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Matt York / AP
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
Escalating a long-running battle with the outspoken sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona, the Justice Department on Thursday sued him, his office and the county over civil rights issues involving racial profiling.
"The police are supposed to protect and serve our communities, not divide them. This is an abuse of power case," said Tom Perez, the head of the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division.
"If you look Latino, you are fair game," he said.
The county has refused to impose a program, proposed by the Obama administration, that would train deputies on how to make traffic stops without improperly targeting Latinos. "They're telling me how to run my organization. I'm not going to give up my authority to the federal government," Sheriff Joe Arpaio said Wednesday before the lawsuit was filed.
The Justice Department claims that since 2006, Maricopa County sheriff's officers unfairly have targeted Latinos for traffic stops -- unlawfully detaining, searching and arresting people, many of whom turn out to be US citizens or legal residents.
The lawsuit claims that the Sheriff's Office discriminates against jail inmates who have trouble speaking English. Commands are issued only in English, and when prisoners who don't understand them fail to comply, entire areas of a jail are put in lockdown, inciting "obvious hostility," Perez said.
He said Latino jail inmates are also forced to sign English-language legal documents in which they forfeit key legal protections.
A third category of improper conduct, the lawsuit says, involves retaliation by the Sheriff's Office against perceived critics, including judges, lawyers, and community leaders.
"They have been subject to actions designed to silence and punish them, including wrongful arrests and baseless lawsuits," Perez said.
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I guess Joe is refusing to put away his KKK hood. They can't make im do it garsh too'in, he says.
Kinda reminds me of Boss Hogg
TFNJ - Wearing a suite and tie and typing obviously doesn't change the fact that you are a housecat with the mental capacity to match.
I'll bet you I'm leagues smarter than Joe.... LMAO
Meow
Joe looks like he will gum you if he can't arrest you.
How do you wear a suite? Like a KKK hood?
It's when you're so fat and lazy they have to knock down a wall to get you out of your suite, that is how you wear it.
daryl, thanks. But I know. I've played this game with his type before.
pjam09, come on now. A Bazooka Joe style come back remark? You can do better than that. Did you mean suit?
TFNJ You ,ay have played the game with some, but not me. You obviously do not live in Az. or you think these people should be here on a free ride and WE do not think so. This is AMERICA, WE speak english, if you come here, learn the language and become a citizen then you won't have a problem. Sheriff Joe is doing what my tax dollars pay him to do and that doesnt fit obummers agenda cause it gets rid of illegals that vote ILLEGALLY for him. Wake up people, we are in deep do-do and sinking
AZ land owner.... please don't claim that illegals get to vote and then ask me to wake up. The deep do-do you smell is the logic that professes that illegals vote in our elections, and receive welfare and/or unemployment compensation.
The LIES and hyperbole that people spew can, at times, be astounding.
The government can't possibly handle anything that is in their rhelm of responsibility when they can't handle anything else. What makes them think they can do a better job than Joe. It's all political and Joe is on the C$#% end of the stick. I'm certain there are millions of us out there that would be willing to support Joe in his efforts to maintain control of that which the State and local authorities have commissioned him with. The news media are the ones creating all this mess. YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB....JOE !!!!!
R. Woodward - bring on the 'millions' that support Joe--to maintain control of an immigration system that is broken; where ALL immigrants who come to our shores wait for DECADES for approval to remain here? Where Jan Brewer and her cabinet comprised of former CCA cronies had plans to turn the PRIVATE prisons that had emptied out into prison camps to house Latino families? NOT deport them but to have them remain here ALL AT TAXPAYERS EXPENSE, as the PRIVATE PRISON SYSTEM reaped MILLIONS!
The NEWS MEDIA has not "created this mess!" Granted, they have not informed Americans of ALL that is at stake here. I've been to AZ but will never go back. I'm 'dark-skinned' and I'll be damned, as an American, that I'll have to show ID to anyone. State's rights, fine. Allow AZ to live with that!
That, Joe, and Jan!
R. Woodward, tell that to the hundreds of natural born and naturalized citizens of the US which have been stopped by Arpaio's deputies (some even locked up) ...for what amounts to the high crime of "Appearing Hispanic in public".
This is a civil rights issue and a basic issue of fairness; and by extension it is the exact business of the US Dept. of Justice. Law enforcement officers in this country do not have the right to "profile" and harass American citizens on the basis of skin color and ethnicity. Arpaio is destined to serve time in Federal prison, and unfortunately will receive much better treatment there than he has mandated for those under his custody in the State of Arizona.
Robert
Care to share the source for your allegations?
Your full of it Robert. That's just a half-a$$ed excuse to spew your political propaganda. If someone that is here legally gets stopped they are let go once they prove it. The majority of illegals are coming from Mexico and South America so obviously they are going to look Latino. If you can offer up some alternative means of identifying a possible Illegal lets here it. Otherwise, STFU.
I have seen articles describing individuals here in the states legally (even citizens) who have been victims of such profiling and were not "released immediately". I remember one story about a truck driver not being allowed to be released until his wife showed up with a birth certificate... Even though he had a valid CDL license on him. How many of you carry your birth certificate on your person at all times? Is that something we should be asking people to do? Papers please! Achtung!
'slodeon' and 'jpeyton76' the source is this article and the complaint filed by the US Justice Dept. It would appear that neither of you have read either of them.
Well done, just deny and deride others rather than reading and informing yourselves before commenting. Here's a clue for you both: Ignorance is not bliss, it is just ignorance.
By the way, 'jpeyton' your statement that "if someone is here legally gets stopped they are let go once they prove it" is exactly the point. Profiling an individual by color or ethnicity assumes them to be here illegally, until they prove they are a US citizen or documented alien. Some of the US citizens and documented aliens held by Arpaio's department have not been released for 72 hours (that's 3 days) or longer. It's in the Justice Dept. complaint!
When is the last time you two were stopped by a law enforcement officer and asked to prove that you were a US citizen. I suspect you will not understand the humiliation and anger and fear until you are put in that situation; which ... if you are a light skinned Caucasian without apparent Hispanic ethnicity is very unlikely to happen to you. THINK!!!
Debbie, your papers are not in order.
For those who are inclined to gain insight (rather than to just comment and incite), ....read the US Justice Dept. complaint:
United States of America vs. Joseph M. Arpaio
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/355801-united-states-vs-joseph-m-arpaio.html
Noelle,
I would venture to say that if you are driving in any state and stopped for some form of vehicular infraction you will be required to show identification. If you refuse to show your identification or you don't have any identification, you can be arrested. That is no different than what the statute in AZ states. They are not just stopping people for no reason.
Our own federal government under Obama's administration has been found guilty of holding US citizens in federal cells. It just happened recently and now the guy is suing the federal government. The federal government is probably bringing up this story to shift the view somewhere else. I do have to say that more places here in the US should be running their jails the same as the prisoners should be working for their own food, be dressed in whatever garments that stick out as this is jail not Club Med.
Robert, you are reading a complaint...not evidence. For a year a a half, the Government of AZ and the Sheriffs office have been asking for proof. Holder has provided nothing.
If there was actual proof of criminal or civil misdoing by the Sheriff's office, lawsuits would have already been filed by the individuals who's rights were violated.
Thanks for the chuckle, 'jpeg.' It is interesting how some minds work (or don't).
