Doctor's report on Lincoln assassination discovered by researcher

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Dr. Charles A. Leale was the first doctor to treat President Abraham Lincoln after he was shot at a Washington theater on the night of April 14, 1865. Helena Iles Papaioannou, a researcher with the Papers of Abraham Lincoln Project has discovered an original copy of Dr. Leale's clinical 21-page report from the night Lincoln was shot.

Researchers at the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library are marveling over the historical equivalent of buried treasure: an up-to-now undiscovered account of the night Lincoln was assassinated, written by the first doctor to treat him.

Dr. Charles Leale was a 23-year-old army surgeon who was in attendance at Ford's Theatre when John Wilkes Booth entered the presidential box and shot Lincoln days after the conclusion of the Civil War. 

Abraham Lincoln researcher Helena Iles Papaioannou discovered Leale's account while searching the records of the surgeon general in the National Archives in Washington, DC. The 21-page report is Leale's own retelling of the tragedy, written just hours after the president died the following morning.


Read the original report on NBCChicago.com

"What is remarkable about this newly discovered report is it's immediacy and poignancy," said Daniel Stowell, director of the Papers of Abraham Lincoln project. "You can sense the helplessness Leale and the other doctors felt that night, but it does not have the sentimentality or added layers of later accounts."

The young doctor was sitting just 25 feet away from the Lincoln box, giving him a front-row seat to the tragedy. He then became the first doctor to treat Lincoln, supervising his care until the president's own doctor arrived.

The National Archives has re-discovered a long-forgotten note written by the doctor who first evaluated Abraham Lincoln after the 16th president was shot in Ford's Theater. NBC's Pete Williams reports.

"The theatre was well filled, and the play 'Our American Cousin' progressed very pleasantly until about half past ten," Leale wrote, "when the report of a pistol was distinctly heard."

"About a minute after, a man of low stature with black hair and eyes was seen leaping to the stage beneath, holding in his hand a drawn dagger."

Leale described how Booth had become entangled in the flag draping the front of Lincoln's box in his leap to the stage. Booth broke his leg in the fall.

"I then heard cries that the 'President has been murdered,' Leale wrote, adding that calls of "kill the murderer" and "shoot him" began echoing through the theatre.

AP Photo/Alexander Gardner

Dr. Charles Leale rushed to the upstairs balcony where Abraham Lincoln had been seated after hearing the president had been shot. He was the first to administer aid
immediately following the shooting.

"I immediately ran to the President's box and as soon as the door was opened was admitted and introduced to Mrs. Lincoln, when she exclaimed several times, 'O doctor, do what you can for him, do what you can!'"

Leale said that Lincoln's breathing was "intermittent" and that he could find no pulse. Using a finger, he removed a clot of blood from the bullet wound and said Lincoln's breathing became "more regular."

The doctor described in great detail how he and others carried Lincoln from the box, down the stairs of the theatre and across the street to the Peterson house across the street.

"We placed the President in bed in a diagonal position, as the bed was too short.  As soon as we placed him in bed we removed his clothes and covered him with blankets. While covering him I found his lower extremities very cold from his feet to a distance of several inches of above his knees. I then sent for bottles of hot water, and hot blankets, which were applied to his lower extremities and abdomen."

Leale said Mary Todd Lincoln entered the room "three or four times" during the evening and that the president's son, Robert Todd Lincoln, remained at his bedside throughout the night. Unmentioned in the report, but well known to history, is the fact that the First Lady was eventually expelled and kept from the room, her grief was so intense.

After hours of futile efforts to save the fallen president, Leale described Lincoln's final moments.

"At 7:20 a.m. he breathed his last, and 'the spirit fled to God who gave it.'"

Leale had received his medical license only six weeks earlier. At the time of the assassination, he was in charge of a wounded officers' ward at the United States Army hospital in Armory Square in Washington. He had been present on the lawn at the White House a few evenings earlier, when Lincoln delivered what would become his final speech to a crowd celebrating the surrender of Robert E. Lee and the Army of Northern Virginia.  Booth was present on the lawn that night as well, and many historians believe he solidified his decision to kill the President that evening.

Researchers at the Lincoln Library say that in the ensuing years, Leale rarely discussed his role in the drama. Indeed, it was not until 1909, 44 years after the assassination, that he spoke publicly about the events at Ford's Theatre.

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Leale's data seems to mimic the written accounts already present.

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#1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 12:08 PM EDT

perhaps you have it backwards, maybe the known accounts were written from the account of Leale

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#1.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:42 PM EDT
Comment author avatarskipster56Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

LOL. Everyone should know by now Lincoln was a Vampire slayer and was probably killed by Booth who was a vampire. Have a great day. P.S. Had to throw this in for a short laugh

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#1.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:58 PM EDT

Actually some time back, I remember that they had some of the letters written by the doctors who had treated Lincoln, showcased in the NYC Public library. I wonder if they are still there? It showed that Lincoln suffered tremendously before he died. In other words, he didn't die right away.

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#1.3 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:02 PM EDT

skipster56,

No laugh here. It is crap like that movie that helps keeps our children ignorant of history.

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#1.4 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:19 PM EDT
Comment author avatarTodd Jolleyvia Facebook

It's parents like you that let a piece of fictional work keep your children ignorant. TEACH your children history. Talk to them, encourage them to read real books. Limit TV time, limit computer time. STOP BLAMING everyone else for your failure to parent and ensure that your children are educated.

  • 21 votes
#1.5 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:25 PM EDT

Skipster,

Very short laugh :(

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#1.6 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:40 PM EDT

It wouldn't hurt if the truth were printed in the history books as well. Such as one version printed in my childrens sixth grade history book which was a lie.It said that the Indians called black soldiers Buffalo soldiers because they were brave like the Buffalo,lol. It didn't take much to be a army surgeon during the civil war. A table,a few strong men and a hack saw was about all they used. Shame Booth got tangled up in the yankee flag when he jumped. Wonder if the letter they found that Lincoln wrote stateing that he wouldn't free a single slave if he could get around it is on display? I doubt it.

