Mom charged with putting bleach in her toddler's eyes

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A 29-year-old Washington state woman was charged Monday with first-degree child abuse after doctors said she nearly blinded her toddlerby replacing the child's antibiotic eyedrops with household bleach.

A 29-year-old Washington state woman was charged Monday with first-degree child abuse after doctors said she nearly blinded her toddler daughter by replacing the child’s antibiotic eyedrops with household bleach.

Jennifer Lynn Mothershead of Buckley, Wash., was arrested Friday after a nearly yearlong investigation that revealed that she inflicted severe eye and head injuries on the child, court documents show. She was held by Pierce County officials in lieu of $150,000 bail.

The child’s injuries were recounted earlier this month in a medical journal in which doctors at Seattle Children’s Hospital revealed they treated the girl for nearly two months and may have missed signs of abuse.

“Of course we felt guilty, we knew from very early on that she had this,” said Dr. Avery H. Weiss, of the Roger Johnson Clinical Vision Laboratory at Seattle Children’s. “But we were reluctant to implicate the mother until we were 100 percent sure.”

Mothershead was separated from the child’s father, Cody B. Mothershead, who is a math teacher at a local high school, White River High School, in Buckley, a town of 4,500 in western Washington state. School district officials said Monday they were not aware of the extent of the child’s injuries or whether Cody Mothershead was aware of the abuse. As a teacher, he would be required by law to report any suspicion of child abuse.

Mothershead told investigators his estranged wife wouldn’t allow him to administer the eye drops and used the child’s medical condition to deny visits with the girl, whom he saw for a few hours every week to 10 days.

Court records showed that Jennifer Mothershead said the child’s eyes had been swollen shut for four weeks and that the girl slept 20 to 22 hours a day because of the discomfort.

Weiss said the toddler was brought to Seattle Children’s with an unusual eye infection and a corneal abrasion.

“We thought, this doesn’t all fit together unless someone is putting something on the eye,” Weiss told msnbc.com.

When the child was hospitalized, her condition would improve. When she went home, it got worse, Weiss said.

On May 12, 2011, the child, then 14 months old and identified in the court records only as K.L.M., was airlifted to a local trauma center, Harborview Medical Center, with a subdural hematoma, or brain hemorrhage, court records show.

The mother appeared “unperturbed about the situation and said she had no idea what caused K.M.’s head injury,” the records show.

She told the medical staff the child had to be swaddled when eye drops or antibiotics were administered.

After the head injury, doctors confiscated the child’s eye drops.

“When the eye drop bottle was opened, a noxious smell filled the room,” Weiss wrote. Court records say the contents caused burning eyes and mild nausea for staff members present.

Laboratory tests confirmed a pH of 6.0 and the presence of bleach, according to the Journal of the American Association for Pediatric Ophthalmology and Strabismus.

It’s not clear why Jennifer Mothershead allegedly abused the child. Weiss said the situation did not appear to be a case of Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome, in which parents sometimes abuse children by making them appear to be ill in order to gain attention for themselves.

“This was purposeful child abuse,” said Weiss.

There may have been an indication that Jennifer Mothershead was mentally ill, doctors said. Ben Vrieze, a Buckley man who said he bought Mothershead's house last year, said the place was strewn with court papers.

“She didn’t seem balanced at all,” he said.

The little girl’s vision is permanently impaired, Weiss said, who added that he hasn’t been able to fully examine her vision because she is unable to sit still.

“This child isn’t going to be normal for the rest of her life,” he said.

Weiss said he wrote the journal article as a way to urge other ophthalmologists to consider child abuse as a possible cause of eye injuries that don’t heal.

Mothershead gave birth to a second child in August, according to a Washington state child protective services official. That child, whose gender was not identified, was placed in the care of relatives. No charges of abuse have been filed in connection with that infant.

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Now that's a battle for custody.

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#1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:50 PM EDT

My bet is that she was just another crazy woman, who was/is divorcing, and wanted to keep the man from the child.

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#1.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:38 PM EDT

I'm against the death penalty but this "mother" should be put down for the sake of humanity. This story is disturbing, who could put bleach in a... I can't even say it. Horrific.

  • 95 votes
#1.2 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:48 PM EDT

If the second child was placed with relatives, what was the cause? If suspected child abuse was the cause, then why wasn't this poor child taken away from her?

This woman definitely needs to be sterilized and put in prison for a very long time.

I feel so sorry for this child...there are just no words for this kind of child abuse. Horrible.

  • 40 votes
#1.3 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:07 PM EDT

I'm still cringing minutes after reading this. I should have known better than to click on this article.

  • 61 votes
#1.4 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:39 PM EDT

I have a problem with Dr. Weiss who said, "Of course we feel guilty, we knew from early on that she had this" "But were reluctant to implicate the mother until they were 100% sure" is he kidding????

  • 100 votes
#1.5 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:45 PM EDT

This makes me very ill and disgusted--what is wrong with people? Please, please speak up if you suspect a child is being abused. This childs father should have had someone checking on her if he wasn't being a loud to see her!!

  • 28 votes
#1.6 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:51 PM EDT

Kris1234-3592742: The second child was taken away because of the investigation into the abuse of the first child.

There are some truly sick people in this world. My thoughts are with this little girl. I wonder, however, how her father didn't investigate his daughter's health problems earlier?

  • 18 votes
#1.7 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:56 PM EDT

As usual, some here are already attempting to shift some blame over to the father.

  • 34 votes
#1.8 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:08 PM EDT

Thom: He should have been close enough to his child to know/sense something was going on. Who else would have noticed? The neighbor across the street? The cashier at the Safeway? NO... the DAD. He is an accessory in this. I also agree with Allison who was disturbed by the doctor's "we knew this was going on, but wanted to wait till we were 100% sure..." !! Meanwhile, this little child was being tortured and permanently blinded. God, for the fear of lawsuits, people stand by and let things happen. Hope this woman is in prison for a good 30-40 years and can have nothing to do with any children, ever.

  • 24 votes
#1.9 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:27 PM EDT

It's hard to believe that these doctors didn't react when the child improved at the hospital stay and got worse when the child went home. Doctors have reported suspicion of abuse over much less than this.

I was reminded of a recent article where a police officers daughter had a genetic disease that caused bones to break easily. They took the child and fought the parents attempts at getting their child back even after the child suffered numerous fractures while in foster care. The couple ended up as a murder suicide I believe. Two weeks later a doctor that didn't have his head up his arse correctly diagnosed the problem. The child welfare system failed this family as the doctors who were treating this child failed their patient. They wonder why malpractice insurance is so costly.

The world is totally screwed up.

  • 38 votes
#1.10 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:36 PM EDT

From the article:

[Cody B., Mothershead] told investigators his estranged wife wouldn’t allow him to administer the eye drops

Weiss said the toddler was brought to Seattle Children’s with an unusual eye infection and a corneal abrasion.

The mother appeared “unperturbed about the situation..."

After the head injury, doctors confiscated the child’s eye drops.

Laboratory tests confirmed a pH of 6.0 and the presence of bleach

...The little girl’s vision is permanently impaired,

If found guilty...

Jennifer Mothershead has displayed exceptionally, morbid Child Abuse and Child Cruelty.

Send this Compassionless and Predatory "mother" to Prison for Life!

  • 26 votes
#1.11 - Tue May 1, 2012 1:59 AM EDT

LOCK HER UP and throw-away the key

  • 21 votes
#1.12 - Tue May 1, 2012 2:22 AM EDT

Who the @!$%# is sick enough to do such a thing?! If you're criminally insane, should you really be excused for your crimes? Or should we put you down for the sake of everyone around you?

