I agree. "O'Mara also said he plans to emphasize in court that Zimmerman has been otherwise "forthright and cooperative" during investigations by law enforcement." Uh huh sure, he has told lie after lie, but somehow his lawyer sees that as being "forthright". Slime representing a bigger slime.

So he knowingly lied to the court about his finances, yet we are supposed to take his word for what happened between him and Martin - right!!!!! And as for him being forthright about everything else as his lawyer claims, what about the second passport he neglected to mention to the court?!?!?! This guy is a lying piece of garbage and nothing he says can be trusted.

Seems as if he even lied to his lawyer. Not fair to O'Mara who was his spokesman at the bond hearing.

He may have lied to his lawyer, but now his lawyer has ALL that money, some quarter-of-a-milion-dollars worth!

Good luck on seeing even one penny of THAT money again, Zimmerman.

Plus, Zimmerman's Dad is a Judge, so that family can't be broke. It looked a whole lot like they raised money so that when Zimmerman fled prosecution he wouldn't be taking any money from the family chest!

Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!

Non-story. The Lawyer is the prosecutor doing his job and making a rebound from the indictment sheet riduculed by legal scholars. The slick switch from prosecutor is a fresh opportunity to keep the lynch mob rolling.

well well now the lawyer knew about this too. so much for his credibility also. hope the judge says NO!!! to a new bail hearing

TO: Billie Mazza who wrote:

"well well now the lawyer knew about this too. so much for his credibility also. hope the judge says NO!!! to a new bail hearing."

Me too Billie, but, I think the United States Constitution provides to all Americans the right to reasonable bail.

However, there could be a chance that the judge denies the request for reasonable bail NOT just because of the hidden money, but there's also an issue with Zimmerman having a 2nd Passport which he got within days after committing the murder.

All put together, it really looks like Zimmerman was ready to fly the coop.

Just sayin.......

Let's see. Assaulting a cop, beating a woman, killing a minor, lying to the court...what a piece of trash Zimmerman is. A thug.

All that money should be turned over to the Martin family. ZING!!

What irony that would be. Fools who supported Zim and their money are soon parted.

I feel better that this control freak douche-bag is behind bars, and will most likely stay there for a long, long time. I'm sure he'll love it in general population, because there are no racists there.

And now his actions could have his wife behind bars, too. Such a "special" guy he is.

D B Akrin, you are dead on. I did not even think they had enough to go forward with a 2nd degree murder charge. Nuts. Now the lunch mob is back in action.

G Zimmerman should not be denied to have another hearing on his bail. This is not a 1st degree homicide case. However the court should allow this to be entered into evidence during trial. Unfortunately, it will be very hard for the defense to define the difference between mis-representing versus lying under oath (which he did). This may hurt him more than he thinks.

Al though the sentence may not be much, but he definitely move the verdict toward guilt significantly... Previously he had a chance, but the game has definitely changed.... all due to his unwillingness to adhere to rules and his own stupidity, proven to be his downfall again.

Where are the chumps that are claiming his innocence???? No, he is unaware of lying under oath???? G Zimmerman's choice had severe consequences. It took a life of an innocent teenager. It altered the lives of the immediate families (including his own) for the worse. And it has altered the landscape for NRA and the regional "Stand Your Ground" laws.

A racist and his money are soon parted. Zimmerman has joined the other shearers who fleece the conservative flock. Youbetcha!

If he can't afford to hide out with independent finances, then he needs to stay in jail where he can get three hots and a cot at city expense. He obviously been living well by looking at his weight gain. Some jail house oatmeal and green baloney will slim him down.

Stalking a black youth, then shooting him. He would have been better off being a man and taking the @ssbeating, both would be alive today.

DB Akron, sandra-brooks: This was Zimmerman's own attorney, not the prosecutor, who admitted that his client has damaged his credibility. Zimmerman has been deceitful all along, with a changing story, a past history of racist statements, and now an attempt to hide hundreds of thousands of dollars from the court.

These are the facts.

Well well well....This will be the last high profile case of this lawyers career

yupp... just put the body under the rug...move along...

He doesn't listen to 911 and lies to the court. Trend?

He seems to have little faith in the system.

Seems funny knowing his dad is a Judge. You would think he would do just the opposite in both scenarios. Anyways

Here my opinion: He showed trayvon the gun told him he was something he wasn't and demanded he wait till the police arrive. Trayvon freaked and went ballistic on him.

I think it will turn into a story where everyone loses in the end.

Roy----Are you considering Zimmerman's version of events that tragic night as a fact?

Ken said:

Did any of you read the story? He did not have access to the money. It was disclosed 5 days after the bond hearing and here it is a month later and now it is an issue?

The issue here is partially the money, mostly the honesty. The judge would not have revoked the bail and sent Zimmerman back to prison if he hadn't heard jailhouse tapes of Zimmerman speaking in code to his wife about misrepresenting their finances. Staying silent when she told the judge they didn't have significant funds for bond indicates complicity in a cover-up. If his wife was not under oath at the time she legally can't be charged (maybe a fine) but the greater responsibility lay with Zimmerman himself, knowing that his entire defense rests on his credibility as to what happened that night because no one saw the confrontation start. Transparency and humility are his most important weapons here now and he's just thrown one away.

If he was going to flee he had his opprtunity and did not take it. I don't blame him one bit. Think about if you were in his shoes. You just became public enemy number one on pure specualtion. Innocent until proven guilty, right. Has to go into hiding, his whole family too.

Did you read the entire statement? He couldn't flee, he has a GPS monitoring bracelet AND he has to check in!

He has also complied with all conditions of his release, including curfew, keeping in touch with his supervising officers, and maintaining his GPS monitoring, without violation.

They make them with steel threads running through the band now, almost impossible to cut through!

The scum bag media only shows an angelic looking 13 year old picture on the news, not the gangster looking 17 year old punk with gold teeth and tattoos that he was. Also no more mention of his tweets about beating up a bus driver.

Martin did not have gold teeth, though he did have a few tats. You DO realize that the Facebook page for the person with the handle 'No Limit Nigga' is not the Trayvon Martin that was shot, right? In a country of 312 million people, you don't think there might be two people with the same name?

If he beat up a bus driver there would have been a police report and the school would have known and the police would have known. There is no solid/legal evidence that this ever happened; Orange Co FL has unequivocally asserted that Martin DID NOT HAVE a record with them, juvenile or otherwise, and no pending cases. If, as is commonly thought, the cops were covering for Zimmerman and not doing their job they would have released that detail in a jiffy to skew the case in Zimmerman's favor. This is a rumor unsubstantiated by law enforcement so I will not accept it as fact until it's admitted in evidence.

Keep drinking the Kool aid. I would rather wait to see the facts before I condemn someone.

But isn't that what you've already done? In the clip of your comments above, you label Martin a 'gangster looking 17 year old punk with gold teeth and tattoos' which indicates that, contrary to what you state, you have either consciously or subconsciously already decided Martin was guilty of instigating an altercation that night before the trial and revelation of all the facts.

@George Hayduke Sr

Reading American Girl's posts doesn't appear that American Girl want Zimmerman hanged quickly. I think you are putting words into other people's mouth.

She clearly stated that "it really looks like Zimmerman was ready to fly the coop." That is hardly the same has hanging G Zimmerman. In fact, it has ZERO resmeblance to Eva Braun matter. It seems to me that your interpretations of people who disagree with your are evil, and there is ZERO chance that others are right. Unfortunately, in our world, the world has multiple shades. In this case, the judge will do his best to ensure that the People will have a chance to present their case while the defense team will have a chance to defend their presumed innocence.

Unfortunately, some idiots believe they deserve more because they are who they are... G Zimmerman clearly thought he did not have to share his financial information and passport status with the court. Why? Who care, but it is clear that he chose not to tell the truth. Does it matter? Not in the short run, but it will hurt him in the long run of the case, because the prosecution will most likely show that he acts with violence, he acts without facts, and most importantly he has zero credibility... If he was not going to fly the coop, then why lie about 2 critical items that can be interpreted as flight risks???

I believe you're rushing to judgement of facts and people.

Sorry about my typos in previous comment 1.24, was in a hurry and didn't spell check. Don't convict me based on those errors. But I guess that's not possible since my comments won't be appreciated by too many at this blog.

So his wife perjured herself? Charge her!

@ Sall Rocks Classically, I don't think anyone is making this politically except a few zealous and trolling ones. Those know who they are. Just because we interpret the facts differently doesn't make one liberal nor conservative. YOU ARE MAKING THIS POLITICAL! SHAME ON YOU.

Have the guts to call it what it is. How is it that no liberals is saying that you're driven by the KKK, the Neo-Cons or the Republicans? So spare us the rehetoric, and allow the blog to be civil. If you truely care about debate or discussion, then you would not have attempeted to silence other through accusation of being political or racial... It is simply absurd.

@ MDB123, unfortunately I believe everyone already lost.

