This should be tried as a Hate Crime.

Amen A Veteran, this looks like text book hate crime to me!

But would you admire them if they attacked a group representing LA RAZA, the Latino Master Race promoter?

It is a hate crime and will be prosecuted as such (should anyway). No matter how horrible a person's or a group's view are, there is no justification of violence. If they incited violence, it would be a different story, but they were having a "peaceful" and private gathering.

What goes around comes around.

Why is it that the lowest common denominator of one group actually has the lack of intelligence to add the word "supremest" after their skin tone...............that's the insult. The KKK should have to use "white inferiorist" on their cards and banners. I know "inferiorist" isn't a word but just works better for the post. Still isn't right for them to be attacked as they were and it seems to fit a hate crime.

Really, a hate crime? Yes, I agree. I do not condone what they did but the "hate crime"
term might be appropriate for many reasons. Here are the white supremacists espousing hatred, bigotry and racism. Period. How many of them did a “hate crime”? What goes around comes around. If you feel hate, bigotry and racism then you sow what you reap.

White supremists have been attacking others with little or no provocation for as far back in history as anyone alive today can remember. Seems people are starting to fight back. Fighting back is a good thing, but the way they did it is just wrong. Violence begets more violence begets more violence. While I understand the impulse, I'm thinking a more constructive outlet of their frustrations would have netted better results. Swinging bats in a crowded restaurant is a good way to hurt an innocent bystander. What if some kid had been there and gotten in the way?

WOW, Tree you cement just what I have been saying. Its not ok at all for racism to exist in our society at this point in time. Unfortunately it does. Yet this does not excuse your comment that " You admire these guys for beating up these people who where eating lunch. Hate is Hate no matter what side of the fence it is coming from.

A hate crime is usually defined by state law as one that involves threats, harassment, or physical harm and is motivated by prejudice against someone's race, color, religion, national origin, ethnicity, sexual orientation or physical or mental disability.

I would think "White Supremist" or "KKK" fall under mental disability.

@ Zkysr and Bany6124:

Two wrongs do not make a right, it only makes it twice as wrong. In my eyes the assailants are Nazis as well, only of a different race.

Remember Dr. King!!!! We must be above that! Defense yes, Attack NO!

Rascism - Smash it!

Wow, will people never learn? NO WHERE in this article is their "white supremacist" confirmed. It is said that the mayor "believed" these were white supremacists and the owner of the cafe said only two had shaved heads. I can't believe how posters on these boards fall for the same media crap time after time. The media stirs up controversy, puts a decided twist on a story to make the victims look like they are at fault, and people fall for it over and over. How easily can you be duped and how many times?

If Dr. King where alive today he would keel over with a Heart Attack to see how far even today we are from his Dream!

Hey Sparkly - read the article:

the 5th annual White Nationalist Economic Summit and Illinois White Nationalist Meet-and-Greet was taking place. The White Nationalists were targeted inside the restaurant and physically attacked

Sparklystar,. Wow thanks for pointing that out. So now if you choose to have the " Mr. Clean Look" your going to get beat up in America for being a skinhead. That is where it all begins. ASSUME> ASS of U and ME.

David even if that is the case. It doesn't make it right what these thugs did. These people could of been innocent bystanders.

Anyone joining the hate crime bandwagon - welcome aboard, it's about time (but can I be creeped out that you came out in support of alleged white supremacists?) . Now you may never, ever complain and whine about hate crime charges involving gays, people of color, or people of different religious views... I agree that this could in fact be a hate crime. We'll wait to see if there's confirmation about what these two groups were representing, if anything. The violence was awful - it must have been terrifying for the staff and other diners! I think this might be the worst news story of the entire NATO conference protests.

David, that does NOT confirm that these people were white supremacists, any more than a hoodie confirmed that Trayvon Martin was a criminal.

Those crazy Antifa hooligans! lol

First they came for the fascists and I said nothing, because I was too busy laughing at the white supremacists getting their butts kicked.

Ha ha.

Really, a hate crime? Yes, I agree. I do not condone what they did but the "hate crime"
term might be appropriate for many reasons. Here are the white supremacists espousing hatred, bigotry and racism. Period. How many of them did a “hate crime”? What goes around comes around. If you feel hate, bigotry and racism then you sow what you reap.

Wouldn't this be an "anti-hate" crime?

lucky that this was in chicago. if this was somewhere where they were okay w/ guns this would have been deadly for both sides. not supporting what either side does but there is a time and a place and this isnt it.

