Well said, exactly what I first thought. They could add no "protective custody" so the other inmates can show the pedifiles what it feels like from the other end. It would not take 33 years if they let nature take it's course..........

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I will not mourn him.

I concur.

Only problem I have is the writer's/editor's inability to do simple math:

He was pronounced dead at 4:20 p.m. local time (8.20 p.m. ET) on Sunday ...

Should have read 4:20 p.m. local or PT (7:20 p.m. ET) on Sunday ...

Why is the death penalty so expensive? Because we have allowed it to become so.... Why not simplify and streamline the appeals process and then carry out the sentence. This man's crime was in 1979, for crying out loud. It's no wonder the death penalty is not considered a deterrent.... By the time a criminal is put to death, few even remember the crime!

Bruce he was sentenced in 2004 to death. He wasn't caught for years.

I totally agree, Georgieboy. One less monster in the world. It won't bring back the children he tortured and brutally killed, but, the world is a better place now that this monster is no longer alive. At least he went out in a more violent way by hanging than by just having a shot in his arm. In California though, doubt that he would have even made it to that point.

Bruce, and the fact that some death row inmates were later found innocent based on new investigation/evidence does not bother you one bit ?

But Bruce brings up a valid point, which is these damned lawyers pushing these death-row cases on and on and on in the courts. They, and they alone are the reason putting a criminal to death is so bloody costly and time consuming. They like to drag it out forever, not because they necessarily believe their client is innocent, but because they have guaranteed income for years while they play their never ending habeus corpus games, and it's all on our dime.

Death penalty cases, by their very nature, should not be expensive, but get a lawyer involved and it will drag out for years at taxpayer expense which is a bunch of bullsnot. They'll make sure of it by going over the case looking for so much as a typo to keep dragging the case back into the courts. Enough is enough for God's sake. It's not as if there aren't hundreds of cases waiting to take their place, but these attorneys want to drag it out forever, clogging the courts with old cases that have already been heard and adjudicated. Move on to the next case for the benefit of our society as a whole, and let us get rid of these rabid animals.

No, I'm not concerned about a condemned man being put to death and feeling a few moments of discomfort or even outright pain, just as that same condemned person didn't give a fat baby's a$$ about the horror and pain they were making their victims feel in their last moments, as far as I'm concerned what goes around comes around. They wanted to commit their horrible atrocities on innocent people, they did commit said acts so I don't see what they're whining about - they got what they were working so hard to get, they don't get to complain now, when they've earned their rewards. If somebody sows horror and pain and God knows what else, they should reap the reprisals and not ask us to feel pity for them since they didn't have it for their victims.

I am so sick of defense attorneys asking us to not be harsh to their clients, asking us to instead take into account their client's bad background. There are thousands of us who grew up in bad backgrounds. According to the statistics I should be a hooker or an alcoholic/junkie, dead from my abuser, or in prison from finally snapping, myself. Instead, I am a disabled vet who has never beaten a child in my life...so much for statistics.

"There is a price to the passage of life, and regardless of what's happened to each of us in the past, part of that price is responsibility for our actions in the present." John Douglas, FBI (ret)

Personally I don't like the death penalty. But anyone who commits this kind of crime needs to know they have sacrificed their right to be in society by their actions. I would rather see them put into a cell, the door WELDED shut, and never be allowed to leave that cell again. They should get food, water, a new change of clothes once a year and that's all. No TV, no radio, no mail, no visitors, and no one to talk to for the rest of their murderous life. If they trash or flood their cell, it stays that way until they clean it up. They need to live with the consequences of their chosen actions.

There are a lot more guilty walking free than innocent in prison. If you ask them they are all innocent. We have allowed bottom feeder lawyers a lifetime of income by them appealing for decades. These murderers are nothing but cowards who didn't care about their victims but expect society to care how they pay for their crimes. They should be allowed one appeal then if they want to continue then either their families pay or they get what they deserve sooner.

@ Elizabeth

I've been thinking about what you said about lawyers and asking myself why do they do this even when they know their client is guilty of a horrific crime. It all boils down to money. When the lawyers can stretch the case out for years and years, they get rich, usually from taxpayer money. They file a couple of papers once or twice a year and bill the state for hundreds of hours of "research". It reminds of the old joke about lawyers:

Why does New Jersey have the most toxic waste dumps and California have the most lawyers?

