Girls pulled off train by their hair: NYPD seeks help in identifying assailants

Video purportedly shows suspects wanted for allegedly assaulting two people on a Bronx subway.

New York police are seeking the public's help finding a group of a dozen girls they say taunted two other girls during an early-morning train ride in March, pulling the two victims by the hair off of the train at a Bronx subway stop. No arrests have been made, but now, in the hopes of catching the suspects, the NYPD has released video of the alleged incident.

The two 16-year-old victims were riding southbound on New York's No. 4 train on Saturday, March 31, at 3:15 a.m. when they were approached by the group - a dozen girls ages 15 through 18, none of whom the victims knew, according to the police. The group took one girl's French fries and then dragged the victims by the hair off of the train at East 176th Street, according to police, where the group took one of the victim's cell phones before fleeing.


Both victims refused medical aid on the scene, police said.

Nine days after the incident, police received a tip via a website unrelated to crime activity that there was video of the alleged assault, a police department spokesman, who asked not to be named because he was not authorized to talk about the case, told msnbc.com.

"We received a tip that there was a fight on the No. 4 train on this website, and that's how we became aware of this," he said. Along with the tip was a short video with no audio showing teenage girls in a subway car, laughing. It's unclear what the girls are doing in the video, and whether the victims are in the footage.

"There's really not much to go on. [We have] no arrests. It's under investigation," said the department spokesman.

It's not known who shot the video. 

Anyone with information in regards to this robbery is asked to call the NYPD's Crime Stoppers Hotline at 800-577-TIPS.

The public can also submit their tips by logging onto the Crime Stoppers Website at WWW.NYPDCRIMESTOPPERS.COM or texting their tips to 274637(CRIMES) then enter TIP577.

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It seems the bully girls think they are entitled to the victims property. We need good old public floggings returned.

  • 16 votes
Reply#1 - Thu May 3, 2012 7:20 PM EDT

First off, I'd like to thank MSNBC for having a seperate page, once again, for discussion.... for folks with puters like mine, it really helps!!

This random act of violence seems pointless; fries and a phone you can't use because you'll be found. Just doing it to do it, it appears. Those can be the worst types of crime, the senseless. Boredom, wanna become a gang, it's hard to say why but if escalates that's where none want it to go. Perhaps not floggings, but once caught no more slaps on the wrists. Much needs cleaned up in all cities, and a few nice, hot days on a chain gang along with a record may be in order....

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 9:32 AM EDT

"not much to go on"? Trace the source of the video you idiots!

  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 12:16 PM EDT

A young lady complains loudly to the conductor to have a man thrown off the train. It seems he passed by her numerous times and would exclaim, "Wow, your hair smells so good", and "Gee your hair smells terrific!" The conductor tells the woman she is taking the compliment in the wrong way and she should be flattered. The lady retorts; "But the guy's a midget!"

    #1.3 - Fri May 4, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

    Comment # 2 and # 3 deleted.

    Racist derails.

    hoopty4u and DlRj, you are suspended for a day for violating rule # 5 of the Code of Honor.

    Don't make racist remarks, please.

    • 3 votes
    #1.4 - Fri May 4, 2012 6:01 PM EDT
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    What needs to be mentioned is why were 15 & 16 year old girls doing on a train in the middle of the freakin night..?? Where were their parents..??

    • 24 votes
    Reply#4 - Thu May 3, 2012 9:33 PM EDT

    SO TRUE!

      #4.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 8:21 AM EDT

      Thinking the same thing. Then people wonder why their little angles are getting in trouble

      • 2 votes
      #4.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 8:30 AM EDT

      The kids are probably wondering that same thing.

        #4.3 - Fri May 4, 2012 8:32 AM EDT

        Thinking the same thing. Then people wonder why their little angles are getting in trouble

        My right and obtuse never get into trouble, what are you talking about?

        They're such adorable angles.

        • 6 votes
        #4.4 - Fri May 4, 2012 9:01 AM EDT

        I'm not familiar with the area, so perhaps not the best to judge... but.... I wouldn't let my kids ride a train at that time of night. I have twins that are just over 15, and even when walking the sidewalks, visiting friends in our little town the rule still is be home by dark. Not start walking home or getting back once it's dark but home BY dark. If not, if they push it a little... several days of no going out. They don't get into trouble, but it's others I worry about and yes, maybe sexist, but all my kids are girls so I do watch a bit closer.

        • 1 vote
        #4.5 - Fri May 4, 2012 9:42 AM EDT

        They don't have parents!! These They are just baby making machine. Once the baby is born or even before they are born , their are gone.

