Just a fine?

Surely a driving ban, some jail time, confiscation of the vehicle, and community service - the latter at a city morgue where one would hope that he sees the results of high speed crashes.

This guy needs to be off the road, if not out of the gene pool.

ORB 1943: Just a fine possibly not, that is criminal speed. He possibly will loses any Drivers licence he holds, Jail Time if not prison for awhile and a fine well over $3,000+ Court fee's.

What is the penalty for this offense?

what modifications has he done to that bike, 190 mile per hour speed possible, wow, Suzuki or Harley should hire him.

charged with fleeing police, reckless driving, speeding

OK: I understand the latter 2, but if the cops didn't chase him, or at least indicate they wanted him to stop, how can he be charged with fleeing police?

& Saxon its probably a stock 1200+ cc crotch rocket

saxon he probably hasn't done many mods. He was probably driving a hayabusa or GSR1000 which can easily hit those speeds.

Prison...? Not. His lawyer will get a him plea deal, as he should. The charge of "fleeing police" will be dropped.

His joy ride will cost him, but I'll bet he was having a great time. Doing stupid stuff on a motorcycle rarely hurts anyone but the pilot. This is not the end off the world folks. Not sure why it's new worthy in the minds of the MSNBC folks.

@Wrecked.......He was driving a "Crotch Rocket" as they say.

@saxon- I had a 2002 GSX-R 750 that would top out at 178 mph completely stock.... So would doubt any modifications were even added. But going that fast on public roads is a very stupid idea.

Oops!

Only fines? seriously doubt it, but doubt he'll do any real jail time. As for the idea that him doing stupid stuff on his bike would just hurt him...Not even close. The physics of any object going that fast makes it a missile and when it would hit any other object in the impact would rip thru a car or truck with such force that shrapnel from the bike would travel all the way thru the car/truck and maybe out the other side. The riders Body would travel, either hitting another car or the pavement with a force equal to dropping a cube of cement, equal to the weight of the rider, from 100+ feet.

How was he "fleeing police"? They never were in pursuit. If he did any fleeing the article doesn't describe how.

How times have changed. In 1973 I was clocked by CHIPS doing 135 MPH on I-5 while riding a 850 Norton Commando. CHIPS did not ask for my license, but they did ask me how fast I was going and in reply I told the truth. They did check the bike over to get it's numbers making sure that it was not stolen. I got a $25 ticket, and was allowed to go on my way with the stern warning to slow it down. They said that it took them 5 miles to catch up to me after I had slowed down to 100 MPH. CHIPS road 900 Kawasaki's back then.

Nobody chased him because they dont have anything that goes that fast.

$20,000 bond ... Now he has something to brag about. "It could have been $50,000!"

Well, thanks for the picture! That explains everything about this neanderthal. Hope he does not remain in the gene pool.

Wrecked--Rocket scientist? I was thinking brain surgeon. This guy will surely end up as a ball of guts and goo.

He needed to be arrested for his own safety and that of others. It's better than that the road kill crews should have to scrape him up off the highway along with the jack rabbits and possums!

Someone should ensure that his "Organ Doner" card is up to date--should get used real soon!

There wouldn't be enough left to donate at that speed...

See if I got this right....

citizen does excess of 120 and gets book thrown at him.....

2 state cops on their personal bikes get caught doing the same(ohio), and BARELY get a slap

on the wrist, AFTER a huge uproar.

ooooooook.....

How was he "fleeing police"?

If they lit him up at any point, and he didn't slow down or stop, he was legally fleeing.

For the record, the guy probably thought he WAS going 190mph. Most sport bikes have a significant amount of error in their speedometers, increasing as the speed increases. At 80mph it can be as much as 7 or 8 mph in error. Most folks who tell you their bikes can break 170/180/190 have read that off their speedometers. . . .and their bikes were actually doing about 20 mph (or more) lower than that.

Of course, 150mph-170mph is still ridiculously fast.

Hmmm... You could be right about that. From my fire department EMS days, I can remember motorcycle injuries and mayhem, as if they happened yesterday or this morning; and all of those were at low speed.

I realize that I should never judge by appearance. However, this guy just looks "reasoning impaired."

The truly scary thing is, he could be a registered voter.

And nobody has even mentioned the fact that this jerk-off doesn't have a motorcycle license. He should have to forfeit the bike for that alone and then do time for the other crimes.

