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Subscribe to RSSThe owner says he couldn't believe his pit bull killed his father. KOB's Jill Galus reports.
In the past week, Gavin Wright has lost two members of his household: Clifford, his father; then Achilles, the pit bull he had raised since puppyhood.
Last Thursday, Achilles, a dark brown pit bull with a streak of white fur running down his chest, attacked and killed Wright's father.
"I just got home from work. I live with my father. I take care of him. He's there on the front porch. It looks like my dog got him, for whatever reason. I don't f***ing know what happened!" Wright, 27, screamed to a 911 operator.
In tapes obtained by NBC affiliate KOB.com, Wright becomes increasingly frantic as he describes his 74-year-old dad.
“They can't save him, dude,” Wright tells the dispatcher. “He's got a hole, there's blood! He's gone, dude! My dad is torn up with flies on him."
More on the dog mauling 911 call from KOB.com
Police told msnbc.com an ambulance was dispatched to the Wright residence, but Clifford Wright wasn't able to be revived. Police also took Achilles, who vets estimated to be about 4 years old, into quarantine. They allowed Wright to keep the three other dogs he has as pets at home.
A couple days later, while Santa Fe animal control officers evaluated Achilles, a preliminary medical examiner's report was released on Clifford Wright.
"The elder Wright was bitten by a single dog and he succumbed to his injuries because of those bites," Santa Fe public information officer Lt. Louis Carlos told msnbc.com. "He did not have a medical condition that was a factor in his demise. People were speculating that he might have had a heart attack, or a seizure beforehand, but none of that was true."
Evidence found at the scene on Achilles also confirmed he, not the other dogs, had mauled Clifford, Carlos said. With no witnesses, it's unclear what provoked the dog, who isn't neutered, to suddenly attack.
Santa Fe police have been called to Wright's home before about his dogs: once in 2005, when another dog bit Clifford, and once in 2011, when a female pit bull was reported running at large.
Gavin Wright, who Carlos described as "visibly upset" and shocked, could not be reached by msnbc.com. On Friday, Santa Fe police explained to Wright what his options for Achilles were. He could keep him and risk the community's safety, with the knowledge that police would actively seek to have Achilles taken into custody and ultimately euthanized, or he could say goodbye to Achilles now. If he chose the latter, all citations would be forgiven.
"Our position was not to add to the stressors to him and his family," Carlos said. "That was why we agreed to sit down and talk with him ... and let him decide which route he was going to take."
Wright took the weekend to think it over. Achilles hadn't lashed out again since he was in quarantine, but the Santa Fe police department described his demeanor as "concerning" and "freaky": He didn't wag his tail when experts came in to inspect him, Carlos said, and he wouldn't prick his ears up.
"He would just stare. He wouldn't even turn his head. He would just move his eyes," Carlos said.
Putting Achilles down
On Tuesday, Wright made his decision to euthanize Achilles.
"What was a turning point for Gavin was when I explained the injuries his father sustained, and the manner in which he was killed," Carlos said. "After that, he agreed to surrender the dog."
Wright was allowed to go see -- but not touch -- Achilles one final time. He spoke his last words to Achilles, cage bars separating them, on Tuesday immediately after he had decided to euthanize him, Carlos said. He chose to cremate Achilles and keep his ashes.
"His words to me were 'This is it, it's over,'" Carlos told msnbc.com. "He's finding closure on all this. He's thanked me several times. He was a little somber after saying his goodbye."
Pit bulls are often connected with aggression: Earlier this week, family pit bulls in California mauled two toddlers, and in Maryland, pit bulls were recently ruled "inherently dangerous." Nonetheless, Mary Martin executive director of the Santa Fe animal shelter, believes it wasn't likely that Achilles' situation could have had had a different outcome, and she said there are many misconceptions about the breed.
"One of the things the ASPCA has covered in research is we label dogs pit bulls, and we're wrong 50 percent of the time. What we're finding out is a lot of them have none of the gene markers for what we label a pit bull or pit bull mix, but instead they might have mastiffs or another breed in them," she said.
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Even Achilles may not have been a pit bull and may have just have just been labeled one based on a vet's guess. Many in the shelter thought he could have had American Mastiff genes, she said. His history isn't known, nor is his medical state.
"There could be a brain tumor, some type of reason for why this animal behaved like he did," Martin said. "We don't know how he was managed in his home, if there was any emotional trauma -- it didn't look like it [though]."
But regardless of the cause of aggression, ending the animal's life isn't always the answer for a pet, she said.
"We have seen a serious increase in the amount of professionalism in behavior training, dog trainers who are really knowledgeable at recognizing and managing aggression. Consider a certified pet dog trainer just as you would a veterinarian," she said. "One of the things that my director of behavior taught me here is behavior is behavior, and it can change. We can quit smoking. We can lose weight. Almost every aberrant behavior can be changed or controlled, especially if we get a chance to intervene early."
Of the 6,000 animals that are housed in the Santa Fe animal shelter, many have become adoptable, loving pets thanks to behavioral training.
"When your dog is displaying things you don't like, find a reputable, certified dog trainer in your community, because there are things you can do. We've seen true magic in our shelter because of our behavior trainers."
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But pit bulls are usually such sweet dogs...
They will be banned soon from most States...
You'd like to think so but you are sadly mistaken. I swear the day a bill comes to outlaw pit bulls there will be at least 2 million signatures on a petition to cancel that. And where they are already banned or were banned had no effect. The shelters in those areas were still turning over the same numbers as if nothing changed. Believe that!!!
This dog doesn't play nice with his Dad. Maybe he should have kept the dog, retrained it, and tried it out on his Mom, or maybe the kids . . . .
So sad for the young man and his family. What I found interesting is the parts of the article that explained that many dogs are mis-identified as pit bulls but are really other breeds. All dogs have the capability of aggression, it is training that makes the difference. I have met many nice Pits and I have met some I would not trust any further than I could throw them. Unfortunately many people own them who shouldn't.
Like a sex offender registry, there should be a pit bull registry. I'd like to know if my kids lives are in danger from these hardass status symbols.
It seems we put more thoughts into applying the death penalty to a killer dog than to a human being. How sad!
And cue the "Pits aren't bad, it's just that people don;t know how to raise them properly" crowd. I wonder if they'll ever get it...
Why don't people neuter their dogs? It seems like almost every time it's a household with multiple unfixed animals.
The owner sounds just like all the typical, "it's not the breed" types, who are oblivious that just because their dog has never attacked, it does not mean the breed is not dangerous nevertheless. This dog does not sound like it was mistreated at all.
If you don't see a pit in your area then chances are there isn't one. A dog isn't as hard to recognize as a sex offender. A pit may look like a lab or boxer..especially if it is not fully grown.
