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Subscribe to RSSThe defense rested Wednesday without calling John Edwards or his daughter Cate to the stand. Analysts say not testifying carries risks. NBC's Lisa Myers reports from Greensboro, N.C.
Updated at 6:56 p.m. ET: John Edwards' fate could rest on what the word "the" means when his corruption trial enters its final phase Thursday morning.
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Closing statements in the former Democratic presidential candidate's trial begin Thursday at 9:15 a.m. ET in U.S. District Court in Greensboro, N.C. That's where Edwards — a former U.S. senator and the 2004 Democratic vice presidential nominee — is charged with six felony counts of accepting about $1 million in unreported campaign donations from two wealthy supporters at a time when federal election law limited individual political contributions to $2,300 per election cycle.
Jury deliberations are expected to begin Friday.
The trial unexpectedly moved closer to a conclusion when Edwards' lawyers abruptly rested their case Wednesday morning without calling Edwards or his onetime mistress, Rielle Hunter.
After the jury was dismissed for the day, David Harbach, the chief prosecutor for the Justice Department, and Abbe Lowell, Edwards' lead attorney, haggled for more than two hours about the instructions U.S. District Judge Catherine Eagles will read to the jury after closing statements.
Perhaps the most contested issue centers on the language of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 (.pdf), the statute Edwards is accused of having violated, which specifies that excess contributions are illegal if they are made "for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office."
The most important word is "the." Edwards' lawyers argue that it means the jury must find that Edwards conspired to accept illegal contributions solely to help his presidential election campaign.
The government, by contrast, essentially argued that it can be read to mean "a purpose," contending that the contributions were illegal if Edwards used the money to influence the election along with other purposes, such as sparing his wife, the late Elizabeth Edwards, the humiliation of the affair.
Eagles indicated late Wednesday afternoon that she will instruct jurors that the government doesn't have to prove that the payments by billionaire heiress Rachel "Bunny" Mellon and the late Fred Baron were for the "sole benefit" of influencing primary elections in January 2008.
But she said she would also tell them that a guilty verdict should be based on something more than just a side benefit to the Edwards campaign. Specifically, Eagles suggested that the jurors should be told that if they find that the real purpose of the payments was personal, the money cannot be considered an unlawful contribution.
Eagles could still change her mind about some issues before she files the final instructions Wednesday evening. They won't be made public until Eagles gives them to the jury after closing arguments, which are expected to stretch well into Thursday afternoon.
No Edwards or Hunter
It was a subdued ending to the defense phase of the trial, disappointing scores of people who had lined up two hours before court opened, anticipating they might get an opportunity to hear from Edwards, Hunter and Edwards' daughter Cate Edwards Upham.
Legal analysts had predicted that Upham would certainly testify Wednesday and that Edwards was likely to.
But Lowell rested the defense case after Eagles denied another attempt to introduce evidence that Donald McGahn, a member of the Federal Election Commission, disagrees with the government's theory that the payments for Hunter constituted illegal campaign contributions.
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Lowell tried to introduce an audiotape of McGahn saying at a July 2011 FEC meeting that, even assuming everything the government claims is true, the payments were contributions that should have been reported.
The audio is available here from the FEC's website.
But Eagles said, "I don't think the opinions of others ... are particularly helpful to this jury" — essentially the same reasoning she gave last week in ruling out testimony from former FEC members who had been expected to say they also thought the contributions were legal.
The jury was left with the final testimony of Jim Walsh, a former FBI agent hired by the defense who traced the money trail.
Walsh testified Tuesday that Baron, finance director for his presidential campaign, gave Hunter monthly payments totaling $74,000 in the second half of 2008 — well after the campaign had ended and some of it even after Edwards publicly admitted the affair.
Former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards has faced public and private challenges throughout his life and career.
"The only logical reason for making these payments at the time they were made was exactly what John Edwards has been saying: 'I'm trying to protect my wife from finding out that I'm the father of Rielle Hunter's baby,'" said Kieran Shanahan, a former federal prosecutor.
Another major point of the defense argument is that Edwards didn't know what the money from Baron and Mellon was being used for, a contention that was supported Tuesday by John Moylan, who worked in both of Edwards' presidential campaigns.
