles riots, there was a story that really grabbed headlines: The youngest victim of the violence had been shot while still in her mother’s womb.
On April 30, 1992, Elvira Evers, then 7 ½-months pregnant, watched her Compton block fill with vehicles laden with stolen loot. The nearby swap meet had turned into a free-for-all.
As she waited for her eldest son to come home that night, she pushed her 5-year-old daughter Nela into her home.
“I started getting nervous,” Elvira Evers said.
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A minute later, she felt like her body was aflame. She’d been shot in the belly.
Amid the chaos occurring all over the South Los Angeles region, it would have taken 40 minutes for an ambulance to arrive, so a friend drove Evers to St. Francis Medical Center. She had an emergency caesarean section and didn’t wake up for a week.
When she finally opened her eyes, still in the hospital, she instantly began to cry.
“And I was just like, oh, my God, my baby,” Evers said.
A nurse came to her side, asking, “Why are you crying?”
Evers thought she’d lost her baby. But she hadn’t, and the nurse took mother to child.
“I saw the baby and I touched her and I cried and I cried,” Evers said.
Today, Evers has a hidden mark from the 9 mm bullet that injured her. Her daughter, Jessica, now almost 20, has just a scar on her elbow.
Evers said the experience changed her, made her appreciate life more. Every year, every birthday, she remembers the riots and the circumstances of Jessica’s birth.
“I get sad. Because 20 years ago, I was supposed to be dead. So I have to give God thanks,” Elvira Evers said.
As for Jessica Evers, she feels her survival was for a purpose, one she’s still trying to understand.
“As each day goes by,” Evers said, “I try to find out what I’m here for.”
Despite her amazing story, Jessica said she doesn't see herself as all that special.
"I'm innocent, but then again there are other innocent people that got hurt too," she said.
Twenty years later, there's one thing Jessica can say with confidence: "I'm still here."
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Sweet story.
Yep .... and this should also put a stop to the people who say MSN doesn't report black-on-black crime, even if it happened 20 years ago.
Well where did you read that someone black shot her or are you making a racist assumption based on location?
Just got back from Denver. Weather was fantastic!!
It's pretty unlikely that a white person was frolicking through a black neighborhood during a typical black riot. Blacks don't take kindly to white strangers.
Whats worse than a puff piece? A 20 year old puff piece! Come on MSN give us some real news!
Maybe this is a reminder of how racially charged our country can become. Those riots where scary for everyone involved. Innocent people all over Southern California got hurt. I remember this story reminded me of the blessings in the world, in a time where everything was crazy and hate ran wild.
TXHorseman,
If you know of any white people who were rioting in Compton in 1992, I will be happy to revise my theory ... the cops who beat Rodney King don't count. And I'm glad you liked the Denver weather. I'm kinda fond of it myself.
dirtydog are yoiu telling me that black people are racist?
Denver, You miss my point. I think what you said is just a bit far out there on this one. If we are going to accuse Fox of leaning to the right, then certainly we must also be honest about MSN.
Denver Bill 2... could we say that MSN doesn't report black on black crimes unless it is 20 years old?
It's a story of surviving despite the odds against you. If you didn't like the story, we the commenters don't care, so don't bother posting trolls. I thought it was a good story about something good coming out of something bad.
I agree. Hope, Faith and Courage always triumph! Nice to see a "good" story amid all the bad. I hope that that family continues to florish!
I'm glad this woman pulled through
but be that as it may, you apparently haven't noticed that MSN runs stort after story of that low-life loser Rodney King
...but no articles or interviews with Reginald Denny - or any of the other innocent white people we witnessed being dragged from their vehicles and beaten by rioting blacks on the streets of LA back when this occured
yea...this is really balanced reporting, alright
Thank god that the korean store owners knew how to shoot.
I lived in Compton most of my life. There are more Mexican/Spanish people there and quite a few Cambodians. This was not necessarily a black-on-black crime.
