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Definitely in the underworld, or maybe dealing in drugs. In any case, he's a psycho, for sure, marrying this woman and then killing her immediately afterwards.

Lock him up and throw away the key.

Do not waste a penny of taxpayer money on a life sentence for this cold blooded psycho. Just dig a hole in the ground and put him in it!

Very tragic... I guess in this case one could say it happened sooner than later.

Throwing Stones: agreed. I think the hole should also be filled with cement- just to make certain he doesn't climb back out.

people, why is everyone calling her out for this, how about why are guys killing their wives, girlfriends etc... it happens all the time. What's wrong with these men, he was the bad one here. How many times don't women try and leave their abuser and they get killed.

More from that colorful south-of-the-border culture.

Ladies, DO NOT STAY WITH A MAN WHO HITS YOU. If a man hits you LEAVE HIM. Of course, the same goes for men. DO NOT STAY WITH A WOMEN WHO HITS YOU.

I tell my sons this all the time. If you're with a women who hits and slaps you, one day, you'll lose it and hit her back... and then guess who goes to jail? Never live with a drunk or a violent partner.

Yea, pugface, because we all know that men north of the border NEVER engage in violence.

Bigots - not the brightest people on earth.

"a bad fight?"......
In my book, a bad fight might mean a broken dish or lamp. Not a young bride bleeding to death in the tub.
Sounds like this macho POS is a coward at heart, trying to play down what he did.

Low self esteem. They believe they don't deserve better and any attention is better than no attention. Really sad.

There's probably a lot of reasons why women might get involved or stay involved with abusive men - self-esteem/worth issues, fear of being alone, financial issues, maybe even fear of leaving (being threatened)...

But yeah. I just wish girls would stay away/get away from these jerks. No one deserves that kind of treatment, and just maybe these guys would realize they need to change their behavior if no woman would go near them.

My guess is, women don't like boring. But in this case, seems she's made a few bad decisions already.

Not to say this is the reason, but a possible one. He drives a Maserati, he may possibly have money, so maybe financial security. I've known many woman who stick around with a guy because they like to feel taken care of despite him being abusive.

Some women are like leaches, they latch onto someone for drugs or money or an easy lifestyle they think. Then the nasty side comes out and they can't get away.

Women are attracted to "bad boys" because they are exciting. It's science!

Sometimes the women mistakenly beleaves she can change the man if; she loves him enough, has a baby, gets married to him. Most of the time the women are wrong, and sometimes you get a sad outcome like this story has.

I have a sister-in-law like this. She is pretty smart and attractive, but continually dates the biggest tools in the sand box. Repeatedly, we have tried to set her up with good, honest, successful friends, but repeatedly, she ends up loosing interest after a short period of time only to go right back to one of these types.

I just don't get it. For a short period in my life, after being brutally hurt by a woman (ah college love), I vowed to treat every girl like the filthy wh*res they are. I'd never gotten so much tail. Fortunately, I met another girl who helped me past all that before eventually meeting my wife. It just doesn't make any sense. My younger brother, nicest guy in the world with a good career, can't meet girls to save his life. But when he is out with he gets to witness his idiot friends score like Lebron for being d-bags. What's more amazing is how duds who don't take care of their illegitimate children are the kings of getting laid?!

So, to all the young bucks out there trying to drop some panties at the bar. Remember, they really do like it when you tell them to buy you a drink first. No questions asked.

Haters gonna hate.

She thought she could "change him". She took a stab at it, and you know the rest.

Unfortunately women seldom go for those quiet types in the back (the good ones-like the one mom married and they have issues with) they like the loud ones at the bar. The ones we read about in the newspaper (or here). Just an observation.

My wish for him is to feel so remorseful that he drives somewhere quiet and remote and OFFS himself!......I don't want to pay for his trial or feed him while he spends life in prison.

Sad, but all too true.

I vowed to treat every girl like the filthy wh*res they are.

J-DOGGIN - that must make your wife feel just great knowing that you consider her a "filthy wh*re". Based on your comments, it doesn't take a genius to understand why you college girlfriend left you.

But women are the most deceiving creatures.

Mister Whoops - women are only reacting to pathetic misogynist like you and J-DOGGIN.

J-DOGGIN..The funny thing is you men think we are stupid to the game...We are just out there playing you just the same. YEAH.. we might buy the drinks, or even ACT like we are into you, but we all want the same thing at the end of the night!!! Dont be fooled. Your not all that. We just want a piece too.. And could careless if we see you again. lol.. MEN !! you think you know, but you have no clue !!

I'd say her karma came home pretty fast. Oops. Any woman that marries a man that has already beaten her is just too stupid to hang out with the living, as we see. He should be put wayaway for the rest o' his pitiful life.

