It's almost ironic that the cops formed a gang to combat gangs. The Los Angeles County sheriff are a bunch of arrogant A-hole cowboys, that are far from professional. Cops like these are probably the reason good cops get shot in the face during a routine traffic stop.

They are gang members, and since they are also police officers, they need to be dealt with harsher than any other gang members. Private citizens better learn to protect their families, even if it means learning military tactics. That day will surely come. Ask any of the victims of Nazi Germany, if any are still alive

Just FYI -- gang membership, in and of itself, is not illegal. Actions committed by the gang that run counter to law are dealt with on the merits of the act committed, with some states adding additional penalties to crimes committed by known gang members, but simply being a member? Not illegal.

I read in the news once that LAPD pledged to learn something from Rodney King. So ... this is the result of their learning?

Bunch of Vic Mackey wannabes :D

It's becoming more and more difficult to discern between the good guys and the bad. All law enforcement needs to be reigned in, as more and more, it's become "Cops Gone Wild". They've been given the legal authority to kill, but more often than not, the protection of the Thin Blue Line when they overstep their boundaries.

WMG-21,if I remember correctly La county did pass a law many years ago making it illegal to belong to a gang.

Its easy to be a gang member thug when you have the firepower and legal system of the US govt behind you.

PacMan is back...........

These gangs are such fine upstanding citizen that they should be given civic awards. the next time a gang commits some noteworthy crime, let's all watch everyone complain. Let the gangs destroy the state.

Wow. They got tattoos. How terrible. I guess the higher ups are worried more about their press than actually curbing crime.

"Stop or I'll yell Stop again".

Pigotry: haven't you noticed? Lesson #1 is "confiscate all video cameras". They tried after the Oscar Grant shootng, but they missed one, and that's all it took.

Playing devils advocate here, if they are taking out the thugs and criminals, doesn't the end justify the means? You can't nice a thug away, and you can't clean the streets from these criminals without harsh measures.

Stupid reporters keep calling it 'paid' leave.

Is there any other job where I could violate the public trust,get caught,and still get paid?

Just goes to show you;if you are a cop you can do whatever you want and when you get caught you get a 3 month paid vacation,then you go to another state and get your job back so you can do it again!

YEAH,I'm gonna teach my kids to trust cops!(NOT!)

I've said it before and I'll say it again..

As long as we continue to promote police and district attorney's based on how many arrests and convictions they get we will always have corruption.WHY ARE SHERRIFF'S THE ONLY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY PUT INTO OFFICE BY PUBLIC VOTE? Police officers should be voted in every 2 years with their arrest and or court records on view! They should be accountable to us!

POWER CORRUPTS and ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY !!!!

I taught my daughter that the only time you should trust a cop is when there is an imminnent danger from someone that you can't deal with yourself and even then don't trust them with anything but your immediate threat! And never,ever,ever let them in your house! They are human and they will take advantage of you as soon as they feel thay have a chance to without getting caught! I have an uncle who is a cop and two friends who have brothers for cops.They all are involved in some sort of corruption,or know of another cop who is and won't turn in the ones who are(which makes them complicit in a conspiracy,and thus guilty of a crime).

The members of this police force should ALL be purged and be prevented from rejoining any police force in america,theres no way you will ever convince me that the other police officers didnt know about this!

Police are supposed to be there to protect and serve US! Instead they protect and serve themselves! Dont trust,them they are mostly just gov't paid(by us) organized crime!

LEGALIZE MARIJUANA!

The problem, thepunisher, is after some time, you become what you are supposed to be fighting against, and when that happens, it has a negative effect on the whole society.

Does the end truly justify the means? As a law abiding citizen, for me, the answer is "no".

Cheetah... thats because it is paid leave. they are required to pay them while they are on this type of "duty". They are not punished right now. Mainly, the department is not putting them on desk duty, they are removing them from the limelight all together. If they get punished, they will get suspended without pay... or termination.

WMG 21 is correct. No california did not outlaw gangs. Its unconstitutional to outlaw a gang. You can punish those in a gang for organized criminal activity, but you cant outlaw a membership.