Moylan testified that Edwards was shocked to learn in August 2008 — several months after the fact — that Mellon had been paying to help support Hunter and keep her from the public eye. The money was given through checks falsely labeled as furniture purchases through Andrew Young, who was once a top aide to Edwards and is now his chief accuser.
Referring to Young as "that damn Andrew," Edwards told Mellon, "Bunny, you should not be sending money to anyone," Moylan testified.
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Regardless of the outcome of this trial, he's a Bum with a capital B.
And you read every word or heard every piece of testimony to "know" from what you speak.
LL
He's a bum for cheating on and lying to his dying wife, MasterQ-- you don't need to read every word or hear every piece of testimony to "know" this.
Any human with a conscience, with even a shred of a moral fiber, with a heart in their chest knows this. Why don't you?
This guy needs to slither back under the rock he came from. Bum is to nice of a word to describe this scum bag.
Just think of how many other politician keep their deep secrets from the American people like this scum bag did. How many more of them are thieves, liars and scum bags, most of them.
Marla,
Because even scumbags deserve to judged by their Maker not by me nor by you.
LL
Sharriannie,
Probably at the same per centage as is the rest of America. After all that is the group that politicians come from.
LL
M Q
Read flylowguy's post a few more times.... Maybe you'll get it.
He said "regardless of the outcome of the trial"
Yeah, Edwards is a scumbag. Were you raised by wolves?
Tired-of-it,
:>) Nice but off target. Why are you so quick to judge this man? My turn for a mis-disdirection question, Were you raised in a non-Christian home where everyone was allowed to judge everyone else's behavior towards others or were you taught to let their Maker do the judging?
LL
The prosecutor is relying on the jury to find him guilty for being a cheat and scumbag, (which he has shown he is); the defense is relying on the prosecution did not show beyond a reasonable doubt that he sidetracked the money from the campaign; the Judge has a problem, she refused to, allow the former head of the elections commission to testify in chambers he said that what Edwards did was not a violation of Election rules, but was a IRS violation, which he is not charged with; either way the jury may hang on the evidence. The judges ruling , if convicted ,may throw out the verdict on appeal.
MasterQ-- He's a lying, cheating bum. Does it make him worse in God's eyes than me or you? No. Sin is sin is sin is sin is sin. But, if I'm a lying, philandering scumbag, I'd all but expect to be called thus by my fellow humans-- with a good, hearty, "Shame on you, Marla," to boot.
Final judgment, of course, shall rest with the maker. Doesn't mean the rest of us can't call a spade a spade.
Two election cycles in a row we get a serious (if unsucccesful) candiddtae who abandons their primary relationship when it is most needed. GIve thanks the country was saved from being governed by either one.
Marla,
So you're ready with the big scarlet letter A. No one can make a mistake, no one can error without the fear of Marla coming by and pointing her finger at them and declaring Shame, shame, shame.
LL
MasterQ, he painted his own Scarlet letter on his chest. Consider this... if there was no judgment on earth, MasterQ, there'd be no need of prisons, no courts, no police officers. Why should the man who kills or steals be judged and sent to prison if only God himself judges?
so we can't call an adulterer an adulterer? We can't consider anything shameful? People make mistakes all the time, sure. And when somebody makes the mistake of lying and cheating on a spouse dying of cancer, they're going to be called a bum by just about anybody with an ounce of honesty.
Doesn't mean I'm sinless-- far from it. But I'm honest.
Thank god it's over. I'm so sick of hearing about this stupid case. Edwards hasn't been relevant since 2004.
"...he painted his own Scarlet letter on his chest." No You are doing it via this thread.
"Consider this... if there was no judgment on earth, MasterQ, there'd be no need of prisons, no courts, no police officers. Why should the man who kills or steals be judged and sent to prison if only God himself judges?" Ah yes. That is exactly why we have a court system. But you are declaring him a scumbag and have not heard one word of testimony. Besides, adultry is no longer a crime in this country or in those districts where it has not been taken off the books has not prosecuted in years. So you are judging him for his adulerous conduct not the courts.
I am honest also. So if that was an attempt to reach and secure the moral high ground it failed.
LL
You know, and I'm even willing to say, "he WAS a bum." I don't know his heart. What he did was horrible. No different than what a lot of people do, I'm sure-- but his was front page news. He hurt his children. Has he repented? Is he truly sorry? Is he currently a bum? Only God knows, that.