I was only 4-5 at the time so i dont remember what cause the riots all i remember is a bunch of asian stores gettting robed and burned.
denver bill 2 It's so much the black on black crime that doesn't get reported because it does but it's the black on white crime that doesn't get reported. Did you here about ther story of the kid in Kansas City over a month ago that was doused in gasoline by two black youths and set on fire and told that's what you get white boy? Last year hundreds of blacks attacked whites leaving the Wisconson State Fair dragging some of them out of their cars and beating them? In either of those stories had the criminals been white those stories would have been all over the news for days if not weeks. There would have been marches and riots in the streets.
This is the MSN lead-up for what's coming in the wake of the Treyvon Martin case. There are no witnesses (well, two, but one is dead), so they really can't find Zimmerman guilty. Any reasonable doubt that he was really fighting for his life will acquit him. I'm not even stating my thoughts on guilt or innocence. I think Zimmerman's punishment (if there is any at all) will not be enough to make everyone happy and we will have some violence following a verdict.
This is just a case of Flash journalism at its best.
oh stop, don't you know obama is using this for a political platform? hey momma elvira, why are you bringing this up now? why did you wait so long? shame, what a shame.
caught: Ah because it's the 20th anniversary of these riots. She was probably contacted by the media. Your comment about Obama is simply ridiculous as well.
A bunch of off-topic threads about Trayvon Martin and abortion deleted, 1 and 9 were WalkWithMeInHell and Stephen-1876516 race-smearing; you're each suspended for a day for violating #5 of the Code of Honor.
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dirtydog200, You're suspended for a day for violating #5 as well. Try not to extrapolate smears to everyone in a race, folks. It's malicious and bad for discussion.
Yeah, especially when the leftist news media makes a daily effort to keep things stirred up, and reports non-stop "racism" stories.
Except the ones having a great time stealing televisions and looking for a "whitey" like Reginald Denny to try to kill.
Well, I hope you enjoyed it because the "diversity" that is turning this country into another third world nation will be accompanied by more of this type of typical violent, low I.Q. negro behavior.
Realist, What good came out of this? They survived? A 71/2 month old fetus and her mother were shot, just surviving isn't something good, they shouldn't have been shot in the first place. It reminds me of when someone is paralyzed people say "They're lucky they weren't killed!" No, luck would be not having been paralyzed in the first place. I'm glad they survived but get ready for the next riot if Zimmerman is acquitted.
I remeber this story from 20 years ago and wondered about what happened to the child later in life. Wow. It doesn't seem that long ago.
I also wondered what happened to Reginald Denny and that one young fellow who took time off from his looting to do a television interview. Seriously. he seemed like a real upbeat positive guy. he even showed what was in his basket and said he had taken the items to stand up for Rodney King. I can't be the only one who remembers him. He was a very happy go lucky kind of guy. Very cheerful.
Admit it, I am not the only one who chuckled at dirtydog's post.
Racism aside, it's ludicrous that people are suggesting the shooter wasn't black. It was black people rioting because of the Rodney King trial verdict. White cops beat a black criminal (I'd say it WAS police brutality), so they thought it was okay to destroy anything they saw. But it's not black logic, it's ghetto thug logic. An excuse to steal things.
This should remind us that the victims of violence and hatred are usually the innocent who just are in the way. And those who promote division and hatred should remember this case. Maybe that is the reason the baby survived. To remind us.
TXHorseman
Good catch TX :)
And about the story, well its a great story, and glad mother and daughter are fine. God bless.
And you're post just proved that low I.Q. behavior isn't just among "negros". People in glass houses..
This story gives me goose bumps. What a life altering event. I hope the best for mom and daughter. I wonder if they would speak at schools, show their scars and tell the young people exactly what happens when people act like fools.
That's a wonderful idea Rjw. Have them and other living victims of gang/riot violence to reach out to the schools. To teach the new and upcoming gang bangers of the consequences of their actions.
This is a touching story. I am very happy this young woman and her mother survived to tell the tale. I wish them both well. Nice to have some good news to read about.
