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Subscribe to RSSGeorge Zimmerman's attorney defends his move to the Web as a counter to fake sites. Cara Moore of NBC station WESH of Orlando, Fla., reports.
George Zimmerman, who's charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, was the owner of an old Myspace page featuring slurs against Mexicans, his lawyer has confirmed to the Miami Herald.
Posting under the pseudonym "Joe G,"Zimmerman wrote about "mexicans walkin on the side of the street, soft a-- wanna be thugs messin with peoples cars when they aint around" and "gettin knifes pulled on you by every mexican you run into!"
Read the full story at The Miami Herald
The discovery adds another social media element to a case that came to national attention largely through Twitter and Facebook. After initially having ordered Zimmerman to scrub his social media history, his lawyer, Mark O'Mara, has embraced a controversial social media strategy to keep the defense side of the case in the spotlight, complete with its own website.
Msnbc.com's Suzanne Choney has examined the ramifications of attorneys using social media to make their cases in public:
The American Bar Association's standards of professional conduct does not deal with social media, a spokesman for the ABA told msnbc.com, but "it's certainly going to be on everyone's radar screen" now.
Stephen A. Saltzburg, a member of the ABA's governing body, the House of Delegates, and former chairman of the ABA's criminal justice section, said "generally speaking, lawyers are not supposed to be making public statements that could compromise a fair trial."
Whether the Zimmerman social media effort will do that would be up to a judge, Saltzburg said.
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A question for the Trayvon bashing racists:
If Trayvon did do some dumb-atypical teenaged-stuff like smoke weed or get suspended from school for skipping HOW DO WE KNOW ABOUT IT?
ANSWER: HE GOT CAUGHT. Then he got kicked out of school for a few days and THAT WAS HIS PUNISHMENT...NOT GETTING MURDERED BY SOME RACIST STALKER!
here is the problem in post #76. he thinks being kicked out of school three times is normal teenage behavior. and bringing a baggie to school that was used to hold pot.
sure all teenagers do this!!
BECOLD you are a racist. You need to let the court sort it out not YOU RACIST. JUDGEMENTAL FREAK have you ever heard of innocent till proven guilty.
If the thug would not of came back to attack GZ he would still be alive to attack you because that how he rolls.
Get over yourself.
lol @ everyone calling trayvon a thug because of his school days. Hey if someone were stalking me i would have came after him too :)
miss, then apparently you are a thug as well, and you might be surprised when you discover the person may be armed and might not just let you attack them.
Sorry miss I called him a thug because he came back and attacked GZ that is why he got shot.
If he was NOT a thug he would of went home like he his parents claim he was doing.
You do not ask to meet the POLICE if you are planning on shooting someone.
Lol i am a thug? For what? for wanting sticking up for myself? Zimmerman assumed, and killed trayvon. He should have never been stalking him in the first place. :)
Like i said before steve. If someone were stalking me i would do something about it...doesnt make me a thug @ Justice.
Do you know a lot of 17 year old ninth graders?
If someone was stalking me, I would call 911.
steve-1962
BECOLD you are a racist. You need to let the court sort it out not YOU RACIST. JUDGEMENTAL FREAK have you ever heard of innocent till proven guilty.
If the thug would not of came back to attack GZ he would still be alive to attack you because that how he rolls.
Get over yourself.
So steve which one are you, the racist or the bigot? Do you even proof read your thoughts? or do you think you're that original? By the way, why should zimmer have a chance in court? Obviously he didn't believe in your statement of innocent until proven guilty in the court of law. But hey, making up stuff is much more fun isn't it.
Cool Steven.
Steven B
He turned 17 on Feb 5, 2012, and he was a JUNIOR in high school!