Because New Jersey got first pick.

Thank you, Bruce. If someone commits a heinous crime for which they are sentenced to death, it no longer poses a threat to them! What's the saying, three hots and a cot? Prison has come a long way because suddenly it's a crime to mistreat the rights of the criminals who have given up their right to live open and free in society because they saw fit to hurt/kill another human being. Inmates are given books, jobs, some even internet access. It's not supposed to be a comfortable experience. It's called PRISON for a reason. And yes, I know that people are exonerated after 20 years or so due to new DNA evidence and I'm glad that we give them back their lives and maybe possibly give the family of the victim absolute closure, but for those who did commit the crime, unequivocally, there should be a statute on the number of years/number of appeals they can have before they're put to death as ordered by the judge that tried their case. They shouldn't be let to live in a semi-comfortable prison cell for 30 years because it costs so much taxpayer money to go through with the execution. I say, let more states re-open the firing squad option if they have enough inmates who request it. A bullet costs, what, 33 cents? What's going to be the cost of life in prison for all these inmates when the death penalty is taken off the table? I'd be willing to be that it costs more to keep a man in jail for 60 years than to move him off of death row and out of society for good.

I agree with Georgie Boy. You could offer a bonus for the suicide thatmdecreases each year after sentence. Money to go to the estate after the suicide. It would save tax-payers millions and let the creep do some good with his life.

For those that say the death penalty is glorifying death by taking a life as payment for their crime(s). I think it is the contrary. I think because we value life we deem the punishment for taking a life as giving up your own. The deterrent effect is not as much of a factor as the point that if caught for a severe enough level of homicide, you forgo your right to life.

Regardless of the debate of amount of deterrence based on a crime, there will always be people willing to accept the risk based on the "reward".

Marty, re: your comment 1.11, the first people who would complain about removing tv and radio from the prisons would be the guards. Anyone familiar with the inner workings of a prison will tell you that without tv and radio, prison would be a much more dangerous place for the guards.

As for this myth that defense attorneys are getting rich doing death penalty work, I really don't know where this idea comes from, but I can promise you it isn't true. There are 3 kinds of lawyers handling these cases: staff public defenders, private attorneys who are appointed by the court, and attorneys working pro bono. Obviously the pro bono lawyers aren't getting rich as they're doing the work for free. Staff public defenders don't get paid exorbitant salaries. They generally make less than prosecutors and are among the lowest paid government attorneys. As for the private attorneys working on appointment, the appointment rate is generally so low, the take home pay is less than what the staff pds make.

People who do this work don't do it for money. They do it because they believe in the work. They believe that the state should not be in the business of killing people. They turn over every stone and analyze every typo because they're trying to save lives. At least, that's why I do it. And believe me, I could be making a LOT more money practicing just about any other kind of law.

The liberal judges keep blocking these executions because the protocol being used might cause the Convict to suffer pain, give me a break! What did the victim suffer? Change the protocol and give the convict a shot of Propofol, he'll be unconscious in less than 15 seconds, then the final dose.
I like the old Judge Roy Bean attitude, "if you aren't guilty why are you here?"

I've been thinking about what you said about lawyers and asking myself why do they do this even when they know their client is guilty of a horrific crime. It all boils down to money.

Maybe they do it because it's their job? If a lawyer didn't give their client the best possible defense regardless if they knew he was guilty or not you'd be complaining that they were lazy and negligent.

I don't have any sympathy for the idiot that hung himself, but how many people do you think falsely confess to crimes every year? Frankly I don't know how someone could live with themselves if someone they sentenced to death turned out to be innocent.

I like the old Judge Roy Bean attitude, "if you aren't guilty why are you here?"

That sounds like something a communist would say.

This guy hung himself and though his guilt was an adjudication on the books, the true events are only known to him and went with him. And speaks volumes to that adjudication.

As for the rest of you that want to lam-bast the length of the appeals process, pontificate about how to judge persons more efficiently "if you were on the bench". Before you elevate yourselves to "mob rule," consider the fact ever sense DNA testing was available, in the USA, 41.2% of the persons on death row have been exonerated of those crimes. That is more than a third of people wrongly convicted.