  • 20 votes
#1.13 - Tue May 1, 2012 2:47 AM EDT

DH-1294801 wrote "He should have been close enough to his child to know/sense something was going on. Who else would have noticed? "

Dad is out working and collecting income. Why shouldn't the mother be charged with a felony and permanent loss of parental rights for her attempt to blind a child? Why do you blame the father? Is he responsible for the mother's actions?

  • 21 votes
#1.14 - Tue May 1, 2012 3:12 AM EDT

The woman is NOT mentally ill. Put her abusive arse in solitary confinement and only let her out long enough to get bleach put in HER eyes daily.

I'm sick of reading about innocent children getting inflicted with pain and traumas, not to mention life-long disabilities because these imbeciles are allowed to roam our streets freely.

I've said it once, and I'll say it again....I wish there were SOME way we could weed these sickos out before they have a chance to do harm to others.

Unbelievable!

  • 25 votes
#1.15 - Tue May 1, 2012 4:57 AM EDT

AN EYE FOR AN EYE!!!

  • 11 votes
#1.16 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:07 AM EDT

He should have been close enough to his child to know/sense something was going on.

Try having a child with an estranged and disturbed woman who does everything in her power to keep you from seeing your child. You won't have much luck in the courts, I will tell you that much.

  • 30 votes
#1.17 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:09 AM EDT

...now the child can SEE CLEARLY what kind of mom the child has. WOW the cruelty. We should send this mom to fight the Taliban.

  • 4 votes
#1.18 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:44 AM EDT

It's just amazing how people are trying to blame the father. Part of this woman's abusive pattern was to deny the father a relationship with his daughter. The doctors probably saw the girl more than the father. The sanctimonious attitude toward motherhood in this country is how this woman got away with sadistic torture for months.

Like the doctor said,

“But we were reluctant to implicate the mother until we were 100 percent sure.”

So months slipped by and now this girl is close to 100% blind. Right under his nose.

It's time for women, especially feminists, to turn around and smell the kakapoohpooh! Most, not all, of the most heinous crimes against children are perpetrated by women. Yet we live in a country where the big pink elephant in the room is telling everyone that 'no woman would ever do that to her own child.' And we believe it. Hook, line and sinker.

This case is exactly the reason we need to pass Barbara Boxer's (D-CA) Violence Against Children Act. Yet it's wallowed in judiciary committees for years. Yet the Violence Against Women Act sailed through in 1994 and has been dutifully ratified ever since. If feminists had the same zeal for children as they have for themselves, Boxer's Act would have been passed years ago.

Politicians from both parties need to quit pandering to special interest lobbies and playing politics with kids lives.

  • 21 votes
#1.19 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:59 AM EDT

My heart breaks everytime I read of a child or children being abused by their parent(s), still I cannot find it in myself to fully implicate the father in this situation. I know of too many fathers who are denied access to their children altogether or, at least, for any extended period of time, and are then relegated to being nothing more than a source of money. This woman showed no emotion as it pertained to the critical condition of her child following the brain injury. Her lack of emotion says it all and certainly rules out Munchhausen By Proxy. She seems to have become a sociopath and someone Hell-bent on inflicting all of the pain she felt onto the only person she could fully control, her own child. It's unimaginable and I cannot fathom the pain that precious child endured. This world has some pretty sick tickets running around, but this one. . . .sigh. . .

  • 12 votes
#1.20 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:07 AM EDT

Kris1234-3592742: "If the second child was placed with relatives, what was the cause? If suspected child abuse was the cause, then why wasn't this poor child taken away from her?"

Just to clarify, Kris ... the second child was not removed from the home until AFTER the abuse was discovered - the same time the then 14 month old daughter was removed from the home. The second child was not removed from the home at birth and the older child allowed to remain. They were both removed at the same time. The older child was not immediately placed with relatives because she was being hospitalized. She will probably be placed with the same relatives upon her release but that remains for a court to decide, assuming the determination has not already been made.

Elpea: "... I wonder, however, how her father didn't investigate his daughter's health problems earlier?"

DH-1294801: "He should have been close enough to his child to know/sense something was going on ... the DAD. He is an accessory in this."

That's a lot of pretty presumptive damning of the father, folks, and it goes to the issue of reading comprehension on your part.

1) The parents were separated.

2) The father was not given open access to his daughter and only got to see her "a few hours every week to ten days" and was not in a position to recognize the patterns. He could only accept the information his wife was feeding him.

3) The mother was, essentially, in control of everything he knew about his daughter. (I do wonder, however, why the courts did not grant the father custody of the children or if the separation is not yet followed by a divorce action and there was no court ruling on custody.)

4) The father, not being a medical professional, cannot be held at fault if the mother tells him some outrageous tale of malady and illness and does not allow him full access to his daughter because of the child's purported ailment.

Which brings me to my next point:

Allison-467021: I have a problem with Dr. Weiss who said, "Of course we feel guilty, we knew from early on that she had this" "But were reluctant to implicate the mother until they were 100% sure" is he kidding????

Allison, you are absolutely correct. Sadly, the Seattle Children's Hospital should be charged with a violation of the Child Abuse Protection Act. The law does not say the medical professional must report any known cases of child abuse. It states the medical professional[s] must report any SUSPECTED cases of abuse. It is not the hospital staff's place to investigate and substantiate any suspicions. They are merely to report what they may suspect could be an indication of abuse. It is the law enforcement agency's onus to investigate to prove or disprove the suspicions. Such reluctance on the part of medical professionals to report suspicions of abuse (in children and others as well) results in many deaths every year. They take the "safe" (for them) road of not accusing a parent of guardian because they don't want to accuse an innocent person but, in the end, they are taking the wrong road in not protecting the defenseless. And, since hospital emergency rooms see such a large number of these cases, their staffs need to be trained to report ANY suspicious injuries. And, if they don't, and someone dies as a result, they should be held accountable. In this case, Seattle Children's needs to be held accountable for their lack of action in the case. PERIOD. Perhaps, when states start taking action against such inaction, the attitude of such medical professionals will change.

And this is not to paint all medical professionals with the same broad and tarnished brush. Some will always err on the side of the possible victim. Some have even been chastised for being so "over" zealous. But, for a profession supposedly rooted in compassion, medical professionals who hesitate to report suspicions of abuse are not only in violation of civil law but are in exact contravention to their professional code of ethics. And, in that light, the treating physicians and staff of Seattle Children's Hospital who had any suspicioin of wrongdoing should be held responsible and the hospital should be censured for their lack of inaction. And, when you see someone with a condition which improves while the patient is in the hospital but immediately deteriorates when they are released back to their home environment, at the very least, that would suggest something is wrong in the home environment whether it is abuse or some environmental cause. In any case, it should be reported. Since the hospital was in a position to see this pattern (and, by their own admission they did) but did nothing to mitigate the injury to their patient, they should be held accountable.

  • 23 votes
#1.21 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:21 AM EDT

Someone should torture that b!tch. I volunteer..........

I hope that poor kid goes to someone that will care and love her like she deserves.

  • 9 votes
#1.22 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:31 AM EDT

Excellent point asknreceive. Parental demeanor is a huge part of child abuse investigations. It was Susan Smith's feigned 'crocodile tears' that made police suspect her in the murder of her sons. And lack of emotional response doesn't necessarily rule out Munchausen. In fact it's lack of emotion, or empathy, that allows it to occur.

Andrea Yates showed no emotion after drowning her children either, but her's was not a case of Munchausen. I believe she was diagnosed as schizophrenic, not with post-partum depression as claimed by the National Organization of Women who defended her. As would be expected, N.O.W. also blamed the husband.

  • 5 votes
#1.23 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:43 AM EDT

RevSpinnaker: "Most, not all, of the most heinous crimes against children are perpetrated by women."