@ America Today-Anthony, you did read the article right? The defense attorney stated that G Zimmerman knowingly misrepresented his financial situation under oath before the judge during his bail hearing.... It is not about his wife's bad decision. It is not about people looking for blood.

It is about G Zimmerman make a WILLFUL DECESION TO LIE UNDER OATH. Are you suggesting that people should have harsh opinions in reregards to an accused person lying under oath in regards to his flight risk status? Are you nuts? It sure didn't stop you accusing G Zimmerman's wife and people out for G Zimmerman's blood?... like you suggested, I am just pointing out the obvious....

you all have thoughtful comments "Roy----Are you considering Zimmerman's version of events that tragic night as a fact?"

Mostly, I'm considering the 911 transcript and the injuries to Zimmerman that seem consistent with him being attacked by Martin, as well as reported independent eye-witness testimony.

We don't have Martin's version, since he's dead, but I have yet to see anything that disagrees with Zimmerman's version.

MDB said:

I think it will turn into a story where everyone loses in the end.

You think it will? It already has!

Zimmerman lost--while he isn't dead, his peace of mind, his anonymity, his ability to be 'just another person' is lost. For the rest of his life he will have to look at himself in the mirror, whether he's acquitted and the nirror is in his bathroom at home or if he's convicted of whatever and the mirror is in jail--he will have to look at the reflection looking back at him and know that the person he sees shot and killed an unarmed kid. His parents have lost too-they will forever be known as 'Zimmerman's parents' and not 'Judge Zimmerman and his wife' and they will forever be asking themselves where did they go wrong raising their boy?

Zimmerman's first attorneys lost too; not the client but their reputation. Zimmerman's case was career suicide for them when they couldn't control him, couldn't keep him from setting up this defense fund to begin with.

The Sanford police department has lost too. I read the reports and saw no misconduct by the cops, yet popular opinion is against them and their reputation and credibility with the citizens of Sanford will suffer. Minorities may be just a little slower to call them in an emergency and it could cost a life.

The prosecutor Angela Corey has lost too. Regardless of whether she wins or loses the case, public opinion won't leave it be. She's either the villainess of the piece or the heroine, this is hotly divisive, and even after the case she's going to be under scrutiny, and possible death threats.

This nation has lost; by using race to define the case instead of justice, we've exposed the seedy underbelly of the unspoken racism and hatred still hanging on since the civil rights days, and the appearance of equality here is just that; an appearance. We've taken strides but he haven't eliminated racism, it'll take longer and one wonders if we ever will. When will we stop being black, white, yellow, brown, red, gay, straight, male, female, transgender, poor, rich, Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Pagan--and just be people?

And last, but not least; Martin lost his life. His parents lost a son. The world lost a life that could have turned out to be another Martin Luther King, another Booker T Washington, another Shaquille O'Neill or Ray Lewis. And Martin's father's girlfriend's young 13 year old son has lost someone who, despite his flaws, was a surrogate older brother who went out on a rainy night to get his little brother candy and never came home.

Chad probably blames himself--if he hadn't asked for candy, Martin might not have gone out that rainy evening and been killed. Chad is going to grow up apranoid, sure that every time he turns around and sees someone walking the sidewalk behind him that person could shoot him like his big brother was shot. And one day he will have a gun, and the person walking behind him will be shot, and it will be yet another tragedy on top of this whole damn-ass sorry frakkin' mess!

guess i need to load my gun... take my meds...do a little neighbor hoodie watch...nothing bad will happen...

@ Bullfighter, well said!!! The current information are not about the case, but simply information to allw the public and the future juror to build their interrupretation of G Zimmerman's creditility as a witness. At this point, there is a question as to G Zimmerman's ability to speak the WHOLE TRUTH and nothing but the truth.

The prosecution is not about to tip his hand in regards to available evidence against the defense (and vice versa). We will not get all the presented facts until they air the trial... This is about the media building up a fight... Push the presecution and then push the defense ... It is about the eyeballs.. Yes, I am definitely part of the problem.

@ America Today-Anthony, Do you see Mrs. Zimmerman on trial? If not, then what is your point in regards to the recorded conversations between the Zimmerman couple. The fact remains, G Zimmerman LIED UNDER OATH DURING HIS BOND HEARING. HE ADMITTED. Again stop spinning! It is not that hard of a story to read. So why can't you admit it!!!! If his wife is not accused, then she is not part of the FACT THAT G ZIMMERMAN willfully misrepresented his status before the court!!!!!

GEEZ!

Ok I will kill this thread like the last 5 this week.

1 minute and 20 seconds.

He was supposedly chasing Trayvon. He was on the phone with 911. If you listen to the tape you can hear this. The dispatcher tells him to go back to the street and wait for the officer. You can hear him stop. You can hear him say ok. Then he hangs up. 35 seconds later another 911 call states that two men are fighting at Trayvons death scene.

So are you going to tell me Zimmerman hung up the phone, chased down Trayvon, dragged him back to the scene, let Trayvon beat him about the head and the face, and let Trayvon get his hand on the gun. According to evidence it was about 10 seconds later gun shot was heard.

Forensic evidence verifies eye witness testimony that the gun shot happened after the two men were seen struggling. Eye witness testimony verifies that two men were struggling before the gun shot. 911 calls sets up the timing.

And anyone here with an IQ over 80 cant see that Trayvon came back to confront Zimmerman. We are talking about 35 seconds and the released evidence shows Trayvon's path during the supposed chase.

Why did he double back?

You dolts explain to me how Zimmerman is Superman and can do the impossible and I will believe that Trayvon didnt come back and attack Zimmerman.

I have killed 5 threads by the hands of MSN. Dont expect this one to last. They dont like the truth spelled out so clearly.

Roy---- In one of Zimmerman's statements (learned publicly from the questioning of the lead investigator), Zimmerman said that he manage to move (scoot) from the sidewalk onto the grass and that is where the shooting took place. In his original statement Zimmerman said he shot Trayvon when his head was being pounded on the concrete sidewalk.

Ok to those who are backing this guy listen up. There is a lot of bad information being spread around that you are believeing that is not true such as the the web site they claim was his. This guy is a nut case. Look at his stare. The case has to be tried in court not public opinion because there are just too many people out there that think killing a minority is ok if you have some white blood in you. Now as to this part of the case ...he has admitted the fact so has his lawyer which is strange but this could have been a non factor had he and his lawyer discussed it. The money he hid was for his defense and could have not been considered in the amout used to set his bail had the asked for an exclusion. This was donated money to be used for his defense. If you include that money in setting his bond he cannot use it if it is put up for bond thus he would not have money to pay his lawyers etc. All in all what he should have done was listen to what the watch guy told him and let the police handle the situation in the first place but he looks like one of those people who is not playing with all the cards and he got himself into a real bad situation and took a young mans life that was just beginning.

well put Amanda...

How many of you fools defending him on here donated your money to him? If you believe Trayvon having an insignificant amount of Marijuana in his system is important, then how do you feel about this clown lying in court? Considering minorities make up a large percentage of the prison population, he might want to use some of the money he raised on KY Jelly.

America Today-Anthony - Great for you for "killing this thread" whatever that means. He doubled back, and evidence showing this? What evidence? Are you privy to some evidence that no one else has? You have no proof he "doubled back". None. So please, stfu. You have no idea what happened.

"O'Mara also said he plans to emphasize in court that Zimmerman has been otherwise "forthright and cooperative" during investigations by law enforcement."

So he didn't also lie about his second passport?

Ok I will kill this thread like the last 5 this week.

You haven't stated anything in your post that would effectively shut down an argument that all the evidence this far is against Zimmerman. There are NO EYEWITNESS testimony. No one saw the confrontation at all, the one that claimed he had has recanted. There will be testimony from Martins' girlfriend who was on the phone at the time of the confrontation. During that call she heard both Martin and Zimmerman speaking which completely obliterates Zimmermans account that he was suckerpunched from behind. And as it stands her credibility is a hell of a lot better than Zimmermans. The real forensic evidence will come out at the trial and contrary to the Zimmerman sympathizers belief it is not in his favor. It is a simple fact that had Zimmerman stayed in his vehicle the situation would have never occured, thus eliminating any "Stand Your Ground" defense.

@ Brenda1964, wrote "...it sounds like you guys are saying because he lied about his finances then how can we trust him about his recollection of how the events went down..." Yes, that is exactly what I am suggesting. This is not a random lie nor an innocent white lie. This was about lies he told specifically under oath in front of a judge that we entrusted to preside justice for the case. The judge gave a decision that was presumed to be fair and equitible for all parties involved.

It turns out that was INCORRECT. The evidences were falsified. Hence the fair and equitible balance was tipped because someone CHOSE to lie to gain an edge. Disoucnting the fairness, can you squarely sit there and say that the witness will speak 100% truth despite his past history of dishonesty? You may say that he was not going to flee!!!! Yes, I probably agree, then more the case why he would LIE if the stake if so insignificant???

Is he that ignorant? Unfortunately, ignorance is not part of the plead.

