JACKSON, Miss. -- Officials say a prison for illegal immigrants in Mississippi was on lockdown after a riot that began on Sunday left one guard dead and at least 19 people injured.
All inmates were secured in their housing units by 2:45 a.m. Monday, nearly 12 hours after the disturbance began at the Adams County Correctional Center in southwest Mississippi, Mike Machak, a prison spokesman, said in a statement, according to WDSU-TV, an NBC News affiliate in New Orleans.
Officials haven't released the identity of the slain guard.
Machak said 16 other employees were treated and released from a hospital for various injuries. Three inmates were injured.
The 2,567-bed prison near Natchez houses adult male illegal immigrants, most of whom re-entered the U.S. after being deported, Emilee Beach, a prison spokeswoman, told The Associated Press. The facility is owned and operated by Nashville-based Corrections Corp. of America, WDSU-TV reported, which houses about 75,000 offenders and detainees in more than 60 facilities nationwide.
Federal Bureau of Prisons spokesman Chris Burke said the facility holds low-security inmates.
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Sunday's riot is not the first time CCA prisons have had disturbances.
In 2004, inmates at another CCA prison in Mississippi, the Tallahatchie County Correctional Facility, set fire to mattresses, clothing and a portable toilet. No injuries were reported. The company announced after that disturbance that it would add about 25 guards at the Tallahatchie County facility.
In Idaho, the high level of violence at a CCA-run prison has prompted federal lawsuits, public scrutiny and increased state oversight. In 2010, Vermont inmates being held at a CCA prison in Tennessee were subdued with chemical grenades after refusing to return to their cells.
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Do we bill the Countries where these men come from for the upkeep of this prison?
We should! If not, put them on a plane and send them back the the countries they came from.
I think that is the problem, these men keep coming to the States after being deported already. So if their Country doesn't respect our Sovreignty enough by confining these men to keep them from coming back to the States, then we should bill them for having to do it ourselves.
Gee, not making too many assumptions are you? We haven't even heard a word from the inmates. Hope you don't end up unjustly incarcerated, or that if you do, someone gives a toss.
Leave it to MS to have a "segregated" prison for illegals. But in CA they are all illegal and are mixed with everyone so it might make sense in the land of cotton. I think the real problem and tension happened when the guards kept wearing their weekend Bedsheets with Holes in them to work...........
What assumptions would that be NC open heart...that they are illegal or that most of them have already been deported once? Did you even read the article? I don't even have a clue what your last sentence has to do with funding for a prison full for illegal immigrants.
Seven, CCA has prisons all over that primarily house illegal immigrants, it's not just a Mississippi thing. Try not to look so prejudiced next time and do a little looking into it before you comment.
The question everyone should be asking is not about the illegals and where they are housed but why are we paying for these private companies to house any inmates...that money comes from our taxes..and this is how it works...in a state or federal facility the commissioner makes about 130,000 with CO's with ot and those without come out on an average of about 50,000 a year..in these private prisons the dude that runs the company or a number of facilities pulls close to 4 times as much as the state or federal commissioner and the COs get about 35,000 a year...Also these private facilities are grossly understaffed(if they were staffed at appropriate levels they would not be adding 25 COs to the mix...they would have the people to do OT or get mandated...Another bull@!$%# excuse to give our money to the few and have the workers work in horrible and unsafe working conditions..
Mskat, CA may have seperate dorms for illegals but most all are illegal and mixed in the general population. I am not prejudiced just realistic. A bunch of MS redneck prison guards in charge of a bunch of illegal Mexicans, WTF do you think is gonna happen. I can't stand people who beat around the bush and live in a prima donna fantasy land..........It may be time for tea dear.
That's A GOOD IDEA. Bill those countries that don't have money which is why those illegal immigrants came here.
Please, let's keep the solutions to ones that use basic arithmetic.
Another murdered American, brought to by illegal scum
no we don't bill them we give money so they can come back
They don't come here because their Countries "have no money". Their Governments are corrupt and even if they don't supply the US with money to pay for their citizens who occupy our prisons at our expense, we most likely provide them with some form of aid. So...let's not anymore.
Rather than put them in prisons, they should be entitled to forced hard labor building a wall, not a fence, but a wall on our southern border. Keep them in chain gangs so they cannot just run over the border and come back later that day. But put them to work instead of just paying for room and board for them.
There's the problem. Privatized prisons for profit. Poorly run, overcrowded to maximize profits, no desire to rehabilitate.
Ever wonder why we have more incarcerated citizens than any other developed nation?
read the article, we have already sent them back at least once.
Tombones, my son-in-law works at a state run prison and 15 years ago the taxpayers spent $36,000 per year on each prisoner. More than twice the amount spent on special needs children.
You do understand these are illegals and don't particularly give a flip about your weekend bed sheet fetish?
Should make our prisons like a Thai prison. Don't get very many people coming for a second time to those hellholes. The stories I have read about them make you cringe.
tombones how in the hell do you rehabilitate an illegal immigrant? They just need to send them deeeeepp into the countries they came from to at least slow reentry. and within thirty days of "incarceration" to boot.