Obviously the loser can't pass the test so he cheats the law (kinda hope the idiot crashes and dies soon....cull the herd......and yes, I truly do hope he kills himself.....no loss to society!!!!!)

I had a 1985 Kaw. 750 Turbo with some slight modifications. When that was done it had 250HP and I don't know how fast it would go but at a standing start it would go from 0-120 in about 2 to 3 seconds. You had to lay on the gas tank or the G-forces would pull U off the bike. I had to sell it because I would kill myself if I didn't. These crotch rockets make U aggressive when U are not normally.

Sweet DEATHWISH, there, Dale. Sleep well. Your parents must be so proud!

IS ANYONE MONITORING THESE POSTS?

Beezup,
As long as McCarthy doesn't take you, me or anyone else with him, what do you care?

The only thing I would request is to leave my name off the clean up crew when he does.

They should add a charge of reckless endangerment since he could have easily ended up killing other people on the road. He should definitely lose his drivers license for a few years and do some jail time to teach him a lesson. It is obvious that this kid does not feel bad at all about what he has done or recognize the danger he created for other motorists, so maybe some jail time will change his attitude. This was not simple speeding, this was creating a major public hazard.

Let him experience the thrill of a lifetime... give him a long ramp to ride up at 190mph... over the Grand Canyon. No parachutes allowed.

Could it be that he saw himself in the mirror and ...

This guy should take an excursion through Utah. There was one place out there that said "next exit 110 miles", and not so much traffic.!!

Yes he was doing something very dumb, but this is not the end of the world, He will get punished most likely jail time or probationn as well as thousands in fines. fleeing police will not stand as noone even gave chase or was even able to get close enough for him to know they were if they tried. personally i think he should fac e the same punishment that

citizen does excess of 120 and gets book thrown at him.....

2 state cops on their personal bikes get caught doing the same(ohio), and BARELY get a slap

on the wrist, AFTER a huge uproar.

the cops recieved as they have set a precident for not being punished, If anything cops should ALWAYS face harsher punishment then any citizen as they have violated public trust.

Kamikazi pilot on a rice rocket! He's in the running for a Darwin Award!

We all were at one point in time.

I may have been a dumb kid, but I was never that dumb.

The guy looks at least over 25. At some point we have to change "kid" to "adult," like "dumb adult."

I guess it might be a good thing his motorcycle is so very swift ... because he clearly is not.

There's a reason they call them donor-cycles . . .

I'll just leave it at Dumb Ass, that pretty much covers all age catagories.

Personally, it wouldn't be a major concern of mine if he did lose it. What bothers me is knuckleheads like this guy put my family, your family and everybody else on the road at risk when he rides like that. Dumb a$$es like that get innocent people killed.

Christian you are not educated enough, obviously, to speculate on such matters.

You didn't do very well in Physics/Science classes did you Christian....

Physics would suggest that bike would have an incredible amount of momentum, P=MV. The bike doesn't weight much, but it has incredible velocity. He can hit your car, I don't want him to hit mine, causing it to become difficult to control, go off the road and potentially injure me or my family.

hey christian

type in google Motorcycle hits car

and take a look at some of the images

wont damage a car, huh?

I'd much rather that someone who is that unaware of potential consequences be on a motorcycle rather than behind a steering wheel.

And he may not have been in a residential area, but he was caught in enough traffic to have to slow down to 100 mph, at least twice according to the story.

Speeding motorcycles can cause accidents that impact cars. I've seen some of those idiots standing on the seat of the bike!!!!!!!!!

Let them fall and see what happens to the cars behind them and to the sides of them.

There's a name for guys like this: ORGAN DONOR.

wahoo2,

Who wants a liver that had to be pulled down out of a tree?

Okay, so you disagree with me. Is that enough to censor my comment and collapse it?

Yes he was doing something completely reckless and should lose his license and his bike. My point was that he was putting his own life in jeopardy much more than that of others.

Obviously someone who doesn't even value their own life isn't going to give much value to other's lives.

If he wants to drive 170mph he should get himself on a track, period.

Wahoo,
Organ donors have to have "working" parts to donate...There probably wouldn't even be enough skin left for a decent graft.

Christian, you really need to take a little physics class (F=ma). At 170 mph a bicycle would almost cut a car in half. Instead of a bicycle, he was riding a few hundred pounds of a motorcycle.

Like what?

janman86

Like what?

