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Jeffrey Warren found out on senior awards night that he was the winner of a scholarship meant for African-American students.
No big deal.
That's how 17-year-old Jeffrey Warren describes his decision to return a $1,000 college scholarship meant for black students.
“I just thought it was the right thing to do,” says Warren, who is white.
His decision is winning him praise for his character – and offers of alternate financial help.
A hush, followed by some giggles, enveloped the Martin Luther King High School gym in Riverside, Calif., when it was announced on senior awards night that Warren was the winner of the scholarship awarded by the local Martin Luther King Senior Citizens Club.
The $1,000 scholarship, one of two awarded annually by the seniors club, is meant for African-American students. Club members didn’t know Warren is white until he rose to receive the award.
“We just couldn’t believe it at the outset. It was really something. There was a mixed feeling in the crowd,” recalled Etta Brown, chairwoman of the club’s scholarship committee, of the May 22 ceremony.
“People were surprised. Laughter started to come up from crowd,” Warren said. “They still shook my hand, they still said ‘thank you.’”
After some contemplation, Warren and his parents decided to return the scholarship. They sent an email the next day informing the MLK senior citizens club of the decision.

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Jeffrey Warren and his mom Frances Warren on graduation night.
“They said they would accept it back. They were very nice about it. They thanked me for being generous and for being a great kid,” Warren told msnbc.com on Tuesday.
“Jeffrey and I wanted them to be happy,” Rod Warren, who teaches language arts at the high school, told the Riverside Press-Enterprise, which first reported on the episode. “The ladies were trying to do something really nice.”
The scholarship application itself stated only that African-Americans were “encouraged” to apply. Warren applied online and apparently never saw a separate letter sent to school counselors specifying that it was for black students.
Some club members felt Jeffrey should be allowed to keep the scholarship, Brown told msnbc.com. “It was a very thoughtful decision between his family and himself that they would not accept it,” she said.
“I think it says a lot for his character and it says a lot of the character for the family,” said King High School Principal Darel Hansen.
“This was not something the school or school district asked him to do. He in our opinion won the award in good faith though there was a mix-up.”
Jeffrey’s scholarship was later awarded to a runner-up -- a female African-American student.
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Organizations using private money, like the MLK seniors club, are allowed to set their own eligibility criteria for scholarships they grant.
Brown said the club’s scholarship committee will meet to revise the language on the application to clarify it's for African-American students so there’s no misunderstanding in the future.
Warren won’t be totally lacking in financial help for college. Rod Warren told the Press-Enterprise his son applied for 27 scholarships and also won three others, two for $2,000 each and another $500 scholarship.
Hansen told msnbc.com that since the story made local headlines, several people have contacted the school “asking where they could send a check to make a donation to Jeffrey.”
Several teachers also showed up at his graduation party at his home on Saturday and presented him with an envelope with $351 in cash donations collected from school staff.
Warren said he plans to attend San Diego State University in the fall where he will major in English or business, or both. He says he wants to teach, like his dad.
Brown thinks he has a bright future ahead.
“He’s a really neat student,” Brown said. “He deserved it (the scholarship). Martin Luther King would say he did everything right.”
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Doing the right thing is something to be lauded these days ..... it is so uncommon. Congratulations, young man. Not for doing the right thing, but for having the character that demands you do the right thing.
I dream one day we will not be looked at as a white or a black person but rather just a person.
Isn't it ironic that's what MLK preached yet an award named after him discriminates.
Okay, but how is this the right thing ... race-based scholarships?
In the 21st century?
I just don't get it ... don't African Americans find this somewhat offensive, too?
How are we ever going to create a truly unified, global society based on shared human experience if we are still singling out "race"? I don't care if you're black, brown or purple. This should be offensive as human beings ... not as blacks, or whites, or whatever.