Long story short, yes, it absolutely provide fuel to the fire. Ultimately, it was by his own admission.

@ SirCheese, "killing this thread" by America Today-Anthony probably means he has many alias or handles. This way he can vote out a particualr thread... Like I mentioned, it should be clear that certain people believe rules are for others, not themselves.

Look I base my thoughts because of a death of a friend of mine who's killer was on the phone with 911 and he had his criminal justice degree. Not based on some stupid conservative or liberal stance, they are a sickness that plaques this country.

I do think we need an honest conversation of the racially motivated callousness that began this media frenzy. Black community jumped the gun in the same manner Zimmerman did. However would a trial of happened otherwise?

O but I do think he profiled him just not in the manner it was initially portrayed.

Liberals and conservatives please leave America alone. Conquer some other country. You guys are to good at it, tearing this country apart.

Follow these people's comments and you will see a stark connection between their political affiliation. Media sells the news! All media! Baaahaaaa

R.I.P. Jay
I named my daughter after ya.

America Today-Anthony.....guess you missed the part about Zimmerman and his wife talking in code on the phone about how to hide the money.

No,

I have posted the same account of the information and MSN kills the thread. 2 times on this thread of Zimmerman being brought back because of revoke of bond alone.

Sorry for being dramatic. Was just saying what I posted would probably get removed again. I wasnt killing the thread. MSN kills the thread after I post.

Chris,

You dont know about the almost witnesses?

How about the person that called 911 when they saw Trayvon and Zimmerman struggling on the ground.

How about the one you will use in an argument against me stating it sounds like Trayvon crying for help?

All in 1 minute 20 seconds.

Please post something relevant.

plain bob post 1.39; just when I thought plain bob was starting to read too much of his own poetry - he comes through with a solid effort... Fanfare for the Common Man.

MM.

If you read my first post I put forth that Zimmerman was talking in code trying to get his wife to quit being stupid.

He also admitted the cash to the authorities before the authorities came for him.

You can look at the passport but it is normal for a person to lose the passport and get another one. If you get a new drivers license would you turn in all of the ones you have at home or just your active one?

Again Zimmerman admitted of its existence.

What do you people want from this guy?

Lets have you non believers discount the forensic evidence of the bullet wound.

Do you people think he called 911, stalked the boy, dragged him back to the death scene, let Trayvon get his hands on the gun, and then shot him?

You must be believers that this was a hate crime.

I just wish the KKK called 911 before hanging a black kid.....

We could finally take these racists to justice.

Have you seen the episode of South Park denouncing the Book of Mormon?

Same thing applies here.

Dumb, dumb, dumb!

Geez, how many times are you gonna kill the thread??

LMAO!!!!

I'd like to hear on this 'Comments' vine from one of the conservative, far right nitwits who donated money to this puffy-faced fool and why you thought it was so necessary to help him along with his defense fund. I think the supporters of Trevon Martin would like to 'THANK-YOU' for your contribution of putting him behind bars where he belongs, undermining his credibility and perhaps swaying a jury of convicting him! Your generosity has helped him spend $30,000 of your money to live it up in hiding and the rest into his attorney's pockets where they'll have a field day with it, then eventually stuff this murderer behind bars where he belongs!

Thank you for your donations to the Zimmerman 'Live-it-up-oops-it-ain't-no-longer-my-mine's-fund!"

Some of you need to start using copy and paste, from the 25 other articles on this topic that you commented on, then you won't have to re-type it every time... Roy LOL.

we want skittle's...and a little justice would be nice...a triple post...right up above brainbramage...

I did some research on the about this Zimmerman character and his little journey through community college... Do you know what this guy got on most of his exams...?

Taco Sauce...!

AC,

I hope one day you are judged on a murder charge by what you didnt do in school.

I wont ever lower myself to your level by making one of the myriad of stupid jokes that you deserve.

Gnight.

The article uses euphemisms to describe Zimmerman's actions regarding his finances, saying that he "allowed his finances to be misstated" and that his girlfriend "misled" the court in this regard.

What actually happened is that both Zimmerman and his girlfriend lied to the court. Isn't lying to a court of law considered perjury?...or, at the very least, contempt of court? (And please don't respond by saying that he was not yet under oath; lying to a court is still lying to a court.).

Zimmerman's attorney boasts that Zimmerman was quite willing to talk to police etc about the events that took place. What the attorney does NOT say is whether Zimmerman lied to the police just as he lied to the court.

Zimmerman has already demonstrated that he's a liar, and he certainly has reason enough to try to do so. But someone on his side ought to let him know that lying is the worst course of action he could take.

Noelle,

Zimmerman has the RIGHT to be silent in court...he doesn't have to testify or say a word!

Prosecutors argued that Zimmerman's wife, Shellie, misled the court about the couple's financial picture

Yet they punish Zimmerman.........sure, satisfying the lynch mob......

everyone is just upset that anyone would give him money to fight these false charges.

Now, how much money have the parents of Trayvon made off of their sons death? No double standard there! Hypocrites!

So Georgie Boy knew that he was "stretching the truth"-- and he knew his wife was lying about their finances. I wonder if his Daddy and Mommy Dearest were in on it. It was probably Daddy Dearest's idea to lie. Bet the whole family-- and Brother Dearest-- lie like cheap rugs and cheat at playing cards too.

I just wonder how honorable a judge Daddy Dearest was-- he probably isn't very honorable today. Unless it is in his feeble mind-- the feeble minds of every one of them.

I hope they get to the bottom of this and throw the whole fam damily in the crossbar hotel. Separate rooms, of course.

The shooting in February of Martin, 17, who was unarmed, triggered a nationwide debate about whether race was involved in the shooting. Martin was black, while Zimmerman is the son of a white man and a woman from Peru.

I see MSNBC is still race baiting! Yet they haven't found time to post a current photo of Trayvon? This is outrageous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 93% of black murders are committed by other blacks and no one from the black community bats an eye!

What about the black man that ATE OFF the white mans face?

What about the black man who just murdered his 2 month old son?

You are all so busy worrying about Zimmerman you could care less! If Zimmerman was black, this would be a NON ISSUE!

Crickets....

Bail is not set to punish an individual, it is set to guarantee a person will appear and I see absolutely nothing that remotely suggests that the defendant would have done anything other than to appear as he voluntarily turned in himself to authorities. Although his family may have put down 15,000$ cash for bail, it was a collateral set for the 150,000$ bond the court set in case of default.

To suggest this in anyway changes the fact that the defendant not only has medical proof the haters say didn't exist of the beating but he also passed lie detector tests which had absolutely nothing to do with the bail hearing. The defendant is being illegally incarcerated by a hate group led by an incompetent district attorney that will lose not just this case, but her own credibility as an unbiased participant in judicial proceedings in the future.

Yeah, I'm pretty dumb. I'll admit it. B/c I am not privy to the information that law enforcement or the judicial system has, but I hope that a trial begins, and a verdict is handed down by a juror of peers or judge, whatever. I view the situation as sad, I hope that the information is made public for our own peace of minds to make an educated and thougtful response. I am confident that Mr. Zimmerman has time to process that day and the events that led up to this kids death, over and over and over. Would he had done anything different?

Zimmerman, I’ve got some really good advice for you. GET A NEW LAWYER! This guy you have now is selling you out and is obviously pursuing his own agenda.

@ FedupwithFed, G Zimmerman has every right to remain silent through out his hearings and trial, but he did not. He filled out paperwork that declared his financial position. He willfully turned over one of his passports. In both cases, those are responses he chose to reply to. His reply or his action of turning over declared documents showed that he did not disclosed the whole truth. Under the oath, it specifically say "the whole truth and nothing but the truth."

Why is it so hard that people don't admit that he lied or he F'ed up! Then move on!!! Here you have to defend his innoicence when there clearly is none (in regards to his initial bail hearing).

So now you choose to slander the Treyvon's family by accusing them of profiting from their son's death???? DO YOU HAVE EVIDENCE???? WOULD YOU SHARE IT WITH US READERS????? OR ARE YOU THROWING CRAP AROUND AND HOPE SOMETHING STICKS!!!! Sounds like the latter to me. There has been ZERO reports so far, but really appreciate insight to your intent with your WEAK diversion... again.

To FedupwitFed, you make it seem like all of those people are walking around the street after committing those crimes! Who doesn't care? Blacks care about all crime since we all are Americans, but if you feel like it needs to be specialized then please interject the White crimes into your argument also. Did you bat an eye? Stop looping all of the Black community with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton! They don't speak for me. Does David Duke speak for you? I'm going to use something for you and America Today-Anthony, if O.J. was White, would you care about him over 15 years later? (That's for your liberal media statement, AT-A, when O.J. was on trial(1994) wasn't he 'guilty' by the same media!) Crickets.....

Zimmerman has already been tried and convicted by the media and black America. The only reason he was arrested and charged was to prevent rioting.

