Obviously you can't tell the difference between racists and activists.

pastor65 - What does Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have to do with this article. These people are spewing hatred against others because of the color of their skin. In all my years on this planet,54, Jesse and Al never hurt anyone because of their race.

Racism is stupid but it's not illegal. Acting on those beliefs can be illegal, but not just having them. No thought police allowed in the USA!

Of course they'll cause civil unrest...that's their mission. Divide and conquer.

They left for FL because of good law enforcement intel. in CA. There have been several suspicious murders of skin heads in N. Calif in recent years. Some believe committed by members of the terrorist branch of the 18th Street Gang, which out numbers American Front 3 to 1.

I am hoping the prosecutors in this case have more than we have been told so far. Otherwise these people are going to walk!

It is not illegal to own firearms.

It is not illegal to own AK-47's.

It is not illegal to stock ammunition's.

It is not illegal target practice.

It is not illegal to own K-rations or C-rations.

It is not illegal to have Nazi Tattoos (even if not smart).

It is not illegal live 5 miles down a dirt road.

It is not illegal to put walls, fences, barriers up on ones own property.

Surely the prosecutors have more than this! If they do not, then why the arrests now? Politically motivated? To Obamas advantage - you bet!

orphalslyconvicted,

Terrorist groups hiding under the 2nd Amendment...

We need to find ways to better organize and maintain well regulated militias. Otherwise, next time government intervention may come too late!

At least 10 members of the group, which authorities described as a militia-styled, anti-Semitic domestic terrorist organization,

Or, "sh*theads" for short,...

The blacks are allowed to be racist but not the whites we are not allowed to defend our self or our daughters I say down with america let the whole place go belly up.

Actually, Whites are allowed to be racist, as guarranteed under the First Amendment; they're just not allowed to violate the 1964 Civil Rights Act. The problem is that some racist whites think the First Amendment gives them the freedom to violate federal laws such as the Civil Rights Act, and to kill people and incite civil unrest as these folks tried to do.

Time4apurge- Prosecutors do have more. Such as attempting to shoot into an occupied dwelling with evidence of prejudices. A hate crime state and federal. I didn't know that paramilitary training was a crime in itself but that may be just Florida.

Overlord, you wouldn't know what a "teabagger" is until you got whacked upside the head by a far left nut job anarchist "protester." These skin head freaks are as about as much a part of the Tea Party as you are.

“protectors of the white race.”

YECH!!! no thank you. go back to your caves until you learn how to invent the wheel.

completely agree - they are terrorists..

Illiterate rednecks, this is just one result of a lack of education. Of course Rick Santorum & the people who support fools like that think education is arrogant.

JoeB said:

What about the Black Panther who put a "Hit" out on Zimmerman,why wasn't he arrested?

He was. Weeks ago, in fact. Do a google search for 'Black Panther Zimmerman bounty arrested' you'll find it.

Everyone said:

Racism is stupid but it's not illegal. Acting on those beliefs can be illegal, but not just having them. No thought police allowed in the USA!

Er, Orphalselyconvicted is right, they are terrorists. White power and white supremacists are clearly on Homeland Security's list:

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awesomealex; no sane, logical, balanced person starts thinking the Left or Right is better than the other... your comment shows your true colors. A radical is a radical, and they are by far the minority - to say there is a New Age Liberal is to think like these skinheads... drop the fear and enjoy life.

LOL Amanda - that extremism stuff looks expensive. I'm too cheap to even buy a new cell phone, let alone bullets and armor vests.

I have to admit I browsed to this article just to se if there was a picture (and I wasn't disappointed,) White supremacists invariably provide the best refutation of their sick ideology. THis bunch certainly does. If only I could get them removed from my neighborhood watch!

Amanda, Nzinga was arrested (the guy that put the bounty on George Zimmermans head, UNFORTUNATELY, he was arrested for an un-related gun charge, not for the illegal bounty on Georges head. Get your facts straight. Other than shooting at an occupied house (about as bad and stupid as it gets) these people did nothing wrong, other than being stupid.

Racism is stupid but it's not illegal.

It should be and can be depending on how far you carry it.

@time4apurge, "R" person these are the responsable, patricotic, and law abiding members of your party not mine. Thank you for pointing this out.

They're lucky they didnt get droned..

I'm just glad i'm a independent, non racist. I don't put my foot in my mouth and apparently happier than most on here.

RW, seems to me that many only open their mouths to change their feet.

I'm glad these fools were arrested before anything serious was done. They should be charged not only with civil rights offenses and racism but also for homegrown Terrorism.

These guys sound like a bunch of idiots but from the article I can not see where they have done anything illegal. Making general statements of violence may be construded as a crime but in reality unless detailed planning took place and their is real evidence that they were going to act then they will not be convicted. Also we have the right to form militias in which now the US. Hopefully they have some real evidence cause these guys sound like whack jobs.

Here's what I find ironic,

You have the Black gangs that shoot each other up and you have the White supremest that shoot each other up.

Both commit stupid acts against themselves as racial groups.

Pete said:

Amanda, Nzinga was arrested (the guy that put the bounty on George Zimmermans head, UNFORTUNATELY, he was arrested for an un-related gun charge, not for the illegal bounty on Georges head.

The fact remains that he was arrested and is NOT free to follow up on the 'bounty'.

It might not have been for the bounty, but I would not be surprised if that might have been partly a factor; with the Martin case being such a divisive hot-button topic currently, the government can't be seen to be 'taking sides' in the case. I do believe it's at least going to be mentioned in the guy's arraignment.

drainbramage said:

LOL Amanda - that extremism stuff looks expensive. I'm too cheap to even buy a new cell phone, let alone bullets and armor vests.

I'm a practicing pagan, and so as a result I know several people who are Odinists (they refer to their God as the AllFather Odin. I can tell you personally that NONE of them would have the time or the money to plan any terrorist attack--they are all avid Dungeons & Dragons/World of Warcraft fans and haunt eBay regularly looking for re-enactment items. They meet once a month and have a good old fashioned Norse war complete with period costumes and wooden weapons once a year. For the government to label them a terrorist threat when neither they nor anyone they know has ever blown up a building or done anything that could remotely be considered terroristic is...well, we don't understand it.

These guys were arrested for THINKING about shooting into a house people. Have you heard the New Black Panthers in the last couple years?? Why are those scumbags still walking the streets with their AK-47s? Get a handle on all the hate groups and maybe we can have a great country again. With all the anti-white violence and rheteric, I don't blame them for preparing, just trying to act out. You should check out the black liberation organization and new black panthers and see what they have going, it will open your eyes. Get educated before you spew please. The definition of racism is the hating of another for the color of their skin. So why do only whites get the label when there are latino and black groups that call for violence on whites? And another thing, who in the world gets to choose the color of their skin anyway? You are born the way you are and what you do in this world is what is judged after you are gone. Racism is just stupid!

Okay...Now...Take a good, long look at the faces in the photo. Anyone old enough to be their parents, who'd own up to them as your children...please raise your hands...roflmao.

I look at these faces and see punks who copy each other's bully act, style of dress and supremacist attitudes. Now, come on. Look at that photo again. Do they in any way, remotely, look superior to you? And if so, by what level of superiority? Neanderthals emerging from their dark caves after T-Rex chased them there?