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#1.7 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:40 PM EDT

Okicise... That's because no such letter exist. Lincoln was friendly to the Blacks and din't like slavery. Maybe you are refferring that Licoln would have kept slavery if it meant the South wouldn't try to succeed from the North and thus prevent a civil war. That doesn't mean he agreed with slavery.

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#1.8 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

Skipster, I thought it was funny.

It's parents and schools that keep our kids ignorant of history, not FICTIONAL books.

P.S. it's a great book and pretty historically correct aside from the vampire stuff.

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#1.9 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

Okicize Wicasa Yata Pi: I have never heard of that letter, but Lincoln was quoted as saying, “We shall need all the anti-slavery feeling in the country, and more; you can go home and try to bring the people to your views, and you may say anything you like about me, if that will help... When the hour comes for dealing with slavery, I trust I will be willing to do my duty though it cost my life.” Lincoln was one of the father's of the Republican Party, and part of their platform was emancipation. In fact, until the 1960's the Democrats referred to themselves as "the white man's party" and sang racist songs at their rallies. I love reading history books about Lincoln. He was a fascinating man.

BTW - Please be sure that I do not mean this as an indictment of Democrats or a support of Republicans. There was a sort of flip-flopping in ideologies with the parties at a certain point. But up until Lincoln there were only Democrats, and people broke off from there as to what kind of Democrat they would be. Personally, I do not ally myself with any political party and would rather listen to the candidates and decide for myself who I support.

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#1.10 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

pretty historically correct aside from the vampire stuff.

I doubt thatr...as even in school the history on Lincoln is BS. Read up on the man yourself from his critics...he was truly a tyrant. He wasn't for abolition until he needed it to win the war, and abolitionists largely despised him. He was for secession until he was President and his precious 40% tariff (which we know today to be bad economics) was at stake, he admitted being a white supremacist in his own verified quotes, he called the first shot by the South fired to start the war a "desired outcome", he arrested 13,000 - 38,000 Americans for journalism agianst the war and other free speech issues which he held without trial in military prisons, he tried to arrest the Supreme Court's Chief Justice, he basically purposefully provoked an unncessary war (we know this because of his writings and because every other slave nation in the world ended their slavery without Civil War - Haiti was not a Civil War, it was slave revolt) that killed over 2% of all Americans (650,000 with a population of 30 million, or in today's terms 6+ million Americans out of 300,000,000...the equivalent in relative terms to the Jewish Holocaust of WW2), he admitted himself that the war neither over slavery nor the safety of the American people - but instead over a right to secession he himself supported until he took office and his tarrif was at stake, and I can on and on and on and on...

The man was a tyrant. He opposed a tyranny of slavery only as a tactic to win a war. The secession did NOT start over possible emancipation of the slaves, but because the North tried to stop the spread of slavery into the Wastern territories (which was a noble effort on the North's part). Lincoln was in favor of the never ratified (as the war broke out before it was ratified...but it did pass both houses and was signed by the President) original 13th Amendment that kept slavery legal for ALL TIME in the USA. He knew full well slavery was going to end anyways, economically (it is simply inferior to wage labor in terms of efficiency in industrial societies - wages are cheaper). It was only the dying agrarian way of life that maintained slavery, and since that life was coming to an economic end due to the industrial revolutions' progress in technology, slavery was doomed in developed nations (hence it was ended in all other nations without civil wars). He started the war over political power; he didn't want people to secede when it was inconvenient for him. He did 10 times what Bush and Obama have in circumventing the Constitution in wartime. People literally had no rights, North, South, or West.

He was probably the worst President in American history, but because some murderer shot him in the head, we deified the monster.

Sure, freeing the slaves was noble idea...but why did abolitionists oppose Lincoln? Becuase he didn't free slaves in the 2 Northern States where slavery was legal with his Emancipation Proclamation. He only freed them in the South, a territory he did not control...but why? As a war tactic, nothing more. He said:

"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing
about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races -
that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes,
nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and
I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the
white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living
together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot
so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior
and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior
position assigned to the white race."

Also:

If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if
I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could
save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.

And this exchange:

"But what am I to do in the
meantime with those men at Montgomery? Am I to let them go
on?"

Baldwin replied:

"Yes sir, until they can be
peaceably brought back."

Lincoln then
replied:

And open Charleston, etc.,
as ports of entry, with their ten percent tariff . . ."

...(as opposed to the much
higher forty percent Federal tariff)...

"What then would become of my tariff?

Clearly, we're told half the story and then we assume we know who Lincoln was...but we're being lied to by omission. The man was a horrible tyrant who allowed his troops to do things like rape, murder, burn down private property that had no direct involvementi n the war, etc. It's not right he was shot, it's not right slavery was kept in place when the Constitution was written, but it's also not right what he did, that the States after this man took office were no longer joined voluntarily in the Union, but by force (effectively ending the idea of the Republic), and that he used the first ever draft to make men fight for a cause they did not agree with on the penalty of death or prison, and that he installed an unConstitutional income tax thjat was later overruled and thrown out by the Court after his death (they feared him too much in life). It took an Amendment to bring about an income tax, and Lincoln knew it...but did it anyway. Anyone, including the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court (a co-equal branch of government), that opposed him was ordered arrested without right to trial or to knopw even the chrages against them. Drafting men to die on penalty of death or prison started here, and it has been used ever since even though conscription (forced military service) is directly akin to slavery and one of the major reasons we fought the War of 1812.

Don't listen to the Cult of Lincoln. Their historians are garbage. Doris Kearns Goodwin, perhaps the most popular and famous Lincoln Cultist, is a plagiarist for God's Sake! Look it up! She didn't just plagaiarize a few words or sentences, she plagiarized literally pages of text!

That's what passes in our schools, media, etc., for Lincoln "scholarship".

BTW, I'm not from the South nor am I a "neo-confederate". I'm actually for minority rights, gay rights, gay adoption, women's rights, and ending tyranny of all kinds, whether State or federal (or county or town for that matter). But I like to be consistent. To do that, I have to say the truth and call it like I see it. Lincoln is no hero, no abilitionist, no racial prophet, no statesman, and no one we should be shielding from real historical analysis. He was simply a tyrants who got one thing right in his quest to do 1,000 things horribly wrong.