There are two indisputable facts:

1. Zimmerman initiated the engagement with Martin.

2. Zimmerman killed Martin.

@ Mike: clarification, the district attorney is not involved in this case. It is a state attorney, Angela Corey, specially assigned by Govenor Rick Scott. I believe she worked a more populated region than the previous prosecutor.

@ Just a different POV: I believe G Zimmerman has already said to the effect that he thought about his action of that day over and over. There was no question that he would have done things different now knowing the outcome. There was much sincere regret from his response. Of course, there has not been much coming out from his camp, because his lawyer(s) want to clamp down on leaks and things that can be used against G Zimmerman during trial.

It is very important to note that the prosecution team is extremely quiet, almost unusally quiet. This is the type of case that will make you or break you... just ask Marcia Clark.

Has anyone noticed that the only comments "collapsed by the community" are those that are the most logical and are not about hatred but a fair trial? Like DB Akron, Ken..., George Hayduke, Sally Rocks Classically. One of this country's best known defense attorneys, Alan Dershowitz, stated that the prosecutor in this case "has a reputation for over charging"..."she was picked to prevent a riot"..."clearly this case was overcharged"...he further stated that evidence in favor of Zimmerman was ignored but statements not in fact and those never to be disclosed by a prosecutor were presented to the media. Clearly this prosecutor was trying to hang Zimmerman and poison the chances of a fair trial. Showing pictures of Trayvon as a 12 year old are totally unrelated to the person Trayvon had become and is totally unfair. In the pictures that the entire world has seen he is just an angelic little boy. If photos of the average member of the public were shown the little boy photos, they would recognize this as Trayvon. But if you showed them the actual current photos of Trayvon smiling with the gold teeth, they would likely not know who it is. In reality Trayvon was much bigger than Zimmerman, many inches taller and did in fact did have tattoos and a mouth full of gold teeth. His parents even submitted a current photo to CBS showing Trayvon with the gold teeth. Note that when you do see a current photo of Trayvon now, he is NOT smiling...because it would show the gold teeth. For every time they show a more current photo of Trayvon, they show his "baby" picture 7 or 8 times. It has no relevance what Trayvon looked like at 12 anymore than would a picture of Zimmerman as a 12 year old. Talk of candy and ice tea also has no relevance. Do you think that liking sweets makes it impossible to be involved in any criminal activity? I pay close attention to this case, I have seen two different photos of Trayvon on different networks showing the gold teeth but they do it rarely. If they were the wrong person, they would have had to have made a retraction since the pro prosecution faction would demand it.

Do you know that the Martins quickly sealed Trayvon's school records? You don't get to learn anything about Trayvon, only every detail right or wrong about Zimmerman. Anyone who thinks Zimmerman was living the high life while out on bail is out of their mind. He is a hunted man. It's like house arrest.

I would like to know what any of you would do if someone surprised you with a punch to the face then had you on the ground pounding your head against the concrete. Would you really wonder about such things as "is this person armed?", "maybe this person will stop beating me soon before I pass out or get a concussion"...if this happened to you and you had a gun, I think you would be reaching for it in real fear that your life might be short lived if you cannot defend yourself. I'm sure Zimmerman was terrified and I'm sure Trayvon had no idea that this little man might be armed. This story could have turned out very different. Trayvon could have noticed the gun taken it away from Zimmerman and shot him with it in which case none of us would be having this discussion as it would NOT have become national news story...but only another murder of local interest.

Trayvon could have simply said something like "hey @!$%#, I don't like your questions, I don't like you following me, I am going to my relative's house right over there so get lost". Unfortunately Trayvon had left the angelic 12 year old behind and preferred to play Mr. Badass gangster type. It was a real bad choice.

"Unfortunately Trayvon had left the angelic 12 year old behind and preferred to play Mr. Badass gangster type. It was a real bad choice."

Nice to know there is an advocate for a fair trial commenting, who was an actual eyewitness to the event.

Anthony we have already established that there were no eyewitnesses at all. The one so called eyewitness recanted. But regardless of your pathetic attempts at making yourself and your lil hero Zimmerman look credible, the fact remains that this was nothing more than some over zealous vigilante style act that will land Zimmerman in prison. Forensic evidence thus far has only provided evidence in support of the prosecution, and that's only the evidence thus far released.

You dont know about the almost witnesses?

How about the person that called 911 when they saw Trayvon and Zimmerman struggling on the ground.

LMAO... "almost witnesses"... desperate at best. And the so called eyewitness you reference here has recanted. Whereas the witness the prosecution will call (Martins' girlfriend who was on the phone at the time the contact was initiated) will destroy any of the "almost witnesses" testimony. Zimmermans credibility is beyond repair at this point as are most of the "almost witnesses" whose accounts have changed every time they have been told.

America Today-Anthony

Making you, what? Of that 5% than can? A lot of information was NOT from this article - it was from an article several months back...in case you missed it.

Appears you have something to say about others peoples posting...negative attitude? YOU are right and others are wrong...pfftt -

@ rtb-780938, would you like to explain why do you keep promoting falsify information and photos when many of the photos have already been proven FALSE? See below

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/martin.asp

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/247194/19/Fake-Trayvon-Martin-picture-circulates-on-the-web-image-actually-shows-a-different-person

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/03/27/when_in_doubt_smear_the_dead_kid.html

Here is a link to some verified photos of Trayvo Martin: http://wavenewspapers.com/collection_187ade86-7a32-11e1-a258-001a4bcf6878.html

http://www.wtsp.com/news/photo-gallery.aspx?storyid=247584

Unfortunately, you represent a group of politically motivated "RIGHT WING" group as indicated through the article below promoting FALSE information and to entrench racial division. It is the likes of you and the people you worship such as those you previously name... Self promotion and hope through shear repeitition that you will continue the war against minorities.... SHAME ON YOU. Here are an article that is clearly false, yet have many of people such as you don't have a problem of continue promoting... LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE. You can even see some of the doctored phots... SHAME ON YOU, of course that doesn't bother you, because you think it is simply the cost of your war. SIGH...

http://rightwingnews.com/crime/the-fake-trayvon-martin-flipping-the-bird-pic-vs-the-real-trayvon-martin-flipping-the-bird-pic/

http://the-american-journal.com/trayvon-tattoos-gold-teeth-drugs-violence/

*** "WHEN IN DOUBT SMEAR THE DEAD KID" ***

rtb and America Today-Anthony seem to communicate using a similar level of intelligence and may very well be one in the same.

Posting by: America Today-Anthony

Comment collapsed by the community , Comment collapsed by the community, Comment collapsed by the community - having a bad day, eh?

This TRULY shows what this man KNOWS at times and is willing to lie about misrepresent and cover up. What a sick man to PROFIT off of killing a CHILD. You see we now KNOW Travon was not what Mr. Zimmerman said he was, he was not a criminal and did not have a weapon or anything to harm anyone unless you count Skittles on himself. ; ]PA THET IC indeed.

I foresee him remaining in jail WITHOUT bond for the year his attorney plans on drawing this case out for. Not such a good idea now is it Mr. Zimmerman. Because YOU thought you would be out for a year now your already starting your sentence.

PRICELESS.... ; ]

Cheers

What really is sad about this very bad situation and makes me scream and pull hair out. Here we have an @!$%# with a gun, stalking and terrorizing A young man, and then murdering him in cold blood. And now people are actually donating money toonhim. This is Casey Anthony all over again except he blamed him victim for causing him to kill him. Anthony blamed everyone else. These two derange individuals, should be in jail, for the rest of their lives.

typical conservative maneuver, bank away the bucks and then lie about having anything, shoot first and claim his life was in jeopardy and then attempt to apologize for his actions. That's ok Georgie there's alot of folks in prison you can probably convince of your innocence. Gotta love these conservative goons don't ya? Conservatism: the act of thinking with as few brain cells as humanly possible

America Today Anthony said:

1 minute and 20 seconds.

He was supposedly chasing Trayvon. He was on the phone with 911. If you listen to the tape you can hear this. The dispatcher tells him to go back to the street and wait for the officer. You can hear him stop. You can hear him say ok. Then he hangs up. 35 seconds later another 911 call states that two men are fighting at Trayvons death scene.

So are you going to tell me Zimmerman hung up the phone, chased down Trayvon, dragged him back to the scene, let Trayvon beat him about the head and the face, and let Trayvon get his hand on the gun. According to evidence it was about 10 seconds later gun shot was heard.

Given the narrow time window, I believe it is most likely that Zimmerman changed his mind after hanging up with 911. He may have continued to follow Martin, as Martin's girlfriend has testified she heard Martin say over the phone, 'Why are you following me?' and Zimmerman responded back 'What are you doing here?' at which time the phone went dead. I believe at this point that Martin may have responded with a remark to the effect of 'mind your own business' or 'none of your business' and at that point the altercation started. If we take the word of Martin's girlfriend (which I'm inclined to but I will admit the possibility of her being biased as well so it is not 100% reliable proof) Zimmerman never identified himself as neighborhood watch. Martin, as an occasional guest to the community over the last 2 years (the length of time his father has been seeing the griefriend who lived here) would have known about the neighborhood watch but never have had dealings with them.

