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Subscribe to RSSGeorge Zimmerman's attorney says his client has pulled in more than $200,000 in donations from his website to help with his defense. NBC's Kerry Sanders reports.
The prosecution in the second-degree murder case against George Zimmerman asked a Florida judge Friday to raise Zimmerman's bond in light of recent revelations that a website for his defense raised more than $200,000.
Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester said he wants to know more about the money before he decides whether to adjust the bond. The judge said he will make a decision at a later date.
Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara revealed Thursday night that his client's website had raised about $204,000 in donations, adding that the money has been placed in an account that can't be accessed directly by Zimmerman or his family.
"He asked me what to do with his PayPal accounts, and I asked him what he was talking about," O'Mara told CNN in an interview on Thursday. "He said those were the accounts that had the money from the website he had. And there was about ... $204,000 that had come in to date."
O'Mara told the judge about the money at a hearing Friday. The hearing was previously scheduled to discuss whether Zimmerman's file should be made public. Zimmerman is accused of second-degree murder in the shooting death of unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin.
O'Mara told the judge the money is currently in a trust fund that he controls and Zimmerman cannot access.
The website, which was created before Zimmerman turned himself in, has been shut down by O'Mara, who told the court he was not aware of the money it had raised when he spoke at Zimmerman's bond hearing last week. The site included pictures, quotes and a page asking for donations via PayPal.
Zimmerman, 28, the former neighborhood watch volunteer, was released early Monday from a Florida county jail on $150,000 bail. His family put up 10 percent to secure his release.
Martin's family was distressed to hear Zimmerman had raised so much money, considering the bond was set by the judge based on his family's limited wealth, their attorney said.
"They tried to portray themselves as indigent that they did not have any money," Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump said, according to CNN.
"We think that the court should revoke his bond immediately and he should be held accountable for misleading the court," he added.
At the bond hearing last week, Zimmerman's wife told the court she did not know how much money the website had collected in donations, adding that her brother-in-law helped set it up. She said the family is “trying to scrape up anything that we possibly can.”
According to CNN, O'Mara said Zimmerman's defense costs could reach $1 million.
"You can really go through a lot of money on a case like this, with the intensity of it," he said.
At the hearing Friday, the judge said he wouldn't place a gag order on Zimmerman's attorney, denying prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda's request. The prosecutor had complained to the court that O'Mara had been talking about the facts of the case to the media.
Zimmerman says Martin attacked him and he shot in self-defense. He was not charged for more than six weeks, sparking national protests. Martin was black; Zimmerman's father is white and his mother is Hispanic.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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gov. sees money you know thay will go for it. thay will rase his bond because thare all theves rob from the people to give to them selfs im not street dumb a lot of us know this. gov. just keeps on taking so you cant defind your self.a fare trial HA HA HA HA.
Zimmerman needs to sue NBC for no less than $1 Billion for the way they slandered him on a global scale. The doctoring of 911 tapes, using misleading photos, and having their employee Al Sharpton inciting riots should be punished by a staggering fine. A clear message should be sent that this sort of propaganda will not be tolerated by the so-called media.
Like your boy Murdoch?
lee, they did not "doctor" the tapes (a wingnut favorite talking point), they edited it. BIG difference.
Truth is an absolute defense to slander, sorry. Though I agree NBC should not have cut a piece from the 911 call to make it sound like he wasn't asked the victim's race, it wasn't a lie.
raddave they very selectively edited not for time but for content and they were caught. Their journalistic integrity will take generations to rebuild.
editing still does not equal doctoring lonereb.
raddave44 - Whatever. The willfully "doctored" the tapes. Editing out an willful ommission is the same thing as "doctoring". Split hairs all you want...
No Dani, doctoring would be if they had inserted something f'ing ni@@ers into the tape.
Hey Bringit-871936...You said "you want a race war? you got one!" ...Give me your address and I'll come find you with a race war...YOU F'N IDIOT
Believe me everyone, if this idiot Zimmerman is set free..... that will give every child molester a legal reason to hunt an underage victim, strangle, shoot, or kill them because they some how broke the law, and self defense and citizens arrest will be the escape goat for murder.