All this proves is that there are a lot of ignorant people out there who feel so badly about themselves that they find it necessary to criticize other for no reason whatsoever. George knows he's a rat, and the only thing he wants is to be better than someone else.......anyone else. He knows he's missed the boat. Unfortunately in order to feed his feelings of inadequacy, Trayvon had to pay the ultimate price. Too bad......it didn't solve his problem, he's still and always will be just not good enough.
Guess there were a lot of things going on in Zimmerman's head that night---those things probably fueled his actions.
I don't think a lot of things were going on in zimmer's head that night. I don't think he has the brain capacity to do such.
I wonder what might go through your head while it's being slammed into concrete.
AndyAW
Since there is NO evidence suggesting any such thing, ole zimmie probably wonders that TOO!
No evidence? Have you not seen the picture of the blood covered back of Zim's head? That along with an eyewitness report that Zim was taking a beating are what we like to call evidence. Just because the inept prosecutor left those little details out of her probable cause affidavit doesnt make them disappear.
AndyAW
There are some here who would not believe he was getting his head beat if MSNBC had a video showing exactly that. Yet they admit there was a physical altercation where George was getting his azz kicked and feel George over reacted by defending himself.
trust,
I agree, and to them I would say only this..
776.012 Use of force in defense of person.—A person is justified in using force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force.
However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if:
(1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony; or
(2) Under those circumstances permitted pursuant to s. 776.013.
AndyAW
I've presented that and the rest of FL Statute 776. Many want to present that George failed to follow "orders" from the Dispatcher or that by "following" Trayvon he was somehow causing Trayvon distress to the point that Trayvon was justified to using force and George was not entitled to defend himself.
I personally was against George when this first came out. I still believe he acted FOOLISHLY in many of his actions that night. That does not remove the fact that he was entitled to defend himself under 776.
Identifying with his "white side", and that side noted that Hispanics (in his neighborhood) have a penchant for knifes.
He didn't say hispanics he said Mexicans. I thought his dad kept saying my son is in no way a racist. Care to follow that up Daddy Zimmerman?
Someone please tell me how calling a Mexican 'Mexican' is racist.
Where is his threat to run over mexicans? You must have a serious problem with reading comprehension:
“I dont miss driving around scared to hit mexicans walkin on the side of the street, soft ass wanna be thugs messin with peoples cars when they aint around (what are you provin, that you can dent a car when no ones watchin) dont make you a man in my book,” the 2005 Myspace page said. “Workin 96 hours to get a decent pay check, gettin knifes pulled on you by every mexican you run into!”
Sounds to me like he is talking about being SCARED of hitting them because they are in the middle of the streets messing with peoples' cars. As in he doesn't WANT to hit them. But, go ahead, just make up your own story.
"I don't miss driving around scared..." = I don't miss the past when I was scared..." = Now I don't care about them so I don't worry about their safety as I am driving.
Ahhh... yes, that makes it fit when you cut out the whole part where he finishes the sentence by explaining what he is scared of! You have a goldmine there!
Hasn't that been the problem all along: twisting things to try to make them fit? Or coming up with conspiracy theories to dismiss the obvious facts?
Have your fun. None of your conspiracy theories are going to win this case. Sorry
I was just doing the grammar. (Nothing there that said he WANTED to hit them.)
hmmm this is a tough call. But point goes to you all have thoughtful comments.
If I recall correctly, his [Mexicans in the street] comment was in reference to him leaving Manassas, VA. Not in reference to developing a sudden apathy to running them over.
Surprise, surprise! The man who shot and killed an unarmed African-American teenage boy for "looking suspicious" is racist.
You mean he shot the unarmed person that ATTACKED him. Not because he looked suspicious that is why he followed him till the 911 operator told him they did not need him to follow the suspect. Then GZ headed back to his SUV to meet the police.
You do NOT offer to meet the police if you are planning on killing someone TROLL.
You really dont know what happend steve.
Do any of us know exactly what happened that night? NO
Neither do you so let the police and courts settle it.
Yeah steve, let the court settle it. Your just picking one side!
