He said overdose on "some drug", not exctasy. You should work on reading comprehension.

Might make his music bearable. Nah.

Lets see....that's 189,999 for me, and 1 for your family

Barry's music is Ecstasy, a cold beer, and warm sunset all rolled into one...

sorry the public school system failed you, MissScarlet.

If anyone overdoses at a Manilow concert it is on Viagra, not Ecstasy.

Logistical question??...If you can and do overdose on Viagra, does it require an "open casket" funeral??

I have seen footage of a Manilow concert and one can only come to the conclusion they had to be on something.

Perfectly clear - the age for ecstacy use in California is sixteen.

This article is messed up and all over the place. They are ponying the article blaming corruption associated with a teenage girl's irresponsible behavior that led to a drug overdose?

Wasted journalism. Bad journalism.

The original article might sent a precedent, though...your teenage kid's life is only worth $175,000 or so in the court system if they die irresponsibly in a some sort of drug overdose. See why such lawsuits and predatory blame game behavior and the resulting reporting on it is no good all around, people?

This is an example of poor parenting and a disobedient child. What was the girl doing taking ecstacy? Why didn't the parents know where their daughter was? She obviously lied many times to go to this place and knew she was doing something wrong by taking an illegal drug. This just shows how personal responsibility in this country is just about GONE in many places.

WGC you hit it on the head. the only people bearing any responsibility here is the parents, but they get to sue? LAME-o parents should have been laughed all the way to their crack-house. parents (not all, most) i would say leave the parenting up to the local cops, schools, and a kid's peers to bring their kids up. if i picked on another kid at school, i found out quick what it was like. i didnt hit anyone unless it was in self defence. i respected my elders, and didnt mouth off. i learned to be courtious towards others, and understanding when it came to other than my own needs.

one last entitled/druggie/brat/future convict.... but the taxpayers got off light on this one. of course that sounds mean, and cruel.... but the persons responsible failed. her freinds.... they too failed. the person who let the bimbo in the front door failed. this more turned into a story of who was able to ripp off the city until they were caught story. it had little to nothing to do with the girl, just corruption. fail.....

Wasted journalism. Bad journalism.

The original article might sent a precedent, though...your teenage kid's life is only worth $175,000 or so in the court system if they die irresponsibly in a some sort of drug overdose

LOL you critique an article call it bad then show us you do not even know how to spell

How would you know? It's not a dumb comparison- the point is, they went after them because they were "evil" promoters.......unless the girl got her ex from the promoters, it's not their fault. And, most likely she knew she was underage but went anyway

Personal responsibility. The promoters didn't give the girl extasy. She took it of her own volition. Her fault. Not anyone else's. This sue-happy culture we're fostering is making our justice system look more and more like a joke and a get-rich-quick scheme rolled into one.

"Insomniac was sued for who we were, not what we did," he told The Times in a statement. "If Sasha Rodriguez had snuck into the Hollywood Bowl during a Barry Manilow concert and overdosed on some drug, there never would have been a lawsuit.

And this is exactly the point. Somebody just wanted to make some money in our oh so famous country where everything (yes, I mean people) sues everybody about everything.

What a bunch of crap. The parents should have been sued for being @!$%#ty parents not controlling their offspring!

The girls parents are gold digging scum.

Sorry for the loss of their child but the parents should be sued. I know some kids will continue to get into trouble but the parents need to take responsiblity for not knowing what event the child was attending, who she was going to be with, and what she was doing. Not likely this was a first time occurence for the child. Vendors should "counter-sue".

I give up on sarcasm.

Well said, GermanGem. No one FORCED Ecstasy on her!

Well said; that's exactly what I thought as I was reading the article. Can someone sue her parents for being crappy parents and not knowing what their daughter was doing and where she was doing it? I wouldn't have dared try to pull this when I was 15, because my parents were actually parents, 24/7, and knew about what I was doing, who I was hanging out with, what my friends were like, etc. And they damn well let me know that if I was doing things they didn't like, there would be some serious, serious consequences. Of course I didn't like it at the time, but now I look back and appreciate it very much. It says a lot about the state of our society when a concert promoter can be sued for a child's death instead of the parents taking responsibility and saying, 'yea, we screwed up, we should have known what she was up to that night'. They should donate every damn penny they are getting from this to a charity they think their daughter would have supported.