The old man did something to this pit I'm telling you. Or maybe they adopted it from the shelter and never got him rehabilitated. If they had this dog since it was a pup things would have been different I'm telling you. Pleeeeeeeeease listen to me. Get it through your thick skull!
Just to share with all of the people who either dont pay homeowner's insurance or dont read the contract, a lot of major insurance companies are now listing several breeds of dogs that will prevent them from insuring your house. Among the ones on my allstate plan were pit bulls, german shepards (sp), dobies and then exotic's like wolves.
Face it, when the inusance companies deny to take your money for coverage because of a dog breed then that breed is a hazard.
My own insurance company had no problem insuring me with the pit bull but they refused me a policy because of my Great Danes. You know, the "gentle giants". I found another company who sent out evaluators to evaluate the specific dogs in question before writing a policy rather than applying some blanket clause based on breed.
This is the THIRD report of pit bull attacks this week....the other two were pit bull attacks on CHILDREN.
Ok....where are the pit bull lovers ?
Kevin C-752389 -
Try to keep up, Mary Martin, the executive director of the Santa Fe animal shelter, said that. The owner name is Wright.
Kevin C-752389 -
Try to keep up, Mary Martin, the executive director of the Santa Fe animal shelter, said that. Wright is the name of the owner.
No idea why the double post or why it won't let me delete one.... :banghead:
I can see the sarcasm dripping off the letters.
Guess you missed the story about the pit bull that saved its owner that passed out on the railroad tracks today.
Guess you also did not read the entire article where they weren't even sure the dog was a pit bull.
JS, Baltimore - Sorry about the insurance company and your Great Danes. They are normally good dogs, but we had a neighbor who let his run around loose. Needless to say, it got hit by a car.
I hear over and over that it's not the dog or breed, it's the lack of proper training. I'm sure the mother of the 2-year-old that got maimed yesterday thought she didn't need special training as the dog was always gentle. The parents of that child didn't seem to be bad people and it sounded like the dog was gentle (until it chewed on their daughter).
Are you saying ALL pit bulls need special training? If not, which ones? Do all dogs need special training?
It is right that this dog should be put down,not because it is or isn't a pit bull but because it is dangerous and for what it has done. There should be some study made of the (dead) dog-its genes,does it have a brain tumor or abnormality? Has it been bred? (Are the puppies statistically more apt to be dangerous than normal?)
I wonder if this owner has been involved in dog problems with different dogs before?
There is a type of owner who delights in the power of his dangerous dog just as if it were a large caliber machine gun or a super lethal poisonous snake. (I think there are also people who have legitimate reasons for keeping reptiles/amphibians.) I think some dog breeds have been damaged by these owners and their activities at breeding the dogs.
Kris, why apologize for these vicious creatures? Did you create the breed? Are you a Pit Bull? People that care about animals more than human life are traitors to mankind.
"Wright was allowed to go see -- but not touch -- Achilles one final time. He spoke his last words to Achilles, cage bars separating them, on Tuesday immediately after he had decided to euthanize him, Carlos said. He chose to cremate Achilles and keep his ashes."
How pathetic. This monster killed his Dad and he has one last romantic moment with it. What a freak.
"But regardless of the cause of aggression, ending the animal's life isn't always the answer for a pet, she said.
"We have seen a serious increase in the amount of professionalism in behavior training, dog trainers who are really knowledgeable at recognizing and managing aggression. Consider a certified pet dog trainer just as you would a veterinarian," she said. "One of the things that my director of behavior taught me here is behavior is behavior, and it can change. We can quit smoking. We can lose weight. Almost every aberrant behavior can be changed or controlled, especially if we get a chance to intervene early."
Lets just rehabilitate all the dogs that have killed their owners. Great idea. /s/ Lets just let a bunch of OJs run around our neighborhood freely. How about we give this dog and every pit like it to these pitt bull apologists. These Pitt bull defense lawyers can go ahead and take Achilles home and leave him with their elderly family member while they are at work. Come home and find your Dad covered in his own blood with flies all over his dead body just because you are an idiot that sticks up for vicious breeds.
workin hard - yours is the worst idea I'v read on any board today. Congratulations. You've bested some serious competition. I have to admit - if it had been my father I would have strangled it with bare hands to retrain it how to be a stufffed pit bulll.
Pit bulls are kinda like that famous entity: the law abiding gun owner. I.e., they're nice dogs until they are not nice dogs. Unfortunately, they stop being nice dogs a bit more often than most breeds.
And, equally unfortunately, pit bulls serve the same widespread fantasy as does unlimited hand gun availability. Real men do not doubt the need for both.
As the empire declines, the behavior of its beneficiaries and wards grows increasingly bizarre.
Ronny
Perhaps I should have added (sarcasm) to my post. I thought it was clear but I guess not to all.
workin hard - I'm guessing you don't have a dog or are just being sarcastic. I'm guessing the latter.
Just in case you really don't know: ALL dogs need to be trained - to sit, stay, come, wait, etc., not just pit bulls. They also need to be spayed/neutered and socialized. All dogs are capable of aggression, even Yorkies and Chihuahuas. The problem is, a Yorkie or Chihuahua is not big enough to cause too much damage - well, except for the dachschund that ate its owners toes off last year.
As with all breeds of dogs, there are good and bad dogs.
If you don't want the responsibility of having a dog, then do as 'HotinMiami' does and just get tropical fish. The worst that can happen is that you have to scoop up the dead fish bodies every once in awhile at the bottom of the tank (or floating at the top) or wonder where all your little fish have gone and why the tinfoil barb (that used to be small) has now become much bigger!
@wstevens
You are an idiot both because you relate things that have no connection to each other (i.e. apples to oranges) and your beleagured insipid bemoaning against legal gun carriers.
As for "bizarre" I submit you as exhibit "A".
The risk of a pitbull is not worth the reward. Get rid of them. Their ability to do great harm combined with their ability to turn on people is the perfect recipe for more children to get their faces torn off.
Kris
It is actually the former, I don't have a dog. I can see how all dogs need to be trained in some manner but when and what kinds of dogs need a professional to do the training in your opinion?
Richardharrow - I am not an "apologist" for pit bulls. I have never known a bad pit bull, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. I encourage responsible pet ownership, which includes spaying/neutering, obedience training, socialization, etc. This applies to ALL dogs.
This was a bad dog and I would not tolerate any aggressive dog no matter the breed. "Traitor to humankind" because I care about dogs and am a proponent of responsible pet ownership is a rather dramatic label, don't you think? You're acting a little more aggressive than most of the dogs I do know and care about.