Steve you're proving to be a one sided coin, you could be counterfeit, not worth much.
The lead homocide detective testified at the bond hearing that they have ZERO evidence to contradict Zim's claim that TM attacked him. Sounds like a heap of reasonable doubt to me.
AndyAW
NONE to support his claim either!
There doesnt have to be ANYTHING to support his claim if the prosecution can't prove he wasn't attacked. I know this seems like an archaic statement to those who have already convicted Zim but in this country we are presumed innocent until proven guilty. An awfully tall task when there is no evidence to support it.
AndyAW,
If GZ wants to invoke the SYG law, he, GZ, has to prove to a judge that he was in fear for his life!
AndyAW
More specifically the prosecution would have to prove that George was the one who started the physical altercation. ALL they have at the moment is that there was some sort of physical encounter and George shot Trayvon. That about sums up the case evidence that we are aware of.
(3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.
Thank you for PROVING Trayvon had the RIGHT to stand his ground!
They have to prove more than just Zim started the fight. Even if he did (and there is ZERO proof of this) he still has a right to defend himself to prevent severe injury or death. If he started it, he loses SYG coverage but that doesnt matter as being pinned to the ground pretty much exhausts your option to flee.
People can't just go around starting fights, and then pulling a gun out cause they are getting their ASS kicked!
Until the physical altercation NEITHER had the right to self defense. No one has ever disputed Trayvon would have the right to protect himself.. but the Martin camp has INSISTED that George never retained the right of self defense. e.g.
There is no evidence as to who started the physical altercation... as testified to by the lead detective. ALL we have is Georges statement.
Under Self Defense, even the old one, George had no option to retreat as he was on the ground with Trayvon on top. Under current SYG George had no OBLIGATION to retreat.
You know it's not a good sign when you have to come up with conspiracy theories to make your narrative fit. Looking on the Miami Herald, they are discussing the whole screwdriver incident and suggesting that someone must have planted that stuff in Trayvon's bag. lol
I can't make up my mind whether these people are completely stupid or just having fun at the expense of this case. Do they really believe this crap?
What screwdriver
The screwdriver and jewlery that were found in Trayvon's backpack along with the empty pot baggy and pot pipe. The school security guard described the large screwdriver as a "burglary tool."
This is why Trayvon was suspended from school.
Not relevent to this case, just shows the type of person we are talking about.
He would still be alive to steal more stuff if he did NOT come back after he ran away.
No, not relevant. I was just commenting on the extent that the Trayvon supporters go to somehow change the facts of everything to better fit their narrative.
Steve - 1962: Where do you get that he came back and attacked Zimmerman? That was only one of the stories. Other stories had different ideas - Zimmerman attacking Trayvon with Trayvon not going after him. You are biased and obviously support Zimmerman while ignoring any facts. 1) We don't know that Trayvon came back after him so stop using it as a fact, he may have or it may have all been Zimmerman's doing. 2) We KNOW that Zimmerman was told not to follow Trayvon and he did. Reserve judgment and let the courts decide. Stop blowing smoke like you know it's fact when only the people involved in the case know if its fact or not. I have heard a million different versions of what happened, but I do not draw a conclusion because I don't know the FACTS!
Justice099
That's HILARIOUS! Yet, the RACIST GZ has a juvenile record, an assault on a LEO, a restraining order for violent behavior to an "ex ho" (his words) was let go from an undercover body guard job (for throwing a girl against a wall) and a record of calling the police to report "suspicious blacks", and WE are the ones REACHING??
George Zimmerman was fired from his job as an under-the-table security guard for “being too aggressive,” a former co-worker told the Daily News.
Zimmerman, at the center of a firestorm for shooting an unarmed black teenager a month ago, worked for two different agencies providing security to illegal house parties between 2001 and 2005, the former co-worker said.
“Usually he was just a cool guy. He liked to drink and hang with the women like the rest of us,” he said. “But it was like Jekyll and Hyde. When the dude snapped, he snapped.”