If the group that as attacked were white supremacists, and that is a very big if, then all these idiots have done by attacking them like this is validate their hatred and views towards minorities. Doing to them what you complain about them doing to you is not the answer, it only perpetuates the violence. The attackers have brought themselves down to the same level or lower than those they attacked. They should all be charged with a hate crime. The truth is that there is no proof that any of the people who were attacked were white supremacists and even if they were, it does not justify attacking them while they were sitting there peacefully having a meal. The idiots went in and attacked anyone that they thought was a member of this group. Who knows how many of those they attacked were actually members of this group, if any, and how many were innocent bystanders who just happened to be white. In addition the the hate crime charges these idiots should be forced to compensate the owner of the restaurant for the serious damage they did to business both in terms of physical damage and lost customers. There is no indication that the restaurant had any idea that this was anything more than a peaceful group coming in for a meal and the restaurant owner did not deserve to have his business hurt in this way.

I agree with sparklystar. No one's learned a damn thing from the Trayvon Martin case, still as quick as ever to express their hatred on little-to-no evidence.

They may have been white supremists, or they may have actually been from an Irish heritage group as they claimed. But no, we can't have that. Much better to celebrate this group of vigilantes who jumped on some strangers in a restaurant who may have been neo-nazis and bashed anyone who got in their way

Assuming these “victims” really are white supremacists it must have come as a great surprise to them having their own violent tactics used against them. Usually two wrongs don't make a right but this case may be an exception to that rule.

Ana, having restaurant owners decide who can use their restaurant was made illegal in the 60's....ever hear of the sit ins that african americans did at southern restaurants? Do you really want to go back to those days???? I swear, America is getting frightening. I honestly am beginning to believe "history repeats itself".

Yes, it would have been better to enter the restaurant peacefully, showing their faces. They could have sat and ordered and talked about community, love, what fear does to people, etc., LOUDLY. Do it all the time. Overheard conversations are often far more effective than direct communication.

Problem with the attempts to make this a hate crime. The people were attacked not because of their race, but because of their affiliation with a group. Their is nothing inherent in belonging to a particular organization. Moreover, there is no protection under the law for a group that you join, not are born into under the law. Therefore, it would probably be fine for a restaurant to refuse service to say the Aryan Nation, as long as they allow other caucasians to eat there.

sick country...ain't it...

If it is going to be a hate crime then they may as well have finished them off. I guess as T.R. says "two wrongs dont make a right" but actually it is just not effective because white supremacist are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to intelligence so they reproduce like crazy to avoid natural selection. How do you like that Tron?

Not to condone mob violence, but it is hilarious to see a group of skinheads attacked violently. Ganging up against a lone minority and they're all tough, but put them in a stand up fight and they're just a punch of pansies :D

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys...

Not much difference between this situation and Zimmerman stalking and ending up shooting Trayvon Martin because he assumed he was a burglar. Guilty til proven innocent.

Wow. On the one hand I believe violence doesn't solve much. On the other, I kind of admire these guys for what they did.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Glad to see these fascists got their heads bashed in. Kind of wished I had been there to see it.

Not to condone mob violence, but it is hilarious to see a group of skinheads attacked violently. Ganging up against a lone minority and they're all tough, but put them in a stand up fight and they're just a punch of pansies

How true. That's why the cowards carry guns around. Not so tough when they have to stand toe to toe with their foe.

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys

You got that right, lynseypug.

Karma

So then if some group attacked a new black panther meeting, then that would be considered a hate crime only because it happened to an ethinic group that was not white

So then if some group attacked a new black panther meeting,

Go ahead and try that. Good luck and let me know how it turns out.

Tree, which hate is worse, the hate white racists have of others, or the hate this group of radicals has for the white racists? You can paint hate any color you want, or carry it any way you want, in the end, it's still hate. And any group that would use the same tactics as the white racists, just to get even with them, is no better than they are.

tomybeerm; nope not a coward, but am a realist; if someone attacks me for no reason other than they do not like my politics, then it is best to be able to defend yourself(the armed services tough me how, and my job until I retired tough me when not to use deadly force.) you appear to be a person with a lot of built up hate, for anyone that does not agree with you, chill-out, you will live a lot longer.

It was an Irish heritage group so it was a hate crime against the Irish. Also White Nationalism is not the same as White Supremicism.

the attackers must be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. It matters not what they believe or nor believe in for that is private. It was their action that caused personal injury and business loss.... SHAME ON YOU!

The real victims in this were the restaurant and their employees. When you belong to a "gang" which is based on hate; you reap what you sow........ which is hatred.

saxon - I don't believe you. But that doesn't matter because I don't care. My only question is why you jump to defend people like these morons when you fully well know the history behind what they stand for? Okay, so the guys that beat their asses are no better than them, etc., etc. But the reasoning behind what they did is a bit more understanding than just hating someone for the color of their skin. And yes, you're right, I have a bunch of hate for those who hate. Somehow I think you have a lot of hate too. Probably the POTUS comes to mind, right?

great, communists attacking nazis,(and vice versa) just like Germany in the 30s

Live by the sword die by the sword. It was about time someone kicked their white supremacist asses.