To that end, MasterQ, I'll concede your point.
MasterQ, lying isn't a crime, but should be condemned. Your point that only something "on the books" should be judged is ludicrous. And again-- I don't care about testimony. It is acknowledged by he, himself, that he cheated on his dying wife, and had a child with the woman.
That doesn't make him a scumbag, MasterQ, because it isn't illegal?? You're okay with it, because he didn't break any laws by fathering a child while his wife died of cancer?
Again with the attempt to captivate the moral high ground. "You're okay with it, because he didn't break any laws by fathering a child while his wife died of cancer?" No where on this thread have I said his conduct was not reprehensable. I have just maintained that it is not for me nor for you to declare him a bum, that that is the man's Maker to do.
LL
I misunderstood your defense of him, MasterQ-- again, I'll just say, I learned about his adultery from his lips when he had to confess it to the media.
I'm not saying he should go to hell for devastating his wife. You're right-- that's God's job. That's where His judgment comes in. I don't know his heart. I don't know his repentance. I don't know if he's still a bum. He may be the most sincere and devout, repentant man that's ever walked the earth. I hope he is. But as I said above, he sure behaved like one, hence my agreeing with the original poster.
Just a guess, but the strategy may be to let the jury decide - if guilty, he should be able to appeal based on the judge not allowing evidence that the Federal Elections Commission had determined that the money was NOT campaign contributions (which is at the heart of the case).
If the jury finds 'Not Guilty', it's all over.
I still don't understand the judge's decision to not allow the evidence from the FEC - that's seems awfully arbitrary.
PS - I agree that Edwards is a moral flake, but there's no law against that.
Marla
Master Q is baiting you. No one can honestly think like he has written. God Bless Both of You.
According to some pretty valid statistics a full 60% of men cheat on their partners. Worry about your own souls guys and stop being so righteous just beause you haven't been caught.
Marla, Master Q is a troll...meaning you need to ignore him...next
Marla, I think you have made Master Q's day, Your probably the first person to give a s--t what MQ Say's. although you might want to just walk away, you know what they say never argue with a rock. Besides it might be comforting for Edwards to know that the all forgiving MQ, has his back. While the rest of the world see's a POS. But nice try!
Does a person go to a bar with the intent to drive home legally drunk? If he doesn't know there is a law against it, is he innocent? If he didn't know there was alcohol in the drinks, does that make it acceptable? If someone else was buying, does leave him without blame? To me anyway, that is the case Edwards is trying to make. The simple fact that "political" backers paid his mistress, and if there is ample evidence he knew it, that would make him guilty in my judgement. I do believe that Edwards is innocent until proven guilty and we will soon know what the judgement of the jury will be. It is enough for me that the process is doing what it should. I don't pretend to know all the facts but I would never vote for the man in the future.
LOL-- thanks, Paul, Watt and Teddy!
Roy Wilson; I agree, even if the testimony of a expert(and the election commissioner wrote the rules) goes to the facts of the case it must be allowed under the Federal Code of procedure; here is the problem, in a criminal trial if testimony is not allowed , you can not make a record of a proffer(as to what the person would testify to), in a civil trial you may make a proffer; it appears the female judge is acting as a co-prosecutor, if you pull up her background she was not considered a good choice for the bench.
Marla,
John Edwards doesn't really feel guilty. He may be remorseful about his treatment of his wife because of how that looks to the public, but I am willing to bet that he thinks she would have, and should have, dealt with it if given the time and/or acceptance of his reason for it.
In his subconscious mind his life partner, Elizabeth was abandoning him. She was abandoning him in several ways, they had grown apart, she was no longer keeping up her appearance, she was consumed by her cancer, she was fading away and going to die, and she was involved in a great deal of self centered drama and emotion. Her tragic story was overwhelming and stealing from the attention he needed to become President. She became this huge grey cloud blocking out his sun.
The subconsious mind can be very cruel. It is that crazy little dictator in us all that wants us to survive first and answer for it later. John needed the positive reinforcement he got from Reille to deal with his wife on any level. He could not let himself sink into her tragedy, her dispair, and still succeed in reaching his goals. His little dictator made it very clear, either give up the quest for Presidency and attend to your wife, or keep going with Reille's help. He chose to keep going. He never stopped loving his wife, but he couldn't really return to her either.
