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Subscribe to RSSFlorida Gov. Rick Scott has shot down a request by Tampa's mayor to allow local authorities to ban guns from the city's downtown during the Republican National Convention in August.
Citing Second Amendment protections in the U.S. Constitution, Scott told Tampa Mayor Bob Buckhorn that conventions and guns have co-existed since the nation's birth and would continue to do so during the four-day event beginning Aug. 27.
"It is unclear how disarming law abiding citizens would better protect them from the dangers and threats posed by those who would flout the law," the Republican governor said in a letter on Tuesday.
Local officials need Scott's permission to enact the temporary restrictions after state lawmakers last year passed a measure that prohibits local governments from adopting gun ordinances that are stricter than state law.
Florida has some of the most lenient gun laws in the United States and by some counts leads the nation in gun ownership, with about 6.5 percent of all adults licensed to carry a concealed weapon, state records show.
New applications for concealed gun permits have quadrupled since 1998.
In a letter to Scott, Buckhorn said the Tampa City Council had banned a host of items from the area surrounding the convention facility, a list that includes water guns, poles and pieces of wood.
"One noticeable item missing from the city's temporary ordinance is firearms," Buckhorn wrote. "In the potentially contentious environment surrounding the RNC, a firearm unnecessarily increases the threat of imminent harm and injury to the residents and visitors to the city."
Scott said he was confident law enforcement officials, who are expected to number nearly 4,000, would be able to protect the public without having to enforce a blanket gun ban.
That city officials have banned other items is irrelevant, he said.
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"The choice to allow the government to ban sticks, poles but not firearms, is one that the people made in enacting their state and federal constitutions," Scott wrote.
Weapons will not be allowed in the convention center itself or in the immediate area surrounding the site. Security in that venue is being handled by the U.S. Secret Service.
The City Council wants to extend the restrictions to all of downtown, including areas that have been designated zones for protesters expected at the event.
"As governor, you have the duty to meet dangers presented by events such as the RNC where there is a threat of substantial injury and harm to Florida residents and visitors to the state," Buckhorn wrote.
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This is a mistake. People have millions of reasons to shoot any Republican on sight. Someone will undoubtably be hurt. Huge mistake Gov. Scott. Please don't give in the NRA money. America has had enough bloodshed with Gabby Gifford and now more insanity in Arizona. From a pacifist Liberal I'm begging you. We don't want any crazies shooting anyone. Especially Republicans. There are so few left. Thank you.
there undoubtedly going to get hurt driving there ban cars
Planes have crashed on the way to Florida before so let's ban planes.
You are an idiot. You want to deny me my right; as a licensed to carry firearm owner, to have my gun with me If I went to Tampa during the convention dates BECAUSE there might be a shooting. Hell a CRAZT could commander an airplane,bus, truck or a car. Lets ban those too. While we are at it, hoew about knifes, forks, and sticks. When we give up our rights for security we lose both
A car accident is not the same AS Gun Violence. YOu can get CAncer too, What is your point?
Too bad we can't ban idiots like chris
Guns are needed at the Convention in case the Occupy idiots show up to cause trouble and also if a Liberal shows up and breaks the Law.
An attempt at humor, I am assuming?
True Americans !!
So you're a "pacifist liberal"? I don't beleive such a person of liberal stature exists. "People have millions of reasons to shoot any Republican on sight. Someone will undoubtably be hurt". Kind of hypercritical and at the very least contradictory in definition coming form a "pacifist liberal" however, typical language from a liberal. If liberals don't get they're "I want mine for nothing" Government hand-out they become militant. The Occupy movement, Elf, ASP, Black Panthers, Etc., are all liberal groups. While rape centers, first aid units and drug detox tents were being set up and supplied by working republicans on land paid for by tax paying republicans for rape, stabbing and gun shot victims for these militant liberals the Tea Party was being demonized for promoting smaller Government and self responsibility. Get the facts my friend and stop watching ABC, NBC, MSNBC and let Bill Maher and other left-wing hacks continue to grossly & viciously attack Republican women, their families and disabled children at the same time as making up a campaign that says the Republicans have a war on women! Keep drinking that Obama cool aid!!