Yes...There are differences between animals and humans and I recognize that, as do most sane people. Just as I know the difference between a dog that acts like a good dog and one that acts...I don't know...somewhat like you. Aggressive and calling someone names, who never even mentioned rehabilitation. At all.
This dog was beyond rehabilitation and needed to be put down. End of story.
Feel better about yourself now?
Workin hard - I believe all dogs should be trained by their owner and no one else. Dogs need to respect their owners and obey them.
I am guilty of coddling my dogs from time to time, but I realize they are basically dogs, so have no morals, no understanding of right and wrong (although it seems like they do when you scold them). They need to know your voice and hand signals as far as obedience training, as they will respect you and need these commands to know 1) that you are in charge and 2) that when you give a command, it could be one that saves their lives or is important to keep something from happening, etc.
If you don't have the time or commitment it takes to own a dog, then don't get one and get something different. Like a husband, boyfriend, or Furby. (jk)
"Know a dog" no one knows a dog. "This was a bad dog" no, its a bad breed. They belong in circuses with Lion tamers. "They are normally good dogs" says who? Not me. These are pretty big generalizations brew. The rest of my comment was about all the other apologist for this vicious breed. People continually get killed by these things and the owner is always to blame. If you need a license to get a lion you should also need one to get a Pitt Bull. To your question, do I feel better about myself..Ive always felt great about myself thanks. I just feel a little better about you now since you elaborated. YAY
Far too many idiots out there own these things. I personally do not want to be anywhere around them. "Awe you dont have to be afraid of it Richard" right when I walk in a room, not told a giant beast is coming up to frisk me. Next time I get invited to someones place and I have to deal with that I am going to invite that person over to my place and I am going to be drunk, with my guns out and call them pussies for not wanting to come on in and enjoy themselves. Who does that? Unfortunately too many people. They are intimidating creatures and for some reason that is why people love them. And the people that love to scare people with their dog are not usually the sanest themselves. Bad company hangs with bad company.
My friend had a pit that used a bowling ball as a chew toy. Would chew the bowling ball to smithereens in about 3 days. Not many breeds are capable of doing this. It's that power that translates to maiming and killing without effort. They ended up euthanizing this dog because it destroyed their house and backyard with it's insane desire to chew through ANYTHING. Very nice dog too, but still too powerful to be a good pet.
I ran over a pit bull in my truck yesterday. Smashed him good.
People want lions, tigers, bears, rattlesnakes, monkeys, all sorts of dangerous animals as pets. And they as pets maim and kill also. It has something to do with the animal owner, more so than the pet. Pit bulls don't have a Dr. Phil to confide their troubles too, and thus remain their same basic animal, controlled by their same basic animal instincts. The dog isn't going to feel bad because he killed a person, nor the bear, nor the tiger, nor the snake, that's what they naturally do to survive. When was the last time you saw a dog walk up to the cash register of a grocery store and plop down a $20 dollar bill for a few cans of dog food and a can opener? When was the last time you saw a tiger pay a farmer for an old horse? People have responsibilities and accountabilities for their pets, and their pet's behaviors.
Freedman1 Maybe you'll be the one someones bragging about running over next. Damn Trolls.
The rest of you talking about banning these dogs, how they are such mean dogs and everything else... Make me sick. A damn pit bull registry? Seriously??. EVERY dog can be agressive, which one gets more news attention? A labrador mauls a woman to death... or Pit Bull mauls a woman... The news does nothing but put fear into every single one of you. And you always take the bait.
They are not " things " they are animals. People kill more a year than pit bulls do. Nobody has a problem putting an animal down, yet the bleeding hearts want to give all the murderers 3 hots and a cot and ban the death penalty.
Not every pit bull is agressive like that. Go read the one GOOD story the news chose to give out of the thousands of bad. The 8year old pitbull that saved her owner. PUNISH THE DEED NOT THE BREED. 9/10 it's the owners who make them agressive. They want them to look tough and scary and mean. No dog is born bad anymore than a human is born bad. It's circumstances and the way they are treated that determines that 9 times out of 10.
You people... I swear.
what a horrible story. : (
seems there's one common denominator in these stories and it's that breed.
a friend of mine had one for years, the "family dog". my husband and i were over one night for dinner, as we had done many times before and my husband, who is a huge dog lover, went to let the dog sniff his hand then pet him and the dog lunged at him, shredding his shirt and missing his arm by millimeters. it was so strange because it was such a controlled environment, we had been there before, and this time we were well into our third hour at their house.
it was very frightening to see and the only reason the dog didn't go at him a second time was the owner grabbed his collar before he could try. my husband was in shock and scared s---less.
i can't imagine what this man's father endured. : <
If my dog killed my dad or anyone for that matter I'd personally take a gun and shoot it through the head. What was there to think about? Crazy.
It might not hurt to go ahead & euthanize the dogs owner too.
TexasLaw - if they enter the street I'm drivin' on ~ they're fair game.
Mostly I get possums. Sometimes a pit bull, though.
My father owns a small Minature Schnazer. He has to be very careful around the grandchildren. The dog has a snapping point and could draw blood and cause scarring. I personally love all DOGS period; however I would take so much precaution if I had a pit. I have owned and adored my many American Bull Dogs, they are not pitts, but I took major precaution, trainined and loved my dogs to pieces. I made sure they knew I was alpha dog. I cringe when I read headlines that today are immediate and kn0ow Pitts are in such a bad light. So very sad that idiot owners of pitts have casued this - PERIOD END OF STORY.
What a horrible story. To have your father killed at all, let alone by a beloved pet, is a horrifying event. If no one else was there to know why it happened- if any event happened to cause the attack * or if the dog attacked without provocation, makes it even worse. (*Such as the father tripping over the dog or startling it, or some other unusual stimulus.) I do believe most dogs should be spayed or neutered if kept in a home with multiple dogs- or just in general. We really don't need that many breeding dogs with all the dogs that are currently in need of homes. If a dog is really special, they can always freeze sperm and do breeding much as they do with livestock. Female dogs are generally not as aggressiveif not fixed, but frequently males are and will certainly be agressive if around unfixed females. That could well have something to do with it. I can't imagine what this guy is dealing with, but if he is a responsible dog owner, hopefully he will make sure other dogs he has are fixed, whatever the breed
I have dogs who are large enough to do someone damage, but they are not only fixed but know who is boss in this home and it isn't the dogs. I don't believe they would hurt anyone who is supposed to be here, but I also don't leave them unsupervised with anyone who couldn't control them. As much as I love them, if they were to ever hurt someone who was supposed to be here, I would not hesitate to do what was needed. (That doesn't count if someone stupidly trespasses on our property. Trespassers beware! They are protective of their home and people. And they are all rescued dogs that needed a home.
