Two Missouri girls were playing a deadly game on a railroad track when they were killed by an Amtrak train early Tuesday, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
The teens were playing “Ghost Train,” in which a vehicle is parked on the tracks, according to Butler County Coroner Jim Akers.
During the game, passengers let the windows fog up for a scary setting and then drive off when a train approaches, Akers said, according to the Post-Dispatch.
"They were playing a stupid game called ‘Ghost Train,’ and the object is to get scared, kind of like telling stories on Halloween," Akers said.
Akers said five teens were in a 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee on the tracks as an Amtrak train approached a crossing about 12:30 a.m. Tuesday near Poplar Bluff in southeast Missouri. When the Cherokee wouldn't start, three teens were able to get out, but two panicked and couldn’t unbuckle their seatbelts. The driver returned to help but was in the vehicle when the train hit it, Akers told the Post-Dispatch.
The Missouri State Highway Patrol said Victoria Swanson, 15, and Haley Whitmer, 17, were killed and Kaitlyn Fowler, 15, was hospitalized in critical condition. All were from Poplar Bluff.
Akers told the Post-Dispatch that parents of the victims said the girls had played the game before.
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seriously? the car wouldn't start? damn.
Horrible and Sad ....hopefully this will prevent others.. from Even trying... to all the comments making jokes , try saying that... in person... to their Parents...not so funny then ...huh
dave wouldn't like George Carlin.
Very, very sad....i have always told my kids nothing good comes out of staying out past 11pm. My question is why were 15 and 16 yos out that late.... Its called curfew. Too many parents want to be the kid's friend and let them do, way too much. Don't get me wrong--it is not easy keeping the reins on them- God only knows what my daughter has gotten away with, but i have a lot of constraints and house rules--kids just do stupid things.... we all did and there for the Grace of God, i'm still here.... My sincere condolences to the parents....
What a f/n waste....so so sad.... P.S. so true Dave...
Sigh. I just wish people would think. I wish they hadn't even considered doing something so stupid. I'm not calling them names, but saying that game is just stupid You couldn't have paid me enough to sit on a train track in a car when I was that age or ever. But then you couldn't pay me enough to snort things up my nose or let people pull me behind a car or...well, so many things kids do. I had enough challenges and drama in life without risking that kind of thing. I am sorry for the families' loss and that those kids won't have a chance to grow up:(
I guess the train took out both stupid is and stupid does.
WTF is wrong with teens that play such stupid games like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3HGv7UI0iA
It's a real shame that these two died at such a young age, but there's not much anyone can really do when teens play such idiotic games such as this.
Condolences to the family and friends.
Look on the bright side. They're now with Swayze filming "Ghost II".
Unbelievable. I grew up in a small town with rr tracks. I cannot believe how bored teens are and how desperate to get a thrill. If they're not huffing something toxic, they're playing on railroad tracks. Where the hell are all the parents!! What ever happened to toilet papering a house or shoe polishing a car!
And the parents did not stop the kids from drivinng??? Should have took the car away from them till they grew up a little.
Prince - It must be something in the water they drink (does not compute)
Well, if the object of the game was to "get scared", I'd say they greatly succeeded. Cannot imagine anything more frightening than a train barreling down the tracks and you only have seconds....prayers are with their families.
Look, I can remember being a kid and I can see why kids would play such a "game" at that age. My friends and I did a lot of dumb and dangerous things, too. But if I had ever played "Ghost Train", I would have secretly and quietly unbuckled the seat beat so that I could make a quick exit if necessary. Make of that what you will, but it's true.
I remember watching an old episode of CSI when Gil told this story (I'm paraphrasing here): Our ancestors out on the Savannah would hear a noise to their right; those that looked to the right to see what caused the noise were often eaten, but those that immediately turned left and ran, tended to survive."
I'd just like to congratulate the 2 new Darwin Award winners. Honestly, if you're THIS stupid, I mean, REALLY this stupid, you really shouldn't be part of the gene pool. To the parents, my condolences, but your children failed the genetic lottery... Teens do stupid things all the time, but that's why they're called stupid things. They made the choice, and now they're put in the grave. Stupidity kills, folks.
very sad but the parents stating that they had "played the game before" makes me ask why we're they allowed to drive again that is stupid they are to blame for not taking the keys away the first time
I am really sadden by what I have been reading. I know some of the kids. I know one fighting for her life and one who died. I would not wish this on anyone. It is sad. Kids will be kids. And you the adults should have more respect for the families. You are rude and heartless. I hope this never happens to you. Remember it can happen to you weather your a good parent or not. My prayers go out to all the families.
Kids do stupid stuff because they are invinsible and *it will never happen to me*... famous last words. I remember when I was about 13 we would jump from one terrace to another... on the 14th floor!! Granted it was only a couple of feet at the point we jumped over, but still... the 14th floor! WTF were we thinking??? Looking back now it scares the hell out of me and had my kids ever done anything that stupid I would have locked them up until they were 25!!
My thoughts and prayers are with the girls who survived... I can't even imagine the shock and pain they are feeling... and also to the families and loved one of the girls who didn't make it. No matter what the circumstance, I can't imagine anything more painful than to lose a child.
ThaMonkeh... totally uncalled for.
To start with, they were not only putting themselves at risk but others on the train. Such is what we call "terrorism act". Rail road is a public entity and no messing about where public would be at risk
They may be from Poplar Bluff, but their action is hardly popular bluff.
My Condolences’ to the family.