Kudos to all the law abiding pro carry legal citizens,legal gun toting law abiding citizens don't go around shooting people,they could potentially save your a$$ from getting mugged or shot though,try thanking them instead of running them in the dirt,You should be smart enough to know guns don't kill people,people kill people, if you didn't know this,you really are a dumba$$ !!!!Don't be stupid and vote for Obama,enough idiots did last time and look at how this country is now...UGH !!!!
only dems would want to shoot republicans, in fact the last major shooting at a political ralley was by a self proclaimed left wing extremist registered democrat. for you libs with selective memory, that was loughner in Tucson.
disarming the law abiding citizen ensures the criminal will have free reign to do what it wants.
police officer to law abiding citizen; "do you have any weapons?" citizen replies, "yes" and complies with the officer by relinquishing his weapon.
police officer to criminal; "do you have any weapons?" criminal replies, "no" and goes about his intent to threaten, rob or kill whoever they want.
the Governor of Florida should be commended for his support of the US constitution, NOT condemned for it by liberal progressives that walk through life unable to chew gum at the same time.
Unlike you libs, we know we have nothing to fear from armed law abiding citizens, although we have alot to fear from you clowns that want to give up our rights. If you want to give up your rights and freedoms, go right ahead, leave mine alone. I fought for them once, will do so again.
Wow, wouldn't a ban during the Republican Convention have been the grandest of grand ironies? Darn!
Of course if you outlaw guns there,only the OUTLAWS will have guns!
What part of this dont you people understand?
If you dont want to take a gun then dont, but dont try to trample everyone elses right to do so!
So you need guns to protect yourself from the outlaws that will be going to the GOP convention?
Well... it is the GOP, so you have a point.
So why can't you carry guns into the convention center? Seems like they're restricting citizens' rights. I guess if you're a criminal looking to steal a gun you'll have a field day breaking into cars at the GOP convention.
IndieParty
I guess You could call what the radical, socialist,criminal organization,( formerly known as the Democratic Party), "outlaws" instead, for the sake of simplicity. I mean, after all, most normal people do not support members of an organization they belong to, forming themselves into mobs in order to harass and assault other people or destroy their things, all with the tacit approval,coordination, and financial support of their parties leadership including those in the Departments of "Justice" and Homeland Security,so, yes, I am glad to see a Governor defend the citizens Constitutional rights to freedom of assembly,and self defense, against those who would come to do them, or their loved ones, harm.
Way to go Governor Scott!
I agree with SalMonella, It is refreshing to see a governor with common sense. He is only following the constitution. To the rest of you, what part of shall not be infringed don't you understand? We have a first amendment and all the other amendments because we have the second amendment. It is my GOD given right to protect myself and my family and I will use force if neccesary. I live in the country 30 miles from the nearest cop, I depend on me for my safety.
God didn't give you the right to carry a gun, nor the right to protect yourself or family. Laws did. Get it straight.
Really? God gave you that right?
Which of the 7 days did God create guns? I must have missed that part of Sunday School.
Don Lester, you marxist! We have the God Given right to LIFE, Liberty, and the ownership of property (aka pursuit of happiness). Animals have teeth, claws, wings, and speed to help protect their life. If we get the right to defend our life from GOVERNMENT, Government can also take those rights away!!
Continuing on..In order to secure those rights, governments are instituted among men....So when you tinhorn commies come to do us like Hitler did the Jews, you'll have to really WORK at it for success.
To Don Lester: This is for you!
Atheism – The belief that there was nothing and then nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything.
Whatever form of "God" one wants to believe in, people (and all forms of life for that matter) have a natural given right and obligation to protect themselves and their family. (Think teeth, horns, spines, claws, etc.) I'm not a "God" person per say, but it is written in such applicable texts that man has this right and obligation. I believe the term "sword" is used, but that obviously was the means of self defense at the time. No written law GIVES me the right to defend myself, I was born with that "right". Does there need to be a "law" that says an animal can protect itself from a predator? Just put it in perspective, it's a pretty easy point.
I'll take my chances on matter over a few thousand year old hearsay any day. Hearsay used to cause fear and band "believers" together.
I thought we were socialists? But now we are "commies"?
Let me guess... dropped out of school around 2nd, 3rd grade? The rest of your education came from a combination of Biblical passages and NASCAR.