I give him 1,000 Cool Points for ending slavery, and give him -10,000 for how and why he did it. There were alternatives, clearly.

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#1.11 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

#1.5 -

Seems then I can safely say You, are not a parent, and hence you have no idea of the complexities of parenthood, and so, hence place far too much burden on them.

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#1.12 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 5:31 PM EDT

"When I look back at all the crap I learned in high school. It's a wonder I can think at all".

Simon and Garfunkle

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#1.13 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 5:37 PM EDT

ProIndividual- You just lived through the worst presidency in this country's history. George W. Bush and de facto president Dick Cheney. An idiot on one hand and a treasonous bastard on the other. They damaged this country in ways second only to a shooting civil war.

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#1.14 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 6:35 PM EDT

proindividual

Lincoln was a true Republican.

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#1.15 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 6:49 PM EDT

Oh Bluelake .. <Yawn...> more crap, misery and exceedingly high mis-perception about the benefits and ills of government.

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#1.16 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

klondiko,

re : post 1.13

"...crap I learned in High School etc... etc....."

Simon and Garfunkel? NO CIGAR! Try Paul Simon

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#1.17 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 6:56 PM EDT

Merlin, Paul Simon wrote it, Simon & Garfunkle recorded it.....you both get cigars...

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#1.18 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 7:11 PM EDT

millknee. you're wrong. simon recorded it as a solo artist. Garfunkel had nothing to do with "Kodachrome".

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#1.19 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 7:39 PM EDT

ProIndividual

re: post 1.11

I don't think you're appreciating the position Lincoln was in. The rebellion wasn't just in the South. Some Northern papers and organizations were providing support to the rebels by posting disheartening propaganda and whipping up support forthe South's secession. The government he inherited from Buchanan was thoroughly penetrated by Southern sympathizers right up into his cabinet. Buchanan's Secretary of War broke up what small military forces the Nation did have into small units and spread them around the country- mainly in the South where they could easily be captured at the commencement of hostilities.

Thats stuff just off the top of my head. For an expert eyewitness analysis and commentary you should read/listen to:

"Personal Memoirs of US Grant" by Ulysses S. Grant

You can download it as an audiobook or a .pdf file at www.booksshouldbefree.com . General/President Grant provides readers with an excellent run-up to the outbreak of hostilities, discussing the Secession and the treasonous acts of the Southerners while still holding positions in the US government. He discusses the position of impotence assumed by Buchanan and how his inaction and dereliction of duties allowed Secessionists to attempt to build a nation through the theft of US Government supplies and properties and also how the real reason for secession was the passing of political power from the southern bloc to that of the North. After losing the election they pretty much acted like a spoiled kid who takes his ball and goes home because the umpire called him 'out!'. As I listened to this audiobook I realized that this was the best assessment of Southern reasoning and actions I've come across. It is worth the time to read or listen to this memoir

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#1.20 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 7:59 PM EDT

Pro-individual: I guess I could take out specific items from famous and beloved historical figures and make them seem like tyrants. Lincoln generally opposed slavery and most certainly opposed any expansion of slavery, he agreed that abolition of slavery would require a Constitutional amendment because the Constitution allowed it. He supported the Corwin amendment (unratified) to try to avoid the Civil War - but it was too late. Lincoln sentiments are fairly clear in a 1855 letter to Joshua Speed (six years before he became president), and again in his letter to Horace Greeley in 1862 that you posted partially (see especially the last line):

How can any one who abhors the oppression of negroes, be in favor of degrading classes of white people? Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes." When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and catholics." When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretence of loving liberty — to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be take pure, and without the base alloy of hypocracy [sic].[8]

Letter to Greeley:

I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.

I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free

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#1.21 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 8:21 PM EDT

Mike2010, Lincoln may have been a Repblican but he was no conservative, there is a huge difference between the pre-Civil War Republicans and todays Rethuglicans. Conserveatives were the Torries during the Revolutionary war, they were the Confederates during the civil war and they are the Fascists NOW! Since the inception of theis nation conservatives have done everything in their power to destroy this nation and what it stands for.

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#1.22 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 8:42 PM EDT

Lincoln was by far one of the worst presidents in history. Lincoln WAS a true criminal. he arrested those who did not agree with him, suppressing free speech. He arrested many without due process or proof.He suspended the constitution there by taking away all peoples rights. He is directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of us citizens. He also used the military against this countries own citizens even those who were not actively fighting for or against him. He prevented congress from meeting to be able to go against him. This was a person who FAILED at EVERYTHING he ever tried including being a president as he became a dictator! If any "president" should have ever been tried for WAR CRIMES it should have been Lincoln, the real shame is the military did not turn on him and arrest him!!! NOT A SINGLE ONE OF OUR FOREFATHERS WOULD HAVE AGREED WITH HIS ACTIONS TO ACOMPLISH HIS GOALS! based on what they stood for, most everyone would have been fighting against him!

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#1.23 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 9:40 PM EDT

FuzzyBear...although I'm a registered Democrat, I too, tend to look at EVERYyone running. The future of our country isn't a game as too many ppl play it. Lincoln was far ahead of his time, not just for the US of A, but for people in general. I just wish the dipstick "politicians" we have today had as much guts, instead o' the lil wimps that somehow get elected time after time by kissin' so much....well....u know where I was goin' with that. Now, we're faced with another Presidential election. Obama who's supposed to fix in 4 years what took 8 years to mess up under another administration, and Romney, who's never really done much at all. I wonder if he's ever even had a blister. Probably not when he was polishin' that silver spoon. Few Presidents have or will really stand out, and Lincoln was one of them without a doubt, and that's why we're called the UNITED States of America. Romney will divide us again.....mark my word, that is...IF he gets elected, and that will be a sad day for the country.

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#1.24 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 11:44 PM EDT

TEACH your children history. Talk to them, encourage them to read real books. Limit TV time, limit computer time. STOP BLAMING everyone else for your failure to parent and ensure that your children are educated.

that's because most parents are busy brainwashing their kids with BuyBull nonsense and christian mythology to teach them anything real, like history and its lessons. It's cult gibberish like that which is destroying this nation!