        • 2 votes
        #4.6 - Fri May 4, 2012 12:25 PM EDT

        "Where's the parents?" Here's a idea. There could be a "small" chance that the parents or parent are/is working the night shift busting his/her/their hump/humps trying to put food on the table and a roof over the family's head. Sometimes bad kids do bad things and sometimes good kids do bad things. Or sneek out of the house late at night. If you think you can be with your kid every minute or know what they are doing every minute you are truly one deluded individual. If you ever let your kid spend the night at their friend' house this could be your kid.

          #4.7 - Fri May 4, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

          AMEN!

            #4.8 - Fri May 4, 2012 5:20 PM EDT
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            Lets, see, night, youngs girls out, someone filmed it, and the victims say they didn't know them? what a load of crap. Black girls bein black girls...openin whoop ass on each other, where's the parents.. oh yeah, doin' smack....no sympathy here....sorry. Call Al Sharpton snookie...

            • 14 votes
            Reply#5 - Thu May 3, 2012 10:01 PM EDT

            Black girls bein black girls

            Stncld, you are suspended for a day for violating rule # 5 of the Code of Honor.

            Don't make racist remarks, please.

            • 2 votes
            #5.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 5:59 PM EDT
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            Why are we wasting tax resources on this? Track down the parents of any kid identifiable, convict them of negligence, and throw them in jail to do hard labor that benefits the state. Other than that, forget about it. Scum harassing scum.

            And unless there are bruises, broken bones, or welts that last for more than 8 hours, stop criminalizing parental discipline, unless you really enjoy living in a society where no one is the least concerned about consequences for their behavior.

            • 5 votes
            Reply#6 - Fri May 4, 2012 7:25 AM EDT

            Hey, not all blacks are scum, just the ones we hear about the most (the squeaky wheels) that taint the whole race. But the time (3:15 am) makes you wonder what young scholars were doing on a subway train.

            • 3 votes
            #6.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 9:29 AM EDT
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            Looks like the victim was black. Where is Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and the outcry from the black community? Where are the threats to "burn down the state" from the black community?

            • 12 votes
            Reply#7 - Fri May 4, 2012 8:16 AM EDT

            The Zombies of horror movies live and walk among us and are multiplying.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#8 - Fri May 4, 2012 8:19 AM EDT

            Thanks for giving us a description of the attackers.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#9 - Fri May 4, 2012 8:28 AM EDT

            Who you see in the video is description enough !!!! Seems like this is just a repeat of many other videos I've seen over time and in person.

              #9.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 5:52 PM EDT
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              Black, white, Asian or WHATEVER, no one deserves to be drug off a train by the hair of their heads. NO ONE has the right to terrorize others. These little bitch3s need to have ALL THEIR PRIVILEGES taken away, be on house arrest, and do LOTS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE. They need to learn COMPASSION, HUMILITY and FEAR. They need to be put on track NOW!

              • 10 votes
              Reply#10 - Fri May 4, 2012 8:37 AM EDT

              they have to go to prison. Period.

                #10.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 12:28 PM EDT
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                Wow, almost entirely racist comments here. Ignorant and pathetic.

                • 7 votes
                Reply#11 - Fri May 4, 2012 8:47 AM EDT

                Now there's your problem. Teenagers on a subway at 3:15 in the morning. What were they doing there and why was someone making a video of it unless it was a setup of some sort? There is more to this than is being reported. Who made the video and why did the 'attackers' not take that device, too? Maybe NYC needs a curfew for teenagers.

                • 8 votes
                Reply#12 - Fri May 4, 2012 9:00 AM EDT

                There were other people on the train, too. Why didn't any of them have the balls to stand up for the victims.

                  Reply#13 - Fri May 4, 2012 9:06 AM EDT

                  They didn't want to be victims too. But then again, if no one stands up to the bully's then we are all victims.

                    #13.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 9:31 AM EDT

                    Yes, I'm sure the other riders were just quaking in fear over a bunch of dumb teenage girls...

                      #13.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 11:53 AM EDT
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                      O.K. - is it just me or is the problem '13 to 16yo' on a train eating french fries at 3:15 AM!!!!!!! AM. What are these minors doing out at 3AM!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lock em' all up! They all need to be disciplined...PERIOD

                      • 7 votes
                      Reply#14 - Fri May 4, 2012 9:15 AM EDT

                      Another prime example of caring parents? If they find out who these girls are I hope they mention their parents and the reason they let their child run around at 3 am.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#15 - Fri May 4, 2012 9:23 AM EDT

                      Sigh... Let me help those of you who are oblivious to inner city life.

                      These group of girls are most likely a gang (that's why they MAY have been the ones to video tape it).

                      I used to ask "where are the parents?!" too but then I got a reality check and realized a lot of these kids are part of the foster care system. Some end up with people who don't care so they let them do whatever they want or they are so out of control themselves that the "parent" can't handle them. I saw a short preview of this on the news last night but I turned it off because I couldn't bear to watch someone be attacked.