This move is just retarded by the right. Seriously, I hope they all turn the guns on each other at that freak show of a "convention."
The latest proof of total lack of public interest--the GOP won't take a little slice off that massive ass defense/offense budget, stop foreign aid. I don't see a "left" anymore---just a right and a uber right. Why in the hell, after 10 years at war, can't we break the cycle and end the wars. The trouble is--we've become war dependent--military, military support, defense contractor sales. We're going down the same way that the Roman Empire did. 1) outsource labor to foreign countries 2) trade imbalances 3) a massive military that they did not need or could afford 4) plutocracy--business and government became nearly inseparable, and both corrupt.
You sure wouldn't dare do that at a Democrat convention. I would bet that if the political party voting record of all people convicted of gun crimeswere tallied it would be majority Democrat. Perhaps that is why they are so against the second amendment, they don't want to keep losing voters. When the welfare and food stamps money runs out, the rest of us may very well need our guns.
IndieParty - your post made me laugh out loud - very clever! However, i think most were/are home schooled (but love the NASCAR reference)!
I don't live in the world that you describe. The people I know work harder, longer hours, and make less money that they have in 2 decades. You people are buying that NRA bullsh*t, hook, line, and sinker. Do you really think you're protecting yourself? Gun owners kill people. Guns are bad---okay. (Mr Mackey, South Park.)
I have an acquaintance that had a TBI x 2--a genuine Purple Heart Marine in Iraq. He's the guy I fear will kill in masses. He constantly speaks of conflict resolution via firearms---not defense. All you folks care about is an insane level of gun ownership with a bare minimum of control over even assault rifles and semi auto weapons.
So why can't you carry guns into the convention center? Seems like they're restricting citizens' rights. I guess if you're a criminal looking to steal a gun you'll have a field day breaking into cars at the GOP convention.
It is common knowledge that a person with a gun is less likely to try to use intelligence to deal with a situation, to defuse tension. They fall back on their weapon, on violence, instead of using some other means. I've heard private investigators say they never carry a gun, because they know the presence of a gun heightens tension and combativeness instead of defusing it.
The older I get the more I'm starting to believe that those who seek out guns do so because there is no intelligence there to use as a substitute. It is the only way they can feel strong.
Well, just as long as the Republicans intend to use their guns at their convention, I don't see any problem with this.
Well, here's to hoping for the logical and kharmic result of this decision.
Back at my friends that felt compelled to call me "Commie and Atheist and what have you." Where in my short little post did I state either which way I vote or what my religious preference is?
No matter how I believe, in either religion or politics, it doesn't change the fact that the law is, and this is especially true in FL, gives us the right to protect ourselves, try standing your ground in IL and see where the law falls on what your rights are, you will find that standing your ground as it were, will land you in a lot of trouble. Try it in PA, and again, you will find that your god-given rights are trumped quite handily by our man-made laws.
That isn't commie or atheist, that is the law of man talking, and that is the one that all of us, in this country anyways, have to live by.
Have any of these anti-gun idiots seen the stats in Australia, After they banned guns? The violate crime rate doubled at best. Google it if your not too lazy. Guns are not "bad", as I have read stated here, PEOPLE are bad not all people,but some people. "Those who will give up liberty for security deserve neither" - Ben Franklin
Two possibilities why. The first being as stated the Secret Service is in charge of security there and they don't give a crap about rights when it comes to security. The second is maybe the the convention center has a no weapons policy. Many states that have different carry laws allow private businesses and certain public facilities to have policies like that. The convention center in St. Louis where the NRA held it's annual meeting did not allow concealed or open carry weapons and the NRA respected that.
And as far as your second comment goes the uniformed and undercover presence around the national conventions is so tight that it would not matter. A greater concern would be getting caught up in a protester - police confrontation.
criminals don't care about gun laws WAKE UP
Calling people ignoring gun laws criminals pretty much sums up Republicans.
polyscidal dude, you are delusional. An armed society is a polite society. Gabby Gifford was shot by a left wing nut job. As usual libs re-write history to suit their agenda..........
That's right... remember the old west? Everyone had guns and everyone was extremely polite. Shoot-outs never happened. Remember the famous "Witty Banter at the OK Coral"? Words were flying everywhere.