The source said Zimmerman, who made between $50 and $100 a night, was let go in 2005.
“He had a temper and he became a liability,” the man said. “One time this woman was acting a little out of control. She was drunk. George lost his cool and totally overreacted,” he said. “It was weird, because he was such a cool guy, but he got all nuts. He picked her up and threw her. It was pure rage. She twisted her ankle. Everyone was flipping out.”
The year 2005 was a bad one for Zimmerman: he was arrested for fighting with a cop trying to arrest his friend for underage drinking, and he and his ex-fiancée took out protective orders against each other.
The former co-worker, who is no longer in touch with Zimmerman, said he was shocked to hear what happened Feb. 26 in a gated community in Sanford, Fla.
“He definitely loved being in charge. He loved the power. Still, I could never see him killing someone. Never,” he said.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-03-29/news/31256491_1_robert-zimmerman-gated-community-security-guard
These things show GZ's TRUE CHARACTER!
It is relevant to the case. Zimmerman said he saw someone acting suspicious, maybe on drugs. As it turns out, it is within Martins character to take drugs, graffiti, and maybe even steal stuff. So, if he was doing any of these things that night, looking suspicious would be an understatement.
everyone-5471391,
And it has been reported the GZ has a DRINKING PROBLEM, yet, HE wasn't tested for drugs or alcohol, why NOT?
None of those allegations were relevant to the night in question!
GZ should have left his fat ass in his vehicle, and he wouldn't be hiding out like the PUSS he is!
Then it must be true!
Jo-An, and yet the judge didn't seem all that impressed by it during the bond hearing. And of course, everything you pointed out happened 7 to 11 years ago. Zimmerman has since gotten married and had a stable job. The incidents with Trayvon happened only a few months ago.
Perhaps those things you mention would be relevant if they had happened a few months ago. I was never a thug but I am a VERY different person than I was in my early 20s.
You are grasping at straws, just like I said in my post.
I don't know that GZ was not tested for drugs or alcohol. My guess is they would have if the police suspected he was under the influence.
Martins past is relevant if the jury questions if Martin may have been out doing something other then walking home from the store. Zimmerman has been accused (by Martin lawyers) of being racist and profiling.
People like you, Jo-An, got Martin killed that night. The people who say he should have stayed in his truck. The people who don't get involved. The people who stayed in their houses when they heard cries for help.
everyone-5471391,
That's a good one! You've run out of defense for your buddy GZ, so now it's MY fault?
Here's a little "FACT" for you....there was NO crime being committed that night....
it was all in GZ's teeny, tiny mind.....
There was no crime being committed that night...until Zimmerman was assaulted.
everyone-5471391,
NO evidence that Zimie was assaulted! NONE, ZERO, NADA!
Repeating your lie, changes nothing! Give it up!
I'll go with that...
There was no crime being committed that night...until someone was assaulted. We really can't say with certainty who initiated the physical contact so: Unless proof beyond a reasonable doubt is presented, Zimmerman is "innocent" of assault.
Is that better?
Jo-An-4354969
It is EVIDENT that George was on the receiving end of BATTERY, no matter how minor.
This guy was getting a knife pulled on him by every Mexican he ran into? Damn I grew up in East Los Angeles and I have never had a knife pulled on me in my life. Maybe old George Zimmerman used to dress like a thug himself. Most of the people that I know who have gotten knifes pulled on them were up to no good yet it's happening to him all the time? The gift that keeps on giving.
Interesting... so those people that get mugged and raped were just asking for it, huh?
I don't know what that has to with his racially profiling of Mexicans. I'm telling you I grew up where there are more Mexicans than anywhere else in the U.S. I've never had a knife pulled on me you would think since I lived there went to school there grew up there it would have happened at least once yet it happens to this guy everytime? God damn! What's up with the Mexicans in Virginia? Maybe they have a permits to carry knifes out there because according to this guy every Mexican did that! Please tell me how he didn't racially profile Trayvon because he can surely racially profile Mexicans.