So to paraphrase what you are saying is that a well documented 32-page legal complaint in Federal District Court, filed by the United States Justice Department citing "grievous and institutionalized violations" of the United States Constitution and a "long and egregious pattern of civil rights abuses" directed toward Latino individuals in Maricopa county, Arizona ... is just "a complaint"; worthless; not meritorious.
But Joe Arpaio's targeting and harassment of Latinos, and arrests and detainment without any probable cause or legitimate reason other than that they are Latino .... is just fine with you? Interesting.
Joe Arpaio's rights and his presumption of innocence is paramount, of course. But why don't you feel that the presumption of innocence and the rights of Latinos alleged to have been targeted by Arpaio have equal importance and should be protected?
Again, I suggest you read the 32-page United States of America vs. Joseph M. Arpaio federal complaint, before drawing your conclusions. I provided the link. Educate yourself.
Slodon,
The source of the issue is "Unlawful Search and Siezure."
By profiling Hispanics, Sherriff Arpaio has allowed his officers to Unlawfully search and sieze and sometimes detain LEGAL citizens of the US, based on their heritage. I don't see how that is good legal procedure in any way shape or form.
The US is having to deal with this kind of thinking all across the country and by allowing Arpaio to continue this opens the door for the descrimination of Blacks, Arabs (both Christian and Muslim), Hispanics, Indians, and, basically, anyone who is not the same race as the personnel conducting the profiling.
If these individuals are breaking the law, then all bets are off, but from what I understand about what Arpaio has been allowing, they are using "probable cause" to target Hispanics. No law violation is attached here, unless something is found in the searches.
Yes, 'Military Man', you have perfectly nailed the issue.
And actually the Federal complaint cites violations of the First amendment, Fourth amendment and Fourteenth amendment of the United States Constitution.
And this complaint is not about the issue of "illegals", as some of you believe/choose to believe. Read the complaint. This is all about a pattern of violations of Federal law, and violations of civil rights. And many of those civil rights violations have been directed against United states citizens and/or documented legal resident aliens ...because of their ethnicity.
And even if this were an "illegals" issue (which it is not) no American noting the fact that the term "illegal aliens" does not appear in the U.S. Constitution should let that lead you to believe that its rights and freedoms do not apply to those human beings as well, when they are on United States soil. The courts have persistently held otherwise.
Often described as a "living document," the US Constitution has repeatedly been interpreted by the U.S. Supreme Court, federal appeals courts and the US Congress in order to address the ever-changing needs and demands of the people. While many argue that "We the People of the United States," refers only to legal citizens, the Supreme Court has consistently disagreed with that argument and belief.
So, if you do not wish for the equal protections and civil rights gaurantees of the United States Constitution to apply to some among us (for whatever personal reasons and biases you may hold,) then work to change that document and its provisions.
But until then ... respect the laws which govern the rights of individuals, or you may find that some group in the future may decide they do not wish to honor your own rights and protections. Your tune might change, then.
So do you think that the DOJ will leap to defend this illegal immigrant's Second Amendment right. After all equal protection.
REPLY: 'Bassai', you have cited a legal case which cites gun possession restrictions specifically imposed by an Act of Congress, and backed by a decions of a Federal Appeals Court. Unless overturned by the US Supreme Court, on appeal, that decision will be precedent for such restrictions to be enforced.
Do not confuse the issue being discussed. The violation of equal protections and civil rights -- which have not been modified by Act of Congress, or by amendment of the US Constitution or by decision of the court -- is a different matter.
Extra-judicial and extra-legislative violations of civil rights and equal protections gauranteed by the US Constitution is not the purvue of any other individual or entity.
The law is the law is the law; inconvenient though it may be for some who wish to pursue their own agenda. If you do not like the law, work to change it. Until then respect the law, and respect the right of others gauranteed by our Constitution.
LOL! Good answer.
Again Robert, Please provide and alternative means of identifying a possible Illegal.
With your logic if a person that is seen leaving the scene of a crime is identified by race the police have no right to stop people fitting the description of said race because it infringes on their civil rights. Do you consider my assumption of your logic to be true? It sure seems that you would from the arguments you are presenting here.
I tell you... There are times I think it is pretty scary living in AZ with this 40's southern mentality of Joe and his supporters, I read posts from you people and really feel the need to know where YOU live so I don't make the mistake of moving anywhere near you... Those of you that can read an occasional article and feel knowledgable enough to defend him so strongly are as scary as he is.... All prejudice is passed-on by those without knowledge of which they speak... Those that just repeat what they are told. Knowledge will free you if you mind is open.
'jpeyton76' wrote:
REPLY: And again, despite your insistence that this is an issue about identifying "possible illegals", it is not. You want this Federal complaint to be about illegal immigration, and you cannot get that assumption out of your head. It is not. It is about unlawful search and seizure, denial of due process and violation of civil rights directed at Latinos ...for appearing to be Latino.
Read the 32-page Federal complaint. I provided you the link hours ago. You can even download it and read it at your leisure. The complaint is about violations of the United States Constitution and the civil rights of individuals based entirely upon their race and/or ethnicity. That's it, regardless of your personal agenda in making it about something else. Educate yourself. Read the Federal complaint. Don't argue based on invalid assupmtions, familiarize yourself with the subject of the debate.
REPLY: Don't be ridiculous. Again. it is not about arresting criminals leaving the scene of a crime (your example/analogy is silly, cynical and irrelevant to this discussion). The complaint cites broad sweeps directed at Latinos, without any probable cause other than ethnicity and physical appearance -- and violations of the First, Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution.
If you choose to remain ignorant of the substance of the complaint, despite having it easily available to you, and just persist in denial of its validity and substance without bothering to familiarize yourself with the document and its contentions, I doubt I am going to make any progress with you either. Did you even bother to read the article associated with this discussion thread? It would appear you did not, or you would understand that it is about violations of civil rights and Constitutional protections, not about "illegals."
Again Obummer is bragging about how many illegals he is expelling from INSIDE the U.S. Exactly how are these people determined to be illegals if not raiding the factories and places they work and asking all the people who could be illegals, (PROFILING) to produce documents that they are in the country legally?
so dictionary, are you saying that people should just look the other way ? i mean that is what a lot of you people seem to be complainting about. do you really expect illegal aliens to go up to joe arpaio or immigration and say " i'm an illegal alien, thought i would let you know that " wake up and smell the coffee, oh by the way i 'am hispanic and i 'm not complainting , if you have nothing to hide then it shouldn't bother you. but you and everybody knows that there are a lot of undocumented people here if you don't know that then i would not believe you .
it 's about time they get rid of that cantankerous old man. what an ego, this guy was a travel agent back in massachusetts before he landed in arizona. will be happy to see him go.
only wish they could sue that governing witch, also.
wonder what obama's take is on this? let me see, the marine was given an other than honorable discharge, the cop and the university professer were invited tothe white house for a beer, a judge was removed from his seat, the cop and the university professor were invited tothe white house for a beer, ok, why not do this? let every one suspected of racial profiling get a grip on life, get ahold of obama, for a beer in the white house. live and let live, GOOD JOB JOE!
Noelle, everytime you get stopped by an officer, you will show your ID or go to jail. Your Id or Drivers License have caveats that can show if you are a citizen or not. You have to show a birth certificate and social security card to get a drivers license in any state. I could careless if you are green, blue, orange, pick, purple or red, but if you are here without the correct paperwork and you are not a citizen, we should abide by the federal law that says you will be sent packing. Way to go Joe for not bowing to the political BS.
