Desmond Hatchett of Knoxville, Tenn., doesn't deny fathering 30 children, by 11 mothers no less -- instead, he's pleading with the state to help him out with child support.
Hatchett, just 33, appeared in court this week to make his case, WREG-TV reported.
Holding a minimum wage job, Hatchett already gives half his pay to the children's mothers but because he has a minimum wage job some moms get just $1.49 a month in support.
The children range in age from toddlers to 14.
"I had four kids in the same year. Twice," he said in explaining how he set the paternity record for Knox County.
WREG noted that Hatchett had not broken any laws fathering so many children, and that the state had no means to require him to stop.
Melissa Gibson, an assistant supervisor with the Knox County child support clerk's office, told the Los Angeles Times that she wished something could be done.
"If there's something out there like that, I'm unaware of it," Gibson said, then added: "It definitely needs to be."
It was not clear what the next steps in Hatchett's appeal to the state would be.
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I'll give him some aid buy cutting his pecker off! Man up and get a job!
Phil, to his credit (such as it is) he DOES have a minimum wage job, but the salary does not go very far.
Apparently this strategy has worked in your case.
Sorry, I meant a 'real job". He knows if he stays with a minimum wage job the State can't go after him for too much of anything. He's just playing the system.
Yeah this case is so extreme that he almost should have to be sterilized in order to receive any assistance from the state... since he has carried on with his slutty ways to the point where it really should be a crime.
If we had just gone through a flu pandemic that killed off 75% of the people, breeding as much as this stupid guy has could perhaps be justified - but we haven't had that sort of plague. This guy's kids shouldn't be punished all their lives for having an idiot like him for a father, but at the same time the state and county should be able to deny him ANY extraordinary services until he gets the balls removed. I don't just mean a vasectomy; this guy really needs to be castrated if he wants the government to pay for the obvious outcome of his "playa" lifestyle.
You become a playa and have dozens of kids, you lose your balls. Sound fair?
Certainly the fact that I'll end up chipping in for this loser's kids is not fair to me one bit, so at least the criminal responsible for this situation should be made incapable of increasing the size of the brood (and increasing the costs) any more.
Don't give him a dime. The mothers of those kids are probably already collecting welfare and any other government assistance that they can get. Giving him money for the kids is double dipping. Besides, he is probably doing this to keep the money for himself. He needs to grow up, stop trying to set records on how many women he can get pregnant in one year, and work toward getting real employment. If the state gives him money, then it is only supporting and rewarding his irresponsible behavoir.
he needs to get as many jobs as he can-don't know about the females but hopefully they are contributing and are not depending on this jerk for support. sounds like he thought he'd get never get this far and thinks the public will help him out. NAH, not from me. I raised two kids on my own, no help from a deadbeat dad that owned his own business. Where's Lorena Bobbitt?
Now that's what I call a slut. Men: Keep your pants zipped unless and until you are ready to fully support a child.
chouse ' "Yeah this case is so extreme that he almost should have to be sterilized in order to receive any assistance from the state... "
Almost?
Yes he is at fault, however he did not make the kids on his own..... After all it takes 2..... Just goes to show you the results of a lose society..... I feel sorry for the kids but hey the 12 of them created this mess they can support it......
This person appears to be the living embodiment of William Shockley's theory of retrogressive evolution. (Those that are the least equipped to achieve and provide for their children, are the ones producing the most offspring. Several hundreds of years of this phenomenon will result in a deterioration of desirable genetic characteristics of our species in general)
This is not a problem - Welfare will take care of all of the kids until they are 18 years old.
In the meantime - he has 'bragging rights', and his friends will smile and say 'You the man'.
Yes, I'm being facetious, but why should he care - someone else will take care of his responsibilities - that's the way the 'system' works these days. 'Personal Responsibility' is for those sucker 'conservatives'.
I work for a child support agency. He's not alone out there. He has many peers who do the exact same thing. Dozens of kids, minimum wage job (or in jail), and then bewail their circumstances of not being able to have any luxuries. Well, too bad, so sad. No excuse. We all know where babies come from. No excuses.
On the other hand, some moms and dads, who are in the child support system, bust their behinds to make sure that their kids get/have all they can, and then some. I've seen where some parents take the extra job(s) to make their support requirements, and then even pay a little more, just in case. Many have been extremely generous. These parents take the making and caring for children very seriously. It's not a flash in the pan experience for them.
Of course, you get the good with the bad. It's losers like this this guy, Hatchett, who give the good parents a bad name. Believe me, many, many good men and women pay their child support fully and on time.
Just a side note: Some of our legislators are trying to get bills passed that will help support guys like Hatchett, because they feel sorry for him (or whatever.) If you ever see that happening in your state's legislature, please call them up and tell them they are stupid, and you don't want your tax dollars paying for this gigolo. I hope Hatchett is made to pay every single dime he owes, if it takes the rest of his life. He brought this on himself, and he should pay.
Tina McManus Frei
That is such an ignorant comment that it pretty much explains why you are struggling. Aside from all the obvious reasons that statement is wrong, over 50% of welfare recipients are white.
Crying about having too many babies is a cry for mandatory vasectomy.
"chouse ' "Yeah this case is so extreme that he almost should have to be sterilized in order to receive any assistance from the state... "
Almost?"
Well I say almost since the last nation that regularly took that sort of action was Nazi Germany. They sterilized many people they felt were undesirable, and then a few years later ended up murdering them.
Obviously we don't want to live in Nazi Germany, and once you open up Pandora's Box it can be hard to make sure that it doesn't get out of hand.
I definitely don't want to live in a world where people are sterilized as a punishment for a minor crime, but considering that centuries ago this man definitely would have been executed (if not murdered by a mob) for spawning this many bastard children at least in his case taking his balls may be appropriate.
If you stole as much money as it will take to raise the kids from a private party, it would clearly be in the felony range - so why is it not a felony crime when he performs that theft against ALL of society?
It's not like he's going to suddenly become a millionaire and support his gigantic brood - so stopping him from increasing the size of it at least stops him from making the situation even worse.