There isn't anything right about this except for the unnamed members of the senior's group who thought he should keep the scholarship. That is if the last sentence of the story is not a lie, that Warren did everything right according to MLK Jr. that he deserved the award. Shame, truly shame, on the school and the teachers and the society that continues to support and condone race-based outcomes in the USA. I'm glad he is finding other money to make up for it but this too misses the point.
Think about it...absent any race identifiers he won a scholarship meant to reward academic effort. Which is EXACTLY what MLK Jr. would have himself rewarded, supported, and condoned. Race-based metrics like those used in South Africa to support Apartheid or in the USA to support Jim Crowism, even if used for "good" reasons, are still racist in their very nature. And there is no way to stop being racist without simply stopping being racists.
chad....nail on the head.
Touro Law School on Long Island has (or at least had when I went there) the "LEAP" project. LEAP stands for "Legal Education Advancement Project", or something like that. It's organized study groups and extra help for BLACK AND LATINO law students ONLY. That is offensive on several levels.
1. The law school, off the bat, is telling its black and Latino students they aren't capable of learning on their own so here's the extra help we know you'll need.
2. It's racist. Pure and simple, it's racist. White students not welcome. What else do you call that?
Jesus Christ! Why can't there be a White Scholarship? Wouldn't it be only right if the blacks and other races get a scholarship that whites get one too! When are Whites going to stand up for themselves and put an end to this race based BS. Enough has to be enough. Whites should not be the only people to shoulder the burden of racism and be the only people capable of racism.
Good kid returning that $1,000 scholarship...but he did say in his home town papers..if it was $100,000 scholarship he would think about it..it was awarded by idiots not his fault!
According to Richard Leaky we're all African in origin.
So now we have scholarships based on race and not on performance. While his character is not in question and in fact should be commended, it is the organization (Martin Luther King Senior Citizens Club) that created this racist issue to start with. If He were black it would be ok and no one would blink an eye over it. But because he is white he isn't qualified. That is what is disgraceful and I wil bet Mr. King would agree.
Mr. King said "I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." It would appear that only whites have to abide by this code, because it is organizations like (Martin Luther King Senior Citizens Club) that still cater to the color of ones skin rather than the content of ones character and qualifications. Is racism still prevalent in this nation? Unfortunately Yes! But in many cases, it is the black organizations that still discriminate and create the issue and because of that the rift in our society remains open.
Chad and Aaron, unfortunately double standards and reverse racism are all to prevalent in America today. The DOJ is suing Jacksonville because not enough blacks are passing their standardized tests. Is it really necessary to lower the bar for firefighters so that more minorities can "pass" their tests? If the left would just forget about race 90% of the racial tension and issues would dissolve.
Equality
He didn't do the right thing. The right thing to do would have been to keep the scholarship. It was given based on merit, which is how it should be. That is equality.
He only reinforced racism.
Martin Luther King in his famous speech is preaching against discrimination and yet the scholarship in his name discriminates. Very hypocritical.
How do you figure that it was given to a White kid. I can tell you this that kid will be a better person than you, you my friend has a log on your shoulder not a chip.
Touro Law School's LEAP website states: "LEAP offsets the overt and subtle barriers to success often encountered at predominantly white law schools by fully qualified minority students. The most significant of these barriers is the difficulty a minority student often encounters obtaining necessary information from other students about the academic demands of law school..." (emphasis added by your's truly)
So not only does Touro Law insult the academic capabilities of its black and Latino students, it's also painting all their own white students as racists! Who would want to go to this schoool?!
This is what happens when the liberal/left takes control.
I'm not a racist. I own 4 colored T.V's !
Can you say DISCRIMINATION???
"Jesus Christ! Why can't there be a White Scholarship?"
There can be. Start one yourself. No law against it.
So a senior center that is paid for with tax dollars, the visitors eat food and snacks provided by tax dollars and go on trip with staff paid with tax dollars and they only give scholarships to Black students ? Do I see something wrong here.. This is wrong and this should be illegal.
Yeah, right Sam, if someone started a scholarship for white people only the screaming of racism could be heard to the moon. He should of kept it. Having scholarships intended for blacks only is RACISM! But, I forgot, only white people can be racist.