I have seen some bad owners. I have a mastiff/pittie mix next door, I cannot go out on my back deck without growling, snarling, gnashing of teeth and incredibly aggressive behavior. The owners do nothing with the animal therefore it does not know better. The most they do is scream out the window at it. I fear the day it comes over the fence and takes a chunk out of me when I am on my deck grilling.
The fact that the murdered man's son had to agonize over whether or not to "euthanize" the dog who murdered his father indicates that the son has a warped sense of values. I notice also that not much was mentioned about the son's distress at his father's having been killed in such a gruesome manner.
Will sonny-boy get another pit bull (or whatever) and risk going through the same tragedy again?
And, oh yes, sonny-boy dutifully expressed the same surprise and astonishment that pit bull owners usually express after such tragedies.
Who's next?
It makes me furious that these nimrods keep saying "It's the owner, not the breed" or "All dogs can bite" or "Dogs are dogs, blah, blah, blah." That's like saying all cats are the same, whether it's a tiger or a domesticated house cat. Yes, all dogs can bite, however, the difference is in physiology and probably temperment as well. Cocker spaniels have been known to go into unprovoked rages and pitbulls and closely related breeds seem to have the same problem.
Here's the thing that y'all need to realize. A pitbull can do much more damage than the vast majority of other dogs due to it's musculature and strength of bite, and if they're prone to freaking out because somebody sneezes, or laughs, or trips, or farts, then it's probably not a good idea to have one around. I'm gonna go play with my pet spitting cobra now. It's such a gentle AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MY EYES!!!!!!!
Aw c'mon, put it in the headline - you'd do it for a gun article;
"...after it KILLS his father."
workin hard - sorry I misssed it. You violated rule number one of the internet - Never use sarcasm on the internet- people are just tooo smart for it.
Well, there's another over compensating pencil dick, with someone else who paid for his stupidity. And if you compare a gun to this incident, your a moron. Pit bulls are dangerous without help. Guns need an idiot to make them dangerous.
Kill all pit bulls......NOW.
In response to the people who are freaking out about the recent dog attacks, an infant in our town was attacked and killed by a husky that had been living in the same home with other dogs and another child. A golden retriever bit a kid playing outside of his own house. Perhaps these are two more breeds we should add to the dangerous dogs list along with all of those glorified rats on a string people call dogs.
I have 2 boxers and, because I don't know what his life was like before we got him at 10 months, we (even after 2 years of having him) have worked hard to train our young male and give him the best life that we can. We do know that he is easily intimidated by strangers, especially men, but that doesn't make him dangerous. When our dogs are walked, they are made to sit and wait for people to pass so, when a complete stranger (a man, to boot) walks by and sticks his hand out into my dog's face and gets nipped over his own stupidity, does that make my dog dangerous? Certainly not, it just goes to show that some people are irresponsible. Thankfully, there are people who are properly teaching their children how to approach a strange dog in a responsible way and don't make me look like a bad dog owner. My job shouldn't be to protect other people from themselves, it's to protect my dog from himself.
This situation with this pitty is sad and, if he was a truly responsible owner, he'd ensure that his dogs are spayed and neutered. Sometimes too, it's not about the training and how much they've had, it's about how some dogs, regardless of breed, are inherently built. Like people, there are just some dogs that lack full mental capacity. Sad story and situation for this whole family.
Let's see here:
How many pit bulls kill humans?
How many humans kill humans?
How many humans abuse pit bulls?
How many pit bulls abuse humans?
now he can live with the memory of what his sweet pet did...
This is a pretty bizarre thing to do. Could be he will miss his dog more than his dad.
Sweet?
You funny.
Cappy - Why don't you comment on stories you've read.
He did, and he was clearly being sarcastic.
I know right??? DURRRR
Gavin had already been sited 2 other times because of his dogs' behavior. Now his father is dead by dog attack. Did they remove the other 3 dogs from the household, NO.
If there ever was as case that a person should no have a right to own a dog this is it. Gavin should be charged for the death of his father, with something to have on file and a paper trail. All dogs should be removed and a "protective order" for the humans and dogs that Gavin never live in a household with a dog again.
Owning a dog is not a right but a responsibility to humans and animal alike. The breed doesn't matter. If a person's IQ is lower than the animal's then ownership should be denied.
By the way. unfortunately he clearly said his dad was dead. What was the big rush to call and treat 911 so badly? Why didn't he just call the regular phone number for the police to report a death? The guy was dead, no emeergencie here. 911 is for emergencies. No rush here. The 911 operator was just trying to do his job and get accurate information to send appriorate services. People like to make excuses for bad behavior because it is a stressful situation. The reality is a true character is revealed under stressful situtations.
This post is nasty and mean-spirited. How do you know what Gavin's IQ is? He called 911, as most people would when upset. It's a number ingrained in our minds. His father was dead, was he supposed to calmly look up the regular police number?
Incidentally, my mouse slipped, I meant to click on the reply button and accidentally clicked "like" --- Nope, no one likes your post!
Speaking of IQs, rjw obviously didn't read the article very carefully, as it said the two other times he was not cited, as you state, but wa svisited by police becasue another dog bit his father, and when a female (named Achilles? I don't think so) pit bull was at large. No mention that his dogs bit or was the one at large. Reading is fundamental.
RJ must work for the gov't talking about e.t is a privilege nowadays. If I put my blood, sweat and tears in to it (insert legally) then dammit I deserve. I guess all the laws and requirements make it out to be a privilege once you're fortunate enough to even have the opportunity.
More proof that you are a total d-bag if you own a pit bull, or any other potentially aggressive breed.
Yep, all these owners will start to chime in saying they are wonderful and loving. Sure they are, and the reports of killings are about the same percentage as Golden Retrievers too right? NOT!
The problem is that the fans of these dogs are to damned stupid realize that all the inbreeding makes many of these dogs seriously mentally ill, and I have seen the exact same thing first hand due to Dalmatian inbreeding.
I'm still waiting for the story of someone being mauled to death by an irate Tabby...
Me first. No I don't want your chow chow I will stick with my pit.
Inbreeding can cause possible mental illness and deformations in some pups in a litter. I'm not going to argue with that. I'm sure breeders know that fact to. The healthier and better looking the pit is the more money the breeder will make. A licensed dog will make even more money. Just facts. Am I saying something stupid? Isn't a tabby a type of cat..(not a question) Have you ever gotten scratched by a tabby in heat and required stitches on your leg. True story.
I mean come on..lol. come on at least the author of this article put in some research. It's your turn.
I will stick with my labradors thank you. All they will do is lick you or beat you with their wagging tales. I know too many people that have been seriously bitten or whose other dogs in their households were mauled by this breed.