All I can say in Praise Him. God Is truely amazing.
Yes, all praise be to God for her getting shot while still in the womb. Wait, what?
praise be....20 years on welfare!
Arney, youre a big fat dick!
blah to some of these commenters
@Arney, your ignorance is astounding! I guess that I missed the memo that I was supposed to be on welfare because I am . . . a single, black mother living in LA.
I learn so much about people by reading the comments on these articles. A lot of ignorance, racism, stupidity, uneducated and a little naivety go on in these posts. A very interesting study of cultural anthropology can be done here. "Welfare", "black on black crime", "people act like fools" - all examples of a total misunderstanding of the point of this article and the circumstances surrounding the LA riot; but all entertaining and good for a laugh.
@Erika,
Yeah, He's so amazing that He let someone shoot the baby while she's in the womb...wouldn't He be more amazing if He had just let her have a normal pregnancy and delivery? I'll never understand the religious wackos.
Also, learn to spell 'truly'.
My mother missed the memo too that she should have been on welfare because my fatherAKA the sperm donor walked out on her. Men
What is this world coming to, NBC caling a unborn child a baby and not a fetus, the writers will be fired over this. God had his hands on this Mother and Child, may He bless them both.
Jerry
If the child was fully developed enough to have been brought into the world that day, I would think the description of 'child' would be accurate enough.
God is pretty ineffective if he allowed them to get shot in the first place... just saying.
Ban handguns.
Why not just make it much more simple and ban heathens and stupid people?
fetus fetus fetus.... that's a funny word.
fetus fetus fetus.... that's a funny word.
FYI the most religious regions on the earth are the most stupid/uneducated and also have the highest levels of gun violence. The most secular regions of the earth are also the most educated and have the lowest rates of gun violence.
So maybe it would just be simpler to get rid of religion through education...
At 7 1/2 months its a baby. The last time I checked, doctors couldn't deliver a fetus.
I thought the same thing. If a "doctor" had dismembered the child(?) and thrown the pieces away all would have been happy and good, just another successful abortion!
The criminal rioters couldn't even perform an abortion correctly.
EngEsq,
Any sources for your ravings? Cool your hysteria.
do you just make up your "facts" as you go? It would sound better if you threw in some random percentages to make it appear you knew what you were talking about.
Have you ever heard of Hitler? Chairman Mao? Kim Jong? Pol Pot? and any leader of the former USSR. Extreamely secular but killed millions in the name fo improving the world and science. Problem is many times secular leaders think themselves god.
If you want to be a hater of something you obviously do not understand, please educate yourself first.
There is good and bad in both the secular and religious world.
You missed the point Jerry
TonyinWyo - The baby was at 30 weeks gestation putting her in the third trimester. Aborting a child at that point is illegal in every state. This is hardly a case to use for arguing abortion.
Hitler was christian, the others were party to bloody political upheavals. If we are attributing the history of all killings to the religion of the leader/regime then religion still has a leg up on the sheer volume of killings.
My point, however, was to illustrate that in our current world, religion, lack of education, and gun crime are co-morbid.
"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."
-Hitler
Hitler was really whacko, as Jesus was a Jew, and the Nazi Party, once in the schools, taught that Jesus was a bad boy who was disobedient to his parents (as reported by Maria von Trapp in her autobiography.)
@engesq, Not sure where you get your information, but that's not true.
Hitler was RAISED a Christian. He did not believe in Christianity, as he considered it to be an offshoot of Judaism. He wanted his people to Proclaim HIM as their god, their leader.
Of course if hitler obviously wasn't Christ-like.
"Love one another with brotherly affection."
Killing people isnt love.
Of course if hitler*
Griff, what part? That Hitler was christian? He certainly was, as was documented by this own speeches, writings, political tag-lines and actions.
Stalin, Pol Pot, Kim Jung, Mao, etc. killed a huge number of people (approximately 20-70 million). The number of these killings caused by atheism is 0. These killings were for power, not motivated by atheism. In contrast many millions of people have been killed for religion.