I cannot imagine enduring the conditions under which these guys are being held, cramped, filthy, hot. This is Mississippi where it's 83 degrees and 58% humidity. That translates to pure misery.
NC open heart, does it hurt a lot in your head or are you nimb already?
The hole situation is @!$%#ed up we need to find a better way to handle illegals that repetidly come to america maybe we could just send them all to new guinea
THIS IS JUSTICE! good work! i have no respect for racist. none. the way these hispanics are treated is disgisting. you racist trolls laugh now, is your guard dead funny? justice for the 14 year old mexican killed on the border. i hope hispanics take a stand down south and do something about this. this is the same state known for its racism agaisnt blacks in the 60s. im not black or latino but being from jersey were all cool with each other and freinds. i am 100% agaisnt racism. the racism and violence down south is unreal right now.
Seven2Seven.....you're an idiot.....I think you have been watching "Cool hand Luke" or Brother where art thou" to many times. Apparently, you know nothing about the south. Your as big a racist as the KKK or any other hate group. Get a clue. And please don't waste our time with your jibberish, unless you have truly something intelligent to say.
A look at the Presidential memos of Eisenhower and Nixon and their staff show the contempt they had for Mexico. The word "wetback" was used frequently in those memos.
Nixon said: "I felt safer in China than anywhere in Latin America." In 1952, Latinos attacked Nixon's motorcade in Venezuela and Eiserhower called up the Marines. Too bad he didn't follow through with a war.
tombones...you nailed it man. And floyd..your not even close. The failed policies of prison and the outright theft within the system is the problem...ie the people at the top of the chain gang. The prisoners in no way shape or form use 36 grand. Ignorance is bliss huh. Its all political. Problem is at the top people. My neighbor is a psycholgist for the state prison and they pay her $80 fricken grand for nothing. And their are probably 25 of them. Can u say waste of tax dollars. While guards get paid chump change for dealing with these criminals. As for the article....dont even waste any more of our tax dollars on these guys sending them back because they'll just come back again, and again. I like the idea of having these guys build that wall. So we dont have to pay for it. Otherwise dont do it.
These are repeat offender, violent illegal aliens and we should not be supporting, feeding, or clothing them. Deport them once and if they return to commit more crimes, shoot them!
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No! Justice is taking these Mexicans to Poland and showing them Auschwitz. Not one single Mexican soldier fought against Nazi Germany during WW2. That means Mexico HELPED Nazi Germany!
Should Mexico bill the United States for the gun violence within its borders, exported by American gun manufacturers?
Do you know what our buddies, the Mexican authorities, do to the Mexicans that are deported to Mexico?
NOTHING!
I hear Smith & Wesson stock is climbing. They have so many orders, they can't make guns fast enough!
GOD BLESS AMERICAN MANUFACTURING!
Intrepid, you are wrong about Mexico and WW2. Please check your facts. And, what does that have to do with a prison riot? You sound alot like Fox news, just say stuff, the truth or relevance be damned.
what part of ILLEGAL don't people understand?we need to send these ILLEGALS back and then secure our borders.shandril stop your anti 2nd amendment B.S. i will not surrender my rights just because of those animals in mexico.little known fact most of these weapons that are arming the drug gangs come from good ol' HUGO CHAVEZ AND COMPANY!!!!and they are the real thing not what we can buy here so stfu about thngs you have no idea wtf you are talking about.
Intrepid, what should Mexico do with them? It's not illegal to leave Mexico. Str8, that is a "little known" FACTFROMASS that you posted.
Sure Shandril, and we'll send them an equally large bill for all the drug violence we have in the states imported through their drug channels. Sound about right? Unfortunately, that still doesn't put us on equal footing because we are paying to house, feed, and care for their criminals.
Also Intrepid, Mexico declared war on Germany and the rest of the Axis powers on 22 May 1942 and sent troops to fight Germany.
They aren't Mexico's criminals, they committed a crime in the U.S.
Umm why are my tax dollars going for this. Please take my tax money and use it to send some of these people back home. Thank you.
Shoot their asses and be done with it. Don't sneak into this country and expect to be coddled like some innocent baby.
I think Shandril means the current D.O.J. and there fabulous brainchild "Fast and Furious". Boy did that backfire, didn't it?!
If you ever want to view the ones who need to be re-trained....visit your nearest correctional facility.....at shift change
Shandril must mean to blame the D.O.J. for their brainchild "Fast and Furious". What a massive backfire on their part!!!
Headshaker, this is NOT a public prison. The correct question is whether CCA should charge other countries for locking their people up. Your selective reading of the article evidences an extreme ignorance to the reality of for-profit prisons. They cost us taxpayers a lot of money. Read the article before commenting, CCA prisons have had a horrible track record. It's what happens when you put profits before safety. Please think logically before commenting.
raddave have you ever heard of the offer that germany made to mexico?you know ,i believe thry were called the zimmerman papers? they offered mexico they would get back the southwest u.s.if they declared war on the u.s.?can you name one engagement the mexicans fought in?i am sort of a military history buff and would like to know. back to the original subject these people are a drain on our economy the money we spend on these idiots could be spent on our own people like our vets that will REALLY NEED IT. i'am personnally tired of these animals(please don't say they are not) they should be dealt with severely and immediately stop wasting time and money on them!!!realist said a mouthful
I agree with realist. If your here illegally and you break the laws further than what you already have. The only thing you deserve from America is a bullet to the back of the head. Smith and Wesson made in America Bitch! Not like their country would miss them.
we should go to war and stop the illegal invasion...we as a people are letting corporate america give away every thing we had that made this country worth fighting for...failure by the the politicians to protect our borders is a act of treason...time for new politicians...