While I understand the comradery of a group of men (whether soldiers or officers) fighting for a cause, there is a political point whereby officers must hold themselves to a higher standard of discipline. This does not bode well for anybody to see these officers displaying symbolized tattoos with markings for their "trophies" (killings). These officers may be some of the best most aggressive officers fighting to protect the public, but you tattoo yourself with a label of being this way does nothing for the reputation of the department or of the officers of the community.

What it comes down to is this... Are they members of the community doing a job they love in order to protect the community, or have they crossed that "line" in which they do the job because they love to attack the bad guy?

Wish I could go out of my way to do the exact opposite of what my job requires and get a paid vacation out of it. FTP!

K9Icepick No you are wrong about outlawing a gang. The term for it is an injunction Here is a link to the LAPD website http://www.lapdonline.org/gang_injunctions

These injunctions are all over California.

One would think that the other officers would really be pissed. About some of their Fellow officers slapping them in the face with this. A few bad apples making the whole department look bad. Guess they don't care. Maybe they thought they were the regulators MOUNT UP lol

@ Pigotry.... Ummmm LASO and LAPD are 2 totally different organizations. Rodney King was LAPD. This story involves LASO.

@ Pigotry... Rodney King wasn't a gang member..

scarletrayne

I always knew the cops were the real gang members ... SMH

Next time you get in trouble why don't you call a gang member, I'm sure they'd love to help you,moron. Not all law enforcement officers are bad - just like not all doctors are good! Sounds like you got busted for something you did and now you just have it in for all cops - that's probably it, isn't it!

As long as we continue to promote police and district attorney's based on how many arrests and convictions they get we will always have corruption.

Exactly. My son was knocked unconscious from behind outside a bar. Once on the ground, he was mercilessly beaten as he was helpless. An ambulance was called and he was taken to the hospital. The two men that did it were brought up on charges. One fled, the other went to court, but the DA dropped the case as the guy had several friends lie and claim he was not there that night. The DA told us in a letter that he was afraid he would lose the case and therefore harm his win loss record.

There is no justice in our corrupt elitist system. None.

Next time you get in trouble why don't you call a gang member

You don't eliminate the monsters by becoming one. And that is what our police are all becoming. Members of a large self protecting gang called the brotherhood.

@wtfies66-when you (you being the average citizen) call the cops the average response time is 25 minutes,chances are the reason you called them will already have passed, if you are a bank the average response time is 5 minutes. So unless you are a bank, you'd probably be better off calling some neighborhood gang for help. And like I said in post 1.15 You are right,not all cops are bad but the ones who aren't would never turn in the ones who are,for fear of being labeled a rat. THAT MAKES THEM COMPLICIT IN A CONSPIRACY AND THUS GUILTY OF A CRIME.

We need cops , i agree, but we need a better way of policing the police!

Has anybody checked those cops in Fullerton for tattoos?? Beating homeless people to death for no reason sounds right up their alley...

It's from NbcLosAngeles.com....liberal cop-hating, criminal coddling website....what do you expect....I didn't see where it said they were committing any crimes....that it was a Clique, not a gang, using aggressive police tactics in the mean streets of LA......Isn't that what the Fraternal Order of Police is ???...a cop-only members club ??.....Get them back on the Streets where they belong......

And what is this ?? .." deputies who target neighborhoods where gang violence is high, locate armed gang members and take their guns away, the Times reported."

....They don't arrest them, just take their guns away, like they don't have 10 more each where they got the ones they are carrying ??.....I say go one step further and make them draw that illegal gun....That's how you take gang bangers off the street...A few bangs at a time....

onlyyoucanchangethelaws

THAT MAKES THEM COMPLICIT IN A CONSPIRACY AND THUS GUILTY OF A CRIME.

I understand what you are saying, however, you are making assumptions that you can't support. Every profession has it's good and it's bad apples - and not every other person there turns them in when they see it. Try bring in a malpractice suit against a doctor and see how hard it is to find another doctor who will corroborate your allegations. It is inherently true that most law enforcement depts. are under manned (thank budgets and politicians for that) so response times seem out of hand, I agree. And when it comes to individual officers responding to a crime they are controlled by their superiors as to which get priority - it's not up to the individual officer, so you can't pin slow response times on them. If you were a cop and you depended on another to back you up but you have - for just cause - turned them in for some infraction (whatever) you might think whether you could depend on that cop to save your butt so you could go home to your family - there are a lot of issues that perhaps are not understood by everyone.