LOL
Okkii-no if Zimmerman gets off then every young thug that thinks they can start a fight with a short fat hispanic will learn not to. Zimmerman, as far as we know, did nothing wrong. If Trayvon wouldn't have started a fight he would still be alive
Sounds like you have made up your mind that Martin started the fight.
raddave44 - Yeah because see there is no way for Treyvon to be KILLED AT THE OTHER END OF THE COMPLEX. Open your eyes and close your heart for a second. What was treyvon doing ALL the way at the other end of a complex when he could have walked home BACKWARDS. :/
huh? He went to the store to get something and was walking back home. Be that as it may, what is illegal about being at THE OTHER END OF THE COMPLEX?
The title of this article is another example of the biased media in this case. The term "rake" implies a windfall and someone who profits from something. This is not the case. Also, the media has implied that he is white and killed a black man - yes, man, not a boy - but he is only half white. On the other hand, our President is declared by the media to be black, even though he also is half white.
This "windfall" by Zimmerman is not a windfall at all, but much needed money to defend himself against something that he wouldn't have even be tried for, except for people like Al (the obstruction of justice) Sharpton and his ilk.
What will you do when he is acquitted? Riot? Were there any riots or outbursts when OJ was acquitted? That one looked to be a slam dunk for the prosecution, but they failed to prove their case. This case, is not only not a slam-dunk, but one that is likely to end in an acquittal for 2 reasons:
(1) He is innocent
(2) He cannot get a fair trial anywhere in this country. Therefore, he will have to be let go because of the potential bias in the jury pools.
Anyway, everyone should just stop judging and let the system take its course.
Oh I heard that justice will be served. I just heard.
1) Not Innocent
2) Able to get a fair trial.
Anyway, everyone should continue to judge and yes the system will take its course.
I guess you would be able to give him a fair trial. After all, you already have him convicted and you haven't heard ANY of the evidence, only inuendos and the reports put out by all of the biased people (on both sides).
You just proved my point.
Bob: You are pointless. Period. And funny too... LOL :-)
What a bunch of nonsense. You claim Zimmerman is innocent. You say he can't get a fair trial, and then you have the nerve to tell everyone else to stop judging and let the system take it's course. What a hypocrite you are, bob2710627
Does anyone know how much a good defense in a murder case costs by the time this is over GZ will still owe his lawyer money. And people with public defenders are known as convicts.
Since when is a male considered a man before the age of 18? Justin Bieber actually is 18 years old, and most people wouldn't consider him a man just yet, but Trayvon was a full, grown man at age 17. Hmmm, wonder why...
because he was about 6'3" and bieber is about 4 foot nothing....
he was still only 140 lbs, I weighed more than that at 14.
raddave44: "he was still only 140 lbs, I weighed more than that at 14." -- His parents have said 150 lbs and the police reports say 160 lbs. I think you're a bit shy there.
No, the police report said between 140-150 lbs, try again.
"No, the police report said between 140-150 lbs, try again." - Nope. You're wrong. Again. Go here: mit.zenfs.com/102/2012/04/69081607-29132322.pdf Read the first block on the top of the second page. See. Weight: 160 lbs.
Do you think police have a scale, they weigh people on? The report I saw said between 140-150 lbs.
No I think police estimate based on general size and appearance. But I stated the correct information about what was in the police report. You were wrong.
I gave. I will give more.
Good for you.
The shut the site down, you dummy.
AE,
From your earlier posts you think that spoken words are grounds for an assault. You are dead wrong! You really think you would be acquitted for throwing a punch for something someone said that "pushed your buttons"? If you live by this rule, you would spend a lot of time in jail. So, I can assume you talk a lot of sh!t but are really a great big pu$$y
Antiochus some of us graduated HS before wikipedia and google and we know other ways besides the computer to do things.
Yes hooops, you douche. You can't seriously provoke someone and then try to get them busted for assault. Not gonna happen. Had Martin lived and the cops showed up, then they would not have charged Martin with anything. Or if they did, then the judge would have thrown it out.
