What are they supposed to do, have him forever stricken from the record forever. I think Harvard is proud of the graduates they have turned out, and I think they are proud of Teddy K. as well. They just have to play the "oh we are sorry and didn't realize" angle

If you think about the Unabomber and the Oklahoma bombing and the 1999 Twin Towers bombing you we realize how long a head start we had to prepare for terrorism and completely dropped the ball.

Be mad at him but be mad at both parties now in office who had years to prepare and chose to bicker instead.

VOTE!!!

If there were a Country with a system in place powerful and all seeing enough to monitor the citizens closely enough to prevent any terrorist act from taking place....then I certainly wouldn't want to live in it. Be careful what you wish for. Oppressive governments often come in the form of "protective governments."

Steve is probably a "small gov't " republican.

If I had known about the auction, I would have put in a bid for one of his bombs and donated it to Congress :)

You can't re-write history. You have to claim the bad with the good.

Right, CTviking, never slander his royal highness.

but one person stands out among those sharing news about career moves, retirements and grandkids: Unabomber Ted Kaczynski

That just shows that it does not matter where people go to school. At the end of the day, people are either smart or they are not. Many people have done really good with degrees from State Universities.

I agree that this man has done terrible things. All I ask is that everyone here go to google and look up MK ULTRA. Just type it in and read all you can on it. It will sicken you. Kaczynski was a 16 year old victim of this scheme and research travesty carried out by the CIA and our government. I can't imagine the damage it did to his brain at that age.

and Chris have you got your welfare check and foodstamps this month??

What makes a person turn like that? From eccentric to insane?

gillanator

It is often quoted that there is a fine line which separates genius from insanity. One wrong step and the glory of genius is stomped by the evil of insanity.

It's too bad that the financial terrorists are not either executed or serving life sentences.

Gillanator- If you are actually interested in learning what changed Ted Kaczynski from a quiet, reserved kid into a terrorist there is a great book by Alston Chase called "Harvard and the Unabomber". The gist is that it was during the Cold War taht when Ted was a freshman at Harvard (and only 16), and the US government was basically doing ethically questionable expiraments on college students to see if they could withstand rigurous interogation methods. Ted Kaczynski was one of those students. Many of the other students in his class that were interrogated regard what happened to them as one of the worst things to happen in their lives. It seems that at such a young age, Ted Kaczynski was less well equiped to deal with the expiraments.

Hey, you've got to give credit where credit is due ......

He was caught in 1996 when his brother recognized his idiosyncratic writings and tipped off authorities.

Then the Lord said to Cain, "Where is your brother Abel?"

If there were a Country with a system in place powerful and all seeing enough to monitor the citizens closely enough to prevent any terrorist act from taking place....then I certainly wouldn't want to live in it. Be careful what you wish for. Oppressive governments often come in the form of "protective governments."

You mean like the one we are living in is BECOMING?

Oh look, the brainwashed Brahmin are blaming the GOP for Kacynski? Let's see, 1962,,,, wasn't that the Kennedy/Johnson reign? Is not Harvard a decidedly leftist institution? Is not Bill Ayers a registered Democrat? Wasn't he responsible for several bombings in the 60"s and early 70's? Are not ELF and ALF not leftist in the extreme? Other leftists include the Black panthers, Nation of Islam, the "New" BPP, EDF, SLA, etc. Who is responsible for the most extremist groups? The GOP? Really? Look again Brahmin.

ricardoh

I guess if the GOP have their way only the select few can go to college, right.

Kaczynski was a brilliant man to be in harvard at 16. To bad something happened their to steer him in that direction because he could have been something wonderful if given a opportunity in the right path at that early age!

I believe the correct term was 'Unibomber', dubbed by the FBI due to his bombings in Universities.

"It's a decision the Harvard alumni association now regrets.""While all members of the class who submit entries are included, we regret publishing Kaczynski's references to his convictions and apologize for any distress that it may have caused others,"

Does this mean that the Harvard Alumni association will publish Kaczynski's next submission during the 60th class reunion, and do it with similar 'regrets?'

I take note of that alumni association's initials --- which could stand for several things.

upright one, I did google mk ultra, and found it interesting. Thank you for the idea. when i was younger, i ingested LSD many times. now i wonder if i was working for the cia, unbeknownst to myself.

