Well said Wichasha - Get that child out of that mothers hands as quickly as possible, and give him to a loving home, that will care for him the way he deserves.

And there are responsible couples who can't have children and you have these type that have no business with them. I believe her jail time in the AZ tent city will be hot this time of year and well deserved........

A lot of people believe smoking weed is OK and there are no consequences. Wrong!

Arizona has approved Weed for medicinal purposes, Hmmm.

Between Florida and Arizona I don't know which one is worst on child stories. I am glad the baby is okay, but as heavy as baby seats are, how could someone put it on the roof. I mean those car seats are heavy without the kid, so why would you put it on the roof. I know I couldn't even reach the roof with one of those. I am not a weak person either, I am short.

how can she not see it? as big as it is. Unless it was a darker color, or her car was in a poorly lit area. She did return to the "scene of the crime." surprised she was able to retrace her steps. They got a "2 fer 1" with the boyfriend. NOTHING can beat the NY story where some gang members bragged on FB about stealing and then "friended" a cop. PRICELESS.

Absolutely priceless. Of course none of you get the parallel with the Coen Brothers movie Raising Arizona. Even now I can see John Goodman and William Forsythe looking at each and screaming, and then Goodman shouting at Forsythe, "YOU NEVER LEAVE A MAN BEHIND!"

ALCOHOL is worse than pot, it is readily available and has caused far more than one situation like this where a child is in danger, yet it is taxed and legal.

Stoner movies aren't as funny when it is real. I'm not against pot, I'm against immature girls having babies.

Another welfare "entitlement" mom. Your hard earned tax dollars at work. Disgusting.

How do you know she's on welfare? It didn't say that in the story, so you're just assuming? I think it's safe to assume that she's a moron.

Young, unmarried, uneducated....wanna make a bet? I will win.

How do you know she's on welfare? It didn't say that in the story, so you're just assuming? I think it's safe to assume that she's a moron.

I think it is pretty safe to say a 19 year old unmarried pot smoking moron is on child support welfare.

Some people are simply much too easy targets for forced sterilization. She'd be a great candidate (as would her boyfriend!).

And yet plenty of loving, responsible couples can't have kids of their own. Where's the justice in that?

And people want to legalize marijuana, This is a good case against that

When my father was a kid back in the 1930s, his father would often leave my dad in the car alone while he went into a bar and got drunk. Then my dad, not even yet a teenager, would have to drive his drunken father home. In spite of that example, and I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands if not millions more just like it, alcohol has remained legal.

A couple of years ago I read of an apartment complex that burned down, killing four people including two children, all because some guy tossed a cigarette in a place that allowed it to smolder and then catch fire. And yet, despite this example and again, hundreds of thousands if not millions more just like it, cigarettes continue to be legal even though there is no safe or adequate dosage for the intake of nicotine.

Like the above examples, marijuana is not the problem, irresponsible users are the problem, be it alcohol, cigarettes, marijuana, or even a glass of water. You can't legislate stupidity out of existence.

Her defense is, she just got through watching the movie "raising arizona". Everyone knows movies

are to blame for most of the criminal activity.(sarcasm) Stupid is, as stupid does.

jag......... I feel like voting you for President !! Great comment, thank you for sanity.

Hazelyn

"alot of people believe smoking weed is OK and there are no consequences. Wrong!

Arizona has approved Weed for medicinal purposes, Hmmm."

I guarantee there was lots of alcohol involved. Arizona (and every other State) has approved recreational alcohol use. Hmmm Oh an feel free to kill yourself with a cigarette..no problem....just don't smoke any of that evil weed! Hypocrites!

I've been smoking pot since 1970, as do manny others, yet I know of NO one who's had a car accident, gotten angry & wanted to fight or become violent while smoking a joint & we've all done a good job raising some great kids. And we certainly never forgot where we left our kids. Marijuana definately should be legalized. Better to feel mellowed out then drunk & out of control & mean.

A lot of people believe smoking weed is OK and there are no consequences.

No, the argument is that weed should be legalized for responsible adults, just like alcohol.

The woman in this article is clearly not responsible.

Remind me again how many people think alcohol has no consequences?

You can all cry cuelty about poor mommy next Mothers' Day when MSNBC runs another, 'My Mommie's In Jail' story.

I have NEVER heard of a man smoking a joint and hitting his wife/girl friend!!

But get a drink or 2 in a guy and black eyes or broken bones follow!

Alcohol causes 90% of all crimes in ALASKA!

Wait - and this happened in Arizona? Just as the baby was left on the car roof in "Raising Arizona"?

I don't care what I was on, I'd NEVER forget my CHILD on the roof of any vehicle. First of all why would you put a baby on the roof, as heavy as carseats are that doesn't even make sense. Secondly, you can be on any drug under the sun and still function enough to remember another human being on the roof of your vehicle. This case boils down to her being an incredibly selfish, uncaring moron.

Oh, and if you've never smoked weed, please quit with the evil drug nonsense. If you had ever actually used it you would know that it's WAY less affective to a person than alcohol or cigarettes, which are both legal and dropping people like flies every day. I've never heard of anyone dying from a weed-borne illness/disease/careless accident. People seem to zoom in on 'weed' in stories like this and ignore all the other crap people do to cause their misfortunes. Inform yourselves people!

Once you are responsible for the life of another human it is time to quit getting high on anything.

I always wanted to be able to respond to any emergency. Now, even though my youngest (of 4) is soon to be 23 I still remain able to legally drive at all times.

You never know when you are going to get that call, "Dad I need you...".

When my 25 year old was 6 I noticed she hadn't gotten up yet at 8 AM. Usually she was up at 5-6.

Went to check on her and she was burning up. Rushed her to the Doctor, she had pneumonia. If I had been under the influence, even the night before, I might not have thought to check on her.

The fever could have done permanent harm.

And people want to legalize marijuana, This is a good case against that

Yeah, becauses the billions of dollars we waste trying to enforce the laws against it sure paid off in this case. Stupid people are going to do stupid things whether they are stoned, drunk, or sober.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. The head nurse said leave that one alone. He is bad to the bone.

A young person with obvious problems endangered her five week old and you people are turning this into an arguement for or against Marijuana.

That is rich. You folks should run for congress or the Senate.

What "obvious problems" are you referring to? Did it indicate to us that she would have NOT have left the baby on the roof of the car and driven all the way home without realizing it WITHOUT being under the influence of a drug? We have a legitimate right to discuss the factors of the situation.

Everybody who is so focused on her smoking marijuana seem to have missed the part where her boyfriend and her bought beer.

"Alcohol is perfectly legal".

"Smoking a joint never killed anybody".

"What I put in my body is my business".

C'mon stoners, you have more gems - you can use Cat's mug for your next medical pot protest.

I figured people like 'cheetah' and MSN would jump on this and put marijuana in the negative spotlight. I simply say she was a 'kid.' Plus, she was DRUNK. It doesn't matter what this girl put in her body. I imagine most her decisions are poor ones--even when "straight." Like, "I wonder what color I should dye my hair?"

Can you imagine the horror she felt the instant she realized the baby wasn't in the car?