@Antiochus Epimanes: If Martin had survived and the cops showed up, Martin would most likely have been arrested for assault and battery.
AE,
If I'm a douche, I spend a lot of time in vaginas (hey - it's true). And you are a great big pu$$ie. Perhaps we'll meet someday. Regarding the law, read a book
Kimbo, you post that garbage and accuse someone else of being high? Martin was suspended from school because of a baggie of what appeared to be marijuana. He was not arrested, not charged with possession. He was suspended once for getting into a fight, again not charged with assault. Zimmerman, on the other hand was arrested for and charged with battery of a police officer, which was later dismissed because he entered an anger management program. The family did not say it wasn't Zimmerman's voice, two different experts did, and they did have recordings of GZ's voice to make the analysis. And you think someone who is 6'1" 140 lbs is more intimidating that someone who is 5'9" 190 lbs? Another neighbor also said that she witnessed Zimmerman on top of Martin, so who is telling the truth? And finally, granting bail is not a determination of innocence or guilt. But rather, is that person a flight risk.
An empty baggie. Got to watch how you say stuff around Zim Zealots. They have a knack for blowing everything out of proportion.
empty baggie of marijuana = Martin a junkie drug fiend
caught with a screwdriver = Martin a world class cat burglar with higly sophisticated tools for the job
hoodie = Martin a murdering thieving bastard prowling the streets for his next victim
So a baggie of marijuana would equal to Martin being a big time drug lord on par with Pablo Escobar.
@RADDAVE: "The family did not say it wasn't Zimmerman's voice, two different experts did" -- One "expert" did no analysis, just listened to the voices and said, "Nope, not Zimmerman", which is neither scientific nor credible. The second expert's conclusions have been questioned by other experts because of the differences in the quality and length of the samples. Also, the second expert only said it was unlikely to be Zimmerman. An eye witness saw and heard Zimmerman screaming.
"someone who is 6'1" 140 lbs is more intimidating that someone who is 5'9" 190 lbs?" -- Depends on body language, but...yes.
"another neighbor also said that she witnessed Zimmerman on top of Martin," -- That was AFTER the gun shot, not before. Two eye-witnesses place Zimmerman on the bottom.
both experts did analysis on the recordings. An eyewitness also said it was Martin screaming. and no it was NOT after the gun shot.
Did you miss the punch at the bus driver definite anger problems there on the part of TM.
Do you have any evidence to support the punch at the bus driver claim? He was suspended for getting in a fight at school.
@Raddave: "both experts did analysis on the recordings." - No, you are wrong. Ed Primeau did NO scientific analysis. Form the Orlando Sentinel: "Not all experts rely on biometrics. Ed Primeau, a Michigan-based audio engineer and forensics expert, is not a believer in the technology's use in courtroom settings. He relies instead on audio enhancement and human analysis based on forensic experience. After listening closely to the 911 tape on which the screams are heard, Primeau also has a strong opinion..." Ergo: he listened to the tape and said, "nope".
"An eyewitness also said it was Martin screaming. and no it was NOT after the gun shot." - Please provide a link to this statement. And I'll possibly save you some time: Mary Crutcher and her roommate saw Zimmerman on top AFTER the gun shot...
raddave44 god you really have nothing right in this. Goto www.wagist.com and get some real freaking information please if your bias can come undone for 30 seconds:
1. You forget it had the PIPE in the with the baggie too. Not just a baggie.
2. TWO eyewitnesses said it was George Zimmerman yelling for help.
3. A large flathead screwdriver IS A BURGLARY TOOL. You don't have that at school. Give me a break. OH yeah he had a sledgehammer and a drill press too right cuz he had shop that day??
4. NONE of the witnesses claim it was Treyvon Martin yelling for help (God where did you get this). NONE of them SAW anyone screaming and a couple have tried to assume because "Well it was a higher pitched voice" but NO ONE SAW Treyvon screaming...