Let's see...the Feds are doing little or nothing to stop the army of illegal immigrants which has invaded our country so they turn around and sue a guy who is trying to do the job which they are supposed to do?
...makes sense
Joe Arpaio should be applauded, not prosecuted, for his actions
Bassai Gun sales in my state are restricted to citizens and legal residents too. Now if Holders boys had followed that law fast and furious would never have happened and the DEA agent would be taking his mom out to dinner in Brownsville Sunday instead of his mother visiting his grave.
Noelle two weekends ago I went through 2 border patrol checkpoints in Hebbronville Tx. in a space of ten minutes time period and last Saturday I went through one in Falfurrias and three weeks ago one in Sarita. I suggest that if you live in my area you carry ID because you will be asked about your citizenship or residency status. This is life on the border. BTW I am blond with hazel eyes and born in Wisconsin. Now that is the feds asking all the time. Almost none of us ever get stopped by local law for anything without cause. But I have been surrounded by BP for riding my bicycle in downtown Brownsville.
Robert you show soo much ignorance. You want to believe an agency that not only made one of the biggest illegal weapons transactons sence IranContra, by selling hundreds of illegal weapons to drug cartells in Mexico. One of these weapons were used to kill a US Bourder Patrol agent. For the past several months they have been obstructing a congressional investigation into the matter.
This suit againt Arpio is strickly political motivated by Obama. He has ordered and hindered the enforcement of the immigration laws. They may say that the enforcement has been higher now compared to the terms of prior presidents, but they are blowing smoke up everones a-hole to make him look good. There was really more enforcement during George Bush Jr's term. Hell I can't tell how many of Barrak Hussean Obama's own family is in the US illegally. Check out is uncle Omar Obama. He has been in the country illegally for several years, and was arrested about a year ago for another DWI in the upper NE United States. He is not the only one either.
This so-called investigaion by the USDOJ only started in January 2009. Over 3 years. If there was really something there this would have been filled a hell of a long time ago. The reason it was filled, is because Obama wants all these votes from illegals so he can get back in for another 4 years. Check on Youtube of his debates with Hillary Clinton, he advicated giving illegals driver's licenses. This was video of him saying it not someone else. You can read his lips saying it.
This is total bull crap! Way back in the 70s police were checking for illegals and of course when a car loaded with obvious Mexican field worker types, they were asked for thier green cards. If they didn't have them, then immigration was called and came and got them. Of course nowdays in Arizona, or anywhere along the border, this would be the type you would check if you stopped them for something else as well as those from other countries known to produce terrorists. Racial Profiling my Aunt Fanny. When a certain type is the most likely to be the perp, that is who you check not he 18 month old kid or the 95 years old Gramma. This racial profiling bull crap came out of black community organizers protesting that blacks got stopped more often than whites, particularly if they didn't live in the neighborhood. Now its mexicans, muslims wearing head scarves, every whiner in the world. I'm surprised they haven't whined that more men are stopped than women so it is gender profiling. BULL, let the police have a job to do, the liberals want to tie their hands with this profiling rediculousness. OF course this suit is purely for OBAMA trying to win the Hispanic vote. Someone should tell him that a lot of the various hispanic populations from different countries don't like each other. He and Holder just want the illegals left alone and fearing that the Supreme Court will uphold the Arizona Law requiring check of citzen ship so they are starting this racial profiling bull crap to get in front of it. Why don't they do something about real crime and the economy and terrorists and jobs and getting out of our health care and all the others things they haven't and don't seem to know how to do.
Right Robert, a complaint based on people being questioned about their immigration status is not about illegal immigration. You are the one that "wants" this to be about something it isn't. This "is" about illegal immigration but you refuse to accept that and continue on your rant about Civil Rights being violated.
If any other skeptic needs background "proof" of the allegations, the deeds of Joe Arpaio have been well covered by the local weekly alternative paper, the Phoenix New Times. Go to phoenixnewtimes-dot-com.
It has published many articles on the Maricopa County sheriff, things never reported on msnbc or any other mainstream news media. If you need any further proof of what an egotistical, bigoted, and just plain ol' crazy man he is, look no further. (As a matter of fact, Arpaio has harassed New Times reporters).
Are they going to arrest Holder and obama for their racial profiling, violation of civil rights and outright betrayal?
Provide proof of your ridiculous post. Easy to spew words... with no proof.
Sueing U.S. citizens to target the hispanic vote - racial profiling.
Requiring health insurance to live - violation of civil rights.
See above for betrayal.
Could you expand or just throwing statements out like "he's trampling on the constitution"? Got to love the teabaggers. Someone stands at a podium with a megaphone and makes stupid statements and they all parrot it.
Oh yeah, he's a Muslim too. Keep making a fool out of yourself, it's fun to watch.
Dagump - If you not familiar with the lawsuits or Obamacare that is your own fault, try "expanding" your own knowledge before commenting if you are not able to keep up.
How is requiring health insurance, and then providing it for cheap, a violation of civil rights?
You're being required to buy something merely because you're alive or pay a penalty. It is a clear violation of my rights. As far as "providing it for cheap," that's a lie. A truer statement would read something like: "I think it's cheap because my fellow taxpayers are sharing the cost of my insurance."
as far as i am concerned Holder and Obama are both traitors for not enforcing the deportation of ALL illegals. Obama took a oath to uphold the laws of the USA not to pick and choose which law he would follow. He has betrayed Americans just for votes. What else will he do??? being Illegal is a choice, so don't cry when you are deported. Sheriff Joe has supported the law not run away, like Holder and Obama
ALCON,
I haven't seen that your taxes have changed in any way, so if the government is earmarking tax dollars to make sure you and I aren't having to pay for someone who DOES NOT have insurance, bacause they can't afford it, makes much better sense.
Why should continuing to allow insurance companies to charge rates that only the very few can afford, be the better option?
I would be more concerned about those who don't want to pay their fair share in taxes, in fact that is what I am going to be more concerned with.
When is Obummer going to have his uncle from Africa deported?
Military Man.. obviously you do not know how health insurance works, nor understand the rammifications of the law that obama shoved down our throats.
the premiums for insurance are based upon research that looks at many factors ( such as women have babies, therefore they use more insurance overall then guys will) and they estimate ( or guess) based upon past performance what will be used. Which is literally a gamble because one good natural disaster and they reserve is completely blown and they lose money. Insurance companies already are regulated on how much they need to hold in reserve ( to pay for claims immediately) which means that it can not be reinvested and will make minimal if any interest. They look at the jobs the person is doing, again.. there is more risk in heavy labor then in light, though back pain is more common in sedentary jobs like secretary and customer service.
So by adding no pre existing limitations, no maximum payout, cover kids regardless of whether they are eligible for buying their own insurance, and you end up with premium increases. do you seriously think that insurance companies make a huge profit off of health insurance? they do not.