I don't smoke weed, and I'm not advocating that people should, but to those who are saying that this proves that marijuana shouldn't be legalized, lets stick to this case where we have a bad parent who is irresponsible. Smoking weed and being a bad parent -- one does not necessarily lead to another. We have plenty of irresponsible parents who don't smoke weed or drink. And I've also met some who indulge and are responsible people. I live in AZ and over the years we've had numerous cases of absentminded parents forgetting their infants in car seats and locking them in the car and the child dying. We had a dad who was tired and laid his infant into a bathtub with the water running and the drain open and then he laid down and fell asleep -- a washcloth then got lodged in the drain and the baby died. As far as I know, no weed in those cases. So, it's not necessarily drugs -- it's stupid or careless people. If she's the kind of person who smokes weed and then drives around with her kid, she already shows poor decision making and is bound to make other dumb mistakes whether high or not.

Truly another winner for the mother of the year award.

Bullfighter, Pot does kill people, it makes them stupid and then they end up doing something that kills themselves or others. It also makes the brain work in a retarded (as in SLOW) way.

People make mistakes.

The innocent suffer.

God blessed the person who invented the car seat.

And: thank God the mother was using a car seat; because of this very intentional act by the mother, no less, the baby is ok.

Have to say this girl - not even a woman yet, should not even be a mother, has to be one of the stupidest kids I've seen. Take the baby to to the park sit around smoke pot, leave to get beer with the boyfriend and once he's arrested go smoke some more with friends......Good example of a mother. And have to agree with Valhallaarwen about the weight of one of those car seats. I could never lift it that high to put it on top of a car roof. Luckily the baby was all right because the mother and father certainly are not all right. And for whoever said she's on welfare - agreed regardless of whether the story says it or not. And would the story interject that anyway?

This mother should be the poster child for contraception. An irresponsible nineteen year old girl who obviously puts her child last on her list of priorities should not be procreating in the first place.

Arizona will reap the negative effects of their conservative social policies, and innocent children will suffer for it, along with the community at large.

I hope child protective services will revoke her parental rights and place this baby for adoption with a responsible, loving family.

I agree with most that this person is not responsible enough right now to raise and child and that this child should be raised by a more responsible person. However, I also notice that there is alot of debate on the whole marij. issue and I think that will be a debate forever. I think that this proves that somebody who is irresponsible is going to be even more irresponsible under the influence. I have known folks that are in high positions that have smoked and drank but did it in a responsible manner. Just like with everything else overindulgence can kill. I think that people who have never done it don't understand it and buy into the whole drugs are bad bit. But in truth there are thousands of legal prescription drugs that are far worse for your body and are used irresponsibly everyday. That is not to mention alcholol and cigs., which can kill a person who dosen't even smoke them. Maybe you should think of that person dying of cancer, can't eat, can't sleep, is in so much pain and you tell them that I know that this will ease your pain but it is bad because the government says so, as a society it is like we can't think for ourselves and make decisions based on case by case we just lump it all into one decision for the masses. Because history has shown us one size fits all(sacarasitic).

The other comment that I thought was of course directed at all those welfare recipients. There was a time when we got hit pretty hard here and my husband couldn't find work I ended up losing my job and for my kids I applied and accepted food stamps. We ended up finding jobs and only using it for about 6 months but I don't think that qualifies me and my family as living off the government. I just really dislike folks who have not been in that situation and try to say that it is bad or they would never do anything like that. For my kids sake I will get on my knees and beg if I have to, to make sure they have food on the table to eat and a roof over their head. Does that make me a bad person???

Back to this girl who has no direction in her life and made a bad decision or really bad decisions, by having unprotected sex leading to a baby that she obviously cannot take care of I think that she does deserve to be punished and have the child taken away until she has gotten her life together. I think that we can all agree that it is just thankful that somebody up there was looking out for that percious little life and has bigger plans for the baby.

apples i agree with your statement that drugs of any kind can be bad if used to often.

the sad thing is unlike you this girl would have no reason to pull herself up and off government assistance. your case is exactly what these programs was designed to do. give people a temporary hand when they need it, not to provide a life long benefits.

i aslo would like to see this mother given a chance to improve her life and learn how to provide quality care to her child, she is young and i hope this is a wake up call to her and helps to put her on a path of being responsible.

By the way she is 19 years old. What is she doing drinking beer? You are supposed to be 21 to drink in all states unless I am incorrect about that.

weed is awesome! alcohol is not.

No you're correct Dave legal drinking age here is 21, but let's face facts smoking pot is illegal why would under-age drinking stop her?

@debora:

It also makes the brain work in a retarded (as in SLOW) way.

Tell that to Carl Sagan.

I agree with Wichasha.

This stupid bitch is probably on Meth or some other type of drug. There needs to be laws against teenage pregnancy. I don't know this ladies exact situation, but if you are a teen, get pregnant and are not married, the baby should be given up for adoption. Probably 99% of women that age are not qualified to raise a young child. This is a rampant problem in our society as unmarried, teenage pregnancy is glorified on TV. Actors having babies out of wedlock as if there is nothing wrong with it is pitiful as well. They are setting a BAD EXAMPLE for young girls that cannot afford to have a baby and are not mature enough to raise it.

The friends ran into the officers investigating the found the baby...

Ah, MSNBC editors strike again. Good going, MSNBC! You still have not managed to break you perfect record of being unable to publish a single article without significant spelling errors, incorrect grammar, etc...just continuous stupidity and incompetency.

Blondeness032: When this child is removed from parents custody, she will be put in a foster home in ARIZONA! If she's not allowed to be adopted (if the parents fight the state, which they will) she will likely be moved to up to 3 or more subsequent foster homes in ARIZONA! The likelihood of her being beaten/sexually assaulted/raped/exploited/neglected and therefore permanently mentally and emotionally damaged during this transitional time is high, so YES!!: Abortion should stay legal and be encouraged for teenaged, pot-smoking, paint huffing morons who get pregnent younger than 25 without a career, a pot to piss in or any window to throw it out of! Keep birth control and abortion legal and accessible: a miserable life is NOT a gift to your child!

There is so much that could be said but is not helping the situation.

Good, the child is OK and hopefully will end up in a loving and caring family.

As for his bimbo mother - sterilize that bitch and remove her from the gene pool.

gridlock, I don't care what Ron Paul says; this girl needs to have the baby removed from her custody and needs to be detoxed and put in parenting classes. She will have to prove herself clean and sober before she gets that baby back.

But G baby....this is not an argument for abortion since she chose to have the child. Seems the people who get abortions are most often people who can afford them thus proving they could provide if they kept the baby. Abortion in many states ( and yes I have seen the stats of my home state) are middle class women who have suddenly encountered this "inconvenience" of getting pregnant. Only 1% was due to rape or incest. The other 98% was pure choice.

Sheriff Joe, Please give her a set of the pink underwear to go with her pink hair and please put her inside a comfortable 120* tent so she can think about her life choices for a little bit. Thanks!!

And yet plenty of loving, responsible couples can't have kids of their own. Where's the justice in that?