5. Really how do you know how he was suspended? The twitter posting talks about swinging on a bus driver. I read the handbook a TEN day suspension is a level 3 or higher infraction. Where did you get this great piece of information since all the school records are sealed.
6. The EXPERTS have not determined anything on the audio. The prosecution already stated this under oath. Why do you all keep on professing something that is NOT TRUE...
Dan you douche the school district confirmed Martin was never suspended for an infraction that involved violence. And NBC hired experts to analyze the tapes., dipstick.
dani, I am not going to a white suprecist website to get any news on this case. Martin was found with a baggie of what appeared to by marijuana residue. Most people don't use a pipe to smoke marijuana.
And wasn't wagist.com the site that was posting facebook pictures of another Trayvon Martin, trying to say it was this one?
@raddave: "I am not going to a white suprecist website..." LOL. A white suprecist [sic] website with a progressive liberal for an editor-in-chief? Hardly.
Yes, a white supremacist site.
LOL. Yeah, right. How I do even refute that when it's so ridiculous? If you claim that a site with a progressive liberal as an editor-in-chief is a white supremacist site, then I really question your ability to make any logical conclusions about anything.
you can refudiate it. Just post something proving that Joshua Vogel is a progressive liberal. And that is how the blue coat filter on my computer classifies the site.
Would a blog post by the man himself suffice: www.wagist.com/2011/joshua-vogel/progressives-it%E2%80%99s-time-to-go-buy-your-guns. Also, it would be better if you find out for yourself what a site is about rather than relying on others--or computer programs--to tell you. That advice applies to the facts of this case as well. Go directly to the released evidence or statements. Don't just believe what the media is feeding you.
AE,
Same NBC that doctored th tapes - Another double retard post by you!!!
I heard Zimm is going out with Casey.
Really? Wow.
I've seen a lot of posts in here declaring it's wrong that Zimmerman should be able to rasie any money at all for his defense. This opinion seems to be coming mainly from the left leaning posters. How many of you were upset when a sitting President did the same thing by opening a legal defense fund?
You dummy, that sitting president was being crucified for something that was not even a crime. Doubt he would have opened a legal defense fund for stalking someone and then shooting them in cold blood.
AE,
Are you mad at Obama for saying that if he had a son, he would have looked like Trayvon. Is Obama implying all African-Americans look alike to him?
Is that what you deducted from what the President said?
Raddave,
Nope - Just screwing around with AE because he's a moron.
Ah ok. I ask, because you are not the first person to say this.
Trayvon's girlfriend's statement (testimony) should be weighed equally with Zimmerman's.
@thoughtfulcomments: 'Trayvon's girlfriend's statement (testimony) should be weighed equally with Zimmerman's." - Not in my book. Zimmerman gave his immediately after the incident. The friend--not girlfriend--didn't come forward until weeks later and then she only spoke through Chump...er, Crump. She refused to be questioned by the police. How credible is that?
AE, do you have any idea which sitting president I was referring to?
No uninterested. Martin's girlfriend went to the police, who refused to interview her.
" Martin's girlfriend went to the police, who refused to interview her." - More bull@!$%#. Link please. Crump told everyone that DeeDee was afraid to talk to the police. She refused to be questioned. The first time she actually talked directly to law enforcement was when the state investigators talked to her.
Why do so many White Americans quickly point to an overwhelming disproportionate amount of African Americans in jail compare to the rest of society? ...Sometimes if you close your eyes reeeal tight and wish with allll your might, you can make disappear the reality of just why this racist situation is allowed to exist, as it always has in America concerning Blacks. (Yawn!)
Crime is an activity common to all classes. Even back in 1968, when the crime rate was over a third lower than it is today, a President's Crime Commission surveyed 10,000 households and discovered that "91 percent of all Americans have violated laws that could have subjected them to a term of imprisonment at one time in their lives." The report also found that 64 percent of all males, and 27 percent of all females, in New York state had committed felonies.(1) Felonies, remember, are serious enough to draw at least one year in prison; most people in prison today are there on misdemeanors.
