I support their cause, but not their tactics. Such behavior only detracts from the anti-war message.

Do they get to function under the "Occupy" rules that have been favorable to these types of actions?

To..Rick""""

No it wasn't......just look at the mess repubs created when repubs controlled the congress .. the senate and the white house from 2003 to 2007...and if we were losing 700,000 jobs a month at the end of bush's term ..and if only 3 million jobs were created in bush's eight years ...well

It was the democrats and their policies put in place in the 90s that ran the country into the ground.

How so? In 2000, under Bill Clinton, the US had a budget SURPLUS OF over $236 billion.

As Catholic Workers, we serve the poor by practicing the works of mercy — feeding the hungry, sheltering the homeless, taking care of the sick and the works of war are directly opposed to that.

More people that wont be voting for Romney... :)

Sam: that would be the Clinton agreement with the republican congress... correct?

That's why Hillary would have made a better president than the amateur we have now. I wouldn't have supported her either, but she has more of a pair than Pres. Obama and (at least by marriage) a history of working with the other side of the aisle. The current President knows nothing more than the politics of division. It's the worst I've seen in my six decades of life. Whatever happened to Truman and Kennedy type Democrats. I used to be one of those, but the Democratic leadership abandoned us long ago.

Spoken like one who is significantly uninformed, and unwilling to become informed. Why don't you investigate, rather than pontificating? Or are you one of Obama's sheep?

Ah, how soon we forget! :-)

Whatever happened to the Separation of Church and State?

And maybe, just maybe, if the Catholic Workers want to fight poverty, they should, just maybe, encourage poor people to use contraceptives, so they won't be having children they can't support.

Dictator Obama panders to the Occupy protestors... but when he is the one being protested there is zero tolerance, and they didn't even take over public use areas or set up shanty towns.

"demonstrators danced and sang folk songs and gospel, and handed rolls to commuters"

Amunaka~ Your numbers don't add up..........

Amunaka #1.4,

And whose watch was it when derivatives reared its ugly head ?

Ever hear of Brooksley Born ? You should watch Frontline.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/view/

To..Old"""'

Working with the other side of the aisle..with who the no compromise republicans

Rick-312779.........you said:

Quote......It was the democrats and their policies put in place in the 90s that ran the country into the ground.......EndQuote

Are you referring to the 1890's or the 1990's ? Do you recall that reversing democrat initiatives taken during the 90's was a major concern of Bush/Cheney when they controlled the HOR and Senate during their first administration?

Perhaps you do recall the endless stream of sub-prime mortgage loan advertisements on TV during the Bush/Cheney years......and, the constant barrage of credit card solicitations "regardless of credit history". Then, there's the fact that Bush/Cheney, although made fully aware of their implications for our economy, turned a deaf ear to concerns over completely unregulated financial instruments such as credit default swaps.

You folks may think you can reinvent history to absolve yourselves of blame. It isn't going to happen. The evidence (against you) is too clear and so easily available. Just wait. You (and the rest of this nation) will be reminded.

Whatever happened to the Separation of Church and State?

You're referring to the wrong part of the correct amendment.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

To..Pepster"""""

Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record

By WSJ Staff

January 9, 2009,

President George W. Bush entered office in 2001 just as a recession was starting, and is preparing to leave in the middle of a long one. That’s almost 22 months of recession during his 96 months in office.\

His job-creation record won’t look much better. The Bush administration created about three million jobs (net) over its eight years, a fraction of the 23 million jobs created under President Bill Clinton‘s administration and only slightly better than President George H.W. Bush did in his four years in office.

Here’s a look at job creation under each president since the Labor Department started keeping payroll records in 1939. The counts are based on total payrolls between the start of the month the president took office (using the final payroll count for the end of the prior December) and his final December in office.

Because the size of the economy and labor force varies, we also calculate in percentage terms how much the total payroll count expanded under each president. The current President Bush, once taking account how long he’s been in office, shows the worst track record for job creation since the government began keeping records. –

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/

Once again, right message, wrong target. The President didn't start the two unfunded wars he inherited. GBII and the GOP did that. Where were they when those wars drug into year six?

Obama/Biden 2012

It's ok for the OWS to do this sort of crap but anyone else it is just horific. Blame it on Bush why don't you libbies...

To..Gordon.."""

Wasn't deregulation of derivatives pushed by the republicans ....

Skip, normally I would agree with you, but Obama has the option to fully withdraw all troops and has not. By the way, his is still a MUCH better alternative than the garbage the GOP is trying to run, but this is one area where I totally disagree with him.

Gee, I think they stormed the wrong headquarters.....didn't they mean to go to the Republican headquarters? They're the ones that are taking food out of the mouths of babes, etc., etc., etc.

It was the democrats and their policies put in place in the 90s that ran the country into the ground.

Look at a national debt graph. The whole thing started with Reagan. However almost EVERYONE is responsible, even YOU if you voted Republicrat all these years. People vote the same two parties in year after year as the country continues to slide. Who's fault is it really? It's our fault.

It is good to be involved, but look at this group; if given a IQ test, the mean average would be about the same as a chimpanzee.

Is there a problem with Workers Movement? I don't know about the rest of you but the moment I read Workers I read Socialist Workers, Communist Workers. The Catholic is almost incidental. The movement has little or nothing to do with the Catholic Church and everything to do with far left wing politics. As to the rest of the harangues and nonsense that has absolutely nothing to do with the article, I wish you people would just shut up and go home. It just annoys me that every article, every discussion is immediately taken over by trolls and ignorant and superficial idiots spouting their political agendas.

I don't get it. How is it okay for the Occupy people to do this kind of stuff? I suppose you consider getting shot in the head with gas cannisters, harrassed and arrested before even going to protest, being spied on by the government requisitioning online activity and phone activity, riot police, getting pepper-sprayed during a protest that is perfectly legal and non-threatening, and other similar events "getting away with it?"

8 protesters were arrested, and from the looks of it, they were 8 that barged into a place they weren't supposed to be. The rest were left to sing songs and make merry or whatever.

