When convicted he should be hanged in public, after being forced to walk between all those childrens parents on the way to the gallows with no police escort!!

What I think should be done with this person is going to be said by a lot of people here, so I won't bother.

Are you thinking something along the lines of try him and fry him???

Castration with a rusty spoon?

Do positions of trust mean nothing??? You abuse the same kids with the very thing that put many of them there to begin with??

Behind the jail....one bullet. Case closed.

Tattoo "Child Molester" on his forehead and let the prison population take natural selection to a new level...

I hope none of you sadistic bastards have access to children either.

People calling for torture should have their own children taken from them.

Yeah, Rarian tell that to to 10 year old boys who were raped repeatedly, point your finger back at yourself or stick it you know where......Oh. by the way, check out the bond amount which says he was not giving hugs out.

Rarian???

It's because of 'bleeding hearts' and and others that feel punishments should fit the crime, that are some of the reasons people AREN'T afraid of punishments it seems.

EXAMPLES need to be made, to make others then think "maybe I shouldn't do this".

Same with crimes like rape, real rape. 3 or 4 years ?? pfftttt.. BS. (and I'm male btw).

If all this idiot gets is 3-5 .. well. You think that's fair ? If so, I sure hope you're not a voter !

Torture ? Maybe not, but I don't believe that a quick and painless punishment fits either. So what would you propose PROPER punishment for this guy would be? Just curious.

IF this person is found guilty by trial. By their peers...then bullet to the head.

Child molesters cannot be rehabilitated. He needs to disappear.

Welcome to California, the Land of Sodom and Gomorrah where socialist policy have eliminated morality and social conscience. Not only is California morally bankrupt, but financially also. The once Golden State has been insolvent for the past 15 years. Its manufacturing and industrial sectors have either abandoned California or collapsed because of high taxes and regulations or the socialists merely legislated them out of existence. Even California's real estate scam has imploded during the housing bust and financial meltdown.

The only growth industry in California is the criminal justice sytem. The numerous criminals of rape, burglary, theft, homicide, and fraud have over-crowded even the newly constructed jails. The fastest growing government labor unions, aside from the police/sheriff unions, is the jail warden unions. The State's public school labor unions operating a corrupt education system provide a steady future populations of inmates for the current jails under construction.

"Welcome to California, the Land of Sodom and Gomorrah where socialist policy have eliminated morality and social conscience."

God, I hate Conservatives. They are a waste of carbon.

Tracey - Since most educators, especially in Special Ed, are liberals, I would guess the same could be said for them. (waste of carbon)

TracyS. Agreed..100%.

Bob. Please point out your source saying "since most educators, especially in Special Ed, are liberals" . What a pointless statement. But, I hope it made you feel better.

As pointless as tracey's, which I hope made ya'll feel better. (both morons.)

Bob calling names is the last resort of a weak mind. Learn to think for yourself before it's too late. No one who votes one way or thinks exactly like their "party" typically does all of the time is capable of independent thought. None of the states are hard enough on monsters like this. Unfortunately, lawmakers have attempted to make child molestation and rape also capital crimes but if they do, the molester or rapist might decide he has nothing to lose by killing the victim which is why those laws haven't passed. There are enough murders of women and children as it is.

F - You would be correct, as in calling person a "waste of carbon" based on their political leaning that you might disagree with. Funny how you jump in when the "attack" is aimed at a liberal but not when Conservatives are the target.

When you argue with a fool, it only proves theres two. How bout you both just zip it?.

#1.16 - Mon May 7, 2012 4:37 AM EST

Walsh, WOW, so you think that a Life Sentence for a criminal is Prison is worse then a death penalty, but the inverse for a VICTIM and the Family, Gross right?

I am Pro Death penalty, NO re Offenders in that! See how many in Prison for ANY crime re offended and how often!

Eagle Averro

I am Pro Death penalty, NO re Offenders in that! See how many in Prison for ANY crime re offended and how often!

How many wrongfully convicted and executed is acceptable to you? There is NO undo if we execute someone and later discover they were innocent.

thats easy enough to handle trust.... if they are convicted with dna absolute proof, 2 witnesses or they confess they need to be executed within 48-96 hrs with only 1 apeal allowed, any convicted without meeting this standard gets regualar apeals and will be on death row for 10+ years as they are now. If dna or 2 witness what ossible excuse you have then cause they will never be found innocent then.