To Plain Bob: Unfortunately I believe that if this country falls it will fall do to our politicians playing the popularity game. The greatest enemies always come from within.
Yes, HEADSHAKER I do agree no one should cause another country so much trouble ( northern EU like here, big problem)---and we from the rest of the globe should also send all the USA citizens home from especially EU, but also the millions of USA people living in cheap countries in South America and Asia, spending their SS, and billions outside the USA--Although the regular people SS does not make it in northern EU.
A total of appx 32 million US Citizens! (Italy alone is about 2 million)
Please send them home as well! I agree entirely, but I can see your comments are very one sided!
And please remember that people like me actually are asked to come here, although if from Northern EU this is quite a step down from that part of the world, including freedom!--But due to the size here of scientific research some of us come anyway--(used to, I should say)
OK start grunting-- but get educated will you!
the rich get richer the poor get poorer and the jails keep filling up ... when Cuba had a problem they put their prisoners on ships and sent them to Florida .... we could do the same .BUT the private prisons (like this one) are prisons for profit .. the republicans in congress will not interfere with these private prisons makeing money ... there will be no boat back to their home country """ thats a fact """
see Coming Soon from Obama: Illegal Alien Detention Centers with Continental Breakfasts).
For the you-can’t-make-this-up file: the Obamanistas are turning illegal alien jails into resorts in part to make up for not passing an all-inclusive amnesty during the President’s first year.
OBAMA REFORM OF ILLEGAL ALIEN PRISONS: LOW STANDARD REQUIRED BY FEDS IN SEVERAL STATES.
2010
"Along with relaxed security, the illegal alien detainees will have bingo games, free phones, internet access, art and dance classes, and hanging plants to cheer them up."
The 28 changes identified in the e-mail range from the superficial to the substantive. In addition to “softening the look of the facility” with hanging plants and offering fresh carrot sticks, ICE will allow for the “free movement” of low-risk detainees, expand visiting hours and provide unmonitored phone lines.
ICE officials said the changes are part of broader efforts to make the immigration detention system less penal and more humane.
But the plans are prompting protests by ICE’s union leaders, who say they will jeopardize the safety of agents, guards and detainees and increase the bottom line for taxpayers. Tre Rebstock, president for Local 3332, the ICE union in Houston, likened the changes to creating “an all-inclusive resort” for immigration detainees.
“Our biggest concern is that someone is going to get hurt,” he said, taking particular issue with plans to relax restrictions on the movement of low-risk detainees and efforts to reduce and eliminate pat-down searches.
Maybe if we deport them to the center of the Gulf of Mexico and drop them off they won't return again? Just a thought.
I like the idea of putting them all to work, humanely of course. Let's farm them out to farmers so they can pick crops, all security paid for by the hiring person. Put them to work building things like desks and chairs for schools, or whatever. Their just sitting around waiting to be deported gives idle hands too much time to cause mischief. Turn these prisons into a self sustaining institution that don't cost the tax payers a dime. If they create successful enterprises just relax security at the border and we can get some more workers. Each of these prisons need their own working farms, chickens for eggs and food, hogs and cattle, fresh produce. Sell over production at the market. A lot can be done other than shooting them.
The facility is owned and operated by Nashville-based Corrections Corp. of America
Coming to the majority of corrections centers near you. Blame the illegals all you want. It wont change it. The only way to stem the tide is to change our current immigration policies. And change Nafta. And go after employers. Take away the demand and the supply falls. It is the same with the drug problems here. Stop the demand side and the cartels lose power. Meaning stop American citizens from using it. Or legalize it and tax it. And the amount of illegals coming over is actually lower today than last year even. The trend is reversing on our southern border.
As for the people saying NO Mexicans fought in WWII I call BS I have family that are American Citizens. Have been since the American Mexican War. Many were and some still are Service Members. So please shut up and stop trying to change our history.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Mexican+Americans+in+WWII&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=xyb&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=R726T-eNNqGkiQLCmMnmCQ&ved=0CGsQsAQ&biw=1218&bih=605
I am Native American And Mexican American. With my family being here in California since before it was a State. We should be enforcing immigration on all levels. With all countries and peoples. Hell if you all want to close the southern border (MAYBE the Northern one should be monitored better as well)
Call in the guards from Attica, this could be stopped in two hours.