And no, I don't think civil disobedience is a bad thing. It's won out in a lot of battles in the past. Thinking of the sit-ins during the Civil Rights Movement, the refusals to obey the Jim Crow laws, the anti-war protests of Vietnam, etc. They can get out of hand, yes, but they are particularly effective at raising consciousness and elevating efforts. This particular instance? Meh, I don't know. With Iraq over in name and Afghanistan winding down, there's only the "little" spots that never make news (or if they do, it's buried in the name of economical interest for the 'news'). It would be better if they were drawing attention to, say, covert (read: illegal) drone attacks in Yemen, challenges to sovereign nations, etc. Since none of that made the news, only a general statement, it's hard to say whether these protesters were capable of accomplishing anything. But still, power to the people.

pjam,

No, the protesters took over a PRIVATE office building with more tenents besides the Obama campaign. Big difference.

Armando,

The right to peaceably assemble has been interpreted any number of times to insist that such assembly cannot block access to property or occupy private property without the owner's permission

To all,

I am a Christian. I don't like the idea of war. But, I am also an adult living in the real world. The real world is not always influenced by breaking bread together or acts of mercy. Indeed, many in the real world see these things as acts of weakness and vulnerability to be exploited. Where was the RC church in WWII? In Viet Nam? In Uganda? In Darfur? Call me jaded, but I suspect the real issue here is the pending budget cuts, which may negatively affect government aid funneled through RC charities which employs these workers.

Amunaka #1.21,

It was WJC's "crew" that pigeonholed Brooksley Born and then let derivatives run wild without proper control. These derivatives were tied into mortgages for homes, which created even more problems, that we are still trying to clean up. There were many other problems during this period and much of them are still with us.

Clearly the misuse of derivatives and the efforts to get people into houses that they couldn't afford will haunt us for decades to come.

@ Amunaka and the Democrats;

You do know if you just strain the mind of yours just a little by reading some history you would come to the conclusion that during the Clinton Admin it was a republican controlled congress, you know the part of the government that pass bills, you would also know if it wasn't for those republicans you and every american would have been taxed higher on heating oil, fuel, Recieved Social Security Checks but it was the evil Republicans that stopped that from happening and gave this nation a surplus. Now under Bush we had an unemployment rate of 6.6 percent, and the last two years of Bush's second term the Democrats had control of both houses. It wasn't until last November that the Democrats lost control to the Republicans, because with full control the Democrats can't get anything done. So let me see, what is better a party that sits and collects lucrative paychecks and accomplishes nothing, or a party that is saying no to load of BS after load of BS. Try to get your facts straight, also if you stop drinking that kool-aid it might help. But I fear when it comes to most of you, you didn't just drink the kool-aid you went head first and pretty much drowned yourselves in it. That is all, Carry on!

I have no idea why so many liberals keep repeating lies over and over. There was NO surplus of money under Clinton. The only surplus was that the govt was taking in more money than they spent. But the country was still deep in debt and always has been.

Check out the facts before ignorantly repeating what you hear from other liberals....

We got it from Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum. Both of them claimed credit for the budget surplus that Congress gave us during the Clinton Administration. Enjoy.. When are you righities going to CHECK the facts first.

Newt Gingrich Calls Out Rick Santorum's Record

Rick Santorum became the third-highest ranking Republican in the Senate in 2001 at a time when Republicans inherited balanced budgets, surpluses, and conservative, pro-life majorities. Senator Santorum and his big spending GOP allies proceeded to squander this inheritance.

http://catchkevin.com/gingrich-calls-out-santorum/

P.S.

The only surplus was that the govt was taking in more money than they spent. But the country was still deep in debt and always has been.

When you are taking in MORE money than you spent.. THAT IS A SURPLUS!.
Spend $1
Take in $2
= $1 Dollar Surplus..

Interesting litmus test. Anti - Obama policy yet definitely anti - Republican principles. Anti war and pro social (and Christian morality). I believe that they have legitimate points of view and welcome their protests as I do the Occupy movement's.

sam-adams... LOL!!! Surplus under Clinton!!! ROFLMAO!!!

The mythical Clinton surplus, created by stealing money from Social Security and cooking the books, has been debunked so often I can't believe anyone would dare bring it up.

You have totally discredited yourself, sir.

hs321 - Beats stealing from Social Security and still running a deficit... like his successor.

Apologies to the group but Obama can't speak with you right now. He is too busy raising money for his campaign with singer Ricky Martin. Yes, that Ricky Martin. He is in the 1% and.....

This just proves that everything is calculated with Obama. Everything is a set up. Why the people who are out of a job, paying high food prices, paying high gas prices, paying high medical premiums don't see this I will never understand.

I've been expecting Catholic "Activism" since the more sincere push for marriage rights by gays and the anti-abortion/contraception fight has kicked in. This way they can cause some grief without directly involving their signature cause.

The Church really has some big stones complaining about the poor not being taken care of. That was their messiahs direction to the Church to care for the poor. Just how much money, real estate, works of art, and business holdings does the Church sit on?

Don't care what any religious peace loving hipocrite stands for. Do your opposing leagally and in the prescribed manner. During Vietnam one of those peace loving, anti war POS decided to spit on me while I was traveling, in uniform, from one duty assignment to my next. I left his ass flat on the ground. So my message to them is this, I didn't like your grandfather, your father, and I don't like you. NOw I'm not a war monger but a soldier must do what he must do and people in leadership positions must do the same. Why don't you fools hop a plan, go to the ones really causing all the fuss, I'm sure they will really like have you imput about what they should do.

both party's sold out to corporate america... a long time ago....in other news...elvis...is still dead...

You know what, Suval?? I'm not a religious dude myself but if what these protestors are doing will compel the bozos in Washington to obey the WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND BRING OUR TROOPS HOME, then I'm ALL FOR IT!!!!!!

I have no idea why so many liberals keep repeating lies over and over. There was NO surplus of money under Clinton. The only surplus was that the govt was taking in more money than they spent.

You contradict yourself in two consecutive sentences. That's what surplus means in that context. Of course the debt doesn't magically disappear. I think everyone knows that. Also the actual raw numbers aren't that important. It's debt as a % of GDP that matters and in that sense the debt did go down under Clinton. The point is moot however since he did nothing to codify balancing the budget for the future and therefore we have this current situation. To be fair this started with Reagan, so I don't know why so many conservatives make him out to be some kind of hero. Just look at a national debt graph.