It would be cruel and unusual to take the balls of somebody who didn't do anything major, but this guy is using these balls as a form of financial terrorism against the rest of us, so taking away his weapon of choice doesn't seem cruel or unusual to me. They key of course would be to make sure that they don't start chopping the balls off of people for speeding tickets or being caught with a joint.
Don't hate th' player, hate the freaking nitwit that doesn't know what a condom is and ain't man enough to support himself or all the damn kids he helped bring into this world, who i doubt will have any respect for him. As for the mothers, i partly feel sorry for them and the burden of taking care of the kids with little relief, WIC, food stamps and welfare doesn't remotely pay the bills...BUT they should have kept their legs shut, used a condom, birth control, something. After my second child was born i had a visectomy as a was mature enough to understand my limits. This guy needs to find a second job and keep it in his pants, no telling how many STDs he has been spreading.
I do not support comments regarding race attached to this article. It's not the man's race... It's his intellect! We have fostered a society of "I DESERVE ALL" thinkers, who feel that what feels good must be right. I will pray for his children, my goodness, they haven't got much of a chance with both parents being as uncaring as they obviously are. Since this idiot has defrauded the government's taxpayers by producing and not being responsible for them... how about he goes to jail, put him on a prison job and send his earnings to the mothers of these children... say.... until the baby turns 18...
Planned Parenthood should have FREE STERILIZATION, and should be encouraged for those who have multiple children, and no real way to support them. In fact, I would have had no issue paying this guy $5000 to have a vasectomy, 15 or more, kids ago.
This irresponsible bastard should have been neutered after his 3 kid was born. Minimum wage job and keep on procreating, I bet you most the 11 baby mammas are on welfare too.
A person of any intelligence at all would not bring more children into the world than they can support. When any child is born at public expense, the paternity should be verified by mandatory testing of the named individual(s) and a warning that the next time the same man and/or woman produces a child the taxpayers have to support, they will be sterilized by tying their respective tubes. If the woman refuses or cannot identify the genetic father of the first child born into welfare, her tubes should be tied right away (excepting rape of course). The public has a right to limit their cost from the actions of irresponsible people and the world is overflowing already. This is not a violation of the mother's or father's rights, it is where their rights end and those of the society begin. Limiting the number of children born into abject poverty will help eliminate it. This isn't eugenics, it is common sense.
Time for America to install a ONE only child policy like in China, oh wait, that doesn't work..
@ Carol, him being in jail will only make the problem worse.. He wont' have ANY income, inmates make pennies a day.. We need a society where people are given opportunities to succeed in life and not be stuck in dead end jobs with no hope.
Sad when you have people ALL over America doing this.. In Colorado City, Arizona, a 100% Mormon town, most of which is on the take for state and federal aid while raking in millions of dollars for not doing anything. Millions of Americans pop babies out like Pez dispensers because they know it pays to be a mother, and the states will give you thousands in aid and you don't have to work..
America is broken. We have Americans going overseas to adopt Chinese, Malawian, Haitian, etc babies, and pissing on your own American babies in foster care, because we all know, an American kid isn't hip enough eh? Branjalina have shown us all that.. I say stop ALL foreign adoptions until ALL Americans kids are taken care of first.. Or do we not care about America and her people anymore? We have American religious groups who would rather take care of foreigners who are starving in far away places, rather than those starving in America. We have an entire group of political people who would rather conquer the world than take care of America. Here's looking right at you GOP!
More republican crap.
Day 1 - hate on the gays for not forming a couple that can procreate, and then, block every attempt that couple makes to adopt, because selfish religious people certainly aren't out adopting the tens of thousands of kids in the US who are living on the streets, in orphanages, halfway houses and in temporary foster homes.
Day 2 -- after trying to ban abortion everywhere, and banning birth control programs & planned parenthood, and banning sex education in schools so all you're left with is total ignorance -- sit around and whine about how situations( like this one) are the fault of Liberals.
Priceless.
And not one comment about the responsibility of any of the women.
Stupid, stupid women. Poor kids. What chance do they have when they are being raised by such idiots?
ACEPERO:
I am in the low income housing area's all the time.
The woman maybe white BUT MOST OF THE FATHERS ARE BLACK!!!!
Blacks are 12% of the population and over 40% of those on welfare.
Whites are 83% of the population and 48% of those on welfare.
Clearly (again) there is something wrong with most blacks and their behavior.
Welfair was a noble idea but it needs to END!
Apparently this guy didn't have a problem finding 11 stupid women. Must have been a shortage of sperm donors in his neighborhood. He obviously didn't care about any consequences nor did the women, they should all suffer the consequences. The children should grow up knowing who put them in these impoverished circumstances.
Well here's an idea. Instead of wasting time sleeping around with more women, how about the schmuck get a second job to support those kids? Absolutely insane that he wants the government to bail him out for his own actions. Man up, work your butt off and learn to keep your pants up.
Fix him. Give vouchers to the mothers to take care of their children. Don't give him a penny, but do take some $$ from his low-paying job. Require the mothers to take courses on childcare, and seek emotional and spiritual support. Give them free birth control. Don't forget to fix him. No more babies.
The Children WILL suffer for this worms lack of self discipline. His lack of responsibilities. His addiction..!! Now all involved want government assistance.!!
Should he and she's be used as examples and be required to all have surgeries to insure that they will not be able to create more tax burdens before any assistance is given.??
We need an anti-sperm donor law. Maybe that law should require neutering after bringing two or more babies into the world with no visible means of supporting them. If eleven of those women weren't aware of this guy acting only as a sperm donor, not a father, then they should be neutered also.
It doesn't??? A few facts:
What doesn't work about it?
Serial copulator.
I'd say that the women are as much at fault in this as the man. If your man doesn't have a condom, you get one. Is a buck's worth of birth control more expensive than raising a child? I don't think so.
While I definately do not condone this man's life-style, or that of his "lady" friends, breeding large numbers of children is not unique to being a playa. Actually, I have known families in Iowa almost as large. Good Catholic families with 10, 12 15 or more kids. One school bus driver in the NE part of the state had an extremely short route, three families in succession on one road could actually fill a full-sized school bus. What about the Mormon families, with a half dozen dads and over 100 children? Or the reality program familes of 8 or 9 or 19 kids?