If these guys are the master race we're in big trouble. HA HA, Masters of the trailer park. You can spot stupid right off when they conveniently tatoo their face and neck.

Reading comments on here is like watching the downfall of mankind. They were white racists, just like there are racists of every race. It is horrible no matter what. We don't need to come on here and bash white people, black people, brown people, Democrats, Republicans or Tea Partiers. Have we come to the point where as Americans we cannot just simply admit and agree that these people are idiots and trash and belong in jail if they have broken any laws. Stop trying to condone one thing by bringing up other unrelated things (Zimmerman case). Just admit that what these people are doing is wrong, it is pretty simple.

Just a couple of points on this, first why is it that those that claim to be "Supremest" are the lowest common denominator in evolution and second am I the only one that after looking at their pictures is hopeful that they haven't reproduced.

I don't give a crap about these folks but it sounds like they have been arrested by the thought police. One of the charges is that they were preparing for a race war that may or may not come. Since when is that a crime? Can someopne be arrested for preparing to defend their home against a burglary?

I also see comments that they need to be arrested for racism. Like it or not folks, racism is not illegal. These people should, and probably will walk on these made-up charges. The fact they were arrested should scare everyone on all sides of the debate. This is beyond illegal on the part of the police. I'm not supporting them, but the next in line could be someone you support, or even you. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but arresting someone for having racist thoughts is beyond scary and the government has crossed the line and it is they who should be brought to justice.

We are all chosen for life by God, and are all brothers. Let us all practice patience and love to these misguided brothers. I for one hope they will see the errors of their ways.

Do something fun for a change -- get your DNA tested, find out where your ancestors really came from! You'll be in for a shock, because they all came from Africa, some just walked out of Africa before others. Race is a human construct, and one that should be deconstructed ASAP!

myspellcheckerisbroken - While I get what you are saying, did you ever for one iota think that maybe, just maybe, the police have more evidence or events that MSNBC failed to mention that led to the arrest??? Shocking I know!

Also, I am no law scholar but isn't stating that you are going to take people of your own country to war some sort of law breaking? I understand that in America people have the right to be idiots and racists, but if you don't think a group of people preparing to go to war with our own citizens don't need to be looked at and possibly arrested (they did shoot up an abandoned house correct?) then you are probably taking that notion a little too far for one reason or the other.

yay. right wing terrorism growing exponentially, running rampant, fast and loose.

meanwhile, the 'both sides do it' crowd want to conflate them with the black panthers, peta, environmentalists, radicals from the 60's, and so on.

because heaven forbid anybody makes it clear that since president obama was elected, there has been an average of one act of terrorism a month by people who are demonstrably influenced by, and sometimes connected to, the current republican party and its relevant leaders.

heaven forbid anybody makes it clear that on the 'other side'? crickets and tumbleweeds. unless of course, you want to count being glitter bombed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ0wG8Z7_uM

I do not condone the beliefs of this group..........BUT,

they arrested them for TALKING about these thing even though they made no attempts to actually do any of them? and since when is paramilitary training against the law in our country?

sounds to me like the police jumped the gun and did a poor job. they are going to get off without even a slap on the wrist.

people can believe there will be a race war, they can believe the world will end in 2012 too. they are allowed to prepare for whatever. but unless they actually do something to hurt someone or violate their rights...............then they didn't actually do anything wrong.

if big brother was sitting in on everyone's discussions with like minded people, half of our country might be in jail. this informant thing is starting to more and more reek of entrapment.

not the best police work ever, by the sound of this article.

cc in st louis.....Al Sharpton is as much a Jew-hating bigot as the lovelies pictured above. I lived in NY during the Crown Heights pogrom (the liberal media called it "riots" but I can tell you the Jews weren't rioting, it was all one-sided so that makes it a pogrom). Sharpton appeared at a church in Brooklyn and he said, "We want the Jew and we want the Jew now". This was in reference to the driver of the car that killed Gavin Cato, the incident that started the pogrom. He didn't say "we want the killer", nor did he say "we want the beast who killed Gavin Cato". He said "We Want The Jew!". If that's not the ranting of a racist, bigoted piece of you know what I don't know what is.

Come on folks, READ the article. They never shot into a occupied dwelling. They "discussed" a few things but DID NOT carry out a single thing. I wonder why the "insider" really destroyed his phone and chip... could be he can't back up a single thing! ALL of this is based on information from one source. There is not one single thing mentioned that amounts to physical evidence. There is evidence of stupidity but if that was illegal most of the posters should be locked up.

As a white male all I can say is if that is what is out there "protecting me" I am truly screwed. How come the white supremacists are always inbred looking uneducated conspiracy believing idiots.

@ Devils Son - Simple, because bigotry, racism and low IQ go hand in hand (and that is an actual scientific backed fact - just FYI).

To those who say they did "nothing wrong" (Pete)...uh being a racist is wrong..period, I will assume you meant they had not done anything illegal.

To those who say they had the right to think, plan, prepare for all this but because they did not get to actually do it. By your logic anyone who plots to blow up a building but does not actually follow through is 'just exercising their rights" That would include Terrorist Cells fueled by Extremist Middle Eastern Groups in the US. By your standards they would not be guilty of anything until they actually did it.

The only difference is those supporting that theory here, are actually just supporting the 'thought' processes and attitudes of these filthy pigs.

Are you guilty when you buy a gun to kill your wife with? Not according to you, you are only still thinking about it. You could go deer hunting instead.

Are you guilty when you make a plan to kill your wife, figuring out a opportune time and location? Not according to you, you are only still thinking about it. You may just be considering the possibility.

Are you guilty when you take your gun to that location and wait for her to appear? Not according to you, you are only still thinking about it. You could decide to go home instead.

Are you guilty when you point that loaded gun at her from the bushes? Not according to you, you are only still thinking about it. YOu have not yet pulled a trigger.

Only when you actually pull the trigger have you done it. UNtil then you were only plotting, thinking, planning etc.

This being 2012 why haven't we gotten past skin color? We are here for such a short time why waste it hating. Defenders of the white race huh, I think I'll stick to my own defense.

Okay - Now those with the super bitchin tatoo's are allowed to look mean and fierce and keep your head level.

Those without facial ink please tilt your head to the right in shame...

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Their parents must be SOOOO PROUD of them. I love the facial tats!!

The irony for me is that, like MOST White Supremacists, these people would never been able to join the ACTUAL SS because NONE of them could provide records of Aryan ancestry back to 1763 as REQUIRED to JOIN the SS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS

These slugs are nothing but a bunch of uneducated, backwoods, hillbilly, A**holes. Look at them and their women....fat and ugly! I think they need to worry more about putting down the pork rinds and twinkies......scarey!

For the person that thinks that JJ or AS have never caused any racial unrest towards the whites in the form of racism.....what color is the sky in your world? I am just curious because it sounds like you are living in a dream world and I was curious because here in reality, the skies are a sad shade of trouble.

Sharpton and Jackson have been in the headlines many times and each time it was to support someone against someone and that "against someone" was white in most if not all cases. They are racist as racist can be towards whites. Oh how I wish MLK was still alive. I truly believe that he would have maintained a much better world that we currently live in.