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#1.25 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:02 AM EDT

...Lincoln was the best republican to ever live!

That's because Lincoln was a Northern Liberal. And he wasn't a hypocritical christian.

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#1.26 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:03 AM EDT

Bluthunder: I think you must mean Richard Nixon, not Abe Lincoln. Both Republicans. But Lincoln succeeded in saving the Union (and as a consequence, given the totalitarian governments of the 20th Century) our freedom. Nixon damn near ripped our nation apart.

    #1.27 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:06 AM EDT

    bluthunder, 1.23. I disagree that none of the Founders would have agreed with him. I believe the historical record tells us it's likely Thomas Paine would have agreed that tearing apart what was then an unjust union was acceptable to even violence in creating one more just. Then again, Thomas Paine's words, actions, deeds usually upset people, even 230+ years later. Maybe that's why he's my favorite Founder! Radicals all!

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    #1.28 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:24 AM EDT

    I think it's amusing that people who claim a president is the best or worst ever are generally only comparing him to his predecessor.

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    #1.29 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 6:11 PM EDT
    Reply

    It's nice to read something historic and of value, rather than the rotten stories that MSNBC and other so called media outlets usually focus on.

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    Reply#2 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

    No one's making you read anything you find not to your liking . . . easy . . . find another source . . .

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    #2.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:42 PM EDT

    MSNBC is like Howard Stern...no one listens because they WANT to, we listen because we want to hear what outrageous things he will say next... except that the things Mr. Stern says are actually funny, MSNBC is just repulsive.

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    #2.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:00 PM EDT

    Hey Patrick....I didn't mean to offend you or whoever it must be in your family who apparently works for some crappy media outlet. I don't recall that I wrote anywhere in my statement that anyone is "making me read" their articles, I pretty much pointed out that most of what we read is gloom and doom and pointless. But hey, if you just felt like pointing out what a tool you are, then mission accomplished.

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    #2.3 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:09 PM EDT

    Howard I would suggest you return to Fox news for your daily dose of kool aid !

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    #2.4 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:13 PM EDT

    Fox News sucks too! Still too liberal for my liking ha.

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    #2.5 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:23 PM EDT

    Ken, what Patrick said is both simple and true. He wasn't countering any claim that anyone was making you do anything, nor did he express any insult taken (which makes the attempt at a personal insult on your part all the more out of place). You implied that you don't like MSNBC, and he suggested that you then cease to pursue it as a source of your news.

    He didn't look at all like a tool. Rather, you appear to be someone who over-reacts to the slightest hint that someone may be attempting to counter what you say.

    • 6 votes
    #2.6 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:26 PM EDT

    Onemorevoice, better read what Patrick wrote again. He was attacking Ken.

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    #2.7 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 5:41 PM EDT

    No one's making you read anything you find not to your liking . . . easy . . . find another source . . .

    Where is the attack in that? I won't deny some attitude, but there's no insult. It was a factual statement.

      #2.8 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

      One-More-Voice: Ken, what Patrick said is both simple and true. He wasn't countering any claim that anyone was making you do anything, nor did he express any insult taken (which makes the attempt at a personal insult on your part all the more out of place). You implied that you don't like MSNBC, and he suggested that you then cease to pursue it as a source of your news. He didn't look at all like a tool. Rather, you appear to be someone who over-reacts to the slightest hint that someone may be attempting to counter what you say.

      Well said, and worth repeating.

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      #2.9 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:05 AM EDT

      It cannot be factual that FOX News and affiliates were partially owned by the Lincoln Family. I may have heard that on the left wing nut job NBC. But then,,, so what? They often provide incorrect info.

        #2.10 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 1:10 AM EDT
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        Comment author avatarlet's laugh and say !!!!Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        WHAT A COINCIDENCE ; they found more information on lincoln , doing a time where a '' DEMOCRATIC LINCOLN '' is serving in office today !!!!!!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR OUR PRESIDENT

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        #3 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

        Read the comments further. Lincoln was a GOP Elected President. Obama still thinks of himself as the next Lincoln. Maybe in another lifetime. He is just the opposite, the worst president in the History of our great Country

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        #3.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

        Are you serious!!! No comparison, Lincoln wanted freedom for all, O wants NO freedom for all. Big difference!!!

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        #3.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:38 PM EDT
        Comment author avatarWorm meatExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Lincoln was a believer in freedom for all and died for that belief. obama wants to enslave us all to the government.

        • 29 votes
        #3.3 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:39 PM EDT

        Maybe you should take a history lesson to make that statememt

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        #3.4 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:40 PM EDT

        Lets laugh, Not funny. You have got to be kidding.

        • 2 votes
        #3.5 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

        Obama like Lincoln? Only in his mind.

        • 11 votes
        #3.6 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:46 PM EDT
        Comment author avatarTiger4LifeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Lincoln was a progressive liberal republican.... Republicans today do not represent Real republicans....Republicans today are far right extremist.....not unlike the Taliban

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        #3.7 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

        Lincoln was a great president in his day. He was a republican. A real republican. Not the psychotic "Obama is trying to enslave us" brainwashed "Fox News" watching "Obama hates America" morons that infest us today. I don't vote because of people like you. The american public, for the most part, are the dumbest people ever! So shamefully ignorant that it ruins any kind of real progress or honesty in the voting process. Any country that would vote GWB into the most powerful office twice is beyond lost. It will take so many generations after me to fix this pool of garbage. You amaze me with this level of decline in human intelligence. Your life is going to suck anyway so don't bother getting mad at me. Obama is a million times better than any, and I mean any of the joke for candidates that your pathetic excuse for the republican party has thrusted before us. If you disagree then you are part of the problem and there is nothing you could possibly say that would change that.

        • 8 votes
        #3.8 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:24 PM EDT

        Tiger4Life, Really?? Comparing republicans to terrorist? you really need to wake up and get a life.

        • 6 votes
        #3.9 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:26 PM EDT

        Sorry. The Obama haters bring the anger out in me. Lets laugh, that was a stupid comment and that comparison should never be made. I wanted to origanally write that I love Lincoln. He was a fascinating man and President. It is really cool to hear new history about such a significant part of our past. Awesome!