Yalehgrad, lets don't get uppity, my parents didn't know what was going on in my 15 year old brain and if your inside of 60 nether did yours. were just lucky to have survived it, but it certainly wasn't anybody else's fault. She was the one who took the drugs and she was also the minority of those who do use drugs who died from it and that sucks. but the parents and lawyers were totally misguided in this lawsuit. Economics forced their hand and thats a shame....peace

courts are usually just a way for irresponsible people to get money for being stupid.

Can someone sue her parents for being crappy parents and not knowing what their daughter was doing and where she was doing it?

The best parents in the world can't know what their kids are doing 24/7. Not that I think it is right to sue, just a fact.

My 4 kids all turned out quite well, but I am not stupid. I know they did things I was never aware of.

OK mom and dad I'm off to the rave. It's called the electric daisy carnival.

OK dear, make sure you drink plenty of water. Have fun!

With that said, it is weird that a large venue like this would allow such an event

Only in California! Add this to the lawsuit against McDonald's for the old lady holding a cup of hot coffee between her knees.

I agree with GermanGem and Yale. Exactly how is it that the promoters or anyone else involved with the concert are responsible for an underage kid attending the concert? Are they required to show IDs at the entrance. That wouldn't matter anyway, because they would use fake IDs. Did they give her the drug? No. Why aren't the promoters suing the parents for being irresponsible and allowing their daughter to attend a concert for which she was underage? Why wasn't this thrown out of the court in the first place?

I hope the greedy parents choke on their windfall cash that was gained as a result of their irresponsibility and stupidity.

old lady holding a cup of hot coffee between her knees.

1. She wasn't holding it between her legs.

2. The coffee was so hot she had to have skin grafts done due to the 3rd degree burns all over her legs.

3. When she sued, she only sued to have her medical bills paid.

These are not the same thing. She asked for a cup of coffee, not an illegal drug made by some junkie.

Youre absolutely right... but i wonder why you point out ethnicity. Doubt youd say it if both example were white

doesnt matter what race a person is, if your a negligent parent, its your own fault, and reap from the seeds you sow. not any more, however, it more like sue the person who let you plant the seed.

Not about that though. Its about not enforcing the rule of not letting anyone in under 16. They paid so they knew they were wrong no matter what they say.

breadex your wrong my friend. it's purely economic and the parents won't get 20k for their trouble. the settlement cost way way less than a trial would and its was just a matter of paying the parents lawyers. Lawyers gotta make their props, just saying.....peace

@Jeffrey & JOregon well said!

This article is messed up and all over the place. They are ponying the article blaming corruption associated with a teenage girl's irresponsible behavior that led to a drug overdose?

Wasted journalism. Bad journalism.

The original article might sent a precedent, though...your teenage kid's life is only worth $175,000 or so in the court system if they die irresponsibly in a some sort of drug overdose. See why such lawsuits and predatory blame game behavior and the resulting reporting on it is no good all around, people?

Things like this don't set a precedent. Only lawsuits about something new such as roe vs. wade set a precedent... Precedent means first, this is by far not the first time a place has been sued for someone overdosing, learn the definition of a word before using it.

Petra- maybe you should know what you are talking about before pointing finger. "Spanic" is not a word in the English dictionary, Einstein. Go check for yourself, if you can figure out how to do it.

where were the parents. probably off smokin a little dope or drinkin a little beer and like the majority of parents that i see have no clue what their kids are up to. Till the kid gets busted for drugs, DWI, or runs into a light pole playing the fast and the stupidous on the main street killing a kid sitting in the front seat. But then there are so many kids that have so much to deal with. girlfriend preggers and too lazy to get a job, just too easy to suck off mom and dad. Yeah theres a lot of parents out there that have no clue. And now the generation coming up from parents that have no clue is going to turn into exactly what? Forgot the ones that move in together and everybody gets a low payin job and they sit around playing xbox. They are referred to as gamers. What a waste.

but on the light side there are all those mimes in california that keep getting shot and killed. and that is terrible cause as you know a mime is a terrible thing to waste.