Looking back at all the stupid things I did as a teenager & even in my early 20s, I can't believe I'm still alive today. As we get older, I guess we gain some insight in our lives that makes us accountable for our own actions. At a younger age, you just don't think about the consequences. You never think it will happen to you. I guess growing up, you start seeing enough in life to realize it can all change in a second.
A perfect example of why inbreeding is illegal.
amen to that joe, i cannot believe i'm alive either.....did some stupid crap....but stayed off the tracks. sad as it is. i feel bad for the families. yeah it was a dumb thing to do and kids do dumb things so for those who like making jokes and saying heartless things, you need to think about what you are saying...they are just freaking kids.
Sounds like a bad scene from a movie come to life. You wouldn't think even teens would take a chance like that. Anything can happen and go wrong which this proves. What a waste.
Flabbyoldbird,if those had been my kids and I knew that they did such stupid thing one time they would not have an automobile to drive until they reached adult hood and bought it themselves,I find it hard to believe that the parents would even admit that they knew they had done such stunt before,they might be charged with child endangerment.
I'm sure they thought the driver would get them out in time....well they are called children ...better teach them well. If you have your own....maybe think about how you are spending time with them........
Just stupid, Period. People say "kids will be kids", true. Also true is "kids should not drive cars". Want to "be a kid", be a kid. Want to be treated like a young adult, then act like an adult and then drive like an adult. Oooops, that is the problem, adults don't act or drive like adults anymore.............
Really, if the parents knew these dolts did this before, keys and cars should be the last thing these CHILDREN should be having in their hands.
if any students are reading these comments, please don't be STUPID like this. i'm sorry for the families involved, but this was just plain stupid.
I offer my condolences to the families of those young women. A very hard way to learn how foolish some games are and when Tough Love needs to be administered.
Actually, @flabbyoldbird while kids will be kids, parents should also be PARENTS. The parents knew that the kids had done it before. If my parents had found out that I'd pulled a stunt that stupid in high school, I would have had my car keys and a good slice of my hide taken away until I'd grown the hell up.
Columbine was a tragedy. Virginia Tech was a tragedy. This was just a bunch of stupid kids looking for trouble and finding it. I feel sorry for the people on the train: the conductor who has to live with the guilt of killing two children and the passengers who were inconvenienced because five dumbasses thought that they were invincible and were proven wrong. That's who I feel sorry for. Not the girls and certainly not the parents who raised them to have so little sense.
flabbyoldbird
While it is SAD that this happened the question is did YOU learn from their mistake? Or are you going to play on the tracks yourself? Don't give us this kids will be kids. This is not some childish game this was a death wish.
Rude and heartless was these kids putting their parents and friends through this horrible tragedy. Heartless is putting the train Engineers on previous incidents through this but this one now must live with their deaths for the rest of their lives through no fault of their own.
Darwin now has two new awards and an honorable mention that may graduate to a FOOL award.
To be further rude... to you specifically... Go back to school.. perhaps summer school and learn that the weather was fine that night whether you know it or not.
@The Imperial
I agree with you in general but just to clarify a little.
Railroads are PRIVATE. It is trespass to enter onto a railroad right of way. The railroads are a public conveyance, like an airline, so yes it could be considered an act of terrorism.
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That the parents KNEW this had happened before they should be held responsible. Cruel as it may be the survivors all need cited to set an example for others. Sentence should be community service giving appearances showing just how tragic this turned out.
trsut_verify You seeem like a particularly grim joyless,judgmental sort.
Part of being a kid is making bad decisions. Another part is thinking you're indestructible. Unfortunately, sometimes when you put the two together, this is what you get and that's what makes this a sad story. Five kids, and not a single one of them was smart enough or had enough influence to say, "Hey guys, maybe this isn't such a good idea."
Ronald Hussein Reagan
I almost take that as a compliment. I'm a realist. You can either say God judged them or life did. They were judged and found not worthy to continue life or procreate. The blame falls on the parents or those who died. The old joke when life hands you lemons make lemonade applies. Making something good come out of this would best be served by educating others so there are no ATTEMPTS to repeat.
Who do YOU find at fault for the tragic event? The Bugs Bunny cartoon comes to mind. They were following TRAIN "tracks". What did they expect to catch?
Tag you're it, you get to be the ghosts for the next game.
Cant wait to see the parents of these dumb@!$%#s suing the Railroad
I dont thing God judged them but sometimes in life you dont get second chances. IF parents knew how much guilt they must have now.
Very sad tragic event..yes they were stupid..sometimes mistakes are reversible. Heart goes out to all the families and train conductor who witnessed such a horrific thing.
Which one survived(if the driver what a thing to live w and they are the ones prob get a lawsuit)
While not knowing any about these families, I'd like to entertain the thought that some of the parents knew of them doing this before, had grounded them, the teens swore up and down and promised it wouldn't happen again, only to lie and do it again. The parents may have been good parents, but the invincibility of youth combined with peer pressure, etc.. may have prompted these teens to do it again. They may have lied about staying at friends homes, but for me, if my teen daughters stay somewhere I call, no texting, so I can hear what's going on and verify they're in at certain hours, and certainly before 11:00 p.m. .
Kids will push the limits and I did my share; looking back, even though I swore at the time it wasn't, it was indeed peer pressure and things that I shudder to think of now. My parents weren't strict, but firm.... and I still managed to do my share of ill thought out actions. My father had said it best... 'When i was drafted into the Korean war at 18, we all sat in a room, 50 of us. They said 30 probably wouldn't make it home. Each one of us looked around the room, at they guy next to you, and said to ourselves 'you poor bastards!'