There will always be prejudice wherever we go and there will always be some level of judging towards each other because that is the human race, and it does not matter if you are religious or not, everyone does it and it does not make you a bad person but to think that it does not exist through these people is pure ignorance. That is another reason why we are in such a melee of a society as we are. Sad

I can tell you that I think this is wrong, but you already know that, I can also tell you of the thousands of race crimes that happen every day because of minoritys, but you would choose to ignore them, and finally, I can tell you how your side has crazies as well as ours, but you would choose to bash me. Anyone else see the hypocrasy?

Some of you are deaf, dumb and blind.

If you haven't noticed Zimmerman is a Hispanic. No matter how you put it. Don't really care who was the father. He was birthed and came out of an Hispanic so he is a Hispanic.

Re: Article. These guys aren't the real threat in this country, the government is.

These guys watch too many old episodes of Gerardo and are bored of banging these fat ugly sisters of theirs. They got guns ! We got guns too! and the government has even bigger guns. SO why are we fighting each other there is a bigger threat and we all know what it is.

@jasonfin

I appreciate you reading my post (honestly) and I thank you for the comment. Yes, I did wonder about the evidence against them, but none of that is listed in the article, and I am only commenting on the article.

Also, the impression I got (from the article) is not that they were going to start a race war, but that they were preparing for one that they believe is inevitably going to come. Crazy or not, that is still their right if they so wish to exercise it. I know folks from various races who believe a race war is coming and is the next civil war. I guess we should lock them up.

It also stated that one of the charges is for para-military training. What? Illegal? The article didn't say they had assault weapons, it said they trained. If all of this is the case, they walk, plain and simple.

My, My, what an intelligent looking crew. The Republicans and Teabaggers encourage this kind of hate and violence and when it actually happens you notice they really never come out against the violence. It's always the kookie looking and acting kind of people who are like this. Says alot for the Republican party, doesn't it? Kookie? Oh, yes they are.

SENT all this bunch American Taliban to Afganistan for militas taining ! Won't be surprise,as this Bunch do shares the same -mentality of TALIBAN ideology and they can be the perfect collobration of US-ARAB working partners in the making "OF TALIBAN WORLD "

Where's the crime?????????????????????????????????

These skinheads just appear to be your average Teabagger to me... I don't see what they've done that Romney & Company isn't promoting? If we are to arrest these fools then we will have to arrest the entire Republican party for the same thing

Sigh...I guess you didnt read this part, huh?

the American Front as a California-based group of skinheads

You know, one of the most liberal and Democratic state in the nation.

From the article:

"According to court documents, members of American Front discussed acts of violence that included causing “a disturbance” at City Hall in Orlando, shooting at a house and attacking an anti-racist skinhead group."

I freely admit that I am not a lawyer but, doesn't this fall under: Conspiracy???

nwnative, stop with the BS, this isn't a Repub or Demo. problem, it's a human nature problem born out of ignorance, thanks for proving my point.

(1:53) Franklytrue. It sounds to me like you are planning to kill your wife!

I expect that we will see your mugshot on here in a couple of days. Seems right to me, since you've premeditated the crime.

Protecting your daughters??? Really? Jeebus, I didn't ACTUALLY think, anyone still alive bought into that crap.

... Which makes me think.

I dated a black guy for a while. And, at the time, I used to think it was so funny that he would get really paranoid sometimes, and say things like "I'm with a white girl, I gotta be careful".

Now I understand.

snarky68 actually we have a very large population. And yes there are racists. And is it not odd that as you called it (You know, one of the most liberal and Democratic state in the nation.)

Produced the Most republican revered President in the Nation (Ronald Reagan)

Cali was mentioned as well for the Leaders of this group they came out of the Southern Part of the State L.A. area. And the leader had moved to Sacramento Northern California and was killed. In the More Conservative (R) part of the state. Away from the largest Gang the Mexican Mafia. And closer to the Racists groups. Most likely by one of his own, POWER STRUGGLE

As for the race part. Most of the California Gangs have members of other Races in them. And there is laws in place even for them Called injunctions. Where they cannot be seen hanging out with other known members of a Gang. Or they get arrested for just that hanging out.

These people who join groups like this are one in the same with gang members. People filled with hate for others. Brainwashed by others. And have contempt for society at large. They are not freedom fighters or Patriots. If they were they would know that every RACE in AMERICA has put their Life on the line at one point for our Country.

Just take a look at our Service members.

In no way do I support these tools, but it just seems a bit one-sided when it comes to "racial aggression". Hell, its completely the opposite now days, white people have to put up with it every single day listening to snide comments on TV and Radio, jokes, racial hate, etc., and the best part is they're not allowed to say anything back because that would be racist and disrespectful. I mean really, think about it, if caucasians talked 25% of the sh** that is talked about them, directed at african americans or hispanics, look out.. LA Riots all over again. Are whites rioting the streets because they hear the constant racial hate from people like Kanye West, Al Sharp, Jesse J., Oprah, Jay-Z, etc., no, they're not. They're expected to just take it.

I'm not racist at all, but everyone should have to abide by the same respect and laws no matter what race they are. Its the simple fact that people CAN get away with it, that they do. Its almost as if its perfectly acceptable to be racist towards white people now for sh** they had no part of 100 yrs ago, same goes for the people that are being racist, drop it for gods sake, no one alive is responsible for it. White people are the punching bag now and anyone and everyone can legally be racist towards them without incident or consequence.

Its BS.

This is the kind of mentality that the Nazi's have/had. Someone brought up a good point earlier in that genetically we are all 99.9% the same. We evolved from a earlier form of homo sapien in Africa. All our roots are from there. If you can't see it then, sad for you. We are all the same. And, anyone that claims to be a Christian, Jesus was the Middle East, which makes him a dark skinned person, also. We are all brothers and sisters. What is wrong with people. Fear, hate and greed. Sad and tired of it.

tcoal-quit your whining. Poor baby, you are soooo wrong. it has only been about 50 years and the people that experienced the discrimination are still alive and remember. And yes the people that sponsored the @!$%#e passed it on to their children. Hatred is a terrible thing to proport. It last a long, long time.

"White people are the punching bag now and anyone and everyone can legally be racist towards them without incident or consequence."

Really?? I beleive your perception is warped.

well hell, we invaded and occupied Afghanistan SOLEY on the reality that "thats where the terrorists trained"...

so i think it's more than fair to invade, occupy and root out the racists in florida...

if thats where the new racist terrorists are training.

i mean, think if we had done that BEFORE the terrorists in afghanistan had crashed planes into our buildings?

all this is is premtive striking, we can thank BUSH for teaching us this great method of rooting out evil wherever it exists!

sure, no one likes the thought police...so keep your racists thoughts to just THOUGHTS

and not "planning terrorist activities" even if they are ultimately just chicken @!$%#s and blowhards and never have ANY intention of carrying out their "plans".

why make them then?

Polar - Who's whining here? If you'd really like to discuss what type of person whines the most, we can do that. That was far from my point though.

My point is, every ethnicity should be shown respect, period.

You shouldn't change anything though, go back to watching your reality TV shows and reading your internet blogs.

But i'm the warped one.. People of this generation are warped, not me.

You can see from the profound stupidity of racist comments here why the US has so many unsolved problems.

Skeeter sorry to bust your bubble

I am gay, I do not now, nor do I ever expect to have a wife.