Kaczynski was wrong for what he did. It transcends political views.

Link-43048 It would be helpful if you would take the opportunity to fully understand the history of World War II before posting your comments. You clearly have a limited understanding of what was happening in the world leading up to and during the war. More than 60 million people lost their lives as a result of World War II and it was not the result of firebombing or the atom bomb. This was a tragedy for all of humanity!

The way I heard it, Ted liked to target United Airlines = UNited Airlines = UNA, I always thought it should be UNI also.

Ted was still a kid mentally when he went to Harvard, he felt picked on by those he perceived as the older "cool" kids, whom he determined represented Liberals. If you read his Manifesto, he blames all of the worlds problems on Liberals, this is why it was so ironic when that far Right group used his image on billboards suggesting Ted was a Liberal.

Nicodemus; Republicans terrorize under the protection of the law - and have a kill count that dwarfs the groups you listed.

I have known 3 people that I considered to be super intelligent; two men and a woman. In every case they were odd and did not fit in with others. They seemed to share the trait of shyness; and they all had a basic mistrust of people. To me it seems that many people who have this "Einstein" type of super intelligence are one step away from insanity.

As liberal and anti American as Harvard is, you know they sympathize with him and aren't sorry at all they included him in their directory.

Harvard is NOT anti-american. Seriously what is wrong with some people?

well I agree with you jce1

Stoopid,

It wasn't just LSD, they used ecstasy, acid, barbiturates, heroin, even early forms of meth amphetamines, as well as experiments in hallucinogenics, hypnotics, and it wasn't just college students. They tested them on agents, soldiers, government employees and all without their knowledge or consent. There are even some that claim that some small area school children were subjected to these experiments and that researchers were placed at the schools as teachers and counselors to observe how the children reacted and developed. This is no joke. It has been proven to have happened and that in an effort to cover up how much damage they did the CIA and government burned thousands of pages of documented proof, and if what was found was only the tip of the iceberg, I'm scared of what they will do next.

MK ULTRA don't be to lazy to look it up.

drainbramage,

Care to site your claim?

You do realize that nearly every war America has EVER been in has been a democrats war.

My claim is SUPER easy to site.

Yours is nonsense and therefore will be impossible to site.

I'm an independent. You are obviously not.

So you think that wars are started by the Presidents?

uhhh healthy male: the first and second gulf wars were during a time a repubs were in office. those are the most modern wars and the most ridiculous. these wars are arguably the most expensive, time consuming, illigitimate wars ever waged. they are against an enemy not in uniform, not distinguished like any previous wars except for certain instances in vietnam, and against an enemy that numbers multiply everyday because of what we are doing. in these ways, repubs are worse when it comes to war. where have YOU been these last 20 years?

statistics are hard to argue. most american terrorists indoctrinate themselves with a radical right wing agenda. unibomber was anti-govt. don't conservatives complain that liberals want too much govt? hate crime statistics also prove that right wing fanatics are FAR more likely to commit hate crimes. having said all of this, he did graduate from harvard so i guess he can participate in certain things that alumni participate in as long as he isn't a safety concern for other citizens. it is sad for the families but then again it will always be sad for them.

Healthy Male--well, first, the Republican party did not exist until around the time of the Civil War. Prior to that time, there was a Democratic party. However, today's Democratic party is the dead opposite of what it was about 100 years ago. The Dixiecrats during the 1950s and 1960s were the left-over section of the party--still committed to "state's rights" and Jim Crow.

Nevertheless--just to humor you:

Franco-American Naval War--John Adams--No party designation

Barbary Wars--Thomas Jefferson--Democratic Republican party

War of 1812--James Madison--Democratic Republican party

Creek War--James Madison--Democratic Republican party

Mexican American War--James Knox Polk--Democratic

US Civil War--Abraham Lincoln--Union

Spanish American War--McKinley--Republican

World War I--Wilson--Democratic

World War II--FDR--Democratic

Korean War--Truman/Eisenhower--Democratic/Republican

Vietnam War--Eisenhower/Kennedy/Johnson/Nixon--Republican/Democratic/Democratic/Republican

Bay of Pigs--Kennedy--Democratic

Grenada--Reagan--Republican

US Invasion of Panama--Reagan/Bush--Republican

Persian Gulf War--Bush--Republican

Bosnia and Herzegovina--Clinton--Democratic

Invasion of Afghanistan--Bush--Republican

Invasion of Iraq--Bush--Republican

So, Healthy Male--you might actually want to Google this yourself. These are all the wars in which the US has officially participated. Several of them, by the by, we didn't have much of a choice about engaging in as we were attacked. Quite a few of them occurred back when the Democratic party was the party of fiscal responsibility (it wasn't today's Democratic party).