Most cops are honest and want to do a good job - and if it was up to them they would be "on top" of every crime that's happening as it happens. So I really you're giving them a bad rap - because you don't understand their limitations.

So far as gangs are concerned, you gotta fight fire with fire.

These officers were doing what they had to do and unless such techniques are used the gang epidemic is going to overtake civil life in US.

I applaud these officers and I hope they are allowed to do their work and keep our cities safe from the bastards of all these gangs.

@JoeyFromCali

No you are wrong about outlawing a gang. The term for it is an injunction Here is a link to the LAPD website http://www.lapdonline.org/gang_injunctions

Please note that these are injunctions against gang activity, not membership. From your own link (my emphasis):

A gang injunction is a restraining order against a group. It is a civil suit that seeks a court order declaring the gang’s public behavior a nuisance and asking for special rules directed toward it’s activity.

Because a "gang" is essentially a social club, they can't ban membership (it's a violation of the constitutional right to peaceably assemble, for one). They can, however, take legal action against the gang's criminal activity-- whether that's something as innocuous as noise complaints or as serious as murder. If gang membership were actually illegal, then most of Compton would have been rounded up by now and placed in a concrete pen.

wtfies66

Thats still no excuse.. you are a cop, you dont get to choose which criminals you arrest. you are supposed to arrest all criminals not just the ones who aren't your coworkers or friends. If i seen my brother shoot someone and didn't turn him in i would be charged as an accomplice . it wouldnt matter if i might need his help(backup) later on, AND THESE COPS WERE ALSO "CELEBRATING SHOOTINGS!"

WRONG IS WRONG IS WRONG, PERIOD ! END OF DISSCUSSION!

OH YEAH...

AS ALWAYS

LEGALIZE MARIJUANA!

Gunga,

Police are handicapped by political correctness from superiors, including political leaders and many organizations that want to keep them in check - for whatever reasons. The same mindset is applied to our military - the "winning the hearts and minds of the people" has NEVER worked in any of our current wars. And even farther back than Vietnam politicians have dictated the rules of engagement that have handicapped our military and caused many unneeded deaths of our military personnel. BTW, none of these rules of engagement or even the Geneva Convention has never inhibited any of our foes in battle.

So you can see why and how frustrated our police are - they have to battle by the rules - but the enemy does not!

The rules are there to protect the innocent from cops or sherriffs that celebrate shootings!

LEGALIZE MARIJUANA!

onlyyoucanchangethelaws

I understand....I can see that your mind is made up - based on obviously biased assumptions - so I won't bother to attempt to put any more logic into you reasoning.

I too understand wtfies66 and i just feel that the ends never justify the means! Police officers have been putting away the guilty without breaking laws or the public trust for a very long time.We definitely NEED police but they know the rules before they enlist and volunteer to work under these rules.You can't choose to break the rules you swore to uphold with the oath they took before enlisting. We just need away (maybe each captain should be a civilian with no police powers just a bosses power) to keep them in line better and stop things like this from happening! Its wrong ,and if you expect me to trust you (not you per say,but police officers in general) to walk around in public with a loaded gun then YOU AS AN OFFICER OF THE LAW AGREE TO BE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD THAN THE REST OF US !

I have not condemned your opinion as in this country everyone is entitled to their own, I just hope as in so many cases in this country that your blindfold of "its ok for the cops to break rules to catch criminals "doesn't come back and bite you or your family. I have seen it , I have experienced it , and I have read numerous articles of it happening to innocent people and the only way I can see to stop it is to hold them accountable to a higher behavior standard than we do of joe shmoe,thats all.

onlyyoucanchangethelaws,

Right. I was not defending them at all, when someone puts out a blanket statement that defames a whole group just because of the actions of a few that's not right either. Cops should be held to a high standard and I still contend that the majority are true to that standard. You have a right to your opinion - I was just throwing out some understanding that sometimes gets overlooked. How many of us have a job where we go to work and may very well face death before the day is over - I'm just saying - there are a lot of other considerations most of us never get exposed to. So, I don't accept but I can understand why when bad cops are exposed - they should be held accountable just like the rest of us would be - no special considerations.