She might have had issues with her father, and maybe saw this treatment towards women in her own house. She might have had low self-esteem, or maybe she thought if he was abusive once, it was due to alcohol and when he said he was sorry, he meant it and if he was sober, it would never happen again.

In any case, it's sad, and I don't care what she said to him, she did not deserve to be killed. If he was sick of her, all he had to do was leave, get a divorce, or whatever. Let's not blame the victim or justify his crime.

"Bad boys" suggests high genetic quality. In general females seek them for short-term mates just to get their genes. A male that engages in high risk behavior and is ok suggests that he would make a good biological father for strong offspring.

"Good guys" on the other hand do not suggest the same in terms of genetic quality but are sought as long-term mating partners because they are better for helping raise children.

Of course this isn't true for everyone, but from a purely instinct level this does influence how (most) females would think about mating partners (even if we don't realize it lol).

I'm an anthropology nerd...

Some of you amaze me. We have no details on why she stayed with him, yet some of you call her names and seem to know her entire life history, her motives for being with him, and what kind of person she was. She was killed...a young mother was brutally killed! She didn't ask to be killed, and it's just nice to know how many brilliant and perfect people we have on here who know all that with few facts. Why are you judging her? Did she kill someone? Wow.

women get involved with these types of guys for all of the above, I think everyone has covered it, but the under lying reasons are much more complex. What they saw in the home they grew up in, maybe daddy abused mommy (in these cases women will draw to them a man just like daddy) Its a vicious cycle. Just like the guy, he grew up to be just like daddy, beat up on his wife. That's why I say to all women, be responsible who you have babies with and leave a man who abuses you or your children, if not for your sake, for your children sake cause they will grow up and start the cycle all over again. It all begins in the home, when children grow up in a functional home they grow up to be good adults.

No, no one has covered it. These types of men lay it on extremely thick, showering you with attention, dates, and "love." They tell you they miss you when you aren't around, want to see you every day, and call and check up on you all the time...see where I'm going with this? Slowly but surely they turn you into their controlled little puppy, wanting to know where you've been, if you loved them you wouldn't neglect them and hang out with your friends etc. As the woman tries to show the guy that she is loyal and true, the reality is she is becoming his property. Eventually he has full control and the mental abuse becomes physical. THIS is why women stay with men like this, they are brain washed over time, groomed to become a victim of abuse. Every time they get mad or hit you, they crawl back begging for forgiveness and ask you to please help them be a better person. Eventually that turns into "no one else will have you, I'm the only one who cares about you, you are worthless without me." Eventually that becomes "leave me and I will kill you and your entire family."

Why do these women get involved with these type of guys?

Because, unfortunately, there are SO MANY of "these types of guys!" And "these types of guys" do not show their true colors until after women fall in love with them--and behind closed doors. Sad but true. You'd be amazed how many apparent "pillars of society, upstanding" men are, in fact, "these types of guys."

Amazed!

ABCzyx - finish that quoted statement. We can all change. And yes, my wife and I have talked about our past. For better or worse we have accepted one another. Besides, it's not like I was planting a flag on the moon when we met.

miami-3159432 - God love the girls that have that twinkle in their eye. Game on!

He had already beaten her! Then, she married him! No, sorry, she walked right into it, eyes wide open.

" I never could understand why men (some women also) have to beat on each other"

You mean most women? Just cause some men do it, don't generalize us all. By the way women smack their man around way more, but men just don't report it.

thepunisher- I agree with you. There's a-lot of women who abuse their husbands, it just isn't reported as often. My brother-in-law's wife is an aggressive woman and has been verbally and physically abusive to my brother-in-law for going on 15 years now. He never abused her. One day he told her that he was going fishing with his brother (my husband) and she said "like hell you are" when he continued walking out the door she literally threw a glass at him and it cut him pretty badly. I guess this was finally the last straw because my brother-in-law snapped and backhanded her. She called the police and said that he beat the crap out of her. He took the fall for the whole thing because he didn't want both of them to go to jail, he even bandaged his arm so that the police wouldn't know she cut him. Our state has very strict domestic abuse laws he was issued a $1,500 fine, a 120 day restraining order (he had to move out of the home for 120 days that he was paying for!) and 90 days of anger management courses! For a fight he didn't start! We've told him numerous times he needs to divorce her. He always says the same thing "well that's my wife and I love her why would I want to start over at my age (40)". The whole situation is very sad. The situation in this article is probbaly very similar except the gender roles are reversed.

