Who, me?

ctviking...

Why not? Wallstreet and the government have been taking money from the public and spending it on risky business deals and faux wars. So why shouldn't they give some of those funds back to the public? It's our money in the first place.

First, tremendous applause to this lady for standing up for what she believes in.

ctviking

BS, She's a gigantic pain in the a$$ just like the rest of them. How about doing something productive instead of demanding the government take more of someone else's money.

In case you forgot she is practicing her rights to peacefully assembly. You know nothing about this lady, and can you answer the question she asked?

And to those who may wonder why she is out on the streets protesting, she has a question of her own in turn: “I’d say, ‘Are you certain that everything is the way you want it?’"

I can answer it. NO, Everything isn't the way I want it....

JJD-561872 -

The government takes your money. It's called taxes. You give your money to wall street. It's called investing and no one forces you to do it.

I don't give my tax money to wallstreet, the government does. We reward corporations for exporting their jobs to other countries with a tax cut. We pay more in taxes so rich oil companies already making record profits a 4 billion dollar tax cut (subsidy), so they can keep more of their profits. How is this right???? I realize we have wasteful spending in social programs as well. Wouldn't it be better if we cut all that fat and the government started spending on things that really make a difference?

BS, She's a gigantic pain in the a$$ just like the rest of them. How about doing something productive instead of demanding the government take more of someone else's money

Only a MEGA-TROLL would demand that a great-grandmother get to being productive when she's probably done more in her lifetime than you ever will in 10 lifetimes.

JJD,

I am forced to pay taxes, which I do willingly for my country, to help create a better society, not to sponsor unnecessary wars or grossly elaborate lifestyles.

When I invest, I expect those funds to be treated with respect and care, not treated like gambling money for someone's whim on risky business. Wallstreet needs to be made accountable for the mess they have created.

I applaude these men and women, young and old, for standing up for all of us against this financial terrorism.

NeverStopAskingQuestions It is not the republicans who signed us into Afghanistan until 2024. Obama did that. Bring the troops home and fix the problems here. And like me she isn't worried about herself. We grew out of that a long time ago. She like many of the rest of us worries about the 12 grandchildren and the 14 one on the way great grandchildren. Now I don't totally agree with her plan but I do agree with her stand because I have made the same decision. I am willing to go to jail or die for my vision of America.

Wow! I thought respect for our elders was supposed to be one of those conservative values they are always going on about. Guess it's just another right wing nut job lie as we can plainly see by their posts.

Fed Up, you need to do a little reading. Congress was not omitted from the Health bill. In it it states that Congress starting in 2014 will have to start buying from one of the Insurance Pools set up under the Health Care bill. So no, they are not excluded from the bill. Do some reading.

FedupwithFed -- Funny, I have relatives of all ages in Canada. A good number of them have had a host of serious health problems. Not a single one ever complained about the care they have been receiving in Canada, nor have they been compelled to come to the U.S. I also have relatives in various countries of northern Europe and the same scenario applies. They have been getting excellent healthcare, regardless of age. I'm assuming you're getting your information from FOX "news."

Wet Willy. Where in the story does it say that the Grandmother wants more stuff for herself? Is says she would like to see more money spent on Health Care and other things instead of wars. I would like that my self. She is not asking for herself. Get real.

@Kim= Faux wars? Does that mean my buddies that got killed are Faux Dead? My fellow Soldiers lost Faux limbs? You idiots vote other idiots into office that send us off to war, it's your fault. We go where we're told because we took an oath to do it, you don't know the meaning of that and your sniveling kind never will. You are a Faux Citizen.

Respect the elders, or denigrate them at your own karmic risk. Thank you Grandmother, may you be blessed with success in every endeavor, may those who stand against you find nothing below their feet, no wall of protection around their disrespect. Thank you, young people, standing for all of us in the face of racists, bigots, and fascists, let none of them remain in the dawning of the new day we are creating. Lele-Woplila-Tanka, the age of tyranny is ending.

SSI and Disability are not entitlements. We paid into the funds and if congress had done what they were supposed to do and invest the money in growth capitol instead of stealing it for their pet projects and funding wars and people who hate us, there wouldn't be a problem now. We pay into the system and they flush it down the drain giving our money to corporations who are sending our jobs overseas funded by US taxpayers.