JS in SD Hitler also looked very peaceful while eating his meals.

AG99 says:

" . . . They may have been white supremists [sic], or they may have actually been from an Irish heritage group as they claimed."

Apparently, you've never been in Chicago. An Irish "heritage" association is a white supremacist group.

Doesn't matter. The mainest thing is; the fascists got the hell beat out of 'em, and many tea party members peed on themselves.

Beating the shiz out of anyone is a hate crime. It's just that now we formed this whole anti-discriminatory thing though. Sorry, violence is violence and stupid is stupid. This is why if there are aliens out there watching our pathetic asses, they're all, 'Uh, these people just can't get the @!$%# along.' Ya know what the problem is? Our ancestors.

Amazing how many racist libtards support this. Just goes to show they're not better than the people they claim to oppose. What a bunch of rotten scum.

The Irony of this is.. is.. wow... It would have been even more interesting if the attackers wore black and rainbow sheets instead of white ones... However, I don't support violence or hate crimes for difference of beliefs. But you have to admit, it's like watching Karma in action..., or "What goes around comes around".. Hence, they instigated the eventual, and obvious to happen outcome where fire is fought with fire. It's like being surprised when a group you persecuted gets a hold of the gun you used to help persecute them with.

Now it becomes a matter of how much empathy do I have for them.. :/ And a matter of how sad it is that those whom these groups hate become just like them.

Tree201: You get a mark - I'm on the fence with it also, but... its going around.

gtouch: the law could read differently depending on what state your're in.

Sparklystar: The mayor stated "he believed the victims had ties to white supremacist groups, but he could not confirm their affiliation". He BELEIVED that they were (I wonder why he said that? Because he knows about the locals maybe where the rest of us don't?). BUT - as a mayor, would YOU actually come out and state that they were even if you knew it were true? You're the mayor: these blokes aren't dead - next up: cement shoes for you, eh? He's playing it 'safe' Chicago style.

Plain Bob: ??? naw - it's just now getting interesting.

Deborah: so just how did some group of boys from out of town know that there was a meeting going on that was purported to be a white supremacy meeting? They did just 'happen' upon them after just 'happening' to stray (how many Km) off course for their destination with the Nato rally. They KNEW who would be there; so I seriously doubt they were a 'heritage' group (not of the Irish kind, at any rate!). Ring Ring: "Hello - yes, I'd like to book some tables for lunch for our KKK group on (day of the week)....". HELLO: These guys wear sheets - and you think they're going to book lunch for who they are out in the open? NOT

Mac Forrester: TOO funny!

The Jackel: VERY good post.

No hate crime here, just a preemptive strike. Right nut-job right wingers that belived that when retardo said it?

tonybeerm you have a lot of hate for those who hate. It sounds like you hate yourself. you should seek help, but your therapist would probably hate you too. This should not happen to anyone. Attacked by cowards who covered their faces, grabbed weapons and attacked an unsuspecting group because of their beliefs. And not only that but the restaurant owner says they attacked anyone that moved. Those of you who condone it just think hate is wrong if it isn't the same hate as yours. 100 years ago you were the KKK.

Tree201

Wow. On the one hand I believe violence doesn't solve much. On the other, I kind of admire these guys for what they did.

Of course, blacks love to see a good old fashioned white ass whooping….look at the riots itching to happen over Trayvon Martin. Ironically, they were wearing hoodies and carrying wooden bats, just like the black panthers. And where is the proof they were white supremacists and who were the ones covering their heads?

tron.3337333

you admire them attacking a bunch of people with different beliefs?

Of course! Nothing like a hypocrite!

A Veteran

This should be tried as a Hate Crime.

That is reserved for whites only… or anti-gay protesters

Alex, if the president of the US says "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon" before he knows all the facts...yes, I believe a mayor would say that before knowing all the facts. It's a shame that our politicians need to get their faces out there with any controversial incident and get their publicity by commenting on these incidents without all the facts and just adding to the hype of the medial Again, there is NO evidence in this article that these people were white supremacists.

Has the Trayvon Martin incident taught you nothing? Or the Duke Lacrosse players accused of rape hyped up by the media? I plan on waiting for more facts before a rush to judgement.

What better way to justify more black-on-white violent crime: Just publicly ASSUME the victims were "white supremacists".

Brilliant! Now people everywhere will be saying "they got what they deserved". That is, until it happens to them.