@James And Elizabeth Edwards when finding out about the affair insisted that John keep running for President..
I hope this slimy ambulance chaser gets at least a decade in jail out of the 30 potential years. He's no bargain and apparently neither was his wife from all accounts. I wonder if they'll give him a $900 haircut in prison?
Paul, Watt and Teddy,
Do all three of you just marginalize everyone who may disagree with you or your philosophy or is it just because you know you would be up against someone who dares to think for himself and can articulate it. Marla is not afraid to stand up for what she believes in. Apparently you three can't handle it.
LL
MasterQ-- I assume they have some knowledge of you that I don't? In any event, I always enjoy a verbal spar. Have a good day.
You can pretend to hide behind the Bible all you want, MQ, but you HAVE posted elsewhere (calling Boehner a liar, for instance. I happen to agree with that, but you had no problem judging HIM, did you?). I was almost agreeing that you were a troll, but I see what you are doing now. So I call you out as just a die-hard Democrat trying desperately to defend the indefensible, a scumbag of a politician regardless of political persuasion. As many people have tried to tell you, NOBODY can believe as you say you do. I call myself a Democrat, and I can't stomach this guy!
Marla said it best..."Any human with a conscience, with even a shred of a moral fiber, with a heart in their chest knows this. Why don't you?"
When will MEN ever learn? Was that SKANKY piece of ass was worth it Edwards?!
Reille was never the issue. It could have been anyone who met his minimum criteria.
A scumbag of the highest order, and guilty as sin. He can't just get money and use it as personal funds, that money would then be considered "income" which is taxable. He is a tax cheat and I don't believe this "Moylan" person, he was on Edwards payroll for years. Prison for this dirt bag.
Judge not lest ye be judged.
LL
Shows what you know! Edwards did not receive the money....Andrew Young and Rielle Hunter did. They are the "tax cheats" as you say. This was differently in very poor taste for such a high profile person, but if you have followed the story closely you'll find he broke no laws.
@MasterQ
TAke a break, there is no defending this evil scumbag!!
Sharriannie,
Watch what yu say now because St. Peter will have every word written in your book when you get there. He is a scumbag only if his Maker says he is. He is not a scumbag just because YOU think so.
LL
@mq
Right, the hell is the one we live in on this earth, fill with scrumbags and evil people, liars, thieves, baby killers etc etc etc. and what will be written in their book, forgiveness.
MasterQ... "St. Peter will have every word written in your book when you get there." I'm assuming this is in the Bible? Can you tell me exactly in which book and chapter is that written?
Edwards may be a slime ball for cheating on his wife, but the they have not made their case on the election finance law violation. It has been admitted by one donor and by a representative of the other that they knew what the money was being used for. Neither thought the money was for the campaign. In fact, Bunny Mellon even declared the money on her taxes as a gift to Edwards, which clearly shows it was not a campaign contribution. The fact that the payments to Hunter continued well after the Edwards campaign was over also clearly demonstrates that the true purpose was to hide Hunter from Edwards' wife, not to help the campaign. It may have been a side benefit, but it definitely was not the primary purpose, which is what they would need to prove to convict. The government simply has not made their case that this was a violation of campaign finance law.
Edwards says he was trying to protect his wife from learning he had fathered a child with Hunter? It seems to me that Edwards was trying to protect HIMSELF from the paternity being made known to anyone. He isn't a man who strikes me as being overly concerned with anyone but himself.
I look at this guy and can't believe I he's the same man I had hoped to see as president. Astonishing!
Although I would not have hoped to see him as POTUS, I agree with you 100% on everything else.
Scumbag he may be, but what was presented he did not cimmit fraud with campaign funds. They were not donated to the campagin, but also look who got the money and a million dollar house. But he is a liar and a cheat, but he cannot go to jail for being a liar and cheat.
LADY JAG would you feel the same way if Rick Perry had done the same thing with his presidential campaign?
Actually you can go to jail for being a liar. That's one of the reasons he did not testify.
Avg Joe,
I hate Perry's politics but if the prosecution is trying to invent a new crime against him as they aretrying to against Edwards then he(Perry) to should be found not guilty.
LL
On a different note: He has his parents by his side now that he is in trouble but where were they when he was running for president? I guess he sees some value in their presence now. What a pathetic user.