And absolutely....our laws apply to all of us - break them, get caught, you pay a penalty.

Im sorry I was not trying to condemn all police officers i just said never trust them,same with doctors.Thats why when you go to a doctor there is almost always a nurse,to help with the trust thing.

Another way to put it is like with your kids and strangers! Not all strangers are murdering, kidnapping, theiving, pedophiles but you still teach your children to NEVER TRUST A STRANGER, EVER! Don't get me wrong Im not comparing cops to pedophiles, Im just saying never trust them because its better to not trust them and have no harm than to trust them and get screwed later. Just like during the tornadoes of last year, there were many police who volunteered inmy neighborhood but that doesnt mean they all did.

I did not mean to offend any police officers or anyone else and im truely sorry if i did>

I must have missed it when I was reading the article; what laws did they break? They may be using poor judgement but I didn't see anything that said they actually broke the law. They seem to be displaying a cowboy mentality but there are a lot of things being taken for granted that may not apply. I'd have to say that the job they are doing demands a certain personality that would lend itself toward showmanship and aggression, and that may be what led them to make a mistake or two about how they are displaying their comradery but, lest we forget earlier post, they are innocent until proven guilty. And, like I said, I didn't see any mention of any crimes. Was there?

Dan

I haven't read that they violated any laws either but the department is very conscience of their public appearance - and we all know what the "Court of Public Opinion" can do. They may have violated some internal codes and might stand a chance of being terminated, but I don't believe we'll see any criminal charges. These articles are not very informative and the Sheriff's Dept. is understandable less than forthcoming with details, so things could change.

LA has arguably the worst and most violent gangs in the US - that in itself is not a reason for their actions, but, in battle against a common enemy, you find powerful bonds develop within your team and you tend to do things that celebrate your survival under very difficult situations. Hi-fiving after a bar fight, or any violent arrest is most usual - tats that proclaim a shooting death are a bit extreme but I don't think that in itself is against the law.

Yep, that is exactly the point I was trying to make but you cut right to the bone. I don't know if I would act too much different in the same environment. Thank the lord above I don't have to find out! I feel for the people living in those areas. Are you allowed to own guns in L.A.?

Dan, I think you can get your answer in both of these links, but to give you a quick answer, yes you can own a gun in LA, type of gun may be a slight problem and concealed carry also is legal with permits.

www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/california.aspx

www.city-data.com/forum/los-angeles/232784-gun-ownership.html

@ onlyyoucanchangethelaws

For one thing their is no such thing as an innocent gangbanger, they'd as soon as kill you than have to fear your retaliation....you are the enemy.....cops are the enemy.....anyone who defies them is the enemy....we are not part of their world and don't deserve their loyalty.

You know sometimes you have to fight fire with fire....in my opinion these street gangs are nothing but domestic terrorist and should treated as such. Would you rather they send in Seal Team 6 to infiltrate and destory these Gangs of domestic terrorism, it happened with Pablo Escobar in Columbia, how long will it take before their at your door step with a gun in their hand ready to kill you or car bomb you only because someone told them to do it...you are the innocent....provided you haven't broken any laws, children are the innocent....the law abiding citizen is the innocent.......not a gun toting gangbanger ready to end your life over anything that piss' them off or only because their following orders. I for one would rather sleep better at night knowing these idiots are off the street by any means necessary....putting them in federal prisons only helps these gangs grow stronger and more incorrigible....their corruption is 10 fold....they learn nothing but of more ways to kill and execute innocent people like the Drug Cartels in Mexico and Columbia have done.

Gangbangers, just exterminate them just like you would any other vermin.

Nothing will happend to them they wii be moved to another department and get involved in some other criminial activities,it is amazing how criminials always have to leave a paper trail or video of their activities.

Law enforcement is the only job in the world that you can screw up on and get time off with pay ,any other place you will get fired or days off without pay,and after that they sue the city or county and get millions.

A gang in the gang unit. Imagine that. Tats and all.