I also would never ever own a gun

I could never shoot anything, much less my spouse

Joey
You base your state record on one person that became a president??? I base it on the track record of its political policies. BTW my family has lived in Cali for over 20 years.

My point to my post was the narrow minded accusations of these peoples political party affiliation. They formed in one of the most liberal, Democratic state in the country.

Let me guess, tea baggers.

I am so ashamed of what MOST of America has become. There's not a damn thing wrong with being white & proud. For those of you out there on your soapbox/high horse about racists being poor white trash with a low IQ... I pull in about $50K/yr with a 121 IQ. Well, you know what?? There's a reason stereotypes exist! ALL of the minorities I've encountered (enough) have proven them all true. If some of you "equality, bleeding heart" people would open your eyes & go back to your WHITE ROOTS, all of these things I'm saying, you will see are true. I questioned why my family felt & acted the way they did when it came to racism, but the older I got, the more observations I made on my own. Guess what ... they were spot on.

Those people did NOTHING wrong ... except have an idea. What's wrong with a lot of people on here?

Doesn't anyone leave their house? Walk down the street? Shop? Notice how people behave & see that they think it's okay, or they're entitled. Which is complete BS!! They behave like f*cking animals! It's digusting! All of you other whites who support & defend their antics, MAKE ME SICK! I hope you realize (but I know you won't) that they laugh at all of you. You are all just "stupid crackers" to them!

Uhhhhhhm these "people" were planning terrorist plots. You would rather we let terrorists actually commit their crimes before arresting them? LMFAO. Look at all the right wingers supporting the terrorists now.

Lee...Did Jefferson Davis ride his horse bare-assed? Heads not tightly screwed on have a tendency to scramble brains.

More comical is this picture: These same faces 30 years from now (if they manage to live that long)...old relics of white supremacy from good ole DogPatch USA..teaching their kids and grandkids the finer points of hatefulness. And we wonder where the rabid extremists come from?

It's funny when racial supremists start spouting off about a race war. Bar fight, maybe. This small group of meth heads with neck tatoos can only start a war in their own very limited minds.

Republicans wiil no doubt try to DEFLECT blame!!

Republicans wiil no doubt try to DEFLECT blame!!

Spouting that crap just puts you on the same level as the idiots in this article. We (Republicans), or at least the normal ones, don't think like that. Actually, SpeakerGeek's comment is a pretty good approximation of our opinions as well.

Sounds like the leader calls for all of these attacks, but they never go through with them.

All of these individuals would have been killed or put to work by Hitler, because they don't look blond and blue-eyed enough...some look shady in terms of DNA.

ewent,

"And we wonder where the rabid extremists come from?"

It isn't just white racists but you seem to want to or need to ignore the fact that there really are rabid black extremists. Why?

scooter,

And how is your comment revelant?

@!$%#ing florida, The south is so full of lunatics.

@!$%#ing florida, The south is so full of lunatics

Hey, robiscoole, That's because they all moved here from someplace up north!!

Definitely...if this is what represents me, no thanks. I'm as white as they come...I don't care what color, religion, or sexual orientation you are, or whatever PLANET you come from....racism is for dumbasses.

There is NO reason why we can't be more tolerable of each other.

They even look like a lineup of losers, tattoos on the forehead, tats on the front of the neck and unfortunately the young boy with tats on his cheek bones...they were/are all headed for nowhere.

Gross people... ugly and mean! Sickos!

Nice to see young people getting together. Put down those video games and enjoy the outdoors.

Yeppp... Darn tootin' good to see this bunch in custody. None of them look very bright. They could be living proof of Forest Gump's observation back in 1994 – “Stupid is as stupid does.”

Upon their conviction, it would probably be a good thing to remove them from the gene pool for as long as possible.

Just wanted to say That I am proud of most of the comments being made on this post, nice to see people taking up for each other for a change, no matter what color they are.

Good freaking gosh. There's white racism going down and people automatically think that only white republicans can be racist? That's the biggest piece of ignorance I have ever read.

I live in a predominantly repub area and I know very few racists. But I'll tell you what, in my travels I've met blacks who are racist, Native Americans who are racist, Asians who are racist, etc etc. Racism exists in all races. To limit it to one race or one political party is to join in on the discrimination yourself. Perhaps people don't remember that it was a Republican president who abolished slavery and went to war with the south on it.

Just to clarify, I'm not Rep and I'm not a Dem either. Issue voter, here. I could care less about the party line. I'm willing to admit when someone has better ideas about something.

it's floriduh...duh...figured it out yet...home of the namby pamby...baby moma and tweaker von meth the third...

Well if this brood of bottom feeding neanderthals is the "hope" of the white race, the white race is doomed...

Liz - that was before the party platforms switched. Google "southern strategy"

hell, by todays republican standards...Reagan would be a flaming liberal.

Want a race war, be very careful about what you wish for, it will not be lengthy. 13% vs. 87% does not make for a long drawn out war. Why is it that black racism is accepted and white racism condemned. Is it just a given that its ok for blacks to be racists because of sins of the past. For the last 30 years we've been conditioned to believe that its ok for blacks to hate whites because of slavery, and every time blacks scream racism whites should cower and give them whatever they want. These guys dont look like they are willing to cower.

Rene is correct, this has nothing to do with Republicans...while I do not subscribe to much of the Republican Agenda--I do know most Republicans are not white supremacists.

The pigs in the article are not even human as far as I can tell

If they were of a party, it would be the Nazis

When I see these "supremacists," I always have the same thought. If these people represent the pinacle of the human race, we're doomed to extinction.

lmao that was a good one hahahaha

Nah...This is just the Second Coming of the Neanderthals...roflmao.

What was the first coming? The Black Panthers?

Suprised you are questioning yourself? ha ha

it always surprises me that the majority of white supremisists do not meet their own criteria for being "white"...most of them are a mix of races...I understand they have limited mental resources but you would think eventually one of them would stop to consider that they do not represent the very "race standard" that they profess to promote...but obviously "stupid is as stupid does"!

"Supremisists" how did they get that attachment? Doesn't even look like they could get a job at a car wash. I don't think I'll go to Florida for a while. Just what we need - "new" black panthers and white supremists talk about a tourist magnet for Florida.

That's pretty good. How can you tell? Is it their skin color?

Industrial Strength = Industrial Strength moron

FOr the nitwits who equate black and white racism as equal - let me remind you that white people enslaved black people for threee hundred years (until they got their free labor forc taken away) not vice versa - to ignore this is akin to thinking the water in my pond has nothing to do with the fact that it rained last year. =Alll you white geniuses got that?

You sound racist to me!

Bottom line is No One is a slave PERIOD! You may get away with evil for awhile but it will never stay that way. People are making there own graves early by worrying and retaliation so UNHEALTHY!

The Black Panthers, Nation Of Islam, Rev Wright, have NEVER committed an act of violence on ANY white person, because they were white. But the KKK has, the Neo Nazi's have, the Aryian nation has. Indus strenth you don't have a clue about the racial climate that 400 years of white supremacy has created in America!

The first permanent black slave in America (USA) was owned by a black man. A black man sued in court that his slave should be permanent and he won. Also, many slave traders were black & Hispanic. It was not uncommon for one African tribe to capture another tribe and sell them to the slave traders. Although there were white slave owners in North America, the majority of slave owners in South American were Hispanic. I would say multiple groups were responsible for slavery. Also, no one in my family ever owned a slave. So don't group in all white people as "we".