Flashing money around, dressing like you have no clothes. Maybe, you decide. After all it is a free country right? Just don't let the thugs now that.
Gotyou, you said: " Most of the people that I know who have gotten knifes pulled on them were up to no good"
btw, it is "knives."
And I am willing to bet you probably just happen to know a lot of people that are always up to no good. Hence why your perception is skewed. Everybody I know that had knives pulled on them were about to get robbed, assaulted, or raped.
Maybe you should find a different crowd to hang out with. Just a suggestion.
Actually, I take that back. You strike me as a white suburban punk kid that listens to rap and fantasizes about having some cool street rep.
Thanks for the spelling tip. I'll remember that knives not knifes. If you read my earlier post I clearly state I grew up in East Los Angeles breaking news no white kids in East Los Angeles. If you call hanging out with two police detectives who graduateed from the University of Southern California a bad crowd let me hear your suggestions because I'm lost obviously!
That's fantasy, because mexicans are not like that around here. That's what made me think he bi polar or something wrong. I live near where his family lives in VA. I know that area well, mexicans work around there cutting grass and things like that. You never see any dressed like thugs and things like that. How the area is and how I read all the things. It's like he living in south central cali in his head while living in virginia.
*GASP* Oh my God! Seven years ago when Zimmerman was in his TWEENS (if Martin was a 'CHILD' at 17 years old I think that made Zimmerman a 'TWEEN' at 21 [you always see these retards trying to evoke an emotional response by referring to TM as a 'CHILD']) he made some hyperbolic remarks about Mexicans! That proves that he's a sociopathic racist murderer who stalked and killed Trayvon Martin in cold blood exclusively because he was black and probably clubbed baby seals on weekends! Crucify him! s\
Were the baby seals black? He probabbly racially profiled them as well. Big difference between the ages of 17 and 21.
He probably did. What kind of sick twisted bastard racially profiles a young black man in a neighborhood that fell victim to a series of break-ins/burglaries carried out by young black men? Only a total racist would do something like that. s\
Exactly. At 17 it's hardly possible to be anything but a helpless innocent CHILD. At 21 one is expected to be a model citizen; a true pillar of one's community. What kind of sick, twisted 21 year old makes a gaffe on a social networking site? This Zimmerman must be stopped! s\
Never said he was a racist but he did racially profile Trayvon. That's unquestionable! People can try to downplay his comments on facebook and this piece here all they want but his daddies defense was that his son views everybody the same regardless of color. That's out the door now.
.
Why would he have white guilt?
I know! It's absolutely shameful that he was suspicious of someone who fit the description of people who had been committing crimes in that area! He should be locked up!
It's a good thing that his daddy is irrelevant and his defense is Mark O'Mara. I had the big box of Crayola's back in grade school (of course I did, I'm white), but still, I don't remember the color "Mexican".
I understand at 17 people are more inclined to get into trouble here and there but at 21 while I don't expect you to be a model citizen I don't expect you to be stupid enough to go on a social networking site and make disparaging remarks about a whole group of people. That wasn't a gaffe! If you want to defend Z boy here because of his stupidity at 21 no less that's fine with me. Seems pretty stupid at 28 as well!
True. I just think it's funny how so many are trying to connect a 7 year old myspace post that's derogatory toward Mexicans to his shooting a black person in self defense.
Easily he racially profiles people. That's the connection. Who said Trayvon Martin was the descripton of people who were committing the burglaries? They were tall skinny black kids that were committing burglaries? never heard that. Your self defense claim is a joke he started a confrontation and when he said "f*****g coons/punks they always get away" that tells me this kid was getting confronted. If not please tell me what he meant by that they always get away comment. 