There are growing numbers of violent attacks by mobs of blacks against innocent whites such as at the Wisconsin state fair, attacks in philedelpia, and the numbers are increasing. Perhaps we should just state that all the white victims were just "racists" anyway. That justifies the whole thing right?

"I hate Illinois Nazis"
The Blues Brothers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ukFAvYP3UU

No mention of what race the attackers were, makes one wonder. As long as the "Alleged White Supremacists" were not hurting anyone, then they have as mush right to their views as anyone else. "Eric Holder, sounds like a hate crime don't ya think?"

these guys sound white, cody? dylan?

When They raised their hands to attack they became what they hate most, Bigoted facists, they could ultimately be charged with a hate crime, as they violated the racist's constitutional rights and they only attacked them for their beliefs.

In a few years the white American population will gain the condition of minority, giving the privileges that the actual, African American and other minority have. The congress will have their own White caucus that will provide legislature condemning as a hate crime any attack against white population, being in the minority will be beneficius for the civil rights Caucasian population.

As a future minority ill beleave it when i see it.I dont think we well get the special treatment.

I think all crimes are negative in nature,hate?love crime?

Fascist?theyre in washington.

If I had a son, he'd look like one of these hooded gangstas ...

So, please tell me someone if I'm missing something.... A group of individuals (Self-righteous Liberals, I think... is there any other kind?), who are filled with so much anger and intolerant demeanor toward White Supremacists (The other side of the Nazi coin and also a known radical group), target an unsuspecting Supremacists group and begin to offer them a good case of woopasss.

Now tell me, does anyone else see this as a HATE CRIME? Or is it A-Okay since a Bad-Guy Hate group was attacked by a Good Guy Hate group. Oh the humanity of a civilized world!

Typical liberals! You can believe anything you want.... as long as you agree with them! I find the beliefs of these white-supremists to be very distasteful, but, they have the absolute right under the constitution to have meetings and such as long as they do not violate anyone else's rights. This is not what these liberal "brown shirts" will tolerate. They do not tolerate anyone who is not tolerant!

yeah the irony , they are white so its not a "hate" crime, people need to get their stuff together, we are in the midst of a global government takeover , America has been disillusioned by corporate entertainment for too long, no one knows what they believe anymore , everyone against something, our only hope is Christ and grace really, the "other' nations and the "civil" Unitarian universalist propaganda has managed to get in the America mind set that had once made us distinct. Stop buying into that philosophy, we need to stand firm on our foundations ...its sad we have been so torn apart for a wrong interpretation of independence.

ohhhhhh the hypocrisy!!!!!! lol

What good do you think a bunch of white supremacists will do?? Seriously?? Stomp those racists out of here.

Fight extremism with the polar opposite extremism and it happened outside of Congress? Lol

Bullying a bully makes you a bully? Right before the constitution was written they where called freedom fighters by us and terrorist by the polar.

Daydreaming ( we need aliens to attack the human race then we might stop hurting our own kind ) anyways.

Shame on me but this story made me lol.
50/50 on it.

Folk are allowed to use firearms to defend themselves and their property, folk are allowed to publicly berate and humiliate other fellow citizens, folk have access to public displays of violence and debauchery either through cable television or the Internet, and folk can shoot or kill others and expect our great nation to provide them with a pass in the name of courtesy for their unyielding commitment to justice and freedom. All that has been accomplished in the past 140 years is rapidly being wiped out, all because some folk use the constitution as a personal form of entitlement. The country isn't perfect but that doesn't mean you have to make it any worse. It's time folk took some personal responsibility and became reflective - heck, folk are always quick to point the finger when they should be taking a very close look at themselves. Only then can you say you are proud to live in such a great nation. As for the story, maybe the anarchists and bigots will kill each other off leaving the rest of us to live in peace. Before we get excited, remember, it's good to laugh every now and then :)

“Each had a chair leg, baton or a bat. They came in and went straight to a table of white guys"

Hate crime without question. Will the perps be charged with such? doubtful. Clearly the race of the attackers is left out of the story because the liberal media doesn't like to report the reality of life.

Funny!

Pjam?

I bet u hate your nose because it blocks your view of your mouth.

Who cares what color their skin is? It is a hate crime and most likely premeditated.

Hate hate with hate.

Kill them with kindness

Slavery is illegal own a gay. Yes It was meant as immature humor!

I hope no innocent people (i.e. bystanders) were injured. And the vigilantes should pay the restaurant for the damage done. This is the problem with vigilantism--they don't usually care about what happens to bystanders and their property, and oftentimes they end up punishing the wrong people.

Gee, I wonder if Eric Holder will prosecute this as a 'hate crime'.

lol

Not right, but I'm sure not shedding any tears for them.