The problem is you cant promote what you are trying to abolish.

The problem is that thugs that wear badges and collect a salary from taxpayers are still thugs.

I agree. There should be more "gangs" of police jumping out on all of these thugs and put a stop to their bu!!sh*t.

Foxy-SEAL....did you ? Are you a "teabagging" liberal ?

The problem is we don't think of gangs as terrorists. They should all be sent to Guantanamo.

Enough of this coddling the poor misunderstood kids who rob grandma.

Cops should know better but the government needs to stop treating domestic terrorists differently from international terrorists.

Great comment, Fordster!

Did you call somebody a "redneck", Foxy???.....sounds like a racist comment from a bleeding heart liberal.

God forbid they deal roughly with these gangs. no wonder California is a sinkhole.

Fordster - Appparently you're OK with alll of this because somehow you equate it with LIberals? I'm glad you're so firgggin dense - after alll, an opposition without a brain s bettter than no opposition at all.

When it comes to street gangs, fordster is right. Street gangs, thugs, and criminals are proof not everyone deserves the same rights.

absolutely. It should be ok to break the law as long as you are trying to uphold another law.... right? No, no wait... You should be able to violate civil liberties and constitutional rights if you call yourself the good guy, right?

Criminal gang members have rights too, as set forth in the constitution. So why dont we have more police gangs? Because it violates the public trust, police regulations and turns the public against the police.

Stupid comment Fordster

The problem is that there are rules for a reason. The role of a police officer is to enforce laws, not make their own. They often escalate the situation to a level that it wasn't at.

And it doesn't simply involve them going after gangs. It involves them doing whatever they want to whoever they want. I watched a cop in LA stop a man walking down the street and search him then spit on him. Then sent him on his way.

Does it seem like this encourages a good relationship with the community??? They are wannabe cowboys over here.

Fordster:

Wouldn't want to be the Dept's Public Relations mouthpiece attempting to explain away cell phone photos of the fellas exchanging high fives right before someone points out they are celebrating an accidental mistaken-identity killing of an unarmed single father of 5 autistic children. Oops! Can anybody say "Wrongful Death" Lawsuit with LA COUNTY typed above DEFENDANT in upper left hand of page one of pleading?

Where does it say that they're "terrorizing citizens"? Gang members forfeit their citizenship (if they even have it, in LA) when they commit their first felony.

"Gang members forfeit their citizenship (if they even have it, in LA) when they commit their first felony."

Huh? A bald-faced lie? On the internet? Whaaaaaaaat?

hey einstein the only "citizens" these guys are terrorizing are thugs and street criminals which if you had a clue would know commit the vast majority of homicides and thefts in la. please stop breathing.

Well, some citizens deserve to be terrorized such as these street gangs. No sympathy here.

Uncle Henry... And once they get rid of the gangs, who do you think they'll start terrorizing next? Regular, ordinary people.. Do you seriously they would be able to stop their aggressive mindset just because the gangs are gone? Yeah, okay.. If you believe that I have some beach front property in the middle of Kansas for sale; right on the ocean. And if you're interested I have a line on a bridge in Brooklyn that up for grabs..

Who said they were terrorizing citizens. In fact where does it say anywhere that these guys were doing anything other than their jobs. These officers were not a gang, they were and are a tight cohesive unit of crime fighters trying to protect the public from real criminals. The deserve an award.

thepunisher, spider

the cops formed a gang so you are saying that they should be terrorized? Any arguement you make against gang members goes out the window when you try to defend these cops... since they were gang members.

seriously, what is wrong with education in this country. They used to teach critical and logical thinking.

LusciousDC- Maybe you deal with one problem at a time. Get rid of the gangs and then worry about getting rid of ther brutal cops. Use the tactics for as long as you have to have them, then move on accordingly. It's like the soldiers that are sent on to combat; they are taught to kill while they are in the situations they are in and they are expected to not kill once they are back in civilian life. I know this is over-simplifying it but you get my point. 'Desperate times call for desperate measures'. Do you think Mexico needs a bunch of peace-loving, understanding social workers to go in down there to take care of the drug cartels? No, you need people that can react with violence when it is needed. People that can do that are going to be of a certain personality.