And look at Mexico... nothing but polite cartel members getting into intellectual debates with each other. Why? Because they know the other guy has a gun, so they are very "polite".
I don't know about you, but I also find the interaction between rival gang members to be surprisingly civil. Since gang members are armed, they are always extremely courteous when finding themselves in the presence of other gangs. You often see Crips holding the door open for Bloods, which naturally stems from their polite nature.
I think you mean right-wing nut job. Get your facts straight.
Rollingthunder.... sorry... the Giffords shooter was a REGISTERED DEMOCRAT.... that's usually construed as left leaning.
XD, not in the South and the last I looked Arizona is in the southern half of the U.S.A. Southern Democrats are right wings, but we as Democrats try and work with all people of this Great Country. Unlike another Party, which we will leave nameless.
No use arguing with a right winger. Most of one's I've talked to lately are so filled with a combination of self righteous indignation or a persecution complex, they just can't see past their TV's tuned to FOX.
Wouldn't it be ironic is shoot out occurred at the convention. But then again, they'd figure out some way to blame it on a "left wing nut job." It least that's the it'll be reported on Hannity, so it must be true.
He was a wacko and in love with that other wacko fake "scary sary payme" and her husband is a pimp.
Gabby was shot by a Right wing NUT JOB you freak
some AZ skinhead nut job
indie i am sure someone will point this out to you, but in Mexico, its illegal to own a gun, so the criminals are free to shoot when ever they wish cause they know no one will be able to shoot back.
and please learn about the wild west from something other than movies. or if you only learn from watching tv, try little house on the prairie, not one shoot out in that show.
Oh... so when two cartels are shooting back and forth, it's because they think the other guy will not be able to shoot back (even though he is)?
Really? Little house on the prairie? Try actual history.
The lead investigator said the shooter is "a conservative".
He shot a Democrat who had just defeated a Tea Party candidate in a very contentious race.
That Democrat had previously had her office vandalized by Tea Party members.
That Democrat had her name and district identified with gunsight cross-hairs on a map, and was called a "problem" that needed a "solution" on Sarah Palin's political action committee website (before Palin pulled it down after the shooting.)
Common sense and evidence tells open-minded people the shooter's leanings; but some of you will of course spin it any way you can for your own purposes.
R-Sticker----------Just because the guy had a shaved head makes him a skinhead? He was not affiliated with any skinheads. The only affiliation he had was with mental health counselors who in turn allowed him to roam the streets of Tucson. Dont label that guy with skins just cause he was clean shaven.
Yes indie try actual history, The Gun violence that was in the "old west" was not a normal everyday thing as movies make it to be. Those bad bad "outlaws " that are notorious are the EXCEPTION not the rule thats why they were so famous! Most of the criminals were usually hung, prisoned or killed when they committed crimes that why those that managed to commit multiple robberies were so famous. many many people and towns in the west never even saw a gunfight in their life. Without the guns to protect themselves they would have been killed by the Indians, and those that would have taken what they had from them.WITHOUT GUNS YOU WOULD NOT BE FREE TODAY TO SPOUT YOUR MISGUIDED BELIEFS.
so sandtrich, what actual move are you talking about?? there was no "move" by the right! what there was and is, is rights, period!!! our rights! god given rights to have whatever weapon you want to protect yourself from harm!! who are you to think that you and your "kind" have or will ever have any say in what honest americans can posses you maggot anti gun liberal fags better get it through your little pee brains you will never ever be able to take our gun rights away so why do you even spout off your with your small minded no common sense bs!!! you suck and you will never have any control over the gun freedoms we will enjoy for the rest of time!!! and if it ever got to that point would you really want to piss off millions of gun totin right wingers? were would you go then maggots!!!
Wow, 'rightwing extreme'! Something about the way YOU express yourself
...coupled with thought of YOU owning guns
... makes ME pee my pants a little bit!!!!!
:-O
Scott said he was confident law enforcement officials, who are expected to number nearly 4,000, would be able to protect the public without having to enforce a blanket gun ban.
Why do you need them. Everyone will be armed with automatics and whatever else they can carry. It will make the gun show look like a tea party .