There is a feeling of 'yeah, I know it can happen, but not to me' in youth for most all of us. With tiime and age there is more of a value and changing of values in life and I believe is why I became like my parents when at the time of youth had said I never would, would let MY kids do this or that....
@Dave up top - I don't see why the parents would have a problem with any of the "Jokes" / ruder than rude, inconsiderate, unfeeling comments that have been posted. It states clearly that the parents of the kids had known they were playing this "Game" - obviously they didn't feel it was anything to take seriously because if they had then the parents, as a group, would have made the decision to ban each one of those childen from driving for the remainder of their High School education.
The fact that the parents were aware of this and the children suffered no substantial punishment for not understanding that this type of idiocy is not a game they gave those children the outright impression that there was nothing wrong with their actions. This is a sad commentary on the state of our nation - Until Parents decide to be Parents and actually "Parent" their children and until both the parents that allow these things to happen and the children that do these things start experiencing and understanding that there are consequences to their actions without children having to die to "Prove" it more children will continue to die in violent, needless ways. Notice that I call them "Children" NOT "Young Adults" because Children is what they are/were. When a 35/40 year old Parent can't act in an adult manner than we surely can not expect 14, 15 & 16 year olds to act as adults. The laws in this Country say that you are not allowed to ABUSE your child they do not say that you can not punish your child. The laws give your child access to begin the process of getting a drivers license at, I believe, age 15 that doesn't mean, YOU, as the Parent, have to give your child the permission to start that process. The law says your child must go to school it does not say that you have to let your children out to roam the streets once the school day has ended and while I am only 42 yearsold I can say that when I was growing up the parents I knew realized that the Goverment's Laws did not have to be the Law's in their home and they also made it clear that what we wanted meant NOTHING what they ALLOWED us to do was all that mattered and we should be grateful for whatever those things were because if we didn't like it then we could surely like the four walls of our TV-less bedrooms. So Help me G**, Can ANYONE please tell me why these parents knew that these kids were doing this and yet, they still allowed those children out in their cars to do it again. Everyone that reads this can dislike what I have said and views and that's fine - that is why we all have our right to our own opinions However, there is no way you can disagree with the fact that these parents were negligent - I'm Sorry but there is no logic to what has happened here. One child's life is hanging by a thread, 2 Children have lost their lives and two other children will relive this for the rest of their lives and if the parents of those two children don't step up to the plate and do all they can for those two kids I shudder to think of the path those childen may take to relieve their grief. How do parents know that this is happening and not lock their children in the house, go to the police, bring it to the school's attention for extra support in stopping this, go to the train officials so they have extra people watching the lines or do anything & everything they can to protect their children. Why have we decided that our children are not worth our effort??? Just, Please, everyone, in the midst of all the postings to vent our feeling and all the prayers that we will be praying for those children can we please also take every chance we can to begin to encourage Parents to get back to being Parents - we are failing the children of our country miserably.
I hope Amtrak sues the familes for the damaged caused to the train and the pain and suffering to the conductors. Kids need to think before they do STUPID things like that. It is sad that it happened but hopefully everyone else will learn that like in casino's "the house always wins". If you tempt fait enough eventually you will lose.
Well, again... there's nothing saying these parents didn't ground their kids, make them swear they wouldn't go out with the driver that did this before, swear they'd never, ever do it again, etc... . On one hand, we parents have to protect and guide but on the other we can't put them in a bubble. Most kids/teens have 'antics' that are more or less unique to their area; as the police said they not only know of this happening before but have a name for it so again... peer pressure. Had this have happened before in the area where the 'game' went south would they have still done it? I don't know, but I do know of teens in my area that are rumored to do some fairly dangerous things but don't see it as such at that age.
I knew of kids I went to high school with that would take their 3 wheelers, dirt bikes out at night to construction sites because it was against what adults said and because it was against what authority said... not all were bad kids whatsoever, but the leader of the group, different story. It didn't stop until one kid decapatated himself hitting wire on the property. He was the one who bragged about what he was allowed to do, other kids looked up to him for it.... we've all known one or two of those kids whose parents didn't care but saw it as being cool back then. Others would sneak out, lie, whatever to hang out with them for status, popularity and the voice of reason back then would be the kid that would be chastised, ridiculed, called a wimp amongst other things. Then there'd be having to deal with it all the next day at school.
Simply put, it's tragic but to look at the why's and how's through adult eyes or judge the parents of the teens that got busted before without knowing more isn't right. I remember getting into some very uncomfortable situations and thinking 'once this is over, never again' and certainly sometimes got lucky. And, it was never again. In the end, I don't know that teen pressures amongst their group and hierarchy will ever change and there will always be unfortunates in the news.....
I think if you aren't a parent, or you haven't watched a kid do something clearly dumb that could haven gotten themselves killed, there isn't a whole lot of perspective to understanding the tragedy that this is. For some reason, people can't use their own experience of being an a*sh*le tean to understand others.
Having said that, yeah, sympathy and calling it a tragedy does not absolve the kids of blame for what they did. And really, unless you want a lot of laws that prevent people from driving until they are 25, if ever, there's got to be a better way to make youth understand there is a huge difference in something risky and exciting and something that could get you killed.
Obviously, no one here has an answer, because if you actually did, you'd be on a national committe and have solved the problem. No, it isn't because 'the man' has got you down that nobody realized your brilliance yet, either. But hopefully people start thinking about this more, now that some people paid for the lesson with their lives.
And when asked what were they thinking (those that survived) don't be surprised when you get blank stares and the "I dunno" response because clearly these kids weren't.