The actual business of health insurance sux when it comes to profit. the money is usually made in other areas that the insurance company is involved in that is not part of health insurance such as offering human resource services, mortgages and business loans, real estate and rent/leasing, or they move into retirement planning, disability or life insurances. Most do a combination of the above.
now..you comment about taxes being earmarked to pay for someone else having insurance so you dont have to pay.. obviously you do not understand how taxes work.. you see..you pay taxes.. taxes pay for someone else... its a short trip... so you are paying for someone else to have insurance. But the obamacare does NOT address lowering the actual cost of health CARE.. it only makes every single person who is LEGALLY in the US ( minus those pesky exceptions for people like muslims, jews, unions) purchase a private product. and even with insurance if you do not address that actual cost of care... you are only going to keep raising premiums to cover the rising costs of the actual care.. until the people who are trying to abide by the law are bancrupt and no longer able to pay taxes.. which will make the situation worse. I have good insurance.. and I still cant afford to go to the doctor unless it is going to impact my job. and even then I have to weigh how much i can get away with at work ( such as alternating what i do so i do not stand for more than a half hour at a time or my leg goes numb) against how much an office visit and some testing will cost me.
Wives fan Fast and Furious was a violation of both Texas gun sales laws and Mexican law which does not allow export of guns into Mexico and caused the death of a DEA agent who was killed with one of the guns the American government illegally exported to Mexico. We the people on the border in Texas know enough guns are illegally going into Mexico we do not need our government exporting guns to the cartels. We have enough spillover violence without their help.
First I would like to state that I think Joe Arpaio is an idiot. Secondly, I would like to remind people that MSNBC engages in racial profiling in its articles (Blaming whites for everything) on the regular. That is all.
Shhhhh... don't you know that racial profiling by liberals is really fighting "injustice" a.k.a "common sense".
I live in a county on the border with Mexico and cannot understand the fear, hatred or rhetoric that I see directed towards illegal aliens or latinos. We here have a population that is 80% on average latino. I am not latino but I do not fear my neighbors. I do not assume they are illegal. I know if you have a Texas DL or ID you must be a citizen or legal resident you have to prove it to get any DPS issued ID card. I do not fear every Mexican citizen near me most of whom speak better English than half the people on this vine including me.
Now if the Justice Department and the Obama Administration would PUT this much effort into deporting ALL Illegal Immigrants, regardless of whether or not they are a security risk to the USA, and prosecuting the employers who hire them to the fullest extent of the law instead suing the people who charged with enforing the laws at the local and State level then the USA wouldn't have an Illegal Immigration problem. GO ARIZONA!!!!!
That's not politically correct... But Obozo and Holder want the Latino vote, legal or not.
daryl - "So having the best record of illegal deportations of any president doesn't work for you?"
So you want to praise "Obama's deportations" while at the same time saying one of the people WHO ACTUALLY DOES THE DEPORTING is "racially profiling" people?
How dense are you? Sheriff Joes' deportations are Obama's deportations.
This article is not about deportations you alley cat
First off, the Justice Department doesn't deport That's Homeland Security/ICE's jurisdiction. If anything, the DOJ tried to speed the process up by telling Homeland Security and ICE that they had to deport in six months instead of holding detainees for years. And secondly, President Obama's administration is deporting everyone they consider illegal even if it was THEIR mistake on the paperwork.
M coworker's mother was deported to Germany two days before Christmas last year. She was adopted as an orphaned infant from Germany in 1945, and Immigration at the time neglected to tell her parents they had to file for citizenship for her because citizenship wasn't automatic with adoption. Early in Dec 2011 she got a call from USCIS saying that they had discovered the error (60 years later) and she was no longer a citizen despite having a birth certificate that listed her adoptive parents as her parents, a legal SS card, and DL and having passed eVerify at work. They seized her home, car, and bank account as 'civil asset forfeiture' and deported her to Germany with no money, not knowing the language, without giving her or her now-90-year-old-parents a chance to file paperwork to correct an error which USCIS freely admitted that they made in not telling them at the time. She never saw a lawyer, trial or had a hearing, they deported her and she'll have to stay n Germany for ten years before her son my coworker an apply for her to come back. in the meantime, he's now homeless because he was living with his mother while she was undergoing cancer treatment (on her nickel, not state welfare.) My coworker is hoping she will be back in time for them to celebrate her 80th birthday if she kicks the cancer.
If you remember Bush and McCain were big supporters of legalizing all these illegals and it was Reagan who gave the first pardon to them saying after that they would stop them from coming both parties have betrayed the true citizens of this country.
here, here, Tim
...how soon we forget that Bush tried and failed - twice - to shove another Reagan style amnesty down our throats
and now the latest Republican standard bearer for amnesty is none other than the boy wonder and potential vice presidential nominee from Florida - Marco Rubio
Does Joe have teeth?
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck......It's a duck!
If it lies through its teeth, moves sideways like a snake and has the courage of a hyena then it is an obama.
Obama 2012.
Daryl,
I tried to join the Army but my IQ was too high and the background check revealed my parents were actually married. Really, who has obama killed? He claims he killed Bin Laden but the only pictures we have see is him watching tv. Did he personally kill the Somali Pirates or like his Nobel Prize he was just in office at the time. When Did we authorize action in Yemen and the Sudan? I did love that quip by the ass Holder. To time the Constitution is "due process does not mean judicial process.
If you were a real soldier you would know the value of interrogating prisoners which is why the Intell Community is at odd with the Pentagon. However playing Call of Duty III on your Playstation in Mom's basement does INTO make you a "real soldier." So go clean the latrine boot.
What does Obama have to do with any of this? Just 2 more ridiculoids spewing their pointless jibberish. I'll bet you also believe that whoever this 1 person in office is, actually makes a damn bit of difference.
While all you dumazzes argue about who your boy is in the white house, the Big Pharm and Financial Institutions are bending you over and you don't even realize it.
daryl... two wrongs do not make a right and trying to justify obama taking us into further wars and bypassing congress just because others did sounds extremely juvenile... if the others jumped off a bridge would you expect him to as well?
and Obama did not kill bin laden.. the search for him was started prior to Obama was in office, just like the agreement to move our troups out of the middle east was started prior to him being in office... he just likes to take credit. ( and i cant believe you are actually applauding a president ordering wet work so publically when we are supposed to be the good guys who believe in justice, not revenge.) You act as if he pulled the trigger, and he didnt. All he did was say.. hey you lowly paid grunt.. go kill him so i can look good.
Why is it no one can just comment on the story posted without putting Obama in it. Seriously, Is your world that small that you have to blame him for you not getting out of bed on time. Stick to the issues at hand, and if you don't like him for the way (in your small view) he is running the government, then don't vote for him. But enough already...
The reason we put Obama in it is because it is his administration that is dictating the policy. Duh. And for that matter, the only reason that Obama is against immigration reform and a crack down on illegal aliens is because the Dems garner a larger share of the Latino vote and Obama needs that vote to win the next election. So yes, the topic of Obama is relavent here.
And further, this lawsuit is just a form of intimidation by the Obama administration.
daryl -
We live in a time where any disagreement or opposing viewpoint is viewed as hatred, bigotry, racism, homophobia, etc., et al. Both sides attack the opposition rather than defend their viewpoint on its merits. It's toxic and counterproductive.
That is just as true of the left.
Well Daryl,
At least my rationale is more common sense based than yours. Just because you don't agree with an approach does not mean that it is not there. Here is what many conservatives believe, and Obummer and liberals are trying to repeat the pattern.