And yes, in virtually every case, all those kids from one place, place a strain on their parents, on the schools and on the state. Ironically, birth rates per parent generally go down as wealth and education increase. This is a societal norm, exceptions like the Kennedy family will exist. But if you look at birth rates in the US, in Europe, and in Japan, they have steadily declined, by choice, over the past 150 years. Parents invest more time, education and wealth in fewer children and expect better results in their children's lives. When I was young a large family hand 10-12 kids or more. Today we think anyone with more than four is unusual.
Yet, fundamentalists and the Catholic church argue we should continue to let "nature" take its course by discouraging or banning contra-ception or any form of abortion. And they pass this teaching on to areas like Africa or Haiti, to peoples who cannot feed themselves, let alone a ballooning population. And still every church and many governments contribute to feeding, clothing and housing those children. But not improving the lot of their parents, provide safety and skills for those children as they grow into adults, or do anything to stem the tide of an ever increasing population.
Let this guy continue to support his children as best he is able, but make sure he has a second, or third job, to occupy his time rather than creating more children.
as a note women can get birth conttrole for free. so both are to blame. if this was a drunk driving case. and some woman crashed in to you killing your kids. and she was drunk. you would want her held respocable for her actions. same thing here the women here are just as falt as he is. ano one who say anything diffrent dont know there ass form the ground
bill your talking about a people who want that many children and are workign there asses off on there family farms to do it. this is just a guy who had no other intechen then just getting lade.
How ironic, this happens in a state that champions Creationism over science in public schools.......
To those that oppose state aid for situations like this: the question is not whether or not the father deserves aid (he doesn't). The issue is whether 30 children should grow up without things they need. Don't punish the children for what the father did.
It's a well established fact that children that grow up in financially disadvantaged homes are more likely to engage in irresponsible behavior later on.
Time for a "Castration Law" and this guy should be on the top of the list for this medical procedure.
Too bad, so sad, must suck to be him, his g/f's, or one of his children! I just love it when members of the conservative clown posse's first statement is "get a job." Of course he's no different than those on Wall Street or in corporate board rooms wanting a subsidy, tax break, or socialized bailout after screwing too many people. Yep, in America everyone thinks they are entitled to ride for free while someone else picks up the tab for bad behavior and a willingness not to accept accountability for their own actions. Like the corporate and financial leaders I'm sure he feels he deserves a "performance" bonus to boot! Mr. Hatchett, you made the choice to act irresponsible now you can support/fund/finance your actions on your own. The state should double his child support payments so they get at least $2.98
One word. CASTRATION!
If you think child support is bad now, wait until these kids grow up and become terrible citizens and burdens on society. Once they realize that this despicable individual fathered 30 children by 11 women and didn't give a damn about the kids and the mothers were too damn stupid to use birth control, they are going to be an army against society. Prisons, social welfare, education and wholesale violence they are going to take out against society is going to make child support look like peanuts!
"The children range in age from toddlers to 14."
Sounds like Mr. Hatchett has had a "hitch in his get-along" for the past year or so.
Oh yes, I have a solution for a whole section of the population committing this nonsense for the tax payers but, I can't write this down here, you know. It is OK to father children and run but you can not speak the truth in public.
There are some desparate women out there hooking up with this dude who definitely does not look like a stud muffin.
Shame that is.
Actually, above all else, the protection of the children, including stopping the births of so many into poverty, after the first one or two, is a major responsibility of society. Huge human litters are worse than abortion in the harm they do. We need to get past the holier than thou minority and start doing what we really should.
I thought it was a story about a mormon harem
Canary...
Can't you read or is comprehension beyond your ability?
If you can't feed'em, Don't breed'em. I know there is a point during the conception process that you feel you can feed the entire world BUT 30? Damn, He could get a job with Viagra making commercials. I can see it now "When it last for more than four hours; use it, don't loose it, let the state carry the weight, you just unleash the load."
If the "nanny state" was taking care of this cretin's tribe - I don't think he would be in court asking for help. So stop riding that old horse.
Several good options
a) Deport him to China
b) Vasectomy - quick / cheap
c) Convert to Mormon and let the church assist the children
There are many others but ......
Interesting how many people on this forum seem to have forgotten American history and how we arrived at the current situation of "black people on welfare". This phenomena of poverty, welfare and increased birthrates among blacks did not happen overnight and surely was not the result of laziness or low IQ levels. There is a serious racial divide in this country that has its roots in how American was born (e.g. slavery, segregation). Let us also not forget Tuskegee syphilis experiments and the N. Carolina sterilization programs that affected many blacks and subsequently made them distrustful of doctors/white people/governments.
It is not a matter of offering free abortions, free birth control, free castrations/sterilizations and so on. It is a matter of elevating the dignity and regaining the trust of a group of people that have been mistreated for generations.
For those using the word "ghetto" you have no understanding of what that word means or where it comes from. Also, when making the statement "I knew it was a black person even before I read the article" you should reflect on why that is the case both from a societal perspective and from a personal one.
Porter,
Although I see what you're getting at, the problem is that the male gender is more valued over the female. Now there is an over population of men over women in China. Not very good for the guys and equally so for the girls. Abortion will take place even up to the last month of pregnancy if mom is found out to be pregnant with baby #2, planned or not. So although your (and China's) solution seem like it would work, it may in the beginning, but not over time.
Instead, we SHOULD look into having a data base for fathers AND mothers who don't pay child support and who continue to get pregnant. After a certain number of children, funding/help gets cut off.
Its just awful that there are children involved with this. I could care less about the dumb adults. Its those poor kids who haven't got a chance. Rather, just getting primed to repeat the cycle, I'm afraid.
I notice that some of you said that the women were equally to blame. It's good to see that there are a few posters with brains
Then one poster said that welfare was a noble idea, past it's time. Wrong, it was a bad idea from the start. Welfare is the chief cause of the percentage of poverty being what it is. Socialism only works for as long as you have slave labor camps.
I am so sick of the bleeding heart's, "but it's not the children's fault." Hey, listen up, it's not my fault either!
Here's the facts, He''ll never be a FATHER to ANY of these kids, a donor yes, a loving, caring father, notta. Just another low life hoping that one of his children will somehow strike it rich and remember dear ole Dad. So sorry of an excuse for a Dad, to expect others to pay for his children.