The poor law enforcement officials have to be exposed to thousands of wanna bees. ! Amazing how powerful the NRA is. They are more powerful than God, the Congress and the !% . The have brainwashed our nation to believing that Freedom is only with a gun . God forbid it should be with an education or civility .
Let's just give a gun to every delegate to the convention. America is reverting back to some infantile state that is truly scary.
I live near Brown Street in Dayton Ohio. If you aren't familar let's just say a regular Friday night could sees twenty plus robberys at gun point. Guess how many we get now with the concealed carry NEW LAW? (also can carry inside a bar and to date no bar shootings since law went into affect)
ONE in a month. The guy barges in with a gun and gets four pointed back at him.
But MSN won't REPORT that story will they?
The media NEVER reports lives saved with a gun. You'll only see the individual accounts in the NRA magazine...No, I'm not a member. I don't need no stinkin' lobby to OK blowing yo' azz away, if yo' is naughty to me, dude. Ya see, I'm still clinging to my guns and religion! So, shut up, do right, and go to Sunday School.
3rdpartyadvocate
They probably didn't report it because the story is more than just a little light on facts. Post some links to confirm you claim for credibility.
I did look at the recent armed robberies in the area of Dayton, OH and discovered that not one reported armed robbery attempt was prevented by an armed citizen. More links please.
If the leftwingnuts wants us to stay out of a woman's body- then they should stay out of the gun control arguement as well. Less babies are killed with guns every year than abortion.................
Oh, no you didn't.
Oh yes he did and just to add to the visual if we took away states in population to equal all the abortions preformed since Roe v Wade we would lose
California, Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Nevada, Texas and New Mexico. FACT
Oh, no you didn't either.
Far as I could tell, no big loss there.
OOOOOOOOO.
Dave told the TRUTH, Libs gonna GET YOU....
OOOOOOOO
3rdparty...that ought to suit you just fine since your ilk thinks they are a drain on society anyway, demanding to be fed when their parents lose their jobs, needing pre-natal health care or health care in general, taking low paying jobs...why, I bet we could have staffed all the McDonalds in California, Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Nevada, Texas and New Mexico too......
....Back to the topic.....GUN "toters" at the convention.....maybe they will all kill each other at the national convention when they discover that Rupaul has subverted all their delegates and he picks his "Warped" son Rand for his running mate ! I can see it now....Shoot out at the GOP coral !
Coral? The convention is being held on a reef?
Jesus - and you're using the term 'nuts' to described people other than yourself? Anyhow, to sum it up for you real simple-like: a woman's body can't come up to you in the street and pop a couple into your helmet. Make sense? Great.
No but a women's body can give you diseases that will kill you slower and more painfully.
I am glad to see that most got my sick sense of humor and parity of "Liberal Logic"
They( liberals) cannot take it when you step on their lawn (abortion & womans body) but you find the liberals LOVE to tell you what to do in your backyard...
Liberals= ASShats.
DaveM-877764
I am not aware of any "babies" being killed during an abortion. Think about that.
well they certainly not aborting a lump of meat......... funny guy huh? if a woman is injured/killed while pregnant- and loses the baby then why do you liberals charge the offending party with two murders????
Then you being the "funny guy" have the balls to say no babies are killed during an abortion.
Interesting how the liberal mind works...............if at all
Well said Ron.
I dont know how it can be explained any better than that.
Now if they had asked this southern republican Governor to ban holding hands at the convention I'm sure there would have been a different result.
Yeah the reply would have been kindergarten is over.
Woe to the crazy person who comes to shoot people up. (He would get his piece in there regardless).
Stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Florida = wild, wild west.
Somebody wasn't paying attention in Geography class.
We are talking liberals here. They aren't sure of which reality they may or may not be in.
Why do Republicans automatically assume that ALL Republicans are for guns and ALL Democrats are against guns?
WHY do you assume that Republicans are the only ones commenting PRO and Dems against?
Funny, works both ways, huh?
Libs and Dems TYPICALLY ARE anti-2nd ammendment when compared to Conservatives and Republicans
Jerry,
You are an idiot. I'm all Lib and Dem and I have a gun. Democrates aren't anti-2nd ammendment. I need my gun to protect me from the religious right wing nut cases.