Kim I agree SS is not an entitlement when you work your whole life paying into it...but unfortunately that is not how it seems to work now...how many bums in their 20's, 30's and 40's draw from it claiming they are disabled but still manage to work under the table while drawing it? As long as anyone can draw from it before their retirement age for any reason it is an entitlement program. People will take advantage of it just like any other entitlement program and milk it for all it's worth.

I work in the recycling industry...I find it amazing how many disabled people out there drawing from the SS fund there are still able to go out every day and collect scrap metal and sell it. I would think if they were truly disabled they would not be able to do that 6 days a week.

Todd, I thank you for your service even if I don't believe the wars were justified.

I think you are being a little overly reactive to Kims choice of words. I believe she is referring to them as faux wars because there was no need for them, as in the US was never in any danger from Iraq or Afghanistan.

We are or were only there to look out for the interests of US corporations at the expense of US tax payers. We invaded Iraq behind some lie about 911 but all of those guys were from saudi arabia, and last time I checked right wing moneygrubbing war mongers love them to death second only to isreal.

Maybe instead of wasting your time hating the citizens you swore to protect, you should direct your anger at the politicians who sent you and your buddies to fight and die so their corporate masters could make a few more bucks.

Oh and be careful, it's a long fall down from up on that high ass horse.

The Republican't season of the mean:

Tell the fairy tale that Social Security is an Entitlement, instead of, truthfully, insurance that everyone who WORKS pays into (Social Security has no effect on the so-called Deficit) . The Season of the Republican't mean: Beat up Grandma because she is a threat to the Grand Obstructionist Parties billionare and trillionare friends and bankers. Season of the mean: Ignore conservative values if "Grandma" should even give a hint of supporting Democratic or people issues; conservative values that is, which say, respect grandma (Unless she is a Democrat)

In 2012 we have a choice. We can vote for Corporate Raider Willard Romney and watch Romney liquidate the United States and sell it off to the highest bidder, like he did the good jobs in Ohio, Michigan and Indiana. We can watch Corporate Raider Willard Romney send what few Jobs are left in the USA, out of the country... Or, we can vote for President Obama whom defends Senior Citizens, the Disabled, the Poor and Disadvantaged and President Obama has tried many times to get legislation through the congress to save our jobs. The Republican't Obstruction machine blocked each and every good job bill. (And quite often the Republican'ts were helped by Joe "Republican" Lieberman whom claimed to be the 60th Democrat but voted very often with the Grand Obstructionist Party)

2012 is a critical year. Will we once and for all, say "End this season of the Mean now!" by voting out every single teabagger in congress and all state houses or Will we vote same old same ole and proclaim loudly " As long as I get my Pay Check, I don't care if Grandma is thrown to the curve?".

And thats my opinion.

Firstly...Todd, God love you for defending our country. I think you misunderstood my meaning. My comment was not directed to our veterans or their sacrifices, it was directed at those in charge who dictate who and when we send you men and women to fight.

Second....Thank you livinginthewoods, well said.

Third...10tacle, let me see if I understand what you are trying to say... so you aren't against the social security tax so much as you are against those that run the program? Is that what you are trying to say?

The old bag is protesting that the government doesn't give her enough free stuff.

Someone doesn't know how to read. She wants money to go to "health and education initiatives and not to war."

If you are going to insult a brave old lady then at least do it with things she actually said. When you assume things you just look like an ass.

"Kim I agree SS is not an entitlement when you work your whole life paying into it"

Some of you need to learn what the word "entitlement" means. SS and Medicare are entitlements because you're entitled to them. You paid for them. Welfare and Medicaid, however, are not; they're govt assistance programs.

AG99,

I think you're mincing words here...yes, I know what the definition of entitlement actually means, however, as it is being used nowadays it refers to programs provided by our government through taxes collected to assist people who are having financial difficulties.

The word has "morphed", so to speak, and I think most people understand that...are we clear on this yet?

RealAmericanNow

Your name should be realrobberbaronnow. You're not a real American if you believe this Great Grandmother is harming you in some way.

Susi and Verno, too bad you cant read...I posted my link. As a nurse, I have treated SEVERAL patients from Canada and Europe who are tired of WAITING for health care there. Do your OWN research!

Read more from LIBERAL sites!