AL , well said. Capturing nations all have a history of slavery. Slavery is wrong. To focus on a three hundred year span in only one nation cheapens the fight. As for Faella , did he research his own name for Italian "immigrants"? I think not. As for slavery , we , in the 99% are slaves. The 1% has devalued or dollar to the point of being almost useless. How many of you "slave" everyday to make ends meet?Slavery is a way of thinking also. It embodies a feeling of hopelssness leading to a feeling of uselessness , lack of empowerment and frustration. The 1% has done this to us. We are getting our power back. As for these " Supremacist" groups. Supreme is fanciful thinking. They are not "supreme" they are inferior. The only group I need to be a member of is the human race.

The N word. Now, what word just popped into your mind? See how well that idea of not saying "the word" actually worked? You said it, didn't you?

What is the difference between Racist and Racial?

Ronald Hussein Regan....so now you know what it is like to have alzheimers, speaking incoherently like you do.

I'm not really sure a crime was committed though. But, what the hell, they're a bunch of ugly racists, right? We don't need evidence or any of that junk, after all, they are "white supremacists"!!!

Honestly, they sound like a bunch of idiots that talk big and play militia on their own property. Yeah - great job police officer for...I don't know, arresting people nobody likes regardless if they really broke any laws.

But hey - maybe the police will come up with something more then what they appear to have (judging from this article).

@skydiver - yep they did it in this case. Why not the case of a black mob jumping a white man and woman? So far after almost a month they've only arrested one minor. There were lots of witnesses to the crime.

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“This investigation is a result of our ongoing partnership with local law enforcement and federal agencies in a concentrated effort to stamp out hate crime in our community,” Ninth Circuit State Attorney Lawson Lamar said in a statement Tuesday.

His office said he would not comment further on the case because the investigation is ongoing.

I guess reading comprehension is not one of your best skills. Don't?

everyone-5471391

Did you even read the article?

Don in MO

What is your point?

Sedition

In law, sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority to tend toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interests of sedition.

Typically, sedition is considered a subversive act, and the overt acts that may be prosecutable under sedition laws vary from one legal code to another. Where the history of these legal codes has been traced, there is also a record of the change in the definition of the elements constituting sedition at certain points in history. This overview has served to develop a sociological definition of sedition as well, within the study of state persecution.

The difference between sedition and treason consists primarily in the subjective ultimate object of the violation to the public peace. Sedition does not consist of levying war against a government nor of adhering to its enemies, giving enemies aid, and giving enemies comfort. Nor does it consist, in most representative democracies, of peaceful protest against a government, nor of attempting to change the government by democratic means (such as direct democracy or constitutional convention).

Sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Treason is the violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or state, giving aid to enemies, or levying war against one's state. Sedition is encouraging one's fellow citizens to rebel against their state, whereas treason is actually betraying one's country by aiding and abetting another state. Sedition laws somewhat equate to terrorism and public order laws.

is a crime and is illegal. It also is considered terrorism and covered many laws and under the Patriot Act offenses which can get those arrested for sedition indefinite jail time without respresentation or court time and result in the stripping of their US citizenship with deportation. The Patriot Act and its additional legislature that enhances it doesnt care if you are 10th generation American, born and bred here ... you can still be stripped of your US citizenship and be removed from US soil.

I do not know how they decide where you will be deported to ... most likely where your original immigrant ancestor immgrated to the US from ... which can make it interesting since so many Americans have ancestors from different originating countries. Will the paternal ancestry superced the maternal? or vice versa.

In any event, our country can now detain them without a trial or an attorney indefintely before kicking them out of the country, stripped of their US citizenship for seditious acts that can lead to treason if they do take action and initiate a white supremist rebellion against the USA's sovereignty.

Yoweee! RECYCLED HOPE;

A fine display of legal knowledge!

Is this aimed at white racists? Any black who supports seperate black culture? Republicans in general? One size fits all.

It's almost guaranteed that if any black person or group of blacks commit any crimes(and are identified), they will be arrested and tried(and many times given harsher sentences).

Remember the days(not that long ago) when innocent blacks were arrested and railroaded/convicted because they "fit the description"(sometimes with no solid evidence)?

And no, I'm not black.

Why isn't news? Had they been of darker skin or political left. They would be front page news.

Recycled Hope said:

The Patriot Act and its additional legislature that enhances it doesnt care if you are 10th generation American, born and bred here ... you can still be stripped of your US citizenship and be removed from US soil.

There is a piece of upcoming legislation called the Enemy Expatriation Act

Basically what his says is that any USC, whether native born or naturalized, can have citizenship stripped or revoked if:

1. They have obtained naturalization in a foreign state after turning 18
2. They have taken oath/declaration of allegiance in a foreign state after turning 18
3. They have entered/are entering/serving in armed forces of foreign state
4. Entering/serving in armed forces of another state if engaged in hostilities toward the US
5. Entering/serving/performing duties under the government of a foreign state after age 18 if person acquired nationality in that state
6. Entering/serving/performing duties under the government of a foreign state after age 18 if person acquired nationality in that state and an oath/declaration is required for such activity
7. Making a formal spoken/written renunciation of us citizenship before a US government entity;
8. Committing an act of treason against the US government
9. Acting to overthrow the government of the US

10. Bearing arms against the government of the US

11. Inciting/assisting/set in action/supports rebellion against the Government of the US

12. Willfully advocating the overthrow of the US Government

13. Create/Print/Disseminate literature advocating the overthrow of the US Government

14. Organizing/starting/becoming a member of any organization that advocates overthrow of the US Government

15. Any conspiracy between 2 or more persons to overthrow the government of the US, to hinder execution of US law, or seize/take/possess US Government property

Zippy pinhead said:

Yoweee! RECYCLED HOPE;

A fine display of legal knowledge!

Is this aimed at white racists? Any black who supports seperate black culture? Republicans in general? One size fits all.

No, it's aimed at anyone who Homeland Security considers a threat to national security and is engaged in what they consider domestic terrorism. Here's the list:

Alternative media

Anarchist extremism

Animal rights extremism

Anti-abortion extremism

Anti-immigration extremism

Anti-technology extremism

Aryan prison gangs

Black bloc

Black nationalism

Black power

Black separatism

Christian Identity movement

Cuban independence extremism

Decentralized terror movement

Denial-of-service attacks

Direct action (including lawful acts of civil disobedience)

Environmental extremism

Ethnic extremism

Extremist groups

Green anarchism

Hacktivism (technology-enabled social/political activism)

Hate groups

Jewish extremism

Leaderless resistance

Left-wing extremism

Lone terrorists

Mexican separatists

Militia Movements (including conspiracy theorists)

Neo-Nazis

Patriot Movement

Phineas Priesthood

Primary targeting(directly supporting/funding terrorists)

Puerto Rican independence extremists

Radical Norse mysticism practitioners (Odinists)

Racialists

Right-wing extremists

Single-issue/multiple issue extremist groups

Skinheads whose ‘dress may include shaved head/short hair, jeans, thin suspenders, combat boots or Doc Martens and a bomber jacket’

Sovereign citizen movement

Tax resistance movement

Violent anti-war extremism

Violent religious sects (includes those who stockpile food and weapons)

White Nationalists

White Power advocates

White Supremacists

Jeeez here we go....all the bigots and closet racists are coming around to do their thing...spread their @!$%#.