Educated? I think a few of you need the education. I have enough education under my belt to know that CCA incorporates federal funds to run their prisons. The federal and local Governments have okayed CCA to operate the way it does which still falls under the fault of our Government to allow an agency like CCA to imprison illegal immigrants at taxpayer's expense. I believe that our Government does need to tighten our border security and I equally find fault with CCA for it's poor practices. As far as Northern Italy or any other Country that has US citizens living there...big deal.? Do they have passports? Are they there legally? If they're not, then it's that Countries responsibility to kick them out but using my logic if you want to charge the US for the amount of money it takes to deport them then by all means do so. The same logic applies to what I am saying here. These Countries should have to pay for the upkeep of their Citizens regardless of where they reside unless those Citizens are here temporarily, have a green card, VISA, or have dual citizenship with the Country where they are currently housed. We are not in an Economical environment where we can take on the financial burdens and upkeep of non-contributing members of our society who do not have a right to be in our Country. It's a slap to those individuals who are here legally and/or who went through the proper channels to do so.
Hilarious, I get collapsed for suggesting that in the case of a prison riot, the story is lacking because it never presents the case of inmates. There is no attempt to explain why they rioted. I guess I was collapsed for implying that all the denigration going on against the inmates might be premature. But no one here much cares about that it seems. Sorry, I thought they were people too. Now I see I'm apparently wrong about that. Mea culpa.
I would be careful using that word "de-nigration", that might be a hate crime.
I committed a hate crime once. I was forced by a controlling man to light fire to and thus kill a copperhead snake that he terrorized me with. There was no other driver than hate in the whole thing, top to bottom. It was a hate crime against God and Nature. Thankfully, God is merciful and the state thought that it was perfectly ok! However, I am certain that if I had not regretted and made amends for my ways God would have rendered judgment in the typical Darwinian way by now...... Particularly as a woman in a man's world, our lives are more tenuous in general. I'm not saying these people didn't ALL end up in jail from similar natural outcomes, but how can I tell from the info presented? The privatization of resources and the socialization of debt we have witnessed, should bring the whole thing under greater scrutiny before the onslaught of judgment since it does involve outsourced government responsibilities.
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raddave hate to @!$%#ing tell you something but its true hugo not only took delivery of 500,000 russian assault weapons (that being weapons capable of firing semi and full automatic, yes i know the difference i am a marine)but has constructed his own factory to produce them locally now why would he want to do that?.he his exporting them all over south and central america.these weapons are capable of firing full auto the ones we get look like them but are not capable of that.so next time you want to talk about weapons and the spread of socialism/communism please don't come at me with bull@!$%# sarah brady talking points.i know this is off point but i just hate STUPIDITY
These are illegals that we have already deported, yet they are here being supported by us. Why? Maybe we should consider dropping them off in a war zone in the Middle East, or Sudan or China and let them find their way back from parts unknown.
We really need to make their stay so uncomfortable that they don't want to stay or come back. If they are illegals they shouldn't have the same rights as US citizens.
Wheels460, you have officially gone off the tracks. Killing people who are inconvenient to you? Disgusting.
Disgusting? Maybe.....Effective? Hell Yes!
Wheels...that was bad...on many levels...if you can't feel ashamed...at least feel embarrassed...
We need a US prison for illegals, only built in Afganistan. Cut costs drastically by not building walls or fences. They are free to escape. Advertise in Mexico in every paper that this is where captured, documented illegals will be sent. Problem solved.
seriously? You are talking about using the nazi playbook to deal with illegal immigrants? They may not be american citizens but they are human beings and have rights.
Good plan
Cheap border patrol idea #1
We should take all the unwanted dogs from Humane centers and release them all around the border. Give them very little food and lots of water. They will look for food.
Ha Ha....good times for all
Illegals! Ya, we need sympathetic tears for them, like we need a hole in the head. EVERY ONE of them should be held for murder of that guard.
Most come back. Why? Because we have the socialist, liberal Democratic's like OBAMA who need their illegal votes come election.
99.9% of the illegals are criminals, and giving blanket citizenship is the biggest mistake our Congress could do! The other 1% that have to go with the criminals, to dam*d bad.
MY grandparents had to do it the legal way, being Mexican does give them a privilege to become CitizenOBAMA like Obama's family that is here illegal, and drawing S.S. that they NEVER paid one cent into.
Try a decaffeinated coffee, Captain Delusional.
Steven, try learning how to use the remote control on your TV.
The ONLY president who gave the illegals amnesty was a paid actor named Ronnie "star wars" Reagan so blaming Obama when a Wing-Nut republican gave over 3.5 million illegals amnesty is ludicrous.
Steven: There have been more deportations under this president than both the Bushes combined.
Yes, deportations are up under President Obama. Conservatives want illegals to be here because they provide something conservatives love - extremely cheap labor. That's the reason Reagan and the Bushes didn't do much about illegal immigrants. The current President has deported more illegal immigrants than any other President in 40 years. But neocon trolls claim that's not enough, proudly displaying their ignorance instead of being ashamed of it.
If this truly IS a prison only for illegals, then the prison should be alot more basic than other prisons (actually, all prisons should be this way, but that's another topic). 1 person to a 6 x 8 soundproofed cell, mat on the floor, bucket for personal business, soup, water, & bread twice per day every single day, and absolutely no time outside of the cell except for maybe once twice per week shower. If prisons were made to be where nobody wants to go to them, maybe alot of this will stop. Most of them are just hotels with all the benefits at the taxpayers expense.
i take it you have never spent a night in jail? wait let me guess dont do the crime if you cant do the time. our prison system is a joke. we lock them up for long periods of time with nothing to do but sit in a cell and you wonder how they come out worse then when they went in.