The funniest part about this is, biologically speaking, he is more successful than any of us. His genetic material has been and will be passed on more than 99% of the populations, including "responsible people" with "Good Jobs." He wins, you lose. Hooray Theory of Evolution!
This person and his 11 "ho's" are the primary reason that welfare for the poor should be ended. If he (or the women that he breeds with) cannot support their children - they should be allowed to starve. It should not be my responsibility to fund the bad behavior of these people. And my tax money is going to support (and encourage) their irresponsible behavior.
The only way to end the behavior is to make it painful to behave this way. If they want government help - they should be required to accept permanent sterilization. I guess that there really is a line that differentiates humans from animals - and it ties to self control and taking full responsibility for one's actions (instead of wanting the government to take responsiblity for one's actions).
softdude....."Actually, above all else, the protection of the children, including stopping the births of so many into poverty, after the first one or two, is a major responsibility of society. Huge human litters are worse than abortion in the harm they do. We need to get past the holier than thou minority and start doing what we really should."
Duuuuuh, I am not responsible for SOME ONE ELSE'S children.
If you are sincere about your comments above, then break out your check book and send a VERY LARGE check to this guy so he can take care of his illegitimate children (I am so sure he will use your money to support HIS kids). Then you will be doing what you really should be doing and not just preaching "holier than thou" to the posters.
I'm sure many will not like this:
But it's reasons like this why minority births are higher than non minority births now. Does anyone actually think this is a good thing?
This is what happens when you are the only uncut man in town and hung like a horse to boot, stop blaming the player those women knew they were screwing a loser unprotected they must deal with the consequences as it has been for time immorial
michael~ Just like that 'player' who is 'hung like a horse' must deal with the consequences of his OWN actions. The government isn't there to get him out of the mess both he and those women got themselves into.
Jeez!... This guy is responsible for more homeless black children than hurricane Katrina.
Phillip: Your comment at #1 -- obviously neither you nor the 108 people who support you position as of this hour, bothered to read the Article which is very clear that the man has a job. You and the other 108 should read before you speak. As to castration, go for it.
The recent article on non-white births exceeding that of whites... here ya go! I'm sure the state will end up giving assistance to him, forcing the taxpayers to pay for his irresponsibility. Not to mention the irresponsibility of the 11 or so women he sired 30 kids with! What is this guy some total stud to them! Freaking stupid!
Sounds to me like 2 things need to happen here...
1) The stupid MF'er needs to get a second, and maybe even a third, job. I know it can be done; I paid my way through college working 2, and sometimes 3, jobs! That way he can provide even more money for child support and he won't have time and/or will be too tired to keep being a "player".
2) Since this stupid MF'er won't keep it in his pants, or at least wrap it up, some good samaritan in Tennessee needs to force an application of pruning shears to his punkhood. While the samaritan is at it, he should also apply a branding iron to the punk's forehead, that reads DEADBEAT DAD!
What a f*cking embarrassment to mankind! And that's not even taking into consideration the stupid whores that let him knock them up, some of them multiple times apparently...
What a bunch of haters. By the way, our Constitution begins, "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
So quit the war on the poor. We need to take care of the Nation. That said, it is really unconscionable that this man was not given the options of demonstrated birth control use, ie, no more babies born out of wedlock, or vasectomy long ago. The state should have that right in the case of men having children out of wedlock who then become petitioners for state assistance.
Who gets to claim the Federal Child credit he or the women? I know whos paying for it we are , but is he getting it?
People like this have no concept of moral responsibility. He is thinking with his small head not the one on his shoulders. This person SHOULD be neutered just like any barnyard animal. Snap an o-ring around those jewels and wait for them to fall off. This is the only real justice for this crime. The real crime here is that there is no law to punish these people for breeding like animals. The victims here are the children and we tax payers. After the castration give him a full time job working for us. If we are going to support him and is brood put him to work at hard labor for the state. At least that way we would get something out of it.
I met a man from Mexico who had brought over a dozen women here from Mexico and impregnated them all so they could collect benefits and have an "anchor",in return for kickbacks from their welfare checks,that was over five years ago and the last time I saw him he was going back to bring in another girl, no telling how many he has "fathered" by now. The system is way past broken ,it is a scam.
I was thinking that myself. The only thing he deserves is a little state funded snip-snip.
I would be happy if the welfare system would just add (and enforce) one regulation: We will support ONE illegitimate kid. #2 and you are on your own; NO additional benefits after #1 (have to exempt twins, I guess).
And they will blame Mommy, Daddy, and the system for every stupid decision they make and every crime they commit.
You're right. I am in no way excusing this 'man', because he should have been fixed long ago, but women have access to free birth control, too. And it is always possible for a woman to claim to be on birth control when she is not... but if a man buys that he's an idiot too.
That line of thought is a big part of the problem. These people think society will support their kids so they have no reason to stop having them. There are lots of hardworking people struggling to support their own families by actually working, in many cases with more than one job, yet their tax money supports people living off the system.
NO. We need to take care of our own families, not someone else's. Open up that checkbook and take care of them yourself, but the rest of us shouldn't be forced to do it.
@NC open heart-
Get real- the guy's over 30 and if he never learned from the error of his ways after the first 3-5 kids he helped bring in the world then no amount of sex ed is going to resolve his problem. Also, while you remind us of our liberties you then go on to suggest that men should be forced by their respective state to have a vasectomy for asking for assistance. His case is extreme, yes, but a lot of people ask for assistance due to extraneous factors and don't deserve to be emasculated for it.
Once again, I find myself in unwilling and surprise agreement with Roy Wilson. This man deserves nothing from the state. The mothers, who collectively cannot be amongst the brightest of God's creatures, will have to fend for themselves. They've chosen to have children with a man incapable of supporting them.
Hell, Bill Gates might shrink at the thought of supporting so many offspring.
The women and their children will have to fend as best they can in the state's welfare system, and maybe, just maybe, it is time for our record-setting father to get a vasectomy, or a brain scan.
No, the state should never have such a right.
Philip
Any clown that fathers 30 children with 11 women isn't smart enough to do anything other than a minimum wage job.