Imagine that... a group of white trash rednecks attacked by guys in hoods. Now THAT'S funny.

I just don't understand what anybody is doing in Illinois; everyone knows the real fun is down in Florida. Right now, according to Florida law, if you can provoke somebody you don't like into a fight, you can legally shoot them dead! In Illinois, they charge you with murder for that. Down in Florida, you might have to answer a few questions, but...get this...it really doesn't matter what you say, because it doesn't legally matter who started the fight, or why! It only matters that you 'fear great bodily harm'. No kidding. It's like pure freedom to kill what you hate!

Make sure you legally own the gun, though. That's important. You don't want to end up in jail.

@Pishaw

Would it be funny if it were a group of guys in hoods attacking a group of blacks? Would it be funny if it happened in a state with balls that allowed concealed weapons?

I can assure you it wouldn't have been funny if my family and I were there. I have a .357 degree black belt in Sig Sauer and wouldn't have lost a moments sleep protecting them with it in that type of melee. The hoodie's were lucky it didn't didn't happen with an armed law abiding citizen there. Each one of their mothers should get on their knees and thank god for that.

As far as the white hate group goes... You reap what you sow.

@Snakebone

Funny how leaving out a minor little fact, like say... There was an eye withness indicating Treyvon was on top of George Zimmerman beating him. Oh... And the Sanford police dpartment report indicated there were cuts on his head. Oh... And that there is absolutely NO proof of who started the fight.

Other than that... Your misinformation is still comletely incorect. But don't worry....this is MSNBC....facts don't matter here....like say the race of the "hooded attackers". Why is that? They caught 5 of them....MSNBC must know. It's all good though....I'll give you a pass...afterall you seem to get all your info from here. ROFL!!!

Jess: you completely missed that it doesn't matter who started the fight, or why. I wasn't actually joking about that. That is the law, seriously. Read it for yourself. I have no idea who started that particular fight (and neither do you), but the fact remains that, according to the law, it doesn't make any difference at all. Even If Zimm started the fight, it was still absolutely legal for him to kill Martin, because there was a fight, see? Here, I'll post the relevant part for you to read:

776.041 Use of force by aggressor.—The [self-defense] justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:

[...] (2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:

(a) Such force is so great that the
person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or
great bodily harm [...]

I just don't understand why all the haters aren't packing their guns and heading on down to the party.

I just don't understand why all the haters aren't packing their guns and heading on down to the party.

JEEZ, I hope you'e being sarcastic - because mark my word, that's coming! We are INCHES away from another civil war, and it doesn't matter who will fire the first shot, because alot of people are going to be killed. I read this article and all I could think was, so it begins....:(

How could this possibly be a hate crime? Hate against what, more hate? I think the categorization of "hate crime" is over used. We don't always have to throw race, religion, and sexual orientation into the mix. Sometimes someone will assault someone because of the good old fashion reason, because they don't like them.

I believe this was a group of white supremists but I agree with Sparklystar, the media is just trying to stir up controversy. They are out to start a civil war or race wars, this is all a part of the NWO plan. This is still pretty funny though because I always thought these ignorant fools need a good ass whippin. It should have been done outside of this poor guys restaruant though.....

Snakebone

Jess: you completely missed that it doesn't matter who started the fight, or why. I wasn't actually joking about that. That is the law, seriously. Read it for yourself. I have no idea who started that particular fight (and neither do you), but the fact remains that, according to the law, it doesn't make any difference at all. Even If Zimm started the fight, it was still absolutely legal for him to kill Martin, because there was a fight, see? Here, I'll post the relevant part for you to read:

776.041 Use of force by aggressor.—The [self-defense] justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:

[...] (2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:

(a) Such force is so great that the
person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or
great bodily harm [...]

I just don't understand why all the haters aren't packing their guns and heading on down to the party.

Snake

it matters quite who started the fight. If initiated, you become liable because you were negligent. If u started a bar fight and killed someone out of defense, u are negligent. Had u not started the fight and avoided danger instead of seeking it and danger found you, you would be in your right.

What good do you think a bunch of white supremacists will do?? Seriously?? Stomp those racists out of here.

THOUGHT TO BE white supremacists. That means no one knew for sure.

Besides, everybody knows only white people commit hate crimes.

Just sounds like assault and battery, perhaps aggravated. Group 'A' may strongly disagree with Group 'B'--even hate them. However, that gives them no license to do violence to them. Hope they throw the book at these morons.

Even if they are some a**hole white supremacists, I must agree that attacking them in a restaurant filled with people seems to be a very poor decision and despite their intentions I have to agree with Jay, throw the book at them.