Umm. I don't know about "Democrates," but the Democratic platform endorses stricter gun control. In other words: anti-Second Ammendment.
See, that is what I am getting at. Many on here assume that if a commenter is against allowing guns at this event they must be a democrat, just as many on here assume that if the comment is all for having guns at the event they must be a republican. To assume is the problem (yes, guilty of it myself at times).
I am a liberal and I believe in the right to have a gun for protection and to hunt with. I also believe that there needs to be some serious discussion about the current gun laws and the access to guns. So, anyone saying that the Democratic Platform endorsing stricter gun laws, etc. automatically means anti-second amendment. That is just listening to way too much Lush Scumbaugh and some of the people/guest speakers on Fox.
Alaska- then show me one- just one MSNBC article about the benefits of having a gun- or any other positive gun article....... I hear how MSNBC is telling me that $5.00 gas is good for me all the time...
It is because the positive gun article does not exist from MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, etc........
stereotypes exist for a reason----as they are mostly true. I have never met a democrat that is against abortion, and never a republican that is for gay rights....
An armed society is a peaceful society until someone gets shot.
I usually associate guns with violence because when you aim the thing at a person and pull the trigger, it increases the likelihood that they get shot...and die.
Let them have their guns...although I don't see why they are necessary.
Well, that's simple. Even whisper about guns and out of the woodwork they come to thump their chests and talk about how it's a god given right, blah blah blah.
Sorry Jack, not for you to deem necessary. Our forefathers protected our gun rights clearly from those too apathetic or unintelligent to understand the need for an armed society.
When the forefathers gave the right to bare arms there were no semi automatic or automatic weapons. We were constantly threaten by those pesky natives [you know the savages we stoled the land from] and the weapons were more for feeding your family than shooting your neighbor.I am a veteran SF7G Fort Sherman Panama.I have a concealed weapons permit and I live in Florida.By allowing weapons at a potentially volatile situation Scott is inviting trouble.Political views clash daily sometimes violently adding weapons to the mix just does'nt make alot of sense
This just puts a smile on my face. Yes, we have no chicken $hit here. GO REPUBLICANS !!!
So What it's their convention, But why would they need to pack a gun ? & since when did carrying a gun make you tough or more of a man ? do what you want but I don't see how glorifying guns on any level is something to be admired
I carry a gun.
Don't see how that causes me to think I'm "tough," or "more of a man?"
Maybe you could enlighten me. I don't belittle you for going about your business unarmed. Maybe you could return a common courtesy?
@kahrcarrier nothing I said belittled you or anyone else unless you take
" do what you want but I don't see how glorifying guns on any level is something to be admired"
as such a comment but it was my opinion which I am entitled too even if you disagree
many people believe that someone who does not want to own a gun as weak & less masculine person - once again just my opinion which I see evidence from many comment's ( not your's ) I think ( just my opinion once again ) you may have misinterpreted the message I was trying to convey, just because I don't understand why every & any event should require having a hand gun on your person is not a message of hate or lack of common courtesy it is a question
Aren't nuclear weapons technically "arms"? I wonder how hard it is to get a concealed nuclear weapon permit...
Nuclear weapons are crewed weapons, not individual. Then again, mothers don't let liberals out of the basement much so the confusion is understandable.
Actually, Nibor, any engineering student can build a Nuclear Bomb that fits in a suitcase with a minimal amount of effort and with a minimal amount of expense. Supposedly, you can find plans on the Internet ( I haven't tried because I don't want a visit from the FBI/NSA/etc.). The trouble is getting enough fissionable material.
Right after he builds his centrifuge that fits in a suitcase.
Guns are our right ,to own and carry
Some terrible gun-related incident at this convention might be tragic, but it would also be PURE POETRY.
I have some poetry for you.
Roses are Red...Violets are Blue
Pinky Nixon.... Has no Clue
Someone report this tool for making a death threat.
Commenting and saying a "gun related incident" does not necessarily mean death threat. Could you be any more paranoid or overly dramatic? A gun related incident would mean any incident involving a gun. There. Simplified for you.
That's pretty twisted. Wow.
Carry on.