Y'know, whether you call it 'egregious' one day and 'heinous' the next, you repeatedly make this unsubstantiated statement and it is patently untrue. (Which suggests you might have some personal issue with a woman or women in general and child abuse. This is something you should probably deal with outside of these forums rather than perpetuating a falsehood. Either that, or you need to clarify what constitutes 'heinous' in your book.)

As I tried to explain to you once before, the most instances of child abuse are perpetrated by women because mothers are, typically, most often the caregiver and are with the victim more often than men. However, the most violent, death or severe injury, crimes against children are generally perpetrated by men due in large part merely by the fact that men generally have a more muscular body and are able, with less effort to inflict more severe injuries. Furthermore, men tend to act out of anger while women act out of frustration. (Cases such as the Mothershead fall into a slightly different category as the perpetrator is, quite obviously, mentally deranged and frustration may or may not play a part in the abuse.)

More often than not, abuse resulting in hospitalizations, permanent injury, or death are, sadly, the domain of men. This may be a father but, in the majority of cases, the abuse involves a re-married woman or a single mother with a live-in or regularly present boyfriend. The substitute father has no emotional ties to the child and therefore has no emotional censor. He acts on a purely emotional level. The abuse may go on for months or years or it may be a short-lived pattern that quickly results in fatal injury.

Now this in no way addresses what may well be the most horrendous child abuse ... sexual abuse. This type of abuse, almost solely (though not, by any means exclusively) the domain of men, leaves damage to the victim which is not immediately evident and will cripple the victim for the rest of his or her life.

  • 14 votes
#1.24 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:44 AM EDT

Well Rev. You certainly found your story to back up your sterotype that mothers are monsters. I suppose we'll never hear the end of you now. Are you planning to tell the folks reading this story your sorrowfull tale of abuse at your own mothers screwed up hands so you can skew others opinions as you tried to do on the story of the tolddler who was run over by a woman driving the SUV backing out of a parking space??? Make sure you talk about Oprah and your airborne tampon campaign too!!!

  • 4 votes
#1.25 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:56 AM EDT

fSomething's wrong with officials in WA state. Waiting until they were 100% sure? They should take action at the First hint of a problem. Don't give the child to relatives unless they live in another state and have had no contact with the wacko mother. Any relative living nearby should have been aware she was nuts and not just stood by to see what happens.

  • 2 votes
#1.26 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:57 AM EDT

I have done childcare for over 18 years now and have seen first hand the effects of divorce. I am reluctant on blaming the father also. Only because I have had a few clients who kept the father and denied them access to the child as a punishment to the father. The eye drops were in a prescription bottle...only 4 hours weekly how was he suppose to know? They mention a second child, was there evidence of abuse in this child? If not then I honestly can't see how he would know. The ones I feel let this child down was the doctors in this case. They had all the proof they needed, and even suspected. I am trained to call in abuse if I suspect it. My home was registered with the state and I was required to take all types of classes including one on signs of child abuse. I am not saying I am an expert.

I can't imagine the horrible suffering this child endured at the hands of someone who was suppose to protect and love them. It reminds of the book "A Child Called It" written by Dave Pelzer. A true story of years of this type of abuse. His mom made him swallow bleach and he suffered horrible abuse. His mother also burned his hand over a gas stove. Our system fails children like this.The ones who seem to slip in the cracks.

I know that it is also used the wrong way too, as in what was reported above about the parents who children were taken away over this childs disease. I don't know the answers, but there has to be one. There has to be one that help children like these.There is too many cases!

I am crying now at the thought of all the children who suffer like this! They are so innocent and venerable! It breaks my heart! THERE HAS TO BE A SOLUTION!! I know of a many cases were on child is removed and the other ones stay...where is the logic in this???

  • 6 votes
#1.27 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:25 AM EDT

I have done childcare for over 18 years now and have seen first hand the effects of divorce. I am reluctant on blaming the father also. Only because I have had a few clients who kept the father and denied them access to the child as a punishment to the father. The eye drops were in a prescription bottle...only 4 hours weekly how was he suppose to know? They mention a second child, was there evidence of abuse in this child? If not then I honestly can't see how he would know. The ones I feel let this child down was the doctors in this case. They had all the proof they needed, and even suspected. I am trained to call in abuse if I suspect it. My home was registered with the state and I was required to take all types of classes including one on signs of child abuse. I am not saying I am an expert.

I can't imagine the horrible suffering this child endured at the hands of someone who was suppose to protect and love them. It reminds of the book "A Child Called It" written by Dave Pelzer. A true story of years of this type of abuse. His mom made him swallow bleach and he suffered horrible abuse. His mother also burned his hand over a gas stove. Our system fails children like this.The ones who seem to slip in the cracks.

I know that it is also used the wrong way too, as in what was reported above about the parents who children were taken away over this childs disease. I don't know the answers, but there has to be one. There has to be one that help children like these.There is too many cases!

I am crying now at the thought of all the children who suffer like this! They are so innocent and venerable! It breaks my heart! THERE HAS TO BE A SOLUTION!! I know of a many cases were on child is removed and the other ones stay...where is the logic in this???

  • 2 votes
#1.28 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:25 AM EDT

The "mother" should be put in prison for life and administered her own brand of eyedrops every hour, every day. Even after she goes blind, they'll hurt like HE!! and she'll be reminded of her heinous crime against her innocent child. Horrible. Like someone above said, I don't know why I let myself read this. I knew I was going to get SO ANGRY!

  • 4 votes
#1.29 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:25 AM EDT
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WHO PROTECTS THE CHILDREN!!

  • 4 votes
#1.30 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:26 AM EDT

thewordsmith...while your arguments and "facts" may be correct, you undermine yourself by making statements such as "obviously deranged". Do you know this woman? Do you know facts beyond what is reported here? Are you in a professional capacity that would enable you to make that diagnosis? You claim others statements are "unsubstantiated" and yet you freely and willingly make a statement that is also unsubstantiated.

By labeling her "mentally deranged" you are actually giving an excuse to her behavior. You make it seem like it is less of an offense because of a condition that she can not control. You made a claim to one of the posters here that he clearly has an issue with women. Do you have an issue with men? Would you have made the same claim if the aggressor in this case was a man? Or would you have simply labled him a child abuser, and not given him blanket protection unde rthe term "mentally deranged"?

I think everyone should be careful what they lable people without facts and when it is beyond our capability to do so. We see it every day how that can be dangerous. And yes, we have the right to do it, but all that usually means is that we have the right to make ourselves look like idiots.

  • 1 vote
#1.31 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:57 AM EDT

I'm against the death penalty but this "mother" should be put down for the sake of humanity. This story is disturbing, who could put bleach in a... I can't even say it. Horrific.

I'm for the death penalty for this very reason. I think its use should be expanded to include people like this "mother".

  • 3 votes
#1.32 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:23 AM EDT

thewordsmith: Before you accuse me of "perpetuating a falsehood," let's see your citations. As you may recall I'm culling mine from the Center for Disease Control, the American Psychiatric Foundation, the Federal Child Maltreatment reports...

As you stated:

"...the most instances of child abuse are perpetrated by women because mothers are, typically, most often the caregiver and are with the victim more often than men."

Yes I agree. And When Phil Donahue was confronted with that fact he dismissively responded, "Thats like saying more men hit homeruns." Your response is equally dismissive.

You claim:

" ...the most violent, death or severe injury, crimes against children are generally perpetrated by men..."

This is true for children older than five years. Younger than that the perpetrators are most exclusively women. The majority of child abuse and murder happens to children who are younger than five.