Remember Ullyses S Grant and William Sherman. They would probably have been considered war criminals with the tactics they used nowadays but they did what had to be done to end the war. Then they went back to less aggresive tactics.

Do you think the armed gang members would give up their guns if you said 'please'?

was gonna say the same thing keith

yes you are.............

haha. Hard earned tax dollars? Youre probably at home in public housing sitting there drinking drinks you bought with a food stamp card and are smoking cigarettes from the child support you get through the state from one of the four babys' daddy that does actually pay something. All the while youre new boyfriend is washing his expedition outside your house with his 22" $4000.00 rims.

Oops, did I say that out loud? oh well

K9: "Youre probably at home in public housing sitting there drinking drinks you bought with a food stamp card"

You can NOT buy alcoholic drinks with food stamps.

And YES you did LIE OUT LOUD. Oh a lot of well...shame on you!

haha, I thought the same thing!!!!!!!

I know what is the problem? Let these whiners go take on the Armed gangs if they don't like it!!! It's about time they take these "people" off the street and throw most of them who are illegal out of the country. Police are damned if they do and damned if they don't. I agree they should not be roughing up your average Joe, but when it comes to gang bangers, I say all is fair in love and war!!

You have to be naive if you think this cop gang is only doing good. To put a"notch" in your tattoo for shooting someone is absolutely disgusting. It will be interesting to see what the investigation reveals. Perhaps payoffs, drug money. Sounds like a territorial gang to me. These deputies are supposed to be upholding the law, not providing the gang bangers with another rival gang. The only differences between these deputies and the gangbangers on the street is that one of them is paid for by the citizens of LA.

smilingphoebs; I guess the number of "notches" in the tattoo would probably offend some liberal thinkers, however I'm thinking their saving taxpayers money by avoiding the cost of court , incarcerations, clothing, medical, housing etc. Works for me.

er2cc - Perhaps China would be a better fit for you. In America, there is a process and a person is innocent until proven guilty not just gunned down in the street.

er2cc one day they will come and take someones life thats close to you without trial or representation and then maybe you will lose that blindfold you are wearring!

er2cc

I guess the number of "notches" in the tattoo would probably offend some liberal thinkers, however I'm thinking their saving taxpayers money by avoiding the cost of court , incarcerations, clothing, medical, housing etc. Works for me.

Quite the uneducated fool aintcha?

er2cc: "I'm thinking their saving taxpayers money by avoiding the cost of court , incarcerations, clothing, medical, housing etc. Works for me"

Will it still work for you when YOU are the one on the receiving end?

Mabey er2cc can foot the multi million dollar wrongful death suit bill that will follow from that line of thinking. Seems to me your being rather liberal with other peoples money.

er2cc,the next time that you are stopped for a traffic violation if the cops just shoot you,like they have done a few people,that sure will same a lot of paper work and time.

So what I am hearing from you are only Blacks and Hispanics form gangs? No other race form gangs? What are the KKK? What about the Neo- Nazi? The Mafia and the various Asian gangs around the country? What about the terrorist that we are trying to protect this wonderful land from? I guess they are black/hispanic also, right? Better let them know this.

Thanks for the Retard Award.

I tell you all Blacks and Hispanics to stop you gang activity so we won't have to deal with morons like us who create police gangs to fight your gangs. I want you all to not be criminals, be happy and prosperous.

@edub blacks and hispanics are not the only race in gangs. Have a seat sweetie, your ignorance is showing!

instead of the environment you need to save whats left of that brain of yours.

Why not Henry, I'll make sure to take your advice under consideration. I tell you what, I save my brain cells and you save the environment. Deal?

Sam Trump,criminial minds do not learn from the past.

First rule of Cop gang - don't talk about cop gang.

LOL

@James --- Very articulate post. Indicative of the California educational system and union teachers. Hope you enjoy life in your Third World State.

james is the reason why i sent my kids to private school.

nice grammer

NC Vet, Uncle Henry & Thunder Alley - you've been duped. James from Cali is now what you think he is. Read some of his other posts.