Yet America's prisons do not resemble a true cross section of society. The majority of state prisoners in 1991 had incomes under the poverty level:
By contrast, the U.S. median income for part-time and full-time males in 1991 was $20,469. Only a fourth of the male population made less than $10,000. (3) State prisoners were also disproportionately unemployed before arrest:
By comparison, the national unemployment rate was 6.7 percent in 1991. (5) The education level was also far below average:
By comparison, the national average for high school dropouts was 22 percent. (7)
But if 91 percent of our society has admitted to committing crimes that would have required prison time, why do our jail-houses resemble the national poor house? After reviewing the statistics, noted criminologist Jeffrey Reiman writes: "For the same criminal behavior, the poor are more likely to be arrested; if arrested, they are more likely to be charged; if charged, more likely to be convicted; if convicted, more likely to be sentenced to prison; and if sentenced, more likely to be given longer prison terms than members of the middle and upper classes." (8) This winnowing process insures that few wealthy criminals ever see the inside of a prison.
SO PLEASE, OPEN YOUR EYES ALREADY AND ADMIT (ONCE AGAIN) THAT WE LIVE IN A SYSTEMATICALLY RACIST SOCIETY. THERE WILL NEVER BE TRUE FAIRNESS AS LONG AS THERE ARE THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO BELIEVE LIES AND MASS FABRICATIONS CONCERNING MINORITIES IN AMERICA. GOOD DAY!
Pete-please look up the stats on murder-black on black--white on white--black on white--white on black. Now remember that we have way more whites than blacks in the country, so that means if we were a racist country we would have more white on black murders since you have more whites than blacks-BUT you don't-this shows we are not a racist country and blacks like murdering folks
Pete the Painting Guy: Yo Yo Bro... Taking up too much space on the comment board. I fell asleep half way through trying to read that cra..p! And your point was.............................................?
oi812, you logic is wayyyy off. It just shows you level of ignorance. First, you hve to consider the residual slave legacy that still drags on the progress of Minorities. Next, you have to consider White American don't need a gun to destroy African Americans. Look at all the illegal drugs that was piped into the Black communities. Minorities don't have that kind of money to buy all that dope. Then, you have to also consider a good many liquor shops in the littering up the Black neighborhoods. That contributes to all the despair and lawlessness of minorities. I can go on and on.
You see its more than just a numbers game of White over Blacks. Way more. Poverty has a way of breeding crime. Whites have access to more money. They don't need to rob anybody. Many of their ancestors did that many years ago.
Sir Mason, as soon as somebody post some kind of intelligent discourse, some bone head will invariably start with the stereotypical dialogue, " yo, yo, Bro". Happens every time. So, I guess I now where you head is. It doesn't matter what I say to you, you are stuck on stupid with that type of mentality and mindset.
By the way, If you could not make a reasonably intelligent comment on what I wrote, why did you even bothered to comment other than to act condescending and dense. Please get back on the couch and get some more rest. Intelligent information have a tendency to make sleepy the more ignorant. It's ok. It's typical and expected.
P.S. By the way, you really don't know my Race, do you? Unless you are a psychic. You would be surprise to know what my actual race is. Heehee! But, it didn't stop you from diving into the racial stereotypical innuendos. I could have made similar remarks to you by saying, " you redneck trailer park trash". But I didn't. I will afford you more respect than the "yo, you, Bro" you gave me. So way off the mark... Good day!
Yaaawwwwnnnn: I just woke up from the couch, bro... LOL. I'm sorry, you were saying?