Some men on this vine having to be kidding me. Men have treated women like crap for centuries and everything in the world is like, what goes around comes around. Now women are finally giving to men what they have been receiving from them. Just to mention one is, the name "whore", if a woman were to have an affair, she's a whore, if a man has an affair, well that's ok, (no dirty name for him). This was just man's way of controling women.

Excuse me for forgetting the word "some" men. I didn't mean to classify all in the same catagory. I know there are men out there that do not abuse women. My husband doesn't abuse me. It's a 50-50 deal here. They are good at doing it to each other........... geez................

Purely speculation on your part, unless you knew this man....?

Yes, you are right --I agree. We might be rushing to judgement --since we don't know all the facts yet -- Based on past stories of this type, we are assuming the worst here-- while we might be wrong --Unfortunately-- it is more likely than not to be the case in the end.

Some of you here are asking "why would she be with him?" He drives a Maserati...anymore questions?

Welfare checks?

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Obama credit card!

Maybe it is NOT drug money -- Maybe he has a great job -- but I kinda doubt it!

He must be part of the 1% -- and did not want to share.

Cash for Clunkers?

life insurance salesman...a stupid life insurance salesman...

Alone ha? It's not that bad.

I feel ya friend, I am the same guy.

What's the saying, nice guys finish last. Women don't like boring.

A middle aged nice guy is all most middle aged women want. Boring becomes comfortable after awhile.

I'll take boring over abuse anyday. My ex was abusive...there are things FAR WORSE than being alone.

Sometime when women come from homes where abuse is common, they gravitate toward the same thing as adults. It's not just physical, it turns into a mental problem as well. It's a vicious cycle - they're convinced that this person cares about them, and they don't mean to hurt them. It's much more complex than just "liking the bad boys"... it's a life-long pattern in many instances.

That might be quite true. But by the same token, if you were raised in an abusive situation --wouldn't you make a point to get away from it and make sure to seek out and find a situation totally unlike the abusive one? Sounds more like a excuse, than an true explaination, to justifiy dumb behavior.

Sheila-846240

A middle aged nice guy is all most middle aged women want. Boring becomes comfortable after awhile.

Yeah, the problem with that is that the middle aged guys think they're entitled to an 18 year old, and don't even realize how ridiculous they look chasing these girls who only want their money.

kh554, it goes both ways. Some guys want a beauty queen girlfriend or a wild woman in bed, and then they get all upset when they get cheated on, even if the woman has a history of doing so. I know plenty of decent, single, middle-aged women who were dumped by their significant other over a stupid, gold-digging 18-year-old. I guess the old "we always want what we can't have" saying is true.

Some do, some don't, Painful Truth. There's a deep lack of a sense of self-worth that goes along with staying with an abuser. Deep down these girls/women are convinced that they can't do better, they're afraid to be alone, and they keep hoping things will get better. As with more psychological damage, it's a far more complex situation that "just an excuse."

As opposed to a "good fight"???

As in stating the obvious.

I read the article and didn't see any reference to alcohol. Some people are jerks regardless of their BAC...

Your 2 cents just lost its value.

No, this article didn't mention it, but the inital reports did. They had been at bars celebrating. Here's a link to one article. There are other articles too. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-woman-found-dead-in-burbank-apartment-20120514,0,2937331.story

I may be old fashioned but when your children can come to your wedding....

Alcohol is a drug.

Okay, I'll concede that there was a party bus, and they went to several bars. I still fail to see where it says that alcohol was a factor in the crime committed. I stand by my previous statement that some people are jerks regardless of their BAC.

Oh....I'm in no way condoning any part of what he did. I was just pointing out that when someone is under the influence of a substance like alcohol, they lose much of their ability to control themselves. AND if that person who was under the influence was someone who already had difficulty controlling violent tendencies without the presence of any substance, it might explain why this happened. But yes, I do agree, he appears to be a terrible person.

I'm not condoning what he did either. My point is that neither article says that alcohol was a factor in the crime. You're making an assumption based on the fact that the person was in a bar. I've been to several bars and remained the sober member of the group who watched out for others. I've also been the drunken one who doesn't remember the last bar and had to be helped to the car.

Think of every major automobile accident that happens, they deliberately state if alcohol was a factor when it makes the news. In situations like this, if there were any witness accounts that substantiated your claim of intoxication, they would most certainly be included.

Let's agree on the fact that the person who committed this crime needs to be prosecuted and leave out speculation as to why the crime was committed, or what the circumstances surrounding the crime were.

You'll never convince these type of chicks. They rather live in a movie than watch a movie.

Yep..there cry how ALL men are dogs when they get smacked around from the bad boys!

Yep..they cry how ALL men are dogs when they get smacked around from the bad boys!

remember ladies nice guys don't always finish last. You might not get to ride around in a Maserati but we'll treat you like a lady and you'll still be alive. Sad curmistances here. Some girls gotta have them a bad boy.