Have a great day.

Ted Kaczynski was an alumni. What he chose to do may have been wrong but Harvard should not be apologizing since he was an alumni.

Robert-2302414

Good point I agree.

beanathome

Good list. I didn't realize we were involved in so many wars.

When it comes to War - I look at who profits.

It's a 50th reunion. He graduated 50 years ago. This is about as common as sense can be. His inclusion was earned by his graduation. You can't revoke a degree or pretend it didn't happen.

Alan I agree; his update on life events was true, he is a graduate of Harvard and honestly, the families of his victims are going to be insulted by him until (and probably after) he dies.

How do I put this Alan as most of his killings were when you had diapers on? We are not pretending he did not earn a degree, what is being said is rights have been forfited to society when he intentionlly blew people up into little pieces since he had a hard on against the government.

Common sense and respect is you would not publish his "achievements" of killing people. I know your Playstation has desensitized you to the difference of real life and death but you will have to face it in the real world. You "mom" below also missed the point as well as it is more than "insulting" to kill a family member.

um no...he did grad in fact from Harvard and just because he is a despicable human being and in prison will NOT change that FACT....I'm 48 years old and don't play games on a playstation or anything else for that matter....SMDH!!!

I do think that it is stupid that after someone commits a crime some people act like the person never existed.

Whenever USC is playing football, a commentator will mention their history of great running backs and conveniently leave OJ off of the list. As if his rushing yards don't exist anymore.

Realistically from a history point of view...people want facts. While we may be upset by his acts today, in the future it will be a curiosity. The people of the future will want PROOF of everything, just as we today look back at documents for proof of things. So if we wipe out things from the pages that hurt our feelings then we are erasing historical fact.

More PC revisionist history.

He graduated from Harvard, Deal with it.

Robert E. Lee graduated from West point. You want him removed for their history?

It doesn't have to be "revisionist".

They could've just included his name and photo, along with the one-word entry that best describes him and his "accomplishments":

MURDERER.

7-7

Common sense and respect is you would not publish his "achievements" of killing people

ya to bad we dont follow this rule eh?

ya got hollywood making big bucks from these idiots

far as im concerned when you are a inhuman killer you need to be stricken from everything except 1 note for history stating- dumb ass killer

but got to make a buck with no care and an excuse to cover your immoral deeds

lots of greed an less heart is hollywoods idea

Sorry seven2seven, common sense dictates that if he graduated from Harvard he graduated from Harvard. Do I sense a little jealousy of the Ivy Leagues?

Also, although he committed an atrocious crime, pretending he doesn't exist or that he hasn't had some accomplishments in his life gets us nowhere. The facts are that he has been published and his occupation is prison and his life sentences were technically awarded to him.

He should be allowed to attend with supervision. obama has conducted more illegal killings and maimed more by orders of magnitude.

IMO, they should have just listed his name, no other information.

BTW: are they going to list the information of the other recent mass murderer/war criminal George W. Bush ?

dirp - George W Bush did not go to HArvard, he went to Yale.

Hollykb, The fact that W got in and graduated from Yale goes to prove you can get in any university with enough political pull and money.

Susan 2311367 - couldn't agree with you more. But if I were from Harvard I would resent anyone associating W with my alma mater. Personally Yale should be embarassed.

GW while I did not like him, and even voted for obama, did have congressional approval for his involvement in other nations, which is all the president needs. If he is convicted in malaysia, let them declare war on us, otherwise shut up. obama however, the supreme leader, he doesn't need anyones permission, he don't have to follow the constitution, he can just drop bombs wherever he wants. Keep watching, if he keeps going, you will probably see those guns pointing in instead of out.

Agree, seven2seven. I read alot of these post and see very articulate,educated people .Then there is "State Attorney"and those that think as he does. I do propose that their thinking is flawed and lacks life experiance.