You again:

"Furthermore, men tend to act out of anger while women act out of frustration."

Where did you read that? Ms. Magazine? Citations please.

And again:

"More often than not, abuse resulting in hospitalizations, permanent injury, or death are, sadly, the domain of men."

That sounds like the fabricated March of Dimes study which proported 'Domestic Violence' was the leading cause of injury to the fetus. No such study existed and the March of Dimes said the statement was patently untrue. The most recent fabrication said DV was the primary cause of women admitted to the emergency room. Again, not even close. Then there's the spike in DV during the Superbowl hoax. Again, pulled out of thin air.

You are almost correct on this one:

"in the majority of cases, the abuse involves a re-married woman or a single mother with a live-in or regularly present boyfriend."

No... in the majority of cases it's the mother acting alone. Then comes the mother acting in conjunction with a paramour. Then the paramour acting alone. Then the mother in conjunction with the natural father. And last, the natural father acting alone. Children are safest in households where the natural father has a significant presence.

"Y'know, whether you call it 'egregious' one day and 'heinous' the next... you need to clarify what constitutes 'heinous' in your book."

I guess you've already done that for me.

"Now this in no way addresses what may well be the most horrendous child abuse ... sexual abuse. This type of abuse, almost solely (though not, by any means exclusively) the domain of men...

No doubt the majority of sexual abuse is perpetrated by men. That's why it's politically correct to talk about it. But keep in mind, as much as 30% of intrafamilial sexual abuse is perpetrated by females, moms, aunts caregivers... And thanks to political bias they are just finding out those statistics.

And there is something very unseemly about qualifying what constitutes "the most horrendous" child abuse because there's always a child that's had it worse. Do you really believe sexual abuse is worse than torturing a child? Are you actually saying this girl would have been worse off if she was sexually abused by her mother and not sadistically blinded?

  • 3 votes
#1.33 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:25 AM EDT

Once again, the argument of CHOICE is huge. Some people should NEVER, EVER have children. This woman is one of those. I am sure the child wishes she had never been born.

  • 2 votes
#1.34 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:30 AM EDT

Sometimes the courts need to get their heads out of the butts and realize that not all mothers are good mothers. Just because she can give birth, does not make her a motherly sort.

How many kids need to be abused before the court system realizes that?

This is a sick, twisted individual who needs to buried 10 ft under.

  • 4 votes
#1.35 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

Well done, court system.

    #1.36 - Tue May 1, 2012 11:02 AM EDT

    @thewordsmith, I beg to differ with you on 1 point, the medical staff, that includes doctors, charge nurses, nurses and certified nursing assistants are morally and legally bound to report all suspected abuse.

    When I was still working in nursing homes, medical rehab. hospitals and hospitals I was obligated to report to the patients nurse and so on up the food chain which does include reporting to the police. It's done all the time. When I moved to Colorado I found a patient with blisters and open sores from the waist down to just above the patients knees, I had to report my finding to the patients nurse and chart my findings. The nurse in this instance did nothing, like the doctors in this article. There came a time when the patient had to be rushed to ER for a different problem, so of course the ER nurse reported the same findings to the on duty charge nurse who in turn reported the findings to the on duty ER doctor. To sum it up, the ER charge nurse also called the police to make a report. Needless to say heads rolled at the nursing home and disciplinary action was also taken, because it takes 3 shifts to take care of 1 patient. What I had done was "cma" as we call it and that's exactly what happened at the ER---"cma",

    • 4 votes
    #1.37 - Tue May 1, 2012 11:15 AM EDT

    And another point @thewordsmith, when the hospital received the baby the 1st time and identified that something was wrong with her eyes, upon admission the nurse/certified nursing assistant was supposed to ask for the very same eye drops and any other medication that the baby was taking...period okay? In years gone by I have personally gone through even an adults weekender/tote/purse why? I was looking for medications that I suspected had been "forgotten", the reason being we don't want to over dose a patient who may be attempting to "self medicate" while in the hospital, etc.

    • 4 votes
    #1.38 - Tue May 1, 2012 11:31 AM EDT

    "Who the @!$%# is sick enough to do such a thing?! If you're criminally insane, should you really be excused for your crimes? Or should we put you down for the sake of everyone around you?"

    Shhh turn your Nazi thoughts off we don't need anymore repeats of this.

    • 1 vote
    #1.39 - Tue May 1, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

    One thing that need to change, which is illustrated in this story, is the stereotype in US court systems that in a divorce the woman allways gets primary care of the children. This story and countless other examples illustrate the fact that the psychological health and financial stability of each parent as an individual must be taken into account in order to determine the better parent to leave the child with, and NOT the gender of the parents. The gender should be ignored in custody cases.

    • 6 votes
    #1.40 - Tue May 1, 2012 11:48 AM EDT

    An observation to share: I saw a lot of early comments about the father, and thoughts that he sould have seen the abuse, or shold have known that something was wrong. There is a very big problem here. In divorces, or cases where there are custody/visitation disputes, the courts almost invariably seem to side with the woman. Had he filed a complaint, or request, he would likely have been ignored. Had he levelled (spelling?) charges of abuse (without absolutely ironclad proof [not easy to do]), again, he would likely have been ignored, or possibly had charges brought against himself or harrasing the mother. In this land of women's rights, and "men are evil" when it comes to divorce, the courts seem to almost invariably side with the woman; the man just doesn't seem to be able to win. It is those few cases where a man does seem to prevail in domestic litigation that reiniforces this impression.

    I tried to stay on subject here, and not slide into a rant. The subject/point was: "he's a male; he'd have most likely been ignored."

    • 6 votes
    #1.41 - Tue May 1, 2012 11:56 AM EDT

    may god be with this innocent child......

      #1.42 - Tue May 1, 2012 12:03 PM EDT

      I"t's time for women, especially feminists, to turn around and smell the kakapoohpooh! Most, not all, of the most heinous crimes against children are perpetrated by women. Yet we live in a country where the big pink elephant in the room is telling everyone that 'no woman would ever do that to her own child.' And we believe it. Hook, line and sinker."

      REv, why are feminists the ones who need to turn around and smell the kakapoohpooh? Nope it's the ones who are so holier than thou who don't believe that women are capable of these acts. Example, last night on Nancy Grace (who is as conservative as they come), one of the defense lawyers mentioned to her that one of the female witnesses shouldn't be dismissed as a person who may be involved in the case of the missing Tucson, Arizona girl and Nancy Grace went off yelling at him saying women don't do that. There are many who think that is true like me. I kept saying, Sandra Cantu case, (Melissa Huckabye killed her daughter's friend) and Alyssa Bustamante (killed her sister's friend).

      Trust me, I believe anyone is capable of any crime, so I don't discount a person based on gender. Anyway I say fry this bwitch.

      • 2 votes
      #1.43 - Tue May 1, 2012 12:03 PM EDT

      There sure seem to be a lot of parents out there, that shouldn't be parents !!!!!

      • 4 votes
      #1.44 - Tue May 1, 2012 12:07 PM EDT

      I live in Washington. I left my ex wife in late 2006. She was granted full custody. She has complete and total control over what my son does and when he can see me. She does not have to follow the parenting plan. There is not much a father in this state can do. If you take the mom to court, the system allows her to drag it out for months. If this father was trying to do anything on behalf of his daughter's welfare, I'm sure he was met with roadblock after roadblock. This state gives every benefit of the doubt to the mother and looks at fathers with contempt. I know it sounds like I'm whining, but take it from one who has been fighting this fight for over 5 years now. This father is not to blame.

      Also, has the fater been the one to bring the girl in to Children's, they would not have waited so long.

