Tag-1286798 this is not a twitter-feed! Just what is this 're-teller' trying to do? She/he should not be posting content to a supposed 'news' site unless it contains interesting (or at least factual) information! This is ridicules. Hey! there was an accident near my house a couple of days ago - I don't know what happened but I saw a smashed up car and police! Maybe msnbc will publish this for me and I can call myself a journalist!

Well Sic- they have to be first even though it is first with nothing!

Road Rage killing in Virginia the land of lovers? -- What's up with that Govenor Vagina Probe?

I see the Secret Service is at it again. Lets kill another women!! What the hell, was he on the job this time.

Jim-372206 I guess they LOVE to kill.

Shhh, Don't tell anyone, it's a secret!

"I'm on the job" was the agents way of saying "I was distracted & not paying attention while working." Any job where u operate a vehicle you still have to do whatever it is youre doing & still watch the road, traffic signals, & folks darting out into your path.

Stupid is as stupid does.

cheri-658004 - breaking news is in the moment - not the next day. Whatever happened to that girl happened yesterday! And actually if they don't have the whole story a writer should refrain from posting. They should wait until they have at least some facts before they attempt to write a news article.

Lol Sic, I thought the same. Something happened that was violent....not sure what, not sure how...but something. I get that they can only release what they have but being the first out with news doesn't make you the best, it just means you release information that can be very vague. I'm sorry for the woman that was killed and I truly hope her family will find the answers soon. I hope who ever did the hit and run is caught and punished.

Cars aren't playthings, they are perfectly capable of killing a person simply because the driver is angry, drunk, whatever. If you get road rage you need to pull over and calm down, don't get out of the car unless it's safe and never go toe to toe with a random person. It's a stupid way to get yourself killed in a spur of the moment anger fit.

I'm thinking the young girl was talking when she should have been listening.
Young people are like that these days.

The investigation is obviously on going so they can't give many details or the guilty party could easily go free.

I particularly like the seven one sentence paragraphs. This was more like someone's notes than news.

Well, if she had kept her dumb ass in the car she would probably still be alive. "Do not mess with people on the road, you do not know them, some of these people will kill you." That is advice I gave to my children and I hope they took it.

So...something happened at some point to someone Friday morning...concise and informative

That's about as much detail as it had on the news -- but they still managed to drag it our for several minutes at 4p, 5p and 6p.

Typical half assed MSNBC reporting. Maybe we should ban SUV's, guns, knives, etc now?

Tag, "try thiniing about what happened to this woman"

WTF? Aren't you the one criticizing someone else on grammar? What is thiniing? Stop being an idiot. None of us are perfect. Tag that!

Truly, this sounds like something you would read in a local newspaper. You know, to respond to the public's curiosity about what all the police cars and yellow tape was about at the local WalMart last night. Seems pretty random for national news.

If you have nothing useful to say .... then say something about what others say.

A woman died. That's unfortunate. Her SUV was gone? This is more than just not having enough info to run a story. It's playing it for maximum entertainment, even when you don't have enough facts to write any kind of real story. I'm not the MSNBC basher that some on here are, but have to agree this is really lame.

Why didn't MSNBC turn this into a racist story?

Why, did it involve you and your cracker friends, Mike?

since MSNBC has decided not to reveal the ethnicity of the people involved - it's a sure bet they were not "crackers'

Well Mike, it was a black SUV...

anyone who decries a "liberal biased media".......automatically gets ALL their thoughts and opinions cast into the dumpster waaaaaaay over there on the right.

Mindless Sophomoric News ..... Birdbrained Commentary

At least your post was articulate! Maybe you should be writing for MSNBC.

I think they meant to say:" She was run over by a car. We just don't know if it was the black SUV or a different car."

Still, I agree.

(1) It's a non-story...

(2) “It’s possible she was struck by the other car,” [...] “It’s possible she was struck by another person." does not clarify what actually happened to the woman

I heard MSNBC is having their stories writen in China these days.
It shows.

Exactly!

exactly Philip! If you get out of your car because of road rage you should expect to get biatch slapped AND run over.

Everbody involved needs to be bitch slapped for some reason or another.

jakester-2264183

exactly Philip! If you get out of your car because of road rage you should expect to get biatch slapped AND run over.

hmm...you blame rape victims too I bet...