#1.19 - Mon May 7, 2012 7:14 AM EST

" How many wrongfully convicted and executed is acceptable to you? There is NO undo if we execute someone and later discover they were innocent. "

I am game if YOU are.

1) Site the Number of in prison and early release that re offend and how many added victims

2) I will then Site the number of inocent ones that have been executed wrongly and what can be done to mitigate that.

3) Then we see what is the ' Minimal Damage " and what is the " Best for the society that is not perfect but striving for the best " rather then " Toss the baby out with the bath water " as it seems to ME to be YOUR attitude, if not please correct me.

wow... That you are willing to sacrifice ONE innocent speaks volumes.

I've no issues locking someone up for LIFE and truly mean until they leave in a box. If a mistake is made we can always release someone wrongly convicted. There is no undo button for someone wrongly executed. Can you execute someone yourself then live with it when 2 minutes later they tell you oops wrong person the one you executed was completely innocent?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/technology/chi-060502willingham,0,6033976.story

Although more than 100 people have been released from Death Row in the U.S. during that time, no government authority has concluded that an innocent person was executed.

locking them up for life costs too much for POS THAT DONT HELP SOCIETY. Tired of having to pay so much in order to keep them locked up with endless appeals free health care,access to libraries that are almost as good as one you would find in a college, feeding them 3 times a day with special foods for those with medical conditions or religious reasons. Then you have the costs of land arounnd the prisons to have a clear area and all the weights soccer fields and basket ball courts. Also the high cost of building more and more prisons and the guards to watch them and then you have the possibility of early release and repeat offenders as well as the few incidences where some do manage to escape. And then there are the ones that get convicted of crimes such as this that we then have to pay for "mental care" for them so that they can be released when they convince someone they are "HEALED". LOOK at the costs for housing these when a $25 rope will take care of many of them before you need to buy a new rope.

Have you seen the costs of the death penalty? It's not as simple/cheap as a tall tree and a new rope. You don't like the costs of keeping them in prison then work to fix that. The cost of ONE wrongful execution is beyond comprehension or any dollar value. Let me guess you are Pro life also.

How are you going to worry about a wrongful execution following the guidlines I outlined??? There is no chance for wrongfully convicted if dna or 2 eyewitnesses actually see the crime happen!! yes the cost for executing is expensive, but , limiting appeals to one based one these guidlines and executing them withing 48-96 hr will greatly reduce the cost. Also there is NO NEED to spend so much to execute them when you can use a rope and gallows over and over, they will be dead in seconds, it is cheaper then a bunch of drugs and an expensive doctor to administer them and a sterile room. Also with execution there is no CHANCE of repeat offenders AND those in juvenile detention can be assigned to watch as court punishment so they will see the finality of executions they could be a part of if they continue they way they are going. And as to pro life. yes I am and have been ever since ex-wife had miscarriage and she lost the baby we were expecting, It is a life AND IT HAS NOT KILLED ANOTHER COMMITTING A CRIME! SO DONT TRY TO EQUATE THE 2!!

I'll bet that at some point at least one parent questioned care at the school and was shot down by social workers and other bureaucrats because the parent had at some point been deemed inadequate. Or that a kid had tried to say something and was presumed to be manipulative or something based on the kid's history. Or a kid has reacted to abuse and is parked in some lockdown facility somewhere.

How many of you here are more concerned with doing something gross to this guy than helping the children he raped. If you are so concerned with the welfare of the children, then tell me, at what point did you give up on Kettrell Berry when he was a boy. What did you do for him when he was raped at the age of 10, huh? The majority of people who rape children were raped themselves when they were a child. But instead of helping those molested children you cast them aside and wait until they themselves commit a rape on a child and then send them to prison to be raped all over again. You just pick the easy way and put a bullet in their head or castrate them "with a rusty spoon" or do it cheaply and hang them all from the same gallows. . . . . @Rarian Rakista has pretty good insight when you think about it. People who call for torture or a quick death have no patience, is that what they have for their own children? Swift and vicious punishment. Just asking.

bluthunder

And as to pro life. yes I am and have been ever since ex-wife had miscarriage and she lost the baby we were expecting, It is a life AND IT HAS NOT KILLED ANOTHER COMMITTING A CRIME! SO DONT TRY TO EQUATE THE 2!!

