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Subscribe to RSSA former FBI agent testifying for John Edwards said Edwards paid his mistress, Rielle Hunter, well after his presidential campaign had ended, supporting the defense contention that Edwards' support for Hunter was based on a personal relationship, not his political fortune. NBC's Lisa Myers reports from Greensboro, N.C.
Updated at 6:55 p.m. ET: John Edwards' defense lawyers said Tuesday they might call both Edwards and Rielle Hunter, his mistress and the mother of his youngest daughter, to the stand Wednesday in his campaign finance corruption trial.
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Lisa Myers of NBC News, Stephanie Berzinski of NBC station WXII of Winston-Salem, N.C., and Ben Thompson of NBC station WCNC of Charlotte, N.C. contributed to this report by M. Alex Johnson of msnbc.com. Follow M. Alex Johnson on Twitter and Facebook. |
Both have been on the defense's potential witness list from the beginning, as has Edwards' eldest daughter, Cate Edwards Upham. But speculation had swirled around the trial in Greensboro, N.C., that it might be too risky for the defense to call any of them to the stand.
Their names were on an updated list of possible witnesses that Edwards' lawyers gave the judge late Tuesday. Their appearance on the list doesn't mean they'll definitely testify; crafty defense lawyers have been known to list possible witnesses whom they have no intention of calling to throw prosecutors off the trail.
Tuesday, a large crowd gathered at the federal courthouse anticipating Upham's testimony, but a parade of other witnesses pushed her appearance on the stand back a day. She is likely to be one of the first witnesses called Wednesday.
Upham is expected to say that despite the lies and betrayal, her father still cared for her mother, Elizabeth, and was trying to protect the family.
"Taking the stand, talking about her father, how much family mattered — I think it could be powerful evidence for John Edwards," said Hampton Dellinger, a legal analyst for NBC News and msnbc.com.
The focus instead was on the money trail Tuesday, as a longtime friend and former campaign aide testified that Edwards was surprised to learn that billionaire oil heiress "Rachel "Bunny" Mellon had given almost $750,000 to help conceal the affair with Hunter.
Edwards, a former U.S. senator from North Carolina who was the 2004 Democratic vice presidential nominee, is on trial in U.S. District Court on six felony counts of accepting about $1 million in illegal and unreported campaign donations from Mellon and the late Fred Baron, finance chief for his 2008 presidential campaign.
A major point of the defense argument is that Edwards didn't know what the money from Mellon and Baron was being used for, a contention that was supported Tuesday by John Moylan, who worked in both of Edwards' presidential campaigns.
Moylan testified that Edwards was shocked to learn in August 2008 — several months after the fact — that Mellon had been paying to help support Hunter and keep her from the public eye. The money was given through checks falsely labeled as furniture purchases through Andrew Young, who was once a top aide to Edwards and is now his chief accuser.
Referring to Young as "that damn Andrew," Edwards told Mellon, "Bunny, you should not be sending money to anyone," Moylan testified.
Former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards has faced public and private challenges throughout his life and career.
Edwards' lawyers also called former FBI agent Jim Walsh to provide an analysis of Edwards' and Hunter's finances that appeared to show that most of the money from Mellon and Baron stayed in the hands of Young and his wife, while "Rielle Hunter saw little" of it, Dellinger said.
Financial records showed that the Youngs got about $1 million from Baron and Mellon in 2007 and 2008, but tax returns suggested they gave Hunter only $191,000 of it.
Other records showed that rather than deal with Young, Baron paid Hunter through direct deposits into her checking account. That money accounted for $74,000 over seven months.
Other defense witnesses also questioned the credibility of Young, calling him "untrustworthy" and "dishonest."
That could be Edwards' best angle after U.S. District Judge Catherine Eagles ruled out a major part of the defense case Monday, saying jurors wouldn't be allowed to hear about a federal audit that concluded that the money for the Hunter operation didn't amount to campaign contributions subject to federal regulation.
Scott Thomas, a former chairman of the Federal Election Commission, had been ready to testify about the audit of Edwards' 2008 campaign, which found that the contributions were legal. But Eagles ruled that evidence inadmissible because there was no way to determine what FEC auditors knew or were told at the time.
Thomas was allowed to testify Tuesday morning, but only in general terms. He said the commission had never before considered a case like Edwards'.