@oi812
I looked up the stats and found the following from the Bureau of Justice Statistics for 1976-2005:
The race distribution of homicide victims and offenders differs by type of homicide
For the years 1976-2005 combined -
Homicide Type by Race, 1976-2005
Victims Offenders
WhiteBlackOther WhiteBlackOther
All homicides
50.9%
46.9%
2.1%
45.8%
52.2%
2.0%
Victim/offender relationship
Intimate
56.6%
41.2%
2.2%
54.4%
43.4%
2.2%
Family
60.7%
36.9%
2.4%
59.2%
38.5%
2.3%
Infanticide
55.9%
41.6%
2.5%
55.4%
42.1%
2.5%
Eldercide
69.2%
29.1%
1.6%
54.5%
43.8%
1.6%
Circumstances
Felony murder
54.7%
42.7%
2.6%
39.1%
59.3%
1.6%
Sex related
66.9%
30.5%
2.5%
54.7%
43.4%
1.9%
Drug related
37.4%
61.6%
.9%
33.9%
65.0%
1.1%
Gang related
57.5%
39.0%
3.5%
54.3%
41.2%
4.4%
Argument
48.6%
49.3%
2.1%
46.8%
51.1%
2.2%
Workplace
84.6%
12.2%
3.2%
70.5%
26.7%
2.8%
Weapon
Gun homicide
47.2%
50.9%
1.9%
41.9%
56.4%
1.7%
Arson
58.9%
38.1%
2.9%
55.7%
42.0%
2.3%
Poison
80.6%
16.9%
2.5%
79.8%
18.4%
1.8%
Multiple victims or offenders
Multiple victims
63.4%
33.2%
3.3%
55.7%
40.8%
3.5%
Multiple offenders
54.8%
42.5%
2.7%
44.6%
53.0%
2.4%
Although slightly less true now than before, most murders are intraracial
From 1976 to 2005 --
If you look at the stats immediately above, regardless of the disproportion for blacks, the conclusion would be whites kill whites, and blacks kill blacks. I am aware that the stats aren't the most recent, but I don't think statistics that have been collected for almost 30 years would all of a sudden change drastically from 2005 until now. In response to what you said about racism, just because white on black crime isn't higher does not suggest that that racism is not an issue in this country, as racism and murder are not one in the same; just for the record, I am sure you know that black on white crime is also considerably low as compared to white on white and black on black. Since you like to give out homework, maybe you should do some of your own on the definition of 'racism', and reviewing definitions from multiple sources would be most helpful.
So what we have here is a black male adult wearing a hoodie in Florida where it's 90 plus degrees looking like Brother Zachary out of the Omega Man movie threatening the Neighborhood Watch half white man. Then the liberal media uses a picture of Brother Zachary when he was 12 years old as the profile picture for this thug. Come on. Give me a break. Zimmerman was doing his job and got mugged. When Zimmerman is found innocent, the court should make the thugs family pay for the defense cost. What a bunch of racist bull crap.
pew, no, what you got was a black male, juvenille, wearing a hoodie while it was raining. In February, it is not 90 degrees in Florida, even in Miami. And, do you think the media just had pictures of a 17 year old Trayvon, just laying around, ready to be used? Or do you think the original photos shown were given to them by Martin's family?
I think it is a great idea, let black people start a bail fund so when they are accused of killing a white person we can insure they get out on bond to do it again while waiting trial.
How sure are you that Zimmerman is not going to do it again while he's wating trial?
Well with the death threats and the ankle GPS monitor I guess you don't really have to worry Mom1010. Unless you are afraid of shadows.
people on bail are not required to wear GPS ankle monitors. That is for people under "house arrest."
@raddave44: "people on bail are not required to wear GPS ankle monitors. That is for people under "house arrest."" -- And yet Zimmerman IS wearing a GPS monitor. Your arguments might be taken more seriously if you demonstrated better knowledge of the facts of this case.
do you have a picture of him wearing one?
@raddave: Seriously? Do you know nothing about this case? Oh FFS. Here are the minutes of the bond hearing: www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/minutes_of_bond_hearing.pdf. Note the part where the judge declares that Zimmerman is to be fitted with a GPS monitor. Do you really think the Sheriff's Dept released him without one?
Geez.. Next thing you know the Martin's are going to want some, if not all of the money Zimmermans' site has raised. Those that donated believe Zimmerman's innocent and the money is for his legal fee's. It's fair and perfectly for people to donate to a cause they deem just, and apparently they deem Zimmerman as a just cause.