Typical

A life is a life and now you are equating a life to an IT. A life IS a LIFE and if killing is wrong then killing is WRONG. We are not choosing between two lives where one is trying to kill the other but rather choosing to have the state kill in our name. The ultimate safe guard to preventing a wrongful execution is to not execute in the first place.

As far as saving money in prisons, while this isn't exactly the thread for it, the sheriff in AZ seems to have found quite the solution. Pink underwear, tents, and the Disney channel. The gym is a chain gang digging dirt and breaking rocks.

tnayew

How many of you here are more concerned with doing something gross to this guy than helping the children he raped. If you are so concerned with the welfare of the children, then tell me, at what point did you give up on Kettrell Berry when he was a boy. What did you do for him when he was raped at the age of 10, huh? The majority of people who rape children were raped themselves when they were a child.

And you KNOW he was raped how exactly? He is 49, not 29. There is NO evidence of prior bad acts nor his being abused. Quit with the posturing already and hypothetical already. If someone has been molested in the past then there ARE resources available out there. It's called taking RESPONSIBILITY for self. Simply because life has not been "fair" to someone is no excuse for them to do something like this to another.

Give him his day in court and if guilty put him in prison for life(there is no "cure"). If not, clear his name, allow him to sue the school (it is california after all) and move on.

Either way get the child help to deal with what they have been through, be it sexual or lying.

How many of you here are more concerned with doing something gross to this guy than helping the children he raped. If you are so concerned with the welfare of the children, then tell me, at what point did you give up on Kettrell Berry when he was a boy. What did you do for him when he was raped at the age of 10, huh? The majority of people who rape children were raped themselves when they were a child.

And that excuses or justifies their actions as adults? IF Berry was abused, which has not even been mentioned, much less proved, his abuser deserves the harshest punishment possible. Now, Berry deserves the same. Using someone's childhood abuse to justify, explain, or excuse their adult actions is just another attempt to diminish or negate personal responsibility. Why don't you look at the people who use their childhood abuser as a model of how NOT to be, as many of them do. The only person responsible for Berry's actions is Berry himself.

I'm sure this child is being helped, but what makes the situation much worse is that Berry was one of those who was supposed to be helping. How difficult will it be now to get this child to trust anyone else who truly wants to help?

Texas - arguing with fools is what the vine is all about.

@truth_verify and @Rene . . . . . It was very important to me to respond to your comment, however, Newsvine screwed up my e-mail address (I think on purpose), so much for free speech.

That's a start.

This god thing confuses me. So god works in conjunction with the police in condemning a perpetrator? Did god know this guy was going to molest a little girl but did nothing to stop it? Or did he know he was going to do it but he allowed the little girl to endure the trauma of rape just so he can send this guy to hell at some point in the future?

@BP, I am not religious in the slightest, but I can safely say that you obviously have no idea how religious doctrine actually works...

As for my two cents, IF he is convicted then I hope they don't assess the death pentalty. As mentioned above, I am not religious and don't believe in the concept of heaven and hell but do believe that, in a place where everybody resides as a result of their own immorality/poor judgement many of which have children of their own that they would love nothing more than to just hug and hold, the penalties this man will recieve are a fate worse than any hell of which I could concieve.

BP and Mud. Having read the Bible several times growing up, I can only assume the devil (evil) has as much power as God (good).

That is why this idea "rape victims should consider if a human is conceived due to the act it is a blessing of God." I would have to assume that the person committing the rape is a person of the devil (evil) and the fetus would be the devil's spawn. No blessings there.

I, personally, do not think the conservative nowdays believe in the devil.

#4.3 - Mon May 7, 2012 3:34 AM EST slightlyold If I may Please.

It seems you reading the Bible was at the Wrong time, and you got the wrong message from it.

1) YHWH is the Creator there is no other.

2) He Gave Adam and Eve a Choice as IF they wanted to have YHWH as their God.

3) Eve by the act of dissobedience chose NOT to allow YHWH as her God.

4) Adam fearful of loosing Eve Decided to join HER and hence also rejected YHWH as God.

5) They as the Progenitors of Mankind made a Choice to serve " The Creation Rather then the Creator ".

6) YHWH allowes and allowed " Fredom of Choice " but such freedoms also come with accountability and responsibilities.