Or how many kids from the local high school died in drunk driving accidents after graduation. We have two here. Really sad funerals, everybody sad. What a waste.

No, it's you, Rick, who should work on your reading skills. From the article: "Insomniac was sued for who we were, not what we did," he told The Times in a statement. "If Sasha Rodriguez had snuck into the Hollywood Bowl during a Barry Manilow concert and overdosed on some drug, there never would have been a lawsuit."

That's the part of the article that Prejean303 and OP were talking about. Reading is fundamental.

I love how some people get all uppity and try to rain on someone else's parade but only succeed in making themselves look like nimrods!!! Rick....FAIL... Reading comprehension 101!!!!

perhaps the venue was at fault for allowing a 15 year-old to enter the rave

And even that is pretty damn iffy. How do you tell the difference between 15 and 16-year-olds?

If they ever lower your kid into the ground, maybe you'll understand what hell really is.

our soldiers don't get sh**. they just buried one in a cardboard box in florida. isn't that lovely?

German Gem, The only problem I see with your 'logic" is that you seem to know every person in this country, which of course you don't. Therefore you are hardly entitled to lump them into groups.

You have to realize that there are people of all ethnicities and races that benefit from frivolous lawsuits.

you are correct piglizard, my apologies

GermanGem....you generalize too much. the story about a cardboard box you're referring to applies to ONE guy. and using you 'appalled' argument, you could also complain about why these 'heroic' soldiers are just buried to begin with. why not immortalized them by building statues for every single one of them?.....i'ts a cardboard box, the body will decompose anyway, who cares how someone was buried

The family cares....really....you asked that LMFAO.

What if that was your dad they tried to stuff in a cardboard box? And its not just ONE guy...remember a while back when they discovered the remains of soldiers were being dumped in a landfill?

Its a @!$%#ing disgrace and to think otherwise makes you less than human.

no one was 'stuffed' in a cardboard box. you probably liken the phrase "cardboard box' to the ones your television or refrigerators come in. this is far from accurate. the boxes used for cadavers are way more sturdy and are meant to resemble coffins. personally, i would not care if my dad or mom were 'stuffed' in a cardboard box. at that point theyre no longer living. i see no point in a funeral procession that costs thousands of dollars, when i can take that money an apply it towards a worthy cause, such as helping poor families.

i really dont have any sympathy for soldiers, after all, they VOLUNTEERED for this. and before you go on a rant about how they are "fighting for my freedoms," understand that they really are not. not once have the freedoms of US citizens have been threatened, not since the war of 1812. to feel threatened by small group of terrorists half a world away is just ignorance. you know we had no business invading any country in the middle east. the day our rights are threatened is when someone actually tries to take over us as a people and impose their will on us. and dont think i wont be fight to the death IF that ever happens, but it's highly unlikely

babble. Like it or not, lawyers and judges serve their purpose. If Americans choose to sue people over garbage like this, that is their choosing but enough with the scapegoating

Lawyers are not the only scumbags in this country

I absolutely could not agree with you more! I'm sorry the girl passed, and for the family, but seriously- it was her OWN fault she was somewhere she had no business being. And it's their own faults for being craplousy parents to not pay attention where she was going!

Yeah you could think of it that way, but here is something else to think about.

I see everyone talking about personal responsibility here. Sure a long time ago parents taught their children right from wrong as well as responsibility. But that was in the past, in todays world a lot of parents tend to take a backseat to schools and television when it comes to raising kids. To them having children has been an inconvenience in their lives. I would bet top dollar that there is a higher majority of parents who never really wanted to be parents in the first place.

As far as the promoters are concerned, there was an age restriction for attending this rave. If the promoters made certain the people that were at the doors actually checked to make sure the only ones attending were of the age required, then its logical to assume that this girl would be alive today. If she hadnt made it into the venue in the first place, she wouldnt have taken the drug.