Just read the article and take it for what it is...they caught some racist scumbags before they could do anything worse.

Enough of the militants who hate the law...who hate the government...who hat the media because they see it as being unfair in it's reporting. It's not a conspiracy.

The fact that there's an anti-racist skinhead group (the REDS referenced further down in the article) is news to me.

Recycled Hope said:

I do not know how they decide where you will be deported to ... most likely where your original immigrant ancestor immgrated to the US from ... which can make it interesting since so many Americans have ancestors from different originating countries. Will the paternal ancestry superced the maternal? or vice versa.

In any event, our country can now detain them without a trial or an attorney indefintely before kicking them out of the country, stripped of their US citizenship for seditious acts that can lead to treason if they do take action and initiate a white supremist rebellion against the USA's sovereignty.

Those who had prior citizenship in another country would likely be deported back there, or if they were born in another country could be deported there. However, for anyone arrested who is a US citizen born and raised and has no other country to go to, it's supposed to be military detention until the War On Terror is over.

However that's if they follow deportation laws, which is questionable given their current track record for deporting American citizens to countries they have never seen, been in, or speak the language of:

Pedro Guzman, a mentally disabled man born and raised in Southern California, was deported in 2007 to Mexico, where he survived by eating out of garbage cans for three months while his frantic mother searched for him.

Lack of proper training of immigration inspectors resulted in their mistaken conclusion that Sharon McKnight’s passport was fraudulent. McKnight spent eight days in Jamaica before returning to New York. While there, her luggage, containing all her money, was stolen. Airport workers contributed money so she could reach family members. Once there, her mother flew to Jamaica from New York to take her case to the US consulate in Kingston. With the help of Rep. Michael Forbes (D-NY), consulate officials determined that the passport and birth certificate, which immigration officials had declared fraudulent, were in fact real, and established McKnight’s US citizenship.

When Angela Boneva, a 34 year old, went to renew her passport in 2003, the State Department told her she was no longer a citizen. Boneva's father was born in Indiana, and the US consulate in Bulgaria gave her U.S. citizenship while she was growing up in Bulgaria in 1981. The State Department said that an employee at the consulate broke a rule that required her father to have lived in the U.S. for 10 years before she was born, the Tribune reported. Her father had only lived in the U.S. for six years before his parents moved to Bulgaria.

Mark Lyttle, a U.S. citizen of Puerto Rican descent with mental disabilities who was wrongfully deported to Mexico in 2008. Lyttle’s entanglement with immigration authorities began when he was about to be released from a North Carolina jail where he was serving a short sentence for inappropriately touching a worker's backside in a halfway house that serves individuals with mental disorders. Despite having ample evidence that Lyttle was a U.S. citizen – including his social security number, the names of his parents, his sworn statements that he was born in the United States and criminal record checks – officials from the North Carolina Department of Correction referred him to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) as an undocumented immigrant whose country of birth was Mexico. Lyttle had never been to Mexico, shared no Mexican heritage, spoke no Spanish and did not claim to be from Mexico.

Ernesto Galarza, a New Jersey-born U.S. citizen of Puerto Rican descent was held illegally for three days in the Lehigh County Prison. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents ordered his detention, erroneously believing he was an undocumented immigrant from the Dominican Republic. Galarza’s Social Security card and Pennsylvania driver’s license were in his wallet at the time of his arrest and in the prison’s possession during his detention.

Thomas Warziniack was born in Minnesota and grew up in Georgia, but immigration authorities pronounced him an illegal immigrant from Russia. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has held Warziniack for weeks in an Arizona detention facility with the aim of deporting him to a country he's never seen. His jailers shrugged off Warziniack's claims that he was an American citizen, even though they could have retrieved his Minnesota birth certificate in minutes and even though a Colorado court had concluded that he was a U.S. citizen a year before it shipped him to Arizona.

Damn it Truth,,,you got it all wrong,,,they are not using "crack",,they can't afford that stuff,,,they use shake and bake meth,,AND,,if we keep supplying the ingredients to them,,,they will either poison themselves,,OR,,,blow themselves up.Honestly,,you have this pretty much correct.North Ga. is loaded with these groups,,,they rant and rave about how they are going to take back America,,BUT,,,if anyone on the street approaches them,,or corners them,,they run home to momma.But I'll be honest with you,,the ones I'm worried about,,,the ones that ARE going to start a "race war',,are the government officials,,that control a lot of these groups.What you see here are a bunch of flunkies,,if you read the article,,they have had to many of their own,,snipe the group,,become informants for the law,,they are nothing but a bunch of kids,,playing with guns,,,they really haven't broken any laws,,YET,,,but eventually,,,the little town officials are going to give them an order to attack,,,and one or two of them are going to be wired up enough to do it,,but you're right,,most of these people are scared to death,,oh yea,,,they go out on weekends,,and shoot up a bunch of dummies and targets,,,but when it comes down to the real deal,,like I said,,,they will run home to momma,,or,,snipe the group to the law enforcement.

It appears that their paranoia stems from their insecurity, which the use of crack may augment, and then manifest itself as "supremacy," the claim of being superior, but actually it is the feeling of insecurity oozing out of the skinheads. That's why they pick on blacks and minorities, which in their delusional minds they see as inferior. But they really are cowards. Thus the need to resort to the fabrication of all sorts of lies and name calling to justify their acts of violence. The danger about these groups does not lie in the actions of small minded skinheads, but in the evolment of Psychos like Hitler and Mussolini, who organized international killing machines. The cure for the skinheads and their kind, lies in having them become aware of how small their minds are.

Truth, Arthur, & Sebastian...

Ok, you can all kiss my lovely, WHITE, 121 IQ having a55! When the war comes you would be surprised how many SUPREME WHITES will come out of the woodwork to stand, and SO ENJOY making a difference! That WE need!! There's some CHANGE for ya!!!

Go get a nasty "bro-hoe" because any self-respecting white man would NEVER want that tainted skank again... EVER!!

I agree totally. These type of people are born in every generation and out of every circumstance. The police were right to do what they do, for whatever crimes they may have committed. These young people have no real reason to be racist except for what some old jail bird fresh out of prison tells thm.

Its the same thing that happens to hispanics, the young ones get their ideas from the older ones, usually job-less, jail-birds, who probably are racist after being in jail where the race war thrives. Like caged animals that form new family partnerships to defend from other animals.

At almost 30 I am older than all of the people in this article and I have lived in that part of Florida, my question is what has happened to these young pepole that was so bad that they would become racist?

What did the jews or blacks, do to them in roughly 25 yrs of life?

Did a black guy get a promotion over one them...

Oh I know a black guy hit on one of their girlfriends and insted of handeling it like a man, he started talking racist @!$%# to his buddies to get a laugh and cover his inability to manage his own life.

I know, one of the girls wanted to be a model/actress but the jews that run t.v. wouldnt allow it...

Maybe its just me, but I think this is a valid line of questioning.. My point is that there is a lot of pointless and mis-directed "racism" among young people these days.