However, if the fact that these killings are by a secular government constitutes as being attributed to atheism, then any killing by any government that was religious is attributable to religion. In that case, it is estimated that governments have killed over 262 million people throughout history. So subtract the ones attributed from secular regimes and you still get 192 million attributed to religious governments.
However you analyze it, as long as you compare apples to apples, then religion consistently has more blood on its hands.
Skup
TonyinWyo - The baby was at 30 weeks gestation putting her in the third trimester. Aborting a child at that point is illegal in every state. This is hardly a case to use for arguing abortion.
Wrong! You likely haven't heard of the allowed partial birth late term abortions?
@Jerry- Yes, your god had his hands on these two but none of the others, like my father, who were killed in the L.A. riots. Yes, your god is soooo great he let two people live and 53 die. God is great! <sarcasm>
there is no god so he couldnt have had his hands on anything. god is a myth a fairytale people developed for something to believe in, and Christianity is the biggest moneymaking scam there is.
The first person to bring up Hitler looses.
Just a couple of observations.
1. Amazed no one has blamed Bush or Obama.
2. Happy for the mother and daughter.
3. It has occurred to me that Blacks are , for the most part, against abortion. Black women seem to love and cherish their children. Now, if they could just motivate their male counter parts. To all ladies, remind your friends, mostly male, that swag don't pay the bills.
4. There are so few feel good stories any more, why do some of you have to turn them into moral, ethical, religious debates?
Just sayin'.
I agree with mark stephens
Skup - As long as the fetus is in the womb it is just that - a fetus. Once it is "born" it is a baby. The length of the gestation has little to do with fetus/baby.
@EngEsq God gives people free will to make their own choices. How great would it be if he just made people follow him and worship him? And you must be an idiot if you think Hitler or any of those other evil dictators were Christians. If you read the Bible and look at Jesus's teachings, it is apparent that he preaches the exact opposite of what those dictators did and were doing. Therefore they were false Christians.
For all of you Hitler quoters, I don't think because he said something that it makes it so. He could have proclaimed himself king of the world, but it would still not be true. I have never known any Christians calling for the annihilation of Jews. I haven't met one, and if you have, I am glad I don't live in your part of the world.
Weasley,
Regardless, he considered himself Christian. God doesn't give you free will, because he doesn't exist. And if he did, and he gave you free will, what would be the point of worshipping him? You've been schooled many times over; religion is the cause of so much violence and death in the world. It's a bad thing, really. If people would use common sense and admit to themselves that they control their own destiny, the world would be a better place.
Jerry you missed the memo it is a fetus not worthy of life if the woman wants to abort. It is a second crime victim if somebody else does anything to cause its death. Logic does not exist in American law.
She seems like a lovely young woman. I wish her all the best!
Wonderful story, wonderful family, may they have happy and fulfilling lives.
Anyone who questions private gun ownership need only look to the LA Riots...businesses looted, people attacked in the streets, and the government was incapable of helping... It doesn't take much for the government to lose control and when it does, the only thing between a bunch of thugs wishing to do harm to you and yours is your 12 gauge shotgun... Molon Labe.
Perfectly said Dietrich, That's why my m&p45c stays on my hip everywhere i go. When seconds count, help is only minutes away.
Glad the fam is ok but i don't see how it is relevant today besides to keep the racist train rolling.
Of course, buddy...of course. I bet you know karate too, right? You're so badass it's incomprehensible!
Can you not read? I said I have a .45 so why the hell would i want to know the dane cook of martial arts? I dont need to know bull @!$%# KU RAT TEEE because i have a big ass gun.
You have so much free time its incomprehensible !!!!
SAVE THE COUNTRY VOTE REPUBLICAN #######################################3
That's exactly what I was thinking, RJ. Before all this "Trayvon wuz murdered" caterwauling is over with, I'm sure the entitlement folks will start up another riot, loot all the booze and TV's they can carry, and take out their rage on any non-blacks they see like they did 20 years ago with Reginald Denny and hundreds of others. Sanford Florida needs to start preparing their SWAT teams now!