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First, the smarmy bastard exploited his law clients to make his fortune, then he exploited his dying wife in his run for the Presidency, NOW the son-of-a-bitch wants to exploit his oldest daughter to help keep himself out of prison.
What next? Will he be bringing his 3 youngest children -- including the one he denied -- into the courtroom to elicit more sympathy?
His late wife was the best thing about him.
Poor kid. Just imagine what she's had to face with her family:
Dad- Expoitive troll lawyer that testified as an unborn baby in court to get insurance money out of doctors for birth defects that couldn't be attributed to anyone. His actions caused the massive spike in medical insurance costs for the practitioners and our insurance rates. He owns the largest house in his state because he defrauded you and me.
Mom- From what I've read Elizabeth was similarly a power hungry person and was pushing John to be president. She was upset with him about the affair, but she wanted the power more and helped cover it up- while getting cancer treatment.
Yeah, it must have been a blast to grow up in that household. Maybe they insulated her from her dad's "work" and the behind the scenes stuff, but it won't help her deal with all of the abuses (of trust, power, financial, marital, etc.) that she now has to face. Good luck kid, just don't play his games and let him do his time.
He's a DemocRAT ! DEMOnized for being Like One! Probably innocent, though swarmy, as you say. He ain't a'hurtin the USA though ..and I doubt he'd intentionally be bringing her down as is "The ONE". We should be dealing w/the Kenyan ..and leave John Edwards to his.
I am a Rupublican and John Edwards is a sleazebag, but the way I read the law, it's hard to say if he broke the law.
Law states - any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office…”
If his purpose was to cover up his affair from his wife (who was battling cancer at the time,) then he did not break the law. If his purpose was to cover up his affair from the American public, then he is guilty.
JoeNY, I was going to post, but no need to now. You knocked it right out of the park. Kudo's!! Elizabeth was just as power hungry as he was. And John is the worst scumbag lawyer that ever practiced law in my old state. He belongs in prison, period.
Kumar, that's called "tax evasion" a federal crime.
And how much of a lawyer will she be if she perjures herself to save her dad?
Kumar, it's pretty much agreed that Elizabeth knew of the affair. He was covering it up to be elected. Just like...did to get elected.
I'm glad I don't have to explain that sort of bhavior to my daughter. Edwards reallly is a lowballl. Is it strange that our electoral system yielded serious, if losing, candidates in two straight electoral cycles who abanadoned their primary relationships when it was most important?
What next, you ask? I heard on the radio (Mike Evans broadcast), that Edwards called Obama and requested to be considered for a Supreme Court justice should a position become available. Yeah, my jaw dropped as well.
This did not come from a political pundint or anything, just a reporter with a short 5-minute per day sindicated nationwide broadcast - a show about celebrities in general.
Wow... that's some pretty classy journalism there.
It hasn't been determined in a court of law, by a jury of his peers whether or not there was a 'cover up'.
No one likes what he did.. and no one can say WHAT went in the private lives of both Mr. or Mrs. Edwards which would eventuate in this course of action. But what we do know... is that in our system of justice you don't get tried by the media. You get tried in a court of law, where evidence is presented to a jury of your fellow citizens, and THEY are the ones who get to make that determination.
Way to write an unbiased article! Nicely done!
Yep, this P.O.S. was once running for the VP seat with his POTUS seeking fellow womanizing lawyer friend, senator John F. Kerry. Exactly alike idiots, only this one gets busted with another woman who has his bastard child. NO SHAME.
Kerry was merely busted for lying about his military career and BS medals. 2 Peas-in-a-pod alright, hypocrites and liberal democrats in a position to right and pass the laws that 300,000,000 people must live and abide by, while they do as they please.... including their explicit exclusion from socialist crap like Obamacare, while the rest of us are force fed this taxing BS, these assclowns are kicking it up on our dime.