Will prenatal Care eventually make war a distasteful option for the new enlightenment that improved nutrition will embellish on society? War is already an outmoded concept in our modern world, what steps can world leaders take to make it obsolete? What changes need to be made to international laws that govern how business arrangements impact the worlds societies so that we can prevent a future 911? The world is getting to intertwined for war to continue to be a viable tool for resolving social, political, and economic disputes. Why do various leaders choose violence or war as a social tool, and why does anyone listen to them or accept their guidance? War kills mostly the young and Innocent, while sparing most of the wicked that incited it through their greed, incompetence, or lust for power. Don't we want to become a civilized planet? Do we have a choice... what is yours?

Where were you when US troops killed tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians in their shock-and-awe attack on that country, falsely claiming that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction?

Max, believe it or not the Iraqis did most of the killing in the Iraq war. Gave them a choice and they made it. Death squads were their choice instead of peaceful coexistence with those who were perceived as different from them. Sunni, Shia, tribal mentality. Idiots. Having said that it appears that Iraq today is more in line with what was the expectation with the removal of Saddam.

To..Rick..""""

Who's passing their agenda on to who.....?

Yes, because clearly it is a Conservative idea to continually wage war and to love killing people from other countries.......get a grip! This is not about liberal vs. conservative. It's about people who are fed up with war. Period.

Judging by what issuses they are protesting I would tend to lump them in with the liberals

Then why are then protesting against Obama?

Anti-Capitalists = Anarchists. They exist at the extremes of either Liberalism and Conservatism, depending on their slant toward collectivism or individualism.

"Catholic anarchy" is kind of screwed up mix sociology and theology...in my personal opinion. They are far out of proper context somewhere in their belief system....but it's a free country!

To..sloppy""""

Ya but repubs elect those Hollywood types to run the country...ever here of Bedtime for Bonzo

Then why are then protesting against Obama?

Because they're even further left than Obama.

sloppy joe, you seem to know quite a bit about the Hollywood crowd. You must spend a lot of time with them. Should your name be sloppy seconds instead??

Amunaka

o..Rick..""""

Who's passing their agenda on to who.....?

Clinton demanded a beefed up version of the CRA be amended to the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 which required that the banking institutions meet anti-relining criteria before Clinton would agree to sign it.

Clinton pushed and signed The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 (CFMA) is United States federal legislation that officially ensured the deregulation of financial products known as over-the-counter derivatives This market reached a notational value of aproximately 680 trillion in 2008 which is roughly 10 times the value of the gdp of the world

The budget surplus of Bill Clinton which was not enough to reduce the national debt below 5.7 trillion dollars ended with the collapse of the dot com boom in 2000. Some suggest that took 5 trillion out of the economy. See this article by Anderson Cooper 360

I have shown you and yours this information several times yet you continue to either ignore it are maybe you are just too dumb to understand.

Typical of "Conservatives" we get preachments attacking those who help the poor, because "Conservatives" profit from poverty.

The Liberals in the Continental Congress, lead by John Adams of Massachusetts-Bay, pushed for a declaration of independence from Britain.

The "Conservatives" were opposed -- until they got what they wanted in exchange for their support:

Preservation of slavery.

"Conservatives" are able to be "Conservatives" by dint of ignorance of and contempt for history, fact, and truth.

What a dumb post. There was no division like libs and conservatives of today. That sounds like a liberal BS way to take potshots at people you don't agree with. That is so off base as to be laughable, I can't believe someone would post that.

"The protest, led by a group associated with the Catholic Worker movement".

My sentiments exactly. A bunch of Pedophiles in Priest clothing. Most of the religious people I meet are hateful, arrogant, egotistical, self-loving, hypocrits that are just as mean or worse than some serial killers. They are the nastiest people out there. And now these "quasi-religious" idiots storm the Obama office instead of cleaning their own house first!!!! What is this world coming to? Seems like we are reverting back to "CaveMan" mentality!!!

Were is the catholic church now, they had a lot to say about Obama and the gay marriage...but nothing on thisa and their own immoral issues of child molestation....

I would have more respect for them if they occupied the Vatican first.

It must be very confusing to be a Catholic these days. That's the only explanation I can come up with so far. Abuse of kids by priests isn't worth fighting against, but capitalism, NATO and/or Obama are all fair game. Hmmm. Some church you've got there.

starfox, speaking of cleaning their own houses first, I think the Occupy folks need to do that. A nice bath would be a good start.

Perhaps the "catholic movement" should begin by storming the vatican and demanding the viewpoint which has been deemed against the new church ideals of putting a silence on the sisters of americas. man has no power but believes if he sits under the throne of god...

Chantal de Alacuaz from Chicago in a release by the Chicago-based White Rose Catholic Worker posted late Sunday night. "As Catholic Workers, we serve the poor by practicing the works of mercy — feeding the hungry, sheltering the homeless, taking care of the sick and the works of war are directly opposed to that."

So you liberals are against all of that. You liberals blast the Catholic Church because they did not do enough in your opinion to condemn the pedophilia of a relatively small percentate of the total priesthood yet you say nothing of the slavery imposed on prostitutes by their pimps or NAMBLA which is a left wing group of pedophiles. Can you say hypocrisy.

To..Rick"""

NAMBLA ...really left wing ...and where and what is NAMBLA today...

"...sheltering the homeless, taking care of the sick and the works of war are directly opposed to that."...and, we never get in the news for our "regular" good deeds, so here we go...15 minutes of fame, please!

To..Rick"""

And deregulation was not pushed by the republicans ..is that what you are saying

When the hell did a group like NAMBLA become political in the sense of Right or Left? Some people have IQ's smaller than their shoe size! No Conservative has ever been a pedophile or a sex abuser except all those who were/are... Sick people exist on all sides of the political and religious spectrum, so keep your hate-mongering to yourself please, or take it to Faux News where you will get a lot of other Sheeple to agree with you.

This is about a group of people STORMING a building with people inside. Had they succeeded, would violence have occurred? Given the same type of people also have been known to shoot Drs and blow up clinics, the answer is more than likely a yes. They broke the law, now they must face the charges. Nothing more or less. They have a right to protest, but NOT to lead assaults. While I disagree with them 100000%, I will defend their right to PEACEFULLY protest, but this was far from peaceful, and an affront to their own stated religious beliefs.

BTW, "OMG" has been reported for his violation of the TOS.

I would have more respect for them if they occupied the Vatican first.

Somehow, I get the impression that if these protesters were arrested at a Romney campaign stop, a certain number of you progressives would pretty much forget about the pedophilia and cheer them on...