This is not something that the modern conservatives invented, but a long-held belief.
daryl-2183015 the only thing that the democrats have to offer for 2012 is a fool, a flake and a fraud by the name of Obummer. He tried to take credit for the successful solar energy plants in Arizona and New Mexico which were designed and construction began under the Bush administration. Remember the $500,000,000 Obummer Biden guaranteed to the Finnish Electric car plant in Finland to compete with General Motors? Remember how they suckered Biden into approving the loan by telling Biden they were going to use a factory in Delaware and hire thousands of Delaware residents? Biden never checked the loan contract and the Finnish car company walked off with $500,000,000. How many American jobs did that create? Remember how Obummer ordered his agencies to stop Boeing from starting a plant in South Carolina? Remember how Obummer signed free trade agreements with Australia, New Zealand, South Korea and how many other countries when the U.S. was begging for jobs? Where do you want me to stop? How about Obummer going back to his stomping grounds and sending a team of experts to study the Urban Prep Charter Academy in Illinois that took only black boys who were failing and sent every graduate to an accredited 4 year university. Then taking that knowledge and from 20 other very successful similar schools and applying the findings to public schools. Do we hear a peep out of the sucker on improving education? NOT ONE WORD!
What the liberals forget is that nature develops its animals which includes homo sapiens to strive to better the species. When you take away incentives, desires, supply without demanding something in return then the evolutionary scale slides backwards. Giving money, programs, charity, handouts without demanding something in return, which is mostly a liberal plank in their platform, does not advance the human cause. Working hard to figure out how to help the needy and not make it an out right gift and reverse the evolutionary scale, is something that a lot of democrats and liberals refuse to consider as they want to buy VOTES! Happens all over the world and of course here in the U.S. Yes there is a shortage of jobs especially when Obummer goes around the world reducing tariffs, exporting jobs that should be held here and HE should be the leader in pumping up the all important leadership part of his job. I have seen no leadership. I have seen handouts. I have not seen how he is reducing doctor insurance premiums. I have not seen initiatives for small businesses to start up. Anyone seen anything like that out there?
Isn't Arpaio leaving his job? So why spend millions on a lawsuit if its over? Now he will have to stay to fight the lawsuit and cost Arizona millions to defend him and cost the federal government millions to start and continue it? AND IT IS OUR MONEY, THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY!
hmm profiling for illeagal mexicans. Not sure but, wouldnt you look for people that look Mexican. This lawsuit is revenge for the sheriff showing beyond reasonable doubt the BC is fraudulent, along with diecrepancies on the selective service card the SSN from Conn. o is a traitor and only enforces the law when it suits him. The rest of the time hes serving his masters. The FBI uses profiling to find criminals so what is the difference?The difference is tax payer funded activists try to divert attention from the fact they are here illeagally which makes them criminals. live in Phoenix and am aware of the sheriff's record in the past however, he has all my respect for showing what a fraud o is. No matter how much the lame stream media ignores this the truth is o is a fraud, failure and traitor.
seano, it's ok to arrest people who "look Mexican" but turn out to be born & raised American citizens? Did you read the complaints in the lawsuit from American citizens who were wrongfully arrested on suspicion of being illegal aliens for no other reason than the fact that they weren't white enough?
If you actually do live in Phoenix, you probably know that nearly 1/3 of the population of this state are Mexican-Americans. Some of them come from families that were here long before the white man ever set foot in Arizona. If you don't think police harassment and bogus arrests of any of those 1/3 of our citizens simply because of their ethnic and racial "look" is illegal, then I suggest you read up on the law.
If you're telling the truth and you really do live here, you probably also know we have a few hundred thousand Native Americans living in this state, and white people who are not anthropologists or racial experts often mistake them for Mexicans.
Now there's an irony -- you trying to defend the so-called rights of a white cop, descended from immigrants, to harass and arrest a true Native American because to the non-anthropologist cop, that Indian looked like a Mexican, and if he's a Mexican, there's a chance he might be an illegal alien. Better violate his civil rights and abuse him for a day or two in the county jail until we find out for sure whether he's one of us, a citizen, or not.
You sir, like your beloved law-bending sheriff, are part of the problem.
dictionary -- my sister lives in Phoenix and told me that Arpaio is running for re-election, so I think the answer to your question is "no, he is NOT leaving" (at least he's trying to stay in his job, if the voters re-elect him).
This is the only source I have on this fact, so if someone knows different (anyone locally in Arizona ought to know) please correct me if I'm wrong.
30% of Arizona's population is of Latino origin (and legally here). That doesn't count the illegals there who are Latino. If it happens that they are putting themselves in a position to be stopped for something, the Feds would have a certain percent ignored and let to do whatever it was they were doing? What percentage, and which are to be ignored? The article conviently leaves out the data as to why they are being stopped.
daryl
This article makes no mention of a pregnant woman. Where did you dig up that info??
daryl... so who was the woman? why did she not go to the hospital afterwards if she was slammed belly first into the hood of a car and left in a non airconditioned backseat of a car while 5 months pregnant? why did she not file a lawsuit against the police officers? you see without all of this information this person... becomes no one. and anyone can make this up or enhance it when needed. kinda like Obama's stories when he was campaigning the first time... all those people he "knew" who were in the same situation as the rest of the world
This is diversionary tactics because Obama does not want anyone actually paying attention to what he is doing. sadly its working.
For those who support this idiot, I ask you ONE thing. Do you think you would be so supportive if you, your kid, etc happened to be stopped for no reason, arrested, etc JUST because you were a white American??? Try wearing the shoe. I'm NOT for allowing illegals, but what are you saying about latinos who are here legally???? I think you would take a different tone.
For those who oppose because they are told to do so, who has arrested without warrant? Who has he stopped without cause? You are listening to a rabble. Three times the DOJ has investigated the Sheriff's Office of Maricopa County.. what did they find. A lot of innuendo and accusations that could not be founded. However , now in time for the election, obama is suddenly gay marriage and this guy is being sued on some ambiguous claim?
If the reason for this is not transparent for you their is no hope. This is nothing but abuse of power by the obama administration. That is why they had to go through the "Civil Rights Division" of Holder's DOJ. Which by the way, is made up in large part of the very lawyers that defended the terrorists in Gitmo.
Almost all who comment here do not live in his county, no idea what it's like there, maybe never been anywhere near that spot of this country. Amazing how so many opinions can be leveled against based on what....media reports? The feds have done a horrible job helping our border states with these issues, and lately, they've prefered to focus there attention on those trying to serve Americam interest instead of focusing on the real issue behing it all.
Is his county not in America? Where is then, Gooberland?
No
wives fan - "Do you think you would be so supportive if you, your kid, etc happened to be stopped for no reason, arrested, etc JUST because you were a white American??? "
Yea, you never see cops pulling over white guys in the ghetto because they suspect them of being there to buy drugs... and you never see black guys stopped in rich neighborhoods because they suspect them of being there to rob someone, and young people are never asked for I.D. based on how they look... it's called common sense; to ignore it and pretend you know absoultly nothing about your surroundings or about people is stupid (liberalism).
pjam09 just answered his own question. Let him fester on it. In time he will see the break down in logic in his argument.
Daryl
Always the actions of a loser... name-calling a blaming others. I see why you are such a big obama fan and the quip about the Army explains a lot too. Go ahead but you know full well that this is the third investigation into this guy and found nothing. Its out of the Chicago play book, we saw in in 2009 when they launched over 200 lawsuits against Sarah Palin only to have them all thrown out. That is how pathetic the left is. They cannot debate on reason they just polish the tactics of a five-year-old.
You know good and well that Holder is doing this on obama's instruction to court the Latino vote. Home some day you pass the ASVAB and you can get into the Army.