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE83O18H20120425
how in hell do you say that it is okay to associate trayvon martin with the people who did breakins because he happened to share the same pigment with them? the caucasians who state this would be outraged if they were stopped because people who shared the same pigment as them committed crimes (caucasian do commit crimes).
zimmerman did not "profile" trayvon martin, he stereotyped him. profiling is a science which uses behavioural characteristics to find criminal suspects
if you use appearance to determine criminality you are not profiling, you are stereotyping. police use special departments staffed with psychologists to do this. this is why "profiling" should be left to the specialists.
the reason that it can be assumed that zimmerman has not changed is that he was preoccupied with an obsession with supposed "black"criminality. he even called in a report on some 7and 9 year olds he said were acting suspiciously
this is more than enough evidence to show that there was not much evolution in his philosophy about non caucasian people.
Thank you. I was looking for the right words to use to differentiate profiling vs PROFILING vs the racial profiling.
taken out of context it does sound bad... The report I saw on that was child playing in the street unattended.. please describe the child "Black" Various sites have reported on Georges calls. He rarely volunteered Race/ethnicity. He would wait for the dispatcher to ASK and provide a list of choices.
At 21 you're a man period. You can drink and do whatever you want long as its legal.
I dont recall Zim ever stating on the "911" call that TM was comitting a crime. He said he looked suspicious and looked like he was on drugs or something. That is not stereotyping that is observing and reporting. Profiling? Maybe. So what? He fit the profile of numerous burglars who had victimized his neighborhood.
So....it's okay to pull a gun out and murder someone for looking suspicious?
There is no evidence that happened as indicated in my earlier post.
The real irony?
If the guy who shot Martin was Black, no one would care one bit.
But, with NBC and others deliberately lying about the event, no wonder so many folk are stirred up.
Irony is profitable. Just look at the box office sales for Iron Man and Iron Man II.
Zimmerman is Black (and White and Hispanic) in his ancestry. People just don't like to mention that.
Care to ask why posts here and elsewhere largely refer to Trayvon Martin as "Trayvon" and George Zimmerman as "Zimmerman"?
Are we thinking.....should we think one is more familiar, more "human and like us"?
Is it possible Mr. Zimmerman.......as well as Mr. Martin have both slurred "other" cultures in the past......likely even?
I'm starting to thing our forefathers got it wrong when insisting we should be judged by a juries of our peers......or perhaps folks posting here aren't our peers........I'm keeping my fingers crossed, how about you?
Another thing...............Hispanics ARE Caucasians you boobs!.
"Hispanics ARE Caucasians you boobs!."
Wrong dude. Hispanic is not a race, but an ethnicity, as where caucasian is a race. You sir is not smarter than a redneck 5th grader.
So if hispanic is their ethnicity "thepunisher" (lol) what is their race Einstein? Black?
Cameron Diaz=white hispanic
David Ortiz=black hispanic
Jo-An-4354969
According to your friends on here if there is any Black, they are BLACK... see the current POTUS.
Big deal. George has an opinion of others that doesn't sit well with some people. Like no one else has similar opinions of others...right.
The media is trying everything they can to prove him guilty of murder independent of the facts.
Take two seconds to explore what Martin was about, MSNBC.
Oh now that would be RAYCYST!
RACIST....
appears You agree
People come down off your high horses, This racist @!$%# is way out of line. You can Not convince me or anyone else you grew up with out saying words or jokes Or your friends and loved ones that are now all called racist remarks. and i know for a fact that people still say these things and are not racist at all,there words there jokes, and Non Caucasians are the worst offenders. All men are created equal but different cultures and traditions and even foods make these differences stand out. So yes there are pointed out time and again by other and same races. There is a BIG difference when there used in a derogatory manner to someones face. Now with that said, i still don't think this G.Z and T.M case was racist at all,but that's the first thing ppl reach for today. You or I do not still have all the facts of that night,so to jump to race difference is just WRONG. ALL races are harassed by police and all races kill and rob within as well of outside there race. G.Z to post for his friends to read was Not even a racist comment,he had knives pulled on him by Mexicans,well then maybe he did,by stating it that way so what? so do others. Zimmerman was wrong on many levels that night that have been pointed out and for that alone he will be punished, and Martin may have been the attacker,but i didn't see evidence of it on police intake video. So wait and see what the whole story is in court. We all tend to like our own Race better as well as own,Country,State ,Town School,Teams,and Gender. Its just the way it is, T.M was not killed because he was black or blue....SO STOP THE RACE BULL@!$%#!!!