Rick...do you "squeal" like a pig?? Me thinks you have been at the trough too much. Come up for air and clear that hate filled little noggin. Republicans/cons./teabags...reming me of that Beatles song. Little Piggies!!

Let em protest to their little hearts desire. Who cares?

Interesting that a group associated with the Catholic Worker movement were all arrested on the spot and yet those destructive Wall Street protesters are still out there in full force where rapes have occured, drugs, murder and thefts. Oh and my personal favorite...defecating in churches and on police cars. Yes, I can see the difference in behaviors and why no one has put a stop to the occupiers. Their motives are so pure. I wonder what the reason for letting this insanity continue? I guess we will know soon enough. You better believe that it's politically motivated. Someone will reap the benefits of it.

To..OMG"""

You know what they say of those that fantasizes over some ones avatar

@Against Union Thievery: are you enrolled in a creative writing class, or just completely ignorant? The OWS morons have and continue to be arrested when they engage in trespass. Just as these bozos did. If they chose to use public spaces, they would not have. Learn the law.

Every protest group with "worker" in their name has represented the communist party, for the last seventy or eighty years.

My take on the article as written, is a group, supposedly catholic oriented nut cases, rushed a building to make a political statement. If all of you really want to make comparisons to activist groups then do your homework.

If you look at any media photos of the two most recognized organizations/groups Occupy Wall Streeters and Tea Party groups. Without any any preformed bias from the media or any personally formed opinions on either group. Just looking at the published photos. You will see photos of people carrying flags and peaceful gatherings from the Tea Party group. From the Occupy Wall Streeters you see people unkept in appearance, in violation of trespassing laws, drug usage, and costing the taxpayers a lot of money in added security expense.

Of these two groups I would come to the conclusion, The group that rushed Obama's HQ more closely align themselves with the Occupy group.

I have to wonder though if there were any true catholics involved in this protest? Or was this a group that was trying to make the catholic faith look like a bunch of hypocrites?

Somehow, I get the impression that if these protesters were arrested at a Romney campaign stop, a certain number of you progressives would pretty much forget about the pedophilia and cheer them on...

And, in total fairness, I'm sure a number of conservatives would harp on pedophilia if Catholic Worker protesters were arrested at a Romney event.

Now, why would these people be demonstrating out side of obama's campaign headquarters? could it be they have something to say? could it be because they are trying to convince obama how wrong he has been over the past four years? i would like to know why these people feel driven to protest.....surely we need to hear from them what prompted them to demonstrate outside of obama's campaign headquarters? are our freedom of speech rights being violated to?

just now on the news, obama's smear tactics against Romney tell us that Romney has not done much in the way of creating jobs for the unemployed. but guess what, obama has had four years and what has he done?

Rick-312779

So you liberals are against all of that. You liberals blast the Catholic Church because they did not do enough in your opinion to condemn the pedophilia of a relatively small percentate of the total priesthood yet you say nothing of the slavery imposed on prostitutes by their pimps or NAMBLA which is a left wing group of pedophiles. Can you say hypocrisy.

http://www.badmouth.net/top-five-republican-gay-sex-scandals/

Yes... Republican hypocrisy.

Q: How many Republican politicians can you fit in the closet?
A: Evidently, all of them.

It’s gone past ridiculous and straight to the absurd. At this point, it appears your average public restroom has more gay Republicans in it than clean handtowels. The “holier-than-thou” party has spent an awful lot of time on their knees this past year, but they haven’t been doing a lot of praying.

I have no theories why this is the case, other than I think that being gay is the way God made some people and being conservative is a choice, and almost every Republican I’ve met thinks the opposite.

But why question it? The larger point is that if you enjoy seeing politicians destroyed by their own hypocrisy, it’s been a very, very good year. So I give you the top five republican gay sex scandals of the past 12 months.

Mark Foley

U.S. Representative
(September 28, 2006)

The Crime: Sending sexually laced, gramatically challenged instant messages and e-mails to teenaged boys in the Congressional page program for more than 10 years.

The Hypocrisy: Chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children. One of the foremost opponents of child pornography in the Senate.

The Quote: “get a ruler and measure it for me”

The Video:

Ted Haggard

Leader of the National Association of Evangelicals
(November 2006)

The Crime: Paying male prostitutes for sex and snorting crystal meth.

The Hypocrisy: A powerful force in the evangelical movement, Haggard participated in weekly meetings with President George Bush and top advisors where he gave spiritual advice. He taught that homosexuality was an abomination and actively lobbied against gay rights.

The Quote: “I did not have a homosexual relationship with a man in Denver.”

The Video:

Larry Craig

U.S. Senator
Senate Liason for Mitt Romney’s Presidential Campaign
(June 11, 2007)

The Crime: Soliciting sex from an undercover cop in an airport bathroom

The Hypocrisy: Craig twice voted against adding the words “sexual orientation” to the federal hate crimes law. Craig also voted to give states the right to refuse to recognize gay marriage–a right they already had, but the Senator wanted to really, really prove he didn’t like gay people.

The Quote: “I am not gay, I don’t do these kinds of things.”

The Video:

Bob Allen

Member of the Florida House of Representatives
Florida Chairman of John McCain’s Presidential Campaign
(July 11, 2007)

The Crime: Offering an undercover cop $20 to allow Allen to blow him in a men’s room in a public park. After being arrested, Allen tried to explain that he only offered to blow the cop because the cop was a “burly black man” and he “didn’t want to become a statistic.”

The Hypocrisy: Allen was one of 21 Florida legislators to sign Gov. Jeb Bush’s friend-of-the-court brief supporting the state’s ban on gays adopting children, and he co-sponsored an unsuccessful bill that would have enhanced penalties for “offenses involving unnatural and lascivious acts” such as indecent exposure.

The Quote: “I certainly wasn’t there to have sex with anybody and certainly wasn’t there to exchange money for it.”

The Video:

Glenn Murphy Jr.

National Chairman of the Young Republicans
Chairman of the Clark County Republican Party
(July 28, 2007)

The Crime: Murphy got a fellow Young Republican drunk and then spent the night at his house. The other young man woke up in the middle of the night to find Murphy giving him mouth-to-penis resuscitation. After this incident, a 1998 sexual battery report came to light in which Murphy was alleged to have done the exact same thing.