This never should've happen and is down right stupid and a complete waste of a 2, could end up being 3, young lives. I would be interested to know though if these kids were ones that were on the right path in life or if they were ones that were starting to show they didn't care and were likely not to amount to anything; which could be representative of this action and taking such a stupid risk or they could've been good kids with promise that just did something extremely stupid. Though it doesn't change the fact that this was still a waste of life.
Whatever the case I do give my condolences to their families and loved ones but cannot forgive these kids for the needless suffering and hurt they will ultimately cause so many; not only the family and friends but what about the train engineer? Also, what is this about them doing this before? Admittedly I want to say shame on mom and dad but we don't know the full details so this could be eitherway, maybe they did punish them for what they thought was enough, or maybe they didn't thus seeing what happened. I will reserve that judgement til other details emerge (if and when) but I will say in at least one way they had some failing here since they were the parents, but these kids where old enough to know better so that only goes so far.
As to the Darwin Award comment, I totally agree. This is a prime case and that is the point behind them. Tragic or not, it may sound cold, but the was totally avoidable and only happened because of these teens showing extreme stupidity, not to mention that is no more cold than the hurt they will have cause others like I mention above. And any kids will be kids remarks are ignorant as best as there is no excuse for this. They are allowed to drive therefore they know better. Many of us did do stupid stuff when we were younger and sometimes we were very lucky but that doesn't change the fact that it was still stupid and shouldn't of been done.
I will ask though what is it will cars stalling on tracks? And they must of been out in the country somewhere because I would think any crossing in town someone surely would've seen them as I imagine they waited for some period of time before the train came unless it was just a really busy set of tracks.
And this is nitpicking but try a little harder on the title to this article. There weren't just two teens "playing" there where five. I think the author could've been a little more informative here.
In the end we have to do our best and teach our kids. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't but knowing you gave it a real try is better than not trying at all. I hope at the very least this will be a lesson others will learn from this so we don't have to read about anything about kids/teens/adults being killed for a reason this stupid again.
It is time
Incidences such as this is why some states are implementing laws prohibiting drivers under 18 from having other kids in the car with them. Get a group of kids together away from adult supervision, and stupid things are going to occur. That's what kids do. I would have taken away their driving privileges for a year the first time they did that stupid stunt.
I feel for those parents, but this is, at least partially, their fault. The kids were out too late, and had shown very poor judgement already. Restrictions on their "freedoms" would have likely saved their lives. Although they wouldn't have believed you if you told them that it was for their own good. Kids are basically stupid. That's why we have to parent them.
A few years ago, there was a fad that kids were doing where as they drove down a road at night, they would turn off their headlights and blast through stop signs for a thrill. Kids are just stupid. I don't remember being that stupid, but I did have my share of dumb.
"If you're not liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you're not conservative when you're older, you have no brain." Winston Churchill
Think this sums it up well. I was lucky to make it out of my teens and twenties relatively unscathed.
My condolences to the family and friends of the children injured and lost.
The car didn't "stall". It just wouldn't start. If I had to guess, I bet they had the stereo on and the engine off while waiting for the train to come. Maybe the wait for the train was long enough to drain the battery. You see the train, you try to start the car.... lo and behold, not enough cranking power.
Stall or start still stuck on tracks. Your scenario is very plausible though. Just a side-note was all really. One of those things that seems kinda of strange. I was driving along and car stalled and ended up on tracks. Or in this case (excluding your reason above) stop on tracks then car wouldn't start. Again just an off the wall observation but as you pointed out probably not so common and usually has valid reason why.
Parents didn't do enough to train the children..
When you have idiot parents, you also have idiot kids. Too bad America has so many idiots making children!
It's watering down our society.
How ironic, they were wearing seat belts to protect themselves in a crash, they parked their car on train tracks, and then they couldn't get out of the belts fast enough.
Speaking as a former volunteer firefighter, you can't imagine the trauma the first responders suffered when confronted with this, much less the train engineer.
I think the parents ought to be charged with neglect. No doubt the parents of the driver are going to get sued for a very large amount of money
"Train" the children??"
Lol, I'd say those kids have be 'trained' to the bejesus!
Amtrak/Hogwarts/Lionel Thomas...Name it!!
These children done be 'trained"!!!!
Come to think of it, lets ask Toro, as I think they were mowed, myself.
at least the driver had the character to try and save her friends.
one second i want to shake her and say, ''how stupid can you get'' and the next i want to give her a big huge hug and congratulate her on being very, very brave----- and very compassionate!
I know teenagers are dumb, but come on.
This is a Darwin Awards type of incident, maybe the next episode on "1000 ways to die" (stupidly)
The thrill wasn't worth the price, never mess with the moving mass of a train, you cannot and will not ever win. I've worked in the railroad, the weight of a train is unforgiving.
Name of this article needs to be changed.
Darwin Award Winners in Missouri.
I cannot believe how seriously callous so many of your comments are ! The only one who could say anything about this is the one of you who did nothing dumb when they were young...waiting...still waiting....Parents lost their children, brothers and sisters lost their siblings...show some compassion...damn...should have been you in that jeep...would rather the world be rid of cold hearted bas**rds, then young foolish kids !
Stupid kids, they put all of the people on the train in danger.
Can you have a little compassion???
Ghost Train - 0, Real Train - 2
missy why should we care. This was two stupid girls who decided to play a dangerous game and lost. They knew better but did not care. Why have compassion when they can't even think for themselves.