Also, I have to say it:

"I hate Illinois Nazis."

Here, here...I agree completely. Fascists, communists...at opposite ends of the spectrum and each just as bad as the other.

Old Gyrene, Fascists are socialists (Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao) like Obama and his ilk. The white supremists are just idiots who idiolize the propaganda of morons. But, these idiots who attacked them are now acting like Hitler's brown shirts did in the 1930's. The Nazis hated Jews, the liberals the 1%. The Nazis forced socialized medicine just like the liberals now. The Nazis nationalized their auto industry, the liberals bailed out GM and Chrysler while ignoring the property rights of the bond holders (including teachers, firemen and senior citizens). Sounds like history is repeating itself! (By the way, if you are a marine, I salute your service!)

Crazy Talk Kid

"I hate Illinois nazis"

I do too, Elwood.

Sorry but I can't help but laugh at this one. Is that wrong? ;-)

I'm a liberal (or a middle of the roader at times) and I know what those guys did was wrong. If a wasp white anglo saxon protestant or other white guy wants to believe he's superior and only wants to hang out with his kind, that's his right. You can't force someone to be your friend. As long as these WASPS or Whites aren't hurting someone they've done nothing legally wrong. The guys who beat up on them broke the law and must pay the consequences.

I'm curious, does anyone know for sure that they were white supremacists, or just members of the local irish- american association as the restaurant owner claimed? I just love how MSNBC always has to add someone's nonsensical remarks about what they think they know. If they aren't a hate group, I hope they sue that mayor for defamation.

The goood thing about WHite supremacists is that they invariably provide the best refution of their own twisted beliefs.

Of course the Supremes were all Black. Not I'm not sure but there was a rumor that a member of the Commodores was just passing as Black, but, man they were a good group. Anyway this is a serious as I can be with an apparent Charger fan.

Not sure what is so great about any color, but being human is pretty cool..well, cept when douchebags are being..douchebags.

Can someone enlighten me on what is SO Supreme about being White??

Other than their ego, not a damned thing.

To bad folks just cant be american and speak english the language of the land that helps bind us together.

Other than their ego, not a damned thing.

I do believe that be a racist statement ... shame on you ...

If any person regardless of race, cannot look at themselves in the mirror and be proud of themself and their race for producing them, they got a problem! If you can look at someone and judge them as bad strictly on their race then there is something very wrong with you!

All whites are not supremacists.....all supremacists are not white. Think about it if you can.

First,nobody has proven that they were white supremacists.Also,it's quite peculiar that the attackers race wasn't mentioned.However,I can guarantee you if the persons being attacked were black and the perpertrators were white. It would be front page news.If it's white on black the current administration ,and its Eric Holder will turn a blind eye.That is a fact! Remember the incident with the new black panthers at the voting booth.I believe in equal justice under the law.

Sounds like you were one of the "Irish Heritage Group" members.
They ALLWAYS talk about hurting people, but when a can of whoopazz gets opened on them, they cry like little girls
If you can't take it, don't dish it out.
Yes, this was a horrible criminal act. But these fools brought it on themselves.

I wish it was on YouTube.

lilmscharger - "Can someone enlighten me on what is SO Supreme about being White??"

While you're at it, you may want to ask a member of "La Raza" why a race of people who been outdone by drug smugglers and rather than fix it they simply run to their neighbors considers themselves "The Race".

hurting and killing people of any race is wrong. We need to start listening to people and try to understand people who arent alike. We may learn something good about that particular race of people and stop being so afraid of one another.

There has been nothing put forward to show the guys beat were actual white supremacists. At this point, people are just speculating they were.

Just like George Zimmerman speculated Trayvon Martin was a criminal.

If you wrestle with a skunk you smell like a skunk.

ottermann, this is just speculation?

According to the Anti-Racist Action website:

“On Saturday, May 19th a group of 30 anti-fascists descended upon Ashford House restaurant in the Chicago suburb of Tinley Park where the 5th annual White Nationalist Economic Summit and Illinois White Nationalist Meet-and-Greet was taking place. The White Nationalists were targeted inside the restaurant and physically attacked, causing several injuries and completely shutting down their meeting.”

Gary, yes it is just sepculation. Are you really going to believe a website called "Anti Racist Action"? Wow, I can create a website called "People Can Turn Into Rabbits" and post all kinds of crap on it..doesn't make it true. What is not sepculation is that the people doing the beating are in fact, racist.

I agree Teri!

Joining a white supremacist group is a choice. It is not a protected status. So, sorry, not a hate crime. For it to be a "hate crime" it must be something intrinsic to the way you are - race, religion, national origin, gender or sexual orientation. Joining a group, even one based upon race, does not work.