Gee, m. Have you really spent a lot of time in prisons? Your post makes a pretty lame claim - that prisons are like hotels. How many prisons have you lived in to know so much?
First, just because you get convicted of a crime does not mean you are guilty. It is possible that about 25% of current inmates don't belong there. Do you really think we should treat innocent people that cruelly?
Secondly, the regimen you specify would be fatal to many. How would diabetics fare under your strict dietary constraints? How would someone with congestive heart failure NOT die because of your bedding requirements? There are also people with chronic skin conditions that need to shower every day.
Do you really want to kill people whose only crime was marijuana possession? Do you really want to kill people that haven't been sentenced to death, or people who were unjustly convicted?
Your reasoning is so warped, it makes me sick. No, I have never gone to jail or prison - I don't do things that would cause me to go to prison - I don't hang around people who would cause me to go to prison. And yes, if somebody were convicted of having marijuana, then they SHOULD be in prison - it is illegal to have pot - I don't use pot and I don't hang around anybody that does: BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL. And yes, they should have nothing to do but sit around and THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY DID - this is the whole point of prison, to protect the rest of the world and give them time to reflect on what they did - OK, I'll agree to giving each and every one of them reading glasses if needed and a Bible opened to the 10 commandments. I guess you think they should have a tv, internet connections, and cell phones - well, why put them in prison in the first place if you are going to do this. Why waste my tax dollars if they are going to be no better off coming out than they were going in. Obviously what we are doing is NOT working, so go the other direction and try something different for a change. And I'm not that heartless in that if somebody has a medical condition, it should be treated fairly, but these people in prison get better medical care than most of the American public does. These illegal people are those that have REPEATEDLY committed the crime and they should NOT be treated as well as a first time offender or an American citizen for that matter. I do think there should be levels in prisons and repeat offenders should be treated in much harsher ways. Deporting them only encourages the same behavior - it's a waste of time and lots of money. And in case you didn't read this article, these people MURDERED a guard. They are alot more criminal than just entering the country illegally.....
"99.9% of the illegals are criminals"
Correction...100% of the illegals are criminals....it's that whole "illegal" before the alien that makes it so.
People can say illegals are good people...maybe so...but they're still criminals and are entitled to no more rights than a rapist or child molester. Same way people are incarcerated for smoking a joint. May not be right, but it is the state of our nation...why we give exemptions to people because they're minorities is nothing more the government sponsored racism.
Of course deportations are up under the current administration, how else do you expect O-dumbos supporters to get back home after they vote for him...
Agree
Moderate Anarchist....
everyone in the united states is a criminal. Ever speed? Ever not come to a complete stop at a stop sign. Ever jay walk? Ever recieved even a penny too much change and not notify the cashier? Ever forgot something on the bottom of the shopping cart? Ever copy a movie? Ever download a song you didnt pay for?
Yes sir. You are just as much a criminal too. Don't ever think that you arent. You just break different laws. And you do it ALMOST every day. Maybe you are saying that YOU wouldn't mind being treated like a rapist, but I sure dont want to be treated like that.
The comment made by someone about the inmates being jailed without committing a crime..............they were in our country illegally at least twice! ILLEGAL means a crime was committed! But why do we have to spend $30,000 or so a year on supporting each one, more on welfare for their families, and risk our citizens's lives keeping them in prison!? Let's use the death penalty for anyone here a second time! Racism has nothing to do with it! Illegal immigrants from anywhere should be subject to the same thing!
And I'm not really kidding about this! They're helping Obama ruin our country.
Moderate, being in the country illegally is not a crime, it is a civil code violation. They are NOT criminals.
Definition of a drug is any substance that alters how the mind and body function or operate. If marijauna is considered illegal on the basis it's a drug, then why are we allowed to buy cigerattes and beer. I think it is a total hipocracy to be able to drink, but not to smoke. I can't think of one violent crime, or person killed from somebody who smoked "pot". If your not going to legalize marijuana then make alcohol illegal too.
To the posters who said the prisons are such a harsh place to be, you are suffering from craneial rectal inversion. I live right behind a prison, so close that I can tell what color the inmates hair is. And I can't say what their bed looks like but I can tell you that they play ball or work out a good portion of the day. They have baseball teams & basketball teams. At night I can hear them cheering when the Fl gators are playing, so they must be Gator fans. 2times a year they have a concert complete with an MC and live band. On a portion of the prison grounds they have barns and paddocks for the race horses that are retired there, the inmates care for the horses and ride them. And when the guards call them in at night after a day of ball games, I can clearly hear them say all inmates MUST return to their DORMS. The funny thing is what bothers me most about the prison being so close to my back pasture, is the loud mouth guards, everytime they make an announcement they scream it over the loud speaker. So my point is at least some prisons are not so bad.
raddave are youu serious?being here illegally is not a crime?then if they were not here we would not have a prison for them. they would be in a mexican prison or wherever they are from!!! its about time the u.s. mans up and secure our borders and get these vermin the hell out,with the full understanding we won't be as kind the next time they come here ILLEGALLY and commit crimes!! this whole thing could be avoided if the dems weren't so hard up for a new underclass to champion and the repubs weren't trying to ge a cheap labor force.no our goverment is not looking out for ,u.s. citizens best interests only or we would not be having this discussion or prisons for ILLEGAL @!$%#ING ALIENS
its a good thing stupid people are not locked up .. republicans would never get a vote
m again, making a worthless claim
As I said before, just because you're convicted doesn't mean you're guilty. Lots of innocent people are imprisoned. And don't think for a minute that it can't happen to you. It happens every single day in this country.