        • 2 votes
        #3.10 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:31 PM EDT

        Lincoln was a Republican.

        Today's Republican's are not close to the Republican Platform Lincoln had, and neither are the Democrats true Democrats anymore. That ended with JFK as the last true Demo.

        Leale writings are very interesting and do belong on a post to discuss.

        "He pulled a Clot out of a bullet wound with his finger"?--That was medicine then..

        • 2 votes
        #3.11 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

        dissapointed & ashamed, I don't know about anyone else but as for me I am very glad that you don't vote. Apparently you are one of those people who believe the government should control our every move. Just remember there is no government in this country that has a power except that which the people allow.

        The government has no money but that which it takes in taxes from those that work. Goverment should be there to help those who need it but also require those who take government help to be responsible and participate in their own progress towards self sufficiency.

        • 3 votes
        #3.12 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:02 PM EDT

        The GOP and Democratic platforms were very different back then. In today's world Lincoln would be considered a democrat. Now the the person (Booth) that killed him is most definitely a NUT JOB !

        • 1 vote
        #3.13 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:18 PM EDT

        Disappointed and ashamed, we meet again. I cannot believe the trash that you are spewing across the web. Poor weak-minded Liberals who are unable to think for themselves or take care of themselves will believe what you are saying. It is YOUR people who have brough death to America; your people who have drained the life out of our once vibrant economy, your fault corporations and jobs are being outsourced, your fault our government has spent $8 trillion that we don't have since Obama took Office, your fault our country is flooded with aliens who don't pay taxes and collect welfare that is disbursed using MY hard earned money, your fault I will not be able to inherit my grandfather's farm and wealth that he spent his entire life farming and saving so his children and grandchildren could have a better life than what was available to him, and your fault that that better life my grandfather and father fought so hard to preserve is now in jeapardy. Would you also like me to pay for you to murder your baby? OH WAIT...your people are already on top of that too. You're right about one thing though... "It will take so many generations after me to fix this pool of garbage" that YOUR leader burried us all under.

        • 6 votes
        #3.14 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

        And your IQ is what? About 40?

          #3.15 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:22 PM EDT

          LOL! Jon Exner, if you think for 1 second that the people are in control of the government in anyway then I am talking to a stupid kid. What do you or I control exactly? Not a damn thing. The only thing we control is what Iphone we buy next or what crap you're going to throw down your pipe. Do you want to know what I really believe? I believe that we are beyond the tipping point of the people controlling government. It is unachievable my friend. They do whatever they want. It doesn't matter what tool they have sitting in "the chair" man. You play your patriotic voting game but we don't really decide or control crap. Is it majority vote wins? No. It's not. So it is false. Now be a nice lttle robot and go play the american life game. Enjoy your new Iphone.

          • 4 votes
          #3.16 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:30 PM EDT

          @dissapointed and ashamed-

          typical liberal trash talk. You say you hate the America today- yet you also say you DON'T VOTE!! So in reality- YOU are personally responsible for the mess we see today. You rant and rave yet you have no skin in the game.

          Let me tell you something- Don't you dare say another word on any subject regarding the government or the representatives, in any way, shape, manner or form! You have no say- you took yourself out of the game! You are obviously very happy to just ride along not doing anything to direct the route we all take.

          Personally- I think Obama SUCKS in every way as a President and want him removed this November- and you can bet I will be there casting MY vote for Romney to replace him! And then if Mitt sucks- I can say something about it!

          If you vote this November- you can say something too... but not until then.

          • 5 votes
          #3.17 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

          If you hate America today as bad as you say you do then GET THE HELL OUT.

          • 3 votes
          #3.18 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

          WHAT A COINCIDENCE ; they found more information on lincoln , doing a time where a '' DEMOCRATIC LINCOLN '' is serving in office today !!!!!!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR OUR PRESIDENT

            #3.19 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 7:33 PM EDT

            Ken Grenier: Lincoln was a GOP Elected President

            Wow. Read some history. Lincoln was a northern liberal. There have been so many realigning elections since then, the Republican Platform has changed a dozen times since. Today's republicans were the slave owners and southern conservative christians of the civil war era -- the people who were trying to kill Lincoln. They were also the KKK. Then and now.

            There's your conservative heritage, Ken. Proud of it?

              #3.20 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:09 AM EDT
              Reply

              Where can we read the doc's at??

              • 6 votes
              Reply#4 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

              You can read it at

                #4.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

                Crap! They took out my hyperlink...

                http ://www. papersofabrahamlincoln.org /New_Documents.htm

                I spaced that out... we'll see if it works. It's almost at the bottom of the page... like 5-10 docs from the bottom.

                • 6 votes
                #4.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

                I just tried that site but got "currently unavailable." Perhaps it's my breath (but I used a mint). Or too many of us dropping in at once. Can we perhaps form a single-file line at the door?

                • 5 votes
                #4.3 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 5:01 PM EDT

                #4.2

                Seems that site you posted is " Down " interesting!

                • 1 vote
                #4.4 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 5:42 PM EDT

                Don't tell anyone but the link has two extra spaces and missing the l at the end of htm, it should read .html

                  #4.5 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:09 AM EDT
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                  Surely the documents can be scanned and placed on the net for interested folks to read. I hope this "history" is not "classified" and stored in some drawer down in the catacombs of the Capital.

                  • 11 votes
                  Reply#5 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 12:35 PM EDT

                  ...where it will be examined by top men. Top. Men.

                  • 10 votes
                  #5.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

                  cnjmom, nice ROTLA reference there!

                  • 1 vote
                  #5.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 4:59 PM EDT
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                  I agree, TVAR. What a wonderful find. Seems strange that this was not discovered before.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#6 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

                  Dogma, TVAR and chefaz.

                  Scroll down near the bottom (about 5 or 6 items from the end) of

                  http://www.papersofabrahamlincoln.org/New_Documents.htm

                  • 4 votes
                  #6.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

                  THANK you, GreenTimer.

                  Interesting quirk of fate and observation / inclusion from Dr. Leale regarding Booth becoming entangled in our flag.

                  And what beautiful handwriting.

                  • 4 votes
                  #6.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:26 PM EDT

                  Great infomation!