Well, for the BuyBull thumpers here -- they'll tell you the jesus-myth has all the answers. And his plan shouldn't be questioned! Be good, mindless christians, now, and play the hand you've been dealt, and remember -- the jesus-myth wants it this way!

Yup, if you smoke pot and do other drugs you'll never amount to anything. Just ask Ted Turner, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, George W. Bush, Rick Steves, Richard Branson, Grant Fuhr, William J. Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sarah Palin, Larry Hagman, Cameron Diaz, Charlize Theron, Natalie Portman, Morgan Freeman, etc etc etc etc.

It reminds me of somebody who left his dog on the roof of his car. In both cases, not fit as parents or in charge of other human beings.

lol elizabeth please try to come up with something new or original or somethen not so out of place or over used

but if you are a teen, get pregnant and are not married, the baby should be given up for adoption

So just because some young girls aren't able to "grow up" & take care of a child they made the choice of having, all of them should have to give up their baby even if they are capable of caring for them?? Altho I agree that getting pregnant at a young age (teens) isn't the best thing to do, I feel that if they are capable of caring for the child & can handle the responsibility then they have every right to be a mother just like any older woman would. Then there are teen mothers who can't grow up when they have too, those are the ones (like this girl) who do not deserve to have a child, they are the ones who should give up the child to people who are more deserving of a baby. I got pregnant at 19, am now 22 expecting my 2nd child, granted 19 is still considered a young age to start having kids, I grew up & accepted the responsibility. I didn't work while I pregnant, but my bf did, & then a month after our son was born I got a job & have been working at the same job for over 2 years now. I feel that I'm a "good" mother as I'm working & am able to provide for my child(soon to be children). Also I am not married, but have been with the same man for about 4 years, my son (unborn daughter's) father. I don't necessarily think being unmarried is wrong, only reason why a majority of people think so is because it's what everyone was taught to believe. I know plenty of people(couples) who have had children & not gotten married but have been together 30+ yrs or so. Then I know people had kids/got married & didn't last. It can go both ways, its up to the individuals. IMO, it's not the brightest idea to get married just because you had kids first, b/c then it seems forced. I feel you should get married because its something you're sure you want, not because you "have" too. I do not think kids will turn out any different if they are raised by parents who aren't married, again, it's just up to the people involved. I like to think I'm a good parent, others may have their opinion on if I am or not. I don't believe that being young & unmarried affects(effects?) one's parenting skills, in some cases. Some young mothers parent better then a woman who had kids at an older age, it just comes down to whether or not the young mother owns up to the responsibility she brought upon herself. Now in this girl's case, she obviously can't cut it as a mother, as it seems her weed smoking is more important then the baby. I mean sheesh, when my son was 5 weeks old I didn't even think of going out with friends even at that point. When he was that age is when I was starting my new job, not worrying about hanging out with friends. I'm wondering if her parents taught her anything about responsiblity, or why didnt any of her "friends" try to talk some common sense into her about smoking weed/drinking around an infant, of course they probably aren't very bright themselves. I hope she doesn't get this baby back, but if she does for some odd reason, then I hope she learned her lesson & will finally grow up & be more responsible.

Seems the people who get abortions are most often people who can afford them thus proving they could provide if they kept the baby.

So... it only costs $400 to raise a baby???? Uhm sorry, but the cost of an abortion is no where close to the cost of raising a child.

lets try it this way, the people that are able to afford the baby but chooses to kill it cause the eye color doesn't match their purse are not making a good decision.

so if a baby might cramp your life style we should just kill it? why put a limit on how late in the pregnancy you can do it till, why not just say ah the baby maybe 6 years old now but we cant really afford it, just kill it.

King jester, that makes absolutely no sense.

And having a baby is an extremely large commitment and if you know you cannot afford it, its probably best not to do it. Its not "inconvenience" its a fact.

sorry mandy most people can not afford babies. no one is ever well enough off to afford a baby. its a poor excuse to kill something you helped create.

there are plenty of options around for people that wish not to kill a baby just cause of money.

and speaking of money, how much is a human life worth to you?

May I point out that having a child at 19 with no father in the picture is pretty irresponsible. Unless this girl is independently wealthy, I doubt she has the funds to raise a child in the manner which it should be raised.

Why was she out with an infant at midnight? Heck, I'll go one further, what heck was she doing out period with a 5 week old infant? The child should have been home asleep for hours.

Loads of bad judgement to go around in this story.

mj the baby has a father, and you dont have to be walthy to raise a baby the baby doesnt need a palace, it needs food and shelter and the intense care of its parents.

and the father was arrested earlier in the day for being stoned/drunk in public

Right king, babies dont need to eat, they can be fed with love! and who needs to clothe them? why, paper bags work just fine. Never mind school supplies or daycare or any of that.

So you think that its better to have a baby that you can't afford, and have it be raised in squalor than it is to have an abortion? I'm sorry, but that sounds just plain cruel to me.

I feel you should get married because its something you're sure you want, not because you "have" too.

I feel you should have kids because it's something you're sure you want and are ready to handle, not because you "have" to.

It's not just the mother's life that is affected. There is an innocent child involved.

I don't believe that being young & unmarried affects(effects?) one's parenting skills, in some cases.

At the age of 22, your brain is not yet fully developed. Revisit this issue when you are in your thirties, if you have the integrity to be honest with yourself about how your opinions might have evolved by then.

I had my first daughter at the age of 17, and there are actually lots of mothers just like me, I worked 3 jobs, graduated early from high school and went on to college (while still working those three jobs) yes child care killed most of my pay BUT I never ONCE got any form of welfare. It ultimately costed me time with my child, if I could go back no I think I would've gotten rid of at least one job and maybe accepted tuition help from the state.

I also had several friends who didn't work or finish school and got on welfare (most of them are still on it today 3 or 4 kids in) it used to piss me off that they made more than I did.

If the baby had been injured, the mother would probably sue the car seat manufacturer. She needs some cash to pay her legal bills and support her habit. Where are the posts from all those "let's make pot legal" zombies?

thank you mandy for taking everything different than i clearly stated. a baby doesnt need a palace, it need food and shelter and the love and care of its parents.

no noe ever makes enough money to raise a child, its always a struggle. but the best things in life are the ones you have to work for.

No, I didn't take it differently. I pointed out that yes, it is indeed possible to be able to have enough money or borrow enough money for an abortion, but not enough money to feed a child for the foreseeable future. Not to mention all of the other things they need. What if you can't afford food and shelter?

You live in a dream world where love and fluffy clouds make things better. This is reality.

Is this gal related to Mitt Romney?

if you cant afford shelter? where are you living then? where is your friends and family? there are churches and such that help with shelter. a baby doesnt need a palace, living in the same room as you do works just as well.

Again, so you think its better to raise a baby in a shelter than to not have a baby at all until you get on your feet? I disagree. Why not make the decision to not have a baby until you are ready and can support one?

Not everyone has family. Not everyone has friends who can afford to support their friend's kid. Not everyone has what you have king.

why not use safe sex or no sex at all and not run the risk of getting pregnany?