I know from your other posts that you're a dupe. Anyhow I' respond to it. James, dats why dressin' da way o' street wit da hat to da side, pants down showin' da ass-wipe missin stain on da skivs ain't propper beat-down avoidin' scene by da cops! Look like a beat-down target, git one! Sorry, dude, but at this time folks take into what you look like first. Especially the cops! Why dress up the same way as the folks playing the game, dude? What's inside your attire takes a backseat to those dealing the action. The backside of Rap and Narco-Bandas I guess. Da Gansta look gets good folks killed inside the attire. Got mucho time in So-Cal, from Encino to Dog Patch. All of it. Some places you'll earn a dose of leadicillin for wearing a hat tweaked the wrong side or having the wrong color of attire/skin. Bottom line , the homie/cop sending you the beat-down/lead is doing so because he's made his decision on WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE, dude. Wear the attire of the enemy, attract the enemy. Nothing new, dress like a target, get treated like one. Just like the Nike and Reebok Militias crossing the line from Syria into Iraq. Wear the outfit deal with the consequences. Why should Cal be any different? Wear the attire of the trade (gangsta) deal with the folks (other gangstas or cops) who don't like it. Bet you Tray wishes he'd not worn a hoodie! Bet you Zimmerman wishes he'd seen beyond that hoodie. I've got uncles well into their years still dressin' down with the khakis and flannel shirts buttoned at the top over in Hollenbeck, Boyle, etc. These jerks are still wondering why the most corrupt department (second to NOPD) are always giving them the action. LAPD's gang unit knows where to go, after all they know what the Badguys look like. Why draw the action, why make your attire put you at risk? While I'm at it, go back to school, learn that there's more beyond your post. Second to folks taking what you wear they reinforce their impression with how you communicate. Unfortunately, that is the way of the country. Peace!

Wow, James I want to beat you just from reading that post and I dont even like cops.

James from California, stop trying to be something that you are not. you are sounding like Mitt Romney when he was down south.

I Will give you a little hint, the people that talk like that do not write like that because in the south they use the same alphabet as any other part of the US.

True dat!!!

Thats right, we're the police and we're here to protect you, now hit the friggen ground and put your hands behind your head scumbag. Thump, smack, smack, taze, now what seems to be your problem a$$hole. But I called you I was robbed. Oh ya well prove that in court your under arrest you friggen scumbag.

Cappy, love that booking-photo!! Hope you don't get sued for infringement! Down here along the Arizona/Mexighanistan border we've got our share of cops more crooked than a dozen bolts of lightning. We've got the Neo-Nasty Pinal Sheriff's office headed by a nut-case outed as a gay by his long-term illegal husband. This is the same department which has members staffing rip-crews operating against the Narconistas working up into Tucson and Phoenix. We've also got Cochise and Santa Cruz Sheriff's offices that have spoiled produce among them. In So-Cal the cops have their hands full with Hood Gangstas. Down here it's the Narconistas/Illegistas. Tons of Mexicans cross to do their shopping and go back. The last thing they want to do is live here. It's cheaper to live in Mexico. When Americans have long run out of dough, these Mexicans pool their resources and hit Jim Click Ford, Sam's, Target, Cosco, Khols, Penney's, Macy's, etc. in Tucson or better in Phoenix. These businesses know it and cater to it by staffing only the best who can speak Espanol. After they're done shopping they return to Mexico. These legally-crossing Mexicans deal only in cash. They also drive up in beaters, abandon it in a parking lot, buy a new club wagon,, buy a week's worth of insurance, fill it with merchandise and return to Mexighanistan. They don't mind declaring large amounts of cash, paying sales taxes because they all know too well that a clean dollar is worth a thosand dirty dollars. They don't mind staying in a hotel until they clear their spending dough through customs. Some will wait for weeks to a month to process. They've got the time and dough. America wants their cash. Cash for everything! Buyers for the Narcos, who knows? They don't believe in checks, plastic or bank accounts. Cash or nothing! Problem is on their way up they're "profiled" (large passenger van, few women with huge shopping lists and lots of cash among them) , pulled over and are taxed by corrupt members of Law Enforcement repping the Terrible Three counties. Take money going North or take that 60-inch Bravia going South. Anyhow, a Citizen Reservist's family comes up from Agua Prieta, Sonora to welcome him home from A-stan, they get 'profiled' and taxed by a Pinal Deputy just north of Marana. They tell their story to their Army dude son. He tells his civilian buddies, they know this Deputy since first-grade. The Army dude's crew bust into Deputy Duncefield's home, take back what was not his, trash the rest. It gets better. They find him in a bar not far from the ANG base, populated by Base folk and rat out Deputy Duncefield. He gets Gregory Hines'd to within a breath of permanent retirement with a beat-down worthy of a death sentence. All in the presence of Pinal's finest who do nothing. Were they the good Deputys? Now they are. Out here folks have no problem rounding up a crew to go against the crooked members of the Terrible Three Cops. The only cops to be trusted are the Highway Patrol, Pima County Sheriff's office and the Tucson Police Department as these three show no mercy to dirty badges, none. They'll give their own a near death-sentence for the slightest suspicion of an unpolished badge.