Talk about warped reasoning ...
Let's get this straight...The people that are housed and fed at this facility are illegal immigrants who were deported and then snuck back in to the US?? They are being housed and fed 3 meals a day on the taxpayers dime and they are upset because they are incarcerated correct?
Well let's give them the freedom they so desire. Shackle them up, put them on the bus and send them home. See ya later Mr. Illegal....Have a nice life
The illegals just come back again....there is no true punishment and many of them are violent illegals.
If you deport their WHOLE family every time they commit a crime, you will see them calm down. But Obama won't deport hardluy any of them. He changed the accounting methods to make it look like more are being deported, but they aren't.
Obama cant change the way someone counts. It starts with 1 and goes to 2 and then 3.....
Its ICE reporting the numbers not Obama. Its State law enforcement thats reporting the numbers. not Obama. Its Mexican law enforcement thats reporting the numbers, not Obama.
I agree, load them and their entire family up and send the whole pack of them back to Mexico...post a guards at any point they may come back into the US and if they try coming back....pop a cap in them. They are just like another pest that will take over if left untreated...roaches, fleas, bed bugs, etc.
My husband and I went out to dinner last night; while we were eating this young Mexican couple came in - they looked maybe in their early twenties. They had a (maybe 2 year old - 2 1/2 year old) little boy with them, one in an infant carrier and SHE WAS PREGNANT AGAIN!!!! I told my husband that they must have been banging away at it while she was in the hospital having the 2nd child. This kind of crap is what burns my butt! I have a 3 year old grandson and a 7 week old grandson and both of my kids work hard to provide for their family (as does all of my family) and then to see the EBT cards being swiped at the grocery store by pregnant Mexican women that can't speak English and are hauling a grocery cart full of food I can't afford plus snotty nosed kids hanging everywhere. My momma and daddy are living on a limited income after working ALL of their lives and the have to put up with THIS???? It literally makes my blood boil.
Why does the US have a prison for illegal immigrants? <shaking head>
because this is a prison for detaining until they have completed the deportation and immigration court process. Where do you suggest we hold them until the deportation process is completed? Let them stay at home, in a hotel, or in a local jail?
How about holding them on the bus while it's heading for the border?
The problem is that you have people seeking asylum. You have criminals that we are looking for. You have people that are actually allowed to be here even if it is a very small minority of the numbers. There is such a thing as due process in this country and that extends to anyone from any country that is accused of a crime. The constitution is free for download and viewing
Their crime is being here illegally - I don't think the constitution was written to cover that.
Every person gets due process? Are you really sure you want to publish your ignorance that way? Read the 14th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States....Due Process is ONLY for US citizens....unless you meant read Mexico's Constitution for due process...Oh that's right, they don't have one, they just shoot you...lol.
For-profit prisons. Enough said
As a former CCA employee (corrections officer and retired military), I can tell you that prisons run by the lowest bidder are an accident waiting to happen. I have seen first-hand the quality of personnel and the extent of services and management. The number one goal of private prisons is to make as much profit as possible, which means doing the absolute minimum possible to acheive that goal. Taking shortcuts, lack of professional training, and low levels of supervision are the norm from what I have seen.
This article has nothing to do with the immigration problem, but it has everything to do with how to properly control a prison population so that these things don't happen. CCA--and other similar organizations do not have the best record for keeping control of or properly caring for inmates.
When everything always comes down to "What will it cost?" instead of "What is required?" there's going to be problems.
Don't send them back to their countries. Send them to a deserted island!
Only in America can illegals muder our citzens because we are giving them free room and board and medical care and they don't like the menu!
charge them all for the death of the guard,then hang them,enough of these mexs,cut the left foot off of any that come across ,i bet they dont come back,i mean it cut their foot off
I say put the inmates in a yard together & let them fight it out w/o interference. The last man standing gets his own room.
This problem is because our federal government will not enforce immigration laws and states are having to deal with the flood of immigrants that can apparently just walk across the border anytime the feel.
GET THE FACTS!! Illegal crossing are down to almost zero. What an idiot. Obama has done MORE THAN ALL presidents combined in closing borders and deportation. Stop watching faux
Well, the reason illegal crossing is almost zero is because THEY ARE ALL FRIGGIN' OVER HERE NOW.
DOWN TO ALMOST ZERO? Where in the hell do you get your info? If deportation is up that means the border hopping is up. If illegal crossing is down to ZERO who are we deporting?