U know your user name says it all.
Only they don't need to. I live here and there's nothing going on and never was even before the shooting. As soon as the black panther retards and attention seeking reverends left we went right back to being a sleepy country town. The media is blowing the "tension" in Sanford out of proportion like they do everything else.
Oh GREAT, so you "know" there won't be any riots? Good well when the rioters are tearing your door down to show you "justice" like they did Reginald Denny in LA just keep telling them that it's just "the tension from the media." I'm sure they'll listen to you. Good luck there Janie girl and I'm sure MSN will have plenty of overhead footage of the last agonizing moments of your life "live from the scene" just like 20 years ago.
Dumble you really are an idiot. Just like she does not "know" there won't be riots, you don't "know" there will be riots. But that does not stop you from continuing to make a a$$ of yourself. See how that works, us normal human beings call that logic. You should try it sometime, it's great!
Makes me wonder when someone will sue the media stations for "yeling fire" on the airwaves? If Zimmerman is found not guilty then killed for whatever reason- then the MEDIA IS FULLY RESPONSIBLE because of their twisting of the facts, altered 911 tapes, and the innocent trevyon pictures and blatant bias in this case.
Not to mention the race baiting- White/Hispanic!!!!!!!! PLEASE- call him a GD HISPANIC--- otherwise OBAMA should be called a WHITE/BLACK.
Can't have it both ways.
This was a touching story of survival, but it didn't take long for the racist bigots to spew their ignorance and hatred on this thread. I'm surprised that no-one has found a way to blame Obama for the LA riots that occurred 20 years ago.
Seriously.
Obama pulled that trucker out of his truck.
VOTE REPUBLICAN ########################################
The racist bigots are the rioters who started it all in the first place.
John, I hope your talking about the 'cops' that did the beating.
This is a very unique story. It doesn't matter how a person comes to be born. In 1966, my brother was born on the way to the hospital, two months premature. He spent his first two months of life in a incubator. He survived but not without complications (brain disorder), that developed later in his life. I hope this young lady figures out that she is on earth to live life like the rest of us. Nothing more, nothing less. She and her mother survived an ordeal. Live your life now! Enjoy your life now! Peace.
well now it seems that you were NOT supposed to die 20 yrs ago......ponder THAT for a minute then ask why?
Good luck to the family.
Incredible story. I can't imagine what it must have felt like to wake up believing your baby had died, and then learn she survived (with just an injury to her elbow, no less).
All those who took this as an opportunity for abortion and welfare rants, shame on you. Get off your high horse and see people as people once in a while.
Nice outcome for this lady and her child. I am sure that she is thankful everyday for this blessing. I wish her the best in life.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........
She was not a baby when shot - she was a fetus.
Enough of the right wing slant.
Nothing here new-1200374, if you had EVER seen an Ultrasound AND STILL think let you do, you have NO Conscience. You are no better than a Stalin or Pol Pot in their mass murders.
This is about "bird part slant"; this is about a Living baby in the womb. Love Life rather than hate those still in the womb
Just being factual.
Don't hate anyone or anything.
The fact is... it IS a baby that feels pain.
Just a fetus - not a baby??? Whatever term you choose to use, it's still a baby. A person not yet born, and as this story proves, life does not begin at birth. Too bad that those who choose abortion don't consider this more when making a "life ending" decision.
At the time she was a fetus.
yes, under Hitler...at the time, they were just Jews ... under Stalin, at the time, they were just non-Communists ... under Pol Pot ... and at the time they just people who wanted very basic human rights. So now Nothing New here justifies killing of millions like those above as ... at the they are just a fetus. The ultimate form of Age Discrimination.
nothing new
Technically, you are right. but you forgot to mention that it was a human fetus with human DNA, gender decided, color decided, personality decided . . . much like she was the day after the shooting.