Forensic evidence verifies eye witness testimony that the gun shot happened after the two men were seen struggling. Eye witness testimony verifies that two men were struggling before the gun shot. 911 calls sets up the timing.

Eyewitness testimony and 911 calls say two men are struggling and the timestamp on the calls set up the timing as well.

And anyone here with an IQ over 80 cant see that Trayvon came back to confront Zimmerman. We are talking about 35 seconds and the released evidence shows Trayvon's path during the supposed chase.

I haven't seen Martin's flght path. Can you let me know where I might find that?

I'm not going to say that Zimmerman was entirely guilty, and I'm not going to say that Zimmerman was entirely innocent. I will say that I believe that the original police findings of negligent manslaughter were correct, and I do thingk that's the way this will end up. Irregardless of who said what first, who approacehed who first, and who 'started it', two people made some bad decisions that night that led to the death of one, and Zimmerman, as the holder of the gun and having 26 years of life under his belt, had the greater responsibility to act calmly and rationally to avoid conflict and did not.

This would mean nothing if the whole case didn't depend on credibility ... but in the looney toon state of Florida ... be it be counting simple votes ... or putting away an obvious baby killer ... all bets are off!!!!!!!

Read yesterday that the passports were in the lawyer's possession, not Zimmerman's. Also, the money donated is for Zimmerman's defense costs. It wasn't there for the Zimmerman's personal use, therefore, they were basing their responses as to their finances as their actual, personal, finances as being indigent. I always thought bail was set on what the risk is of the person fleeing, and if the person was a danger to the general public, not on how much money they have/had.

No matter what, this trial is about the shooting, not about his finances or passport. Any discussion of those items should not even be discussed in the course of the trial. Apples and oranges.

Amanda: I have heard the tape with a conversation between Zimmerman and the dispatcher, and no doubt it will (SHOULD) be presented in court, of Zimmerman talking to the dispatcher as he walked back to his car, saying that he had lost sight of Trayvon...he didn't know where he was. He also agreed to wait by "the mailboxes" for a police cruiser to arrive. It was seconds later, after ending the dispatcher conversation, that Trayvon blindsided Zimmerman coming up to him on his left, with a punch to his face, breaking his nose and knocking him to the ground. That audio tape was played on TV and I also read the transcript of it. So, we'll just have to wait and see......

Aggie-345886 ... this is not about the moneys availability ... this is about deliberate and open deception to the court in reference to the money ... please try to see through your emotional defense and focus on the facts ....

Anyone wonder why the full head of hair now? I really want to see the scars of the injury that was so bad it justified murdering a young man.

@ Aggie, if the case is based upon available evidence and statements from eyewitness. Then the credibility of the eyewitnesses are crucial. So where do you get off claiming that the witness such as G Zimmerman past is not applicable. If what you're saying is true, then why not take in statements from all convicted felons in regarding related cases???? So in this case, if you're assuming that everything that G Zimmerman said was 100% accurate. If that is the case, then why did he lie about his financial situation at the time of the bail hearing????

The defense fund is for defense, not a get out of jail card. In another words, making the bail is not part of defense. You can defend a client while he/she remains in jail.

Again, think before you post!

@ thturd:

"The defense fund is for defense, not a get out of jail card. In another words, making the bail is not part of defense..."

EXACTLY...it was NOT to "get out of jail" It is "for (his) defense". NOT bail as so many are saying. You just made my point...thanks.

As far as your comment to me about G. Zimmerman's past...you are addressing that to the wrong person. I never said word one about his past. NOR about any eyewitnesses.

So back attchha. Think before you post...at least comprehend what you read and WHO wrote it!

America Today-Anthony

Ok I will kill this thread like the last 5 this week.

1 minute and 20 seconds.

He was supposedly chasing Trayvon. He was on the phone with 911. If you listen to the tape you can hear this. The dispatcher tells him to go back to the street and wait for the officer. You can hear him stop. You can hear him say ok. Then he hangs up. 35 seconds later another 911 call states that two men are fighting at Trayvons death scene.

So are you going to tell me Zimmerman hung up the phone, chased down Trayvon, dragged him back to the scene, let Trayvon beat him about the head and the face, and let Trayvon get his hand on the gun. According to evidence it was about 10 seconds later gun shot was heard.

Forensic evidence verifies eye witness testimony that the gun shot happened after the two men were seen struggling. Eye witness testimony verifies that two men were struggling before the gun shot. 911 calls sets up the timing.

And anyone here with an IQ over 80 cant see that Trayvon came back to confront Zimmerman. We are talking about 35 seconds and the released evidence shows Trayvon's path during the supposed chase.

Why did he double back?

You dolts explain to me how Zimmerman is Superman and can do the impossible and I will believe that Trayvon didnt come back and attack Zimmerman.

I have killed 5 threads by the hands of MSN. Dont expect this one to last. They dont like the truth spelled out so

1st how can u hear someone stop. See yes but hear ? Perhaps slowed down but unless you are there or have video i just don't know how you or anyone can tell someone stop with certainty just by audio alone.

2nd, what have u indicated in your post that martin came back and no one can answer this next Q. Why would martin want to come back ? What possible motive would he want to come back if he has already left sight of zimmerman ?

There is a real motive for zimmerman to keep up with martin and wanting to detain him so the cops can Q him which is reasonable to believe that zimmerman pursued martin.

@ Aggie, sorry. my opinion stated on #1.97 was in response to your #1.93 comment "...No matter what, this trial is about the shooting, not about his finances or passport. Any discussion of those items should not even be discussed in the course of the trial. Apples and oranges."

G Zimmerman's non-disclosure of his new finance and his 2nd passport can and should be used as an indication of a person's character, because it is of recent historic value, and of the defendant's response under duress. The defendant chose to withhold infomation to misdirect the opinion of the court and the judge. So, I highly disagree you in regards to G Zimmerman's past, because they are not "Apples and oranges."

He had to admit it and make Zimmerman seem sorry. His statement was geared towards the potential jury pool. He doesn't want them to have the impression that his client is a lying scumbag. Too little too late though.

At least his lawyer told the truth, and wtf, the lawyer has the $250,000 now, so the longer his client is in jail, the more of the $250,000 the lawyer gets to keep.

When Zimmerman lied, he virtually lost all that money, AND his freedom!

You are correct. It is a strategy that his attorney is using to make GZ seem to have been confused. GZ was trying to hide that account from his attorney and use it for his own living expenses. He's such a jerk that he allowed his parents and grandmother to use their homes as collateral knowing that the money was available. He's also trying to take the blame in hopes that the state won't go after his wife.

He had no choice BUT to tell the truth, it was completely obvious Zimmerman had lied. Damage control 101.

o'mara was smart--if he had fudged in any way it would have made things worse. the lawyer is good. it's his client who's a mess.

His lawyer did what any good lawyer would do....he had no other recourse...this is simply damage control, not done for you or me, but a jury...

How can people not know about this fund? How did his lawyer not know? Or the judge, or any other officer of the court?

I mean, gee whiz, I even knew about it, and I'm not necessarily the most "clued in" person around! When it was announced that a fund had been set up by him for his defense before he had even been charged with anything, I thought it was suspicious then.

It's even more suspicious that not one of those court officers (including the attorneys) did not have a clue that this fund didn't exist. Bizarre.

Well part of the fund still existed... I mean come on now... $50,000.00 to stay anonymous for a few months? $20,000.00 cash assets? You have got to be kidding me. A 1 bedroom apartment and food for a year can be had for less than half that amount. Sounds like he was living it up on the money of those ignorant enough to defend him.

Although several posters have praised lawyer O'Mara, I think he sucks. And I'm a 34-year criminal defense attorney. Here are excerpts from this article of what Mr. O'Mara said:

In the statement, O'Mara said Zimmerman acknowledges that he "allowed his financial situation to be misstated in court." "The audio recordings of Mr. Zimmerman's phone conversations while in jail make it clear that Mr. Zimmerman knew a significant sum had been raised," O'Mara said Monday. O'Mara said the failure to disclose the funds was motivated by fear and other pressures related to the case. "Mr. Zimmerman understands that this mistake has undermined his credibility, which he will have to work to repair," O'Mara said.

"He allowed his financial situation to be misstated in court?" Both Zimmerman and his wife colluded to misrepresent their financial picture and did so. O'Mara implies that this kind of stuff just happens, but his client did more than fail to disclose material mistatements of fact, he just didn't correct that which he knew to be false. No matter how O'Mara tries to characterize this, Mr. Zimmerman was not just a passive victim of the actions of others. O'Mara's attempt to state this in the passive sense is rhetorical garbage that conceals the full extent of Zimmerman's and his wife's skullduggery.