Reality, the media and the Martin's have turned this into a racial circus. This kid was no angel and that is being kept pretty quiet in the media. Zimmerman WAS injured by Martin, and there are witnesses. This should not even be a murder case for real, but with the race card being played.. its became one.
Zimmerman's bail should NOT be raised. Fair is fair and the judge already set the bond. The funds raised are for the fee's that will come into play during the trial. I really hope that they don't give any of the money provided by Zimmerman supporters to the Martins. That would be a total kick in the teeth.
This circus thats being created is sickening. Seriously, I hope they find Zimmerman innocent and that he and his family can live somewhere safe away from media and Martin ridicule. This is becoming pathetic.
You are right you can donate to any cause you like, but it doesn't say much for Zimmerman's MANHOOD to be asking for it. Get a job, work like the rest of us, stop being a P-ssy!
I agree his bond should not be raised He should use all of your money so us Tax Payers don't foot the BILL! Also, when they hand down that Guilty Verdict all should be satisfied that he had the Best Defense.
Why do you "hope" they find Zimmerman innocent?
The man is now begging for money , begging......He is a con man talking his way out of everything and people actually are falling for it.
Not according to liberals. According to liberals and our government the only thing the rest of us are good for is our tax return and our kids to fight their wars after that we are expendable and if the leave us any money after taxes it can only be used the way they want us to use it.
Raddave44
As a responsible Gun Owner, this should have never happened, that Gun should never have been there!!!!
He's not Innocent....I don't care how you try and twist this Bullsh-t around. He guilty of lots of things including being a Stupid Coward.
Mom1010 with or without the bounty on his head. I sure wouldn't want to be working next to him. The idiots who will try to collect aren't really known for their marksmanship. They would probably kill me instead.
reb, what are you babbling about? I spent 26 years of my life in defense of this country and know many "liberals" that did the same and probably paid more in taxes last year than you made.
Well what ever happens to zimmerman, his family is in hiding and in hock, so he not only ended Martins life but he has ruined his fathers life and his wife . The man is in hiding.......the man is in hiding.......afraid for his life ..just like he was afraid when he carried the gun looking for Trayvon.
Sure, I think Zimmerman deserves a fair trial, but I truly wonder how the general public would have felt if the tables were turned and it was Martin's family collecting money for a strong defense via the web. I am sure there are a lot of falsely accused people who have been railroaded, maybe not by the media, but by the legal system, and have ended up with charges and/or go to jail due to poor representation in court. So is collecting money for legal representation from a website acceptable for anyone now? Is it even ethical?
Had Zimmerman just followed the 911 Operators orders and just walked away we wouldn't be here today would we.
graybeard get's the Cliche Dumb Comment Award!
He was not ordered to do anything.
Zimmerman couldn't follow Martin after he got off the phone because he didn't know where Martin was.
There is no way Zimmerman could catch up with Martin unless Martin came back for Zimmerman.
If Martin didn't get suspended from school, he would be alive today. If Martin didn't attack Zimmerman, he would be alive today. I can keep going with this....
Very true. Instead, he made a choice to continue to seek out Trayvon to detain him, until the Police arrived. Yes, Trayvon would still be alive today and two lives would have not been wasted.
Sir Mason - "he made a choice to continue to see out Trayvon and detain him". Do you realize how stupid this statement is. Geroge did not want to detain anyone. He specifically stated that in a previous 911 call. All he wanted to do was see which way he ran to tell the police. He was under the impression that Treyvon was LONG GONE until he came back up the sidewalk and assaulted him. You have ZERO FACTS to state anything otherwise other than emotion which is all I see from anyone else. Oh and the "Audio experts say its not him' garbage. Funny those experts wont do an analysis on Treyvon martin audio.. How come???