Note to self: Don't bring a bitch slap to a car fight.

Where did the whole "bitch slap" thing come from? It says she was struck. It's certainly unclear but in the context I would certainly think struck by another person in their vehicle is most likely. However if typing bitch slap lights you up, who am I to deprive you? Bird brained commentary, denver bill 2? I agree. Yours certainly qualifies. Sorry, don't mean to confuse the issue with facts, or object to your filling in the missing ones with your fiction/fantasies.

The author says: “It’s possible she was struck by the other car,” [...] “It’s possible she was struck by another person."

That second statement does not say that she was struck by another person (in a car). That's probably what they meant, but that's not what they said.

Well I don't know anything about a bitch slap or even what it is supposed to be - but I do know she is flat as a pancake!

There are states where if you get out of your car during a road rage incident the other driver has a right to use deadly force.

Who knows why she got out of her car, maybe she had intentions of harming the other driver. Consider that if this was a road rage incident (we can't really know, thanks MSNBC) the young lady probably got out screaming and posturing, WTF.

I do not get road rage, I promise though, if you walk up on my car like a lunatic, I will run you over.

"cbawl" That is idiotic. you can't compare the two, What exactly was she planing to do getting out? assault? prove how tough she was? point being when you go LOOKING for trouble and find it how is that like the helpless victim of a sexual crime! Assume much?

"hmm...you blame rape victims too I bet..." How much you bet?

Agreed. The correct road rage conduct is to stay inside your vehicle with your handgun.

A woman got into a confrontation with someone in a black Chevrolet SUV and got out of her car

Getting out of the car is an invitation for trouble. This young woman used poor judgment and is now dead as a result. Let this be a lesson

BULLSH$T!!!! Hybla Valley is a medium income area. More Caucasians live there than other ethnic groups. DO YOU live in this area BigPaul?? Because I do live in the Washington area and I know Hybla Valley well. See this is what happens when someone gets diarrhea of the mouth!

But if BigPaul has read msnbc articles very much he knows how to read between the unwritten lines. msnbc always seems to miss pointing out "identifying traits" unless they are white. Despite the majority makeup of the Valley, bets are that it was somebody of diversity.

Shelinda is all I need to know.

tired, i can't speak for the average income level but i believe he said, "ethnically diverse". That means there is a mixture of many ethnicities and surely didn't seem to be blaming it on one race or another. calm down.

If your god gave a flying sheeet to start with...she wouldn't be dead huh...

your god is allowing kids to die over oil and mineral rights....to die of starvation in areas while a surplus of food is being destroyed to keep prices up, so profits are kept high...little alter boys get raped by priest, girls are stoned to death for being unclean whores because she was RAPED by her relatives friend..ya, your god sure cares, sure blesses us, sure is all powerful...

I could go on and on about your god and how it could care less...but why bother.

cbawl, your god allows these things too. I could go on and on about the pathetic rants of an atheist who wants to spew venom about other people's beliefs, when it all narrows down to a failure in the human condition. Morally depraved and morally lacking people will inflict horrors on their fellow man. Nothing has changed since the dawn of time. Attacking someone's beliefs is just another indication of that same failure in the human condition.

God had nothing to do with this. If you believe in one you have to believe in the other.

Nah, KC, cbawl is merely pointing out the weakmindedness of yapping about some mystical being's intentions at every twist and turn of human events. It only confuses the yapper further.

KC, well put.

Thank you for that descriptive description of the scene you seen, Dr. Seuss.

You gotta check out the link in the first line. Watch that video report.

This guy cannot be the best person for the job in front of a camera, my guess is he's the cheapest. I love the way he throws fingers around, how you can hear him sometimes and others he fades out, professional.

I damn near went into a rage watching this guy

This is precisely why I quit watching TV altogether, I can't stand the personalities they present us. You can read news, and miss out on all the personality, the body language, the grammar, and hype. And you miss all the advertising too. 30 seconds later, we'll let you watch the video.

Every video snippet needs a 30 second advertisement?

I went and watched the video.. Thanks LOL I blame you Devil for my road-rage now.. Dude and his pointing and his narrative of raising and dropping his voice and getting excited at totally wrong times.. Holy crap where in the hell did they find that reporter at..