I'll stick with my tropical fish, thank you. No chance of being scratched or mauled to death.
Walkwithmeinhell - Uh, no thank you.
Did you know that not one documented pit bull attack has ever been done by a dog that was neutered or spayed?
Look it up.
Oh, and ksw62118 - Labrador attacks are on the rise due to in-breeding by backyard breeders. I have heard more and more stories about labs biting people recently. We used to have one years ago and he was a big dog! He never bit anyone, but we got him from a reputable breeder. Because he was big and black, he scared off a lot of people!
All dogs need to be neutered or spayed, obedience trained and socialized. Thugs who own pit bulls because they are part of the dog fighting rings cull a lot of pit bulls based on the fact that most of them will simply not fight. These dogs are disposed of and not allowed to breed.
People who own pit bulls as a form of thug mentality - making them look tough and manly - are the ones that REALLY need to be neutered.
Walkwithmeinhell,
I've owned three rotties, and they were all phenominal dogs. The only one that had temperment issues was the female I adopted when she was four. I couldn't let her around anyone. Towards the end of her years, I had to have an xray done on her for her heart, they found shotgun pellets in her that had been there for years. Now I wonder why she only loved one person (me), and hated everyone else? She died in my arms at the age of 11 from a heart attack.
The other two I raised from when they were six weeks old. They never hurt a fly, even though people were scared of them (they each weighed around 120 lbs). People and kids that got to know them loved them. Prince, the youngest, would follow my neices around whining and watching them, wouldn't let them out of his sight, and was always extremely gentle with them. I ended up having to put him down at the age of 10 from bone cancer.
Don't you ever generalize about dogs, it proves that you are utterly clueless and have hate in your heart... which dogs sense and won't like you either. The extreme high majority of issues with dog behavior is strictly due to the owners (kind of like bad kids with irresponsible parents). I have no problem with making the owners responsible for their dogs. Now... if we can just get that law for parents (yes I have a son)!
My current dogs are a border collie and yellow lab, both great dogs :)
ksw62118: My father-in-law's Staffordshire Terrier (one of those dreaded "bully breeds"), was mauled half to death by a neighbor's loose Labrador while she was being walked on the leash. The attack was unprovoked, and the dog, who was KNOWN to be vicious, had to be beaten away with a golf club. Poor Roxie's scars were horrific. She didn't try to fight back, she just wanted to get away!
Our problems with bully breeds now are the same as our problems were with Dalmations, Dobermans, German Shepherds, Rottweilers ...
STUPID owners buying dogs for STUPID reasons and not caring for them properly.
In this case, the dog wasn't neutered, living in a house with three other dogs who, judging by the history we are given of the home, probably also weren't neutered. Unless this man was an accomplished dog trainer and breeder, that's a recipe for disaster.
According to the American Humane Association, 92% of all fatal dog attacks involve males, 94% of which were not neutered.
Too many people have their masculinity tied up in their dog's balls.
I never had my male rotties fixed and never had any issues with them. On the other hand, both also went through over a year of puppy/dog training starting at 6 months, and were always loved, never abused.
I strongly believe that the high majority are due to the the treatment and upbringing of the dog.
Currently we have five dogs, two are mine, two are my wife's (merged families when we married so four), and I'm babysitting my brother's dog since he's mostly out on a sub right now with the Navy. All of the dogs are fixed, but we still have the occasional arguement between them, which is to be expected.
I had one aquaintance (not a friend) that had a pitbull. When I knew her she was extremely friendly. I watched him abuse the hell out of her though, like picking her up by her jowls and throwing her against the wall. A few years later I saw him and asked how she was, she had turned on him and bitten him, so he put her down. Was the last time I was quiet about abuse.
AlexM I totally agree with you. It is often the owners, who are young and want a status symbol, or just immature. However that doesn't change the fact that these dogs are a danger to others and if we can't get owners in compliance then it seems like the only other option is to ban the breed. People are not going to stop being stupid and irresponsible, do we risk the lives of others to please them alone?
No we don't risk others lives Skeptical. I was always careful with my rotties. I never took them out for walks because of all of the other dogs people just let run in the neighborhood. I knew if there was a fight, my rottie would win, but due to their breed, it would automatically be their fault. They were my kids, and I protected them as such. When move between houses, I always put up a 6' cedar privacy fence with screws, a concrete base to discourage digging, and I run a hot wire up top to discourage jumping.
If you're going to have a large breed dog, then you need to take the responsibility of owning one. If you're just getting it to be 'tough' or 'cool', then nine times out of ten you'll turn it mean so it can give the impression you want. By doing that, you obvioiusly aren't being responsible and are putting people's lives in danger. So if your dog hurts someone, it's your fault and should be prosecuted as such.
With that said, just like any species (including human), there are bad apples out there. And, just like humans, they need to be put down. Some dogs are just born mean (just like humans), and are a danger to anyone around them sooner or later. The only difference with dogs is a rat dog can devour you and kill you like a pit bull can, which is why you never really hear about small dogs attacking.... even though they attack at a higher rate than large dogs.
As far as this specific article, I would guess that the quote is possible right in saying the dog might have had a tumor or something. Dogs tend to not just turn mean without a reason, whether it be how they were raised... or a medical issue...
It should be illegal to own ANY non-neutered male dog. Breeders can apply for a special exemption if they can establish that they are a reputable breeder. Millions of dogs are euthanized each year because there are too many dogs.
I love dogs - and have owned several very large dogs. I have nothing against pit bulls. But they are dangerous if they are not neutered.
People who have children and also own intact male dogs should be criminally prosecuted if the child is harmed.
It should be illegal to allow any non dog lover or dog abuser to breed. they just produce more fearful people that want to generalize all dogs and breeds. People like Jill should be forced to become sterile
that was a very strangely written story. the author must be chuck todds dyslexic sister.
Here we go again!!! every day another story of a pit bull killing or mauling someone. They all need to be euthanized. Maybe some of their owners, too.
Shud up
Will never understand why people breed these dogs? They should be culled from the evolutionary tree. We always hear about how good they are as pets but it simply isn't worth the risk. Yes, a German Shepherd, Labrador Retrievers and Collie can do similar damage but they generally don't.
Beyond everything else you are responsible for your dog and its behavior. I have a neighbor who is a fairly small woman but has a large Mastiff/Pit Bull mix. Just waiting for it to get loose and maul someone. And then she will talk about how sweet he was and how he had never done anything like that before. It's an old story. Not fair to the animal either.
Don't own something you can't handle or that might pose a danger to those around you. We had a baby partially eaten and dismembered recently here in SC that was left unattended in a child swing. And that was just an ordinary mutt dog that did that killing. Nothing anyone would want to wake up to as happened to this father (who fell asleep).