Come back to me when you have lost a child, parent, husband, wife,etc, to terrorism . For those that don't seem to know, there is a difference between war and terrorism. Given a choice I would venture to say that everyone would agree that we would like no war or terrorism , but alas we live in the United States of America. The land of the free and I for one would like to keep it that way

I'm actually more suprised that they posted him in the book considering what happened to him at harvard. If you are actually interested in learning what changed Ted Kaczynski from a quiet, reserved kid into a terrorist there is a great book by Alston Chase called "Harvard and the Unabomber". The gist is that it was during the Cold War taht when Ted was a freshman at Harvard (and only 16), and the US government was basically doing ethically questionable expiraments on college students to see if they could withstand rigurous interogation methods. Ted Kaczynski was one of those students. Many of the other students in his class that were interrogated regard what happened to them as one of the worst things to happen in their lives. It seems that at such a young age, Ted Kaczynski was less well equiped to deal with the expiraments.

Thatguydownsouth, if we take your post (#2.7) one step futher, we come to the old adage that "those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it", or something like that.

Alan Pugh says: "You can't revoke a degree."

Actually, Alan, it has been done... Do you happen to know where General Benedict Arnold received his baccalaureate?

[That tombstone -- for his leg -- no longer bears his name because it was removed].

Howy61,

Yes. He should be removed.

Talk about revisionist history. He was incompetant and anyone who invests a lot of time reading about him will agree that he almost single-handedly lost the war for the south.

Good thing. But still. The south changed the history and made him a great General. He sucked.

A lot of testy people on here today. Someone striking nerves?

How do I put this Alan as most of his killings were when you had diapers on? We are not pretending he did not earn a degree, what is being said is rights have been forfited to society when he intentionlly blew people up into little pieces since he had a hard on against the government.

Common sense and respect is you would not publish his "achievements" of killing people. I know your Playstation has desensitized you to the difference of real life and death but you will have to face it in the real world. You "mom" below also missed the point as well as it is more than "insulting" to kill a family member.

OK, Seven2Seven, let's break this down. I don't know anything about Ted Kaczynski because I was "in diapers" when the Unabomber was sending his packages, right? It's funny that you should judge my knowledge of the Unabomber then go on to say he hated the government. He wasn't anti-government, he was anti-technology. He felt that instead of possessing technology, technology possessed us and it was getting worse every day. He was also very frustrated with political correctness and what he perceived as the weak-mindedness of the American left.

I've read Technological Slavery. It's on my bookshelf. I had a strong interest in what this man had to say despite the fact that I disagree with him almost across the board, because he is very well-educated and has some intriguing opinions on the future of society in a tech-fueled world. Your judgment was a bit unfounded.

Also, I was a teenager during his final string of bombings and the publishing of his manifesto. I didn't wear diapers as a teenager, and I don't play video games, so please check your personal attacks at the door and try to explain your assertion that a university graduate should not be listed as a university graduate (even though he is) without resorting to cheap insults.

Are you trying to infer that knowledge is evil? Is this that "anti-intellectualism" I've been hearing about? Your statement is scary.

hangem,

You seem to bear some resentment against elite institutions. Funny, in another era, they would have been sources of pride for our country. How sad that there are folks like you out there.

Im sure he's not the only criminal produced by harvard.

JM,

I have a resentment toward an institution considering itself to be "elite" when in reality it is no better than Ohio State. They are only better because they say they are better.

Mostly psychos go to these "elite" schools. These days it is mostly the psychos who get labelled "genius." I graduated from the College of William and Mary and have lived among these kids for years. All you ever read and hear about in the Alumni mag and in the school's literature is about the honor code and their institution's high moral compass. The students are mostly ultra-conservative, bible thumping northern suburban conservatives who have never known the meaning of the words "work" and "earning." Through my personal experiences with them, I know that most of them are totally immoral, would kill someone for profit if they thought they could get away with it (most of them could because they are related to "important" people), and generally look down their noses at anyone who has to work for anything. Harvard should leave Teddy K's info in the Reunion material because it probably reflects the true character of those attending the school.

AP,

I have no doubt that the people you describe exist - and may even be the majority of the student body. Don't know, won't dispute it.

HOWEVER, below I have pasted (as much as the vine will allow) the list of Nobel laureates produced by Harvard. I would say this defines "elite".