With that being said, the blame for this girls death could be a shared responsibility with the promoters and the parents. They both made serious mistakes in judgement that cost this girl her life.

As far as the child owning up to their responsibility...wow...really? Their daughter paid the ultimate price for her mistakes. Now maybe its time for the rest of the responsible parties to own up.

Id like to hear that the parents donated the award to drug awareness programs for children in their community. That could go a long way in helping with their grieving process.

I would personally feel guilty making a financial gain from the loss of my child. To donate it is a good idea and probably could go a long way to helping others

this country is going to go bankrupt if it continues along its current path. Believe me I know the hispanic problem is just one of many problems. I don't blame the people at all, I blame our government. go ahead and name call all you want, none of this negatively affects me I just feel bad for those it does.

The "hispanic problem"... nice.

'Hispanic problem'? So, German girl, are Hispanics the new Jews?

When it comes down to which racial group has the largest proportion of illegal immigrants in this country...sorry, but that would by far and away be Hispanics. Calling it the "Hispanic problem" may not be PC enough for you, but there aren't too many ways to call a spade a spade.

That being said, it doesn't say anywhere in this article that this girl or her parents were illegals, however considering the HIGH concentration of illegal Hispanic immigrants in LA, it's quite possible they might be.

Illegal immigrants are in no way the majority of folk of hispanic descent in LA or pretty well anywhere in California. Many are even (GASP!) white as your golf balls, "friend."

White supremacy=LOLLL. You are vanilla living in a chocolate-caramel world. Deal with it.

And no I'm not racist. It's called, welcome to the 21st century, where people treat other human beings like people!

There are 50 million Hispanics in the United States. There are 12 million undocumented immigrants. The rest are citizens. And in California, many members of the Hispanic population have been around longer than the white population. Remember, California wasn't always a part of the United States. When we took over the land, we got the citizens too. They have a legal and moral right to be here.

When you open your mouth and say something like, "Hispanic problem," you look like a fool and you should be prepared to be mocked like one. At some point you're going to have to grow up and live in the real world.

Germy went on vacation to Africa once, but she left early because there were too many minorities there, blocking up the view...

ignorance is bliss chem, until the bottom falls out, and it will

learn how to spell diatribe

and for the record fellas I have a bachelors degree in Poly Sci from a LIBERAL arts college in Pennsylvania, and my fav vacation spots are aruba, italy, and vegas:) Mexico was fun until they started kidnapping americans.

Dear racist,

Uh... I spelled Germy correctly.

It is a reference to your attitude regarding minorities, which resembles a contagion. IMHO.

It is not ignorant to state that the vast majority of people of Hispanic descent in this country are either here on legal visas, or are citizens. That is simply a fact. If you choose to ignore the truth of that statement, you are the ignorant one. The root word of ignorance is ignore. It refers, not so much to someone who simply is unaware of the facts in a given circumstance, but to one that chooses to ignore them when they disagree with that individuals paradigm.

PS- Your ethnocentrism is showing.

Diatribe I am not racist. So stop your gibberish. I am however against illegal immigration and all that goes with it. My paternal grandparents came here lawfully from Italy via Ellis Island. They worked hard, learned english, and raised 12 kids, without a dime from the government. Right now our economy can't support the excessive expense associated with illegal immigration. It WILL cause an economic collapse if something isn't done.

No, you are correct. Hispanics are multicultural. You are an ethnocentrist. You assumed that because this, now deceased, girl's last name is Rodriguez, that this story is somehow related to the issue of illegal immigration. That is patently ignorant. I would think that someone who claims to have a degree in Political Science would have the good sense to avoid logical fallacies. Otherwise you would have to be ignorant of the facts regarding the Hispanic demographic, not only in California, but in all of the Southwestern U.S., OR simply a bigot. So which is it? Are you a simpleton, or simply bigoted.

It matters not where your paternal grandparents came from. You are making sweeping assumptions about the people involved in the case this article references without any basis. This article contained virtually NO factual evidence to support your speculations, and even included another unrelated case. The article was written poorly, but your commentary, IMO has been just in poor taste.