                      I am so fed up with bullies of ALL ages and RACES! I hope everyone of these girls are caught!

                      It looks like we need a new generation of the Guardian Angels! They were awesome!

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#16 - Fri May 4, 2012 9:30 AM EDT

                      The jungle of the inner city and lost kids shows itself once again. No limits, no structure, no discipline, no one who cares and we wonder why?

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#17 - Fri May 4, 2012 9:35 AM EDT

                      The jungle of the inner city and lost kids shows itself once again. No limits, no structure, no discipline, no one who cares and we wonder why?

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#18 - Fri May 4, 2012 9:36 AM EDT

                      The headline made this sound like these girls were abducted into the night. This is some teenage gang bullying a couple girls. This kind of thing happens all the time.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#19 - Fri May 4, 2012 9:42 AM EDT

                      So, that then means that everyone should just sit on the hands and do nothing?? I'll just bet that, if the shoe were on the other foot, you'd be jumping up and down and wondering why no one did anything.

                        #19.1 - Mon May 7, 2012 4:11 PM EDT
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                        It doesn't have anything to do with being black. There are plenty of white teenagers running wild too.

                        It's about breeders and the government.

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#20 - Fri May 4, 2012 9:53 AM EDT

                        Continuous stories like this make me happy I'm still living in South Korea with my wife. Since moving here to teach English, we haven't had a single reason to fear crime. There's a true respect for others, which is really refreshing.
                        I love the U.S., and my time living abroad has put into focus the areas of our culture in need of improvement.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#21 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:04 AM EDT

                        The public sees people from this culture committing horrible acts on a fairly regular basis. I think everyone recognizes that it is unfair to generalize about any group of people. Having said that, acts of violence committed by blacks happen so often the general public has developed an attitude. Of course not all blacks do horrible things. But since we can't tell which ones are sociopaths prepared to commit mayhem on some unfortunate person, we have developed a steer-clear posture of self-defense. This is particularly true for blacks dressed like hoodlums or acting in an outrageous manner. This isn't racism. It's conditioning. We have been taught that the behavior of these girls isn't rare for young black males or females, and that our offense at this behavior is considered racism.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#22 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:35 AM EDT

                        So true, and yet so sad. Too bad the blacks can't keep each other in line, but they don't want to be known as uncle Toms so they just look the other way. Sad part is, just like you said, that after a while we lump them all into the same group. The blacks I know and associate with are great people, but if I didn't know them personally I'd avoid them like the plague, becasue the bad apples HAVE ruined the whole barrel. Sorry Blacks, thats just the painful truth.

                        • 3 votes
                        #22.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:55 AM EDT
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                        Yet another reason to avoid that hellhole that's NYC.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#23 - Fri May 4, 2012 10:44 AM EDT

                        The two 16-year-old victims were riding southbound on New York's No. 4 train on Saturday, March 31, at 3:15 a.m. when they were approached by the group - a dozen girls ages 15 through 18, none of whom the victims knew, according to the police. The group took one girl's French fries and then dragged the victims by the hair off of the train at East 176th Street, according to police, where the group took one of the victim's cell phones before fleeing.

                        Wait a minute, ages 15 - 18 years old for all of them and what time was this? 3:15am? WTF are kids doing on a train at 3am? Obviously they have great and wonderful parents with the most awesome of parenting skills. As my mother used to tell me as a teenager, "there is nothing but trouble for you, at your age, after midnight."

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#24 - Fri May 4, 2012 11:00 AM EDT

                        from the looks of them probably coming back from a ghetto hip hop shooting/concert. odds are there are no parents just a 40 year old grandma hitting the pipe.

                          #24.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 11:41 AM EDT
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                          I'm furious about this whole incident. These girls were teenagers on a train and a group of teenage girls attacked them. All of this happened at around 3:15 at NIGHT!. What is the biggest problem here? It's that teenagers out this time of night!

                          When LAWS are made to make parents responsible for some of the things their kids do, then we wouldn't have 'gangs' out there (or any teen) at this time at night!!! Aren't the parents watching these roving idiots!!!

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#25 - Fri May 4, 2012 11:22 AM EDT

                          The old saying "Nothing good happens after midnight" still applies today. Unfortunately to all of us, not just children. I raised three boys and parenting is a tough job. Staying consistent and on top of their whereabouts is tiring! (and my husband was in the Navy, out to sea often). I'm not judging these parents, all parents know at times you give in, but can't imagine why they would be out THAT time of night. Am glad to see they are okay, bullying hard on kids, and that nothing more harmful happened to them.

                            Reply#26 - Fri May 4, 2012 11:51 AM EDT

                            Why does it seem fairly common to see people on this site using the word "Breeder(s)". It is just as offensive as the word "Fag". Yet nobody seems to complain about it...

                              Reply#27 - Fri May 4, 2012 12:21 PM EDT
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