People have guard dogs for a reason lady. If she wants you to be afraid of it then her job is done. That is what she has them for..so you won't break in an try and steal her prized possession you've been eying. Just a thought from another point of view.
They generally don't. My response is put more pits in perminent homes, treat them just like any of those dogs and watch those statistics slowly but surely change.
Now isn't that a better option that killing them off. shouldn't we attempt that first before anything. If you said no you are an illogical person and I can't mess with you. Good day!
A trained guard dog would not have done this.
I was referring to vox and her neighbors dog man. Mind grown folks business.
A neutered or spayed dog would not do this, either. Please people, no matter what breed of dog you have, have it spayed or neutered. We don't need anymore dogs in the world and the ones in the shelters will most likely be euthanized for no other reason than no one wants them.
Responsible pet ownership is the key to good canine behavior. Always spay/neuter your dog, take them to obedience training, do NOT chain them outside or leave them isolated. Socialize them, but always keep them in control and never leave them alone with small children or elderly/disabled people who can't control them when you are gone. This goes for all breeds of dogs. All of them.
I have had a pit bull mix (pit bull and boxer), but she was spayed and trained and was the sweetest dog in the world. The dog I was most afraid of was the yappy, nippy little dog down the street that would try to bite her when we passed in front of her house. The dog was not under anyone's control, not on a leash and had numerous complaints made about her. My pit bull would not even growl at her and just kept on walking.
Sorry to disagree Kris but I worked with a woman who had a neutered pit who went to obedience training and still seriously bit her child in the face without provocation. The family was very shocked to say the least having done everything right with the dog. Their son required over 200 stitches in his face, needless to say they got rid of the dog.
ksw62118 - Sorry to hear that and I wish their son well. This had to be a very rare occurence, as I have never heard of that. In fact, all of the pit bull attacks I've read and researched have all involved "intact" dogs. I have not read any documented story that involved spayed or neutered dogs.
Sometimes there are just bad dogs, regardless of the breed. I'm certainly not saying that all pit bulls are good, just as with any other breed, you have to be vigilant and take precautions, especially if there are ANY signs of aggression. All dogs are capable of aggression, just like humans. All the pit bulls I know and have known over the years have not attacked anyone. Many are therapy dogs that go to nursing homes or hospitals without any hint of aggression whatsoever.
You can read just as many stories involving pit bulls that focus on the good examples of pit bulls, including one, today, where a pit bull rescued its owner from getting run over by a train. The dog took the brunt of the train hit, but the owner was fine.
Not everything is black and white.
Sounds like the issue is the Father who chose falling asleep for a nap rather than being a parent.
All this reminds me of the mass murderer, who always was the nice quiet guy that would never hurt a fly, until enraged because his wife cooked the wrong egg for breakfast, killed her, the rest of his family and most of the people on his block. Like that scene in True Grit, the two bandits were being questioned, one guy cuts off his friends fingers then shoots him to keep him from talking, as the wounded guy dies he says, "My pard was always my friend, before he kilt me". So to the people who live next to pit bulls, good luck, I am one too, keep your shotgun locked and loaded by the back door, because with pit bulls, one never knows.
This is at least the fourth story of a pit bull attacking people I've read in just a few days. Everyone of the owners has expressed shock. Yet, I'm sure there will still be a string of people posting how loving, sweet and gentle their pits are. So were the ones who attacked. If Achilles had been my dog, I would have thought about it for less than a second and said "Put him down!" This isn't just the owners, and how the dog is treated, this breed is not safe!
It's the owner. The old man did something or didn't do something..whatever he did it was wrong.
What he did wrong was live in a house with a naturally aggressive animal. It's the dog.
Who knows what the father did, if anything. Nothing justifies this attack. A well-trained, socialized, spayed or neutered dog would probably have not done this. The owner should have taken precautions and caged the dog while he was at work. The father was sitting on the porch and the dog attacked him. Therefore, the dog was not in anyone's control and could just have easily hurt someone else passing by - a child, another person, or someone's dog.
The fact that the police were called several times to the house, once because another uncontrolled dog bit the owner, the other time because a female (probably in heat) was running loose, may have caused the dog to become agitated and more aggressive.
Sure, blame the victim. It can't be that the animal went into a rage all of a sudden, right? The man was sitting on the porch, and the dog provoked the attack by seeking him out.
Saying the dog is innocent, it's the old mans fault is like saying Hitler was really a great guy, it must have been the Jews fault...
Look, another pit bull story, another person killed by one. These animals should be exterminated. Each and every last one. The only people who own these things are people who feel they have to prove how tough they are. You can't convince me otherwise. I'm sick of all of the pit bull defenders trying to make people believe they own them because they're so sweet and loving. Is it worth having your dog kill your father? Your toddler? We all read yesterday's comments defending the beast that attacked the 2 year old, I'd like to see new points defending this one.
Julie, you won't see any 'new points,' defending the killer breed, just the same old drivel!
Julie-1468472
Even a Pit Bull owner realizes that they'd sound awfully stupid defending the breed with two stories back to back like this. Wait a month. There'll be another Pit Bull mauling and all the morons will come out of the woodwork and act like it's the first Pit attack in the history of time.
Coming out of the Dollar General last night, I saw a Pit Bull supporter and their car: "Punish the deed, not the breed," written in gangsta calligraphy on the window with an outline of a Pit. It was a fat white trash lady driving a crusty-ass Impala. This is the face of the Pit Bull defense society!
Defendants will come out with statistics like "only 2% of attacks are pitbulls" and "they only seem like bad dogs because the media doesn't talk about other breed attacks" and drivel like that.
Yes, with hundreds and hundreds of breeds out there, I can see how pitbulls can be in the only 2 percentile, but when you filter it to major maulings and deaths, pitbulls percentage number is going to rise up that ladder faster than you can finish reading this sentence. (wasn't that fast?)
Adam-3130244 - Pit Bulls make up 2% of the dog population, but account for about 26% of attacks, according to the CDC.
Most "pit bulls" aren't even bull terriers, they're a mix of boxer, lab, terrier. No news reports headline "mutt mauls man to death!" - just doesn't carry the weight that demonizing a specific "breed" does.
If you would read the article more closely, they weren't even sure if the dog was a pit bull. It could have been a pit bull/mastiff crossbreed. Many dog attacks are reported as pit bull attacks, when in fact, they are not pit bulls at all. If a newspaper publishes "Pit Bull Attack", it will sell more papers than "Mutt Attack". Sensationalsm at its finest. No matter what the breed is, you'll find bad dogs in ALL breeds, as well as, good ones.
Brush up on your reading comprehension skills.