Every one of the suggestions here to "improve" the system of killing that I read (and I read them all) would only increase that percentage.

As an American are you proud of that record? . . . . Honestly?

While I like the 6 foot of rope suggestions, I think the following idea is better as this country needs the money to pay off the national debt.

I suggest a federal / state lottery program for all death row inmates.

1st, once found guilty, all guilty persons to get one and only one appeal.

Then a lottery is created to determine who gets to flip the switch on the electric chair.

Also, pay per view is sceduled to show the electification of the guilty person.

I'd pay to have the privaledge of flipping the switch.

Of course a piece of lead in the head would be much quicker.

Make my day!

Considering how many death row inmates have recently be set free because DNA evidence vindicated them, I think it's good to be VERY cautious when sending the guilty to die.

We know that Blacks are far more likely to be given the death penalty, even when a white person commits the same crime. So, the death penalty is a failed experiment.

I have no idea why we waste so much money on pedophile child killers, especially nowadays. DNA, pictures, trophies, all of that that proves, without doubts, that a person has done that to a child, and is found guilty, no prison sentence! Take them out back and hang them. Even if they didn't kill the child, baby rapers should be put to death, anyway.

The death penalty is supposed to be a deterrent to heinous crimes. It doesn't work that way because many wait 20-30 years before the sentence is carried out, so it is basically just a long prison sentence. We already have that and it doesn't work to deter people from murdering someone. If irrefutable evidence is shown in court, a death sentence should be carried out immediately. That will quickly put an end to most murders because people will think more about the consequences of their actions. No one really fears prison, which is why they are so many of them, and they are all overcrowded.

This man's crime was in 1979, for crying out loud. It's no wonder the death penalty is not considered a deterrent.... By the time a criminal is put to death....

Thank you Bruce. This is what I said yesterday. The death penalty is a deterrent only if used immediately.

If it was up to me the law would read:

With 100% evidence that said person committed a murder said person WILL be executed within six months after receiving the death penalty sentence.

33 Years?????? And! AND!! AND!!! It STILL was NOT time for califarcia state to Whack him??!!!?!!! This guy was an out and out Monster, like Bundy, But Fla finally got it together and electrocuted him. In califarcia, All matters are subject to the bureaucratic food trough; Who can get more pay and/or benefits from the criminal's situation. This guy was a living bureau food chain; from the cops to the "corrections officers" who make as much as $200,000 p/year. everything legal/judicial has $Value for these califarcia politico honchos; they think in terms of "How much will this guy make for ME??!!??" And people wonder why caliFARCIA is $16Billion in the RED and preying on citizens here with every legal and ticket scam imaginable to get money to pay for these politicos and their Insane spending sprees; How About GUARANTEED College education, Books, Room and Board, Food, Travelling and spending money expenses for Illegals coming across the border, For FREE to the Illegal! Pretty Nutzi Huh???!!??? that is why this guy did not get whacked; He was WAY To valuable to the Politicos and Bureaucrats ALIVE.....

Thank you Bruce. This is what I said yesterday. The death penalty is a deterrent only if used immediately.

I'll make you a deal. We speed up executions, but if it turns out someone who was executed was really innocent, we put the jurors responsible on death row for murder.

@Georgieboy-2814956 - Even as a liberal, I completely agree with you. Then perhaps only the ones who are actually innocent might try to hang on until a break occurs.

PhantomBeast,

Do you realize he was not convicted till 2004? He was not in prison since 1979 "feeding the trough" as you lam-bast.

CALIFORNIA is the proper spelling of that state. We all know how you don't like that entire state. But, California is the 7th largest economy in the world. IF California wanted to engage in economic war fare on your state, you would be squashed like a bug. But they don't do anything to your state that your state doesn't already allow.

For the most part, Californian's mind their own business, don't muscle their views on anyone and they "know how to drive a freaking car" unlike the drivers in this country, especially here in the Communist state of Washington.

I've been to California, which is pretty nice. I've also been to Lousy-anna, Flori-dumb, Okla-homo, George-ass, Arkan-crap and Tex-ass, all which totally blow.

Agreed. Good riddance to this waste of carbon and drag on society.