"O'Mara said the failure to disclose the funds was motivated by fear and other pressures related to the case." "Failure to disclose?" You mean his lie, don't you Mr. O'Mara, because he didn't just listen to others, he himself made statements he knew to be false? Do you mean to say, Mr. O'Mara, that Zimmerman's feared of having to remain in jail and the pressures of having to raise money for his defense caused Mr. Zimmerman to lie? So those kind of life difficulties just forced Mr. Zimmerman to like, like it always forces everyone to lie to a court, right , Mr. O'Mara?

Counselor, your stupid, unconvincing rhetoric aside, your client is a self-serving, lying punk and a gun-happy, racist stalker.

Counselor Marowitz, I don't really understand your post. If YOU were Zimmerman's attorney, would you come out and say, ". . . your (my) client is a self-serving, lying punk and a gun-happy, racist stalker" as you wrote in your note? Of course not! You would be trying to soften the blow of your client's stupidity. It appears that's just what Counselor O'Mara has tried to do.

I don't agree with him (as obviously you don't either). However, in this country everyone has a right to an attorney to represent him or her. I certainly wouldn't expect my attorney to behave as if he were a prosecutor trying my case, which seems to be what your are implying O'Mara should be doing.

Seems to me that oftentimes attorneys just have to take whatever hand they are dealt. Even if not in agreement, the attorney still has to represent his/her clients as well as he/she can.

What would you have expected O'Mara to do differently?

Judging from the revelations here, seems to me that George Zimmerman was the real thug all along; not Trayvon Martin. Trayvon's problem: He was dressing/walking like the people he identifies with. Zimmerman was actively scheming how to pull the wool over the trial judge, the lawyers, the public, and ultimately on Trayvon. Look ... you can plainly see the guilt on Zimmerman's face on all the photos taken of him so far. Those shifty eyes, head down with eyes pointed at the corner of his eye -- just a remarkable amount of guilt Zimmerman cannot adequately hide.

Sad.

The stock price of soap-on-a-rope manufacturing companies skyrocketed today upon revelation of Zimmerman's misinforming the trial judge.

I never trusted the so call man from the beginning. It amazes me how many people would support his cause, when they will not even help feed starving kids. Some people will never learn. I wonder if they would still have donated if it had happened to one of their family members. God Bless them all

"lying punk and a gun-happy, racist stalker."

Thanks for the disinterested insight.

I got news for the judge and prosecutor. Bail is based on flight risk. Also Zimmerman will have the money he needs. His donations have increased since Sunday.

"Living expenses-secure location"- I guess that 50K is being spent on Executive Suites in Posh-guest only- locations. Lets see that's 4 yrs of MY mortgage payments.

okieMan-90210, $50K is more like... 20 yars of your mortgage payments... BECAUSE YOU'RE IN OKLAHOMA!

bwaahahaha, you set yerself up fer that one...

Tacowurst farts.

burrrrrrrrito burst...

You can lie about farts, but you cain't hide them...

George Zimmerman lies the same way he farts. He'll prolly explode if he tries holding all his hot air. Just like the "No Laughing" esipode of the original Beavis-n-ButtHead.

The truth did emerge and now Zimmerman is in jail. Are you saying that isn't true?

@charlesjones725 - There are still two sides to the story that the court has to mediate.

I'd be willing to bet anyone that if he is tried for Murder 2, he will be acquitted. Manslaughter, yes. Murder 2, no way. Any takers?

Manslaughter is a lesser included charge in this case.

well what do ya' expect from a... over zealous heat pack'n medicated neighbor hoodie watch guy...skittles...

Misscreant - No it is not. This is an all or nothing charge from the State. Check the file.

SurlyVoter

This whole thing is amusing.

Tragedy that results in the death of a Black person is usually amusing to racially prejudiced people

A drugged up teenager. No evidence of that unless you are calling traces of marijuana in his blood as being drugged up. If that's the case some of the posters here are drugged up should they be executed? Also we don't know what drugs Zimmerman was on do we?

A Hispanic with anger issues. Whats amusing to me is when someone calls a white person from another country names like Hispanic instead of white. Do you consider people who have a white parent from the US and a white parent from Canada of Mixed race I live in Florida and Cubans for example will tell you that they are either black or white usually white although I'll bet they've have had their eyes opened about how mainstream american white people feel about them

group of racial arsonists looking to make a buck. He already made 204000 dollars Complete with an ambulance chaser trying to file a lawsuit against a man that has no money And obviously no regard for the law Did you read the article

I agree with the poster that justice will be served when he has to pay the Martin's in the wrongful death suit Heck Ill bet the thought of that will kill the cash flow pouring in from people who want to see Zimmerman free LMAOF Top it off with the fact that George Zimmerman is being held on 2nd degree murder charges that according to every great legal mind in this country both conservative and liberal I say let him go his days are numbered either way.... as they should be-

Yet some of you sit ooking a diatribe of racism. What are you saying here? Are you high?

He will walk. He will not die of old age mark my words

They overcharged him in order to get him to take a plea. Let him go the plea might allow him to live a few more days

If he takes a plea it will be for time served. I hope your right

Crump and his crime family will file a lawsuit, lose WHAT CRIME FAMILY and Trayvon's mother will have to go back to her $80K per year job. She has an 80K a year job wow how did you come up with that

No Miscreant, manslaughter is a lesser included charge in every case that charges murder, not just this case.

Yes, Michael, I know that. I had to specify because there are people on here who are so stupid they would ask, "Yeah, but did they do it for this case?" Look at NavyRetired2003's post at 4.7. I rest my case.

Misscreant............Zimmerman is innocent of 2nd degree murder unless the jury is made up of Jesse Jackasses and greaseball idiots!

10 percent of 150,000 is 15k...just sayin

Yep, you can bond out for 10% of wait your bail is in most if not all states. He will make bond again, it will be higher this time. But he has the $$$$.

That money will be secured as a $150,000 cash bond, so he will be broke again with no hideout funds. It's cheper to stay in prison then the halfway house room he was probably staying in.

Yes, the amount he paid was $15,000 but the bail itself was set fo 150k, not 15k.

You sound like a left winger, no one will help you. You have to be a rightie to get this kind of treatment.

have ya' looked into skittle delivery...to supplement your income...hoodie sales are thru the roof...

nice, bob...

yupp... i wanted to buy casey anthony's car and charge people to have their picture taken in the trunk...could have paid off my...troll booth early...

SurlyVoter

In addition to the 10% - they want collateral for the balance of the bail...say a mortgage against someone’s house...theirs or his parents? Especially in his case. That guarantees he shows up for court.

Zimm, the Fox News hero, probably raised money directly from Hannity, Bill O' and the rest of the "fair and Balanced" gang...

This case will come down to the legal theory of Res Ipsa Loquitur, translated as the evidence speaks for itself, and the evidence seems to show that GZ was the one who was attacked, there is no other evidence that has been provided that would show otherwise. The State of Florida must prove all the elements of the crime of Second Degree Murder, and from the evidence we have been provided they cant prove their case. Whether or not GZ mislead the Court as to his finances will have no bearing on the facts of the case.

So, he let his wife lie for him. What a prince. A dishonest, murdering prince.

He lied by omission.

Don't forget about his homies that went to jail for him and didn't rat him out...

crizin956 misleading/lying to a judge does get bail revoked

TO: cruzin596 who wrote:

"Did he actually lie? ... He allowed the monetary situation to be misrepresented ... he will not be found guilty of 2nd degree - not with the penalty that it carries) - they should have gone with manslaughter."

When you're talking about your freedom, a pile of money ($250,000 in cash), and a murdered child, it looked to me like Zimmerman was ready to run, and Judge's REALLY don't like it when a person "allows" a "situation to be misrepresented" to the Court.

To American Girl:

If he was "ready to run" as you call it, then why wasn't he gone already?

He turned himself in for a second time- just like a person who believes that they are right and will be found not guilty when he goes to court.

Cruzin596

Lies of omission are still lies. You sound like the kind of guy who would pick up a prostitute on the way over to a friends and then when asked by your wife "What did you do tonight?" wouldn't think you were lying if you said "I went to my friend's." I'm sure your wife would feel differently if she found out. She would rightfully call you a liar.

TO: cmdr358 who wrote:

"To American Girl: If he was "ready to run" as you call it, then why wasn't he gone already?

He turned himself in for a second time- just like a person who believes that they are right and will be found not guilty when he goes to court."

Maybe for the same reason that O.J. Simpson didn't get away either. O.J. had his passport and $10,000 in cash, but got caught in the slow chase on the freeway.

When folks do things like Zimmerman did, the cops don't take their eyes off of you. They watch to see what his reaction is going to be, and this guy got his duplicate passport and lot of cash together too, just like O.J.

cmdr358 - Because people have to sensationalize this "non-story". This would have ALL be taken care of if they would have just called the brother like ASKED to. Yes he knows he may have "misrepresented" NOW because he didn't scream up and down but it's not like they did not attempt to clarify it at the bond heard. Also the JUDGE didn't know how to handle this so what did GZ and his wife think? Is this money they "have" to report or is it just for the lawyer? They TOOK OUT A 2nd mortgage for crying out loud. People cannot see the forest for the trees here. People need to drop this 2nd passport issue as well. GZ gave it up to his attorney AND the money right away. This was all known about weeks ago yet you drop a bomb on Omara at 8:30am in the morning so he has ZERO time to prepare. Plus the filing omits the entire part about saying to call the brother. Why?