On another note, the genetic pool in Knox County has taken a huge hit.
Those of you calling for forced vasectomy are crazy. You are really going to give OUR government this kind of power. That is what I call opening the flood gates.
These idiotic ladies and a dumbass man have made too many babies. Don't give them assistance for their own willingness to continue this retarded behavior
2014MD Interesting how many people on this forum seem to have forgotten American history and how we arrived at the current situation of "black people on welfare". This phenomena of poverty, welfare and increased birthrates among blacks did not happen overnight and surely was not the result of laziness or low IQ levels. There is a serious racial divide in this country that has its roots in how American was born (e.g. slavery, segregation). Let us also not forget Tuskegee syphilis experiments and the N. Carolina sterilization programs that affected many blacks and subsequently made them distrustful of doctors/white people/governments.
Oh please. I'm so sick of hearing this same ole song and dance.
Get over it and let them take responsibility for their own actions!!! Enough with the whining on things that happened 100 years ago. I truely don't see a fear of doctors in the black community on Medicaide...
There were a lot of "white" people in poverty over the last 100 years and still are. People need to stop popping out kids just so they can get the welfare check, food stamps and housing assistance. There IS NO excuse!!!
Lots of extrapolation racism on this one.
appletoad, you're suspended for a week for violating #5 of the Code of Honor. Continuing a rough history.
3 deleted, Up Uranus sharing a tale of race-betting that Hatchett was black based on the headline. Tina McManus Frei followed that up with:
Keep the racism to yourself, folks. You're suspended for a day for violating #5 of the Code of Honor.
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76 deleted, AliceBakerin beginning with 'What do you expect? He's BLACK!' and calling someone - non-Filipinos? - 'you weaklings'. You're suspended for a week for violating #1 and #5 of the Code of Honor.
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I sincerely hope the records are only kept by county rather than it being the county record and not the state record. 30 is way too many, whether you've got the child support dough or not.
Congress Reform, some of the things that I mentioned did not happen over a 100 years ago (e.g. N.C. sterilization program). I am also in the healthcare field and I do have experience providing care to the poor (who also happen to be mostly black in my community).
It is difficult to communicate with people who have little knowledge about social/economic/cultural issues affecting certain groups of our population. You reaction to my comment makes you appear uniformed and emotional. The issues surrounding race in this country are deeper than just "Get over it and let them take responsibility for their own actions".
Your statement of "get over it" implies that you deny that there could be a possibility for lasting consequences for future generations, a self-perpetuating cycle that is difficult to break. And your remark of "let them take responsibility" disregards the environment/culture in which a lot of black people grow up in. For example, the #1 killer of young black men is homicide while the #1 killer of your white men is accidents.
Are you serious? Do people like you really think there are women in this country who purposely get pregnant so they can get the welfare check, food stamps and housing assistance? SERIOUSLY? Ignorance is still alive and functioning in America and not just for this lowlife Hatchett who doesn't think a man should have to practice safe sex or wear a condom. The scary part? People like you and this Hatchett vote!
>>William Shockley's theory of retrogressive evolution. (Those that are the least equipped to achieve and provide for their children, are the ones producing the most offspring. Several hundreds of years of this phenomenon will result in a deterioration of desirable genetic characteristics of our species in general)<<
See the movie "Idocracy". It's all there in a surprisingly realistic format. It was a comedy, but it scared the hell out of me! The thug this story is about would fit right in. . .
Frogmorton - This is NOT a REPUBLICAN ISSUE !!! But like the failure of a President O'Bama, it's much easier to blame the other guy and not take any responsibility. The person in this article should give ALL OF HIS PAY to his kids, he can learn to live out of a shopping cart. He's a Poster Chile for a stupid illiterate welfare deadbeat that should be "Castrated". In his culture, the more kids you have the "Bigger" the Welfare payment, having the most kids possible is a way these people make a living. To them it's like work without paying any taxes. But then, our failed President O'Bama has created an "Entitlement Society" where the Government pays for everything and working is not required in some ethnic groups.
Give the man the credit,He's a role model what GOP/TP,Church expected.
He trying to follow the footsteps of Newt Gingrich,I believe many like him ,die-hard herd,has to Depends on Tax's Payers.
Walk the Talk GOPTP?
Um... yeah. SERIOUSLY. It happens a lot in my area with the 'generationals'. Lots of them even encourage it, especially with teenagers.
He needs to understand that welfare was to help women that had children with no father for support. It did happen in the 1960s, mostly to desertion.
Now, most of it is because they can't keep the aspirin between their knees.
You should pay more attention in history class. The good old US of A was deep into the eugenics area before Germany. Hitler based his program on ours. We lauded Hitler at the time and put him on the cover of “Time” as “Man of the Year”. We continued sterilizing undesirable people well into the 1970s
"You should pay more attention in history class"
Oh I paid plenty of attention, and really, you have no idea how well I do know history; so stop the ad hominem @!$%#, ok?
I never said that the US didn't have some backwards laws, in mostly Southern states, as they did. But that didn't affect the entire nation - whereas the Nazis did across the entire Reich. And even down South where the "good ole boys" ruled with an inbred fist, they never had state policy that killed anybody (besides their amazingly frequent use of capital punishment). They had the Klan for that unfortunately...
"We continued sterilizing undesirable people well into the 1970s"
No, a few backwards states did, not "we". Remember that interracial marriages were also still illegal in those same states until only a few years before then - but that doesn't reflect on the rest of the nation who were much more ahead of the times and would have never tolerated that. Comparing the backwards South of the 1900s to the rest of the nation is really not a valid comparison. Nice try though.
OK, by 1956 there were 27 states still practicing eugenics. only 8 were "Southern" states. The US was the first to introduce the practice over a hundred years ago. As disgusting as the practice was, face it, We as a country started it!!
"OK, by 1956 there were 27 states still practicing eugenics. only 8 were "Southern" states"
There's a difference between still having a law on the books and actually doing it - the Southern states were full bore gung ho supporters of it - and it was done frequently - whereas up North it was done much less often.
Don't forget that in that same era, people with minor mental issues were regularly lobotomized!