Kris1234-3592742 - If you would look at the picture more closely, you'd be sure it was a Pit. And a Pit/Mastiff crossbreed doesn't exactly exonerate Pits, since it would still be half Pit.
Brush up on your picture looking skills.
zupercam - Do you even know what breeds are called "pit bulls"? You have the American Staffordshire Terrier, Bull Terrier, Bull Mastiff, American Pit Bull Terrier (UKC, not AKC), not to mention a mix of all of these or some of these. Mastiffs, as a rule are more aggressive since they have been used for centuries as guard and war dogs. I have no problem saying that this was probably a bad dog, regardless of the breed. Aggression in any dog should not be tolerated.
BTW - Brush up on your dog breed identifying skills. "Picture looking" skills? Really?
As someone who owns a Mastiff breed (Giant Maso which is an English Mastiff and Italian Mastiff cross) and has met a few American Mastiff (English Mastiff and Bulldog cross) dogs, the dog in the story is at least half American Staffordshire Terrier (PIT BULL). It's the shape of the head that's the giveaway. Particularly the stop above the muzzle and the rise between and beyond the eyes.
My sister had a Pit and Yellow Lab cross who WAS sweet, but that is the exception and not the norm. People generally get Pits and Pit-looking dogs for the intimidation factor if they're not actually fighting them. Other people may not be checking the pedigree well enough to make sure that the puppy they're about to buy is far removed from ANY fighting line. Are there sweet pits out there? Probably yes, but if you go back in the breed history they were BRED initially for fighting. That was the PURPOSE of the creation of the breed. Both in England and in South America (where the non-Pit yet still Pit-looking and Pit-acting breeds were created) they created dogs who were designed for FIGHTING. SO if you go back in the DNA of the breed you are bound to find one tied to fighting stock. The trick is to get far enough away from the actual fighting stock, and even then you're not guaranteed a "safe" dog. Especially if you don't alter it (spay/neuter). There are always "throwbacks" where the aggression is hair-trigger and it is not known exactly what causes it.
Anyone see the story today about the pit bull that dragged it's drunken owner off the train tracks? Owner escaped without injuries because the dog got between her and the train.
Cat - Pit Bulls were an American breed that were bred for fighting, yes, but fighting other dogs. They are never supposed to be aggressive towards people and should never be bred when aggression is displayed. Remember "Petey" in "The Little Rascals"? That was a pit bull. This dog was around children constantly and never attacked or bit anyone. Pit Bulls were used in the military and were once called "Nanny" dogs, due to their devotion to the children in their families. A true pit bull would never harm a child.
Somewhere along the line, these dogs were interbred without regard to temperament, conformation or anything other than to entertain humans by fighting with other dogs. This is still true today and the whole thug culture revolves around which dog is toughest and can kill other pit bulls. Many pitties that will not fight and have no aggressive traits are not allowed to breed and are killed.
Remember Michael Vick? All his former pit bulls, with the exception of two, were rescued and became therapy dogs and happy well-adjusted dogs adopted by loving families. There are a lot of pit bulls that have not one vicious trait among them and are loving pets. I have not met or known any aggressive pit bulls at all. That doesn't mean they aren't out there, 'cause they are, just like any other breed.
If you outlaw the breed, thugs will just find some bigger, badder breed that will become another fighting dog for their entertainment "pleasure". It always astounds me how base a human being will be when it comes to money. Believe me, a lot of money is involved with fighting dogs. These dogs are abused, tortured and treated as status symbols in the thug community. The "winner" is always the thug and the "loser" is always the dog. Anything to please their master.
http://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-dogs-pit-bull-myths.php
http://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.com/2010/10/americas-dog-tige.html
http://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.com/2010/11/americas-dogs-nipper.html
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http://maultalk.wordpress.com/2010/08/20/you-cannot-trust-the-media/
http://maultalk.wordpress.com/2012/03/13/its-not-the-dogs-fault/
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Kris1234, etc.- You do make a good point about if you get rid of pit bulls (and realistically, how would you do that?), people will just come up with another type of dog to ruin. This whole thing is just sad. Sad for victims, their families, and the dogs. I don't know what the answer is.
Perhaps the whole situation needs to be looked into. This person had four dogs, were they all pitties? What was the purpose of having at least one that was unneutered? Was he quietly running a breeding operation? If so and one of the females came into heat and he had another male, there is a basis right there for aggression. While there is certainly question as to this dog being a Staffordshire Terrier, it could easily be called a street pit bull. Not an American Pit Bull but a street pit. Those who choose to have street bred dogs are the ones who have dangerous dogs. Staffies and American Pits are not the same. They are bred from selective genes and are not violent dogs. However, there are certain characteristics inherent in the breed and that needs to be taken into consideration when someone chooses this breed for a companion. The whole point of a pedigree dog is owning a dog with a predictable temperament. Yes there are some that will be outside the norm but that is almost always caused by a bad breeder who is in it for money and breeding from bad stock to begin with and poor handling. And breed that is "chosen" to be a favorite, whether a pit bull, a cocker spaniel or a dalmatian will have a much higher incidence of dangerous dogs in it.
So sad he went 74 year to be killed by a dog, rest in peace Clifford Wright.
Owners should be held criminally liable for the action of their animals.
Did the 27 y/o own the pit. It's seems like they both have some ownership since he lives there. It's wrong (in my opinion) to just sit by while a dog suffers and justify your actions by saying it's not my responsibility. A 75 y/o should no better.
I agree with you as long as you are saying ALL dog owners should be held responsible for their dog's actions.
I agree with that. All animal owners should be held accountable for their animal's actions.
Did you all miss the story of the pit bull who saved its owner when she passed out next to the train tracks? MSNBC has a video posted on the home page as well.
Also, the report states: "Even Achilles may not have been a pit bull and may have just have just been labeled one based on a vet's guess. Many in the shelter thought he could have had American Mastiff genes, she said. His history isn't known, nor is his medical state." Does anyone even care that the main link on the home pages says pit bull but when you click it the headline changes to "pet dog"?
None of us were there so none of us can say with 100% certainty what happened. This household had four dogs and had already had previous incidents with authorities. Were the other dogs in the household spayed or neutered? Which dog had previously bit the father? I'm truly sorry for the loss the owner has suffered. There are however a thousand other things that could be going on as to why this dog and his father died.
Dogs are not toys, they are not family members, they are not our babies, and they are not human. We do not speak dog nor can we mind read dog. We have to stop tying human emotion to their actions and realize that owning a dog of any breed is a huge responsibility. You cannot have a working dog like a mastiff, pit bull/mix, terrier, etc and treat it like a lap dog. People should be required to demonstrate that they've researched the breed they are interested in before bringing that dog into their homes.