"It occurs to me that all of those in favor of abortion have already been born. " Ronald Reagan.
No one seems to get the ridiculousness of this, its was an Unborn Child, every day millions are aborted and its not murder! So why when a fetus is killed by someone else besides a doctor does everyone get outraged!
Fetus that are of a certain gestational period the death would be considered feticide (sp) a organism that can not live on it own it consider a parasite.
Because the mom gets to choose, not some gun wielding lunatic.
Awesome story, so glad to hear. Only wish there not such mass killings of children in many of our cities inside Abortion Mills.
She has to be feared on her block...
'Damn girl you took a round before you was born and still kickin' it, word!'
To quell the argument: Fetus: An unborn offspring, from the embryo stage (the end of the eighth week after conception, when the major structures have formed) until birth. The fact that Jessica is alive and well with only a scar on her elbow is a miracle, a medical anomoly, a rare occurrence .... whatever you want to call it. This was a good story that sprang from an ugly page in our history books.
There were a lot of bad events that went on in the days that followed the Rodney King incident and subsequent trial.
I know it's great to hear that something that could have been devastating to a young mother to be had a good outcome. That being said it is always's the actions of a few that cause so many pain and suffering. Did Mr. King deserve to be beaten like that? None of us were there, even the video only tells part of the story, my guess is that there are other ways to subdue a forceful offender. By the way, Mr. King has done NOTHING positive since then and has been in many brushes with the law, so I will venture a guess here and say that he is and always was a brutal and troubled individual.
The trial outcome was not what certain people wanted, but that does not give anyone the right to do what the rioters did. These thugs destroyed and burned their own community to the ground (Not the sharpest crayons in the Box).
I am fearful that I see history about to repeat itself in Florida. Parents protect your children and keep them safe because as sure as the day is long, some of them will join the pack, if the trial outcome isn't what the violent few want, and riots and mayhem happen again; Your child will become one of the Bad and Ugly, not the Good and Righteous. Let our Justice system work it is the best in the world, and unless we are in the courtroom for the whole trial, we are only getting the part of the story that the media feeds us. We should all be smart and peaceful, let's not let others get hurt and let's not let thugs take over our communities.
My heart goes out to Treyvon's family, whether he was good or bad only Treyvon and God know, but a mother has lost a child and as those of us who have experienced this, there is nothing that can ease the pain and loss.
We have the power to say no to the Violence and act as United Communities to protect our children and neighbors!
Gods Love to all
To bad the press doesn't have anything good to say about the white woman that was stood on, and shot in the chest, or the truck driver that was pulled from his truck, and beat with a fire extingusher as the media safely watched from above.
Because they were saying bad things?
They can't do that - to do such a thing would be racist.
Feeling a little left out? Do you want to hear about White victims, so you can feel like you have ammo for your arguments? Here's a little secret. White victims don't sell papers, because most Blacks don't have a history of doing citywide manhunts for Whites faces. Most live in lala land about these issues and don't know how to march and protest without saying something stupid and looking racist.
For every 1 White victim there are like 10 Black victims, 8 Brown ones, about 4 Asian ones. Reginald Denny didn't deserve his beating, but lets see your compassion throughout.
I'm mean really study the history of riots and revolts, and you'll usually see a group a pissed off poor people. Usually the "acceptable" groups go on oblivious to the situation, because they don't see it as a problem for them. Then when it happens, they want to be surprised and scared. LA riots was just that.
What a absolutely lucky woman! I'm sure that the incident will make for a scary story to tell her child.
Wait a minute, I thought it was a fetus,......Wow, so fetuses actually do turn into real live people????? Imagine that!! Okay, I'm confused. So if a mother loves her unborn baby, then we should be concerned for it's safety, but if a mother doesn't love her unborn baby, we should protect her right to dice it up into little pieces? Oh, now I remember, it's not that Mom didn't love her baby, it was just too much of an inconvenience at the time! "I'll snuggle one when I have more time and money, but I'd better kill this one for now!"