7) Hence Genesis 3:15 to end About the need for a Redeemer from " The Ruler of THIS World "

Hey, what happened to forgiveness. Jesus didn't say he shouldn't pay for his crime but he did say you should forgive him too, didn't he?

#4.5 - Wed May 9, 2012 8:09 PM EST No, Some actions can and will NOT be forgiven. Only a Fool forgives all, and the Creator is no fool.

Hebrews 10:26 For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left, 27 but [there is] a certain fearful expectation of judgment and [there is] a fiery jealousy that is going to consume those in opposition. 28 Any man that has disregarded the law of Moses dies without compassion, upon the testimony of two or three. 29 Of how much more severe a punishment, do YOU think, will the man be counted worthy who has trampled upon the Son of God and who has esteemed as of ordinary value the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and who has outraged the spirit of undeserved kindness with contempt?

drushalli

I wish the article had provided more info.

Here you go... real shame we have to go offshore to get national news. Almost feels like what the Chinese have to endure.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2140245/Kettrell-Berry-Vice-principal-school-abused-kids-arrested-suspicion-child-molestation.html

The sentence should be death, right after being raped by Bubba and his buddies in prison.

This man was most likely raped when he was a boy (no matter what @truth_verify says) and did not get the help he so dearly needed. And now for his punishment @Ourdac wants him to be raped all over again in prison just so they can satisfy their ego, just so the vast majority of you can satisfy your egos. Those of you who wish him torture or death or castration or rape do not understand what go's on in a child's head after being so badly traumatized. The child must be attended to immediately by his or her parents, community, and society. If the raped child is not cared for and watched closely for a long time he will take his frustration out on the next child when he grows up and it will start all over again and I'm saying that's what society did to this man. I am not saying he should not be punished I'm saying if you don't understand what goes on in his or her head you will never get rid of the problem. Just put a bullet in his head so I can get back to what I was doing sounds like what most of you are saying. @truth_verify says it's taking RESPONSIBILITY for self, you should know a 10 year old can't do that, it's up to you and I to make sure any raped child needs to be looked after very very carefully and not forgotten as he or she grows up! Say what you want, but how many of you would actually carry out what you say?

I'm sorry Newsvine, I take back what I said earlier about no freedom of speech.

@truth_verify says it's taking RESPONSIBILITY for self, you should know a 10 year old can't do that,

This ADULT is 49 years old. YOU have no proof he was raped at any age. Even if he had been, he has had 28 years since he became an adult to find help. giving ANY adult a pass for a crime against a child is wrong. The ONE exception might the be the 2 years and a day rule with two people that are in a relationship so long as we apply it both ways. See LA statutory rape laws.

And yes this thread was messed up last night. Did you report bubblegum as well?

Agree with everything that you've said Jon but please don't forget the families and friends of the victims. They're going through this nightmare right along with victims. These monsters don't just destroy individuals - they wreck entire families for a lifetime.

Not just children, but "children who have suffered trauma or abuse or have mental health issues". Yes, their families too will suffer.

25 counts. Incredible, simply incredible.

In a matter of hours, or days, we'll find out this guy was a devout, church-going christian. Again.

Well said Chefaz, have you noticed that the Criminals seem to always have supporters, you know those bleeding hearts that bleed only for the Crims and not the victims and the families that have a " Life sentence " on them!

Pamela, I am a hard line Democrat and your post is ridiculous. Mitt Romney will not do what you suggested anymore than President Obama has destroyed the United States. You are just spouting nonsense just as others do against one man. For shame.

DMorgan, he was not a devout church-going christian. He might have been but that gig is up. And here is the redeeming thing, he might again.

"you shall know them by their fruits" This man did a very un-christian thing, and yes god would still forgive him, notice I didn't say he would also not discipline him as well.

Hate the sin, not the sinner

I've often tried to f*ck some sense into my women, but never a child

I'll gladly Pray for you, your daughter and your family, Marisel. I'm so sorry that your child has been victimized.

Count me in.

here here!!

Please give all possible help to your daughter; everyone else give all possible prayers. I was sexually abused at age 8...now am 64...reported the abuse to my parents who said, "don't tell anyone else." Am still angry about that. Different times, I know, but the fact remains.

Marisel's daughter need prayers and professional help....now.

Indeed it IS, and what Might come to be is that this Disgusting piece of you know what, might well have a list as Long as your arm of previous, BUT they are allowed to continue unabated and bring more untold harm and suffering, why is this sick society only " sympathetic/empathetic to criminals and not the Victims?