You can be a nice guy and not be a ***** as well.

Some of you need to learn/remember that.

Excuse me ladies -- but there is a difference between "boring" and some one being a decent, caring person. Unless some of you ladies out there find it "fun & exciring" to have drunken agruments every night, get cheated on , get beatan up, lose a few teeth, break some bones or worst --as in this case. Yeah.. she must have had a real "exciting life" --But, hey, on the bright side, she got to "party" and ride in a fancy car before she got stabbed to death!

Nice guys don't finish

they alwys give up their place in line to someone else...............

Ladies here is a hint if your "bad boy" thinks the world of himself he will likely have no room for you.

Good for you and congratulation for figuring it all out. You are right on target about loving yourself first.

But for a long term, 30+years and counting, you do love yourself but her/him MORE. That has to go both ways though. Mom (she is gone) told me when I started datting a gazillion years ago, "Love is KNOWING the other person loves you". I still believe that.

Love is one thing, respect is another. I find respect is lacking in most aspects of our interactions with others and relationships. Some partners may say "I love him/her more than myself" but that can easily be said by someone who is obsessed with their partner, not in love with them. Some people don't believe they can function outside of being in a relationship, or just plain aren't content with themselves. And boredom is a choice.....

learn to love myself FIRST

Yes, this is key. Once you learn to love yourself, you realize you deserve better and that you shouldn't put up with anyone's crap. The sea is full of fishes, so there's no need to feel like you have no choice but to stay with someone, especially if you're that person's punching bag. It's important to seek help and get to the point that you did, if you find yourself in this situation.

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Not all "bad boys" start out treating you badly. I had a two year relationship where the first 1 1/2 years were great. The "bad boy" was attractive because I felt safe and he treated me like I was the most important thing he wanted to protect. That all changed almost over night. I got out and realize now that I don't need a man to make me feel happy or safe.

What if he came from America? Are you one of those who automatically assume that anyone with a spanish name must be an illegal?

Wives...moms! You can change the next generation of boys growing up. Don't make them feel like second class citizens below women and children. Let them be strong and dependable. Let them open doors, say ma'am, stand up for you (even if you don't need them to), let them feel like they are important and worth something. A good mom can be the difference between a good man and a complete a--h---. It does go both ways.

AND lead by example. Don't expect your daughter to not marry a jerk if you were married to an abusive man (whether verbally or physically abusive) and you put up with and excused his behavior. By the same token, don't expect your son to be a good husband or father if he sees his dad beating you up all the time, cheating on you, and calling you derogatory names, because he will more than likely do the same to his wife. If you want your kids to respect themselves and others, they must learn firsthand respect from YOU!

Nope, Illinois got rid of the death penalty in 2011. He'll get 25 to life and walk out on parole after 8 to 10 years most likey.

8 - 10 years. Hope they kill him in jail.

If he's in a gang of some type on the outside, he'll just hook up with them in prison and be protected.

Where do you come up with such a hypothetical story ? From experience ? Anything could have caused this murder. Death penalty for him.

1. Date and get to know the guy, his family and friends. 2. Engagement of at least 12 months. 3. Marry, THEN get pregnant!!!

The first one and the last one are good, but the second one seems kind of arbitrary.

What does the length of the engagement have any affect on?

I once knew a attractive young lady( in her early 20's @ the time) -- who had to work two jobs and had three kids in four years with her boyfriend.(who does not chip in) When asked why she does not marry the guy ... she said, and I quote "Oh he does not have enought money for me..I want a $10,000 ring.! .. so she will live with the guy (some of the time) have his kids ...but does not want him to marry her? You explain that to me?

Al something tell me that you have been married a good while. To be able to stop and walk away takes a good deal of humility and courage. We do it now but 20 years ago-I am just glad we stuck it out.

Maybe, but does it take 20 years of being punched in the face and cursed at a few times a week to figure out you should get out of the situation?

You are so ignorant. Don't associate people from those countries with your crappy relationships or third wold thinking.

....um, yeah.....that's why so many women from these countries are looking to get a white man when they come here. These women can plainly see that they DON"T HAVE TO PUT UP WITH KNUCKLEDRAGGING in a 1st world country! it isn't the pasty white skin color they're after, it's the better treatment.... wake up and smell the REAL coffee, ignorant

I don't know, um, yeah. How do you know she's an immigrant, or do you naturally assume that just because she's Hispanic? I've known plenty of abusive white men. Abuse does not know any racial or ethnic bounds, and what about the WHITE MALE-dominated GOP, who recently voted down a civil rights bill that would've protected women from violence.