Sad that the taxpayers of CA footed the bill for his existence for the last 33 years.

@Me 1176621

If you would have read my post, I was referring to persons already convicted of capital murder, and in this case multiple child murders. I said to not allow them to have a TV or radio, etc, once their cell door was WELDED shut. They aren't a danger to anyone if they can't get out. A solid wall and a solid door with a drop shoot to put in a sack lunch daily isn't a danger to anyone.

As soon as I started reading your post I knew you were an attorney patting yourself on the back for protecting murderers and rapists from evil society trying to make them answer for their decisions and actions. They don't need protection from society, its the other way around. If they have been convicted, with DNA proof, trophies, witness statements, forensics, etc. there is no doubt they did it, but the appeal attorney is still there trying to get the killers and rapists set free. And if they do, do they want the guy moving in next door to them? No, their guarded gated community won't allow that, they move in next door to everyone else. Attorneys are some of the biggest scammers out there, (and its no surprise most politians in Congress are attorney too) willing to sell their souls for fame and cash, and proud they have set killers free.

Hey, San Quentin and ALL OTHER PRISONS IN THE UNITED STATES ----- There should be NO television, NO weight room, NO commissary (food, etc.) facilities, NO library, NO books magazines or other reading material than any ONE religious book of the prisoner's choice. The cells should be 4' x 8' , with just enough room for a bunk, sink and toilet. Communications should be limited to ONE LETTER each way, per month. This will allow the inmate adequate time to contemplate his deeds which landed him in prison in the first place. Someone mentioned a short piece of rope and a hook to be used for immediate dispatch should the prisoner feel the urge. Good. Other than that added convenience, the prisoners will have lots of time to reflect on their respective pasts. Should they choose to check out, well the more funds saved by the state.

Well....I just have to agree with DisabledVeteran, observer.

Secondly, I appreciate the self-justice this child molester took upon himself.

End of Story.

I just did a little math on this animal. With the trail and his incarceration he cost the tax payers of California over $750,000.00. This endless appeals crap is stupid. It would have been much cheaper and better to have exicuted this sick SOB right after the trail 2004. For all you people out there that oppose the death penalty, just imagine for a second if it was your child he raped, murdered then burned.

Society has to muster the moral conviction to rid itself of diseased creatures like this as soon as their positively identified, tried and convicted. Keeping dysfunctional humans like this alive and in a cage at a cost of $60,000 to $75,000 a year until they die makes absolutely no sense and serves no purpose.

Good Riddance to this POS to bad he didn't do it right away

Bill in Mill Creek, are you smoking crack??? The Death Penalty Info Center lists 140 death row inmates that have been exonerated since 1973 due to DNA testing. According to CNN, there are 3200 inmates CURRENTLY on death row (not the total since 1973, as many have died of natural causes and a few have actually been executed). And even that ratio is only 4.4%

heh The Golden state used to be golden now it's brown and smells like @!$%#.

Bill in Mill Creek, Cali used to be awesome but now it's completely broken and I am embarrassed to even reside in this hellish state.

A federal judge halted all California executions in 2006 after ruling that the three-drug protocol that has been used for lethal injections carried the risk of causing the inmate too much pain and suffering before death.

What about the pain and suffering done to the victims? Does the federal judges think about that when they do stuff like this. Some of these laws protecting killers really makes me sick! The death penalty was passed for a reason and it should be used! Florida and Texas are still enforcing their death sentence as the rest of the states that have it should!!!

A federal judge halted all California executions in 2006 after ruling that the three-drug protocol that has been used for lethal injections carried the risk of causing the inmate too much pain and suffering before death.

What about the pain and suffering done to the victims? Does the federal judges think about that when they do stuff like this. Some of these laws protecting killers really makes me sick! The death penalty was passed for a reason and it should be used! Florida and Texas are still enforcing their death sentence as the rest of the states that have it should!!!

A friend of my daughters was kidnapped off the street, raped brutally, killed and hidden under a school bus at the nearby school. One got life, the other got the death penalty. I worked at the prison the death penalty inmate went to. i worked in medical, and told my supervisor, "I'd be willing to put the IV in his arm." And she said, "Nope, its done by seniority and there are a lot of people ahead of you in line that have requested that job."