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-215_162-2667482.html

Kim, the word hasn't morphed for me. If we use the same word to describe two different types of programs (those we've paid for and those the govt pays out as assistance programs), we can end up arguing about completely different things.

When people say we need to rein in entitlements, are they talking about SS/Medicare/UE which we've paid for, or are they talking about Welfare/Medicaid programs to aid the poor? Two people might agree yet end up arguing because they think the word means different things. Words matter.

I had a near fatal heart attack Jan 4, 2012 due to a blocked artery 100%. I am not over weight, it was genetic, my father had a heart attack last April at 71. I am 54 years old. I had a difibillator implant April 24, 2012. I have health insurance through my company. My company representatives pay for my disability. I paid into short term and they pay long term. So, I have been responsible paying into all of the programs that make it possible for me to retire medically, because my heart condition has disabled me to be able to work again. I will reach maybe a 40% heart function in time. I worked 12-14 hour days and some weeks 7 straight days none off, so I have earned my retirement albeit earlier than when I wanted to retire. I learned to work hard because of my father. I am a real story, not MSNBC fiction or baiting. Jealousy is the real problem today instead of lazy people thinking they have a right to wealth they havent earned or gripe when someone else has earned their way in life. They are jealous because someone like myself has worked and earned my way. I dont know this grandmother figure, but I do know greed is a problem in every society. I am willing to wager that the protestors who "occupy" havent earned their way through work and therefore are jealous little irresponsible children who do not have jobs, expecting others to hand them an earned life.

10tacle: "SS most certainly IS an entitlement"

Yes, you are right about that, but based upon the rest of your comment you have no idea what "entitlement" means. An "entitlement" is something that a person is entitled to. Since most of us pay into SS our whole working lives, we are entitled to collect benefits from it.

If you think you are better off investing your money yourself, the government lets you do that through 401Ks and IRAs and doesn't even charge you income tax on that money. Plus if you find that you are good at that you could go into day-trading and not have to pay SS taxes on your income. Since you are complaining about having to pay SS taxes, I gather that you are not good enough at Wall Street investing to allow you to make guaranteed gains, so maybe you should just stick with SS.

May 23, 1780

"We in these regiments are like so many fish...

Hardly any mouth is given to contain a tongue,

but most have teeth as Congress shall soon learn."

Sergeant Joseph Martin

of the Connecticut Line,

Continental Army of the United States.

[Just before the mutiny at Basking Ridge and Jockey Hollow, New Jersey in which he took part].

From: "A NEW AGE NOW BEGINS" by Page Smith.

I live in Chicago and we have all had it with aging hippie reporters trying to relive the 1960s or naive 20 somethings sorry they missed the party.

There are 5 times more stories about the "protesters" than there are about the actual event. The news media breathlessly reports each and every time somebody gets arrested.

They all secretly can't wait for the cameras to catch a policeman beating the crap out of some protester.

News Flash: This is 2012, not 1968. The protesters and the police are getting along just fine, with a few exceptions. In a city of 3 million, several dozen crackpots get arrested every day, without the news cameras.

Granny is not going to die or even get beat up. She likely will not have any good stories to tell her grandkids. When the protesters need a break, there is a Starbucks on every corner.

Can we focus on the substance of the G8 conference and leave the wannabe pretend rioters out of the equation? All they really want is attention.

If the government would raise the $106,000 cap of social security tax payments, there wouldn't an issue with SS. Why not make it a Million or a Billion dollar cap?

Strange that no one commented on Obama moving the G8 to Camp David. Perhaps he didn't want them to see the protesters, making him look foolish and showing that he is NOT the one to be giving advice!

Fed up.... Barry can do that because it's not on his dime, the extra expense is carried by American taxpayers... just like the $14 million in concerts he's held at the White House for his friends and family! The guy continues to act like he's King of the United States, and cannot be held accountable! Vote him out now!

So RealAmericanNow -- You must agree then that the Wall St bailout was the largest single entitlement on record and guess what -- it went to the rich 1%, because that is the group that owns/controls Wall St. Do you think for 1 second that they would let their own wealth be at risk. The second largest entitlement on an ongoing basis is the military / industrial complex - this is also an entitlement for the 1% because they are the only group with assets requiring a nations resources to protect. Don't bring up the glop about the "yellow peril" and "freedom". Without some degree of economic freedom, political freedom has little meaning. The uber wealthy should pay a national "asset protection premium" based on the value of their wealth -- just like an insurance policy !!