I'll let you know when pigs fly pass my window.

It was an Irish heritage group so it was a hate crime against the Irish.

This will probably turn out to be a bunch of socialist looking to stir things up. I do not see what the officials in that town are laughing about. It makes them appear as a bunch of idiots! Everybody has a right to their own opinions regardless of what other may think. To be attached by and armed group and having any officials finding it in any way humorous is hard to comprehend unless they were directly involved!

If being white is a crime then I am guilty! If color brands you as either innocent or guilty then this country is surely regressing! It now seems that any hint of stereotyping someone as a supremacist is grounds to attack them as others laugh. If the other group is indeed a white supremacist group then they will retaliate. I just hope they get the right ones. Then we can set back and watch Eric Holder bring in the shock troops and show everybody how he will get whitey!

'They got walloped': Masked group attacks alleged white supremacists in Illinois restaurant

So how's the hospital food, Gary?

“On Saturday, May 19th a group of 30 anti-fascists descended upon Ashford House restaurant "

Funny, the article I read said 18 and they attacked a group of only 10 unarmed people (the guy with the gun got it out of his car afterwards) with bats and hammers. What "Men"; looks like "anti-racist action" involves gutless wonders beating on whoever they disagree with, as long as it's safe. Saw their mugshots, what a bunch of losers. When are these idiots going to realize that you can't fight hate with violence, if that's what they were doing.

Yeah everyone remembers how non-violence defeated the fascists in WW2.

Did we go over there or did they come to us? I can't remember.

@ Mr.Jones78

Check your history books pal...they sent their lap dog Tojo after us, so yes they did come here first! Why is it you people are so bloody retarded? Otterman is exactly right! Are you saying that every white man with a shaved head must be a white supremacist and therefore it's ok to attack them? I'd like to see some punk try this with me! He will be breathing out of the other side of his head by the time I get done with him! and then to go and brag on the web about it...do these people know that they just put a huge target on their members backs?

Hey cannon

Better write to all the historians and tell them they got it all wrong. Apparently they all believe that Hitler didn't know about the Pearl Harbor attack until after it happened. I never said you were a white supremacist, as far as I know the only thing you have in common with them is that they get their historical events of WW2 wrong as well, you know like not believing in the holocaust and such.

www.csmonitor.com/USA/2011/1207/Pearl-Harbor-Day-How-did-Adolf-Hitler-react-to-the-attack

Sorry about the facts.

How about 10-20 for assault and battery?

Those were not bats, they were batons and we saw them carried in front of polling places!

There is a medal for them, the same one you got. The braying jacka%# medal.

why do you hope they were actual skinheads???

Because then he can justify the beating based on his dislike or fear of skinheads. You know just like people who fear blacks get to go out and beat them.

@Deemo -- "the only reason I shave my head is because I inherited my dad's hairline. But I get mistaken for a skinhead all the time"

This is called a rush to judgment. You hear the same thing from people justifying Trayvon Martin's death because he was wearing a "hoodie" or posed for some questionable Facebook photos. Too bad people are so ignorant and rush to judgment because of something someone is wearing or the way they look. Real sickening.

You cannot beat stupid out of people, but you can by your action instill hate! It can become a vicious cycle that only keeps growing bigger!

"The longer it takes for your enemy to die, the more like him you become."

Rene Char

I think the perps had on mask so we shouldn't assume they were any particular ethnic group until we know for sure. What if this was a case of white on white crime? Maybe that's a possibility to look at.

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the lead in this story was, They got Walloped,. Lets you know right off the bat that whoever wrote it was in the camp of the attackers!

Right! whites against whites. you do know they were ALL white right?

"Right! whites against whites. you do know they were ALL white right?"

Where in the story does it say the assailants were white? Are you assuming because of the names they were white? Also, only 5 of the group were caught, what of the rest? If 18 people in masks attacked the group quietly eating, just how to you presume this was white on white crime unless you have x-ray vision and can see through the masks. Were you even there? Just like they assumed these people were "white supremacist", you could simply be stereotyping, you know, that thing racists do all the time. Who are the real the "fascists" now?

I belong to several Irish groups, doe that make me a racist?

To bad we can't ship all the haters off to an island somewhere and let them beat each other up while the rest of us proceed with the 21st century.

The irony....? No. The stupidity of people like yourself, very sad.

So, using your "logic", it would be perfectly fine for a group of KKK members to assault a groups of Blacks they assumed to be Black Panthers while they were eating? How sad for you.

no,they won't want anything in court....just the names and addresses will do just fine.....they still have irish police right?these masked dummy's are gonna get a visit....holder has to step in now,just to keep it in control....up front or in jail these masked bandits are are needen some ky jelly

The masked bandits learned from the best masked bandits ever,

the KKK!