People that are legally liscensed to carry are not the problem. It is the people that are criminals already that don't care or follow any laws. Those are the people honest law abiding liscensed to carry people are trying to protect themselves from. It is a fairy tale to believe the Police will be able to protect all in every circumstance.
You are talking to people that think the illegals are legal so the concept won't even register on the left.
Plenty of liberals have guns...they just don't think you need to walk around like Wyatt Earp all day
Oh yeah, there are never any innocent victims when a person has a permit to carry. Tell that to the kid who just killed his sister. Tell that to the six victims of the guy in the Phoenix suburbs. I bet he had a license. You are a moron. Permits or not, guns kill. Criminals or not, guns kill.
get back to the article the murderer had a permit to cary a gun DIP weed
It would be pretty difficult to explain a serious commitment to the 2nd amendment at the same time you enact a ban. I am sure the Obama team was hoping against hope they would ban guns. I can hear James Carville cackling now over the prospects of a gun ban.
James Carville is a Son of a gun.
If James tried to ban guns his wife might shoot him.
The gop-pee's have got to be the most paranoid bunch of people in the world. It is funny to watch & listen. Chicken @!$%#s scared to death to walk out of the house unless there thinking about taking a gun. Just for info. I am a gun owner. They live in fear ! ! ! You righties need to take a step back or maybe two and relax a little.
God Bless America ! ! !
God Bless All Americans ! ! !
The lefties are the ones with both brain cells in an uproar.
Bill In Tejas
I have a CCW, and I do not "live in fear".........
All hail Caesar Obomus.....
Man I started shaking when I read your post ! ! ! ROTFLMAO AT U ! ! !
Bill
Really, GOP is paranoid? Pretty sure this is a sign of NOT being paranoid.
Let's see the Democrats have the courage to trust Americans in Charlotte later this year.
Weird, how paranoid actually works...Maybe you should attempt to READ the posts, as Repubs here are supportive of decision.
Did you err and mean to say LEFTIES? Otherwise statement was pretty badly off.
What does President Barack Obama have to do with this? He hasn't done anything to upset anyone's right to own a gun. Please don't go there with the lame "well, not yet." I personally think they should hand out guns to every man, woman and child at the event. I hope they televise the whole thing, and I sure hope the police force is will be that much more compensated financially for the job that will be made that much harder and add to their stress level.
Don't know much about his voting history in Illinois, do you?
Key word: President.
for all you anti second ammendment liberal wackos ,don't tread on my right of self defense just because you don't want to exercise yours.i like defending myself and mine if need be ...LEGALLY. why don't you liberal wackos go after criminals and not law abiding citizens?
for all you anti abortion right-wing wackos ,don't tread on my right of my own body just because you don't want to exercise yours.i like defending myself and mine if need be ...LEGALLY. why don't you GOP wackos go after criminals and not law abiding citizens?
See how that works?
By the way, your grammar is terrible...typical of tea-baggers.
RRR, maybe you can't COMPREHEND the variance?
2nd ammendment...vs. MURDER...
Heartbeats in child in womb. But You LIBS can't understand that.
sept you done gots a body up in side u.
I've got to remember to leave my water gun, pole and piece of wood at home but remember to pack my handgun just in case I need it! Sounds pretty crazy to me!
Oh, and don't even think about bringing any paper clips, oh no. Totally banned from what I've heard.
But someone showed up with a gun in Atlanta at an occupy gathering and that was given as the reason to call in the thugs and disperse everyone via clubs and pepperspray...
The mental state of the left is what makes possession of anything sharp or remotely dangerous a risk to any normal society.
left wing liberals are not the ones shooting people. it is right wing extremists for the most part. pay attention to the facts, loser.
Just trying to blow up bridges in Ohio.
But someone showed up with a gun in Atlanta at an occupy gathering and that was given as the reason to call in the thugs and disperse everyone via clubs and pepperspray...
Stuttering is one of the symptoms.
Just think how many of those law abiding citizens caring firearms are prierservice military that have been trained and know what the (RULES OF ENGAGEMENT AND DEADLY FORCE) means.I can imagine that there are allot of them in Florida.
Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
Criminals don't give a damn about the law, that's why they're criminals.
The "wild west" was a very polite place, not sure why everybody thinks it was so bad.
All of America was "wild west" in the begining and it was a bettter place than it is today.