      • 4 votes
      #1.45 - Tue May 1, 2012 12:14 PM EDT

      Harry: I know what you mean. I went though it 40 years ago. A California divorce, when I was in Maryland, a Vietnam combat vet. Been there, endured that for 18 years, until my daughter was emancipated at age 21.

      • 3 votes
      #1.46 - Tue May 1, 2012 12:26 PM EDT

      Munchhausen by Proxy syndrome seems to be at play here. In MBPS, an individual — usually a mother — deliberately makes another person (most often his or her own preschool child) sick or convinces others that the person is sick. The parent or caregiver misleads others into thinking that the child has medical problems by lying and reporting fictitious episodes. He or she may exaggerate, fabricate, or induce symptoms. As a result, doctors usually order tests, try different types of medications, and may even hospitalize the child or perform surgery to determine the cause.

      Typically, the perpetrator feels satisfied by gaining the attention and sympathy of doctors, nurses, and others who come into contact with him or her and the child. Some experts believe that it isn't just the attention that's gained from the "illness" of the child that drives this behavior, but also the satisfaction in being able to deceive individuals that they consider to be more important and powerful than themselves.

      Because the parent or caregiver appears to be so caring and attentive, often no one suspects any wrongdoing. A perplexing aspect of the syndrome is the ability of the parent or caregiver to fool and manipulate doctors. Frequently, the perpetrator is familiar with the medical profession and is very good at fooling the doctors. Even the most experienced doctors can miss the meaning of the inconsistencies in the child's symptoms. It's not unusual for medical personnel to overlook the possibility of MBPS because it goes against the belief that a parent or caregiver would never deliberately hurt his or her child.

      • 2 votes
      #1.47 - Tue May 1, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

      Fred, I feel for ya. Trying to divorce someone from across the country sounds delightful. LOL

      • 2 votes
      #1.48 - Tue May 1, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

      Harry and Fred, are you aware that there is an organization that helps men get custody of their children or helps them out. I remember talking to an ex-boyfriend about that when he was fighting for custody of his children from a drug addicted girlfriend. I don't know what happened in his case (he had a history of drugs as well). Sorry that happened to you. BTW, i don't think women should automatically get custody because they are women and are supposed to be the better parents. I see men who are better parents than women and women who don't want to be bothered with their kids once they are born. Sad but true.

      • 4 votes
      #1.49 - Tue May 1, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

      @ valhallaarwen:

      "REv, why are feminists the ones who need to turn around and smell the kakapoohpooh?"

      The sole focus of feminist groups since the 70's has been for "women & girls" exclusively. All manner of social support systems, VAWA etc. are based on the iron-clad premise that violence against women & girls is a product of "male privilege" and "patriarchal oppression." If a social ill, like maternal child abuse or male victimization, doesn't fit into that ideology it is demeaned, diminished and forgotten.

      Nancy Grace has all the sensitivity of a lugnut. I'd rather listen to a chainsaw.

      • 2 votes
      #1.50 - Tue May 1, 2012 1:36 PM EDT
      • 2 votes
      #1.51 - Tue May 1, 2012 1:38 PM EDT

      Rev thanks for your response, but I disagree. I don't believe what you wrote and that is not the focus of the feminist movement. I was taught by my mother to depend on myself, yes, it's good to get help, but why rely on others when you can do for yourself. They are not the ones who are saying that material child abuse does not exist, it is those who believe that women are delicate and not capable. That is a method of the far right that women could never do anything evil, which is why when a woman is accused of a crime, it is oh she could never do that, for she is not that way. Women can be just as evil as a man. I would never call Nancy Grace a feminist, which she is not.

      Seriously, what feminist group has said that women could never commit crimes against children? Did they say Susan Smith didn't kill her boys? Did they say Andrea Yates could not have done it? Please clue me into which group said it. If anything, when a woman is accused, you always hear from family with that, oh I can't believe she could do it. When a female teacher is accused, why is it that there is denial from some that think it is impossible for a pretty teacher to be capable, but an ugly one yeah she's guilty. If anything, most of the feminist groups are upset when pretty teachers are considered innocent while ugly teachers are considered guilty. That is why I say anyone is considered a suspect.

      • 1 vote
      #1.52 - Tue May 1, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

      valhallaarwen, thank you for that link. No, I had no idea there was an organization like that. They don't advertise those things. I think out of fear of women's movements. LOL

      • 2 votes
      #1.53 - Tue May 1, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

      How fair are family courts to Men? Not very - There are documented case, in many... not just isolated cases - where courts will put a child in Foster care even if the father is able, willing and patitions the courts to be given custody of his child. If the father is not married to his Baby's moma - the a match in hell has better chance of not sponateously combuting than the father will to get custody.

      They may, give custody to an elderly parent or grandparent - but not to the father.

      1) The parents were separated.

      2) The father was not given open access to his daughter and only got to see her "a few hours every week to ten days" and was not in a position to recognize the patterns. He could only accept the information his wife was feeding him.

      3) The mother was, essentially, in control of everything he knew about his daughter. (I do wonder, however, why the courts did not grant the father custody of the children or if the separation is not yet followed by a divorce action and there was no court ruling on custody.)

      4) The father, not being a medical professional, cannot be held at fault if the mother tells him some outrageous tale of malady and illness and does not allow him full access to his daughter because of the child's purported ailment.

      He was lucky to even get visitation... as infrequent as that was. Family courts tend to see fathers as sperm donors - attached to an open wallet.

      • 2 votes
      #1.54 - Tue May 1, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

      Harry, no problem. I do believe the better parent should parent the child. I honestly don't remember how I found that but there it is. Please let other men know if they need help for their rights to get custody of their kids.

      • 1 vote
      #1.55 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:44 PM EDT

      Specifically what kind of damage to the child's eye is causing vision problems? Did the bleach damage the corneas? If that it the reason for the vision problems, perhaps they should transplant the corneas of the mother into the child so that she can again see well. Give the child's corneas back to the mother. Let her deal with the loss of vision for the rest of her life.

        #1.56 - Thu May 17, 2012 3:56 PM EDT
        Reply

        This is Munchausen by proxy until proved otherwise. Munchausen by proxy is NOT a mental disorder; it is a form of abuse that gives the mother emotional gratification. She may have other mental disorders, but there is no excuse for this behavior and she should be incarcerated for a long time.

        • 20 votes
        Reply#2 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:00 PM EDT

        Munchausen syndrome by proxy IS listed in the DSM as a form of factitious disorder. It is actually fairly common, so the doctors here really dropped the ball by not suspecting it sooner. I agree the fact that the mom apparently has this disorder does not excuse her behavior, but it goes a long way in explaining it. (And could have pointed her child's doctors to the correct treatment, i.e. removal of the child from the home followed by treatment for the child's injuries MUCH sooner than it did.)

        • 19 votes
        #2.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:46 PM EDT

        By proxy she should be put in Prison with a child tormentor label label and let the inmates take natures course.......

        • 13 votes
        #2.2 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:08 PM EDT

        The sanctity of traditional marriage and traditional family values. Thank GOD ALMIGHTY she didn't do something truly evil like sin with another woman!(sarcasm)

        • 3 votes
        #2.3 - Tue May 1, 2012 1:43 AM EDT

        I'm not sure what "traditional family values" have anything to do with this--don't get me wrong, I'm against the conservative notion of "family values", but this really isn't about societal views. It's about an insane criminal.

        • 4 votes
        #2.4 - Tue May 1, 2012 2:50 AM EDT

        Devil's Son: I get your point, but I'm not sure that this story needs to be politicized.

        • 6 votes
        #2.5 - Tue May 1, 2012 7:28 AM EDT

        @ Astro:

        "...but I'm not sure that this story needs to be politicized."