King, lots of people practice safe sex but there are still accidents. Not to mention that there are plenty of married women with children who also have abortions

1SGFitzsWife4ID

I had my first daughter at the age of 17, and there are actually lots of mothers just like me, I worked 3 jobs, graduated early from high school and went on to college (while still working those three jobs) yes child care killed most of my pay BUT I never ONCE got any form of welfare. It ultimately costed me time with my child, if I could go back no I think I would've gotten rid of at least one job and maybe accepted tuition help from the state.

I also had several friends who didn't work or finish school and got on welfare (most of them are still on it today 3 or 4 kids in) it used to piss me off that they made more than I did.

Just out of curiosity, was there any particular reason you decided to have a baby at age 17? My parents would have thrown me out of the house if I'd gotten pregnant in high school. There is no way I'd have chosen that path. I don't understand why some girls derail their future that way.

If you don't mind my asking?

pot is currently illegal, the girl got pot and left her child on her car roof- so what does this have to do with legalizing it? im sorry i am not following your retarded logic on that, if bad things happen while it is illegal how is what making it more illegal going to do what exactly? if people do stupid things while it is a crime then keeping it illegal is hardly stopping it, the people apt to get high and do stupid stuff are already doing it. keeping it illegal only runs off law abiding citizens who would use it responsibly like booze. thats like thinking banning booze would stop dui's- it wouldnt. I for one am tired of paying for this farcical war on drugs

Kaybee- Obviously my child was not planned (I was on the pill when I got pregnant) even though I'm pro-choice, I don't believe in abortion myself (I just don't have the right to tell anyone else what to do)

I had basically already been on my own since age 14, I didn't have the greatest mom in the world. I was taken in by my boyfriend's parents when I was 15, we got our first apt when I turned 17, we were planning to get married when we graduated from high school. I got pregnant before I graduated (my ex had already graduated he's a few months older than me) I had choices, I could've had an abortion, or I could've given her up for adoption, but I chose the third choice to keep her and raise her, she's now 20 going to college and is very well adjusted.

I may have "derailed my future" but I don't see it that way, I still graduated from high school and I still got one of my three degrees, it just took a little longer.

Now I don't advocate teen pregnancy or anything, in fact while finishing high school I was taking a parenting class and we went to other high schools and did teen panels explaining how hard it is to be a teenage parent, the shows they have on like MTV teen mom and all that personally make me angry, it's like they're glorifying it, which is so wrong.

I didn't have my second child until I was 22. I personally only have two children, I never wanted anymore. I've since remarried and added 4 step-children to the mix but 2 are grown and 2 visit during the summer.

Hope that explains it?

I am a lifelong pot smoker. My kids have never been left anywhere except by their alcoholic father.

My daughter has two BA degrees and a Masters. How's that for stoner parenting?

There are plenty of "straight" people who forget their babies in hot cars and they end up dead. Nobody arrests them. This happens way more often than a stoner forgetting her baby was on top of the car.

Plenty of smart people smoke pot. Unfortunately, there are plenty of stupid ones who do also. Just like there are stupid people who drink, etc. Statistically, alcohol overwhelmingly does more damage.

And people want to legalize marijuana, This is a good case against that

Yeah imagine that. But we have alcohol and ciggs that have no health value what so ever. Marijuana has so many health benefits it's crazy. I'm not even going to try and list them all, never mind the plant can be used to make clothes, rope, paper, etc. Like alcohol it would need to be used responsibly.

I would also guess that she was drinking alcohol as her BF got popped for DUI while going to pick some up after they were at the park.

So I guess you brainwashed morons would like to keep it illegal so that kids can buy it on the corners, in school or where ever which also supplies the gangs and cartels with massive cash flow, instaed of having it controlled like alcohol. How many times do you see a gang member on the corner selling booze? The gangs got their power due to prohibition, when are the idiots going to realize this.

PS I don't even smoke but realize how stupid these laws are. NJ supposedly decriminalized weed but you can still will get a summons or arrested-depends on amount. Don't try growing it in NJ though as it will get you 3 yrs mandatory (felony) even for 1 plant.

Marijuana doesn't kill people. People kill people.

Agreed...real parents don't go out smoking til 1 AM... she is way too immature to be raising a child.

Well... This is a long debated topic about parenting rights and skills over the last 25-30 years.. I'm inclined to agree with you Waxx4321.

Problem came when women entered the workforce out of financial necessity. Moms were not at home to put a foot in their childs asses when they got in trouble. It really is a catch22, takes more money to raise kids so both parents typically need to work now, but at some point a dual working household doesn't effectivly raise children. My mom stayed home with us kids until we were teenagers before returning to work. Long gone are the good old days when you got whoopins for being disrespectful. Which i personally think is a missing link in parenting.

Immature is a too nice of a word at the moment and I'll just leave it at that.

"Raising Arizona" , the movie......kid in the middle of the road.

She was just doing a functional check of the car seats ability to protect her little rug rat......yeah, thats the defense.....yeah, try that Mr lawyer...

What do you mean, insinuating that the weed might have helped me forget what I did with my little bundle of joy?

GCooper - as one of those wmen who had to enter the workforce, I take offense to your statement. A dual working household CAN effectivley raise their children. It's called "paying attention", and "talking to your children", and "listening to your children", and putting your foot down about what is acceptable and unacceptable instead of spending all night and all day in front of a screen as your children do likewise.

GCooper4276999, All the women in my family, all the way back to my great great grandmother, worked and so does every mother I know. That's how it's always been for the middle class neighborhoods I have always live in. We are the waitresses, teachers, secretaries, and nurses. When as it not been neccessary for women to work? Back in my day it was diet pills, booze, and tobbacco. You didn't hear about the stuff that went on because there was no internet there was only gossip.

slc whether you take offense at his comment or not, you cannot deny that many many families that have both parents working leaves less time for actually "raising" the children. When you had a parent at home they were able to monitor what the children watched and what they did during the day, They also were there to not only discipline the children at the time they misbehaved but also able to "teach" them the proper way to act or how to do something, at the time a situation arose. With a parent at home the child KNEW there was always someone right there they could depend on and go to at that moment they needed someone, Not someone a phone call away at work that "can talk about it when I get home". Children many times are being left at home alone for long periods of time with no supervision as soon as parents think they are old enough to save the cost of day care, leaving more children free to explore more and more without the help and guidance( or the discipline needed) from a parent. More and more children in schools are not doing as well on the basics in scores compared to other countries, with a parent at home there was someone who made sure the child did the home work as soon as they came home from school and also took more part in their studies helping them to understand what they were learning. While this is not true in every case it is true in very very many cases.

I agree with the ladies that disagree with GCooper. I was born in 1954 and my parents both worked, we didn't have a lot of money, but we were raised with a good work ethic and strong values. My Dad will soon be 90 years old and my parents will celebrate their 63rd wedding anniversary this year. Mothers have been working for years, don't blame it on that.

congrats to your parents on a long marriage....they don't make them like that anymore.

If more people would give it more than the 55 hours (a la Britney Spears) or 72 days (kardashian/humphries), we might see more stay together. that's Hollywood for you though.