What always amuses me is how people engage in character assassination. I have no use for this man, however, his antics in the courtroom emerge because medical practitioners have leveraged the medical profession to the hilt. In 1900 people had paid for their own medical issues through a doctor or died in the process. By 1920 the standards had increased - but doctors wanted far more than they needed to cover school loans and other expenses. By the 1940's the sleazy pre-paid medical companies had emerged and grew like a puss over America - not falling under any regulatory body. To this day insurers only submit to the federal government where it relates to Medicare and Medicaid - otherwise high powered brokers have shielded them from almost any regulation and any that does exist is at a very corrupt state level where the medical "insurers" are well represented. Lawyers go after doctors because they've been bilking the insurers and their patient pool for years. Lawyers for the doctors established the medical malpractice insurance industry - which physicians now must have for practical reasons. So before we blame medical malpractice lawyers for our ills we have to blame ourselves - in particular Republicans eschew regulation - and would love to pick what little their is apart - where clearly the medical insurers need to be hacked to pieces and we need to start over. As if that will happen - the medical insurer K Street lobbyist spend hundreds of millions to make certain their needs are met.
Um, Doofus.......sorry DUPHAS....Kerry served honorably in the military and attempted to save the lives of his brothers in arms by speaking out against a hopeless war. Won't you please regale us with stories of YOUR bravery and honor while serving your country, and please, please.....list your medals.
Kumar: In my humble opinion, Edwards is indeed guilty of a crime if he used this money to "influcence any election for Federal office" by hiding information that would damage his reputation.
Considering that his wife was a complete and utter bitch, your statement says very little about this guy. In a strange way I happen to agree with you - this guy is lower than pond scum.
Here is an excerpt from the book Game Change:
can't expect much truth to come out of a lawyers mouth, even if she is under oath. it's his daughter for heavens sake. she's going to put her father away after recently loosing her mother? get real...
HEY VETTECH, just in case you haven't been paying attention to things, his youngest child doesn't even know what is going on because she isn't old to even know how to count much less testify in front of a judge and jury, also, it is highly unlikely that their father's defense attorney would be able to call them to the stand anyway because they have no idea what is going on. You want crucify Edwards thats fine, he deserves what he gets, but leave the kids alone. they haven't done anything wrong here.
I am appalled at the comments,the nasty comments about Mrs edwards. wheredid those people dugged that out of? It makes me sick that an illwoman finding out that her husband is cheating was not bad enough now her adversaries are insulting her memory with terrible gossips.Shame ,shame on you!
Since when has family become important to this worthless scumbag?
May Elizabeth Edwards Rest in Peace!
John Edwards is the REAL cancer.
Keep the Family together? How so? By keeping your worthless dad out of jail? You know though, other then Edwards miss using campaign funds. This whole affair would be nothing more then a families dirty laundry. People have affairs and father kids all the time. The Edwards case to me has way more moral examples of what is wrong with America then any financial issues this brings.
I don't know if she is a Real Hunter, but I am sure Edwards is a real Jack Arse.
Yes, by having a mistress he disgraced the names of our great leaders, like Thomas Jefferson, Franklin Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy and Bill Clinton.
What's that? You say that they all had mistresses too, because powerful men tend to attract them? Oh, well. Never mind.
I don't think those other men's wives were dying of cancer at the time.
Troubled, let me be blunt. If his wife had cancer she was probably too sick for sex...and there is a long (if not noble) tradition of men taking mistresses under those circumstances. In fact, there is a high divorce rate for men (if not women) when the wife has a serious illness.
Gee I never realized how many of these dirt bags were Democrat's. I guess leaving the morals behind is a theme with Democrat's. Go Obama and your same sex marriage. Your in good company.
johnscott..tisk tisk..couldn't think of anything to add to the story so you stoop to that? sad little man
does that make it ok cassandra????? Cheating itself is despicable, anyone who cheats on a dying spouse is worse than that.
JohnScott ..you're theMan! Said well. "CHANGE ..YES WE CAN!" CHANGE we're getting.
One 'man' [used loosely] ExecutiveOrders a whole nation into 'HIS' notion of 'fair'?
Sounds a lot like what John McCain and Newt Gingrich did.
McCain parked his wife sideways in a rest home and walked out the door with his mistress.
Gingrich wanted a 3 way with his wife and bird face Calista. He left his wife for bird face.
To: John Scott-299785
YOUR WHITE ROBES AND HOOD ARE SHOWING.
Yes, German Gem, it is despicable...but it is also understandable, and in the good (or bad) old days it was tacitly condoned, that a man whose wife could not provide sex would look for it elsewhere. Needless to say, this did not apply to wives with sick husbands...at least, not as completely.