The Hypocrisy: Murphy was a well-paid political consultant for Republican candidates and often advised them to use gay marriage as a wedge issue to paint their opponents as out of touch with traditional values.

The Quote: “I was in the Sound of Music in High School…don’t ask” (from his now-defunct Myspace page.)

The Video: Unfortunately, the Young Republicans took down all of their videos of Mr. Murphy. So instead, I give you

*note: you can watch the videos on the link.. assuming you go to it. Don't throw stones in glass houses... there is more than ENOUGH hypocrisy in the GRAND OLD PARTY with NO family values.

I sure wish everyone would stay on topic. The topic we are discussing is whether these protesters are right about NATO. We can discuss the Catholic sex scandal or how lame the "other party" is in another article.

Suval - you're an idiot. These protestors didn't approve of child abuse, in fact many good Catholics openly protested just as they protest war and other injustice. There is no hypocrisy here, but a big dose of simple-minded hatred on your part.

Amunaka

To..Rick"""

And deregulation was not pushed by the republicans ..is that what you are saying

You seem to have a real problem comprehending what you read. What I am saying and proving with links who caused deregulation of those particular industries that put us in the economic meltdown and who prevented the regulation of the derivatives market. You need to get with the program.

When President Obama was a "community organizer" in Chicago...wasn't this one of the communities he organized?

ItsAboutTime-3704531

So you are saying just because republicans did all that then it is OK. Is that why you are ok with democrats that have pulled similar stunts?

I don't care who did it, it is not ok but to use those for political gain is just as bad as what they did.

President BUSH who created the Iraq War, NATO should drag Bush & Chenney to THE HAQUE for War Crime

Apologies to the protest group but Obama can't speak with you right now. He is too busy raising money for his campaign with singer Ricky Martin. Yes, that Ricky Martin. He is in the 1% and.....

This just proves that everything is calculated with Obama. Everything is a set up. Why the people who are out of a job, paying high food prices, paying high gas prices, paying high medical premiums don't see this I will never understand.

sam adams

"Judging by what issuses they are protesting I would tend to lump them in with the liberals"

Then why are they protesting against Obama?

Unlike the rightwing, particularly conservatives (religious-Right), liberals are not as big of hypocrites. They will protest against their own Party and president when they don't agree on an issue. Occupy is an example of this, being against greed and corruption in government -- by anyone in government.

To this point, it's good to finally see Catholics taking a stand against Paul Ryan's attack on the poor, elderly, disabled (the least among us), and now protesting for PEACE -- In other words the true teachings of Christ.

Now if we could just get the so-called "small government" Teabaggers to stop with the Big Brother crap and trying to legislate morality. Teabaggers, get our of our lives!

TruePatriot-445959

Unlike the rightwing, particularly conservatives (religious-Right), liberals are not as big of hypocrites

Then why is it the Obama supporters that are attacking the protesters?

This is great news. The more the religious crazies come out against Preaident Obama, the more they drive independents to him.

Jo Ann-666954 -- What a crock of crap.

What does Ricky Martin want in return for his support of the president, or George Clooney and Hollywood? Nothing. What do unions want except to protect labor rights and good paying jobs here in the US?

Look upon your own @#$%&! Party, and ask what Wall Street, Big Oil/Big Business wants. You can bet they expect something in return, like subsidies, deregulation, tax breaks, etc. What do Super PACs like Rove, Dick Armey, and the Koch brothers, and Sugar Daddies like Adelson, Friess, etc. want? What about the multinational corporations and their boards with foreigners, who now have more influence than you do with you one measly vote?

If a plutocrat like Romney were to be elected, imagine how he would stack the SCOTUS with his "corporations are people" belief -- Your vote will be relegated to NOTHING! What is wrong with you and your rightwing ilk? For Pete's sake, do some critical thinking on your own!

Rick-312779 -- Apparently you are reading and comprehension impaired. Where does it say that Obama supporters were attacking the the protesters? Also, read my post, take in the information, think about before you commence with diarrhea of the mouse. I was responding to a statement that the protesters are liberal. Once again, the article does not identify the group as liberal.

Rick-312779 -

So you are saying just because republicans did all that then it is OK. Is that why you are ok with democrats that have pulled similar stunts? I don't care who did it, it is not ok but to use those for political gain is just as bad as what they did.

Nope.. Ironic thought when someone tries to take the HIGH Ground and only blame the 'liberal' left for its hypocrisy, when its clear that its on BOTH sides of the aisle.

For you and Jo-Ann

I also find it so FUNNY, how the right condemns the regulations passed during Clinton's administration, when the REPUBLICANs controlled congress. Its also even funnier then the Right says "you can't blame" BUSH" Right along with it.

As far as I can see, both parties have failed the American people, and pointing the finger of BLAME doesn't solve the problem. We should care as much for the opposition as we do for ourselves.

As for the protesters. I support equal rights for everyone in the United States. These protesters have the right to peaceful demonstration, so let them have it. Who cares if they are purple, pink, green, or blue.

Hey Itsabouttime...

Neil Goldschmidt – Democrat – Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland.

Barney Frank – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Massachusetts. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman’s Washington apartment for prostitution.

Jerry Springer – Democrat – Resigned from Cincinnati City Council in 1974 after admitting to paying a prostitute with a personal check, which was found in a police raid on a massage parlor.

Melvin Jay Reynolds – U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1993 to 1995. Convicted on sexual misconduct and obstruction of justice charges and sentenced to five years in prison.

Former New Jersey Governor James McGreevey resigned his office and publically admitted his relationship with his croney/lover Golan Cipel who resigned from a $100,000/yr job created by McGreevey.

Edward Kennedy – Democrat – U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne.

DNC – The Federal Election Commission imposed $719,000 in fines against participants in the 1996 Democratic Party fundraising scandals involving contributions from China, Korea and other foreign sources. The Federal Election commission said it decided to drop cases against contributors of more than $3 million in illegal DNC contributions

because the respondents left the country or the corporations are defunct.

Sandy Berger – Democrat – National Security Advisor during the Clinton Administration. Berger became the focus of a criminal investigation after removing highly classified terrorism documents and handwritten notes from the National Archives during preparations for the Sept. 11 commission hearings.

Robert Torricelli – Democrat – Withdrew from the 2002 Senate race with less than 30 days before the election because of controversy over personal gifts he took from a major campaign donor and questions about campaign donations from 1996.