She is a 19 year old, with a 5 WEEK old baby. She is a kid with a NEW kid, and she most likely is a typical forgetful 19 year old who isn't understanding that babies take 24 hours of your attention per day. She most likely "forgets" that when she gets high......and most likely gets "high', alot......

still, she was drinking alcohol n smoking pot... n believe it or not, ppl can live good lives w/out sex, but maybe she only had sex once n got pregnant, I dunno............................ maybe she wanted to get rid of the baby, I dunno

Word!!

The hair color says it all. She must have taken out her lip, noes & eye ball piercings for the photo.

The story I don't have much of a comment on but look at the cop being interviewed in the video. He can't even pronounce "aggravated" and he keeps flicking his tongue out as if he were a lizard.

That was really stupid for the reporter to compare babies to pets too

"It takes a village."...................................................................................Hillary Clinton

"Mexico's drug problem is caused by America's thurst for drugs!"....................Hillary Clinton

"I did not have sex with that woman!".........................................................Bill Clinton

People make mistakes.

The innocent suffer.

God blessed the person who invented the car seat.

And: thank God the mother was using a car seat; because of this very intentional act by the mother, no less, the baby is ok.

@wax4321, I agree with you. exception, I think there has always been bad parenting for years. It is just that yesterday, the storey of one of them would be in a limited area. With todays media the local area is very broad. One sould not be sorry for speaking the truth, Parenting has fallen off. So hasn't the word "responsabilty."

Last week, on another thread, Bullfighter wanted slavery reinstated. His comments are uninteresting.

Problem came when women entered the workforce out of financial necessity.

No the problem did not come when women entered the workforce. The problem came when we decided we wouldn't ostracize women for having children with no visible means of support and no father in the picture.

What do you expect from these girls? She probably grew up the exact same way with a mother that thought she'd be on a reality show and get rich. She probably grew up with a mother that had no place for them to live but owned a Louis Vuitton bag.

I would call this girl trash. There was a time when she would have been ashamed of this behavior. I'd like everyone to be able to do what they want when they want but let's just be realistic. Most people don't have the moral compass for that sort of freedom.

...The problem came when we decided we wouldn't ostracize women for having children with no visible means of support and no father in the picture....

Because it's solely the woman's fault for getting pregnant in the first place and not being able to keep the father in the picture? It takes 2, mj, to get pregnant. It takes a looser of a man to decide to run away from a pregnant girlfriend, and leave to a baby without a father. But the problem in your eyes is that we as a society decided to stop ostracizing women in these unfortunate situations?

Years ago, when apparently we still were incline to publicly ostracize young unwed mothers, abortion was illegal. But many young women went to great lengths to pay for and obtain an illegal and very unsafe abortion by practitioners who ranged from M.D.s to old hags with coat hangers. Who knows how many of these girls suffered irreparable physical harm, or even lost their life? These were the results of the public ostracizing you clearly would like to see reinstated into our societal norms.

How about this.... instead of encouraging the public to shame young women who get pregnant when they are clearly unready..... which sounds like the conservative republican approach to fixing the problem in conjunction with making safe abortions illegal.... let's support these young unwed mothers in obtaining safe and legal abortions.

Frankly, I DO think it's better to abort a fetus in the womb than to have a drunk and stoned teenager throw a living baby in the street. Thank God the baby is ok, but what if it wasn't? If it died a painful death because of a clearly incompetent and irresponsible mother, would that really be better than this 17 year old getting an abortion in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy?

Let's be real here people. I understand the pro-lifers feeling that every life is precious - and I agree that they SHOULD be - but the fact is, the lives of all babies are not viewed as precious by their parents. You can't control the people who have kids who clearly should not. You can't control how these kids are abused or neglected. Is it truly better to sentence some of these kids to a childhood of neglect or to abort an unwanted fetus? Because the pro-lifers who want to make all abortions illegal are essentially saying it is.

The brand name is "Welfare Best".

HadEnoughOfIt,

You are probably SO right! Bet she's on welfare, gets WIC, welfare pays for baby, etc. while she goes out and drinks and smokes MJ. She'll be pregnant again soon! They can buy everything but a stupid cheap condom! Are they idiots! Your tax dollars at work!!

This child stands no chance in life if she's allow to stay with this woman!!! You have a drunk, stoned woman who should be penalized greatly. This is the luckiest baby in the world ONLY because it survived falling off the top of a car!

Thats exactly what it is. The state will provide medical, foodstamps, WIC assistance, meal assistance, free clothing to poor families, bill assistance to households with children and a list of other options. Yet the state won't fund the cheapest program of them all, Planned Parenthood. You used to be able to walk in their door, grab a handful of condoms from a basket at the desk and move on. I don't know how many thousands of unplanned births this saved but i can guarantee it was cheaper than what we have now.

The "HANDS OF GOD" car seat.

I'm sure it was hospital issued. And paid for by the citizens of AZ. Thank God it saved the baby's life. For the mother, she wil get what's coming to her.

Yeah, either she is on welfare, OR she is just a rich republicans daughter, we just don't know now do we?

WHY does everything think she's on welfare, wic, food stamps and every other government assistance available?

Because she is 19. Chances are she is receving assistance. How much assistance? Who knows. But most likely getting some kind, if not everything available to her.

Because she is unmarried, very young, uneducated, stupid enough to be smoking dope while she left her kid on top of a car in the middle of the night. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

again, Mrs. Rocket Scientist, you are only assuming. You may be correct, but it's never a good idea to make assumptions without knowing the facts. For all you know, she's still trying to graduate from H.S.

DLange: I certainly hope she is. She needs to give up the pot and booze, study and try and make something of herself. Because if she doesn't, her child will repeat the cycle. This is not a statement. It is a fact. And I hope she proves me wrong.

How do you know it wasn't Bristol Palin?

Another example of why legalizing pot would be a very bad idea. We already have enough dim wit drunks on the roads... we don't need the roads also full of a bunch dim wit pot heads! I've dealt with pot heads more times than I care to admit... they may be able to function (like walk and not slur speech), but their heads are not clear. And pot is usually the gateway drug to harder drugs.

The only thing pot was ever a 'gateway' to for me was a bag of Dorrito's and Comic View and as far as her being on welfare, do any of you people not read or see the stupid things rich people's children do?

Why the hell wouldn't she find a babysitter for the kid instead of taking it with her? Who want's to party with a newborn?

I guess the baby is going to get addicted to pot too. From all that second hand smoke!

People make mistakes.

The innocent suffer.

God blessed the person who invented the car seat.

And: thank God the mother was using a car seat; because of this very intentional act by the mother, no less, the baby is ok.

Well said disillussioned.

People make mistakes.

The innocent suffer.

God blessed the person who invented the car seat.

And: thank God the mother was using a car seat; because of this very intentional act by the mother, no less, the baby is ok.

What is it with people who are all about forced sterilization these days? Mackenzie there is something wrong with you.

Oh I don't know Mandy, maybe because so many adults can create and then completely ruin the life of a baby who never asked to be born.