Panhead, you forgot the part of the officers scream "STOP RESISTING!! STOP RESISTING!!" while your on the ground.

My neighbor in January was getting arrested for driving on a suspended license. The cop pulled him over in front of his house. 2 more cops cars came for back up because he has a past. They all surrounded him threw him to the ground and started hitting and punching him. The cops were all yelling "STOP RESISTING!" He wasnt resisting at all, one cop was trying to cuff the other cop and they both were whopping on my neighbor who was begging them to stop....

Every time you get tasered or hit in the balls you are suppose to hold still and not let your muscle react to pain.

Allow me to make a suggestion. Go to "youtube" and type "the largest/biggest street gang in america". Coming from a family with a long history of law enforcement, I'm well aware of what a rogue cop is capable of. It's really changed my perception of cops vs. what I was raised to believe. Sounds like being a "badass" is an important thing to you. I don't know how being a "badass" is benificial, but hey, one mans garbage is another mans gold. Peace.

I am also well aware of what rogue cops can do as well. Apparently being a bad ass means you don't have to rely on someone else to protect you. Sounds like we have a lot of that going on nowadays so yeah, it's important. Maybe not in your peaceful back woods...but hey, we all don't have that luxury now do we? I'm not calling these particular cops heroes, but I also understand when a mountain is being made out of a mole hill. The guy stepped forward and turned himself in. He deals with armed gangs. They're not in Mayberry dude...

@hush....."but hey, we all don't have that luxury now do we?" May I ask what keeps you from living in the country? I didn't always live there. I made the choice to get away from our declining society and I moved there. My fiance, dogs and I are very capable of taking care of ourselves and the only ones I consider badasses are the dogs.

I commend the officer for stepping forward, but cosidering the LAPD's track record, I think it's very wise to nip this thing in the bud. You are correct, it may be nothing, but all the facts are not out yet. We'll see. Peace.

My parents live out in the country. I'm tied to my locale because of other family issues and my job, and I really hate to drive. So it just doesn't work for me. Plus its very expensive. It sounds like the clique could get out of hand, and we don't have all of the facts no, but the NFL bounty club sounds much much worse than this. Now we have a full-on IA investigation. C'mon... maybe its protocol; but its getting spun way out of proportion it sounds....

hey hush..

I have no prblem with your father (as a firefighter) being a member of "the bad asses" BUT AS A FIRE FIGHTER HE WASNT ROAMING THE STREETS WITH A LOADEDGUN!!!!

"being a good guy is so exhausting Bob."

"I know, Jim, we violated 13 peoples rights today. lets go get a beer."

"I would love to Bob, but I have to beat this confession out of my suspect first."

it all starts in Sacramento...all the elected officials who are supposed to be guardians for the State of Ca. Have a criminal record far more devastating to the health and welfare of Ca. citizens than a few misguided cops. Want to clean out a rats nest start in Sacramento where the real villains of Ca. are

cant enforce the law if your actively breaking the law. not too many cops arrest themselves.

I was put in mind of "Fight Club"...

This does remind me of the movie Magnum Force. Dirty Harry got the job done working alone and unfortunately his partners usually got killed.

"Man's GOT to know his limitations."

I got news for you. Your mouthwash ain't cuttin it.