"This is what it looked like EARLIER *swings arms wildly*" .. Someone loves their grandpa at that station because you cant tell me he is a real news reporter..

That reporter is ALWAYS overly-dramatic, no matter what story he's on. He annoys the cr@p out of me, but he's been on that station forever!

Hmmmm, I seen your point.

Oh I don't know. From a marketing standpoint, I'd give it a C+ While the content wasn't all that great. It caight your attention and led you to A) click on the link that brought you here and B) held it long enough to incite you to comment. Meanwhile the ads kept rolling... $$$.

And it does have a nice title...

That should be "caught". That's what I get for waking up too early on the weekend. My eyes don't focus like they used to.

Relax Santa Claus, 10 days no wonder my gifts didn't show up until New Year's Eve!

They're all on my naughty list!

You have obviously never been to New Jersey

sighber,

How do you know the death was tragic?

denver Bill 2

Since the definition of tragic is "deep sorrow" and since the victim was only 21 years old, what else could it be? In your culture, do you celebrate death? Are you one who is thrilled when someone you care about dies at a young age since they are now in a better place? I suppose that is another way of looking at it. In my world, we mourn the loss of everyone we care about. A better place may await but it is cold comfort to those left behind.

Congrats to you if you've never experienced the loss of a loved one. I've lived long enough to have lost many people I cared about. Each one is still with me in memory. We take our lives for granted but they end in the blink of an eye.

sighber,

I too have lived long enough to have lost many people I care deeply about, including my father last month. I grieve for him, but his death was not tragic. And, while I concede that my post was a trite throw-away line, I still stand by the thought behind it. Age, in and of itself, does not impart tragedy to a death. Suppose a 21-year old takes his 21-year old girlfriend hostage, slits her throat in public view, and is then gunned down by the police. Her death is tragic in my eyes. His is not. My condolences to you for those you've lost.

denver Bill,

Point taken.

Sighber - Excellent observation on one of the most significant factors in this story - the attitudes of many drivers in Northern Virginia/DC area. I've driven throughout the lower 48 - a lot - and this area (I'm a resident since '73) does stand out as having the rudest drivers in the country. I attribute a good part of it to a sense of entitlement - "I'm more important than you, my time is more valuable..." So they speed up to avoid letting you merge or change lanes, ride your bumper so all you can see is their windshields, and so on. Yeah, better to step back, let somebody in, and NEVER engage or stop/get out of your car - anywhere - there are also a few nutcases in other places!

Sighber many people died yesterday - all over the world. And each one was a tragic loss to someone. Not all were newsworthy though, and those that were deserve an accurate rendering of their final moments. The deceased (and their loved ones) deserve to know the facts. We do them a dis-service with anything less. Frankly, the only interesting part of this story (as we know it so far) is the comments.

dmh5

The value here as I see it is to remind people that there can be horrific consequences to getting into a confrontation with another driver and to put the area on alert for someone driving a dark colored SUV that may have damage.

But we are not sure whether what ever happened to that poor girl is consequences or not! Everything in this piece is speculative! Maybe she was a victim of road-rage...maybe she got hit by a car...or a person...?!? After reading this the only thing we know for sure is that a young woman is dead. So far this is an obituary - not a news story.

re: above comment - that was a lame analogy: this is a tweet, not an obit. An obituary would have much more information.

I grew up in Loudoun County VA. Fairfax, Loudoun, and most all of Norther Virginia is full of people that came there from other states. I left in the 90s for this reason. Too many from the northeast and other states and countries. It is a hot urban mess. I remember the commercials on the radio about avoiding road rage.

Northern VA does NOT represent what VA was and should be, rural and slower.

See that's just it Charles, That's exactly how a woman alone would NOT act. Even in the midst of road-rage. You don't get out of your car & challenge them to a fist fight!

Unless-Maybe-unless you've got a gun or something.

In Southern California it is smart to take for granted the other driver is packing an unregistered weapon and looking for someone to shoot.

Thanks for the info,,, I'm moving there next week... I'll take the Jesus Shield & Star Wars Light Saber with me

"it is smart to take for granted".....................huh?