        I disagree, that's precisely what this story needs. Dr. Munchausen is exactly right. I include Munchausen in sentencing guidelines I've suggested as a provision for Barbara Boxer's Violence Against Children Act.

        Barbara Boxer's Violence Against Children Act

        Provision Suggestions: *(Includes provision for Caylee's Law)

        Congressional Bill S. 1370 was sponsored by Barbara Boxer [D-CA] and introduced in 2009. The last actions pursuant to the bill were that it was read twice and then referred to the Committee on the Judiciary. I propose the following punitive guidelines to the Committee, to be established in accordance with the redefinition of child abuse in terms of Pathological Malnurturing, as the foundation of the Violence Against Children Act. The Malnurturing format of defining child abuse clarifies succinct categories of specific criminal pathologies, with assigned punitive ramifications. As a legal definition “neglect” is vague, ineffective and antiquated. “Felony neglect” is an oxymoron, not a viable sentencing guideline.

        Definitions of the Pathologies of Malnurturing.

        Abandonist: Deliberate emotional and affectionate rejection of a child.

        Isolationist: Social and/or physical isolation of a child, with deliberate intent to allow the child to fall into harms way. *Includes but not limited to, failure to report the abuse, disappearance or death of a child.

        Opportunist: Having or exploiting a child for personal gain, sadistic gratification or profit, including but not limited to, selling a child into prostitution or slavery. Using a child to seek revenge against a spouse.

        The motivations for Malnurturing.

        Delusional: Harming a child as a result mental illness and/or alcohol and drug addictions. Also, but not limited to, cult or religious fanaticism, as with denial of medical care or the Jim Jones massacre.

        Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy: Physically or psychologically abusing a child to garner attention by creating false medical traumas, illnesses and psychoses. The later is particularly applicable in “reality TV” i.e. Munchausen by Dr. Phil.

        Homicidal: Susan Smith, who brutally drowned her two boys, to be free to divorce her husband and marry a wealthy man.

        Sentencing guidelines for these Pathologies are assigned according to:

        a) results in emotional and/or psychological damage to a child.

        b) results in physical and/or sexual abuse, starvation, disappearance or abduction of a child.

        c) results in the death of a child.

        According to the Center for Disease Control: American women kill more of their own children than any other mothers in the industrialized world. This represents a 25 % increase since 1985. With these new guidelines Casey Anthony would have been charged as an 'Isolationist Malnurturer, resulting in the death of a child,' and received a mandatory sentence accordingly.

        The woman in this case should be charged with opportunist malnurturing, as she appears to have abused the child to hurt the father or for her own sadistic pleasure. She was motivated by Munchausen by Proxy, that resulted in severe and permanent physical damage to a child.

        • 3 votes
        #2.6 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:19 AM EDT

        So your a Doctor, physchiatrist, lawmaker, attorney and a Reverend too??? Or just somebodies patient who has gone off his meds??

        • 4 votes
        #2.7 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:00 AM EDT

        Devil's Son...what does this have to do with anything in this story? Is anyone giving a pass to this woman because she is heterosexual? And should people be able to use the many instances of male pedophiles abusing little boys as an argument against gay marriage and/or gay adoption? The fact is, her being a straight woman, married and seperated from a man has nothing to do with her abusing this child.

        • 1 vote
        #2.8 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:08 AM EDT

        30% of American children have no fathers in their lives. While children are most vulnerable to abuse, under 4, typical fathers spend little time with children as compared to mothers. Factor in the amount of time each gender spends with their children and a different picture emerges.

          #2.9 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:25 AM EDT

          skrewdworld: I consider myself a children's rights advocate (CRA). Obviously you're not.

          • 2 votes
          #2.10 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:37 AM EDT

          The mother appeared unperturbed and said the child's eyes had been swollen shut for four weeks. If she had Munchhausen by proxy, she would have rushed the child to the hospital every single day, screaming in panic.

          • 1 vote
          #2.11 - Tue May 1, 2012 1:46 PM EDT
          Reply

          WTF is wrong with people?!

          • 16 votes
          Reply#3 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:01 PM EDT

          Take your pick:

          • Mental problems
          • Social problems
          • Financial problems
          • Family problems
          • Relationship problems (girl friend, boy friend)
          • Work problems
          • Technology problems
          • Mortgage problems
          • Vehicle problems
          • Drug problems
          • Alcohol problems
          • ....et al.
          • 8 votes
          #3.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:52 PM EDT

          I'll go with just plain phucked in the head.

          • 12 votes
          #3.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 5:37 AM EDT

          @howmanyfingers

          I'm going with your conclusion...........If they had never mentioned mental instability, I guarantee she would get a fitting sentence, but since they mentioned that and the fact that the house was littered with court documents, she was mentally unstable. Good looking ahead, for the accusation, and using her insanity to defend her actions, will put her in a psych ward for awhile, then back on the streets to get pregnant again, and repeat the abuse. Seems she couldn't get over the separation from her husband..Sad story. The child will become another cost to the state (taxpayers) for permanent health care.

          • 1 vote
          #3.3 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:05 AM EDT

          ldo: Are you listing problems or excuses?

          • 2 votes
          #3.4 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:57 AM EDT

          He's listing conditions turned into problems when stuff like this happens XD

          • 1 vote
          #3.5 - Tue May 1, 2012 12:09 PM EDT
          Reply

          OK. Where are all the people who were criticizing Grampa and Gramma for drunkenly towing their grandchild and her Barbie car from their SUV? They made a stupid decision not a malicious one like this.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#4 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:01 PM EDT

          I'm damn curious about the "mandated reporting laws" in Washington. In my state (I work in child welfare and understand our laws) if a professional (doctor, social worker, nurse, etc.) "has reason to believe" that child abuse is occurring they are required by law to report it and let those who are trained in the investigation of child abuse determine if it's happened. If these "professionals" practiced in my state they'd be charged with ignoring those laws because they were trying to be "100 percent certain" and a child suffered needlessly while they tried to figure it out.

          • 15 votes
          #4.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:40 PM EDT

          It seems to swing wildly from state to state! Some places parents are turned over to social services in a blink of the eye for nothing...other states it's has to get this far before someone takes action! Seems we need more training for professionals on how to spot true abuse and how to properly report it!

          • 3 votes
          #4.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 3:50 AM EDT

          @Lisa Ann:

          "It seems to swing wildly from state to state!"

          That's exactly why we need to enact Barbara Boxer's (D-CA) Violence Against Children Act, to establish national standards and guidelines for dealing with and prosecuting child abuse.

          • 1 vote
          #4.3 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:03 AM EDT

          Lisa Ann Lowry-Johnson, You are correct that more training of professionals is needed but it is not necessarily a matter of spotting "true abuse" or how to properly report it and this is not a state centered issue. It is more a matter of any individual medical care facility and the people who populate that facility as the standards in one hospital or facility within the same state may vary wildly from another.

          The problem seems to be that the standards need to be held uniformly throughout the nation and not left to the whims or sensibilities of one person or group of persons. The medical professionals are not charged with reporting cases of "true" abuse but with any 'suspected' cases of abuse. That means that they do not necessarily need to have absolute proof that abuse has occurred, only the suggestion that abuse might have occurred. This places a much higher standard of conduct on the medical professional. (This same standard holds for educational professionals who are in a position to see children on a regular basis for several hours a day and may be the first ones to notice some aberration - even before the child ends up in the care of a medical person.) As I stated previously, it is not within the spectrum of responsibility of the professional, whether medical or educational, to prove, or to have absolutely unwavering confidence in, an accusation of child abuse. It is merely their responsibility to report the suspicion of such abuse. The investigation into such suspicions lies solely within the purview of law enforcement. For this, better training and awareness of their responsibility is key.