*example* I dated a girl once and she was taught that blacks and whites did not date each other and the reason was becaues she this girl was a little baby..a group of kids were throwing rocks in the street, one of the rocks hit the front door of her parents house, when the mom saw the boys running away she "noticed" one of them was black...from that momment on, she had this racist attitude that black people were no good and no civilized enough to date there daughter. They then taught this to their daughter and her brother and all the children in the family, bringing up a generation of racist who really dont know why they are

paramilitary training is a felony?

Beowolf, so whats wrong with being a Tow Truck Driver or Bounty Hunter? Maybe you would like to rethink your superior attitude.

Tow truck drivers and Bounty Hunters, can actually make rel money these days in our nation and especially abroad, where American taxpayer dollars pay and have paid billions into doing just that...fighting and killing people in Iraq, Afghanistan and many other places across the nations where the USA is supporting dictatorships and presidential warlords, oligarchy and Monarchy regimes.

@wlee:

there is nothing wrong with being a bounty hunter, tow truck driver, sanitation worker, or even fast food worker. I respect all those who have integrity, and are humble.

If you enjoy your work and do it well, more power to you.

The problem is with those who are unhappy with their place in life, taking out their anger and frustrations on others(especially when it's only they holding themselves back). The ones who use race as an excuse or justification to blame others(and try to exalt themselves).

No one makes these types drop out of school, use drugs, blame others, and refuse to open a book and educate themselves. the majority of the time, they are responsible for their situation.

The difference is that these guys were arrested.

Have you read anything about the Black Panthers planning attacks?

The Black Panthers of the 1960s formed a group in opposition to the discrimination of African Americans. I believe that you are referring to the New Black Panther Party that the Southern Poverty Law Center has classified as a hate group. The "Old" group denounces the "New" Group.

So, to answer your question, the only apparent difference between the American Front and the New Black Panther Party is the ethnic composition of its members.

The United States has NEVER been comprised of just one ethnic group. The question I have is--why don't these group members just buy a lot of land and make their own all-white (or all-black or whatever!) nation somewhere? Why can't they set up their own constitution, government, and infrastructure? They can limit immigration into their country to whatever "race" or group they want.

It seems so simple to me. Separate. That's what I do from people I hate.

Good question. I guess my thought is the original black panthers were formed due to out-ward and public racism and hatred of the race.

Groups like this are created out of percieved threats toward the economic, or social fabric of a race, often engaged in the promotion or training for a "race war" or another "civil war"

So, anyone can correct me if I am wrong.

I think the phrase, "Conspiracy to Commit..." will appear in front of most of the charges. The article said there was a mole in the organization. Rather than wait until they actually killed someone, the police had sufficient evidence and made their move.

Clearly there is more to the story than MSN put in their article. When I lived in Florida, it seemed that the biggest blow to the states economy was lawsuits from bogus arrests, or arrests when the perps would get off for lack of evidence (or maybe I just heard about it more because I lived there). My guess would be that the state has learned from past mistakes and would have enough evidence to make a good arrest - even if it's not mentioned in the article. I could be wrong, but a lot of the news articles I read on MSN can't be taken as having 100% of the facts.

This seems bogus to YOU because you're not black or an immigrant? They are a terrorist group, if given the chance they would have killed indiscriminantly.

Bogus arrests? Hmmm, talk about selfcentered dillusional and unpatriotic. Y'all would have waited until they mounted an attack and finally killed a few people and maybe even some of you white folks (I'm white and appalled by the racist scum in this country like cockroaches).

These people are NAZIS and that's for real you dumb asses and they couldn't be more antithetical to American democracy and Christianity! So the racists posting here support Nazism while pretending to be god fearing! Very funny but also appalling and disgusting. If you think these people are harmless patriots then you're idiots. Sorry there is no other word for it.

Take a look at them, there isn't a one them that has a soul behind those eyes, they're dead morally and spiritually. Just what is so supreme about these white folk? Not a damned thing except they had an arsenal of weapons.

I think a lot you need to go back to church for exorcisms. By the way, Zimmerman is still a P.O.S. coward who shot an unarmed teenager there will never be an excuse for that other than Zimmerman and this group of pigs are racist cowards.

I didn't know that training for combat was illegal. That is what paramilitary training is, (done right) though planning to comit a crime is against the law. Obviously the mole gathered enough evidence of criminal intent to warrent the arrest of these individuals. Also unless you have a special permit, it is a crime to own or use an assault weapon, especially if said weapon is full automatic. The law enforcment agencies can not wait till these punks actually kill someone to act. They have an obligation to arrest anyone who is guilty of consperousy to comit a crime. The police were just doing their job, so lay off them! Let the courts decide if these "people" are guilty or not. Just don't try them in the court of public opinion.

Dave I was with you up until the Zimmerman part. I don't know the man and neither do you. Neither of us knows the whole story. Why don't we just let the court sort it out. Your opinion is based on nothing but the news media, not exactly a pillar of society.

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"Evidence of prejudices while committing those crimes...well duh, they are a hate group. But when did it become illegal to hate for no good reason?"

September 11, 2001 was when it became illegal to hate and to use that hate to plan violent crimes, large and small. It was built on the event of April 19, 1995, when a truck bomb brought down half a building killing and injuring a lot of people.

In the US any person can hate all they want to, it's their problem and it will waste their life, but no one is allowed now to turn that hate into violence against those they precieve to have caused them somekind of harm.

The New Black Panthers are no better than these guys are and are also being watched of that you can be sure and if they start stockpiling weapons and actually planning attacks they will be arrested too. The difference is you can SAY and THINK anything you want, that is a constitutional right in the US. You can no plan violence, that is conspiracy to committ violence, and now it is conspiracy to committ violence for the reasons of hate and comes under the anti-terrorists acts. Patriot Act, heard of it? It's not just about the TSA and what library books you checked out. It also gives the Government the power and right to stop groups like this.

I agreee, there are a lot of haters out there. Are they going to put them all in jail because they dislike someone or some group? Get real! Why not put the black panther's in jail who were screaming about a race war. I don't think that has happen yet! "O" they did arrest one on having a gun by a convicted felon Whohoo! Bunch BS

Id doesnt seem like we've heard much about the two reporters in Virginia who were attacked and beaten by a mob of blacks, as usual, the media will do anything to keep from getting the blacks riled up.

You can discuss, prepare and threaten all you like. Make an attempt and you go to jail. We'll have to see what comes from the trial.

The people who issued the "bounty" for Zimmerman WERE ARRESTED. Google is your friend, but hey, who expects due diligence when we can spout ignorance instead?

Also? The "New" Black Panther Party (a very small group of morons who put out that bounty) and the "Old" Black Panther Party? Not the same thing. The surviving "old" guys think the "new" guys are morons.

Heaven forbid somebody knows what they are talking about right? lol

Exactly JohnnyyAAApades!! Maybe its time for you to stop posting.

Yeah johnny of course people on here know what they're talking about or else they wouldn't post it on here, and so with that I'll put my two cents in. WHY!?..WHY!?..are these white supremest women always fat and ugly seldom do I ever see a hot looking white supremest woman can some ONE explain WHY.!!!!

Jmacq ? Who morons? Now you want to tell people how to do there job? Sounds like a McDonalds worker to me.