I would not be surprised if there was a law against it. I'm no expert, but I strongly suspect that if the scholarship was blatantly for Whites only, lawsuits would abound.
I think he must have got the idea of returning the black scholarship from seeing the movie Soul Man. In that 1980's movie the star, C. Thomas Howell, a white boy, darkens his skin to get a black scholarship to college because his rich father won't pay his tuition. In the end he gets involved with a black girl who was supposed to have received the scholarship, and he ends up giving the scholarship back. It's a comedy, and I'm sorry if I spoiled the ending for anyone who didn't see it.
The thing is that when it comes to giving it is only offensive if it is given to a white person, and it is only offensive when it is taken from a black person.
$1000.00 scholarship - what a joke. That is all they can come up with to "help" a student?
Wow, there are enough completely ignorant racially motivated people posting on this site. First of all there are scholarships for whites, asians, christians, jews, hispanics and pretty much every subgroup that exists. There is probably even one for 3 foot tall paraplegic necrophiliacs. All of you people need to stop being so ready to be offended by race. Grow up.
This boy did the right thing and he will be much better off financially because of it.
What a joke. Can you imagine what the reaction would be to a white only scholarship? What about the White Entertainment Television channel. Or maybe White Mrs. America. Why is BET okay? Why is Black Mrs. America okay? It's discrimination, but it is okay because its not white people doing it. He should have kept it, they should not have taken it back.
Texas-
Epic fail. Since you have the apparent ability to use the internet, I must assume you are ignorant by choice. There are beauty pageants for whites only: Miss Italian American, Miss Irish American, etc... Those are only for white people.
You are telling me there is a White Mrs. America pageant? That's the name? I highly doubt that. And BET, tell me it would be accepted for there to be a TV station labeled White Entertainment Television. No it would not. It should not be ok either way.
And as for being ignorant, well maybe I don't know as much as you about pageants. Congratulations on that bud.
Look at this young man. Good heart and good character. Wish him nothing but the best.
You are darn right that this is a race based scholarship because it is of private funding. It is no different when a violin scholarship will require that it is given to a violinist versus a pianist...
Really irritated when idiots try RACE BAITING... Yes, I am directing this note to Derek, Chad, Aaron, GLCSR, BlackKight2, and others... For the record, there are scholarship that are given to WHITE only or Chinese, or Koreans or Jewish, or American Indians... Why are you acting stupid trying to say that racism does not exist? These scholarships are generally used to help those disadvantage students who excel in their area of study.
Becauase, I for one never saw you guys fighting the Masters Golf Club against their discrimination (and non-admittance) of femals. Heck it wasn't long ago that some of these club changed their bylaws to allow "Blacks".... Like I said, you guys are RACE BAITING pond scum.
I got an engineering scholarship meant for minorities and women. Not enough people signed up and they let me in. Worst mistake I ever made. It made it so I had to transfer into MSU after 2 years of community college. Students who took the first 2 years at MSU get into the college after getting a 3.4 automatically, they only accept 40 transfers every year where you have to compete with Japanese students transferring with 4.1 GPAs. Minorities should dodge scholarships designed to screw them over. This honky sure wishes he dodged a scholarship meant to screw over a minority.
Texas-
You really need to work upon your reading comprehension skills.
Wake up people. Whites are the ones that are being discriminated against . It's been going on for years. Miss America pagaents can have any color, and we have had a black Miss america, but there is NO white's allowed in the Miss Black America. There is a Bet(Black entertainment tv), but if we had a wet (white entertainment) it would be discrimination. As it is now, most of the athletic scholorships for football and basketball goes to blacks, even though there are a lot of great white players. Most of the white kids playing ball are walk-ons. They prove they should be there, but still have to pay or their education. I am sick of doing without while I see other races have biggger cars, and a buggy full of groceries, with steaks, roast, pork chops, and the likes and then use that little ebt card to pay for 3-400 dollar worth of groceries, while I have to buy bologna and oodles of noodles to servive on. Yes I am bitter, and I do have some black friends
Really nutgrape.. point me in the direction of a whites only scholarship. The only one I found was in Texas and apparently it got blasted for being racist and ignorant. While I agree that beauty pageants are based on race I really don't agree with it. It is really unfair to allow ANYTHING based on race... wasn't that what the whole civil rights fight was about? Its not about being ignorant or racially motivated, its about the fairness of still allowing race to play a role in the outcome.