Sowande Ajumoke Omokunde – Democrat – the son of newly elected U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore, was booked on charges of criminal damage to property for allegedly slashing tires on 20 vans and cars rented by the Republican Party for use in Election Day voter turnout efforts.

Daniel David Rostenkowski – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Illinois. Indicted on 17 felony charges- pleaded guilty to two counts of misuse of public funds and sentenced to seventeen months in federal prison.

Charles Coles Diggs, Jr. – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Michigan from 1955 to 1980. Convicted on eleven counts of mail fraud and filing false payroll forms- sentenced to three years in prison.

George Rogers – Democrat – Massachusetts State House of Representatives from 1965 to 1970. Member of Massachusetts State Senate from 1975 to 1978. Convicted of bribery in 1978 and sentenced to two years in prison.

Don Siegelman – Democrat Governor Alabama – indicted in a bid-rigging scheme involving a maternity-care program. The charges accused Siegelman and his former chief of staff of helping Tuscaloosa physician Phillip Bobo rig bids. Siegelman was accused of moving $550,000 from the state education budget to the State Fire College in Tuscaloosa so Bobo could use the money to pay off a competitor for a state contract for maternity care.

John Murtha, Jr. – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania. Implicated in the Abscam sting, in which FBI agents impersonating Arab businessmen offered bribes to political figures; Murtha was cited as an unindicted co-conspirator

Gerry Eastman Studds – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Massachusetts. The first openly gay member of Congress. Censured by the House of Representatives for having sexual relations with a teenage House page.

James C. Green – Democrat – North Carolina State House of Representatives. Charged with accepting a bribe from an undercover FBI agent, but was acquitted. Convicted of tax evasion in 1997.

Frederick Richmond – Democrat – U.S. Representative from New York. Arrested in Washington, D.C., in 1978 for soliciting sex from a minor and from an undercover police officer – pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. Also – charged with tax evasion, marijuana possession, and improper payments to a federal employee – pleaded guilty.

Raymond Lederer – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania. Implicated in the Abscam sting – convicted of bribery and sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000.

Harrison Arlington Williams, Jr. – Democrat – U.S. Senator from New Jersey. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Allegedly accepted an 18% interest in a titanium mine. Convicted of nine counts of bribery, conspiracy, receiving an unlawful gratuity, conflict of interest, and interstate travel in aid of racketeering. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $50,000.

Frank Thompson, Jr. – Democrat – U.S. Representative from New Jersey. Implicated in the Abscam sting, convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges. Sentenced to three years in prison.

Michael Joseph Myers – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania. Implicated in the Abscam sting – convicted of bribery and conspiracy; sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000; expelled from the House of Representatives.

John Michael Murphy – Democrat – U.S. Representative from New York. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted of conspiracy, conflict of interest, and accepting an illegal gratuity. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000.

John Wilson Jenrette, Jr – Democrat – U.S. Representative from South Carolina. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges and sentenced to prison

Alcee Lamar Hastings – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Florida. Impeached and removed from office as federal judge in 1989 over bribery charges.

Marion Barry – Democrat – mayor of Washington, D.C. Convicted of cocaine possession after being caught on videotape smoking crack cocaine. Sentenced to six months in prison.

Mario Biaggi – Democrat – U.S. Representative from New York. Indicted on federal charges that he had accepted bribes in return for influence on federal contracts.Convicted of obstructing justice and accepting illegal gratuities. Tried in 1988 on federal racketeering charges and convicted on 15 felony counts.

Lee Alexander – Democrat – Mayor of Syracuse, N.Y. Was indicted over a $1.5 million kickback scandal. Pleaded guilty to racketeering and tax evasion charges. Served six years in prison.

Bill Campbell – Democrat – Mayor of Atlanta. Indicted and charged with fraud over claims he accepted improper payments from contractors seeking city contracts.

Frank Ballance – Democrat – Congressman North Carolina. Pleaded guilty to one charge of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and money laundering related to mishandling of money by his charitable foundation.

Hazel O’Leary – Democrat – Secretary of Energy during the Clinton Administration – O’leary took trips all over the world as Secretary with as many 50 staff members and at times rented a plane, which was used by Madonna during her concert tours.

Mary Rose Oakar – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Ohio from 1977 to 1993.

Pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor charges of funneling $16,000 through fake donors.

David Giles – Democrat – candidate for U.S. Representative from Washington. Convicted in June 2000 of child rape.

Gary Siplin – Democrat state senator Florida- found guilty of third-degree grand theft of $5,000 or more, a felony, and using services of employees for his candidacy.

Edward Mezvinsky – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Iowa. Indicted on 56 federal fraud charges.

Lena Swanson – Democrat – Member of Washington State Senate. Pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting unlawful payments from veterans and former prisoners of war.

Abraham J. Hirschfeld – Democrat – candidate in Democratic primary for U.S. Senator from New York in 1974 and 1976. Offered Paula Jones $1 million to drop her sexual harassment lawsuit against President Bill Clinton. Convicted in 2000 of trying to hire a hit man to kill his business partner.

Henry Cisneros – Democrat – U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development from 1993 to 1997. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of lying to the FBI.

James A. Traficant Jr. – Member of House of Representatives from Ohio. Expelled from Congress after being convicted of corruption charges. Sentenced today to eight years in prison for accepting bribes and kickbacks.

John Doug Hays – Democrat – member of Kentucky State Senate. Found guilty of mail fraud for submitting false campaign reports stemming from an unsuccessful run for judge. He was sentenced to six months in prison to be followed by six months of home confinement and three years of probation.

Henry J. Cianfrani – Democrat – Pennsylvania State Senate. Convicted on federal charges of racketeering and mail fraud for padding his Senate payroll. Sentenced to five years in federal prison.

David Hall – Democrat – Governor of Oklahoma. Indicted on extortion and conspiracy charges. Convicted and sentenced to three years in prison.

John A. Celona – Democrat – A former state senator was charged with the three counts of mail fraud. Federal prosecutors accused him of defrauding the state and collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars from CVS Corp. and others while serving in the legislature. Celona has agreed to plead guilty to taking money from the CVS pharmacy

chain and other companies that had interest in legislation. Under the deal, Celona agreed to cooperate with investigators. He faces up to five years in federal prison on each of the three counts and a $250,000 fine

Allan Turner Howe – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Utah. Arrested for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute.