So who gets to decide Jenny? How would you like if if someone walked up to you one day and said that they didn't think you were a fit parent and decided for you that you should be snipped?

Yeah what Mandy said. WHO gets to decide? It's all well and fine until it happens to you right Jenny?

I would be angry, but i feel like i would later realize that it was for the best. I don't think its the best solution to force serilization but seriously, people like this should not be able to have babies at THIS moment. If only there was a temporary way to prevent pregnancies....hmmm....... CONDOMS, THE PILL, AN INTRAUTERAL DEVICE! Which obviously wasn't used in the heat of the moment.

People make mistakes.

The innocent suffer.

God blessed the person who invented the car seat.

And: thank God the mother was using a car seat; because of this very intentional act by the mother, no less, the baby is ok.

The top of the car is a very good place to forget something... How many bashing this girl have left a cup of coffee, or a bag of groceries on the roof while you fiddled for keys... How many kids have been cooked while belted down in the back seat because the drivers mind was elsewhere. Out of sight out of mind, then add a bit of weed or a couple of beers to the mix and it is surprising that this sort of thing doesn't happen more often. I don't think she'll make that mistake again so lighten up everybody.

i can safely say i have never left a child on top of the car, and never had one "cooked" in the car either.

sorry but a child is not the same thing as a purse or coffee. unless your value for human life is that low.

Presidential Candidates have been known for putting dogs on top of cars... And he wasnt on drugs. As far as we know it. But we will take his word for it.

and yet there wasnt thing illegal or harmful in safely transporting his animal in a crate appropriate for that purpose.

i would be the first to complain if he said ya we strapped it to the top of the car to take it home so we could cook it up real good for dinner.

Actually, pot destroying brain cells is a myth. This woman was already dumb.

So you are saying Pot smoking doesn't impair your thinking or judgement? Really? Then what is the point of pot smoking?

It was probably the alcohol that made her stupid.

just like the movie, "Raising Arizona"

Could have just been being in Arizona that made her stupid.

Pot smoking is ALMOST as bad as alcohol, aren't we grateful that is illegal too...oh wait...

Being in Arizona isn't what made her stupid. But if that's what you think, then you must belong there too. You're an idiot.

I didn't mean any offense. I only said that because of Arizona's long history and reputation of stupidity. It's as if Arizona is in a competition with Florida and Texas for the prize of stupidest state.

Urban Cow- Dont think so, people such as her work very hard at getting stupid, early in life.

Her pot pusher should be arrested for child endangerment.

People make mistakes.

The innocent suffer.

God blessed the person who invented the car seat.

And: thank God the mother was using a car seat; because of this very intentional act by the mother, no less, the baby is ok.

JOregon

"Once you are responsible for the life of another human it is time to quit getting high on anything.

I always wanted to be able to respond to any emergency. Now, even though my youngest (of 4) is soon to be 23 I still remain able to legally drive at all times.

You never know when you are going to get that call, "Dad I need you...".

When my 25 year old was 6 I noticed she hadn't gotten up yet at 8 AM. Usually she was up at 5-6.

Went to check on her and she was burning up. Rushed her to the Doctor, she had pneumonia. If I had been under the influence, even the night before, I might not have thought to check on her.

The fever could have done permanent harm".

This guy makes a real important (and overlooked) point. And yes, it could happen with alcohol or pot or whattever. My real gripe with the Pot Militia is their sales pitch "It's not as bad as alcohol".....So What?! Does that make it good for you? Are you NOT less than functional than if sober? As a former user for over a decade of my life, I say pot has just as many negative effects as alcohol. Plus, alcohol is consumed by WAY more people so the statistics on accidents, fights, violence are highly skewed.

I once argued this with some guy; he said he's a smoker and he earns six figures and has a hot wife and generally a great life. My question is: Is all of that BECAUSE he's a pothead or in spite of it? Hell, if he hadn't been baked all the time, he might have done even greater things...cured AIDS, Cancer..who knows.

The only argument I have with what you said Daniel is, Doctor's prescribe pot for those with cancer never heard of them prescribing alcohol, so it must have SOME good qualities? I don't smoke anymore did way back in the day as I'm sure a lot of others have, and it never wreaked as much havoc on my life as alcohol did.

I'm torn between legalizing it and keeping it illegal, I see both sides.

actually our family doctor did perscribe wine for my wife while she was pregnant, he told her to drink a glass of red wine once every couple days to help her keep the stress low and to provide something or other i foget what it was, but its in red wine, and cleanse her body

When I was pregnant I had gestational diabetes and lost 19 pounds, my doctor told me to try smoking pot (CA) to help me get an appetite and too be able to control my nausea, I chose not to. I'm not sure when your wife had your child but the doctor's told my mom the same thing, when I started having kids they told me not to drink at all since they don't know if it's one drink or 50 that causes fetal alcohol syndrome, either way being pregnant I wouldn't take the risk with pot or alcohol.

Sure sounds like one.

So true. I am not a pot smoker. But in general I don't have anything against those that do. Except a Parent with the custody of an innocent child! WTF?!

I wonder how many guns and bullets the profits from selling pot to idiots buys?

Bullfighter-2591838
I wonder how many guns and bullets the profits from selling pot to idiots buys?

I don't know...maybe we should ask Eric Holder?

why is everyone so supportive of legalizing pot? If it gets legalized, than even more will use this drug. It is mind altering otherwise...why use It??? It affects judgement and thinking just like any other drug. We have enough problems with alcohol, cigarettes and gambling. Potheads of the group, can you understand me? or do I need to be more clear?

Like an episode straight from Beavis and Butthead tho unfortunately a real child is potentially harmed from mom's selfish and stupid actions.

Why use it? Because it relieves stress, makes you happy, and is generally an all around good time.

When I was around six we lived on a military base and we always told to go out and play. The buildings were old and the paint always peeled. We pretended the peelings were potato chips, the leaded taste is something I will never forget. Even with this trama I would never leave a child on the roof of a car :)

Me too! We done dipped the paint chips in mercury, like it was dip. Thems were they deys.

People make mistakes.

The innocent suffer.

God blessed the person who invented the car seat.

And: thank God the mother was using a car seat; because of this very intentional act by the mother, no less, the baby is ok.

Quit repeating that !!! You are spamming! And tell us something we don't know!!!

Nexxus1 , What about freedom , small government ,low taxes you cant have all of those and still forcefully sterilise idiots with out having taxes and intrusive government to do it .

Unfortunately as a current foster care parent of 3, I am pretty sure that there will be at least a 1 year reunification process where momma tries to get her self together. The child will stay in foster care during that time, bonding with a wonderful foster family, and then once momma seems a little more mature, they will take the child from the family that raised it and give it back. Most of the time the child will be back in the system withing months. Th psychological impact on the child will be vast. Our current system to protect the parent often out weighs the need to protect the child. That's why so many kids are dying.

yes, there is no answer here for the baby... the babies... your comment is well written tired

Eugenics was considered in the U.S. at one point. Offering $ to get fixed would be a start.

sayitlikeitis,your the LOSER for blaming president Obama for girls like the one in this story!! This crap has been going on way before Obama was born! You just don't like the idea of a black man being in charge of this country!! Stop blaming him for everything!! It was those TRAITORS bush and EVIL chaney who destroyed this country!!