Why should we do that, onermailliw; so that the ambitious, productive members of society can provide a bennie for you and your can't-quite-cut-it crowd?

And to those who may wonder why she is out on the streets protesting, she has a question of her own in turn: “I’d say, ‘Are you certain that everything is the way you want it?’"

This is all I need to read. Amazing! A 75 year old with the mental maturity of a 16 year old spoiled brat. This is the befuddled mindset representative of the entire occupy "movement". We hate stuff! Rich people suck! Give me! Everything is not the way I want it right now, argh! You're all pathetic and too stupid to recognize it.

"If the government would raise the $106,000 cap of social security tax payments, there wouldn't an issue with SS. Why not make it a Million or a Billion dollar cap?"

I've often wondered about this. The only thing I can figure is since the amount of the SS check you get is determined by how much you earned, perhaps they don't tax the higher amounts because they don't want to cut them bigger checks when they retire.

If you live long enough, you get way more out than you put in, presumably even more so for the rich who as a group are likely to live longer anyway. Maybe it would actually cost more to collect SS at the higher amounts and then have to pay it back out.

Just guessing.

JQ 12261891 - You might be over reaching a bit. This grandma was just saying the money being spent in Afghanistan would be better spent to help people in our own country; and, she is right.

The United States and NATO forces cannot drag or pull a 14th century Muslim-focused society and lifestyle into the year 2012.

The people of Afghanistan are content to live in a draconian environment. Unless or until the people of Afghanistan grow weary of their way of life, nothing will change.

The Soviets tried for several years, and failed miserably. Then, some reasoning impaired individual in U.S. government decided, "Hey, we can do it! We'll get that job done!" Now, several years later, the U.S. and NATO forces are armpit deep in a swampy whirlpool that is sucking millions of dollars each and every day.

As a veteran, (1962-1966), I generally support the U.S. government; but, continuing to waste dollars, and the lives of our brave men and women in uniform serving in Afghanistan, is silly and careless.

We need to get out NOW, no later than June 30, 2012, not some time in 2013 or 2014.

There is no valid reason why the U.S. and NATO cannot just pack up and leave that terrible wasteland, NOW, rather than later...

Interesting piece of propaganda. I wonder if the writer is one of those who did a story on the Tea Party protestors as racists?

Mr Accountability-2446281, now that you are on a decline, although you worked hard. The trolls will insult you, call you names, your insurance company will drop you if Obama care fails, and the company that you slaved for will forget you. This is capitalism at its worst, these corporations don't care about you as individuals, rather they spend money to brainwash idiots who post commments like be productive to a 75 yr old lady, to folks who are brainwashed into thinking they are paying taxes for entitlements that they will depend on, as their tax rates go up and the wealthy rates decline.

God Bless you and hope you do well.

Way to go Grannie. She has every right to assemble and speak . Isn't that a right mentioned in the Constitution that you on the right throw out there when it suits your purpose? I was arrested twice in the late 60's/early 70's for civil disobedience and my Mom protested in the 50's against above ground nuclear testing. Don't tell me that peaceful assembly doesn't work because it does.

There are plenty of grannies in the Tea Party, and I don't respect their extreme points of view any more or less than this lady's. Like the Tea Partiers, the Occupy crowd has grossly simplified complex problems and offered a variety of extreme and untenable solutions.

She's part of the problem with the US political scene today, and she just happens to be on the left side of the problem. She's old, and like many on the unhelpful fringes of the political spectrum, she has a flair for the dramatic.

Non story.

relaxdontdoit, so are you.

There are plenty of elderly in the Tea Party, this woman has GUTS and is to be admired for speaking her mind. And for the ***** that wrote about her being a problem, Excuse me! Her generation is the cure. I loved the comment to him from Richard Small LOL good one!

Go Granny go

@ Dick, d@mn right I'm a non story! Hope to stay that way...

@ Diane, her generation has contributed greatly, but they are in no way the cure. Future generations are the cure, and I believe even granny was saying that's where war funding should be going.

Look, I don't mean to beat up on granny at all and didn't mean she personally is part of any problem. I see the Occupy on the left, and the Tea Party on the right as pulling Americans in opposite directions away from the necessary workable budgets, regulations (or lack thereof), and decisions that preserve economic opportunity in the US.