Skydive

Costs a lot of money and you most likely you can't do it everyday. So that's shot down. Doing 0-160 in 15 or so seconds is a cheap thrill. I have never driven a crotch rocket, but I can only imagine the rush of owning one.

Yeah, go to the local 1/4 mile drag strip, spend 20 bucks to race the bike there. (Legally)

Skydiving is a lot cheaper than the $20,000 dollar bail!

Maybe skydive without a parachute.

janman86 My Kaw. 750 Turbo could go from 0-160 in about 5 secomds. 250hp, 350lbs. It was faster than this guys bike.

I have never driven a crotch rocket, but I can only imagine the rush of owning one.

They are quite a rush. 06 CBR600rr would hit 151 on the track, but I was kinda big for it (6'4, 210) so I slowed it down a little. My next one- BMW S1000rr- smokes the Hayabusa (the bike he had to be riding if it were close to stock... a GSX-R1k wouldn't hit 190 without some mods...) hits 196 or so.

My Kaw. 750 Turbo could go from 0-160 in about 5 secomds. 250hp, 350lbs. It was faster than this guys bike.

You either completely rebuilt it ground up, or you are full of it. The kawa 750 turbos had 112hp, and weighed 530lbs wet.

You did post earlier about some 'slight modifications', but unless you put a new built motor and turbo setup, likely with NOS, there's no way your bike got that high. Bikes today don't come with that kind of power stock, and it takes quite a bit of work to get them there- and that's with considerably better performance, considerably lighter weight, etc.

Re: Flex's

1985 Kaw. 750 Turbo with some slight modifications. When that was done it had 250HP.

My Kaw. 750 Turbo could go from 0-160 in about 5 secomds. 250hp, 350lbs.

"Shenanigans!"

I call "shenanigans," too. I know this ain't Cycle World, but a 45-inch gasoline engine is gonna need about 6 atmospheres' worth of boost pressure to achieve 250 HP, and the motor alone is gonna weigh about 350 lbs. just to contain it. While that Kaw motor is well-built from the factory, not a single stock part in it would be capable of sustaining 250HP more than momentarily. The stock fuel delivery system (pressurized pump, big lines, ginormous injectors) would call for major re-engineering just by itself.

Still, though, wouldn't you like to be the guy that told 'im & sold 'im, as his $23,000 check cleared?

Having been a paramedic for 30 years I can say authoritatively, if this knucklehead was going 170mph and hit a car going 70, there would be no organs left to donate. Hitting a stationary object the rider would be an organic spot. Maybe big enough to put in a baggie

There you go! Or a legal track, there are plenty out there and not all of them cost a ton of money to drive at. He didn't even have his cycle license. There are ways to do this stuff legal.

More like sponging up the remains. Not enough to use a shovel on.

they make bikes that go that fast cause there are people who actually abide the laws and race them at racing tracks. this guy obviously didn't care about any laws since he didn't even have a license.

"More like sponging up the remains. Not enough to use a shovel on."

Only if he hits something (which is very likely on a public road). Otherwise he'll get off easier than if he gets hit by an SUV at a stoplight.

If you pass a police officer at 170 MPH I think it's reasonable to think they would be in pursuit of you, except they don't have a vehicle that can keep up. Just what we need on the interstate, a 170 MPH chase with a motorcycle and a few police cars.

Cops need to make the budget (read: quota - cops will deny it, anyways), too. Extra charge (although phoney) may create more income for the PD.

I was wondering the same thing.

Because it gives the prosecutor something to bargain with when the plea is worked out.

Slowzuki? Huh?

Lol

Stupidity is not a crime, fortunately for many people. However, as you note the ACTIONS one takes while practicing stupidity DOES HAVE repercussions.

He will be heavily charged and prosecuted. Speeds like that will equate to a felony charge, plus the likely reckless endangerment felony charge.

I think he should go dust off the skateboard. That's probably the only thing he'll be able to drive or ride for a whole lot of future years. Of course that's only after he gets out of jail.

The bottom line is that there is no reason for these bikes to go that fast, the same thing applies to a car.

Thank you, I'll feel free to take my bike to a track where I can legally go as fast as the track and my equipment will allow... My car too, while I'm at it (or my old car, 240sx was fun on the track, but a mazda 3 just won't do it...)

Just because YOU don't participate in something, and some OTHER asshats abuse something, doesn't mean there is 'no reason' for it.

Excuse me.... at 170mph that 500 pound motorcycle will do enough damage to your car to kill you and anyone else in it.