What a truly silly statement that somehow this is the fault of Obama. Really, there were young girls pregnant when I was in high school and Reagan was president. Please, stop using every possible news story to slam the president. I mean is this all you have to attack him with? Not the economy, jobs, nothing else? Really?

Jeanette-767450

Eugenics was considered in the U.S. at one point. Offering $ to get fixed would be a start.

Start with Mexicans. They are the ones who grow this crap.

they don't grow the good stuff.

The Supreme Court's ruling in Roe v. Wade (1973) established that the right to have an abortion is protected by the U.S. Constitution, which means that states are prohibited from banning abortions performed prior to the point of viability. Roe originally established viability at 24 weeks; Casey v. Planned Parenthood (1992) shortened it to 22 weeks.

Arizona has a ton of abortion clinics.

the baby is a human life, shame on you for your backward, ignorant comment Urban

Susann. do you HONESTLY think its better for these children to be abused for the next 18+ years by incompetent drug addled parents? REALLY? And NO all life isnt sacred..we already have way too many parasite humans as it is. If all life is sacred. go talk to your government about why its ok to send our children to their death in wars?

By your logic, cars should be illegal because people use them in stupid ways. Please legislate everything I can and can't do, even if it involves something so sick and twisted as to point at a plant in it's natural form and say "bad plant", you can't have it.

martha washington - Yeah, we should definately legalize marijuana.

About the worst thing pot does is make you stupid while you're using it. That isn't a very good reason to prohibit it.

Alcohol has done worse, yet who is calling for it to be outlawed again?

Every year, people suntan, even though a certain percentage numbering in the hundreds of thousands will develop melanoma, the deadly form of skin cancer, as a result. Should we then ban suntanning?

If we could outlaw stupidity, I would be all in favor of it. Even better would be to outlaw stupid people from parenting. Unfortunately, we cannot do that.

It's just easier to vilify a substance.

alkhidr: Wow, in your posts you sure are pushing to change the subject. I guess you don't want to hear bad things about pot.

There are hundreds of items that are legal, but not good for you.

Did you not read in the article where they were going to get more alcohol or do just want those 'damn hippies' to quit smoking?

Everyday there are people who leave their children with others when they go party, it's this girls fault not pot, not beer, not the republicans, not the democrats, it's her fault.

Tumbleweed, it's everyone blaming the pot instead of the girl who are changing the subject. I would say the same if she had left the kid on the roof because she drank too many Big Gulps.

Legalize pot, outlaw Mexicans!

AlKhidr.....And THAT is why Mayor Mike Bloomberg wants to make the Big Gulp illegal in NYC !

Wonder if her car had a Romney bumper sticker, he is big on car top transportation !

mm where has Romney ever said its ok to transport a child on a car? or you just making a troll grenade remark. you seam to of tossed one onto both sides of the fence.

So Bill Lumberg, by your logic, people should be free do what they want, correct? Get high, don't get high. Get drunk, don't get drunk. Go to work, don't go to work. Succeed, fail. Live, die. It's called absolute responsibility.....you get out of life what you put into it. So, in order for this logic to take hold, we need to remove all the programs in our society that circumvent an individuals capability to apply that kind of ABSOLUTE freedom. Yes, some will fail. But many will succeed. That's nature at work.

so true Martha

"About the worst thing pot does is make you stupid while you;re using it."

Whoops, my comment didn't get added to the previous thread.

hmmmm. Thought that was the point of the story. Doesn't help the argument to legalize pot

newsjunky, what it means is that you shouldn't be driving while impaired......but that's not a reason to prohibit booze or pot.

False assumption based on a single anecdote. George Bush once choked on a pretzel, so now preztels should be banned?

Lets change the subject to bush or pretzels. Anything but pot.

At least we know who the pot heads are on this blog... easy to spot. And like anyone with a nasty habit, justify it any way you can. Most of the potheads I have met are just as irresponsible as this woman was and is. Maybe they should lock her up until she is at least 35 and "matures" a little bit. Two wrongs do not make a right.

Exactly how is pointing out legitimate parallels "changing the subject"? Allkhidir is responding directly to those posters who are blaming this incident only on the pot smoking (versus the mother's apparent emotional and intellectual immaturity). I'm not a smoker (of pot or cigarettes ... I like my lungs fully functioning, thank you), but I know people who are; some of them are dumber than rocks, while others are mature, responsible people who hold down jobs, take care of their families, and don't cause anyone any trouble. I may disagree with their choice for health reasons, but frankly I've seen more damage to individuals, families, and society from alcohol abuse than from pot smoking. Like others have pointed out here, ANYTHING can fuel the bad behavior of an addictive personality.

Always it's alcohol. Hey, sugar is very bad for you, and it's legal. So is gambling.

Making marijuana legal WILL NOT make it good for you.

And keeping it illegal will not make people stop smoking it Az Tumbleweed.

My ex left our 3 day old daughter in her car seat sitting on the ground next to the back door of the car got in and drove away, totally forgetting her. Guess what? He was completely sober.

Thankfully he was A) at my sisters and she happened to come out right after he left and B) thankfully he didn't run her over when he was backing up.

Irresponsible is irresponsible regardless of what you are or are not smoking.

At least we know who the pot heads are on this blog... easy to spot. And like anyone with a nasty habit, justify it any way you can. Most of the potheads I have met are just as irresponsible as this woman was and is

Hmm, overgeneralizing based on... nothing.

I am a graduate student with a full ride scholarship, I am working professionally this summer, I make my own money and pay for everything. I never miss class or work. I also smoke pot. Want to tell me how any of that is irresponsible?

mandy: Just think how much better you would do if you kept your head on straight.

Mandy you want to know what you do is being irresponsible? It is irresponsible to smoke pot which is illegal, just the same as someone who speeds, doesn't wear seatbelts, drinks and drives etc. Illegal behavior is never responsible. Kudos on your accomplishments however. Just as Arizona says, just think how much better you'd be if you didn't smoke pot. Better hope your future job doesn't require a blood or urine test. Good luck with your future.

Arizona, And what do you mean keep my head on straight? Just because someone smokes pot doesnt mean they smoke pot all the time. Same with drinking, or exercising, or anything else a person does. It also does not mean that they cannot pick times which it would not interfere with their lives to smoke.

News, it may be illegal, but it is an activity that harms no one. And again, how much better I would be. You assume that because I smoke pot, I'm smoking 20 times a day and doing nothing else. Ever heard of moderation?

I have read all of the posts up to yours and I have not read a single thing reagarding Odumba. However, endless posts regarding Romney. Where do you get off?

I haven't read anything about Obama either, but seriously, What does being Arizona have to do with any of this. Bad parents are in every state in this country. Just ridiculous to post comments that really have nothing to do with the real story and situation.

But go ahead, blame Arizona, Brewer, Romney, and start throwing in Obama. Those are the comments that show a true lack of intelligence.