Jerry Cosentino – Democrat – Illinois State Treasurer. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud – fined $5,000 and sentenced to nine months home confinement.

Joseph Waggonner Jr. – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Louisiana. Arrested in Washington, D.C. for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute

Albert G. Bustamante – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Texas. Convicted in 1993 on racketeering and bribery charges and sentenced to prison.

Lawrence Jack Smith – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Florida. Sentenced to three months in federal prison for tax evasion.

David Lee Walters – Democrat – Governor of Oklahoma. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor election law violation.

James Guy Tucker, Jr. – Democrat – Governor of Arkansas. Resigned in July 1996 after conviction on federal fraud charges as part of the Whitewater investigation.

Walter Rayford Tucker – Democrat – Mayor of Compton, California from 1991 to 1992; U.S. Representative from California from 1993 to 1995. Sentenced to 27 months in prison for extortion and tax evasion.

William McCuen – Democrat – Secretary of State of Arkansas. Admitted accepting kickbacks from two supporters he gave jobs, and not paying taxes on the money. Admitted to conspiring with a political consultant to split $53,560 embezzled from the state in a sham transaction. He was indicted on corruption charges. Pleaded guilty to felony counts tax evasion and accepting a kickback. Sentenced to 17 years in prison.

Walter Fauntroy – Democrat – Delegate to U.S. Congress from the District of Columbia. Charged in federal court with making false statements on financial disclosure forms. Pleaded guilty to one felony count and sentenced to probation.

Carroll Hubbard, Jr. – Democrat – Kentucky State Senate from 1968 to 1975 and U.S. Representative from Kentucky from 1975 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to conspiring to defraud the Federal Elections Commission and to theft of government property; sentenced to

Joseph Kolter – Democrat – member of Pennsylvania State House of Representatives from 1969 to 1982 and U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1983 to 1993. Indicted by a Federal grand jury on five felony charges of embezzlement at the U.S. House post office. Pleaded guilty.

Webster Hubbell – Democrat – Chief Justice of Arkansas State Supreme Court in 1983. Pleaded guilty to federal mail fraud and tax evasion charges – sentenced to 21 months in prison.

Nicholas Mavroules – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1979 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to charges of tax fraud and accepting gratuities while in office.

Carl Christopher Perkins – Democrat – Kentucky State House of Representatives from 1981 to 1984 and U.S. Representative from Kentucky from 1985 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud in connection with the House banking scandal. Perkins wrote overdrafts totaling about $300,000. Pleaded guilty to charges of filing false statements with the

Federal Election Commission and false financial disclosure reports. Sentenced to 21 months in prison.

Richard Hanna – Democrat – U.S. Representative from California from 1963 to 1974. Received payments of about $200,000 from a Korean businessman in what became known as the “Koreagate” influence buying scandal. Pleaded guilty and sentenced to federal prison.

Angelo Errichetti – Democrat – New Jersey State Senator was sentenced to six years in prison and fined $40,000 for his involvement in Abscam.

Daniel Baugh Brewster – Democrat – U.S. Senator from Maryland. Indicted on charges of accepting illegal gratuity while in Senate.

Thomas Joseph Dodd – Democrat – U.S. Senator from Connecticut. Censured by the Senate for financial improprieties, having diverted $116,000 in campaign and testimonial funds to his own use.

Edward Fretwell Prichard, Jr. – Democrat – Delegate to Democratic National Convention from Kentucky. Convicted of vote fraud in federal court in connection with ballot-box stuffing. Served five months in prison.

Guy Hamilton Jones, Sr. – Democrat -Arkansas State Senate. Convicted on federal tax charges and expelled from the Arkansas Senate.

Daniel Flood – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1945 to 1947, 1949 to 1953 and 1955 to 1980. Pleaded guilty to a conspiracy charge involving payoffs and sentenced to probation.

Otto Kerner, Jr – Democrat – Governor of Illinois from 1961 to 1968. While serving as Governor, he and another official made a gain of over $300,000 in a stock deal. Convicted on 17 counts of bribery, conspiracy, perjury, and related charges. Sentenced to three years in federal prison and fined $50,000.

George Crockett, Jr. – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Michigan. Served four months in federal prison for contempt of court following his defense of a Communist leader on trial for advocating the overthrow of the government.

Cornelius Edward Gallagher – Democrat – U.S. Representative from New Jersey from 1959 to 1973. Indicted on federal charges of income tax evasion, conspiracy, and perjury.

Mark B. Jimenez – Democrat fundraiser – sentenced to 27 months in prison on charges of tax evasion and conspiracy to defraud the United States and commit election financing offenses.

Bobby Lee Rush – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Illinois. As a Black Panther, spent six months in prison on a weapons charge.

Bolley ”Bo” Johnson – Democrat – Former Florida House Speaker – received a two-year term for tax evasion.

Roger L. Green – Democrat – Brooklyn Democrat Assemblyman. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor for accepting travel reimbursement for trips he did not pay for and was sentenced to fines and probation.

Gloria Davis – Democrat – Bronx assemblywoman. Pleaded guilty to second-degree bribe-taking.

Jim Johnson former chief of Fannie Mae, Obama advisor, and longtime Democratic Party power broker, and one of the Countrywide Six.

Franklin Delano Raines, the former chairman and chief executive officer of Fannie Mae who served as White House budget director under President Bill Clinton, and one of the Countrywide Six.

Donna Shalala, former Secretary of Health and Human Services, who in 1993, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, along with several other groups, filed a lawsuit against Donna Shalala over closed-door meetings related to the HillaryCare socialized health care plan, and since leaving the administration was embroiled in scandals
at the University of Florida due to her extravagant lifestyle at the University’s expense. She was also one of the Countrywide Six.

Richard Holbrooke, former U.N. ambassador and assistant Secretary of State, who as U.N. Ambassador ignored whistleblower reports about the infamous Oil-for-Food scandals, and joined the Countrywide Six.

Senator Christopher Dodd – D. Connecticut, who oversees the U.S. mortgage industry as chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, also a member of the Countrywide Six.

Gaylord Kent Conrad – D. North Dakota, the chairman of the Senate Budget Committee and one of the first politicians to support Obama over Hillary. Plus, he was a member of the Countrywide Six.