Amen you are 100% right
ssshhhh, dont say it is a baby that can suck its thumb, wiggle its toes, close its eyes and do a somersaut at 7 months. If we think there is "something" alive in there, it would be such bad news for the likes of Plan Parenthood. If we just keep this quiet & use term "fetus", maybe people will not notice there is something living in there, after all, we got money to make at the Abortion Clinics. Afterall, "kiling one is a tradegy, killing millions is a statistic" Stalin
Kurt--I assume you are a man...what can YOU as a man possibly know about carrying a child or having to deliver a child? Can't stand when men offer their idiotic two cents about being pregnant or having a baby. Ugh. Crawl back under your rock.
Fourmore, so EASY for you to say since you are ALREADY too old to be aborted. Let us say if you are 30 years old and they made it legal to kill 30 year olds by tearing out their limbs from their sockets, crushing the skulls and sucking out the brains. We would all, rightly so, protest against this as cruel and usual punishments. Fourmore, dont justify genocide based on age. So dont offer your two cents in in the "right" of killing children unless YOU are willing to apply that SAME law to yourself
I said nothing about age...not sure what you mean?! I'm talking about a MAN not having a single clue as to what it's like to be pregnant and give birth...or being pregnant and NOT giving birth. Until a man can get pregnant he shouldn't be allowed to talk about abortion.
And here's something else for ya: you can explain an abortion to me till you're blue in the face, however I will always stand by a woman's right to choose.
A woman can died from being pregnant. Its a medical condition. Her choice if she willing to put her life on the line or not.
abortion should remain status quo for blacks and mexs......
Fourmore just playing the Gender Card against something he knows he is wrong. Just like some play the racecard when they know they are wrong. That fact remains, either gender can have an opinion on issues of life. Fourmore, you may not have said the word "age", your comments makes it clear you are in favor of the killing of our youngest age. Would you allow this to 2 year olds, maybe 40 year olds, maybe 70 year olds? Of course not, that would be declared cruel and usual punishment (rightly so), it is also cruel to allow it to happen for the youngest aged among us
WOW...MSNBC actually called the unborn baby an 'unborn baby' and not a 'Fetus'...refreshing!
I am a woman, Kurt.
Your "debate" makes no sense.
Moral of the story: Don't go outside gawking in the middle of a riot.
that would be the smart thing to do, but you are talking about compton.
Did you even read the whole story? She was looking for her son to come home. If a riot were happening around you and YOUR child was out there I'd hope you'd be looking for him. SMH.
what good would i or anyone else be to anyone if they went looking for someone in a riot and got killed in the process?
How sad that so many people insist on turning a positive story into a chance to rant against abortion, welfare, etc.
Learn to enjoy a positive story for what it is, and take some joy out of it ... your day will be much brighter.
How does that wool feel as you pull it down over your eyes? :)
I do but since 35% of abortions in 2011 were Black, I am with this mother in Joy & in condemning Abortion.
My days are particularly bright when I can speak out against the murder of innocent children! Gosh, what a bright day this is!
If you really cannot see the difference between a 7.5 month old fetus and a 3 week old one, I assume your day is brighter because your sight is impaired.
Have a good one. I'm off to do actual good things with my day,
I can see the difference between a 7.5 month old baby(fetus) and a 3 week old baby(fetus) just as we can see the difference in 3 year old person and a 7.5 year old person. It's called "growth".
So, opinionated and enlightened one, at what stage of growth do you opin it proper to murder a person?
3 days? 3 weeks? 7.5 months? 3 years? Or simply, anytime it gets in the way of your plans?
Technically it's an embryo from implantation to 8 weeks. The embryo's heart doesn't start beating until 4 weeks. After 8 weeks the embryo becomes a fetus - until birth. The age of viability is around 22-23 weeks (earliest). Before then, there would be a near zero chance of a fetus living outside of the womb.
These are just facts. My question is - can you consider something that can't live on its own to be living?