Apparently you didn't read them all:

sAyItLiKeItIs said:

"If this does not support the need for forced sterilizations for trash like this, nothing will. She needs to be forcibly sterilized and the baby put up for adoption where it may have a chance. Truly all the wrong people are breeding. Poor, uneducated, drug using, unmarried... The US Government needs to start offering $2500 to all women who will be sterilized, and nip situations like this in the bud. Truly disgusting how losers like this are allowed to breed. No wonder the USA is at the bottom of the list educationally. This is the type of scum you end up with when a liberal loser like Obama is president. Fortunately trash like this woman usually don't vote."

Like MW said, some people just can't help showing their pathetic biases. You can generally spot them by their use of childish words like "Odumbo" ...

@ EatDirt. Odumba you say. You're traveling a few bricks shy of a load aren't you?

You know that Rummey started this with his animal abuse don't you?

So, here we have Eat Dirt insults Obama.... a man, I would venture to say, NO ONE on this thread knows personally. Then Daniel99887 insults Eat Dirt personally......seems kinda mean spirited to me. I mean, Eat Dirt did NOT insult Daniel99887...did he?

BillLumbergh: My daughter and her husband were in a store with their 2 year-old twin daughters. The one Daddy was carrying started to throw a tantrum, so he carried her, football style, out of the store. All the way, she was kicking and screaming, "Help me! Help me!" Not a single person stopped him to verify whether he was the father or a kidnapper. I think people just turn their heads and walk away because they don't want to get involved; it may take precious time out of their plans for the day.

Good case for teaching your kids about what to do if a real situation happened. I'm not sure what the experts say (by all means do what they say), but at least teaching them to yell something like "he's not my daddy", sounds like a good idea. Although I once dated a girl whose daughter was probably smart and bratty enough to yell "she's not my mommy" if she didn't get her way.

I think people are sometimes too selfish, like you say. But more often I think they're just sheep, too embarrassed, scared, or confused to do anything when an emergency situation comes up. I've seen the "deer in the headlights" in emergencies or critical situations quite a few times. It's a common phenomenon. And when one person steps up and starts taking action, then often other people will start actually doing something, following the first guy.

It is not uncommon to see a parent taking a screaming child out of the store. Actually teaching them to say" this is not my........." Is what the experts teach you to say. Also, are you more concerned that it was the husband that no one stopped? Bet if it was the wife and no one stopped her either... you would think nothing of it.

By the way... most child abductions are by a family member of a close trusted member of the family.... Children know them and trust them.... Stranger abductions are quite rare... Also, how would you prove it is your son? If I was in the middle of wrestling my three year old out of a store.... I would not thank anyone trying to stop me.... except for maybe a police officer.

Well, according to Mitt, it's better on the roof.

i guess it could of been worst, she could of tried to eat it.

I assume you are referring to President Obama? For your information, he was six when he was SERVED dog meat in a foreign country where it is not uncommon. Mitt on the other hand, was an adult when he gang attacked a fellow student and also an adult when he strapped his dog to the roof of a car on a long distance trip. So please don't try to compare President Obama to Mitt Romney, there is no comparison.

he wasnt an adult when he attacked another child. and he had the dog in an approved dog transport unit that was designed for that purpose.

but obama has admitted to eating a dog. dogs are not food.

Sorry...you lose. He was 18...legally an adult. And Obama was six. No he didn't deny it because he isn't a liar. But a six year old is not responsible for what they eat. They eat what is put in front of them. He didn't go out and kill the dog, shop for it, or prepare the meal.

Comparing the behavior of an 18 year old adult to the expected behavior of a six year old child is pure stupidity.

So I guess if the lady had put the child in an approved carrier, it would have been ok to put him on the roof?

Funny...I googled and tried to find approved dog transport units, and there aren't any to be found. Could you please provide the link to where you can purchase these "approved dog transport units"?

relly you nevrer seen hunting dogs being transporteed?

they sit nicely in crates mounted on the outside of vehicels.

but its ok to eat a dog because he was young, well this mother was young also so its ok what she did with her baby then.

The last I checked Jester, there is a huge difference between a 6-year old and a 19-year old. And some cultures breed dogs for food. And some cultures will kill a stray dog and eat it. Some cultures are so poor, they will eat anything they can find to eat. You need to get out and travel the world a bit. In Asia, dogs, snakes, civet cats... you name it, it is served on the menu! Some restaurants keep the snakes in a cage on the sidewalk outside the restaurant. When you order snake, they go get one and kill it and prepare it. When you are 6 years old, you eat what is put in front of you. When you are 19 years old and choose to have a baby, it is past time to grow up.

i agree descrs, but this all started cause they compaired this girls stuped act with mitts safe and legal transport of an animal.

there is a world of differance.

but its ok i still choose not to be interested in eating dog which to me is worst than a safe and legally transporting one.

but back to the story. this girl made a very stupid mistake that could of ended a lot worst than it did, this baby is very lucky and i hope this helps the girl sober up and get her life on the right track.

The gang members in new york stealing and then friended a cop on FB and got caught, that story wins hands down. it was on here (msnbc) yesterday.

How about the recent story of a woman spotting a naked man on top of another man eating his face off? And it took the cops shooting the guy 5 or 6 times before he stopped! I do believe he was using something besides pot. I think the victim is still in critical condition. I could not believe that story!!

He was useing BATH SALTS

I agree that parents sometimes make mistakes... but the fact that she was running around town... drunk and high with a baby is worse than being tired and stressed. I once left my oldest at home... didn't notice till I was at the daycare ready to drop him off. I was so tired I got ready packed a bag and drove myself to the daycare. He however was still asleep in his crib at home...

Another time, I drove to work and realized he was still with me when I got there... I plum forgot to go to the daycare center. Those are honest I am tired mistakes. But getting high is a choice.... not a mistake. unless someone slipped her drugs without knowing it.

I don't see how anybody could have "slipped" her the marijuana she smoked. And then she left the park with her boyfriend and went to a friend's house and smoked more pot. She should NOT get that child back until she has been drug-free for at least a year and proves she can provide for the child and stay clean. She sounds like trash to me.

Santa Clara: and her tubes tied.

You'd be surprised... it can be easy to even forget a baby on the roof of a car. My own mother did it, and she was a physician in her mid-30's. Being a mother is very stressful, and in her case my father was out of town and she was trying to get her 3 kids to school, pre-school, and day care on time so she wouldn't be late to her job at the hospital. I was in a basinette (this was before car seats) and she left me on the roof and started backing out of the driveway, scolding my brother for his nonstop talking as he was trying to tell her that I was still on the roof. Fortunately, he was able to "spit it out" and tell her before she got too far, but the point is that it happens even to the very best mothers. My mom is a WONDERFUL mother who never did drugs, rarely drank, rarely even raised her voice to us. She is generous, caring, and has the patience of Job. Sometimes life just gets the better of you and you make a mistake.

Was your mom at a party smoking pot and drinking at 1:00 AM? ............ before she took you to school? This is a 5 week old baby and she only had one. Under the Influence......