Jack Szostak
Physiology and medicine, 2009
“for pioneering work in the discovery of telomerase, an enzyme that protects chromosomes from degrading.”

Al Gore
Nobel Peace Prize, 2007
“for efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about manmade climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change”

Eric S. Maskin '72, Ph.D. '76?
Economics 2007
"For having laid the foundations of mechanism design theory"

Thomas C. Schelling
Economics 2005
“For having enhanced our understanding of conflict and cooperation through game-theory analysis”

Roy J. Glauber
Physics 2005
“For his contribution to the quantum theory of optical coherence”

Linda B. Buck
Physiology or Medicine 2004
For discoveries of “odorant receptors and the organization of the olfactory system”

Riccardo Giacconi
Physics 2002
For pioneering contributions to astrophysics, which have led to the discovery of cosmic X-ray sources

A. Michael Spence
Economics 2001
For analyses of markets with asymmetric information

Amartya Sen
Economics 1998
Research on welfare economics

Robert C. Merton
Economics 1997
For a new method to determine the value of derivatives

Seamus Heaney
Literature 1995
For poetic works of lyrical beauty and ethical depth, which exalt everyday miracles and the living past

Elias J. Corey
Chemistry 1990
Devised rules that allow scientists to make complex new molecules from ordinary chemicals

Joseph E. Murray
Medicine 1990
Developed new procedures for organ transplants (with E. Donnall Thomas, formerly of the University of Washington)

Norman Ramsey
Physics 1989
Research on separate oscillatory fields to make precise measurements of how various parts of atoms and molecules interact with each other

Dudley R. Herschbach
Chemistry 1986
Developed techniques enabling scientists to see collisions taking place between pairs of molecules and detect the products of such collisions

International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War, Bernard Lown,
co-founder 1921-
Peace 1985

Carlo Rubbia
Physics 1984
Discovery and investigation of new subatomic particles and their properties

Nicolaas Bloembergen
Physics 1981
Discovery of laser spectroscopy, whereby atoms can be studied with higher precision

Torsten Wiesel
Medicine 1981
Research on information-processing in the visual system (with David Hubel)

David Hubel
Medicine 1981
Research on information-processing in the visual system (with Torsten Wiesel)

Walter Gilbert
Chemistry 1980
Developed methods to work out the structure of DNA

Baruj Benacerraf
Medicine or Physiology 1980
Discovered that disease-fighting ability is passed on genetically, although the immune-response gene varies from person to person

Steven Weinberg
Physics 1979
Used mathematical hypotheses to explain electromagnetism and “weak” interactions (with Sheldon L. Glashow)

Sheldon L. Glashow
Physics 1979
Used mathematical hypotheses to explain electromagnetism and “weak” interactions – two of the four basic forces in nature – according to the same laws (with Steven Weinberg)

John H. Van Vleck
Physics 1977
Pioneered the application of quantum mechanics to the study of magnetism

William N. Lipscomb
Chemistry 1976
Research on the structure of boranes, which has increased the understanding of chemical bonding

Wassily W. Leontief
Economics 1973
Developed the input-output analysis used in forecasting and planning the economy

Kenneth J. Arrow
Economics 1972
Contributed to the general economic equilibrium theory and welfare theory

Simon S. Kuznets
Economics 1971
Developed the concept of using GNP as a measure of change in the nation’s economic growth

George Wald
Medicine or Physiology 1967
Research on the biochemistry of vision

Robert Burns Woodward
Chemistry 1965
Laboratory synthesis of complex molecules

Julian S. Schwinger
Physics 1965
Contributed to the study of quantum electrodynamics

Konrad E. Bloch
Medicine or Physiology 1964
Studied the pattern of reactions involved in the biosynthesis of cholesterol and fatty acids

James D. Watson
Medicine or Physiology 1962
Described the structure of DNA
In 1953, at the tender age of 25, the enfant terrible Watson, with British scientist Francis Crick, presented a model for DNA, beating Linus Pauling in a neck-and-neck race to one of the most significant scientific discoveries of the 20th century. His controversial book, The Double Helix, “has been called,” says The New York Times, “the most honest book ever written about scientific research.” Watson is currently president of the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory on Long Island, N.Y.