My white teenage daughter was questioned by police because she was dropping off a friend from school (also white) who happened to live in a neighborhood that was "questionable". They were sitting in the car talking for a few minutes when the cop came up to make sure a drug deal wasn't going on. They were profiled due to their age and the neighborhood. As soon as the cop saw that nothing illegal was happening, everyone went on their way. Get over it. It happens. And not just to hispanics!
if my kid was stopped for no reason I would expect that we would file a complaint, and depending on the severity of the situation we would file a law suit... which surprisingly there are not a ton floating around involving all of those examples that holder listed in his lawsuit...
TFNJ, I'm used to Toejam and his posts... really unbelieveably stupid posts. Never any proof. Just a lot of bile spewing forth. When you DO present proof to disprove him, he just obfuscates even more.
For instance I'll ask Navyvet (which is doubtful he even is) for proof of "over 200 lawsuits" by I suppose Obamas secret police since he is trying to tie it into Chicago, hence Obama. But he won't. He'll just post more drivel.
Its like reading the GOP version of the Daily Globe, I know. I don't believe any of that nonsense. People like that make it clear that it's smarter to vote for Obama.
Daryl, Ram... you don't know WTF you're talking about. Try living where communities have turned to trash dumps, jobs have disappeared and crime has risen to astronomical levels... all due to illegal immigration.
SB1070 wasn't about racism, it was about forcing the feds to DO THEIR JOB and keep illegal immigrants out of the country, keep them from having anchor babies to leech off the state (and fed). It doesn't matter if you're white, black, asian, latino or any other race.
IF YOU ARE HERE ILLEGALLY, YOU ARE AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT. PERIOD.
While I find Arapiao personally repugnant, at least he's actually DOING something, other than pandering to the latest trend in reverse-racial discrimination. You can't blame the police for 'racist profiling' when over 80 percent of the local population is hispanic... seriously? Just how do you expect them to do their jobs?
"Ooops, sorry, Mr. Smith- we couldn't question or arrest that suspicious looking guy hanging out in your yard at 2:00 AM because he's hispanic looking... wouldn't want to 'racially profile' anyone. Sorry about your house being broken into, your wife raped and beaten and the bullet that got put in your brain from an assault weapon purchased by a Mexican drug cartel/coyote operation. Gotta look out for the 'rights' of the illegals, right? Right? Mr. Smith?"
If the feds want to investigate abuses of power, they should try cleaning their own houses first.
And YOU should try finding out FACTS instead of spouting the latest popular hyperbole. Don't worry, I'll wait while you look up the big words... or should I have written this in Spanish; the new national language of choice?
If an illegal immigrant can take your job, then I have to ask what you have done all your life that your direct competitors are illegal immigrants.
TFNJ -
A. You pay taxes and have insurance so your salary needs to be more than an illegal will work for.
B. You are amongst the RECORD number of unemployed teens who have no job experience.
What have you done all your life that makes you so hateful and naive?
There is nothing hateful in my posts. I worked hard to get where I am. I am not in direct competition with the guy outside doing the lawn for a job. If that truth hurts, so be it. Maybe there is a correlation between study and supporting Joe's actions? Regardless, it doesn't make it right.
TFNJ - you do have a hateful outlook on life. You are just a spiteful person. Someone take your job, rain on your wheaties? Hmmm ... let's give this a think.
Think all you want. Its a cold truth. I notice a trend on what type of people defend a sherriff like this and his actions. If that makes me hateful, or scorned, or bad, so be it.
I will bet you don't hold back in other articles.... am I wrong?
I'm just sayin... If you are at a job interview standing shoulder to shoulder with an illegal immigrant, and the interviewer has to ponder and go hmmm, that might tell you something..
Me thinks Texas grace doesn't understand that I'm trying to make a point, and contrary to what she thinks, I'm not knocking what people do for a living.
Deport high school kids!!!
No seriously, I had a rough time after the crash as well. Sticking to lower end jobs until it gets better. The economy is bad, times are tough, and illegal immigrants have nothing to do with it.
Believe me Daryl, I know. I work in IT and live in New Jersey. It is an open door for IT consultants from India
An even if you aren't here illegally, even if you were born here, have a birth certificate that says you were born here, and at least one parent is a US citizen, ICE can still declare you illegal and deport you.
Thomas Warziniack was born in Minnesota and grew up in Georgia, but immigration authorities pronounced him an illegal immigrant from Russia. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has held Warziniack for weeks in an Arizona detention facility with the aim of deporting him to a country he's never seen. His jailers shrugged off Warziniack's claims that he was an American citizen, even though they could have retrieved his Minnesota birth certificate in minutes and even though a Colorado court had concluded that he was a U.S. citizen a year before it shipped him to Arizona.
Ernesto Galarza, a New Jersey-born U.S. citizen of Puerto Rican descent who was held illegally for three days in the Lehigh County Prison. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents ordered his detention, erroneously believing he was an undocumented immigrant from the Dominican Republic. Galarza’s Social Security card and Pennsylvania driver’s license were in his wallet at the time of his arrest and in the prison’s possession during his detention. Galarza was not told why he was being held for nearly three days. “I was shocked and upset that they assumed I am an immigrant. No one bothered to check or ask me about it. It’s clear that they only reason they decided I’m Dominican is because I’m Latino,” said Galarza. “I was born in New Jersey, and I’m a proud American. This isn’t how Americans should be treated. It’s like getting slapped in the face."
According to her birth certificate, Diane Williams was born in Metairie, La., on Aug. 23, 1974. So Williams was shocked on Jan. 18 when, hours after she was released from a Houston jail on prostitution charges, immigration agents showed up at her apartment and arrested her, saying she was a deportable alien. "I had a copy of my birth certificate, but they said they didn't know if it was real or not," she said. Williams, who has bipolar disorder, was denied medication during her three weeks in ICE detention, according to her Houston lawyer, Lawrence Rushton. On Feb. 9, she was deported to Honduras, where she spent nearly two months. Eventually, the U.S. Embassy in Tegucigalpa issued Williams a temporary passport, after her mother sent documents proving her identity. On March 31, she flew back to New Orleans. "I've had citizens who end up being detained," Rushton said, "but this is the first case where I've seen someone deported who's clearly and obviously a U.S. citizen."
Houston chef Leonard Robert Parrish, 52, ran afoul of a law intended for illegal immigrants. The Brooklyn-born Parrish went down to the Harris County Sheriff's Office in September to clear up a problem over a couple of bounced checks. He wound up in jail on immigration charges. He was strip-searched and spent 12 hours in custody. "The deputy told me I had a foreign accent," Parrish recalled. "I told him I had an East Coast accent. He said, 'It sounds like a foreign accent to me.'" A 2008 Texas law required a person's citizenship status be linked to his driver's license. A sheriff's deputy told Parrish he was detained because when they ran his driver's license information through their computer, it said that his citizenship status was 'unknown.' "I served on a murder jury in Texas and they can't find out I'm a citizen?" asked Parrish. "I'm still fighting.... Nobody wants to take responsibility for locking me up for no reason."
Hans Joachim Keil was arrested in Dutton in September and accused of being an illegal alien. He was an official representative of Samoa, a current Member of Parliament and a prominent businessman with many family links. He had diverted to Missouri on the way home from trade talks in Brussels where he represented Samoa. “They were going to lock me up for five years plus five years. Five years for impersonating a US citizen and five years for using an illegal US passport. On the day of my arrest when I brought to their attention, that I served in the US military … they threw that out the window and said that I’m an illegal alien and I have no right to be in the United States. They knew I was a Samoan diplomat but they had no regard for my diplomatic passport.”