Sitting smugly and safe in your little enclave, you say "prison is bad for these poor immigrants". Hey, take one in to your home. We'll let you pick from drug dealers, rapists, murderers, robbers and other innocent immigrants.
The guards in the tower should have opened up on them after all prison personel were safe, annihilate every one of the illegals. Pretty soon it gets back to their homeland that Jorge was cut in half by a 50 cal and golly gee we now have a deterrent to keep the field rats at bay.
Private companies running prisons... soon to be followed by private companies (Xe anyone?) enforcing the law. Demonizing public "union thugs" is a slow play tactic designed to eventually move our taxes to political friends in industry.
These ILLEGAL aliens were deported once and returned. Their 2nd deportation should be "walking the plank" from the rear of an aircraft carrier, in the middle of the ocean.
In or out of jail, ILLEGAL aliens are criminals.
This is what Gov Brewer wants in AZ to privatize prisons so she can feel them up with illegals, and charge the state big bucks to house them, so her and her cronies can make some moola!
Actually she is tired of her state being subjected to violence and paying millions to care for invaders.
Liar Liar pants on fire, Gov. Brewer most certainly doesn't want to do this, she wants their illegal asses sent back where they came from.. You must get your talking points from the libturd "Fiesty Redhead"
I can't believe anyone voted for that AZ drunk hoe Jan Brewar. It is amazing she can remember what she did the day before after reoccuring drunk binges........She is a walking Blackout.
and this from one of Obamas visual colon examiners.
And she was giving the contact to private prisons to her co hort that was her friend. She doesn't give a rip about AZ or her citizens. She is a flat out bigoted bitch!
Hell yeah, down with the Prison Industrial Complex! @!$%# prison guards, @!$%# the border patrol, and @!$%# the DEA!
It is not about racism it is about closing our borders to illegal aliens. If it were about racism we would shipping all the other ethnic groups out.
Thats nothing but a lie Magyart!
Nibor, and from a mental midget who knows who people voted for, try again............
In a for-profit prison system all the incentives are wrong. The company is paid on a per person basis so the incentives are to hold as many as possible for as long as possible while keeping costs low. Costs are minimized by overcrowding the facilities, and by using low-pay poorly trained guards and poor quality food. The resulting disturbances, fights, and riots lead to extended sentences for the inmates, which means still more income for the operating company.
The only reason to be holding these immigrants instead of deporting them again, is so politicians and their friends can make big money by imprisoning them.
Sounds like the intelligence level that voted for Obama. You actually think the prisons decide how long an inmate serves?
Do YOU actually believe PRESIDENT Obama does? How ridiculous!
You damn right they decide how long a prisoner is held. I am not talking about the illeagals. I'm talking about US citizens that studies suggest at least 15% were wrongly convicted. It is a BUSINESS. What would YOU do if you owned this BUSINESS. Wardens are on the parole board. If I parole the guy, he's out and means less money for my COMPANY. Let me see, If there is a disturbance the prisoner is sentenced to a longer stay, Longer stay is more money for my COMPANY. What incentive is there for rehabilitation? Hmm if we rehabilitate this guy gets out and contributes to society, if we don't teach him a skill and he can't get a job because he's an x-cons, he comes back here and I get more money. Hmm How can I make more money? I got it!! political contributions to keep prisons private run.
Here is what is wrong with this situation, and I am speaking from experience. Inmates in jails and prisons have it very good! I have heard hundreds of Inmates say that they look forward to getting sentenced, while in jail, because they want to go to prison. Something is definitely wrong when people are not scared or dont mind going to prison. Because of legal issues Inmates are protected under the law. If the citizens only knew how good these Inmates have it, things would definitely start changing. These Inmates decided to riot because the rules and discipline of jails and prisons are so slack. And the word "rehabilitation" is a joke. Maybe 1% gets rehabilitated but the rest definitely not. However, All of the rules and regulations are put in place for that 1%. My prayers go out to the 23 year old officer who was killed and his family. If the prisons and jails had been ran strict, smart and no playing games and or fraternizing then there would be a strong belief that this incident would not have occurred. I am not saying treat the Inmates like dogs but I am saying to have some balls and crack down on this mess and stop letting Inmates run everything. Officers in the jails and prisons run that place and every Inmate in that facility should know that with out any questions. I laugh at all these shows like scared straight and jail because the officers are trying to be hard for that TV but when you get in there its not even like that. I will end with this. I saw this prison in Russia use this tactic. When the Inmate leaves their cell they walk bent over with their head looking at the ground. Their hands are behind their backs raised up in the air. They said the reason for this is because the Inmates will never know what is around them when they are walking to where ever they have to be for that part of the day and it is highly unlikely that they will attack any officer from that position. If they do the officers always see their hands and the officers will have a faster reaction time. Officer safety should be the first priority in this line of work, sadly it is not!