Do you know how an innocent person gets on death row? Because the cops investigating a notably horrible crime, very much in the news, are pressured to find SOMEONE. Anyone. They find that "someone" by whatever investigated means and arrest him. Once arrested, the DA is pressured, politically pressured, to convict him. And the public demands it, too. Everyone is FOCUSED on getting the conviction of the person arrested no matter what.

You got a guy who is charged with a death penalty crime and confesses to it, and there's little to no corroborating evidence, something ain't right.

Read John Grisham's "An Innocent Man." It's a true story and a perfect example of how this happens.

I know of a man that was convicted of a crime he didn't do. It was horrific and based on the evidence the guy should have walked. I also know the freak that committed the crime. The guy lost everything pretty much and once rapist is tied to your name your life will never be the same. He was lucky a news reported analyzed all the facts and proved he couldn't have been anywhere near the scene of the crime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_conviction_of_Steve_Titus

He died within a few years after winning a lawsuit against the state. Or in other words he got burned and then almost vidicated.

The guy that did it.

http://www.mysterycrimescene.com/predator.html

For all you people out there that oppose the death penalty, just imagine for a second if it was your child he raped, murdered then burned.

For all you people out there screaming for a quick turnaround, just imagine for a second if it was you who were facing death row for something you know you didn't commit.

Here is a scenario:

Person A murders Person B.

Person C murders Person B in retaliation for the murder of Person B.

Now, according to the philosophy of many on this vine (pro death penalty), this is justice.

However, according to the justice/penal system in this country, particularly in a state that practices capital punishment, this is vengeance, AND still a crime AND a capital offense, likely to carry the death penalty, in and of itself.

My query is this:

How is that ANY DIFFERENT from a case in which the state commits the vindicating murder?

Contemplate what the true meaning of justice is, relative to the meaning of vengeance. The two, I assure you, are very different. That is perhaps why, when murderers are convicted, facing the death penalty, there are many times families of the victims that will plead with the courts for the death penalty to not be applied. I have to wonder how many of you pro state murder advocates will casually refer to yourselves as "Christians." Personally, I have no religion, but believe in the sanctity of life; you know... that whole "Thou shalt not kill" thing. Honestly, it isn't "Thou shalt not kill unless..."

Here is a rephrasing of the "golden rule" as I like to think of it: "Do not do unto others as you would have them not do unto you."

murdereres protected from just punishment by liberal judges!

Were you one of the "good christians" applauding the Texas execution rate at the GOP debates??

I was.

WHILLIAM OF RITES......have you gone through the pain of a child-parent abducted,molestaed and than burned his body to charchol..........if you have ....than you should be a good human being ,a good parent and a "good Christian " applauding the execution rate . Think before attacking and put those parents shoes on and feel like you should feel in that situation.....

bambi@12

Think before attacking and put those parents shoes on and feel like you should feel in that situation.....

er2cc

I was.

You can have all the vengeance and bloodlust you want, go for it.

Just try to stay on topic and explain how those actions are congruent with the teachings of "Christ" which not by coincidence has the same first 6 letters of "Christian".

William: yes, I was. Texas, and a handful of other states, at least serve justice to some of those monsters it is possible to catch and judge. Most of other states just offer murderers three hot and a cot for the rest of their lives - and sometimes even release them back into society.

William:

Christ said "Give to Ceasar what belongs to Ceasar". State (or government if you prefer) has to serve earthly justice - and when a murder (not a manslaugter, but full scale murder) is committed, justice means executing the murderer. But because of liberal judges sabotaging the law by all kind of technical tricks more and more murderers are not punished as they should be - and this is a great evil! And therefore it is a rather joyful occasion when a monster takes care of the business by himself...

Hey William, I'm not a Christian and I say let child molesters burn. How about them apples?

I'm really sick of jerks like you trying to pin everything on Christians. Nice how you couldn't answer to bambi there either. Shows how shallow of a person you are.

Just try to stay on topic and explain how those actions are congruent with the teachings of "Christ" which not by coincidence has the same first 6 letters of "Christian".

"On topic"? How is your religion on topic? This is an article about the death penalty and has nothing to do with your religion.