You've made it more than clear that you're from Sotuh of the Mason/Dixon line and want to pretend that the whole nation was as backwards as the South - and it had its share of problems, but NOTHING alike. They had "strange fruit" down South extremely frequently, yet it only happened in the North on a handful of occasions.
"We as a country started it!!"
Wow... open that history book a little bit more - you're only reading the last chapters of the book.
The practice goes back into antiquity further than recorded history... the difference was that the winner gets to write history, so what is referred to as 'we won the battle' was often a case of 'we exterminated them completely'; or 'we killed all their men and children and impregnated all their women'.
Undesirables were regularly murdered or sterilized, yet you try to make some moronic assertion that it was a phenomenon that started in the US?
Wow, you're super ignorant!!!
Really... go away - you don't even begin to understand history, so stop pretending you know what the hell you're talking about.
True, and as I said, 27 STILL PRACTICING, not just laws on the books.
yes, my home state was one that was practicing it right up until 1979.
California.
(Sotuh?)
You sired them, YOU pay for them. Don't like it? Tough sh!t.
I feel for the kids but I agree. The time for him to think about how he'd support 30 babies was *before* he made them.
If the state pays for anything, it should be to sterilize him.
What is the likelihood he and the 11 women he had all those illegitimate kids with are from the same kind of households? And how many of those women also have kids with other men?
All those 30 kids (and counting, since this jackass has about 40+ years to keep going) will end up doing the same, with most of them in prison or receiving govt. cheese/section 8 and the others working for the govt. via affirmative action. The only positive is that they actually know whom their father is. Maybe.
he could have gone for women who preferred giving head...
What happened to all the free contraceptives we pay for?
Does he make water balloons out of them?
Do the women resell them to underage girls?
Don't tell me they are all Catholics?
Stuff him and the stupid women he humps...
Some people just don't like condoms. It interferes with the fun.
That provision has not kicked in yet. Not till August 1st. I was told by my insurance company it won't kick in for me till Jan 1, 2013 when our policy renews so I have 7 more months of $80/ mo and I take mine for medical treatment.
I'm disgusted by this. This was not an accident due to lack of birth control. He was out to make that many babies. Propably picked dumb women he could manipulate.
Well, he lives in the BuyBull Belt, where teen pregnancy rates are the highest. So, he'll have no problem finding those types. No sex education in schools, eliminating planned parenthood resources wherever they can... We'll see more of this in the future, not less.
20 minutes of fun isn't worth 18 years of responsibility x 30, IMO. Use the rubber.
Frog - I think he has had enough of "sex Ed"...he has a minimum wage job within one hours work time he can afford what, maybe 2 boxes of condoms, ..time for a little personal responsibility, nobody ever paid for mine and i wouldn't ask anyone to do that for me..it is called do the crime , ya do the time
I agree VH Navy....this has nothing to do with sex ed (or the lack of it), but it has EVERYTHING to do with a sense of entitlement...as in: "I'm entitled to do whatever I want (without any thought to acting responsibly) because it 'feels' good". While I do feel for the children, I don't think he should get a dime of assistance....THAT (public sympathy for the kids) is what all these 'slugs' of society count on. No, I think he should get as many jobs as he needs to contribute towards his brood & I think the mothers (who obviously didn't use much sense with bedding down with this loser) should also get together to divide working extra hours and rotating who will watch the children who are not yet school age. Between all of them....they should be able to manage having all hours covered!!
What should happen is that the judge should order this person to pay $500 per month in child support per child. If he falls delinquent - then he goes to jail for non-payment of child support. He cannot breed in prison. And he stays there until he gets his child support payments current. If it never happens, he stays in jail until he dies.
I've seen "castrate him, sterilize him, imprison him." He should have worn a condom. (Too late for that.) Everything except, "Employ him." With a real job that pays a living wage. Maybe those kid will then get a chance at a fair life.
Bob, I do believe there is not a living wage high enough for his skill levels to cover the costs of his lifestyle. Maybe he could make porn,that might be a job he can do to supplement his income. He would have to make a ton of money to take care of 30 kids and their Mamas and he is obviously a dumbass. The women that slept with this foul bastard are just as guilty as he is, and they let him come back multiple times! I am sure they will all be getting their own TV show very soon.
Employ this idiot??? I don't think so! He is obviously lacking in intelligence and common sense thus a liability to anyone that employs him beyond a minimum wage capacity (and he probably is there too).
Honestly; the state of TN needed to take these children at birth when he was named the father. Better adoption than what is in store for them with parents at that level of genius.
Trash!
Is this guy stupid???? It serves him right but both he and the mothers are at fault here and the kids are in the middle. Stop crying-get three jobs if you have to and holster that 'thing' you foolishly call 'love'. Women need to become a little smarter also. Let's see "Sex being taught in school is a 'no-no'!? Women, become a little more independent in your thinking-quit depending on men-give yourself control. USE A DAMN COMDON OR SOME SORT OF BIRTH CONTROL. Here in Arizona, Capn. Jan is making that impossible. Planned Parenthood has just been denied funds to help women about this issue. Go Capn. Jan!@# certainly does not make it easier in this State for our female constituents.
Renee - you are right! I hadn't thought of it that way. Being female myself, I was trying to convince myself that the women were somehow allowing themselves to be tricked and that more of the blame lies on him. However, there is the saying, "Fool me once, shame on me; fool me twice...". These women shouldn't be having kids with men who won't be responsible for helping to support the kids. On the one hand, these women are just incredibly stupid beyond words. On the other hand, they might keep popping out the babies to increase the amount of public assistance they are able to get.
These women shouldn't be having kids with men who won't be responsible for helping to support the kids.
I was going to disagree with you and say "But he IS helping to support the kids, he just doesn't earn enough to help enough." But then I watched the video, and learned that he's not helping out WILLINGLY, the state is FORCING him to pay. I thought he was in court trying to get more help for his kids. No...he's in court looking for help for himself! That makes all the difference....he's a loser POS and so are the women (losers, not POS).
I wonder how many kids these women have with other men??? Surely 3 is not enough for them to be getting the most out of their gov't benefits!
Hey, maybe he can make a little extra on the side by being the poster boy for a Planned Parenthood funding campaign!