Georg von Bekesy
Medicine or Physiology 1961
Demonstrated the physical principles involved in the mechanism of hearing

Thomas H. Weller
Medicine or Physiology 1954
Application of tissue-culture methods to the study of viral diseases (with J.F. Enders and F.C. Robbins)

Frederick C. Robbins
Medicine or Physiology 1954
Application of tissue-culture methods to the study of viral diseases (with J.F. Enders and T.H. Weller)

John F. Enders
Medicine or Physiology 1954
Application of tissue-culture methods in developing a polio virus, the ingredient of the polio vaccine (with F.C. Robbins and T.H. Weller)

Fritz A. Lipmann
Medicine or Physiology 1953
Identified “coenzyme A” and discovered basic principles in the understanding of proteins

Edward M. Purcell
Physics 1952
Discovered the nuclear resonance method that measures magnetic fields in atomic nuclei

Ralph J. Bunche
Peace 1950
Negotiated an armistice in the Middle East

Henry J. Cadbury
Peace 1947
Chairman, American Friends Service Committee (AFSC) of Philadelphia

Percy W. Bridgman
Physics 1946
Investigations in changes that occur when various materials are subjected to extremely high pressure

William P. Murphy
Medicine or Physiology 1934
Research on liver treatment of the anemias (with George Minot)

George Minot
Medicine or Physiology 1934
Research on liver treatment of the anemias (with William P. Murphy)

T.W. Richards
Chemistry 1914
Research on fixing the atomic weights of chemical elements

Also, the following presidents have attended Harvard (ctviking, I wasn't able to find one from Ohio State). Should I continue or is my point amply made?

Hmmm... One might interpret a bit of Jealously contained in your Post, concerning the fact that William and Mary, remains academically second to that of Harvard? However, i do agree with a marginal amount of your Post, but disagree with your overall assessment, due to the fact, William and Mary can also be considered an "Elite" school of higher learning. Harvard does get more attention however, kudos to you my friend, as an Alum of William an Mary, the school that gave us Thomas Jefferson... a true genius.. Lol i now see that you may have opened a very large can of Worms..lmao

Elite institutions cannot live up to their hype, and its embarassing for them to keep trying.

JM: you appear to be missing our last President Bush from your list, also our current president from both lists.

I wonder how many investment bankers, mortgage-related executives, and other corporate executives who initiated and profited from the Great Recession, graduated from Harvard? I wonder what their 'achievements' sections read like. I'll bet Harvard isn't ashamed of what they did, too, and probably never will be.

Harvard has plenty of graduates who are criminals. They're just embarrassed about Ted because he's the Unibomber, and not a criminal of the white collar variety.

dirp -- my bad Bush got his MBA from Harvard...

JM - James Watson may have been on the Harvard Faculty but his degrees are from Indiana and Univ of Chicago, I also would not want to claim him or Crick as a fellow alumni since they stole a whole part of what they based their research into DNA from Rosalind Franklin, it was here work that proved the double helix.

Most of the Nobel Prize winners you attribute to HArvard were faculty not holders of Harvard Degrees.

Looking at your list of Nobel Peace Prize winners - Negotiating peace in the middle east in 1950, are they going to rethink that one, since there has been no peace in the middle east for over the last hundred years. Al Gore on climate change, better revoke that one, since when we look at scientists who are not paid to sway their data, humans have very little to do with climate change, and obama, what was his for again, oh yes, he's black. Such a prestigious award.

dirp and hollykb,

You both make valid points. I only copied (hastily) the presidents who attended Harvard as undergrads. There are others who got business degrees or law degrees there too (Bush and Obama whom I left out of the list).

As to the nobel laureats, you are right. I did say they were produced by Harvard. That is inaccurate.

My larger point was that the caliber of student/faculty is what makes Harvard (and other institutions) elite. To be taught by a Nobel laureate is no small potatoes and it undermines the assertion that these schools are elite "only because they say so".

Anyway, I have no dog in this fight. My degree is from a state school in CA. I just dislike prima facie, knee jerk, ignorant statements hangem's and vikings. Genius should be celebrated not denigrated like many folks are want to do.

Since they (Harvard) now established the precedent of placing everyone in their grad book, perhaps they should list, tally how many each grad killed & maimed? For instance:

George W Bush - Iraq & Afghani conflicts - depending on how one counts - number unknown but well into the thousands?

Obama - Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen - depending on how one counts - number unknown but well into the thousands?