Perhaps in your world everything is about some mythical guy in the sky, but not everyone's is. So how about YOU try to stay on topic and leave the Jesus nonsense out of the equation.

I say let the child molesters bun as well... the only problem is that innocent people are executed all the time and that is a problem.

If there is a solid link through DNA evidence to a murder, child molestation, etc... then I say take them out in the yard and shoot them. No appeals, no plea bargains, just a bullet.

Otherwise, we need to stop jumping the gun with these executions. Half the people in the justice system seem to work as far outside the law as some of these criminals.

maciej, he was speaking of money in that parable, not death. The thing that gets me about people are they will rally and protest an abortion clinic, but praise a state sanctioned murder. Oh yes and Mitt for 2012... conservative here.

William:

Christ said "Give to Ceasar what belongs to Ceasar". State (or government if you prefer) has to serve earthly justice - and when a murder (not a manslaugter, but full scale murder) is committed, justice means executing the murderer

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Wow, now I know I am dealing with a conservative. You are totally and completely wrong about your (misquoted) verse. Killing and judgement were up to God, not man, that is the meaning of that verse.

Let's see just exactly what Jesus meant by "the things which are Caesar's" when he said: "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's"

The Pharisees wanted to trap Jesus. They were the teachers of the Law, and knew full well what God's word says about laws and governments other than God's. The Pharisees knew ALL of the following:

They knew that even their own Israelite kings could not make any law, but could only administer God's Law, not Turing aside from the commandment, to the right hand, or to the left:

DocS, I'd agree with you 100% that they need to ensure that they have the right person. I agree that it's better to have 100 criminals roam free than to have a single innocent person jailed/executed.

Ummmm Docs......

Otherwise, we need to stop jumping the gun with these executions.

exactly how is 33 years of appeals, and 6 years of halted executions "jumping the gun"? over 700, sitting on Death row? time to UN-appoint some judges and get the ball rolling. There is no "painless death" That being said, consider the pain the VICTIMS suffered when THEY died.. A little fire in the veins is fitting prelude to where they are going.

I don't think the government should be in the business of killing people.

But if a child molester/rapist should take his own life....I have no problem whatsoever

William, you have no reason to bash Christians here. It's not just Christians who would want to see the death penalty continue. Take your trolling and shove it. And how about getting out of the basement where you spit hatred and bigotry all the time through the anonymity of a computer screen and experiencing something new...it's called "daylight." I know it's really scary to actually do something that doesn't require diarrhea of the mouth and proving your stupidity and blind prejudice, but give it a shot.

I have dealt with Christians my whole life. My mother was the only one I have known who actually knew what the bible meant and kept things in context. MacieJ, you can't just pluck a verse out and use it for your own purposes when that isn't what was meant in the bible. This is why I think all religions need to end because most people aren't bright enough to handle it and will twist the words to use for their own purposes.Saffie, William did not make a personal attack on you, but you made one on him because you had nothing left to add to the conversation. Enoughnowpeople, he was sentenced to death in 2004, he wasn't caught for many years so he didn't have 33 years of appeals.

William, this guy was a repeat offender! Back home he would have been beheaded in public the day after his sentence and his body would have been crucified afterwards, are you kidding me!!!!! He's a piece of filth, no more.