Dan: I Like you. I like simple people like you. Let me break it down for you. Trayvon walking home from store. Zimmerass on the phone with dispatch. Zimmerass makes the statement "As..s..holes always get away". When Zimmerass got out of his truck to PURSUE Trayvon, and if you listen 2:41 seconds into the 911 tapes, you can hear Zimmerass slide his weapon back, chambering one round. Zimmerass had already made up his mind to detain Trayvon. Zimmerass didn't believe he belonged in the neighborhood in the first place, so what would have been the purpose for him to follow or to see where he was going? Zimmerass wanted to detain Trayvon, until the Police arrived. Why else would he call the Police? I have all the FACTS: 911 tapes and a dead 17 year old...... LOL :-)
dani, you are a fool if you believe Zimmerman's story about Martin being long gone and then "sneaking up on him." BTW, Zimmerman, at one point claimed that Martin jumped out and attacked him, BUT there was no place for him to hide where the even took place. and maybe the "won't do" an analysis on Martin, because he is dead and cannot record a message to be analyzed?
Mr Zimmerman better remember that he will owe income taxes on the $200,000 he raked in for his defense.
Where do I send my check to ZIM...? We need to contribute to ZIM so all the krapola can be removed stirred up by Whakkos, Sharpton, Jesse, Panth'uuurs, and crazed nutzos that can't read. Just sayin' Has anyone been arrested yet for offering a BOUNTY on ZIM...I DIDNT THINK SO !!!! sigh !!
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Hope you all realize that Zimmerman has already spent $50,000. of that money for his personal use, living expenses for him, wife and for food! That was on the news this morning. How can you spend $50,000 in 2 months???I How is he indigent with $204,000.00 think it's a disgrace for him to be able to raise funds for his living expenses, he committed MURDER..Take down that site and give everyone who contributed their money back. They could better spend their money on their own mental evaluation! Let the court take control of the money so the tax payers don't carry the full burden of this Murderers trial..George you are not so big and bad now you hide like a little baby, a real man wouldn't hide.
Living in hiding is more expensive ask anyone who has ever had to do it. You don't go shopping at the food outlet. You don't go shopping at all and you screen anyone coming up to where you are. I wwonder why the NBP were stupid enough to offer such a high bounty since you can get someone killed in this country for $1. Why by the way haven't they been arrested for conspiracy to commit murder?
Seems...it's okay in the world of whakko-liberals for a BOUNTY OFFERING to kill a USA Citizen...Just axxxxin' WHY isn't this being investigated ???? As I figured...liberals won't answer...SIGH !!
Because maybe, there was no bounty to KILL zimmerman. and if there was, maybe no one, but wingnuts consider the NBPP a credible threat?
I'm guessing no one took it seriously, considering the source. They wouldn't have the money for such a bounty. But yeah, it's still a crime.
raddave do you know how many nuts in this country will kill for $1. In the neighborhood I used to live in you could easily get someone killed for $50. And maybe no one has had a good shot yet. The police consider the threats credible. Why do you think they put a bulletproof vest on him for court?
Besides I don't think this is even going to trial, when he contacted the Prosecutor I believe he was trying to make a deal. And I believe a Deal will be reached and there will be a Guilty Plea and no trial.
This is my opinion so don't go getting all Nasty out there!!! lol!!!
Naaaaa ! Zim will make fools of Sharpton, Jesse, and the nutzos that have already had the trial of GUILTY for Mr ZIN. Mr Zin will make loads of money, and live happily. And, liberal followers of Sharpton will wet their britches. LOL
Join me in a moment of silence: liberal nutzos have lost their cotton-pickin' minds. Yep. :D
$200,000 raised so far, and growing. Wow!, think about that..... not the crime, but about the size of that figure, and it's expected to grow some more.
Forget about the possible murder charge, forget about the angry young black man not taking kindly to being followed or questioned, and attacking his future killer..... forget about any of that, and focus on the money: $200,000.00 dollars. AND you know the total cost of Zimmerman's defense is going to cost way more than that.
Does that figure sound right to anyone? If yes, Why?
He is broke. THe money is for his defense. The Millers just want the money so they can go about there merry way not working for a living just leaching off working people. And if by some chance they do work they are tired of it and see a free ticket. What a bunch of turds. You go Zimmerman, I will donate to your cause.
Who The F--k are the MILLERS? I am glad you are donating because I don't want my Tax Dollars defending him or anybody else that can afford representation!