It is so sad that teens did something stupid and lost their life.Look at the 4 teen on their graduation day .My deepest sympathies go all out to the parents and families of the teens .I used to work for a coroner.I know it is hard to walk up to the vehicle knowing there is a teen in it.I could feel the parents hurt and pain. It was hard to tell a parent that their child was killed. i used to go to classes and talk to students about being care full driving.Not to show off your driving. i got called out to a fatal accident. I pulled up and seen a car that belonged to one of the students i had talked to face to face .i had a few tears as i seen the vehicle head on with another. She was one that had told me she was a very safe driver. said she drove with common sense. And now she is gone.PLEASE WAKE UP TEENS AND DON'T THINK YOUR INDESTRUCTIBLE!!!! PLEASE DRIVE WITH CAUTION.BE SAFE!!
Lets the face the real facts, I doubt this was a game all 5 wanted to play. I bet a lead (popular or controlling) girl dared the rest to play... This is always the case. This is where parents need to teach teenagers its OK to think for themselves and not follow their friends, that's what builds character. This may have even been a form of bullying.
Dear, dear Val....ask that same question when you grow up (mentally) and have your own kids that do stupid things. Why should anyone care if they die?
I have heard some elfin cold hearted people in my life, but today's generations take the cake.
That in itself IS the problem. Nobody cares about anything or anybody but themselves.
Poor kids. Young and innocent and with misconceived notions of immortality.
Poor parents. Something they will NEVER get over!
My thoughts exactly! Whoever said stupidity is a capitol offense was right. Thank God they hadn't had any children.
that would be a 'capital' offense
@FWC. I completely agree.
These two teens didn't die because of a tragic accident that they had no control over. They died because they were stupid and they willingly put themselves directly in the path of danger. I would have pity for them, their family and friends if they were killed by a drunk driver, a flash flood or an out-of-control truck that hit them but they choose to park on train tracks, fog up the windows and then try to evade a speeding train at the last minute and they did it for cheap thrills. These teens are Darwin award nominees and the gene pool is better for their absence.
Would the people who are indignant because people are saying that these teens are Darwin award nominess feel the same way if they were killed because they were playing Russian Roulette or because they were driving drunk? The teens in Missouri died because of their own decisions and I am not about to feel sorry for them. Their family should have taught them better and their own friends should have told them how dangerous their actions were, so don't expect sympathy because your kids are hood ornaments on an Amtrak locomotive.
I knew 4 friends who were killed because they either tried to race a train across the tracks or they didn't hear the horn because their stereo was so loud, and I learned not to play chicken with a thousand plus ton machine.
ConwayTwitter
Apparently your statement is doubly WRONG.
These kids did NOT care about themselves. The Driver appears to have cared enough about others to risk their own life to attempt to save the two who could not free themselves.
This is PROOF that stupid can be fixed... permanently.
Conway, I am grown up and here is the difference I listened and still do to my parents. I am 42 not 18. I knew not to play near railroads. I knew you could get killed. I knew what could happen. They thought it was funny and a game. They learned too late what happens. You think this is the first time they did this? Of course not. It doesn't matter if this was the first but I hope it is the last. I don't feel sorry for the families of these dummies because they knew right from wrong. They didn't listen, their friends didn't try to help, hencefore why should I give a damn about these darwin winner. They chose to play these games, let them deal with the consequences. I am a person who learned limits something these idiots don't know what to do. You wanna blame folks, blame the victims first for knowing better but not doing the right thing. Let's blame the parents for not teaching their kids to not follow the crowd or think on their own. So what if folks are mean, how many times do we have to hear this over and over about htese stupid kids who continue to kill themselves over stupid and dangerous railroad games?
For those of you QQing to have some compassion and talking about the immortal mentality youngsters have that makes them feel they can do stupid @!$%#.
When I was a kid, I didn't do a single thing that would put me in mortal danger, that includes underage drinking and smoking.
All the jocks and cool kids I went to school with did all that stupid @!$%#. Today they are nobodies. Today I party every day.
These kids will be forgotten about by everyone but their family within a year for being idiots. The only times they will be remembered at all outside of the family is when two classmates get together and their like, "Who were those girls that got killed by the train playing that stupid game"
The price of stupidity is life, they paid in full.
The only thing I wish could have been different is the driver survived. But only so she could be brough up on charges of reckless manslaughter.
If you're gonna be stupid you gotta be tough.
Skimming the algae off the gene pool.
I cannot believe how seriously callous so many of your comments are ! The only one who could say anything about this is the one of you who did nothing dumb when they were young...waiting...still waiting....Parents lost their children, brothers and sisters lost their siblings...show some compassion...damn...should have been you in that jeep...would rather the world be rid of cold hearted bas**rds, then young foolish kids !
Robert, you are a pathetic excuse of a living organism, SOB
Are you smarter than a seat belt?
Don't feed the trolls people. They always tend to be some stupid fat ass 13 year old just trying to get a rise out of people who care. They don't even both to come back to read the responses. So just don't pay them any mind for their retarded comments.
Dan, you are so right. You can tell the immature comments from the adult comments.
Jeez, whatever happened to cow tipping for some good clean fun. What a sad story.
Cow tipping! Ha ha! People really do that here in Wisconsin. There are also more mellow games for young'uns to play that don't include trains or cows or death. You'll need: blankets, starry night, flat field, silence. My friends and I would become huge "refrigerator magnets" by lying in a field on a clear night and letting the vastness of space sink in until we felt like we were just stuck on the surface of the earth, looking out instead of up. The illusion is amazing, but one girl always ended up puking for some reason, and another girl was always saying, "What are we looking at?" You need a really flat field very far away from street lights or noise, and make sure the farmers aren't harvesting or planting anything that night with their huge machinery. It sounds boring until you try it.