Illegal immigration is another issue entirely.

its not about that Titan, its about soaking the system

'soaking the system'...and to which system are you exactly referring? i guess in your eyes a concert promoter company is this system.

its all interelated jones, but narrow minded people don't see that

frivilous lawsuits will ultimately be paid for by US, via increased prices

lawsuits against a business or company is paid by "their" insurance company not the government or US.

If they do not have insurance, the board of members, VP, CEO... etc can get sued.

How Lawyers work, is just disgusting. I am not surprise they do not sue the city the concert was held in.

Even than the government is still not going to pay. Only if the insurance they have does not cover the amount in the lawsuit.

Another case of apparent abuse of the tort system and astronomical damages was reported a few weeks ago in Australia, where a family that could not even prove they really ate at a KFC restaurant was awarded $8 million because of salmonella that one girl reportedly caught by eating a chicken wrap. No proof of purchase, no initial report to the hospital and doctors that attended her about having eaten at KFC, no complaints from other customers about getting sick...the girl may have very well gotten the salmonella from any food she ate anywhere else, but the deep-pockets of KFC were held responsible despite the inability to even prove they ate there.

I'm going to be that guy for a minute.

"went," is not a participle. "gone," is, so the phrase would be, "she would've gone..."

Furthermore, "would" is a conditional phrase, not a subjunctive one, so it really should be, "she had gone."

If you see the word "if," don't use the word "would" until you see the word, "then."

So, a proper statement would be:

"If she HAD GONE to the street corner... then her parents WOULD have sued someone else."

I see people misuse would a lot, but "would've went," is particularly bad. We need to learn appreciation for education in this country. We used to be considered the best. Now we lag way behind. Of course, uneducated people are easier to brainwash, so there's that...

I believe this girl and her parents are responsible for her actions, not the company. I agree with those that say we need to learn to be more responsible for ourselves. Part of that is demanding and participating in education for ourselves and our children.

She and her parents are responsible for her death. Perhaps that is the reason for the, seemingly, small settlement. The article never quite makes clear what the civil (settlement reached in court; nobody went to prison) charges in the case were. My guess would be the promoters were sued for not responsibly ensuring that no underage people were attending their event.

well said xsited1. its a free-for-all and blame game. they are all gonna be in for a rude surprise if china takes over.

Oh, 'Germy,' you are always good for a two-handed face-grab. Now it's China...? Really...?

What's a 2 handed face-grab?

really....?

She said china, not China. She fears we will be overtaken by food consumption equipment.

I agree with the need for personal responsibility. I believe it is true that many people blame others and refuse to take responsibility for themselves. But that goes both ways.

George W. Bush is responsible for his time as president and like it or not, it has already occurred. The economy was devastated under his administration. We're still recovering today. Nothing is going to magically go back in time and absolve GWB of his responsibility for his part in the Great Recession. While you're preaching about responsibility, you can learn to practice it. Bush was responsible for his actions and for his area of authority. That's the way the world works. By the time you become an adult, you have hopefully learned to be responsible for yourself. A hundred years from now, people are still going to be blaming Bush for the mess. A hundred years from now, it will still be his fault. You can't turn back the clock no matter how much you want. He was responsible, he failed, and the country paid for it. That's the way it is. Trying to wish it away won't work.

RE:25.5

Oh, right. My bad.

Leroy,

Two handed face grab:

The grabbing of the face in frustration, usually utilizing one hand but sometimes two, in extreme cases, on an occasion at which voicing one's response would be ill received, or simply would be useless due to not being heard at all. For instance when speaking to someone like Germy who obviously suffers from a severe deficit in reasoning ability, and/or selective understanding of reality.

Again, the promoter was apparently held responsible, not for the death of a young girl by ecstasy overdose, but for not adequately securing their event from underage attendees.

hey Leroy my love:) I thought maybe he wanted to kiss me lmao

these 2 realy get their jollies bashing people, its very sad.

Well said; in total agreement.