Ted Kasinski - less than 20?

etc... etc...

bryan,

I'm sure that you can find my point in my posts above if you are sharp and perceptive enough. I encourage you to read the entire thread to gain some context.

Kaczynski for V.P. Candidate at the summer convention!!!!!

@JM: except the Ivy League institutions have already admitted many times over the years that you won't get a better education and it's more about the name.

Incidentally, did you ever have teacher include examples in a lecture to demonstrate how a concept works? There was a Boston Globe article out recently: Harvard science professors just learned - this year, in fact - that it not only works best, but they need to be doing it as well. Their usual methodology of long droning lectures doesn't lead to any real-world understanding of the concepts. Harvard had to hire outside consultants to teach the amazed staff what most others teachers (even at the grade school level) have known for years. One professor was even incredulous when he realized students weren't taking anything way from his classes.

Bizzer...happy at least a couple of people have some brains in here. The sad thing is....you can't convince the mindless public no matter how good your evidence is. People believe what they have been trained to believe since an early age.

They had to illicit a response from HIM. I wonder what they were thinking ... or not. Maybe it was a joke and they thought the yearbook committee would never hear from him. Well it backfired.

They should apologize for al gore.

Peanut: We're still waiting from that apology from your Mom for foisting you upon the world.

Did anyone actually read "1984". Big Brother liked to reinvent history by Erasing things that were unpleasant. I don't want that kind of correctness just because it brings up terrible memories. That is exactly why we should publicize, publicize, publicize so everyone knows. Yes, he went to Harvard, so what.

“Kaczynski is a con artist. He’s a serial killer; he’s a murderer ... Everything is a game for him to push people’s buttons.” and I see that he's done exactly that.

exactly!!!

Exactly. We have an obligation to keep him in the light. We can't sweep him away and hope another man of his nature won't arise. It makes no sense at all to think that we can just forget these guys and everything will be ok.

Like: Al Gore - Invented the Internet. Won presidential election.

Bwahaaahaaahaaaa!!!!!

Funny. I work, and have worked with a lot of Harvard guys who could fit that description. Not all. Not even a significant percentage. But, certainly some.

Hey Mike,

Just so I'm clear, if a family member of your's had been blown up by Ted, I would expect you to just "get over the past". Right?

Hey Cinnamon12, were any of the victims' family members a part of the Harvard graduating class of '62? Then why should it matter to them that he hasn't been stricken from their records? Then again, why should it matter to you either?

What he did was wrong. No doubt about it. However he graduated from Harvard and because of this he deserves to be in it. He killed 3 people. Injured over twenty. Is this right? Hecks no. I can think of soo many other murderers that have done so much worse. Ted was brilliant. You can't just erase that. He went a nuts which is unfortunate because if he stayed "sane" he could have had an amazing creature. I do feel really bad for the people he injured or killed. What he did was horrible and wrong and shouldn't happen but because of this you cant just pretend he didn't do some memorable things besides trying to blow people up. Harvard is a great accomplisment like all Ivy League schools. That dosent make other schools less but they are some of the best.

Hey Bryan,

You missed the point. I am responding to the "just get over the past part". Have you ever lost someone to murder or terrorism? I have, and guess what, you don't just get over it. That's why it matters to me dimwit.

Computers just know the facts. They - as of now -mostly do not think right or wrong. Just tell it who went to school and when and it will try to contact them. People should not be left out just because they do not respond. All students should be listed. So, some may just have unknown after their names. But, the names should be there.......

But OK if you are Harvard Graduate OBUmmer right?

More exists on Kaczynski at Harvard than OBUmmer!

Jello Heads!

@sloppy joe- God your comments are stupid.

What's next, dis-enrolling everyone who is unemployed from the roster?

Harvard can use means-testing for inclusion in their reunion book. Sort out the riff-raff.

Mario They can't do that there would be no one left>

Gene -

Means-testing is, "Can you pay this large special fee for us to include you?"

Enough Harvard Grads will pay the fee, but not all; thus eliminate the riff-raff.

No dilemma. My neighbor went to Central High School. He is a nut like you and your neighbor.

To use a cute but common quote, "Its the same only different!"

There is way more on him than OBummer at Havard!

Jello Heads!

Ahhhh! "The Hero of Chappaquidick!" I had almost forgotten.