Missy::: I guess I'm just too old, but I didn't do any asinine things when I was a teenager. I had too much respect for my parents-- AND MYSELF. Then my senior year in high school I had chores. Brats these days don't know how to work.
It's a shame these brats couldn't find anything better to do than to risk their lives. My condolences to the parents. My thoughts to the brats-- you got what you wanted.
What good deed have YOU done lately? Rather the world be rid of jassacks such as you.
It's hard to feel sympathy for foolish people who flirt with death so willingly. I’m a little shocked that it was a group of young girls. I feel bad for the pain this incident left on the families, but the victims are just plain stupid. Age and adolescence are no excuse for this bad judgment call. Hopefully other youth will learn from this…
Berecca, I used to do that too! Only I would feel myself on the BOTTOM of the earth, looking down, and I'd grab onto the grass to keep from falling off! What an amazing feeling - realizing nothing separated you from the distant stars but empty space. As for being idiotic enough to tempt fate in the form of a speeding train - that I can't even imagine. I used to count open boxcars and fantasize about hopping one, but that was about it.
Lol oh what fun we had when we were young.
Oh, we hopped on trains, too. There was one that would slowly thunk through town twice a day, and then it would speed up to a whopping 20 mph on it's way to the next village. It slowed to a crawl when it came through, so we could just walk up to it and get on where there was an empty spot. The biggest dangers we faced were sunburn and forgetting to hop back on to get home in the evening, or not finding an empty car. Our feet dangled about a foot above the gravel, so the jump was nothing to get excited about, and if a backpack fell off, we could just hop off the train to get it and hop back on. It was really slow most of the time.
We followed basic rules: keep away from the sharp end of the snake, power outlets let out power, don't stand behind a cow, don't close your eyes and run, don't lick most things, and trains can't swerve.
Young people that age don't have a fully developed cerebral cortex. They aren't wise enough to make smart decisions about their mortality. They don't yet understand that they can die in accidents so they take stupid risks. They're going to live forever. It has nothing to do with how they've been parented. Some teenagers make these mistakes and they pay the ultimate price for them. It's a shame but it's because of their brain being undeveloped for wisdom.
All this shaming and blaming of parents is futile. Each of them is already blaming himself for their failure to prevent their child's death. There's no need for a dogpile of strangers on their back.
Hooray for evolution working!
That my friends is why you should never buy a Chrysler. Pure junk.
LMAO! Three more years and that Jeep could have got a "classic" tag.
What do you expect for a 17+ year old Chrysler product? SERIOUSLY!
Plus the Parents KNEW their daughter did this before so they helped contribute to it by not nipping it in the Butt the FIRST TIME!
Double Darwin awards!
I can't even imagine the terror and horror those teens went through. Too bad when you are young, you have no idea how quickly things can go wrong. May they RIP.
I agree! I dont remember trying anything life threatning on purpose. I would skip a class.(Man I was boring) I wont say they deserved it because dont believe that but imagining (now as a parent) never getting over not doing something more to prevent since they knew about it. My butt would have been sore and lost driving priviledges till I graduated if lucky.
I was to much of a thinker in hs...I wouldnt want my family to go through such a tragic thing if I did this.
Too bad they had stupid hick parents.
Where are you from...New York?
@commentingbecauseIcan: Incorrect. It's more like 'too bad their cerebral cortexes weren't fully developed yet.' Take a biology class or read a textbook. Google is your friend. Ignorance is no excuse...or are you perhaps a teenager, too? Time will cure you. Perhaps.
We did some stupid things when we were growing up but nothing that idiotic...
Jim Johnson-767323.
You're absolutely right! I rode my (low powered) BSA too fast on country roads at night after a few pints of beer but didn't intentionally try to kill myself. If this is the best that they can find to do then some of the other comments regarding the gene pool are insensitive but valid! The parents will suffer the pain of having to bury their daughters and I wish them peace.
Raymond, driving around while drinking is worse you stupid sorry ass piece of @!$%#, you not only endangered your life, which is worthless anyways, anyone with you, and anyother innocent person on the road you dumbass, get a clue damn how can someone understand how to use a computer be so illiterate?
Don't be a douche-bag Mike-923263. There was actually a time all that not long ago, when you could hit a tree in somebodies yard, then the police would come and give you a ride home, with just a ticket for destruction of property. Early 80's is when government first started monetizing DUI's through the courts. Before then, as long as you didn't kill anyone it was all good.
My parents told me to stay away from train tracks.
Mike923263 I agree driving a motorcycle while drinking is stupid.....BUT do you think that those girls put a WHOLE train of ppl in danger? they could have easily de railed from this stupid "game" that they lost. Im sure that raymond prob would have a different out look if he would have recieved a little road rash. Now onto the issue where the parents KNEW that they had played this game before. Why or why would they even allow them to be out together, first time i heard it would be the last time they were in a car with other young ppl. My heart goes out to the families. I am sure the remaining girls are in need of alot of counceling, hopefully they get it so their parents wont be losing them too.
Alot of these insensitive and idiotic comments make me realize how pathetic America has become. Not only are so many people without conscience, they are cowards who hide behind a computor spouting their venom and hatred. But one day they will die, and then be judged by the God they can't hide from. My sincerest condolences to the families of these girls. I know what it is like to lose a child to foolishness.
Do you think these kids "intented" to kill themselves when this happened. My bet is on the answer "no".
And I'm fairly sure they had no idea they would get hit, much less put anyone else in danger. Good grief. We're talking about children here.