In that respect, both the Occupy and Tea Party movements are somewhat counterproductive.

10Tacle,I heard the same line when I was a kid that the social security would not be there when I retired,I am now seventy three and it is still there.

You are right about repeating Rick Perry's words that the ss is a ponzi scheme,but you are missing one other thing,the whole monetary system is a ponzi scheme since the gold backing has been removed,fiat money.

The woman is 75. She is aware of her age, and aware of the potential for injury, given the stormtrooper tactics already used. She has made a conscious decision to stand up for what she believes. I say bravo.

@Jordan, - revisit your comments after the anarchists start destroying property of the 99%. To label leo's as storm troopers for keeping criminal activity under control is simply an attempt to keep them on the sidelines. If the demonstrations are indeed peaceful, there should be no need for any violence. If the trouble makers in the movement start destroying property and injuring innocents, including those in the movement, the leo's have to stop it. Otherwise, you get the similarly stupid comment about the leos standing by and letting the people be hurt and property destroyed. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Better yet, why not volunteer to be a part time leo, strap on the hot bulky equipment and wait to be immolated in a molotov cocktail? I would like to see a standing order that anyone seen throwing a molotov cocktail be shot on sight. It's plain and simple attempted murder.

The largest potential for danger to her lies with the very group of miscrants and petulant children she has chosen to associate with!

She's 75 years old. She's earned the right to waste her time in whatever way she wants to.

Yo..if all the folks that disagree w/ the current health care system..whats your brillant plan for the high cost of health care that individuals pay for themselves monthly..or the folks that have zero health care. Health care should not be afforded to them..? To the rest of the folks that think they have their financial future figured out..great. But what about the folks that do not...Tough. THEY should be allowed to perish in their own squalor..just not in my neighborhood. As long as I DON'T HAVE TO INTERACT w/ those people.. money should not be the focus or the measure of a life's success. It seems that all of us posting should use intraspective skills and realize we all might have a little entitlement and/or petulance in our comments.

Granny is a nutjob.
End of story.

Mike, why is she a nut job? For wanting to see more of the money spent on wars to be spent for education and Health Care? Does that make her a nut job? If she is a nut job then about 75% of Americans are nut jobs.

"Signs of Dementia" Perhaps you need to look to Romney - Boehner - McConnell - Cantor - Ryan - and the rest of the "just say no" party to remind them their oath was to this country and takes precedent over the pledge they signed to Norquist. Also there are many forms of "Dementia" there is early onset, alcohol related dementia - and the list goes on an on - before you attack a 75 year old woman; maybe you should look in the mirror and see the rude - disrespectful individual looking back. Hope you show your grandparents more respect, if not my condolences to them there must have been a defect in the gene pool.

most of you will never understand the concept of NOT living for fabricated and imposed ideals. this lady will go down in history no different than rosa parks. nice to hear the sedentary cattle moo off the courageous in order to feel secure in a freedom of speech that is unfortunately submissive to a LACK of freedom of thought. beachole dot wordpress. find yourselves, and do not disturb those that have followed the links down the chain of oppression all the way to the hands you defend. this benefits you... step aside and let the thinkers think while you mow your front yard and consume at command.

tempus, we hear about religious nut-jobs who are willing to kill or die for their fairy tails everyday, correct? it's nice to hear she is willing to die for something that actually has meaning and not based on fanatical delusions.

@Lorr, please calm yourself. Have been working w/Alz and dementia folks for years and such an odd comment is of concern. It would be a concern even if she said she would be happy to die at a Dem or GOP rally/convention.

@tempus, just because she is old doesn't mean she's confused, she's willing to die for America as much as people who enlist to defend it. I'm afraid for America to the point that it seems like it's honor is a long lost myth.

@beachole, I'll let the freethinkers mow my front yard

When did working and paying taxes become requirements for citizenship?

So, do you only hate the first amendment or is it all of the US Constitution that you wipe your ass with?

She has more wisdom in her bunions than the entire Party of No and their knuckle-dragging sycophants.

You go, Granny!

People like you are precisely the problem. "Work? Pay Taxes?? Not For Me!!!"

How very rich, livinginthewoods, a member of the group that believes that our Constitution is a fungible document, using that very Constitution to attempt to discount anothers position! Good use of Alinskys number Ten rule of ethics!