Exactly, Justa. For all the grousing on these comments about what is, and what is not news, it seems you have hit it perfectly. Would it, for example, have been any more or less newsworthy if the Harvard reunions committee had intentionally deleted this member of the class of '62?

Once caught, he confessed so he would not be subjected to mental health testing. He had an extremely horrific incident in an educational study while at Havard, at the age of 16.

His actions point to a person who was severely mentally ill. His genius and his handlers at Harvard were more interested in what he could do to bring prestige to the school then looking at the whole person and seeing a young man in severe mental distress.

Back then there was no lithium, Prozac, Effexor or whatever might have helped him become an asset to humanity instead of being despised.

To those who are so flip in their postings....have you ever taken the time to read any papers he's written?

And who of us at age 16, would like to have have been some experiment because of your genius?

He needed mental health intervention and never got it. Shame on Harvard.

Besides, if he hadn't filled out the questionair and Harvard hadn't published it, we wouldn't be having this very pleasant conversation.

JustaMom,

You write as though his crimes were some sort of business deal. The words "obligation" and "fulfilled", are usually used in contracts, not associated with being convicted of killing people using explosives. Not saying he shouldn't be in the listing, but don't minimize what he did or ignore the insensitivity to the victims families.

Cinnamon12 are you saying that when you are convicted and punished for your wrong doing that no matter what it should haunt you for the rest of your life. I personally don't see anything wrong with what Justamom said. You are the one that has taken a problem with legalese of the situation. I am further willing to bet that if He, Charles Manson, John Wayne Gacey or any number fo other convicted killers were up for parole you wouldn't be there to project you feeling and emotions to prevent them from being released. There are hundreds of convicted killers out of our prisons walking our streets right now but their victims have to deal with it. Really no difference. After all the school asked he responded and they published.

Gene,

You missed the point, and that's not what I said. But you know that already. And yes, in the case of serial killers, it should haunt you for the rest of your life. Glad to know everything is so black and white for you. Hope you never who have to deal with it, I truly do. Your callousness would evaporate, I assure you. I know from first hand experience, before you throw it back in my face.

Last month Mr. Manson declined to show up for his parole hearing. He correctly thought it a waste of time.

How many such achievements, and publications do you claim, sloppyjoe? Just trying to guage the legitimacy of such well founded criticism.

NO ONE remembers OBummer. Not one classmate can say he left dirty laundry in the dorm or uneaten sandwiches or he was on my debate team. Not a single classmate at Harvard!

Editor of the Harvard Law Review and NOT ONE published article and not a single classmate can even remember him in class.......

But they remember Kaczynski from 50 years ago!

Jello heads!

I don't care if you are a dem or repub, but you are an American. And as an American, you should show respect to the person who holds the title of POTUS. His name is Obama, not Obummer. Do I agree or like him as our POTUS? Not one bit. But, will I disrespect the office and what it stands for? And the fact that he did get elected? No. Show some respect. Don't disrespect the president no matter what your views are.

sadly, most people do not understand the content of your statements.

He may not be the president you wanted but he IS president.

Respect the office, hence the man.

And no one remembers seeing GWB fighting the Vietnam War in Alabama. Wonder if Yale will include that mass murderer in his 50th year reunion edition.

um, what?

Monad stated:

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Respect the office, hence the man.

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That is not logical, Monad! The President may have to be

saluted by the U.S. military members, but he need NOT

be respected. His respect has to be earned.

Mugtech - we will have to wait and see his Yale 50th would be in 2018.

This is the worst comment page of all. Way worse than Yahoo or bing. This comment page does not let you thumbs down. It tells you that comments were collapsed by the community and there is no way to collapse a comment unless you are the moderator. This is really the most one sided of all comment pages. MSN is WAY worse than Yahoo, but not quite as bad as FOX.

By respect do you mean bow down and never question? Because that sounds like something a subject would do to their king.

As nicely as I can possibly put it, and with all due respect, the word "allot" basically means to apportion something to someone as a share. Also, had you used this instead, there is no such word as alot.

In the context of what you wrote, the word(s) you are supposed to be using are a pair of separate words: a lot.

Agghhh. Please, before you try to use allot/alot/a lot again, ready this:

If nothing else it will make you laugh.

Know-it-all grammar nazis, gotta love 'em.

Leap Frog, I hope I'm not on your mailing list.