Kids are bombarded at a very early age with super fast video games,everything on tv now is fast,fast and faster! It teaches impatience, soooooo, kids get bored more easily nowadays and want a thrill a minute.
Mike-923263
You mean like these kids endangered ALL the people on the Amtrak train? What was their excuse ... far as we know they were stone cold sober... now two of them are cold stone DEAD.
ConwayTwitter
What do you think the PURPOSE of the game was? I'm certain they could find a better parking spot to talk about icky boys. They deliberately pulled on the tracks to experience the thrill/danger of facing an oncoming train. They had some idea of the danger not only to themselves but to each other.
Jeepgal, can't blame videogames. Folks have been playing that game on the train for decades. Blame a lack of hometraining.
People this kind of behavior is normal and to be expected. However dumb and selfish it might be. People do really dangerous stuff and don't have a clue between risk and reward. Thats why stuff like this happens and will continue to happen. The 2 dumbest things that will come from this, is thinking putting the survivors in front of some other group of peers will deter someone from doing this. It won't do a damn bit of good. The kids that want the risk are going to take it, and will live or die with the consequences. Better yet, we will try and legislate this behavior away! We have so many damn laws on the books to try and prevent us from harm! And it does no good. Murder continues, drug use soars and we think legislating death penalties and 3 strikes and your out is a deterrent! NOPE we were designed with free will and we are to use it, sometimes to our benefit and others to our tragic defeat. The goal is what do YOU do afterwards to change it
Mike-923263, quit it with the personal attacks.
You are suspended for a day for violating rule # 1 of the Code of Honor.
WTF? Goast train? Poor young girls. This has to be the saddest & most stupid thing I've ever heard of. How did this girl get a license
People, Teach your kids rail road tracks are never safe to play around! Stupidity will always lead to this kind of thing happening.
How can someone not believe in evolution ? Darwinism strikes again.
your comment is so stupid it ranks right up there with darwins stupid thoughts. Oh and by the way I don't believe in evolution, I believe in the BIBLE.
Wow, you told him. BAZINGA
Hey jennings, why didn't their guardian angels intervene?
Jennings,since you believe in the bible I take it that you believe that a slave shall obey his or her slave master,the bible says so ,do you believe that if a groom finds out on the honeymoon that his bride is not a virgin it is ok for him to stone her death,the bible says so,and I take it that you think that it is ok to sell your daughter into slavery,the bible says so,I am just asking.
jennings-3191762
Then we presume God called them home. There is no reason to grieve them. Yours must be a cruel god.
Which "BIBLE" do you believe in? There are several. The BIBLE didn't do any of them a hill of beans.
And yes I believe in God. The Christian one. That God did provide brains to think for oneself. The OLD joke about brains and trains comes to mind but I will be respectful and not repeat it.
Oh, come on. Really? The bible? God? These girls died because they wanted to have some fun. I feel for their families. Don't blame a god, or some other mythical creature. Kids will be kids, and they need to be watched and controlled by adults. The parents didn't do their job well enough, and their kids paid for it. Now the parents have to live with it.
People take risk everyday around the world and die from their choices. These kids made a choice, a regrettable one.
The bible seriously? It's a nice book with some interesting parables but it certainly cannot explain our existence and the creation of this planet. No one not even those people that wrote stories that were added and even the ones that were excluded didn't have that kind of comprehension. I grew up baptist and I know better than that. Science is the proof and the time line and chronology of the bible don't match. It's evolution but it's ok if you can't comprehend that. Stay off the tracks unless you are on a train. You should be ok then.
1995 vehicle...won't start....kinda unbelievable if you ask me. They should use a Ford Pinto hatchback, they explode when hit.
Why is it hard to believe that a 17 year old vehicle might not start? Probably ready for the scrapyard years ago.
i think the more important question is if you were intentionally sitting on train tracks waiting for a train so you could escape at the last moment then why the hell wasn't the engine running the whole time? i mean people do potentially lethal things for an adrenaline rush all the time, some of them are even considered sports but you wouldn't jump out of a plane with only one parachute strap or bungie jump without tying off the other end. i wouldn't say these kids deserved to die because unless you've intentionally killed someone or sexually violated a child i don't believe anyone deserves to die. However, it bares saying that what happened here was a very easily foreseeable result of their actions and fifteen is certainly old enough to know that so while it is tragic to die at the beginning of life the responsibility is their own. On a side note if this is a common and known activity in the area then law enforcement should be taking some kind of action to prevent it at this point. how many railroad crossings could there be in the area. set up cameras and issue steep fines for stopping on the tracks, say 10000 dollars. i think you'd see an end to this kind of thing real quick.
Awesome, a few more idots from the face of the earth!!
Sad, but at least 3 of them learned an important lesson.
darwin and newton share a hearty laugh....
Survival of the fittest comes to mind.
@Tylor, Why is Mr Murphy always ignored?
I have more sympathy for the train crew that have to wonder if they could have done anything more to protect these idiots from their own actions than I do for the teens and their friends & family.
Well on a positive note... They will not be breeding and adding to the gene pool!
I cannot believe how seriously callous so many of your comments are ! The only one who could say anything about this is the one of you who did nothing dumb when they were young...waiting...still waiting....Parents lost their children, brothers and sisters lost their siblings...show some compassion...damn...should have been you in that jeep...would rather the world be rid of cold hearted bas**rds, then young foolish kids !
Please Missy, I wonder how you feel about a racist adult blowing a black kid away for walking through his neighborhood with some skittles and a canned tea??