Mr. George Ibarra, 46, was born in Mexico but was raised since infancy in Arizona. In his late 20s he enlisted in the Marines and served three years on active duty, including time in Iraq, before being honorably discharged. On February 23, 2011 Department of Justice adjudicator Richard Phelps ruled in Eloy, Arizona that George Ibarra had by a preponderance of the evidence proven that he is indeed a citizen of the United States. Rather than apologize to Mr. Ibarra for previously wrongfully detaining him, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is holding Mr. Ibarra in solitary confinement at the Eloy Detention Center, in clear violation of the U.S. Constitution and a memorandum requiring Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to release anyone with "probative evidence" of U.S. citizenship.
The son of a decorated Vietnam veteran, Hector Veloz is a U.S. citizen, but in 2007 immigration officials mistook him for an illegal immigrant and locked him in an Arizona prison for 13 months. Veloz had to prove his citizenship from behind bars. An aunt helped him track down his father's birth certificate and his own, his parents' marriage certificate, his father's school, military and Social Security records. After nine months, a judge determined that he was a citizen, but immigration authorities appealed the decision. He was detained for five more months before he found legal help and a judge ordered his case dropped.
When Angela Boneva, a 34 year old, went to renew her passport in 2003, the State Department told her she was no longer a citizen. Boneva's father was born in Indiana, and the US consulate in Bulgaria gave her U.S. citizenship while she was growing up in Bulgaria in 1981.The State Department said that an employee at the consulate broke a rule that required her father to have lived in the U.S. for 10 years before she was born, the Tribune reported. Her father had only lived in the U.S. for six years before his parents moved to Bulgaria.
Lack of proper training of immigration inspectors resulted in their mistaken conclusion that Sharon McKnight’s passport was fraudulent. McKnight spent eight days in Jamaica before returning to New York. While there, her luggage, containing all her money, was stolen. Airport workers contributed money so she could reach family members. Once there, her mother flew to Jamaica from New York to take her case to the US consulate in Kingston. With the help of Rep. Michael Forbes (D-NY), consulate officials determined that the passport and birth certificate, which immigration officials had declared fraudulent, were in fact real, and established McKnight’s US citizenship.
I do live in AZ...and i cant think of any good reason to support arpaio...from his arresting judges without cause or evidence because they ruled against him (doing their jobs), to the many instances of the felony posse (its full of convicted felons) simply detaining anyone with brown skin and sorting out who is an American and who isnt later...he treats the Constitution like its toilet paper, and we can do so much better. Keep in mind, there are HUNDREDS OF PEDOPHILES running around because he prioritized his political investigations ahead of them!!! 432 sex crimes went un investigated...these facts alone should appall any decent citizen.
Well daryl-2183015, that explains why you're full of horsesh!t all the time.
lol...
Then the Feds need to sue themselves (US Border Patrol) for the same thing. I drive through a BP check point atleast once a week and just get flaged through (yes I am anglo). My wife who is Puerto Rican gets stopped and asked her citizenship everytime she goes through the same check point alone. Why else would they stop her but wave me through if they weren't using racial profiling.
Puerto Rico is relatively poor so the odds of her being illegal are greater than someone from a wealthier European nation - it's economic reality.
OMG pjam, I was going to leave you alone since you clearly cannot keep up. Puerto Rico is a territory of the US. His wife CAN NOT be illegal. Are you seriously here arguing American politics?
His point is her skin tone gets her stopped, not that she is Puerto Rican.
Puerto Ricans are US citizens, so it is imposible for her to be illegal.
Thank you TFNJ
You are welcome. I was going to "debate" with pjam a little longer, then spring it on him that I am Puerto Rican. I KNOW he assumed otherwise. People like him have a mental picture of Hispanics as little guys with big hats, can't speak English, and will submit to whatever inappropriate behavior Sheriff Joe wants to impose on them.
And when you live 30 miles from the Mexican border like my wife and I you can expect to be questioned about your citizenship if you have brown skin, it's just common sense. My wife understands it and is why it doesn't really bother her. Would she prefer it didn't have to happen, sure, but she understands the reality of it.
Ok, but are your kids more likely to have a negative view of law enforcement? If a son goes out with his friends and the police come over to question him alone, wouldn't he dislike it and start to believe the police are bullies? Our kids should not have to go through that any more than everyone else.
I don't want "illegal" immigrants here either, but not at the expense of everyone else's freedom.
No, I'm sorry but they don't we have 4 kids and we talk to them about thing so they understand the situation. 3 of our kids look more like me and one more like her mother. But through an open discussion with our kids on subjects like this, they understand that if they fit the profile then they will be questioned. All of our kids carry not only a state ID (because 2 of them haven't gotten their DL yet) but we got them the Passport card to carry so proving citizenship is easy for them.
Actually Obama/Holder have deported more illegals than all other administrations combined (or course it is the law of averages at work here - we have more than past years). In actuality Bush was 'softer' on illegal immigration.
H25, what has that got to do with this particular discussion of racial profiling?
I'm sorry, but I think its sad that they have to accept that they will be treated differently. I'm not saying they should revolt, but certainly not be in agreement with any law that singles them out. I can tell my kids the same, but they would surely one day ask me why. Cause you are not white or black? Is that my answer? I think Arizona needs to find another solution to this problem. A problem I might add that is not just in Arizona.
Respectfully
Matter of fact, adding a little humor to the post as well, I'm surprised your wife, being Puerto Rican, can contain the hot blood levels and not go off about this.. :)
What I explain to my kids, and they see it as well for themselves, is that we have a problem with illegal immigration and since we live on the border with Mexico, the majority of the illegal immigrants that we have to deal with are from Mexico. In order to deal with the problem on the southwest border you have to understand that they are looking for people from Mexico, and if you happen since you happen to have Hispanic traits you can expect that at some point you may have to show proof of citizenship. Which is why I provided them with a passport card that they can easily produce and then go their own way. I might add that they have never had to use them and when my wife is stopped at the BP check they ask her citizenship and in clear English she says American or US and they just wave her on. I have seen that if someone speaks in broken English, they are asked for ID or proof of citizenship if they can't produce it they are detained until their status can be determined. Everyone in this country legally are required to have some sort of ID on them if they don't then they are detained until ID can be verified. Everyone in this country legally from another country are required to carry proof that they are here legally. I don't see a problem with that when I travel to Mexico, which is frequently I make sure I carry my passport and have it stamped showing that I am there legally, it's just common sense.
As far as my wife's hot blood levels, cold water works wonders, but seriously she understands the problem herself she is in public service and sees it on a daily basis.
Nothing wrong with being checked at the BP. I myself have been mistaken for all sorts of nationalities. Mainly Egyptian. So I understand a BP agent making sure. But within my own country, that shouldn't happen. If I violate the law, check away. But just from my look? No thanks. I was born and raised here, and served in the Marine Corp. I think I have earned the right to freely travel this country without being singled out. And my kids should not either. I can understand that you are being understanding to the problem at hand, but to me its an inconvenience at least. At most it would lead to neighbors calling you foreigner and other gossip that makes life awkward.
Arizona Chris said "While I find Arapiao personally repugnant, at least he's actually DOING something."