I don't mind people 'speeding', but speeds like that are beyond insane. Especially on a motorcycle.

Just so you know XD. A VW jetta (3100 pounds) going 60, would do more damage than that 500lb bike doing 170. So honestly, if your only worried about the impact, then you should be pushing for lower highway speeds.

The Jetta is less likely to lose it that a Cycle at 170 mph with an unlicensed driver though. Mileage may vary...

DonnyL... Interesting thought, I believe you're wrong, but cannot say definitively. I'll ask someone who has a physics background what the possibilities are though.

What good would lowering highway speeds do, this guy broke all of the highway speed limits as the story relates.

The jetta is less likely to lose it. I wasnt contesting that.

The car weighs 6 and 1/5 more than the bike. In theory, it should be able to obtain the same impact, at a speed 6 and 1/5 what the bike was going. In this case. 28.3333333mph.

Lowering the speeds wouldn't do anything. I was talking about XD's "a 500lb bike going that fast would kill you" comment. A car going 60 would kill you.

All men responding about just where to draw the line on speeds, I see. Our modern culture praises men who are adrenaline junkies over responsible leaders.

My father was a Harley/chopper builder, and he never, ever cared about speed, and thought speeding was irresponsible. He preferred to ride free on country roads (not fast) and just relax on his bikes and let the cares fall away.

C'mon guys, don't try to find the place to draw the line in the sand on speed. Just be responsible bike riders. Perhaps none of you have been rear-ended with an infant in your car by someone irresponsible as I have. Scares the crap out of you, and afterwards, you have no mercy for dumb speeders.

Lastly, from the sounds of it, this guy is a likely sociopath if he truly has no remorse. Sociopaths also get "bored" easily, have no respect for laws, don't worry about hurting others, and are likely to do something stupid like this. I hope they watch this young man closely.

The analysis presented by DonnyL- is not accurate. The formula for kinetic energy is Mass X Velocity Squared. The relationship would be as follows:

Bike 500 lbs * 170 * 170 = 14.45 million 'units'

Car 3100 lbs * 60 * 60 = 11.16 million 'units'

So in the example the bike has greater kinetic energy, although not much. Of course there are many variables to consider with an elastic collision including surface area and elastic deforamtion.

Organ Donor my butt, more like cat food donor!

Nicely-put Jeff. I feel much safer when I ride with other bikers, as opposed to on the road with cars. In their cages, texting, talking, women doing their hair & makeup, not giving a damn whats around them.

If this guy could ride that fast, safely, he's probably a much better driver when he's in a car than the vast majority of drivers out there.

Come on Jeff, all this squid has to do is sign up for his local track day and he can speed all he wants.

If I was a betting man, and I am, the smart money says he's never completed an MSF course and was probably doing his 170mph run without boots or leathers. What a tool.

If you ride you should be more concerned about morons like this giving all of us a bad name than the people rightly criticizing him for it.

A) Reviewing these comments, even after allowing for the Internet's element of anonymous dumb-but-cute commentary that would never happen face-to-face, it's still clear that there's an element of hatred for bikes. Multiply that by the increasing distracted driving of cagers, and throw in a little Road Rage/frustration, and you can see why riding in traffic is more dangerous than ever.

B) I like bikes, especially hotrods. I ride bikes. It still completely freaks me out when some tool that wasn't even in my mirror two seconds ago blasts past at over The Ton (100 MPH). And I'm no fan of open jag pipes, either.

C) Licensed or not, dufus or not, way illegal or not, this guy in fact managed to complete his joyride without busticating himself, nor anyone else. And this probably isn't the first time he's done it. So all the organ-donor, bike-went-thru-a-busload-of-nuns, velocity-squared discussion is freakout gibberish, based on something that did not in fact happen.

OK Beezup,,yah see Poindexter , and thank you for allowing my cute commentary,,the point is and probably wasted on the wasted is prevention you know kinda like you don't have cavaties but you brush your teeth anyway,,you do right?

JFC... MOST but not all police don't try to chase motorcycles just for the reason you note. Chases often times result in serious accidents and police have been held liable for them. They also know that they DON'T have the ability to keep up with a motorcycle when they're driving squad cars. That's why they radio ahead. They also frown on using road spikes to flatten tires because that is also too dangerous to the rider.

If these Monkeys kill them selves, no lose, but the terrorists on the HWYS always seem to butcher somebody else that is following the rules of safe driving.