HA! Love that you rethugs conveniently leave out other rethugs when talking about dispicable behavior!! You're not kidding anyone.
The democrats John Scott mentioned (comment 3.3) did not exploit their "family values" as many Republicans involved in sexual escapades did.
You must be a home wrecker. Feeling guilty? Need to defend your own behavior?
Cassandra: It's been a while, but as I recall, the wedding vows go something like this: "forsaking all others...in sickness and in health..."
Not a lot of latitude there for cheating when one spouse or the other cannot "perform".
Very reasonable comments by Cassandra. Also to note that women of today have a lot more freedom as far as how they handle sick husbands than olden days, and a lot of them seek sex elsewhere, just like husbands do. The fact is that it is for the two people to handle and never anyone else's business or judgement.
HadEnough: You seem remote from reality. Marriage vows are said by habit and tradition at the ceremony. Marriage is not a punishment, it is for the two involved to be happy together; not for a third person to tell what they should do. The Edwards didn't make their children a social burden and that is the only rightful concern anyone else should have
I disagree, tes. I am living in my reality, the way I believe it should be. I chose to make that vow, and will live by it...happily. If a couple is unwilling to accept that reality, they have no business cheapening the sanctity of the marriage ceremony by repeating words they don't mean out of "habit and tradition".
But we are all forgetting one thing. He is being tried for misusing donated funds, not for adultery. And as for the proposed sentence of 20 years...he could have KILLED his wife and faced less time in prison.
Cassandra: I'm not forgetting that...I think it's a real telling indicator of how screwed up our "legal system" is. His adultery actually has very little to do with this whole trial, but the righteous indignation of the general population (most of whom are not much better) has fanned this small flame into a roaring fire!
It's a disgrace to ask this young lady to choose between her father (and his horrendous actions), and her late mother. Cate Edwards should be left to mourn her mother's passing (and her father's betrayal of his wife and family) in peace. Is there no end to the exploitive nature of this smooth talking, weak-willed man? Thank God he did not become President (or a candidate).
geez woman - Cate's a lawyer! What do lawyers DO? Piece it together. She'll lie like a rug, smile, shed a tear at the appropriate moment and "move" the people and laugh all the way to the bank.
troubdrgrl: This is not a divorce trial, but a campaign fund related trial. So anyone taking the stand has no business 'choosing' between Edwards and his wife.
She will have a hard time defending that sleeze.
just when we think he couldn't stoop any lower
She is a better daughter than he deserves. I don't know how she is doing it, unless maybe there is more to the family relationships than we are all privy to.
its all about money
How so?
daddy's worth more out of jail than in jail
Strong, like her Mother.
her mother should have used every last breathe to divorce this piece of crap
She did. Google it if you're not sure.
Pat, they were separated NOT divorced.
The girl is a 30 year old well educated adult. If chooses to help defend this turd then I can't really feel sorry for her.
I agree Chris A. Its not like she's a child, she's a highly educated woman. If she choses to stand beside her father after all he's done, I don't have an ounce of pitty for her. Frankly I don't know how she can even be in the same room with the man. But to each their own.
John Edwards is a bad person even for a lawyer.
that speaks volumes!
I do feel sorry for Cate Edwards. Having that slimeball for a father must be very difficult. And defending him must seem "other-worldly".
He may be a sleaze, he may be a skum bag, but from the evidence presented he did not break the Campaign finance law. That is what he is being tried for not being a good for nothing human being. and that is what he turned out to be but so far the evidenvce shows he did not commit the crime for which he is accused.
Elizabeth knew of the affair, he used the money to hide the affair and pregnancy from the voters, that is campaign money. He should get what he deserves, jail time and a hefty fine.
What a horrible father/man. This poor lady lost her mother to cancer all the while daddy is screwing around. I'd let them lock him up before I'd testify to help him. They'd consider me a hostile witness and they could lock me up before I'd help him. What a pig!
Maybe she knows her mom better than we do and it's not that hard to sympathize with pop.
By all accounts Elizabeth Edwards was a horrible person. That doesn't excuse his sleazebaggery, but at least it explains it.
Sleeze is hardly the word that I would have used but I agree with the sentiment. Unfortunately too many of our so called leaders on both sides of the aisle are little or no different as far as the money part is concerned. I hope that the children don't turn out like their father.