This is a tragedy...some white kids being stupid on train tracks, but that black kid deserved what he got right??
If I was in the jeep, it would never have stopped on train tracks in the first @!$%#ing place.
Angry Left seems to be putting words in peoples mouths and sounds a bit racist.
Missy... Lighten up. There are plenty of more dumb a$$es in the world to do self centered things for a thrill and get killed for it. I am tired of stupid, incompetent people that only think of themselves, that live in the moment without thinking 30 seconds in the future.
You want me to have compassion for someone that had none for themselves or their friends...forget it.
Look at this country... stupid people are destroying it!
Angryleft: What the heck? Who brought up the thuglet in FL?
I think there are plenty of us who can say plenty about this.
Children are not responsible for their own behavior. Parents are responsible for what children do.
The people at fault, here, are those that allowed their child to operate a motor vehicle.
Second place goes to those who raised 15 year -olds who hadn't the sense to know when something is going terribly wrong and extricate themselves from the situation.
I was a very dangerous and "at-risk" youth. I remember, distinctly, friends who abandoned parties, adventures and sleep-overs when risky behavior began; never to return or speak with us again. So it is possible to raise children who recognize and avoid risky dangerous behavior.
The abandonment by sensible friends, at times of fun and excitement, always made me wonder, "Why?". Now we know why. What we need to find out is, "How do we raise those types of children?"
Damn! How about FAA Chair, Babbitt?
It's easy to see why this guy was chosen as head of arguably the most imporatant agency in the U.S. Gee, I wonder why motorized transportation has become so dangerous.
You ask how we raise such children? No God, no morals, no reason. Think they are an evolutionary accident just here to have a good time until the end, and they don't want to think about that because it is so empty. Welcome to liberal forward-thinking America.
What, Fugate? It was a train, not an airplane. Where are you going with that?
Missy has posted the SAME paragraph three times already!
Missy I won't lie. I've done some stupid @!$%# in my life. Never anything that would have killed me though...Actually scratch that. Getting balls out high and driving the crotch rocket counts as lethal doesn't it?
Missy here is the difference a majority of us on here wouldn't be that damn stupid, we have home training and something else common sense. If it sounds stupid, it probable is. Deal with it.
Tired, no it has nothing to do with lack of God and religions. Morals should be taught at home. So are you telling me every person who has died playing these games came from non-religious families (over decades)? This is not the first time it has happened and won't be the last.
scarey to think that in a very few short years these girls could have been mothers.....well maybe they would have been smarter and used better judgement by then.....but they already should have been old enough to know better
Natural selection in action
I guess they might have been high on paint fumes or oxicodone!!
Because who in their right mined would play a game (which really isnt a real game) that has a 85% fatality rate?
Technically, it has a 40% fatality rate.
Playing with a train you are going to lose even if it is a tie.
Where do you get your statistics from? It's a joke, right??
So sad, a true tragedy. At the very least, they will not be procreating, and bring more stupidity into this world.
when your mother and father are related this kind of thing happens.
I cannot believe how seriously callous so many of your comments are ! The only one who could say anything about this is the one of you who did nothing dumb when they were young...waiting...still waiting....Parents lost their children, brothers and sisters lost their siblings...show some compassion...damn...should have been you in that jeep...would rather the world be rid of cold hearted bas**rds, then young foolish kids !
missylovesrobby,
You have successfully shown that you can have one thought four times. Give it a rest.
Missyloves: Please stop repeating yourself.
Exactly!
Some of the comments on here are as stupid as what these kids did...remember we were all that young once and did some not so bright things and just got lucky it turned out better than this.
How about some compassion for these kids families and the ones that survived...God only knows how they must feel about now.
People die. That's life. Compassion is a waste of neural activity.
twistedcross (and you are twisted and not in a good way): will you still feel the same if someone you loves dies, or someone that loves you (joke)?
I cannot believe how seriously callous so many of your comments are ! The only one who could say anything about this is the one of you who did nothing dumb when they were young...waiting...still waiting....Parents lost their children, brothers and sisters lost their siblings...show some compassion...damn...should have been you in that jeep...would rather the world be rid of cold hearted bas**rds, then young foolish kids !
We got it the first 5 times you said it.
Let me guess you have played this "game" if you want to call it that and survived or at least some of your brain did
Missyblowsrobbie:
The deaths were self-inflicted--remember? And the kids endangered others just so they could enjoy the thrill of being so near being killed as to be so absolutely terrified that they couldn't think straight. It wouldn't work if the car was left running or if the driver drove off 5 seconds before the train were to hit.
This game is played enough that it has a name and is widely known?
The kids were dutifully wearing safety belts?!
Missybirthedrobbie: are you a robot?? 5 friggin' times already! Come up with something new for a change!!!
I would never get in a JEEP they have always been unreliable.
Yes, Missylovesrobby, I can tell by your posting name you are not the brightest bulb on the tree, kids do dumb things, thanks so much for pointing that out. We would have never thought of that without your expert guidance and comment... however in this particular case their parents knew they were playing this game!! So the parents were aware and did a dumber thing they did nothing to prevent this from happening!! This is what is know as cleansing the gene pool.....
Statisics prove that the most common last words of 14 to 25 yearolds is, "Hey! Look what I can do!"
LMAO!
Sad.
Sorry but the worst part of this story is that stupid people caused peoples train to be late. Probably scaring the trains engineer for life. Just because you want to play some stupid game. Darwin award candidates to be sure.
And for the record, I would say it to their parents. They died because they were dumb. Sorry to say.
Oh Darwin, how hard it is not to love you.