                    #6.3 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

                    GreenTimer, from your suggested site it reads:

                    This site is currently unavailable
                    If you are the account holder, please contact customer service. Our customer service center is available 24x7 via phone, chat, or email:

                    Email: support@inmotionhosting.com

                    Phone: 888-321-4678 (757-416-6575 Int'l)

                    We cannot disclose any information regarding this account if you are not its owner or authorized party.
                    For the security and privacy of our customers, all account requests are verified prior to the disclosure of account information

                      #6.4 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:36 PM EDT

                      hhhmmmm...i just tried it again and it worked fine. any security blocks on your system that may prevent this???

                      • 1 vote
                      #6.5 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:40 PM EDT
                      Comment author avatarChimesExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      "I agree, TVAR. What a wonderful find. Seems strange that this was not discovered before."

                      It has been available for some time the the book "Killing Lincoln" by Bill O'reily.

                      "I voted for Obama to prove I was not a racist. Now I wonder who I can vote for to prove I am not an idiot."...unknown

                      "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist Professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets."...Marxist Obamba

                      "When classmates in college asked me just what a community organizer did, I couldn't answer them directly. Instead ,I'd pronounce the need for change."...Obamba

                      "I blew a few smoke rings, remembering those years. Pot had helped,and booze;maybe a little blow when you could afford it."...Obamba

                      • 5 votes
                      #6.6 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:45 PM EDT

                      Chimes: You had to make a hate comment against Obama in this column about President Lincoln's assassination. Is being disrespectful two presidents at the same time your standard comment? Do you see Obama as a result of Lincoln's heritage? Is that it?

                      • 6 votes
                      #6.7 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:52 PM EDT

                      Dogma, TVAR and chefaz, and dianarose, an update

                      The clear typed textual transcription of the document may be found at

                      http://www.tristatesradio.com/post/researcher-uncovers-lincoln-assassination-document

                      (Chimes, WARNING you'll have to stick with O'Reilly's version, 'cause this website is from a radical leftwing organization, not to mention that this document was found about a year after O'Reilly's book was written.)

                      • 2 votes
                      #6.8 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:09 PM EDT

                      #6.5

                      Hi Chefaz, sounds like more of someoneelses Security " program " rather then the inquaringminds!!

                      • 1 vote
                      #6.9 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

                      Hey Eagle!!!

                      Where've you been??? ☺

                        #6.10 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 5:37 AM EDT

                        Chefaz been around " Soaring High and having a Birds Eye view " :-) Nice to see you still educating the masses.

                          #6.11 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 2:40 AM EDT
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                          Very interesting. I just watched 2 documentaries about Abe Lincoln.

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#7 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

                          Dogma, TVAR and JAusten.

                          Scroll down near the bottom (about 5 or 6 items from the end) of

                          http://www.papersofabrahamlincoln.org/New_Documents.htm

                          (please forgive the double posting)

                          • 2 votes
                          #7.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 12:55 PM EDT
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                          "... down the stairs of the theatre and across the street to the Peterson house across the street." So where was this Peterson house? Across the street, maybe?

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#8 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

                          Gee, and I always thought it was on the other side of the street.

                          • 4 votes
                          #8.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:21 PM EDT

                          Doug, yeah, I think it was across the street. But hey, sometimes I'm an absolute master of the totally obvious!

                          • 4 votes
                          #8.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:24 PM EDT

                          When you are across the street from across the street then you are where you are.

                          • 9 votes
                          #8.3 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:31 PM EDT

                          But no matter where you go, there you are!!!

                          • 5 votes
                          #8.4 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

                          They carried him accross the street to cross the street & then crossed accross the steet. Somehow, they ended up back at Ford's Theater. "Damn!!! we gotta cross the steet again". (Perfect Benny Hill skit in fast motion.....)

                          • 5 votes
                          #8.5 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:47 PM EDT

                          No doubt the same building that houses the department of redundancy department.

                          • 6 votes
                          #8.6 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:26 PM EDT

                          No matter where you go there you are.

                          • 1 vote
                          #8.7 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

                          And the Ministry of Silly Walks (Python......)

                          • 1 vote
                          #8.8 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:43 AM EDT
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                          @Doug, yes it is directly across the street and is now a historic building. When I visited Ford's theatre last summer, Peterson's house was under renovation and not open to the public.

                          What a wonderful find and just think what it must have been like for this young doctor/officer.

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#9 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:15 PM EDT

                          I have visited that house (and Ford's Theater) - it's amazing and well worth a visit if you are touring Washington DC. Not only is it the place where the president was taken, but it gives you a visual representation of how people lived in those days. It's very well preserved, as is Ford's. The museum at Ford's Theater is great, too!

                          • 6 votes
                          #9.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

                          Miss Copper: But is it still across the street? That's the burning question we need an answer to ;-)~

                          • 5 votes
                          #9.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

                          My wife liked the Peterson house and it's furnishings. She said the Peterson's must have been antique collectors. Got to love her............

                          • 10 votes
                          #9.3 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:17 PM EDT

                          @theoxman--Love it!! Needed a laugh to brighten the day and your post just did it--Thanks!

                          • 2 votes
                          #9.4 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:32 PM EDT

                          I went to the house when I was there doing the tour. I remember telling my wife that the bed was too little for Lincoln. They still have the pillow with his blood on it, encased in clear acrylic.

                            #9.5 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:56 PM EDT

                            The chair on which Lincoln was sitting that night at the theater, a rocking chair with stains still visible, is part of the collection of The Henry Ford in Dearborn, MI. Seen that chair many times. Took the Ford's Theater/Peterson House tour, too--and yes, they sure would like that chair back, but I don't think that will happen.

                            • 1 vote
                            #9.6 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:31 PM EDT
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                            "Dr. Charles Leale was a 23-year-old army surgeon who was in attendance at Ford's Theatre when John Wilkes Booth entered the presidential box and shot Lincoln days after the conclusion of the Civil War."

                            Incorrect. Lincoln was shot on April 14, 1865, and died the next day. This was several days after the surrender of the Lee's Army of Northern Virginia (April 9), but the fighting continued for several weeks. The last battle of the war was the Battle of Palmito Ranch on May 12 and 13. The last significant Confederate force surrendered on June 23.