I believe what William is trying to say is that organized religion is defunctional, biased, corrupt, and just plain irrational and wrong, he just didn't want to be blunt about it, so I'll help him out. If that is his point, then he would be absolutely correct. Saffie: he's not a bigot or blindly prejudiced, I mean he may be in a basement, but that's not our concern and quite prejudiced itself, making you a hypcrite. He's probably just too smart for his own good and frustrated at the same time, and this is one way he deals with it, at least that's how I am, but, maybe he's just trolling, who knows you can't tell online. Regardless, although the point being made is kind of absurd in this situation because we're dealing with a pedophile here, the point was made nonetheless. So here are the facts. The bible is a book, created by human beings, filled with stories of fantastic events in which we have no reason to believe actually happened because there is no evidence that the things in and the things that took place within the bible could have actually happened based on what we know about the world today, and taking into consideration the fact that people were a lot less intelligent way back when, these stories are most likely completely made up and possibly even drug-induced seeing how no one knew anything about drugs back then. Basically, we need to pour out our cups, let go of these absurd and archaic biased beliefs equivalent to fairy tales, and re-think and evaluate exactly what it means to be a rational and reasonable human being. We do not and cannot know if a God exists, or at least we do not have the capability to perceive anything like that knowingly, and until or if we ever do, we are not in a position to pretend like we know things and are better than everyone else just to absolve our pathetic insecurities, because pretending just breeds ignorance, bigotry, and needless controversy. This man, this pedophile, and people like him, do not deserve to live, in this case he not only corrupted the lives on innocent children but also killed. His right to live vanished when he took an innocents life, not even taking into account the innocence he corrupted, and this judgment is not Gods will because no one "knows" what God's will is, this is the will of a rational and reasonable human being without fear for something floating in the heavens. Try thinking some more instead of rambling. Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and just listen, or learn first, but hey this is a free country, you can do whatever and believe in whatever you want, but, just because you can think, do, or say something doesn't mean you shouldn't think about it first. Alright, this is already too long, so have at it.

" I agree that it's better to have 100 criminals roam free than to have a single innocent person jailed/executed."

hmmm, interesting. But epic fail. So you rather have 100 victims than 1 innocent person jailed/executed. You are sick. I rather have 1 mistake rather than 100 mistakes. You sir are the reason, criminals are not afraid to be criminals.

WilliamOfRites - So how do you reconcile the muderers fitting in the the teachings of "christ"? Because they may have "sinned" we should just ignore it and give them a scolding and a pat on the back as we send them on their way - confident that they won't be repeat offenders?

Basing a set of beliefs on a book that was written, translated, edited, revised, rewritten, paraphrased, etc. by man hundreds of years after some mythical being left the scene is a little tenuous. But if it makes you able to rationalize your inability to understand - have at it. But being "christian" isn't any better than being a member of any other god-fearing sect.

Here's my beef against the death penalty: If your're wealthy enough you stand a decent chance of buying your way out of the hangman's noose. Some poor SOB might get stuck with some crapa$$ court-appointed attorney whose goal might be to file the paperwork and move on to his next client. And at least when it comes to something so final as death, you'd hope the scales of justice would sway even from one man to the next. As to this particular case, I shed no tears this man is gone.

Use your brain please, you said it way better then I ever could. I'm going to forward your words to make a point about the silliness that is religion. It's just another money making venture that uses peoples fears of a higher power to part them of their money.

@thepunisher-2054749 - and you'd stick to that viewpoint (#2.19) even if the innocent person being executed were you, yes?

BP the grape:

"It's just another money making venture that uses peoples fear of a higher power to part them of their money."

Same could be said of the government & the IRS...

Why screw with the middleman... let's just hang Liberal judges....

exactly how is 33 years of appeals, and 6 years of halted executions "jumping the gun"? over 700, sitting on Death row? time to UN-appoint some judges and get the ball rolling. There is no "painless death" That being said, consider the pain the VICTIMS suffered when THEY died.. A little fire in the veins is fitting prelude to where they are going.

The point was that after all that, innocent people are STILL being executed. A victim's pain is not going to be eased nor that of their family when a person who didn't commit a crime against them is executed. All that does is bring more pain to the family of that who was executed..

Where do the 140 exonerated innocents fit into the swift execution plan ? beween those 140 they averaged 9.5 years on death row . Im all for executing the guilty , but if we cant decide whos guilty and whos innocent 100% of the time then the system sucks .

Genesis 9:6 Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man.

Matthew 5:17 (Jesus) Don't misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law. No, I came to accomplish their purpose.

In Acts 25:11 (apostle Paul) "For if I be an offender, or have committed any thing worthy of death, I refuse not to die."

Revelation 13:10 (new testament) "he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword."

My Point exactly. Let the creep suffer. I am of the Jewish and the way we excuted teh death penalty during the days of Moses works for me. Otherwise a bullet to the back of the head. I'll even provide the gun, bullet, and pull the trigger. The victim's family is more important then this creep. Let this guy BURN!!

Sorry for the misspellings!

The didn't identify the body until 1996 and he wasn't convicted until 2004. It says so in the article. Well at least California doesn't have to foot the bill for this azzhole anymore and the childs mother and father will have a very small bit of peace knowing their child's murderer is dead and in hell where he belongs.