          • 2 votes
          #4.4 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:06 AM EDT

          thewordsmith...not to be picky, but you state that this issue should be "not left to the whims or sensibilities of one person or group of persons" in your argument that this should be nationalized. Now, I do not report to be against the nationalization of this, but yoru statement is flawed. You want the government, which is by nature "group of persons" to control, not just a state, but every state. So you actually want to give a VERY small group of people even MORE control, based on their "whims or sensibilities". Again, I am not saying I am against this, but you should be careful what you state, as you often contracdict yrouself, and it gets harder for people to take seriously the intent of yoru message when you continue to do so.

          Also, as an argument against nationalization and these laws in general...many families have been harrassed, children intimidated by teachers and medical professionals who SUSPECT something is wrong with no proof. The following investigations can be disruptive and harmful to the family as a whole, and there are cases where it actualy bred a distrust between child and parent.

          In addition, there is the argument that those in the medical profession are there to do THAT job, not social services. While I believe there was probably enough cause for concern, especially when the facility admits as much, their true purpose is to heal. That is their priority. As soon as you start distracting these life-savers from that mission, healthcare and treatment suffer. Isn;t there a valid argument that the hospital should not be forced to provide the service and function,a nd should actually be taken care of by a third party? At the tax payers expense, not the facilities?

          • 1 vote
          #4.5 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:17 AM EDT

          Sorry Rev...but giving things to the national government is not always the answer. Look how they have ruined everything else they have touched.

            #4.6 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:19 AM EDT

            Some Lame...sorry, but you could not be more wrong. They would have made a decision...in fact a series of decisions to get them to that point.

              #4.7 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:21 AM EDT

              eric60watts: I'm not saying we give child rearing responsibilities over to the government. I'm suggesting a broad based public awareness program of proactive education, standardized reporting and sentencing guidelines and stronger outreach facilities for those children who have been effected.

              Also I think more children fall through the cracks of social services or are not reported by teachers and medical staff, than those who are victims of unwarrantedsuspicions. Though in custady battles the false accusations are more common.

                #4.8 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:49 AM EDT
                Reply

                I sure as hell hope this woman is found insane. If not, I hope her cellmates put bleach in HER eys for a few months. Yeah, I know she'll scream and they'll have to hold her down, but what do you think this woman did for her TODDLER?!!??!!

                • 11 votes
                Reply#5 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:08 PM EDT

                Docsuby, you are right to reserve on the insanity issue and I agree. I am a long-time lawyer admittted in three states and can say with feeling if ever there was a case for "an eye for an eye" I'd say this is it. In fact, once the treatment is complete she should be released from jail with the clothes on her back pointed towards the nearest dumpster for a snack. Why should taxpayers cover that monster?

                • 7 votes
                #5.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:51 PM EDT

                Addendum to PMFog: And after being sterilized so she can't have more children, for heaven's sake!

                • 4 votes
                #5.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 2:33 AM EDT

                Darlin, for some strange reason we can't "force" a child abuser to be sterilized. Some people think that would be cruel.

                • 2 votes
                #5.3 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:08 AM EDT

                janellect: And ironically the same ones are all for castrating rapists.

                • 2 votes
                #5.4 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:07 AM EDT

                Agree with Lisa. I don't understand though how this hospital couldn't realize the childs eyes were being burned. The medicated eye drops she was on were supposed to have this as a side effect??? IF so then nobody should be treated with that particular med ever again!!! Had a family member investigated and harrased for a month over a bruise on her sons ear. There was no abuse present at all but the powers that be got to play their games, disrupt the entire families lives and terrorize my 6 year old nephew for something as ridiculous as a tiny bruise. Yet here we are wit hthis toddler and nobody did anything?? Doctors, hospitals, schools and child prtective services themselves need much better training. I once called childrens services on a couple who had their sisters 3 kids. They were living with no running water, no electricity, the adults were doing drugs. One of the kids told me he was given a pill so he'd go to sleep because he had complained about being hungry. Called for an investigation and they did go to the house but dropped investigating because the couple had pit bulls that were trained to be aggressive and they wouldn't let them in the house. Go figure?!!?

                • 1 vote
                #5.5 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:12 AM EDT

                Rev, really? You know for a fact that the ones against child abusers being sterilized are the same ones as are all for castrating rapists? Seems you like to make statements of facts when you have none to support it. Certainly does not go far in establishing any sort of validity to anything you say.

                • 2 votes
                #5.6 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:24 AM EDT

                Got me on this one eric60watts. But you have to admit,we hear a lot more about sexual abuse in the media which brings out the castration comments. And look at the laughingstock the media made of Lorena Bobbit. A lot of people were acting like he deserved it when his only crime was being a jerk.

                  #5.7 - Tue May 1, 2012 11:20 AM EDT
                  Reply

                  Hope dad gets custody. My bet is he fought in court and lost. This woman is insane and hopefully will never, ever be allowed an unsupervised visit with her children again. The poor little one has her eyes ruined for life. So hope this woman rots in prison for equally as long.

                  • 19 votes
                  Reply#6 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:17 PM EDT

                  Screw visits, this woman doesn't deserve ANY type of contact with her children ever again! Permanent revocation of parental rights, and a court order to stay at least 100 miles away from them. That is, if she ever makes it out of prison alive!

                  • 5 votes
                  #6.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:07 AM EDT

                  Wasn't she a teacher? Wonder what she did to her students?

                  • 1 vote
                  #6.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:02 AM EDT

                  Sorry, I read it wrong. The Dad is a math teacher.

                  • 1 vote
                  #6.3 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:13 AM EDT
                  Reply

                  What a sick bitch!

                  • 18 votes
                  Reply#7 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:30 PM EDT

                  What a sick bitch!

                  • 9 votes
                  Reply#8 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:34 PM EDT

                  You won't see me say otherwise.

                  • 5 votes
                  #8.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:39 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  Hopefully, the damage won't result in permanent blindness.

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#9 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:41 PM EDT

                  I wish I hadn't read this.

                  • 19 votes
                  Reply#10 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:44 PM EDT

                  Me too.

                  • 1 vote
                  #10.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:08 PM EDT

                  Me three. I feel like I just swallowed a batch of poison. . .sickening!

                  • 1 vote
                  #10.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:12 AM EDT

                  Sometimes it's tough to face reality, but we must in order to establish a proactive stance against child abuse. Because there's always be a child who's had it worse than the next.

                  @ Orlando Sentinal:

                  AKERSFIELD, Calif. — A 4-year-old boy may be permanently blinded because his dad bit out one of his eyes and mutilated the other, police said.

                  Police said 34-year-old Angel Vidal Mendoza appeared to be under the influence of PCP when he bit his son's eye out April 28.

                  Can't help but to cry. But we need to turn our tears into activism and pass Barbara Boxer's Violence Against Children Act. It's long overdue.

                  • 3 votes
                  #10.3 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:22 AM EDT

                  Put bleach in the mom's eyes. Daily. Until she's completely blind.

                  • 1 vote
                  #10.4 - Tue May 1, 2012 11:58 AM EDT
                  Reply

                  Don't really care if she is mentally unbalanced, take her out back, put one in her head and bury her in an unmarked grave.

                  • 18 votes
                  Reply#11 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:44 PM EDT

                  I'll supply the bullet.

                  • 9 votes
                  #11.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:48 PM EDT

                  Burying her is too much of a kindness.

                  • 5 votes
                  #11.2 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:29 PM EDT

                  It's not out of kindness to her, it's so that nobody has to smell her $hit any longer.

                  • 7 votes
                  #11.3 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:39 PM EDT

                  B Murphy:

                  I'm with you. If you need any help with this "treatment," let me know........