"i know for a fact that people still say these things and are not racist at all"
Are you for sure? hmmmmm.............. Why even say it if you're truly not racist?
"ALL races are harassed by police"
But not all races are profiled the same by the police.
"SO STOP THE RACE BULL@!$%#!!!"
I do agree.
thepunisher-2054749,
I think I said it before, but...
Thank you,
for pointing out the obvious!
To me he's just an American who got to the point where he wasn't gonna take it no more and try and do something about crime and terror plaguing his neighborhood. He took it to far I agree but I don't think he meant to kill anyone. The my space rant is just a vent for his frustrations on what's going on in this country with all the violence and crime committed by minorities especially illegals.
Not good for Zimmerman to have gotten to, as you say, "THE POINT WHERE HE WASN'T GONNA TAKE IT NO MORE." Not a good mindset for a citizen out protecting his neighborhood. It caused him to be inept and muddle things up (to put it gently).
"what's going on in this country with all the violence and crime committed by minorities especially illegals."
Wow, to point that out must have been huge for you? But it's OK for the majority to commit any crime though right? It's only bad when the minorities do it. Have you heard of a video camera, it's cheaper than a gun, and gets way better results if you're out for vigilante justice.
@ Jimy Maynard I happen to work with a lot of white people and they have no problems with Illegals as a matter of fact they tell me they they don't worry being around illegals more than anyone else because they tend keep a low profile and they don't want to get deported and due to popular belief they are getting deported now more than ever. Are you George Zimmermans dad?
GotYouAllFooled
So you are ok with having criminals around, that is what ILLEGAL means. save it for another thread.
jimmy the jails in montana, north dakota, south dakota, wyoming, utah, and other caucasian majority state are full of caucasians. the percentage of caucasian juveniles in juvenile facilities far surpases the number of african americans. should we now stereotype all caucasian because of these facts?
Steve: You keep ranting over and over and over again about something that is NOT fact.The ONLY thing we know with 100% certainty is that Zim killed an aunarmed teen,the rest is ONLY speculation.But you keep ranting,iy is very entertaining-Lol !
We also know that Zim was on the wrong end of an ass kicking.
"We also know that Zim was on the wrong end of an ass kicking."
No we don't, that's what he said. Do you believe him? Still just speculation buddy.
thepunisher-2054749
umm not speculation that there was a fight... not speculation that George received injuries, not speculation that Trayvon did not appear to have injuries other than the autopsy incisions and bullet wound(per the funeral director) THAT would indicate that George was on the losing end of a physical altercation.
In point of fact, "Trust" we don't know there was a fight at all. George says there was a fight, but only he had any injuries. If Martin had been in a fight, there would have been indicators of such, and of to date, I haven't heard of any. That's not to say there wasn't any fight, just that it is one of the things yet to be determined. The only facts there are, Zimmerman was not in his vehicle, and he SHOT AND KILLED some one. Are you going to deny either of these?
So, Zimmerman is GUILTY of shooting and killing Martin. Now, he has to prove to a court of law that it was a justified shooting.
Roland Baron
OK so the TWO witnesses were mistaken when they made statements that there were TWO individuals involved in a physical altercation in their back yards? What injuries would you expect if Trayvon were on top and kicking Georges ass?