Agree Vacula! They are so elderly! I am sure they are loving this! Poor mom and dad being dragged through Edwards' mud.
I hope this good Democrat, Criminal gets the 30 year sentence.
Morally he's scum. BUT did nothing wrong here. Nothing to see....keep moving.
I tend to think you're right-- with the qualifier, "did nothing LEGALLY wrong." We'll see what the jury says.
Actually Marla, I do agree with you on the fact that Edwards is a scumbag. First of all he should have been totally honest with Elizabeth about everything from the get-go. Maybe if he had this whole thing could have been avoided. The fact that he cheated on her with Hunter and had a kid with Hunter is just despicable beyond any means. It just amazes me that most men who cheat on their spouses then lie about it actually think they can get away with it. The bottom line is he should have taken responsibility for his own actions and he didn't.
Well, Sue, let's be fair-- it's both ways. Women do the same, with the same thoughts of getting away with it. Adultery is a two-way street. What makes it worse in this case is knowing she was dying of cancer. I mean, that just stinks-- how do you get your head around that one? Wow. The fact that she didn't want him to pull out of the race no doubt means she was as messed up as he was-- that's just weird.
They need to make him a symbol so that no one else steals money like this. Give him 50 years, no parole plus a 10 million dollar fine.
But he(Edwards) didn't steal money! The people donated the money knew what it was being used for! Andrew Young stole money....He used money that was to "take care of Rielle" and had a house built-not for Rielle but for his family! Edwards should have taken him to small claims court!
@Lisa Who stole the money? Andrew Young...
I don't believe for one second that this piece of scum was trying to protect his wife. I will always believe that he was trying to salvage his career. That being said, I am not 100 percent certain that Elizabeth did not know something about this..I think she was as power hungry as he is. I believe everyone from top to bottom was trying to conceal this baby.
I just don't know enough about the laws to make a descision on his guilt or innocence on the charges he is facing, but I do know these people are all slimy...read about Rielle Hunter and her past. Many of our past presidents and leaders have had some isssues...Jefferson,JFK...I think I read something about Eisenhower...I just don't remember it being so sleazy, but that might be a reflection of our times with the internet out there we learn a lot really fast. What bothers me most is that Edwards is a wealthy man and the money is what makes it just really creepy.
He is guilty as hell...
He is NOT guilty..
I agree, he is a scum bag, but from the evidence provided I don't think he is guilty of what he is charged with. Being an ass is not a crime......yet!!
The fact that he was a political candidate had nothing to do with the "donation" of a significant amount of money ($1 million)... yeah right!!! I mean every guy out there who has a mistress and a baby with the mistress has someone who is "donating" large sums of money to him to hide the mistress and baby from this wife... yeah right!!! Lets' face it the money was "donated" because he was a political candidate... If he had been a truck driver or factory worker, you can be sure he would not have been "given" $1 million to "hide" the mistress and baby...
It kind of reminds you of good old Bill Clinton" I did not have sex with that woman" funny how these politicians look you right in the face and lie. Then they act like confused children when the truth is put right in front of their eyes.
I doubt it.......I would be willing to bet if this happened and he had not been running for president, some of his wealthy "friends" would has been helping him conceal her! You don't really think he would have done the right thing, told his wife, claimed paternity and paid his part do you??? You know he couldn't have paid her off secretly with his own money...Elizabeth was to nosey for that..........come on!!!
@ Vinca Just because he was a political candidate means nothing whether the donors gave Andrew Young money or not.
I hate was Edward did to his wife and he is a A---hole. I can't stand R Hunter but it looks as if the people that received the most money is Andrew young and his wife.
Proving the trickle down theory works
Edwards didn't need to put on much of a defense because the prosecution doesn't have a case...
One usually doesn't have much of a case when you try to invent one.
LL
Master, if the FBI did the investigation then more then likely he will get off but in reality the guy is guilty as sin. Sometimes in life there is on piece of poon tang that makes a man lose his mind, there are so may factors to consider when that happens, sometimes it just feels unlike any other poon he ever had, or sometimes it is the scent of a woman that is just irresistable, I could go on and on about it but you get my point if you ever had more then one piece in your life.
Bottom line, the guy committed a crime and nobody invented anything about it except himself.
@South Philly What crime?
John Edwards won't do a minute in jail, simple reason, The system is corrrupt and they will protect their own. The big fish don't get caught, unless they step on the other big fish.