Nice try but, I pay plenty of taxes, I just don't piss and moan about it all day long. My home and both vehicles are paid for cash(personal responsibility anyone?)

The difference is that, I realize not everone can work and not everyone can afford to pay taxes either so, that means those that can pick up the slack for those that can't.

Your screen name is a disgrace to every person who ever fought and died for the freedom we all enjoy, I hope you know that.

Can you describe to me your veiw of a real American?

Ted, exactly what group am I a member of? Let me know cause it will be news to me!

Thank you livinginthewoods, nicely said.

You miss the fundamental point LivingWoods and tend to put words in others mouths based on assumptions. The protestors do not know what they are actually protesting. Having a work experience and knowing how lop sided the system is towards Corporate America is the issue. They have NONE for the most part. Ask one of them what it is all about, it is really theoritical to them and most jumped on a bandwagon they have no idea where it is going.

Comments here are emotional and not based on what is happening, I think what granny is doing is cool, good for her but where is her current life expereince on what is going on? None again. You obviously live in the woods and I think you should ask them the question yourself. Hitch the horsey up and trot down to a protest, you will be enlightened...........

I'd like to see a requirement that only working people can vote. I'm tired of freeloaders voting.

Mike, I'm tired of fascists speaking(and breathing for that matter) but, that is life, we all have to deal with each other.

Seven, what words did I put in someones mouth?

I just love how you and other cons take it for granted that you know it all and everybody else is ignorant.

I, myself have worked plenty in my life but, there are other ways to gain experience and just because a person has never been a corporate slave does not mean they don't have eyes and a brain in their head.

Mike, so if you become unemployed you should not be able to vote either? Is that what you want? You sound like an idiot.

seven2seven, isn't the witnessing of gradual deterioration of a great country in the hands of your government sufficient life-experience for granny to leave her comfort zone at seventy-five while the cattle analyzes her from their own? please

there IS a direct connection between people that have limited understanding of what's really taking place globally at their expense and the type of comment most of you are making against the protesters. fear will not let you see past your nose, your television, your debts and your nine to five. wake up.

beachole dot wordpress

comical how most assume that the repairs needed in this society will come from the government... WE THE PEOPLE.

Our current government on all levels really is the problem, they have set themselves up as tyrants for many situations, forgetting or ignoring the fact it is a service. Our Founding Fathers understood the difference between setting themselves up as kings rather than servants of the people. George Washington was approached to become King of the New Republic and he refused to go that route, look at history, he understood. Our Founding Fathers were flawed men as all men are flawed, but they established by writ the greatest Republic in the world, with freedoms that no other has established or upheld to date. No other country in the world has "We the People" beginning their writ of rights and establishment of government, but the real problem has been those who must be the sole power to force others under their boot. We have a government that is out of control and right now a Commander and Chief forcing his edicts via Executive Orders, without the involvement of the Balance of Power. How many Executive Orders have to be written before some of you get the message? This has become an abuse of power at its best efforts behind closed doors and an enfringement upon the rights of every American, Liberal or Conservative.

May 23, 1780

"We in these regiments are like so many fish...

Hardly any mouth is given to contain a tongue,

but most have teeth as Congress shall soon learn."

Sergeant Joseph Martin

of the Connecticut Line,

Continental Army of the United States.

[Just before the mutiny at Basking Ridge and Jockey Hollow, New Jersey in which he took part].

From: "A NEW AGE NOW BEGINS" by Page Smith.

Someone in the stoner drum circle side of the occupy camp needs to calm Ercillor down.

Common Man,

The problem I see, is that our government is spending public assistance funds on illegal immigrants, people who come to America with no intention of becoming citizens and have child after child after child, when the system was created to help Americans. So now, because of all the illegal financial assistance we've been providing, Americans can't get the help they need, there just isn't enough to go around.

We need to stop supporting illegal immigrants.

We need to stop supporting welfare mamas and people who won't work for a living.

I can see the point about illegals.

The worst part is most illegals have jobs and no trouble finding them while Americans can't get anything but a job flipping burgers for min wage. And, since the jobs are tax free under the table deals, they still receive benefits.