I want me on of them $500 haircuts man. Oh yeah, and thank God for voluptuous brunetts.
The one time I was a witness in a criminal proceeding, I was not allowed in the courtroom until I testified. I was not allowed to listen to witness testimony, so as not to be able to change my story.
I was attacked on my front porch by a huge ex-prison guard from NY, my laptop computer was smashed and broken against the concrete wall and then he threw me bodily through my front plate glass window, trying to cut my jugular as he yanked me back the other way forcing my neck onto the broken glass. I WAS in the computer business but had gone bankrupt trying to take care of my dying Mother at home.
2½ years later, after a zillion trips to the court for monthly "status reports", the trial finally occurs. My public defender (all I could afford) against his lawyer and I am sequestered in a concrete room and not allowed into the court room for 3 hours. Finally they called me in and my public "defender" had set me up (literally) as an "expert witness" to testify ONLY on the value of my broken computer. Then I was sent back out again.
The guy was adjudicated guilty of a misdemeanor, told to pay me for my computer and given a few months probation. What's wrong with this picture?? Everything? Citrus County Florida law is what's wrong where they render the best decisions money can buy.
Oh, the guy didn't pay me for the computer for a year (what the court gave him to do so) and I had to go through much more pain. Folks, this was assault at the least and attempted murder actually. Misdemeanor? No jail? Nothing but a slap on the wrist?? And I was not allowed into the court room AT ALL other than for the 2 minutes or so I was in there to ONLY state my professional opinion concerning the value of the computer. This stuff goes on EVERY day here. The guy continued harassing myself and my Mother forever after even though told by the court not to go anywhere near me. He'd drive by screaming obscenities at us, threatening to kill me, etc.
Florida is a great place to live - as long as you have the money to protect yourself as he did.
What????
Why do I get the feeling we aren't getting the whole story? Like why did he have it out for you? And why did you need a public defender if he was the one on trail? The prosecutors would handle your end and I'm sure would have called you to the stand to help convict the other guy.
Agreed, there is no such thing as a "public defender" if you aren't the defense. There would be a state prosecuting attorney, who you wouldn't hire or have to "afford." And the whole story makes no sence. If there was a restraining order on him, then he would be in violation of his probation by doing what you say he did and would be put in prison.
And I am no lawyer, but wouldn't there be a seperate civil case for the damaged property, and a criminal prosecution for the assault?
I am calling total fabrication.
Wow, one good for nothing lawyer asking his daughter, another of same, to testify FOR him? I wonder what her fee is for this "kindness"? Lie like rugs. How do you tell if a lawyer is lying? If their lips move.
Cate obviously craves her father's love and probably feels bad that her father, having had sex with an ugly tramp, is now a half sister to a bastard child.
---And why would she not???---- 72 % of all married people have had sex with someone else( that we know of), and 16 % of them have children with someone else, so why is everyone dishing on that--The real issue is that he stole and did not pay taxes on campaign money!--You still can not to be punished by USA law for making a child on anyone over 15-18 Years of age, depending on state!
Just when you think John Edwards can't sink any lower he allows his lawyer to put his daughter on the stand to try and save his ass. Hasn't he hurt his family enough? If he were any kind of man he would admit to misusing the money and suffer the consequences of his actions rather than put his daughter through the agony of testifying. This man will use anyone to get what he wants. I hope he's found guilty and the judge throws the book at him. He deserves nothing less.
he deserves jail of course but we are allowing a person to operate as potus who still has not opened his documents... why dont we just let the criminals out of prison and stop all the charades. Ron Paul has told us the fed is causing our financial problems, the foreign policy we operate is unconstitutional and he is called names... even by the republic-demo-rino greedy thugs...
And just what documents hasn't he made public? He has you just refuse to accept them because they don't fit into your warped world.
If it was anyway Edwards could shift the blame to his Daughter he would, just a low life person!
Parents are supposed to protect their children. Not implicate and exloit them. This man is the bottom.
A Harvard "child"--is hardly a Child anymore at 30!-- I have 2 PHD girls, and they know everything at very grown up life/level, even at 27!---But I do not steal money from official accounts; what I do with a woman is not of their business and vise verse--we are far too intelligent to dish on each other about that fairly irrelevant side in the bigger picture!