At least one went to the big house - Blagojevich. Wouldn't it be nice if Edwards joined up with Blago at the big house washing dishes!!
Blago and Edwards probably wouldn't spend their time washing dishes. Most likely, their days would be spent getting their hair styled.
This is the first time a trial with these types of charges have been tried. I can feel the sudders throughout DC if Edwards is found guilty. If anyone thinks Edwards is the first politican to funnel campaign funds to personal acquaintances, you have to be out of your mind. If he's found guilty, lets line em up, and watch them drop.
He may not have know who, specifically, was providing the hush money, but he knew that his campaign was carrying out his wishes to send money to his mistress to keep her quiet. I promise you, he is not innocent of anything.
I am kind of confused by Edwards arguement here.
He says he wanted to keep Elizabeth from finding out he'd fathered a child by Hunter, then he turns around and argues that he didn't know they were paying Hunter hush money.
How did he think they were hushing Hunter up, with duct tape and bailing wire?
Darn it! I've been waiting to hear what that homewrecking crackpot had to say! Then the perfect followup would have been that sleazebag Edwards!
Guess I'll put the popcorn away....
It's George Bush's fault I know it
none of you really expected him to take the stand, did you? having not seen the trial first hand i have no real idea what the evidence will show, however, edwards is definately guilty in the publics eye. i'm sure this wasn't the first extra marital affair he's had. he strikes me as a serial fornicator. wouldn't be at all surprised if there were a whole bunch of other little jonnies or johnettes running around out there.
Of course they're not going to testify. The defense lawyers don't want them to stick their sleazy foot on their sleazy mouth and then maybe have to do damage control. It worked for Casey Anthony, another slimeball.
Call all the names you want, he'll probably be found inocent anyways. The wealthy have that way about them.
Yes, let us take bets----99-1 that he never actually goes to jail--unless there is something we have not heard!
Let us use him as a tool for lessons for others (like death penalty for poor people), get him fixed--oh no, wait, then he would qualify for disability, and free Viagra approved by even the Republicans!!!--well well!--help me here!!!
This slick man is a looser, in many ways!--that is why he took up politics so he could help himself to more fame, and a bigger girl following!!
In my opinion, if this trial ends in a conviction, Edwards will have an excellent chance to win on appeal and have the verdict set aside.
The judge in this case has made far too many mistakes helping the government make its case.
What I don't understand is why Reille Hunter needed $9K a month over and above what she got for housing expenses? What on earth did she need that kind of money for? I couldn't spend $9K/month if I had it. Could she have been engaged in extortion/blackmail?
Apparently she spent allot of money on FDS for him to lose his mind over a piece of arse.
Hush mouth money...and money to keep up that $500,000 house they brought for her right here in Charlotte, NC in a neighborhood that welcomed her like she wasn't a married man's concubine..... UNBELIVABLE !!!!
Look at that picture of his parents being dragged into court. You would think they'd be mortified that their son, John Edwards turned out to be a lieing, cheating, disgusting "man". What a disgrace he is. A true embarrasment I'm sure but even they are backing up his lies it seems. Shameful.
A parents love is unconditional Liz, you are so right to say he is a disgusting man to grag them in court to be mortified by their son's actions.
@LIs & South I'm sure the parents wanted to come..If they didn't there's no way in hell they'd be there. So He didn't drag them into court.
OMG!not another man with his brains at the frontal bottom of his torso!! Now! THIS is where the word CHOICE should be enacted! How they all yell it at the kids etc, well they are adults who know very well when you play, you pay, and he should, the heartless jackass! What a sad, sad way for his wife to leave this world. My heart aches & breaks for her, the same for John McCain's ex. Somewhere I would think, there MUST be some decent, honest, efficient politicians who do not think they are above the laws of the land & their Christian Nation. Aren't we a little sick of the embarrassments of these highly paid smut-ers with all their benny's, huge retirements etc, some becoming millionaires off our backs?? PUKE ON THEM!!
Damn Edwards, Reillle Hunter's poon tang was either lined in gold or tasted like Kobe beef to pay that much money and lose your career over it.
I had allot of good poon in my life and the most I would pay for it was the amount it cost for a hotel room and dinner.
Move over Blago, your new roommate will be there soon! LOL