No more anchor babies - make it retroactive - drug test welfare recipients - put a limit on the number of children allowed on welfare - read about the idiot that fathered 30 kids with 11 women - how about a forced vasectomy for the idiot - no support for illegals other than a ticket back to their country - after being processed for identity so if they come back again, they are jailed, then sent back home

RealAmericanNow,

I agree, however, haven't you noticed...there is a 5 year limit on how long a person can collect cash assistance. We no longer "support" people on welfare for their whole lives.

Rich, the whole time I read your little post, all I could hear in my head was the DarthVader music....Dum....dum.dum.dum...dum.dum.dum....

I have a buddy who thinks alot like you. He actually told me he was completely in favor of a police state. Of, course the @!$%#ing hypocrite married a illegal so she could stay in the country.

I don't like the anchor baby situation anymore than you do but, you can't pick and choose which parts of the Constitution you like and piss on the rest.

Common, And it has been 48 years. At what cost per ratio have they succeeded? I have known Generational welfare dating back to 1982. The system is flawed that it allows mothers to have children by multiple FATHER'S who help pay for ZIP of their children. Add to that every Illegal that has a child we pay Delivery through High School + Education.. Times up people, we are tired of funding people's lives. Either you pay or you do not make it. Quit asking me for more money because I worked my A$$ off to get where I am at...

I am not spamming. I just don't believe in collapsing posts.

She has more wisdom in her bunions than the entire Party of No and their knuckle-dragging sycophants.

You go, Granny!

No.

No, Gulfwar, you do not know "generational welfare back to 1982", because in 1996, they capped lifetime welfare benefits at five years. Not five years per kid, just five years, period. In some states, it's only 48 months. If these people you know have been on welfare for generations up into the present, they're committing welfare fraud, and you should report them.

Once they cross that line they are no different than any other criminal and should be arrested.

Everone out there on the street agrees 100% with that statement! That is why they are out there to see the money grubbing thugs who raped and robbed this country brought to justice.

Living, She was bused in by Liberal Union Nurse's. I am a Nurse and it is the Hospital's that are ripping off the Nurses. I went 6mos without insurance for my family, Yet I was a full time Nurse in a large Level One Hospital. Add to that my Retirement was a match of 1-5% into a 401K. Who the HE!! are these Nurses protesting for? The union? Which most Nurses do not belong to? You have to work multiple jobs as a nurse and there is no guarantee that you will be able to retire..

Welcome to life in the middle class gulfwar! What is your point?

The hospitals, insurance companies, and drug companies have been @!$%#ing us all for as long as I can remember. Why do you think nurses should be any different? You are not one of them. You were not born with a silver spoon up your ass so you don't matter to them.

Some people may blame nurses and doctors for the high cost of health care, I am not one of them. That is the exact same mentality as blaming the poor for the economy or blaming troops for the wars. I don't blame victims for the crime. The blame lies much further up the economic ladder.

Thanks livinginthewoods, glad to see your still posting. Another great post!!!!

Thank you Kim, I have enjoyed your posts as well.

It is about time for me to return to real life though, the wife and kids will be home soon.

Don't get too comfortable though, all you loud mouthed fascists out there. I will be back in the morning.

Glad to hear it!

May 23, 1780

"We in these regiments are like so many fish...

Hardly any mouth is given to contain a tongue,

but most have teeth as Congress shall soon learn."

Sergeant Joseph Martin

of the Connecticut Line,

Continental Army of the United States.

[Just before the mutiny at Basking Ridge and Jockey Hollow, New Jersey in which he took part].

From: "A NEW AGE NOW BEGINS" by Page Smith.

Gulfwar1991, you are so right. It's not the citizens that are ripping off Medicare, Medicaid, and SS, it is the doctors, hospitals, and drug companies. They are so numerous and powerful that their flunkies in Washington goes right along with everything. My MotherInLaw had a day surgery (did not stay in the hospital ONE night) and the hospital bill alone was $27,000. There is no way they are not ripping us off. Wall Street is the same way. Go, Granny! and all the other protesters. We are all tired of the government DRAIN on our taxes.

I suspect you know the difference between someone crossing a 2000 mile long border, most of it rural backcountry and disrupting the downtown of a major city. These protestors could likely hold up their signs somewhere along the border in rural Arizona and not disturb anyone, and likely have no police presence.

So, you are infavor of police harassment of US citizens as long as they are keeping you from work but, millions of illegals pouring into our country taking lower middle class jobs is out of sight and out of mind?

I think alot of people just can't see any farther than their own position.