I don't care which political party he belongs too because both parties have members (pun intended) that put it in the wrong places. What gets me is that both parties try and make a stand for morals only to have their morals or lack there of blow up in their face.
As far as the crime he is being tried for, I have not seen any proof that he is guilty. Everyone here is trying to find him guilty of bad morals. (Guilty as charged) But as to the crime so far not guilty.
Then again tabloid news is all this is worth and nothing more. Here is more of our tax dollars being wasted. Both political parties waste more money on sex escapades. But neither party has the moral conviction to clean house.
no he set up a illegal cabal to hide the fact of the girl and the baby by getting donors to pay her off. now if you dont see a illigality using campaign donors to do this then we are doomed. obama spent a 150k to keep wright quiet until after the election. is that okay with you. amazing how you kool aid drinkers think.
My gut feeling is that somebody's guilty of something...I'm just not sure who or what! Supposedly, the money he directed to his mistress was "gifted" by wealthy donors. Did those donors know, and approve of, how the money was being used? If so, they had to know that the money they were giving would help to influence the election by keeping voters ignorant of the affair and child...a crime, if I'm not mistaken. Was the money given to Edwards, or directly to Young (?), and does it matter? Would they be campaign funds either way?
Edwards' marital misconduct is one despicable thing, but not criminal. The issue here is the use/misuse of campaign funds...and if they truly were campaign funds.
Right now, as I type, millions of dollars are being sent to politicians to help them get elected. To both parties, and at all levels of government. And that money is, horror of horrors, being spent to influence the election. To put someone in office, to keep someone out of office, to pay for gas for the bus, or to buy ads on TV. And I can pretty much guarantee that not all of the donations are being spent exactly the way they were intended. Did someone on the team buy somebodies kid a McDonald's coke, when only the volunteers food would have qualified? Did someone buy a volunteer a hooker? Do you live in a vacuum to believe neither of those things have happened? All donations, by there nature, are spent to influence the election. You believe someone is evil incarnate, or someone else is going to lead the world to peace and happiness and a chicken in every pot. My view of this is probably different than yours. But remember this trial is about money, not morals. And most of the posts are about the later rather than the former. Get a life people, and make darn sure you are not living in a glass house. Cause all those stones could break a pane or two on your home turf. I didn't know Mrs. Edwards, and I am guessing most of you didn't either. I have never met John Edwards, and I can't judge what kind of a lawyer he is/was. Have any of you ever disappointed your kids, but still found them at your side when you needed them? And do you seriously believe all lawyers are scumbags? WOW, I would stack up the contributions to charity made by lawyers next to any other profession, and bet my own cash that you would find them equal or better. Did this man make poor decisions, yes, am I glad that he did NOT become president, yes indeed. But is he the devil, or just some stressed out idiot dude thinking with the little head and it really did backfire, but I am sure the teabaggers are happy at least he didn't pay for an abortion with this cash! I don't really know, and knowing how many stupid (in hindsight) choices I have made, it is amazing how many comments from perfect people I have had the opportunity to read. Yes, I could stop reading, but I am somehow very interested in the type of people that surround me everyday and how they see the world. But yep, it is scary too.
i wonder if his daughter has ever seen her sister? to use your daughter to try to get you off is the loewest form dirt you can be. he made millions from ambulance chasing. even as a politition he used the same tactics. what sad about this is his wife long and almost forgotten. the one thing to make this right is to convict him and dis-bar him. he can then disappear in shame to sit in a chair and think about what he did. he used his wifes sickness for political gain while having this woman on the side. amazing the kind of people we put in office! by the way where was the media in this it took the national enquirer to ferret the story out. were they hiding these things like they are doing now for the community organizer.
What this country needs is about 50% of the lawyers be marched out in a field and be FIRED! Upon.
well when socialist take over the first thing they do is shoot all the lawyers. my favorite line of a movie with the arnold in it "red heat". if we do all there college debt would have to be payed by the tax payers. not very inviting.
stonepipe
This is a quote from an American legend...John Wayne. I have never seen a $5,000 dollar lawyer settle anything a 5 cent bullet could not settle in a lot less time. Not that I believe it so much it as he did say it.
Now, now, now, I only said 50%. I'm not a total jerk.