With their first step into the US illegals are committing a crime. Many if not most don't stop there. ID theft, welfare fraud, robbery, burglary, car jacking, the list of their accomplishments goes on and on. Just sending them home with a "don't come back" hasn't worked at all. Maybe a mandatory 5 years in a prison like the one in AZ, tent cities with no radios, no TVs, no AC, no heat, the only meals served are peanut butter and jelly with fruit three times a day. When they are released they should all get a microchip with their ID and felony convictions listed so they are easily identified. When they are sent back to their original country, send that country a bill for the housing and feeding of their countryman while they are here. That country doesn't pay up, they get no foreign aid, no trade, and no entrance into the US by any citizen of that country. That should get the attention of their home country that it would be a wise thing for them to work diligently to prevent illegal entry into the US.
Ohhh, Marty my boy, tut-tut. Your proposal makes too much sense to ever be implemented. Sorry!
Debbie Wasserman Schultz supports private prisons! She supports the building of a CCA detention center in her own backyard in Southwest Ranches FL, against the wishes of the majority of her constituents. This facility will be located in the middle of a bedroom community with thousands of families and over a dozen schools where over 16,000 children attend. The closest homes are less than 1000 feet away. She and Senator Bill Nelson have accepted donations from CCA and signed a letter of endorsement. Imagine the lockdown that would occur with 12 schools within a five mile radius. Thanks for the concern of our children Debbie!
And she'll continue to be reelected, until the children of the illegals vote her out.
Run by privatized prison corporation with a history of riots. Lets privatize the whole damn thing like some want. We'll have our own little social experiment with taxpayer dollars and peoples lives at stake.
Privatized prisons are an extremely dangerous turn in our society. There is always this argument that private business runs more efficiently and at less cost then government run programs, but at what cost, this obsession with dollars and cents makes no sense. They have been proven time and time again to cause corruption in the legal system, judges being "incentivtized" to hand down harser sentences because the longer an inmate is incarcertated the more the private business makes. You need look no furthur than the "Kids for Cash" scandel in 2009 in Pennsylvania to see the danger in this. Here in Arizona where SB 1070 is nothing more than an incentive to fill up the privatized prisons. I also love the notion that the countries these inmates come from should be charged. That's just completely stupid. These individuals didn't break laws in thier own countries just like I'm not breaking a law in the US if I sneak into Canada or Mexico. Why should these countries be charged for this when its not against the law? Idiots.
^Exactly.
To continue on your last point. How exactly do we get these countries to pay up? Are we going to go to war with Mexico and other Central and South American countries? That will fill our coffers and improve international opinion of us.
Lets build a detention center in Nowhere Alaska and fill it with these south of the border illegals. Afew years of freezing with give them second thoughts about crossing the border and if they exscape from up there . Oh well the Grizzlies need to eat. As far as the prison riot goes The officers should have been given permission to open fire and fire at will
Please build a trebuchet at the border, load it up with these guys and 'send them home". I promise they won't re-enter the US after that and they all get to die on Mexican soil.
You might have to build a bigger one to get the Guatemalans home.
In seriousness, the fact that a guard died is a tragedy but why are we housing "low-security" illegal immigrants in US prisons? I would hope they are sending the bill south of the border if they won't send the cretins back.
That's undocumented workers.
These guys just want a better life. lol
I'm sure that is what many want, but why sidestep the proper procedures to do it? Maybe they don't want to wait to do it legally because their decision was spur of the moment. They've already gotten thousands of American jobs sent there via Washington DC and their corporate "outsourcing". Their country has been established much longer than the US, so why is it such a cesspool of vice and violence? Maybe its because the public isn't willing to do anything to change their version of business as usual. Its easier just to walk across the border and get free educaton for their kids, free medical and dental care for their kids, welfare, food stamps, free public housing, etc. And if they get caught they get free transportation back home to visit their friends and families. In the meantime, it seems to be "why work for it if you can steal it", and when they want some free money steal the ID of someone who works and file for their income tax refund Want to joyride? Carjack a car and away we go! Add to that a little bit of driving with no license, no insurance, no idea of what they are doing because they never bothered to learn to speak or read English and pretty soon you'll have a body count of their victims.
The US needs to close the southern border, period. Line up the troops being removed from Afghanistan along the border to shoot to kill any invaders who don't turn and run back to where they came from. If they want to come to the US they can do it the right way or run the risk of be shot on sight.
That's undocumented workers.
These guys just want a better life. lol
We ALL want a better life, bf. The resources of the USA are FINITE, not infinite. America is unable to keep our own people working and living even a decent standard of living. The American middle class is on the endangered species list. No; make that extinct. The borders should have been sealed long ago. As for the detainees being held here at America's expense, here's an idea. Pilot a ship crammed full of illegals, send the boat to a Mexican harbor; dock the ship; have helicopters and jets waiting for the ship's crew to return stateside and see how the Mexican government likes having illegals crammed up their *** for a change!
Bernie I like your idea. Make it a BIG ship and we can add in some of our own murders and rapists to transplant in Mexico just like they have been doing theirs for years. Sail all they way around the gulf and drop em off in southern mexico, at least it will take them longer to get back.
The solution to illegals is death. Cross the border and your dead there is no other deterrent that will work. Why should our nation pay to keep these people. For all you bleeding heart liberals out there that would oppose this the other solution would be for you to take care of them. We simply need to close the borders with what ever means possible.