I would prefer neither...close the borders and let them protest as long as the don't intentionally disrupt traffic or break laws.

livinginthewoods, bullseye.

Peter, I think you've missed my point. Not happy about either situation, just sick about the "government" (controlled by big business) turning a blind eye to many lawbreakers and come down hard on others. The law is the law.

Neo-Hippies wasting time.

May 23, 1780

"We in these regiments are like so many fish...

Hardly any mouth is given to contain a tongue,

but most have teeth as Congress shall soon learn."

Sergeant Joseph Martin

of the Connecticut Line,

Continental Army of the United States.

[Just before the mutiny at Basking Ridge and Jockey Hollow, New Jersey in which he took part].

From: "A NEW AGE NOW BEGINS" by Page Smith.

In all of world history not a single country has ever prospered without a growing population base, not even one.

Pattie, I am both a Nurse and a Deputy. I have a retirement with a Deputy status but not as a Nurse. Do you really believe that the Hospitals are Republican? That more money spent on Health Care will equal more pay to Nurses? Man do you need a dose of reality....

Yup too bad Governor Brown's budget doesn't include an economic growth package like I mentioned before.

Curiously though, i wonder wether he saw any of the same County level budgets draining the City of Oakland and wether he see's the same thing in the State budget at the County levels....with the cities in those counties. you know the one's, yea the Supervisors that vote themselves pay increases every year.

SS has only modest financial solvency problems, due to demographics and not politics. People are living longer and population growth has slowed. That means we need to make some modifications similar to those bipartisan changes made in the early 1980s. That will keep the SS system self-funded.

"SS has only modest financial solvency problems"

Yo, Peter 17....did you just fall off the turnip truck?

No, he is right. Alot of people are just gonna have to come to terms with the fact that taxes are going to have to go up and you can't get blood from a turnip so poor folks are not going to be the ones paying for it. I know you don't like to hear of a precious cent of your money going to people you don't like but, that is part of life in a society. You have reaped the benefits, now you are going to pitch in and help those that didn't.

I would say the biggest problem with SS is that those that make the most don't pay their share. The unfortunate truth is that those that can afford to fund it will never need it and those that are going to need it cannot afford to put in what they are going to have to take out. That means, the rich will have to start paying even though they cannot collect.

If that opinion make me a socialist, so be it, I'm a socialist.

May 23, 1780

"We in these regiments are like so many fish...

Hardly any mouth is given to contain a tongue,

but most have teeth as Congress shall soon learn."

Sergeant Joseph Martin

of the Connecticut Line,

Continental Army of the United States.

[Just before the mutiny at Basking Ridge and Jockey Hollow, New Jersey in which he took part].

From: "A NEW AGE NOW BEGINS" by Page Smith.

If they want to fix Social Security, getting rid of the income cap would be a good start.

Yes, and they all want to be able to retire with a big pension at age 53 like they do in Greece.

terrorists... criminals...

JParis,

Are you kidding??? WOW, you sound like someone who forgot to take their meds this morning.

Glad to see unions are paying to bus people in. You are all worthless sacks of crap. If NATO wouldn't have been around you wouldn't have a free Europe. OH hold on they wouldn't care because they would have become communist's. My bad. Between these news reporters, Union's and the protesters I'm not sure who sucks more.

Jparis. Population control would be you - long walk short bridge.

I have you marked as an author to view whenever you post......I was just wondering......does the MD stand for advanced schooling or the state where the convenience clerks are too afraid to do their jobs without a metal grating around their cash register station?

titansidewinder,

You sold your house for twice what you paid for it two years earlier, to people who couldn't even understand the contract and couldn't possibly afford it, and you are accusing everyone else around you for the problems we are having???? You are the problem here. Wake up.

I rest my case.

@KIM YOU...ARE NUTS!

fagala...hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah...you're funny!!!

Protests did not get us out of Viet Nam. Short of invading N. Viet Nam, which was never an option, there was no way to continue proping up the government of S. Viet Nam. Any ability of N. Viet Nam to extend the conflict to other nearby countries, with the support of China and/or Russia, had been checked. We had accomplished the primary mission of preventing Russia and China from extending their influence over the rest of SE Asia. This war was always a part of the Cold War struggle and larger issues than one small country.

Viet Nam was about profits. That's all it was about.