Truth, the truth is that most of the guns held in this country are owned by white people with CCWs and very well armed. You'd better look at the number of gun permits and who they were issued to. These guys are hunters and protectors and I would dare you to try to cross onto a good old boys property. I guarantee you'd be met with the barrel of a gun. These guys hunt and hunt often and know how to use their weapons. They don't hold their pistols sideways. In some southern states, purple paint on a tree means you can be legally killed just for crossing the tree line. I grew up in LA and now live in the south. I don't screw with these country boys old or young.

I was raised in the east but spent alot of time in the south due to being in the military. These "good ole boys" come in white and black. They are country boys who hunt, fish and yes are very good with their weapons (I do not refer to them as guns usually). They just want to be left alone on their land, to raise their families..They couldnt give two flying @!$%#s about all this other stuff. I have met some who wouldnt prefer to be around a bunch of minorites but I met a kid from the south who had never even had a friend who was not white.

I dont want people to lump these guys in with radical terriorist group who seek to start a civil race war and destroy OUR OWN COUNTRY!!!! that goes for any group formed by any race.

these guys are like something you see out of a horror film.

I couldn't say it any better[zardoz],really ,they should speak for their selves,keep my white a**out of it.

Agreed, however there is no such thing as the "white race." There is only one race and that is the human race.

@Hoodie-2290570; God did create different Hue's within the human race

I hope that they do not end up giving their race any kind of name, even thou they already have but these kids could have been anything regardless of their beliefs ya know? They just chose the wrong way to express themselves, a very dangerous boarderline cult, mass murder type of way. Glad they were stopped

I'm all for locking up these trash bags. But let's make it a two way street to really help this country.

In Lafayette, La on May 5, 2012, in front of quite a few people and in a location that caters to the local college, ULL; a young white girl and young white male, both around 22 years of age were jumped by 10 black men and beaten so badly they are both in the hospital and undergoing their 2nd and 3rd surgeries today. Fractured skulls, crushed nasal cavities, broken jaws, teeth, etc...

Guess what: No Sharpton, no Jackson, no signs of protest, no hoodies, no nothing. Not even a mention on the local news. This is the 4th time in two months young white college kids were beaten so badly by young black male they were not only hospitalized, they now have to skip their next semester of classes. Not one mention.

I don't care if you're black or white; reverse these beatings and you tell me if 10 white males jumped a young black couple and beat them so badly they need multiple surgeries and are now missing a semester in college; what would happen.

It would be a media circus.

I agree. The media is just as responsible as these genetic mutants in trying to propel a race war. They ignore black on white crime. They hype these stories to generate hatred amongst the races.

And you idiot liberals dont think the Black Panthers are preparing for a race war? And practicing paramilitary and explosive techniques or shooting at white dummy heads while yelling out f*ck you white Crackers! Why didn't Erick Holders investigators go after the Panthers when they were harassing white voters in the 2008 election or when the panters put a 10,000 dollar bounty on George Zimmerman. I'm tired and everyone else is tired of the white double standard. I think there is a good chance of a race war. Blacks are ignorant to themselves being the racists in America and whites are tired of getting the blame. The obama administration is pathetic.

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You can't site the few instances of reverse discrimination to justify your argument.

The history and totality of racism and violence against non-whites by whites in our country far out weigh the reverse. I'm actually amazed at how few instances of retribution against whites there is and has been by non-whites.

I, as a "white" (Anglo-type) person, don't know if I'd have as much patience and restraint. I like to think I would.

I am sorry, what?!! "We whites started it so we need to end it."? We started what? Do you mean slavery? Slavery was around long before white folks had the wherewithal to take slaves.

Yes we white people had slaves in the US, but so did some Blacks. Do you think those slaves were fond of White people, or do you suppose they, I don't know, perhaps HATED their owners?

Most white people never hated black people, they just ignorantly thought they were not equal, and did not want to mix with them. It has always been only a minority that actually "hated" blacks.

Please note it is not White people who march and riot at the perceived insult to one of their own by some one of the “other” race.

Can any of you name a “white leader” who hate blacks as much as Jesse and Al hate whites?

would it be okay to slave and shackle you? and throw scraps to you to eat or to sale your child? that's right blame jesse, obama, the rain the whiskey,the four horsemen,msn or whomever just because someone speaks up about injustice but you wouldn't trade with any slave. many of us hate what our forefathers done and it was horrible. but some as yourself. the true feeling's come out. i hope you don't have a business. because you are probaly a crook that will rip off your own friends to get rich. because you are definitely a racist and you probably know it. i just hope you go to church to save yourself. now can you help your friends that just went to jail?

Well since some blacks had some slaves I guess we had it all wrong all this time. Thanks for clearing that up for us...

By the way, those blacks that held slaves still weren't full citizens, still couldn't vote, still were shunned and excluded from the full enjoyment of civil American society, could have any of the few rights they did enjoy (*LAUGH* like that was a long list) revoked in an instant arbitrarily by an electorate or law official that had no cultural sympathy for them, and was wholly barred institutionally from receiving the same levels of governmental largess afforded Western-European origined Americans.

And that still never even addresses the other bits of white colonialism throughout the rest of the world like the Asian Pacific, South America and the Middle East.

BTW, when was the last time that whites who weren't part of some already marginalized group rioted en masse for anything socially noble in this country?

(Sorry, hockey games, NCAA Basketball championships, and really any event involving cheerleaders, beer bongs, and calling a frat bro to bail you out don't count.)

And I can name several "white leaders" who hate blacks severel (though I cant accept your statement's premise that Al or Jessie hates whites without you establishing the basis of that claim); To start I can say with certainty that not only does Newt Gingrich and Pat Buchanan hate black people, they are gleefully unapologetic about it. Who tells kids to forgo school to learn the janitorial sciences so they can experience what its like to work? There's more poor lazy-azzed white kids in this country than black kids TOTAL so get outta here with that pandering bullshyt already, Child's Play Chuckie...gesh!

Ciewywtb, so when is rioting noble? The Egyptians non white held the Jews non white as slaves, Africans held other Africans as slaves American Indians held other Indians as slaves, slavery still goes on in 2012 but what the heck it's the whites. We will never get past racism until we can accept the fact that none of us chose what color we were born, maybe we should all be blind, that way we would have to depend on each other

I agree with you- and not just because i am native american and i know of the genocides comitted not only on my people but on the black people as well. to add insult to injury now the people who comitted these genocides...and their young do not even properly absorb the blood that is already been dripping. You all can say it doesnt matter but my great great grandma is upon this earth and her eyes witnessed more than half of you will comprehend.

another thing...why are we always bringing up trayvon and lest you all forget it was trayvons mother who asked sharpton to help them, to seek justice for her son. Sharpton marched with MLK dont expect him to cower down to anyone. Insulting the family that just had their son murdered....wow. Empathy is it not being taught in the christian home and church now??? seems that anyone sticking up for hate is just that hate ful btw alot of pple including some tribes and blacks did have slaves,however two evils still equal evil......... we will fall divided this way

Africans sold their own people to the rest of the world. It's not the fault of the white people. The problem is all white people being blamed for that and for dumb ass white people like them thinking they're special, superior. These people need to read The Bible. They're all going to hell for having all this hate in their hearts for their brothers and sisters.

Egyptians were black and had jewish and whites as slaves for 1000 years. The Egypt of today has mostly arabs living there because it was taken over by them when they fell a few thousand years ago.