Is he stupid? Of course he is! This is the plot to the movie "Idiocracy" in real life!
What companies make hoodies? Think I'd like to invest in one or two of them.
Ignorant reply general.
Yes the state should help him get a vasectomy, that is what he is asking for isn't it?
nah - get him an addacracktome and let him see how the women feel...
Another minimum wage job or two will keep him too tired out to make babies. Sadly that would only give some of these mothers (2*$1.47). So the state should give him free vasectomy, the women free birth control. Since the children are not at fault they should be provided for, but both parents should be billed for the service. A payment plan can be worked out over the working life of the parent.
I remember working two minimum wage jobs to put myself through college and pay my rent in my youth. Between these two jobs and studying I hardly saw sunlight let alone women for quite a while.
Shame on the people who are makig those ugly racial remarks here. It is irresponsible for anyone, black, white,brown or yellow,red, Catholic, Mormon, Octomom, Nineteen kids and counting,(insert yourself here if omitted) to have more chldren than your resources will allow. Most Americans are living just three paychecks away from public assistance
That is just ridiculous! Why would you have that many kids if u can't take care of them! Why go have so many kids & then have to struggle to put food on the table? Heck, its not just u struggling, now u have some poor innocent infant not able to get the the most basic necessities coz his/her parents just couldn't hold themselves back. I mean, I don't mind if Bill gates has 30 kids! He has the means to raise them!
He isn't struggling to support them. The mothers are probably already collecting public assistance for each kid. He is just trying to double dip so that he can keep the money for himself. He probably planned this all along. Otherwise, why didn't he start using contraceptives after kid No. 3 or No. 4? Hopefully, the state won't fall for it.
Eduacate this poor man on how conception occurs, give him sterilization options, give him condoms or get him a job as republican VP-he embodies the ideal.
Actually a lack of personal responsibility combined with government handouts sounds like the oil industry or your mulit-Billion dollar corporation or congressperson or bank.
Let's provide free contraception to everyone, so they can stifle the breeding.
No, he is more the embodiment of Republican morals, after all, he isn't using birth control and that is what Republicans support.
What the he!! does politics have to do with the fact that this 'man' obviously can not perform without getting the person he is with pregnant? Instead of giving him assistance to support these women (?), he needs to be castrated! Sounds like he doesn't have much of a brain, but that's because it's probably located between his legs. He's not the brightest bulb in the pack and neither are the women he is impregnating. He could be the 'poster child' for all the crazies who don't believe in abortion instead of the one for the Democratic party! Give him a carton of Trojans instead and make sure he knows what they are for! They shouldn't be used as play toys for his kids!
Taxpayers will be supporting these children for years. This is basically child abuse and the women are responsible for this.
jw101, Abortions are not the option. The option is forced sterilization of ANY woman that has more than one child and needs to rely on Welfare.
Any man that makes more than one child and the state has to pay for the children, sterilize him as well.
If they hit it rich and want more kids, then the procedure can be reversed and have all the kids they can afford.
Someone said that they don't want to live like NAZIs (or Chinese), but not everything they did and are doing is bad. In this case I support forced sterilization.
great republican ideology. after trying to ban abortion everywhere, and banning birth control programs & planned parenthood, and banning sex education in schools so all you're left with is total ignorance -- sit around and whine about how situations (like this one) are the fault of Liberals.
perfect logic.
Frog,
Abortion is legal, contraception can be gotten free at any high school or clinic such as Planned Parenthood, which has not been shut down, sex education is still being taught in school, and yet this man manages to create 30 children. So even after the Democrats get everything they've been whining about, you're still going to blame the Republicans. Exactly how many of those children were born because the mother was UNABLE to get contraception or abortion? How many were born because she was UNWILLING to use it?
Sorry, but this is the fault of liberals. Years of giving welfare to moms as long as there was no husband in the household, years of encouraging fathers to disappear so the taxpayers will support their children, years of discouraging personal responsibility -- this falls on your doorstep, liberals. Your chickens have come home to roost.
We will never know how many women "couldn't" get contraception because it wasn't covered by insurance and she couldn't afford it. and some schools have gone to abstinence only sex education, which statistics say doesn't work (imagine that). Just because abortion is legal does not mean it is an appropriate method for birth control. There are not planned parenthood offices in every community, and to enter the doors, a woman sometimes has to put up with protesters and heckling. It isn't always easy.
No child should be forced to go hungry. we live in the richest society that has ever existed in the history of the world, and we can take care of our own.
That said, i am all for requiring proof of birth control before there is any government support for more than one child,...and this guy should be required to get a vasectomy before he is eligible for any type of aid. Having and raising a child is not a right.
Yes i am a Democrat, yes I am a progressive.
I am so sick of Children being born as a source of income. In this day and age there is no excuse you can walk into any drug store and prevent it but with that said mistakes do happen and I am ok with helping a young girl out for her one mistake but when it turns into 2, 3, 4 and a 15 time mistake. I have to cut you off. I do not think you should be given Gov't assistance because your a single mother unless the circumstances warrant it. If your in school and you need the assistance to get you through until you get your degree thats fine I am more than willing to help but if you had sex and the end result was a kid you or society did not plan on Ill help you then too, but only if you agree to get an education that gets off public assistance in 2 to 4 years! Public assistance should not be a way of life it should only be just that temporary assistance to get you and your kids a better life. They want to take social security away fromn those of us who worked for it but leave these habitual baby makers on public assitance for years. Give these girls a means to an end educate them and do not reward them four, five and six plus kids enough is enough already.
can't get contraception because it isn't covered by insurance are you insane?? They sell condoms in the dollar store now??? The pill is not the only means of contraception!!! You can get the contraceptive sponge on line from Canada if you don't like condoms. Show proof of birth control before you get assistance???? I am a Democract too but progressive must have the new meaning of stupidity because it certainly doesn't mean moving forward in your case or common sense!!! Bottom line we will help you out for 1 child for two to four years until you obtain a degree of some sort and get yourself a decent paying job!!!! I prefer simple over progressive!
He should kill himself. What a @!$%#in loser. Sell some of those dumb ass piglets on the black market. There's your @!$%#in money @!$%#.
Wow...nice. What did the kids do to be called names?