For a change? There is ZERO evidence these folks were doing anything except enjoying a meal together. I cannot believe the hypocricy of people who would glorify a public beating of innocent people. To those who would argue that these folks were not innocent, that is why we have a justice system. Were they escaped convicts? No. Were they fugitives from justice? No. Were they causing a disturbance? No. But Hey! Let's beat them because they have shaved heads. You people deserve to lose your freedoms. You have no concept of what they even mean.

Bill, you protest too much. Did you read the article?

the 5th annual White Nationalist Economic Summit and Illinois White Nationalist Meet-and-Greet was taking place. The White Nationalists were targeted inside the restaurant and physically attacked

Have you ever been to Tinley Park? It's not just known for its corned beef and bacon..Just saying!

"Innocent people", Bill? The white supremacists victimize others, violence or not.

Trissa, where in this article is it confirmed that these people were white supremacists and not an Irish Heritage Group as they claimed to be? Did you believe the Duke Lacrosse players were innocent based on media hype? Do you believe that the hoodie wearing Trayvon deserved to be followed simply because the hoodie "marked" him as a criminal? What about the security guard that the FBI arrested after he found the bomb at the olympics? Media hype had as ALL believing that he was the bomber. Turned out the guy was completely innocent. Where is the proof that these people are NOT a part of the Irish Heritage Group???

no one but the attackers claimed they was white supremacists. so yes they was innocent. the attackers belived they was, they entered a resturant, and started attacking a table of white people.

for no reason other than they wanted to attack something

gee i guess jesse spike and al have no interest in this lmao...pukes

Well in a free state people would have pulled out guns and shot the stick wielding folk attacking people as they sat down to eat.

But do you know for a fact that these people beat down anyone, anywhere or anytime. Maybe they endorse white nationalism but never use violent? maybe they are a political white nationalist political organization. Like La Raza, the NAACP, Black Liberation party etc etc.

HYPOCRITES

Yeah ... Hitler's Brownshirts used the same tactics as these attackers. This was a planned attack. How did these thugs no these people would be at that restaurant at that time.

The liberal left screams about violence but they are always the ones perpetuating the violence. You can be certain the FBI will not get involved. Holder may have set this up with his infamous Civil Rights Division. The Black Panthers are talking about killing "cracker babies" but Holder lists them as a "community activists"

The have attacked and assaulted black men with white women and threaten violence every day while amassing weapons but nothing is done.

Just more evidence that this administration is racist and bent on national division to control us.

How else to control the population - create division

I think your statements are a little foolish. Look at who is always attacking who and then make those claims.

Let's hope both groups kill each other next time.

LMAO

Here's hoping, commenting, here's hoping.

Joejon, LOL did you actually READ and UNDERSTAND what I wrote? I seriously doubt it.

Our national personality right now is "bully". Whoever beats the other side to a pulp wins.

Actually giving the oppressors a taste of their own medicine is the American way. I do give props to the skinheads for not carrying guns in public. They were not cowards after all. :)

@Benet You're right - and I'm liberal and not at all on the fence. It was a violent assault, not only on the suspected Klan gathering, but on the staff and other diners - must have been terrifying! Appropriate charges, including hate crime charges, should be brought.

I ask in all seriousness - is this the first time you've embraced what a hate crime means? I'm not being snarky, I just don't see a lot of people on the conservative side of said fence ever backing any kind of hate crime legislation. Violent attacks on people for being who they are and believing what they believe, especially a pre-meditated assault like this, are awful and have far-reaching consequences - physically and emotionally.

@Fearlesskris - I think you need to do your homework. If you read me, you will find I am a Dyed in the wool liberal. I am just speaking up and not being silent when a crime is done ostensibly in my name.

fearless, i am a hard nosed conservative and trust me, a hate crime is a hate crime.

sadly most " hate crimes" that people scream about are not even a crime let alone triggered by hate.

like the Muslim woman in cali that was beaten to death and a het note left, they proved it wasn't a hate crime but a family member who has since fled the country. this thing with zimmerman, they played it as a hate crime but the facts that are coming out don't paint it as one. now a group of white men stringing up a black man in a tree is a hate crime. a group of blacks beating up a white man on the streets is a hate crime. and i do believe all hate crimes should be dealt with severely.

respect and kindness go a long way at bridging any gaps people have

will we stamp out hatred in this country or race issues. sadly not any time soon. but with time and education and compassion the war on hate will be won

The calls from conservatives for this to be tried as a hate crime don't stem from them suddenly like the hate crime laws, but from frustration at them not equally being applied.