                  • 2 votes
                  #11.4 - Tue May 1, 2012 2:14 AM EDT
                  Reply

                  Give her death by a thousand cuts and throw her in a pool of bleach

                  • 9 votes
                  Reply#12 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:51 PM EDT

                  Whiskey tango foxtrot that mom should be recycled.

                  • 6 votes
                  Reply#13 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:51 PM EDT

                  But, not reused!! Recycling? I don't think she needs anymore chances.

                  • 4 votes
                  #13.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:09 PM EDT
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                  This is just so tragic and so very sad... my heart aches for the innocent baby girl.

                  • 6 votes
                  Reply#14 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:55 PM EDT

                  Great job, Seattle Children's Hospital! After an entire year of seeing the trauma this child was subjected to, they would not question the Mother because they were, " Reluctant to implicate the mother until we were 100 percent sure.” By all means, lets not upset the Mother. How can people be expected to stand up and report abuse when large institutions are too cowardly to?

                  • 15 votes
                  Reply#15 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:58 PM EDT

                  An eye for an eye...mother should get daily eye drops of bleach while in jail...Dr. Weiss should go to jail too as an accomplice to this criminal act of inflicting excruciating pain since he allowed this little girl to severely suffer for so long...did he not even alert law enforcement and child protective services when he suspected this heinous, horrific abuse was occurring on an ongoing basis...it should have been handed over to law enforcement at the first hint of mistreatment to investigate and implicate the parent(s), not for Dr. Weiss to wait and see if the child came in later with enough evidence of abuse on her body so he could feel 100% sure...come on, how much reasonable suspicion do you need? I accidentally got dishwashing liquid in my eye once and that felt like acid burning through my cornea, couldn't open my eye for 3 days...I cannot imagine if it had been bleach instead of soap and my mother was forcing me to open my eyes every day to put in more!

                  • 7 votes
                  #15.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 12:51 AM EDT

                  If we did the same back to the mother it would be called cruel and unusual punishment!!

                  • 1 vote
                  #15.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:16 AM EDT
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                  PLEASE place her in a prison's general population and let them all know what she did.

                  Justice will be served properly.

                  • 7 votes
                  Reply#16 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:02 PM EDT

                  "Weiss said the situation did not appear to be a case of Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome"

                  Noooooooooo. How about BIOTCH by Proxy Syndrome ? You know, where the vengeful, spiteful witch is willing to go to any lengths to prevent "her" child from spending time with her father ???

                  Been there, done that, and seen it a bunch of times.............. Glad THIS one will be put out of her childs misery.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#17 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:15 PM EDT

                  Code of Hammurabi time!!

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#18 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:17 PM EDT

                  Vote up for the historical reference.

                    #18.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:35 AM EDT
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                    Courts routinely fail children of mentally ill parents. All too often protecting the parent's right to parent takes precedence over the child's right not to be subjected to damaging abnormal behavior.

                    • 6 votes
                    Reply#19 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:19 PM EDT

                    Been there, lived through that, haven't talked to the parent who was primary custodian in a very long time. I completely agree with what you say.

                    • 2 votes
                    #19.1 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:17 PM EDT

                    True. Been there done that here too. Back when I was a kid no one even bothered to ask. It was all family business and no one did a thing. No courts ever got involved until way later...it's a bit better, but obviously we have tons of a way to go to be right.

                    • 4 votes
                    #19.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 12:47 AM EDT

                    Courts are so quick to side with a mentally ill mother than an amazing and fit father. The kids suffer so much and there's nothing to do about it. The court system needs to be changed or the biased judges need to be knocked off the bench. As a stepmother to children with a mother that's a pathological liar and unfit mother, nothing can be done to get these kids help through the courts no matter how hard we've tried, and they're very slowly and surely turning into her. Judges side with mom and believe her outrageous lies and bullcrap.

                    Totally off topic, sorry. I think this mother is a horrible person and I bet anything that if the father tried to get custody initially, without some obvious fatal flaw of the mother, at best dad gets visitation. it's not fair

                      #19.3 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:14 AM EDT
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                      If found guilty, put her in a big yard with river rock and a wheel barrow. Move rock from one side to the other side until sane. Then do it again tomorrow or the next ten years whatever is longer.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#20 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:44 PM EDT

                      Everyone takes a test just to drive a car. But any psycho, room temperature IQ, mouth-breathing moron can have a kid.

                      WTF, over.

                      • 8 votes
                      Reply#21 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:45 PM EDT

                      Sadly this isn't a shock for some poor kids with VERY crappy mothers! The courts side with giving the mother full custody and gives little rights to the father. Unfortunately other 3rd party groups like doctors or other social services officials wait a LOOOONG time, about 5 years or more sometimes, to deem the parent un-fit. I know this since my brother in law's ex girlfriend was a damn lunatic who smoked, drunk a lot and took to many medical drugs in her pregnancy that her daughter has diabetes at age 10, she's obese and has asthma.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#22 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:50 PM EDT

                      It goes both way, so I think bashing mothers isn't the answer here. I have seen kids handed over to messed up fathers, too, and the mothers who tried to help them were called names and assumed to be crazy until something happened to the kids at the hands of the fathers.

                      I'm not by any means saying all mothers are great and dads aren't, but just saying this goes both ways. Cruel and sick parents come in male and female both, and the courts don't always rule that mom gets the kids. The whole system is a mess.

                      • 3 votes
                      #22.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 12:50 AM EDT
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                      Let's give mommy bleach injections!

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#23 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:53 PM EDT

                      I don't think whether the mother was horribly mean or is mentally ill isn't the scope of the problem now. The problem is the tragedy of that little girl who has been so terribly hurt. I wonder if she will be safe with anyone from that family, and just what will happen to her? That poor little girl. My heart aches for her.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#24 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:56 PM EDT

                      The baby that was hurt will probably be institutionalized, her other baby will go to family members. And I agree, the nut doesn't fall far from the tree. I wouldn't trust a family member.

                      • 2 votes
                      #24.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:06 AM EDT

                      Other news sites have a better written article. The baby has been placed with the Dad.

                      • 3 votes
                      #24.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 9:14 AM EDT
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                      Systemic sexism must stop. What did the father do that he was automatically the suspect? Why does our society inherently blame the father? The vast majority of child abuse is perpetrated by the mother, why does society not automatically look at her when these things are happening? Instead we go out of our way to make excuses as to why it couldn't be the mother when the answer is painfully obvious.

                      http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm03/figure3_6.htm

                      http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm03/figure4_2.htm

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#25 - Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:15 PM EDT

                      It's because fathers have no rights in this country anymore. Especially if the mother is attractive, then she can just about get away with anything. Beautiful looking people have better chance of succeeding in this world, no matter what it is, getting a good job, winning in court, etc. The father probably had a parking ticket 10 years ago, so he is an unfit parent. And all of you man haters out there blaming the father, that is B.S. If she would not allow him to administer the eye drops, then she would know he would smell the bleach, and if it was me, the minute I smelled the bleach, I would have forcibly removed her from her custody and taken the baby to the hospital. Arrest me I don't care. but she would never see the baby again, I would hide the child from her and the authority's

                      • 3 votes
                      #25.1 - Tue May 1, 2012 8:21 AM EDT

                      Not always true - My youngest son was divorced a long time ago and got custody of his 2 sons. The mother wasn't abusing them exactly, she was just not watching them when she was sleeping after a long night of partying. The only one responsible is the abuser. The partner, married or divorced, is only responsible if they know about the abuse and do nothing - that applies regardless of the gender.

                      • 2 votes
                      #25.2 - Tue May 1, 2012 10:35 AM EDT
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