The only reason Zimmerman hadn't run yet was because he was being watched by cops. He was probably getting ready to make his run for the border when they ordered him back to jail.

What does a murderer give a crap about a 2nd mortgage when he knows he's running away from that house anyway and won't ever be able to return. He's getting his money out of that house and ready to run and never come back, looks to me.

TO dan123dan123dan123 who wrote:

"... Plus the filing omits the entire part about saying to call the brother. Why?"

Umm, because he wanted to say goodbye to his brother, and see ya in Mexico?

Considering that this man is being made out to be a horrible racist who set out looking for "a young black child" to "stalk and murder", is being villified in the media, by the public, religious zealots and the Martin family, I think I get why he would try to make sure there was some money to be able to hide away from those who would have him drawn, quartered and hung!! Oh, yeah....not to mention having a"HIT" put out on him. Some say that threat is not credible. Well, just go tell that to the elderly couple and their family that were terrorized by Spike Lee's followers!!! Multiply their distress a thousand tiimes over and you'll have the life GZ is living now. He gained weight since he got out of jail?? DUH, when you can't go to work, talk a walk anywhere, show your face in a gym, a mall etc.. your going to be sitting around doing nothing and..... YEAH you'd gain weight. The truth is that the posters out to damn him don't have any more clue what is going on his mind then anybody else and unless your psychic or a mind reader your speculation doesn't mean @!$%#. that includes the speculation that he planned to run which is ridiculous as if he was gonna do it he'd a been gone long, long ago.

What do you mean, "you don't think so"...HE SAID HE LIED...Duh

Some people will skip parts they don't want to believe in order to support their OWN agenda.

I hope the jury don't be as laxed about what is or isn't considered being honest with the court, as you are.

@ world:

He seamed to know about the money he took 30K out to live on and if he did not have a GPS monitor on his ankle he would have been gone so fast all you would have seen is dust. All so if the judge had not found out about he money look at good he could have lived, no house payment laying on the beach and thumbing his nose at the world. He's right where he needs to be.

He took 50k out to live on. 30k initially (did he buy a house? I mean seriously) and another 20k cash later.

Sheesh...what kind of house do you think you buy for that little money??? And who is going to sell GZ a house at this time for anything less than cashing it out completely?? Then keeping that transaction on the downlow?? NOT.

Rufnek-he had money long before he went to jail, long before he was released with the monitor. He can obviously watch the news, read on the internet, see what public opinion is right here among other places. Some of you all think his dad is so rich because he was a judge,( look up a judge of his types salary, not as significant as you think.) IF he was gonna run based on the media, public opinion and threats against his life and of those he cares for HE WOULD ALREADY BE GONE. What part of that don't people seem to get. He stayed and turned himself in not once but twice now. For all the mistakes he's made that says he does have some decency and honesty to face up to it when he could have already run.

Whether or not he was mistaken about the money, or even if he lied about the money, it doesnt have any bearing regarding the trial, this will never be brought up at trial. The only thing that will matter at trial is the evidence, and the State of Florida will have to prove all the elements of the crime of Second Degree Murder against GZ, if they cant, he will be found not guilty by directed verdict. Zimmerman doesnt have to take the stand or even open his mouth, its up to the prosecution to prove their case.

Eldridge

He s going free !!!!!!!

You mean by mixing with the general prison population? Who is going to protect him? The Aryans? The Mexicans?

Oh wow Eldridge how witty and special your comments are.

..free falling!

Eldrige

Maybe you can join his mama on the "Po Little Trayvon Tour".

The fool called 911 which is connected to Police, Fire, Ambulance----same thing!!!!! He was given direct order's NOT to follow the boy....the idiot did. You need to take your med's and go to bed!!

TM was beatting GZ's head into the ground. What would you do if someone was beatting your head into the ground? I would do the same thing GZ did. I would shoot the rascal and stop him from beatting my head into the ground. Knowone has the right to beat on you or me. If they do you or I have the right to stop them with whatever force we have to use to stop them. GZ should be free and should not have ever been charged in the first place.

What Zimmerman did was legal. What happened is a 6' plus young man high on pot decided to attack the wrong man and ended up paying with his life.

what would you do if some gun tote'n medicated dumb ass creep was following you...all he seen ya' do was walk down the street...he turn it into a foot pursuit...wonder whose action lead to this happening...

He did not call 911, as has been stated and verified over and over. He called the PD directly through a landline not connected to the 911 dispatch. Like 911 all calls to the PD are recorded which is where the recordings originate from. It is not clear if it was an officer or a dispatcher on the line, but if you ignore the dispatcher the legal liability lies with you not the PD. If he had followed instructions (both dispatch and neighborhood watch policy) and stayed in his vehicle the situation that resulted in Martins death would never have occured. There is no stand your ground defense (even the NRA who basically authored the law say this does not qualify as SYG) and as such there is no way to justify the homicide commited by Zimmerman. Seeing as he left the vehicle armed (a conscious decision) this is a solid 2nd Degree murder case. You don't pursue someone with a firearm unless you intend to use it. You observe (from a distance) and report. No civilian anywhere has the authority to pursue anyone outside of their property.

Just my 2 cents, which are worth as much as everybody elses 2 cents. If Im Zimmerman, Im going to say that the dispatcher asking "which way did he run" was taken as a request to find out which way he ran, which would have required me to get out of the car and follow him, and according to the 911 tape, as soon as that statement was made, we hear the door open and the door chime on the tape. Very hard to disprove.

Perhaps you have a reading comprehension problem. It stated that there was 150k transferred to the legal defense fund after 30k was initially taken for living and another 20k liquid assets later. That means that 50k out of 204k was already gone before O'Mara got ahold of it. Leaving 154k in the fund that Zimmerman now has no direct access to. Now the question is, why the hell would you need 50k to live on for a few months?

I was referring to the writer's summary of the attorney's statement, as contained in her article. Her article makes no mention whatsoever of the $154,000. Novogrod's article says that $20,000 was kept liquid for legal expenses, but the written statement says that $20,000 was kept liquid for living expenses. So one of those statements has to be wrong. Do you contend that Novograd's article accurately tracks the written statement with regards to the $20,000?

Why would Zimmerman need liquid assets for legal expenses? That is the entire purpose of a legel defense fund after all.

Legal** Defense fund... forgive my spelling. It is late.

Maybe he'll be able to claim an incompetent attorney and have any guilty verdict set aside. Or maybe his attorney is just crazy like a fox?

Gosh, what if the attorney was just being HONEST? It might have been a tactic on his part to lessen the blow to the judge's ear.

If you had a client brought up on Murder charges who lied to every authority figure he has so far come into contact with and refused to listen to counsel... Wouldn't you want a way out? Telling the truth about your client is in no way irresponsible. Lieing to the court in a way that could be demonstrably proven false however would ruin Mr O'Maras' career.

Kirigami

ACK - you used HONEST and Attorney in same sentence! /grins

Ah, yes, Renee, I see what you mean!

I do have a bias, though. My sister is an attorney, and she is a person of the highest standards and integrity. It (almost) makes me wonder where those nasty lawyer jokes come from. Although, I have been in court with her and witnessed some real sleazeballs and their dirty tricks.

On the very small chance he gets acquitted, he will have to hide out for the rest of his life. If he goes to prison he will have to stay in solitary protective custody. He's screwed for life. That's poetic justice for a racist.

The only way GZ will be acquitted is if the people in FL. are brain dead.

GZ was told not to follow TM and he did. As a resident watch member if he saw something that he thought was wrong he was suppose to call it in and let the professionals (officers) take care of it. He, GZ was not at the time doing resident watch, he himself was suppose to be running an errand. He pursued TM even though the police told him to stand down and not follow TM. GZ claims that he was attacked by TM, well what was he doing out of his car? He confronted TM and on the audio tapes you can hear TM asking why are you following me then you hear someone yelling for help and what could possibly be a struggle and then a shot. When GZ was originally bought into the police station there were no significant injuries or blood on GZ. For a whole week when they showed the videos of him there were no videos showing Zimmerman with any injuries or blood on him. It wasn't until he got his new attorney that all of a sudden, the police officers supposedly release pictures of Zimmerman's bloody head and signs of a fight on his face. The police officers did not call for an ambulance to have GZ checked out, nor did GZ go to the emergency room to be treated for injuries.

My belief is: GZ was the aggressor not the Victim because he followed Trayvon Martin even after he was told not too. Stand your ground should be for victims like Trayvon trying to protect themselves from idiots looking for a fight or some excitement on a boring day. Aggressors should not be protected by "stand your ground".