Actually Zim is innocent unless the prosecution can prove that it wasn't a justified shooting, which is a pretty tall order considering what we know. Zim doesn't have to prove a thing. Do you really not believe there was a fight? Eyewitness account + defendants testimony + injuries consistent with both eyewitness account and defendant's testimony = speculation?
The mainstream media are getting pretty desperate when they have to reach back to some offhand remarks made years ago to try to smear this guy and get him convicted in the world of public opinion. If I were on a jury and some prosecutor brought this stuff up to prove that GZ shot TM because he was prejudiced against Mexicans, I'd think the whole case was weak and probably politically motivated BS.
You are joking, right?
The right wing media has been having a feeding frenzy disparaging Trayvon's (the VICTIM) reputation for TWO MONTHS....
poor wittle georgie, hope his feelings aren't hurt, by bringing his character up!
Also, did you miss the part where Zimmerman's lawyer released the posts?
"Sunshine-1043044
only thing he hates are thugs and punks"
And don't forget: unarmed children walking home with soda and candy.
Don't forget about punk-ass assailants.
So what!
My current facebook page includes slurs about everybody!
To all of you who breathe and live PC, get a fukking life!
Yo Randy, you should take your own fukking advice, get a life bud...
Randy Thomas-4213467,
Sure hope you don't get gunned down for no reason, and become a victim....cause we will have PLENTY of info to prove you are a racist, THUG!
Yo Grandma, you are very foul mouthed for a Grandma... Are you a biker broad?
"My current facebook page includes slurs about everybody!"
Too ashame or scared to actually say those slurs to real people I'm assuming. Isn't facebook and myspace wonderful, anyone can be the real them, or who ever they want to be.
Occupy the gated communities.
Yeah, maybe you can get your five Ohio buddy's who tried to blow up a bridge to help you with that.
Occupy = Terrorism
Those are slurs? Really?
Right and because he said something unflattering about mexicans that means he couldn't have acted in self defense against this black guy.
It's perfectly logical.
If the prosecutor specifically said he was dismissing the "gay" juror because he is gay, then there is a problem, however, if he dismissed him due to the potential "gay" jurors answers to the questionnaire, he did the right thing for his case. The judge seems to be biased in this matter towards gays, she should recuse (remove) herself and the prosecutor should file a 170.6 to have the case moved to a different judge. Just sayin...
Yo Grandma! You are on the George Zimmerman story... Not the Gay Juror story... you are confused...
my page contains slurs against the whore banksters ruining this country. the FED needs to go. vote Ron Paul 2012 or be ready for the american empire to crash.
You better hope you're never assaulted by a banker and have to draw your gun or this post will come back to bite you.
"be ready for the american empire to crash."
I hear the chinese empire is great this time of year. You can leave any time you like. Like Ron Paul is going to make a dent of a difference, you are delusional.
Nathan Taylor was shot to death last week in Lancaster, CA. He served 3 tours in Afghanistan. Where's the outrage over HIS murder? A good man gets gunned down in a poor neighborhood and all the Liberals and Conservatives can say about it is "yawn". What makes Trayvon so much more important than Nathan Taylor?
Did they catch the perps? If not, does he have a organization that will advocate for him? I guess, you can always ask al and jesse, but they mostly work within the black community.
Nathan is black but I guess Al and Jesse are too busy for this one.
Peter Kaye
It was OVER a month before "Al & Jesse" got involved in th Martin case!
Feel free to start an online petition for Nathan Taylor, and we will get involved.
Did the killers get arrested then let go for self defense with a story that only the murderer can verify? If that's the case I'm sure they will look into it.
What about the....YAWN!
WHO CARES? Evidently not YOU because if you did, you'd know all the facts in the case instead of some made up CRAP!
I don't see why George Zimmerman is slamming Mexicans, when he clearly looks like a Mexican himself.
Then you sir need glasses. Does everyone of tanish color skin look like mexicans to you?