                            • 2 votes
                            Reply#10 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:21 PM EDT

                            DaveGinOly...sorry to disappoint you, the Confederate forces have not totally surrendered... haven't you heard, the South is going to rise again? We are just patiently waiting for the right time to fire that shot that will be heard around the universe.

                            • 4 votes
                            #10.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:00 PM EDT

                            Your point is valid Dave but many historians consider the official end of the war to be the day Lee surrendered.

                            • 6 votes
                            #10.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:09 PM EDT

                            IN the case of the Civil War as noted Historians look at Lee's surrender as the end of the war and even though fighting did continue it essentially did end with Lee's surrender, sort of like the War of 1812 when that war ended well before the Battle of New Orleans.

                            • 1 vote
                            #10.3 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

                            I am not aware of a Civil War historian who would agree that Lee's surrender marked the end of the war. Lee commanded only the Army of Northern Virginia and did not have the authority to surrender for the Confederacy. President Davis continued to direct operations as well as he could until his capture on May 10. Lee's surrender of the ANV was merely "the beginning of the end" but not the end itself.

                            The analogy with the War of 1812 is not apt. The Battle of New Orleans took place after the official surrender of all British forces by proper authority. In the Civil War, hostilities continued after the surrender of what was only a military field force (although a great one in many respects).

                            • 2 votes
                            #10.4 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:40 PM EDT

                            Chambley: Are you proposing war against the United States?

                              #10.5 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:55 PM EDT

                              Typical East Coast bias. If the war is over in VA, then it must be over all over.

                              • 2 votes
                              #10.6 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:55 PM EDT

                              Lincoln died on April 15th. The Titanic sank on April 15th. Tax day is April 15th. Do we see a pattern here?? Why yes, yes I believe we do. Not that these events have any connection to each other at all, other than the date, but, I can honestly say that April 15th is my least favorite day of the year. I'll let you figure out which one of the above listed events generates the most ire for me personally.

                              I would have included Ceasar, but I really wasn't too sad about that one.

                              • 5 votes
                              #10.7 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:26 AM EDT

                              Ceasar's was the Ides of March which is March 15 wrong month.

                                #10.8 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:48 AM EDT
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                                How curious this comes to light just as the Abraham Lincoln movie hits the box office....

                                • 4 votes
                                Reply#11 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

                                ''take what you have gathered from coincidence''/Bob Dylan

                                • 2 votes
                                #11.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

                                Everyone knows that John Wilkes Boothe was a ghoul in service of the vampires.

                                • 6 votes
                                #11.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:29 PM EDT
                                Comment author avatarChimesExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                It came to light some time ago when the book by Bill O'reily "Killing Lincoln" hit the book shelves.

                                "I voted for Obama to prove I was not a racist. Now I wonder who I can vote for to prove I am not an idiot."...unknown

                                "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist Professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets."...Marxist Obamba

                                "When classmates in college asked me just what a community organizer did, I couldn't answer them directly. Instead ,I'd pronounce the need for change."...Obamba

                                "I blew a few smoke rings, remembering those years. Pot had helped,and booze;maybe a little blow when you could afford it."...Obamba

                                  #11.3 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:43 PM EDT

                                  How curious this comes to light just as the Abraham Lincoln movie hits the box office....

                                  Not really -- it's times like these when people get theri curiosity up, questions facts and representations, and start doing more nad more research into what is being said and portrayed. It's exactly these kinds of times that things like these start to turn up.

                                    #11.4 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:32 AM EDT
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                                    And why was Lincoln assasinated? Because he was taking back the governments right to print and value its' own currency. Find that in a history book.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    Reply#12 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

                                    Lincoln was assassinated because he did not want to take revenge out on the south after the war. The people who plotted his assassination were strongly against the abolishment of slavery.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #12.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:39 PM EDT

                                    That doen't make much sense Chimes..." he did not want to take revenge out on the south after the war. The people who plotted his assassination were strongly against the abolishment of slavery." So they were pissed that he didn't want to take revenge on the south, but were against what he had done?

                                    • 9 votes
                                    #12.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

                                    If you notice the other non-sense chimes has been copying and pasting then all of a sudden you notice it is best to just ignore him.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #12.3 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:14 PM EDT

                                    Bah, I read Chimes's post wrong, and voted it up by accident!

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #12.4 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:30 PM EDT
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                                    fascinating,Our greatest President and the first president to run and be elected as a republican. Now look what they got.

                                    • 6 votes
                                    Reply#13 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

                                    He was the only good president. All the others were slave owners, alcoholics, philanderers, absentees, or war mongers.

                                    Of course, no good deed goes unpunished, so no wonder he was shot in the head.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #13.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 4:53 PM EDT

                                    fascinating,Our greatest President...

                                    Yep. Lincoln was a northern liberal.

                                      #13.2 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:34 AM EDT

                                      Lincoln was also the only President I know of that had a VP from a different party. Johnson was a Democrat.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #13.3 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 4:40 AM EDT
                                      Reply

                                      Thanks to DaveGinOly for setting the record straight and he probably is not a "professional journalist" from MSNBC. Great find though!

                                      • 1 vote
                                      Reply#14 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

                                      He has wonderful handwriting for a doctor - haha. What an amazing find!

                                      • 5 votes
                                      Reply#15 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:27 PM EDT

                                      joe d:

                                      "Our greatest President"....a stretch...elaborate.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      Reply#16 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

                                      He saved our country and ended slavery even though he was hated by both sides for it and he knew he would be assasinated because of it. That takes courage a hell'uva lot of courage. Name one president who did more?

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #16.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 4:13 PM EDT

                                      Ronald Reagan..Thank you very much...

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #16.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 5:41 PM EDT

                                      Ronald Reagan what? nice guy a little senile, but not a great president.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #16.3 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 7:43 PM EDT

                                      Ronald Reagan??? Gimme a break - read "The Bonzo Years" on www.quickchange.com. Good anaysis of the truth (not the myth) of the Reagan presidency.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #16.4 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:12 AM EDT
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                                      When I read "O Doctor", I half-expected the rest to be "do 4 him what U can" LOL.