I'm sure there were several Germans in 1936 who said the same thing about Goering, Goebbels, Hitler et al. before their ability to speak up about these folks was completely irradicated.
Although I am not a resident of Maricopa County, or even AZ, my mother and brother are. I visit at least monthly. I admit that even though I am not brown skinned, I drive extra carefully, watch my speed etc while there, cause I dont want to end up in Joe's tents, cause I know that the rainbow pin I wear on my hat will prompt Joe & his version of the SA to treat me exactly as he does the Latino folks he encounters. I too hope that he's in his own pair of pink undies soon!
vs Americans who since 2008 can only find their "leader" repugnant as he doesn't do anything for them.
Are you actually trying to compare this to the holocaust. Sorry but that is absolutely insane if you actually believe that there is any comparison.
michelle, not that I'm comparing this to the holocaust, but remember at first the Nazis simply removed Jews from their neighborhoods and deported them. It starts somewhere.
Of course Joe is a complete idiot, you can tell by all of the other knuckle-draggers comments ("You're doing a great job Joe" duh!) that support him . His brain-dead policies are just what the nut jobs in Arizona want. I suspect he wears pink underwear already, and liked it so much, he made then all wear it too. Racist like him are getting just what they deserve! I would venture that we won't be hearing too much more about Arpaio, as it's about time for him to retire to Mexico. And believe me, Democrats have absolutely no worries about Latino voters, as Mittens is just a better lookin Joe Arpaio!
--12% of AZ workers are estimated to be illegal. Illegals are 10% of AZ pop. and commit 22% of the felonies. More than 80% of AZ illegals are Latino. How are the the police are going to find the illegal people? They "may not solely consider race, color,or national origin" when implementing SB1070. They have to wait for more crime to be committed and then try to find the perpetrators meanwhile, the CIS estimated that 1/3 of illegal headed households used at least one major welfare program. So what should Arizona do just give up and take it? Given the financial and criminal aspect of the illegal problem, I understand Joe for attempting to take a stand that our federal government refuses to do adequately-that of enforcing our laws. The individual police may have "unfairly targeted Latinos for traffic stops" but how big of an issue is that--numbers-wise I mean? It is always a big issue to the individual involved of course. This is a rock and a hard place for Arizona.
With all the B.S. going on at the federal level you would think the feds time would be better spent cleaning up their own back yard. I feel Sheriff Joe has done more to see that his arrests do not repeat their crimes. GO SHERIFF JOE!!!!!!
I don't particularly care for Joe's personality but I like his methods. As a matter of fact, I can't wait to see how Janet Napolitano's Homeland Security handles these Underwear Bombers? No Profiling Huh?? What are ya gonna do, focus on those Fanatical Swede's and Dane's??......Hahahahaha...What a Joke! No Profiling huh? This "No Profiling" crap needs to be revisited. We still have a particular group of individuals, of a certain ethnic background, who want to blow our passenger planes out of the sky and they ain't Swedes, Danes, Irish, Fins, Eskimos or Swiss or any other light skinned or OTHER non Middle Eastern looking individuals. So tell me again how you DON'T FOCUS ON THEM???
Certainly you have to look at the big picture but NOT at the expense of giving in to some politically correct mound of crap! PROFILE THEM!.........
hmmm Profiling. You border mexico, where they stream across the border like cockroaches and you wonder why they are looking for Mexicans to be illegal?
Its not profiling, its statistics.
If it was against another country, they would be crying profiling also.
I would be happy if we use the same policies they use for illegal, but oh no, we cant do that.
okay, from now on....only illegal chinese can be arrested and deported if they are caught in arizona
(we are tired of getting sued by the obama)
With the new fad about having your vehicle's windows darken, it it utterly amazing how you can identify a person even to the point of the gender.
This sheriff is my hero. Since the federal government is turning a blind eye and ignoring the insanity that is happening on Arizona's border then let the sheriff do his job and protect his area from the freeloading crimigrants flooding the border. Every legal alien should take offense to the scumbags coming here and sucking off the system. Of course he is racially profiling. If Ireland was to our south he would be checking Irish status and profiling them. Since its Mexico then guess what, he is targeting mexicans since they are the problem.
pjam09....I am assuming your name is short for Pearl Jam? If it is..you should go home and burn all your PJ stuff because they wouldn't want you as a fan anyway...they stand against your point of view big time...but whatever...you keeping loving a liberal band without understanding any of it...kind of makes everything you say seem dumb yes? Can't wait to hear what you say it really stands for.
OMG good point. I will wait for that as well.
Love Pearl jam.
Pearl Jam is awesome! :) I love how LIBERAL they are....lol!!!
I love the Liberal Lyrics. lol
Latino is not a race. The US Census Bureau says so. Therefore the Justice department's claim of racism falls on its face based on the classifications developed by the federal government itself. BTW, why isn't Justice suing the FBI. They employ Profilers. In fact every effective police force does.
The US Department of Justice is doing there job by putting a stop to Sheriff Joe Arpaio racism and unethical behavior. Sheriff Arpaio thinks by bellitleing people by racism,tents, and pink underwear is patriotism Sheriff you are totally wrong it is based on respect to get respect back.
We support sheriff JOE 100%. Atleast he is doing somthing where the federal govt. is not. Too much of a political hot potato.
NO-BAMA12: yOU CAN KEEP HIM...we've got Larry Deaver down south, we call him Joe, Jr. Both of them are racist, hate-filled bigots. When the Monument fire was burning down everything in sight, Larry ranted and raved about "illegals" starting it (may have happened, but there was no hard proof). It was no surprise to any of us that when the Wallow fire burned thousands of acres up north, no one...not Larry or Joe...talked about the legal white guys, cousins, that started that one.
Let me see, a man that is under investigation for providing guns to drug lords and not tracking them (Holder) that got a border agent killed is being put in charge of investigating a sheriff's department that is trying to enforce Federal Laws. Only in America and under this regime. Keep it the good work!
You have got to stop believing Rush. There is no Federal law that allows for profiling. Which Federal law are they enforcing? If someone is here illegally the only legal way to determine that is when you have a lawful detainer Not this "stop a black or brown for a frisk" program he run. and BTW the gun program follwed Mr. Bush's program. Did you not like it when he was doing it? The BATF and US Attorney were running the day to day when this ran off the road. Do you blame them too?
First of all I don't listen to Rush. Secondly, Fast and Furious was under your man's watch. Thirdly , you need to get another tingle down your leg as Chris Matthews does when speaking of your Messiah.
EXACTLY - Why is HOLDER not in a cell awaiting trial for numerous felonies such as racketeering, extortion, perjury, 1st degree murder (Oklahoma City bombing). obstruction of Justice?
We ARE IN TROUBLE BECAUSE THE MAFIA CRIMINALS ARE IN CHARGE !!!!!!!!!
Holder is one of the worst c*nts in our nations history a blight to America.
Amen, brother! Only in America! Let's get serious---we all know that the only reason the Feds are after Joe is because he has had a problem with Obama's birth certificate from day one. I, along with a large majority of Americans, have the same problem. Joe does not believe that Obama was born in Hawaii, and has set out to prove it. Obama's own grandmother said that he was born in Africa. Of course, that was before Obama managed to hush her up. The Feds want to hush up Joe's ionvestigation, and they, under Holder's direction, will do anything to accomplish this. Everyone knows that Holder is just one of Obama's many kingpins. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK JOE.