The justice system here in the US is crazy. It shouldn't take 10-15 years of appeals to have a death row inmate put to death. Even though there have been men/women on death row that have been found to be innocent the majority are guilty as charged. At most one appeal should be given and then send them to hell.

They should keep in mind that keeping an innocent person in jail for 20 years is extremely traumatic. There's no guarantee that they'll exit with a normal state of mind. While it's bad to execute innocents, that's a fault of the justice system, not the death penalty.

No mom of three they should bury them up to their shoulders and stone them as soon as a guilty verdict is read. I am against sanctioned murders period, how many men and women have the use of DNA proved innocent. My answer "TOO MANY". Lets pray you are never accused of anything and get sentenced to death, your wishes may be your worst nightmares.

@WeAllHaveOpinions - If you believe in god, than it doesn't matter right? He would say, "well they made a mistake, now you can live happily in heaven." So no worries if some innocent person was wrongly accused and executed. Besides, what are the numbers of innocent people on death row 1% - 2% my guess.

@WeAllHaveOpinions... I understand where you are coming from with the proven innocent thing and I think it's horrible that that happens. But on the other side, if you are guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, like we just found 5 bodies in your basement and they all have your DNA in them guilty, then yea, bury and stone 'em, why let them sit and rot and waste taxpayer money with years and years of useless appeals?

Vengeance=Justice?

Who are you people, and where do you come up with this kind of tripe?

Don't worry - there is some 'banger out on the streets that can't wait to fill the now-empty cot.

So after 33 years Cummel was never found "innocent." And it's okay with you that his family continued to live with their pain caused by this brutal child killer heinously taking the life of their INNOCENT child for 33 frickin' years??

And what would you suggest we do with animals like Crummel?

Name one documented case, where an innocent person was executed.

There are definitely cases. However, few innocent people would want to be imprisoned for 20 years, and those who survive may not exit with a nice state of mind. The way I see it, it's nothing more than an argument for a more reliable judicial process.

Name one documented case, where an innocent person was executed.

Larry Griffin

Troy Davis

David Wayne Spense

Leo Jones

Gary Graham

Cameron Todd Willingham

Lena Baker...

enough?

Sam don't question such, do a little research. I typed in google, people exonerated after execution and it spit out 12 automatically. Now wasn't too long a guy in Cleveland on death row for rape and murder. DNA found him innocent after 23 years of his life taken from him. Let me reassure you the criminal justice system is corrupt, it is all about money who can afford the best of attorneys. Oh the court system is such a lucrative business. You have more faith in it than I ever would.

I've agree that the criminal justice system does need fixing, however. The process usually takes 20 years, and if there is evidence of innocence, it usually come up within that 20 or so years. I'm not saying that it is fair, but it is what it is. There have been assumptions, innuendo, and I have been following this type of argument for the past 40 years.

There have been cases where they thought maybe an innocent was executed, however, web sites aren't concrete proof.

I am for the death penalty only when there is absolute proof that the person being executed is guilty. Either by admission, and/or irrefutable physical evidence (smoking gun).

What are the percentage? I rather see a 2% mistake of wrongly convicted than a 98% mistake of letting criminals go free. Which would you rather have? Before you start saying what if it was you who were being wrongly convicted. My answer, highly doubted that, first you have to be in the right place at the right time to be accused. Second, don't surround yourself with crazies, and third, death is not the worst that can happen.

Fortunately, not only does DNA provide innocents an avenue of conviction reversal, it's a nearly airtight case against the guilty... they find your DNA on five different victims... unless you're all of them's hairdresser, you're toast

I would rather see a THOUSAND guilty go free than one innocent be executed.

Tom, you answered you own question in your first sentence. To save money. It is costing them a lot more for the death penalty than just life without parole in prison.

I'm not sure about Texas being sane, but the rest of your post (i.e. 95% of it) is absolutely spot-on.

Brother you hit the mark. A movies or pictures or something should be created of the crimes some of these monsters commit and than shown on TV in these liberal states or want to get rid of the death penalty.

Oh, like the states with no death penalty, whose murder rates are LOWER?... Those states? Or other states?