                                        Reply#17 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

                                        "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?"

                                        • 6 votes
                                        Reply#18 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:31 PM EDT

                                        How does such a special hunk of history get overlooked for so long like that?

                                          Reply#19 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

                                          I was reminded of the very end scene of "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark". I wonder what treasure will turn up next?

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #19.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:43 PM EDT
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                                          Bill O'Reilly's book, "The Killing of Lincoln" talks pretty much in depth about Leale tending to Lincoln soon after he was shot and continuing his vigil throughout the night - having to keep removing clots from the bullet wound so the pressure on the President's brain could be relieved enabling him to breath on his own...

                                            Reply#20 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

                                            But back then doctors rarely washed their hands, so by probing his wound with dirty hands the doc didn't' do him any favors.
                                            If the bullet didn't kill him, infection might have.

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #20.1 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 6:21 PM EDT
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                                            When you look at the Republican Lincoln and compare him to the likes of Nixon, Reagan and the Bushes. Hard as it may seem that absolutely no one good be worse the the W being lead around on a leash by Cheney, but what the hell would America do with a Romney - commit suicide?!?!?

                                            Too bad what the Republican party has turned into!!

                                            • 4 votes
                                            Reply#21 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:36 PM EDT

                                            Neither party has changed very much sinse those days.

                                            Remember how open things were? The democrats were steadfast in opposition to freeing the slaves. Their convention theme song was "@!$%# doodle dandy." Of course, with the availability of information they have become much more discrete.

                                            Isn't that right, Master?

                                              #21.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:47 PM EDT
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                                              Comment author avatarChimesExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                              So PMSNBC thinks they have a breaking story of a new discovery. This entire situation is well documented in the book "Killing Lincoln" by Bill O'reily which has been out for some time.

                                              "I voted for Obama to prove I was not a racist. Now I wonder who I can vote for to prove I am not an idiot."...unknown

                                              "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist Professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets."...Marxist Obama

                                              "When classmates in college asked me just what a community organizer did, I couldn't answer them directly. Instead ,I'd pronounce the need for change."...Obama

                                              "I blew a few smoke rings, remembering those years. Pot had helped,and booze;maybe a little blow when you could afford it."...Obama

                                              • 2 votes
                                              Reply#22 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:37 PM EDT

                                              Bill O'Reilly? The same Bill O'Reilly that is an egotistical, narcissist, blow hard? Here's O'Reilly explaining the rules to a guest speaker on his show: "You don't say nuthin! It's my show and I'll do the talking for you." What a POS!!!!

                                              • 7 votes
                                              #22.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:46 PM EDT

                                              Now you're just spamming.

                                              • 7 votes
                                              #22.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

                                              "....prove I am not an idiot?" Far too late for that.

                                              • 2 votes
                                              #22.3 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:19 PM EDT

                                              Wagonmaster. I was taught at a very young age that it takes a real POS to call someone else one.

                                                #22.4 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:58 PM EDT

                                                Chimes, Dr. Leale's attendence at Lincoln's bedside has been well documented by scholars for many years, and O'Reilly mentions it also.

                                                The actual parchment of the 22-page report written in Dr. Leale's hand has just been found, about a year after the publication of O'Reilly's book. O'Reilly may be good, but prescient he's not.

                                                O'Reilly loves it when folks attribute historical discoveries to him that he never even claimed himself. His income depends on the uncritical acceptance of his banal commentary. The folks he's looking out for keep him recession-proof, and he thanks you profusely while trying not to laugh.

                                                • 4 votes
                                                #22.5 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:56 PM EDT
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                                                sad waste of life after the war was concluded, resulted in the South's being handled badly because Mr Lincoln was not there to direct reconstruction of the Union..

                                                • 1 vote
                                                Reply#23 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:37 PM EDT

                                                Good point.
                                                Andrew Johnson was pretty much spineless.

                                                  #23.1 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 6:25 PM EDT
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                                                  LOVE IT!..Love this kind of stuff when it surfaces. More so hand written journals that take you back to that era. I especially like the way people wrote back then. Almost poetic in the words they chose, almost post Shakespearian if such a word. Any accounts of such a tradgedy today would be so "as a matter of fact" and without heart. Journalist of today have been reduced to a reporting the facts with no opinions of their own of how they themselves feel at the time. More focused on grabbing that Pulitzer Prize than taking a stance on which side of the fence they lean toward. I think the last moment of true jounalisum was when Walter Cronkite announced live that President Kennedy was dead. For a news caster to express tears and emotion was the true essence of journalisum. Now we have "robots" that for all they saw minute by minute on that tragic day of 9/11 won't dare shed a tear or show a sadness for their fellow man. These are the same type of journalists that can sum up the passing of any one of this worlds legends in less than a breath of air just in time to make that next prescious commercial break..

                                                  • 8 votes
                                                  Reply#24 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:38 PM EDT

                                                  One of the best Presidents ever and by the way Republican.

                                                  • 8 votes
                                                  Reply#25 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:39 PM EDT

                                                  Sad thing is, the pubbies and Democrats switched roles sometime during the Civil Rights era.

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                                                  #25.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:03 PM EDT

                                                  Republicans today would never vote for him; waaaay too liberal in his views. Abolish slavery? Pshaw!!

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                                                  #25.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:31 PM EDT

                                                  Lincoln embodies a true conservative value system. It's about freedom for all. Big government restricts freedom.

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                                                  #25.3 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:39 PM EDT

                                                  Government bonds to finance the continental railroad? Does not sound like a 21st century Republican idea. Of course, suspending habeus corpus sounds more like it.

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                                                  #25.4 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:05 PM EDT

                                                  And I don't think the modern day Republicans would support, let alone introduce anything like the Homestead Act. No money in it for their friends.

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                                                  #25.5 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:50 PM EDT

                                                  Custom It was the Democrats who filibustered the Civil Rights Act.

                                                  ajw23 Too much MSLSD?

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                                                  #25.6 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

                                                  Saw where someone quoted Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt at a Republican event and was booed of off the stage.

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                                                  #25.7 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 7:47 PM EDT
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