Stop, you sound like a clown. So, one good pitt bull story erases the HUNDREDS of maulings a year that go on courtesy of this beast?
You're an apologist.
"Even Achilles may not have been a pit bull and may have just have just been labeled one based on a vet's guess."
Thank you. This quote makes a world of difference in the story. It was a DOG that did this. No one knows what breed of dog it was.
Actually (@stupidity should be a crime), there are also HUNDREDS (actually more than hundreds) of pit bull, pit mix dogs that are certified as therapy dogs, service dogs, search & rescue, police k9's, have their CGC (canine good citizen certification), etc that are saving lives every day. You don't read those stories though do you? Oh wait, the media doesn't like to print the good dog stories because *gasp*, people just don't get as riled up if they can't say PIT BULL KILLED/MAULED/(insert your preferred heading) in the story and darn it all, what good is news if people aren't demanding that something be killed???
There are MILLIONS of dogs in households just here in the US. MILLIONS and while the death of a human caused by a dog is indeed something that we humans should try to find a way to resolve, how about the fact that more children are killed EVERY DAY by their parent(s)/guardian(s) then all the dogs in the US kill in a year? That's where our true failing as human beings is. We get all worked up and demand that entire breeds of dogs be killed because of our own failure to understand them yet we just shrug at the latest "father kills his kids" story because well, it happens ever day.
Once all the dogs are dead, will we shift our focus to start killing the "breed" of humans killing humans until they are all gone as well?
Famous last words:
"My pitbull has always been such a sweet harmless pooch!"
It should be against the law to breed or possess this breed of dog.
Wow! Yet "another" pit bill killing!! One thing I've noticed reading these stories week after week is that there are, many times, very few to no witnesses to the attack, so the attack itself cannot be explained. But, the pit bull owners jump up and say, "Well, the dog must have been provoked!" And a second thing I've noticed is the pit bull lovers starting to say more and more is, "Well, that's not really a pit bull, it's something else." Just like Mary Martin, executive director of the Santa Fe animal shelter, in this article.
"What we're finding out is a lot of them have none of the gene markers for what we label a pit bull or pit bull mix, but instead they might have mastiffs or another breed in them," REALLY??? And just what kind of DNA tests are you doing on dogs at the SPCA nowadays miss Martin!!! Absolute load of crap!!!!
Pit bulls are not as bad as having snakes in the house and call them "pets".
You're right--if it's a Black Mamba and you don't keep it in a terrarium. Nobody's dumb enough to do that, but somehow people think it totally bitchin' and badass to have a Pit Bull wander around with toddlers and the elderly.
That's how they end up in the news.. A smart parent wont let a kitten near a toddler in fear for the kitten can taken apart like a puzzle and the kid scratched to death. It can happen cats are crazy!
That Achilles was sure a heel to attack that poor old man.
Dog owners should be liable for the damages their dogs do. In this case, not only should the dog be euthanized, but the owner imprisoned. If the liability was extended to an owner, maybe people would quit getting pit bulls. People comment about other breeds, which may bite, but really how many kill humans other than pit bulls? There's a difference between a bite and killing a human. The only bright side about this story is that it did not kill an innocent. I'd rather it be a family member than some passerby.
There already is breed specific liability laws on pits in some areas but can't recall where. Doubt ppl would stop getting pit bulls though. Just be more cautious and protective. Just put pits in more perminent homes and watch the stats change and that law, rule, regulation or w.e it's called become unnecessary.
I always thought the owner was responsible. Who get's a ticket if you don't get proper shots and register the dog. Can the owner be sued if their dog bites. Yes. I think that just makes it easier to prosecute a neglectful owner. It doesn't and shouldn't be breed specific.
Did anyone else happen to read the paragraph, where they state that they are WRONG more than 50% of the time when identifing the dog as a pitbull. And the next paragraph says they aren't even sure this was a pit bull but probaly a mastiff. Just wondering if anyone else reads more then the headline.
American Mastiff is a cross between the American Bulldog and the English Mastiff which is why it qualifies as a "bully breed" (meaning breeds that have ties to the Bulldog). The American Bulldog is a cross between the English Bulldog and Bull Terriers.
The dog kills his father and he has to take the weekend to think about if he wants to put the dog down? Are you kidding me?
This man seems to be grieving for the dog than his father.
He does, doesn't he! WTH is wrong with people???
SPAY AND NEUTER YOUR DOGS. PERIOD! I can't believe people will not get this through their thick skulls.
That's one thing I'll never understand. There always seems to be more outrage when a stupid dog gets killed than when a person does (especially on these message boards).
There are many breeds of dogs that are just as famous for there violent nature.
Rottweilers,
German Shepherds
Huskies
Alaskan Malamutes
Doberman Pinschers
Chow Chow
Presa Canario
Boxer
Dalmatian
Pit Bulls are number 1
those are the badazz breeds except dalmatian,german shepherds,huskis,alaskan malamutes,and boxer they suck. i think the number one should be presa canario there the bomb
This is the 2nd attack by a pit bull that I read abouth this week. The other was (if I remember correctly) a toddler of about 2 years of age.
My grand daughter was bitten about 2 years ago by a pit bull in the neighborhood that had always been very friendly, then suddenly attacked.
I was attacked by dogs twice, both times they were pit bulls. The first one had managed to escape from its yard and came after me while I was walking down the street. This was about 30 years ago. That dog was immediately killed by the police when they responded to my call and were also attacked.
The second time was a year ago. I am now living in a rather rural area and while out walking, this dog charged and actually dug under achain link fence. Fortunately, the owner was in the yard and got the dog before it got me.
I have said this before and will say it again, PIT BULLS CANNOT BE TRUSTED.
To each their own ernie.. I've encountered several stray pits and they weren't interested in me. Looked like they just wanted to do a few laps around the block until their owner found them. I'd think they would be more interested in other dogs then you. Were you wearing doggy perfume???
Yep pitbulls are stupid killers.
The only pit bulls I've ever know have been at the dog park. They've all been sweethearts. I remember walking with a pack of them when an Australian Cattle Dog came up and picked a fight with one of the pit bulls as well as my Springer Spaniel. The pit bull and my dog did not fight back. Pits are not all bad dogs.
i agree i have 2 pitbulls and they are so sweet and playful but my moms chihuahua is a difrent story she is agressive she has bit me lots of times so if you ask me i think we should ban chihuahuas not the big friendly pitbulls all they do is listen and obey if there master makes them agressive then they will be agressive if not they wont bottom line they are the most loyal breed you can find. its all the owners fault is how they traine them
As my dog trainer says, if you can run faster and bite harder than your dog, then don't worry about the training.
Ernie, the other attack was not because of the pit, it was because the parents were stupid enough to leave a 2 year old alone with any dog.