He had a gun, not Trayvon Martin.

He got out of his car and confronted Trayvon, Trayvon did not run up to the car and pull out GZ because he was on the phone with his girlfriend telling her that he was afraid because some guy was following him.

I believe that there could have been a struggle, because Trayvon was trying to defend himself from someone that confronted him with a gun. Even if GZ had two black eyes, a broken nose, busted lips, broken ribs, shattered hips and busted knee caps, it would've been no less what he deserved for pursuing TM.

Too bad they didn't take a drug or alcohol test on George Zimmerman that night because they could have found out if GZ was drinking and on Cocaine that night, which would account for his aggressive behavior. They should have also taken a lie detector test on him but they didn't and we now know that he has a little problem with "honesty" because he wasn't honest about his finances. People will say that he didn't know how much money he had and that he isn't a flight risk and that he was ignorant and didn't know that he had to disclose his finances because that money was for his defense, well it is still considered income regardless what it was for and he still had to disclose all his financial gains. If he wasn't trying to be dishonest or if he was ignorant about what he was suppose to disclose to the courts then why, was he and his wife talking in code about the money and what to do with it and how to switch it from one account to another? This defense fund was created by him and his wife, not by his attorney.

Gotta just love Florida. Can't get any f***ing thing right. Elections? Oh, right--hanging chads. Murder trials? Oh, right--check on whether the defendent is actually telling the truth. Duh!!

MOOCHER

No NOT a moocher just have a brain I work hard for every penny I have and yet I give more then 40% away. People and animals are dying yet STUPID people (probably you cmdr358) are giving money to a admitted killer. That money could do real good saving lives of people who have not killed anyone let along injure a fly. It's called HUMANITY.

Amen, Hallelujah! I wish they would give me some of that dough...Lord know's I needed so bad.

He also failed to tell the cops that someone wearing a hoodie to keep the falling rain off their head is also not suspicious.

So he was on a cell phone so his actions are therefore totally innocent?? That's just ridiculous and proves nothing at all. What if he was calling his buddies and giving then the results of his stroll through the neighborhood, you know..the homes that looked like easy pickins' etc.. This speculation is just as possible as yours. Also just sheer speculation as NONE of us were there!!!! The media has always been the source of the hype about the hoodie not GZ. Get a grip and filter between your opinion and what has actually been reported. Then take that with a great big grain of salt.

Yeah, that will straighten Bubba out - a fresh piece of a$$!

@cmdr358,

Read the first line of the article:

"SANFORD, Fla. — George Zimmerman, the man charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin, knew his finances had been misrepresented to the court when he sought to be freed on bond in April, his attorney said Monday."

Furthermore, when Killerman put up his own website, he put no restrictions on the money donated by the zealots. It was to be used for legal expenses, living expenses, cost of relocating, not being aboe to work, etc., etc.

And your point is? :-)

1) Zimmerman knew his wife was lying, and did not report it to the court.

2) He knew his attorney was relying on and representing a lie.

3) The fact the money was in a legal defense fund is irrelevant. It was under his control. And, he somehow omitted the existence of the fund's contents to his attorney.

My question is whether Mr. Zimmerman, Mrs. Zimmerman, or both will be prosecuted for perjury.

Eldridge Woods: "knew his finances had been misrepresented..." and lied are two different things.

If you've already convicted him in your own mind, that's your choice. I'm waiting for testimony and factual evedence to be presented to a jury for them to decide.

BTW.....while all of this was blowing up in the news every night, a young black man shot another young black man after an altercation on a basketball court in Port Saint Lucie Florida. The "shooter" also invoked self-defense and local prosecutors have decided not to charge him in the shooting. Are you or anyone else on here interested in this story of a similar incident involving two blkack men or are you only interested lynching the white fellow?

M'Kevon: I hope and pray that they both are prosecuted for perjury. Zimmerass will soon learn that his trying to pull the wool over the Judges eyes, is not going to get him far, but rather, in much much hot water! :-)

TO: CMDR358: Is he your boyfriend? Or possibly your side whack?? Just curious, maybe you are one of those zealot's that contributed to this clowns circus fund......

Zimmerman started the website while he had his first legal team. O'Mara is not his first attorney. The first team quit because he failed to follow their terms. They were starting a website to put together funds for his defense but he went out ahead of them and started his own. Did this allude you? The first team quit because he would not follow instructions.

Zimmerman was recorded speaking "in code" to his wife instructing her to move the funds to her credit union account. When his attorney was made aware of this he took control of the account from GZ's wife and reported the funds to the court.

George had his wife perjure herself for his own sake. His wife will ultimately be charged at a later date in exchange for his copping a plea to manslaughter, a lessor offense listed in this charge already.

As for the second passport, it is a crime to posses two valid passports, a felony at that. He will also face charges for that seperately at a later date if this is not rolled into the first. They never charge the lessers first so as to avoid a mistrial due to the jurors being predjudiced with the other charges. Try the first case first and then charge the wife with perjury and GZ with the felony for the passport.

This is how it works on law and order anyhow and though I am not a lawyer...... I watch them on TV.

Maybe they were just trying to ensure that there was money for the bond AND a decent attorney. God forbid he get any kind of decent representation.

You have not figured anything out.

Every day some homie punk like TrayVON guns down somebody who has committed NO CRIME - just to steal their bike, steal their car, steal what ever they can, or just because they are little homie punks. Every day. But all you can think about is this shooting, and the facts are not yet clear. As you type, some homie punk is shooting or stabbing a store clerk, or a kid with nice shoes. And all we read about is Zimmerman.

racist

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Like Trayvon's parents didn't hide their GANG BANGER son's NO_LIMIT_NIGGA account on Facebook. Or try to get sympathy from the world when they failed to show accurate pictures of him and showed his baby photos instead. I hope the judge can ream them for that.

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Since when in America is web thugging a crime punishable by death? Do you know how many professionals get all dressed up in badazz biker get up on the weekends and look the part of a real biker for the thrill of it? Do you know how many white kids call themselves nigga and act hard on the web? It would shock you.

I guess you are the kind of person that judges people according to how they dress. I guess you would trust your little boys with a catholic priest since they look like nice people.

The bad boy image has always been one guys tend to want to emulate in order to appeal to girls and it works. This does not make one a criminal. I guess Fonzi (Henry Winkler) was really a bad guy in real life. What about Vanilla Ice, real tough guy. Even Justin Bieber has hardened his image as of late to appeal to an older more hip audience..... so I guess he should be stalked and shot as well.

..for all you bleeding heart racist...zimmerman will be convicted.....

All I did was present the facts about Zimmerman. Even that will not change your bigotry remarks. You would jail anyone on the way they look or something that has happened in the past that has absolutely nothing to do with this case. Fact. A person with a gun that has a shady past, tracked someone down because of the way he looked rather then someone committing ANY CRIME and shot him dead. Someone that was told NOT TO PURSUE, period. I do not care about race. I care about responsibility for your OWN actions. This is no longer the Wild West where you can call out a man the way they look, challenge them and then Kill them dead even when person you murdered has no weapon. We can just let the jury make the decision and not you.

salbella2000.......Zimmerman should be rewarded for taking out that "no limit Nigga"

Little lie - "that dress does not make your ass look big."

Big lie - "Trayvon Martin was an innocent little boy."

Lee Blake - Bigger lie........... Lee Blake cares about the truth.

You missed the whole point of this story. GZ had his wife purposefully lie to the courts and his own lawyer. The first team of lawyers quit almost as fast as they took the job because GZ would not play it straight with them and allow them to do their job. O'Mara is real close to walking on tis case himself. As soon as the rest of the money runs out, he will bolt.

Just say you are glad there is one less black kid in the world and stop hiding behind bs. I myself rarely get heart broken when a white person gets murdered for no good reason, and there are good reasons.

I can respect racism, but not dishonesty.

Obviously you have never had a price on your head and had to live in constant fear for your life.

"I myself rarely get heart broken when a white person gets murdered for no good reason, and there are good reasons."

Really! What comes around goes around. Hope you still have some good Carma left.

"I can respect racism,"

I can see why; you, are a racist!

I am white and took a little offense to the last part of that post, but I understand where you are coming from with the last sentence, "I can respect racism, but not dishonesty." I totally get it.

Carma? CARMA? What are you writing about? Oh, you must mean Karma!

By the way, have you ever had to live in constant fear for your life with a price on your head? No, didn't think so. Bad Karma to write about things as IF you knew what you were talking about.

Kirigami, I lived for a long time knowing if I ran into a certain group with a significant number on their side I would have to fight for my life. Fortunaely they never got enough guys in front of me at one time to risk it. I got jumed once, and that was the emd of that.

Hi, Mark, I'm really sorry you had that experience. It must have made your life very difficult.

Not in way to denigrate what you've been through, but it has been my experience that most of us have had to deal with very heavy burdens. Mine has been being disabled for the last 17 years.

What each person deals with is often very personal. Often we can't see the disability or the burdens, but they are usually there.