ROD BLAGOJEVICH, Governor of Illinois, stated that the Senate seat “is a f’ing valuable thing, you just don’t give it away for nothing.” He had a good friend, too.

Tony Rezko “assisted Blagojevich in setting up the state’s first Democratic administration in twenty years. Rezko was able to have business associates appointed onto several state boards. Rezko and several others were indicted on federal charges in October 2006, for using their connections to the state boards to demand kickbacks from

businesses that wanted to do business with the state. While the others pleaded guilty to the charges, Rezko pleaded not guilty and was found guilty of 16 of the 24 charges filed against him.” (Wiki)

A federal grand jury is investigating how a company that advised Jefferson County, Alabama, on bond deals that threaten to cause the biggest municipal bankruptcy in U.S. history, did similar work in New Mexico after making contributions to Governor Bill Richardson’s political action committees.

In East St. Louis, Ill, A federal jury… convicted the chairman of the city’s Democratic Party and four others of scheming to buy votes with cash, cigarettes and liquor last November. Prosecutors relied largely on secretly recorded audiotapes in which they say the accused could be heard talking about paying $5 per vote to get key Democrats elected. Charles Powell Jr., 61, the city’s Democratic Party chairman, was found guilty along with the city’s former director of regulatory affairs and three others. (AP)

Clarence Norman Jr., the leader of one of the largest Democratic Party organizations in the nation, was found guilty of soliciting illegal campaign contributions.

To..Alien """

Look up Stop Republican Pedophilia Now...I don't think MSNBC will let that link go thru...

To..Rick """

I'm not the one having a problem comprehending what I read... want to try again

Stupid people doing something(although noble) stupid.

@AlienMartian, even by your own posts many of those people admitted to or pleaded guilty (which is almost the same thing) or otherwise stated their involvement in such scandals. ItsAboutTime's post shows the Republican side that DID NOT admit to or state their involvement in such scandals (though many of them eventually capitulated). Unfortunately, over half of your post is null and void by the definition set by ItsAboutTime.

@Charlie, incorrect, at least on my part and the part of most independents I've spoken with. The leaders of the Catholic church and members of this so-called Catholic Worker Group have always had issues with the overall conservative and independent conservative bases, mostly because they align themselves against prospects of individual choice (generally most religions do but Catholics have been getting the most heat for it recently).

@TruePatriot, you should read It'sAboutTime's post right below yours. They got at least half right: Republicans controlled Congress during the majority of the Clinton years, but during Bush's second term, Democrats controlled Congress. Obama also had two years of a Democrat-controlled Congress to "make things better" and bring their "hope and change." Well, from what I saw hope rose in the hearts of politicians and others of the "1%" and change was enacted to the detriment of the rest.

@It'sAboutTime, thank you for your insight. At least one person here is thinking with a head on their shoulders.

SSPerfectChaos

Thank you. I truly does no good to sit and point the finger of blame. Both parties have failed us... I don't know what the right answer is, but its more than clear we can't keep repeating the same mistakes.

Thank you for your post.

But the righteous so called good christian Catholics thought nothing of covering up the many decades of rape and molestation of young children. In the past, they murdered and went off to wars themselves. Where was their hypocritical concern then??

TruePatriot - Everything I wrote is true. Obama had a fundraiser today.

Look upon your own @#$%&! Party, and ask what Wall Street, Big Oil/Big Business wants. You can bet they expect something in return, like subsidies, deregulation, tax breaks, etc. What do Super PACs like Rove, Dick Armey, and the Koch brothers, and Sugar Daddies like Adelson, Friess, etc. want? What about the multinational corporations and their boards with foreigners, who now have more influence than you do with you one measly vote?

I think you need to realize that Obama is in bed with Wall Street too. Some of the highest donations to the Obama campaign came from people on Wall Street.

Amunaka

To..Rick """

I'm not the one having a problem comprehending what I read... want to try again

Apparently you have a hell of a reading problem. I showed WITH LINKS where democrats are responsible for the recession and then you said it was the republicans fault.

Are you trying to claim people like Bill clinton. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd are republicans?

It doesn't matter what the republicans were doing, it was the democrats that led the way. Then the democrats stood in the way when the republicans tried to fix it.

Apparently the only people you are fooling is you.

To..Rick..""""

You showed me nothing ...The downturn started when repubs controlled the congress the senate and the white house 2003 to 2007...it was the repubs that were and are responsible for the recession..when did the democrats ever stand in the way of republicans doing anything...and what have repubs ever fixed...ever

LOL @ Amunaka. The "downturn" started with the "fair housing act" in the 70's during Carter's Administration. Written and packaged by Nancy Pelosi and her Democratically controlled Congress. (forced banks to give home loans to individuals who had no way of paying the bill eventually causing the collapse of Fanny and Freddy) His administration also gave the Panama Canal (a significant source of income) back to Panama and created more regulation on energy and education than had ever been known before. He was unarguably the most socialist and worst President this country has ever seen. Of course, he will be surpassed by Obama if Obama wins another term. Oh, by the way, the original "stimulus" that Bush gets ridiculed for, the one that was less than a quarter the size of Obama's, It was was authored by none other than Nancy Pelosi and CO-AUTHORED by B.H. Obama! Bush was under extreme pressure from the democratically controlled congress to sign the bill and was faced with do nothing and be remembered as the President who let the economy collapse or sign the bill and be the president who made the debt bigger than ever. Well, Obama has FAR surpassed him on the latter but still manages to blame Bush even though OBAMA CO-AUTHORED THE ORIGINAL BILL BUSH HAD TO SIGN! You Democrats are AMAZING in your ignorance and selective remembrance of history.

@SSPerfectChaos:

ItsAboutTime's post shows the Republican side that DID NOT admit to or state their involvement in such scandals (though many of them eventually capitulated).

"Eventually capitulating" constitutes admission. However delayed, an admission is still an admission. Additionally, I doubt seriously that every corrupt (whether emotionally, morally or financially) criminal in the list I posted simply stated, "AH DANG!, Ya Got me!" when advised of the charges against them. Your argument that admitting to crimes committed makes the crime somehow more acceptable is pathetic and has no base. Not to mention, irrelevant because MANY, MANY more Democrats have been involved in scandals and nearly ALL initially deny it.

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman" -Bill Clinton