He is an idiot and so are the mothers. Maybe he should start selling his sperm...and plasma...a couple of kidneys...
Please don't give him or the networks any ideas!!!
Yo, Desmond…. Here’s “Doctor Snip’s” phone number in Knoxville: (865) 305-5000.
Their address is: 1932 Alcoa Hwy # C475, Knoxville, TN 37920.
We made you an appointment for 3:15 PM on Monday 5/21…. Don’t be late.
do you take donations, might as well pay now because i am sure I will be paying for it later if i don't...sorry too late there are 30 reason i will be paying later...hopefully these kids turn out to be success stories and get as far away from their "parents" as soon as possible.
Why should he get help paying child support? Condoms are cheaper than babies! Maybe he should get help paying for sterilization.
Instead of giving him help, we need to sterilize him. We neuter stray cats, yet we allow these genes to multiply and drain our economy. Where is the quality of our genome ? down the drain for sure. A human disgrace.
While the article does not mention it, I would imagine that those mothers are on welfare.
No, Renee, I do not imagine that the mothers are on welfare because they are black, but because they have so many children they can obviously not provide for, since they need his child support.
Welfare programs didn't destroy African American families. They destroyed themselves by having more kids than they can support and usually out-of-wedlock. If government assistance destroys families, then why has it not equally destroyed families of whites, Asians, etc.? The government needs to stop paying any assistance whatsoever after the second child is born. It families with 6 or 10 kids have to be grandfathered in, then fine. Just put a stop to assistance for more than two kids from this point forward.
@Really? - When Clinton passed welfare reform in the 90s, it ended the getting more money for more kids racket. Where have you been? By the way, there are more white people on welfare and food stamps than black, so take your idiotic racism and shove it. Bad behavior is bad behavior. As a matter of fact, I've been screwed over by a lot more white people than black (I'm white, by the way), so maybe I should hate white people. Fortunately, I'm not that stupid.
Bryan - You have probably also come into contact with more white people than black. If you calculate the percentage of white people who have screwed you based on the number with whom you have had contact and calculate the same for the number of black people with whom you have had contact, I'd be willing to bet that the percentages are about equal.
It doesn't stop with welfare. The earned income credit is abused, too. If you got 5 kids and can get a REFUNDABLE credit for claiming three of them through the IRS at tax time, you have two left. Your sistah has one child to claim and she wont get as much money as you (because she has been using condoms since age 13 and only meesed up once). You "sell" your two kids to your sistah so she can use their social security numbers and names. She gets much more money from her tax return for now having three kids and you split it or gift the money to your sister.
Earned income? Need income to qualify? No problem. Make up a business, say braiding hair and nails in your basement, make up some numbers so you make a profit and submit it. I'm a licensed tax preparer and it is done all the time.
He should kill himself. What a phuckin loser. Sell some of those dumb ass piglets on the black market. There's your phuckin money dip-schit.
if he would kill himself he better make it an accident so at least his 30 kids would get social security benifits......i bet he wishes he was dead now....lol.....some people just make me laugh and he is one of them.....but i bet they all on medicad and foodstamps!
Most mothers nowadays do not put the father of her child on the birth certificate-don't know why. If the father dies DNA is needed to confirm the paternity. Seen it hundres of times-worked in a welfare office-and for some reason these women seem to be 'protecting' the father. The fathers dies and his offsping are pretty much screwed when it comes to SS benefits. It's true probably most of those 30 mothers may be on foodstamps, cash assistance and medical.
Most out of wedlock mothers, probably don't know who the father of their baby is, the list of suspects has been trimmed down to ten, so far. To list all possibilities, would require a page two of the birth certificate.
Castrate him. Fix him like a dog. He has the brains of one.
More the like the brains of a rabbit...
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sucks to be him!
Actually ....it sucks to be his kids......
No, it sucks to be US paying for his irresponsibility and that of the "mothers" of the children.
He must be a hell of a stud.
"Don't worry 'bout a thing baby-doll, I' the man you been dreaming of."
Dude, you can't feed'em, don't breed'em.
He and these women are all equally foolish and irresponsible, The poor kids are all the victims here.
Who are these women???!!! They're the idiots.
Minimum wage should be at least $20 per hour by now. The game has been rigged for so long now, people are used to it...
Disgusting. No way should our taxes pay for his child support problems. I've seen too much of this.
Boo Hooh. As usual it is the innocent children that have to suffer because of stupid grownup actions. State may
have to put all the children in foster homes if the parents and not fit to take care of the children.
Actually it sucks to be US, having to support his irresponsibility along with the so called "mothers" of these children. He's lucky he lives in the United States.
He wouldn't be producing anything if he was sent to prison for not paying child support. Folks, less than 2 dollars a month per child is not support let alone cover the paperwork needed for this scum bag.. Let him do mandatory visitation with ALL the little buggers, AT ONE TIME, then he will eligible for mental health services and care. Yeah........ he and his seed working the system. No doubt.
75% of black mothers under 30 are unwed. This is the real tragedy. The disintegration of the family due to community acceptance of this disaster is at the root. There is no shame anymore, no condemnation, only increased reliance on the state as parent and guardian. Children having children.
Procrustes, How do you know that the women he dates and have children by are not white? Some of them may well be. But you are right about the disintegration of the black family. It cannot be denied.
Alas, Pro, I have read that a high percentage of mothers under 30 are unwed, too.
If the state does ANYTHING, they better make sure this sucker gets an irreversible vasectomy before he gets another cent. Next thing you know, he'll be spreading HIV all around the south....
More than half of marriages are going to end anyway. A lot of people don't seem to see the point in bothering with it in the first place.
Also I've never heard anyone mention benefits as a reason to not get married. There's correlation, but very little causation. Other factors come into play.
A State-funded vasectomy, I should think...
But it's nice to see that he's found something that he's good at...and obviously enjoys. Too bad there's not a way to make money at it..
I think its called porn.
At least the women in porn are taking birth control and he can get paid. Maybe give those 30 kids a better life at what he is good at.
Has he met the Octomom? I think they might engage in deep discussions about philosophy, ethics, moral responsibility, delayed gratification, economics ...
Have his gang support him. 11 losers with a job might help.