Simple solution a " Re Offending Paedophile should be executed with NO delay " Notice RE Offending, another words Prove Paedophile, Given a Second change and they Blow it, then ' Blow them away " NO other child needs to be sacrificed for " their heinous practises"!!

Eagle, you see this is your and society problem, you talk about offender repeating again, well like in most case, this guy, or should I say Man, was not a offender as of yet. He is just like any man that is walking the street, your dad, brother, uncle, policeman, fireman, senator, and or teacher, (MEN) like sex and they do not haft to be an offender to do it. so get off ther band wagon of people who have done their time, and trying to make a life for them selves and there family, And why must they regesiter, to know there where about. But a murder does not and he is free to kill again, without being notice. So which is worst in your eyes, someone having sex with someone, or someone killing someone???

#12.2 - Sun May 6, 2012 3:07 PM EST

Lary, I feel Sorry and I pity YOU if you think that a Paedophile is less guilty then a Murderer, YOU obviously have NO feelings and hence cannot comprehend the PAIN that a molested Child AND the family go through, not for a day, a week, a month, but for a LIFE TIME, go seek some medical help before YOU also become a paedophile!!

Larry, anyone with a criminal background has a difficult time in life getting jobs and places to stay even if it is not like this case.

Once the cops find out you have a violent crime on your record, they do their best to beat you up every chance they get and then say you assaulted THEM!

They do not want ANYONE to BE ABLE TO CHANGE THEIR LIFE AROUND.....it is a matter of "job security".

Let me remind ALL of you that it is not only those with a "criminal background" that takes part in such activities, and perversions. It is your own mothers, brothers, sisters, and fathers and grandfathers, uncles and aunties!!!!!!

It is only a matter of 'WHO GETS CAUGHT', doing what!!!! Everyone alive has some kind of problem but all people who live and breath should be allowed to get a place to live and have a job!!!!!

Consumer, well let see how about this just castrate all Babies Boy's at birth, and that should solve your and all women problem, oh and by the way How did you get here in this world, by what mean????

larry. After your statement above, you need professional help also. What did consumer equalizer write that led you to think women want all baby boys castrated at birth. Consumer merely stated that he should be, if convicted, castrated and put him in the most miserable nasty hole possible.

I hope your statement is a result of a hangover or something.

Why? The whole organization looks as if it took immediate action once they were aware of the situation. He is in jail and the district is cooperating with the police. Is this not what is supposed to happen? I love how even when a school district does the right thing it isn't enough for some people. This school district is grappling with immense budget shortfalls, so thank goodness this didn"t fall through the cracks.

My apologies. They are a county based service and not a San Diego Unified affiliate, who have had a fiscally rocky year. However, my comment still stands - at least the center is doing something and not ignoring the problem.

Has this individual had any " priors"?

Lissa, If the Punishment does not FIT the crime, why would the criminal stop?

Mr. blackhorse, I see that you have neve been to jail, just what you see on T.V. they send people with sex crimes to Prison that are for people with sex crimes, and there is no big black bubba there, to let him know how it feel. And blackhorse are you a man, and do you like sex???? Just asking, right or wrong, just asking.

Most prisons and jails separate the molesters/pedophiles

I cannot stand that saying "he is 'toast'". Does that mean everyone will butter him and eat him, or what you idiot!

larry, what is your problem. What difference does it make if Blackhorse is a man or woman and if he/she likes sex or not. Just because you like sex, man or woman, does not make you want to have sex with children. I hope someone you know is close enough to you to see what you are and help you seek help.

You live up to your name.

The molesters put the fear of "Do not tell anyone, or else!" into these kids and how do we exactly explain this danger to 4 year olds or 10 year olds?...without scaring the heck out of them??

Schmetterling1 I am sure that OUR Hearts go out to YOU, thank you for your VOICE and please keep strong, for ALL of us ((((( Hugs)))))))

Pam - many schools now have cameras in areas where students are allowed - and - neither teachers or administrators are allowed to meet with a student alone. A Vice Principal for instance is not allowed to meet with a student alone even when discipline is involved. Some schools now have TWO teachers who are certified as counselors - so that no counselor has to meet with a student alone. It may be that there are some students who won't talk in these situations - but - educators are now taking steps to protect themselves from false accusa