Wow, white people: had your parents and grandparents been as open minded about equality and social justice back in the day maybe wouldn't need these scholarships and social uplifts to help maginalized groups today.
White people act like there has never been an ongoing, explicit history of outright racial discrimination, exclusion, violence, aparteid, and segregation in this country for most of its existience. But you try to point out all the statistics that show how white is alright and all other groups are virtual second class citizens - from employment, compensation, median asset value, and health outcomes to social representation, racial profiling and incarceration rates vs. actual rates of criminality, de facto modern segregation, and the gross disparity of how we perceive and discuss one community versus another.
White people, even when your are dirt poor rednecks making the most hardened "hoodrat' look like they're ballin' like Jay Z and Oprah combined (which still isn't saying much considering the broad host of wealth whites versus wealthy people of color; afterall if you can name all the people of color who are wealthy with little trouble but can only just scratch the surface of the numbers of whites with similar or greater amounts of wealth then it doesn really count as much of a level playing field, does it?) you are still socially well above any person of color in this country socially.
The point is yall cry to damned much. If you're not satisfied with the world your forefathers created from their empire building, tough. We have to deal with your ancestors crap daily, too, and no one ever asked us how we felt about it either. Suck it up, shut it up, or fix it up.
Not sure what "America" your talking about. But where I live, the minorities get it all. Mostly the illegal minorities. Help from the government to buy a house AND a car, food stamps, free health care, ect... Just because people are white doesn't entitle them to ANYTHING. Pull your head out of your a$$ and smell the fresh air once and a while.
Sanaa Msemaji-
BS.. I can tell you this, I have never receivedanything simply for being white. Despite what you may think we are not just handed jobs, grades, degrees or money for being white. I hate to burst that bubble dude. The white privilege line is old man and played out.
It needed repeating in bold.
Thank you, I am glad to not be the only one who knows this.
Before everyone goes nuts and scream about racism, there is also a scholarship for left handed people. So for 90% of the world, you are disqualified. Suck on that, you discriminating people with door handles on the wrong sides of the doors!
Yeah, @!$%# ... why am I even working every day?
According to Sanaa and a few other misinformed individuals, apparently all I need to do is sit around on the couch and ... you know .... just be white.
And why not? Everything is just handed to us, right? You hear that my fellow pasties?
@Memw88, Tell me that you know that there are far more whites on welfare than blacks... Tell me that you're not as ignorant as you sound on #1.33
As for the rest of you race baiting pond scums, if a black and a white have a child, most if not all whites would call that child a BLACK... What if a 1/2 black person have a kid with a white and what is the child most likely labeled" BLACK... If there isn't racism, then why the F, do you not call that child/person a WHITE????? Why is it only WHITE + WHITE = WHITE? HUH? What a bunch of hypocrites...
Hmmm? Where are those white scholarships that nutgrape is talking about?
Here is the thing for all of you who are taking offense at those who are rightly pointing out reverse discrimination. Whites do it because it is true and, because we are tired of the blacks who keep shouting racism instead of getting down to work and making something of themselves like every other disadvantaged minority has. Here is a good illustration of my point. Blacks used to complain of being second class citizens in Miami. Then, Cuban refugees came to the U.S. often in rickety boats after the Cuban Revolution with nothing more than the wet tattered shirts on their backs. Today, they have a large prosperous community with many successful Hispanic businesses. Now, the blacks are complaining about being 3rd class citizens. Why can't the blacks as a group be as successful as every other race? Many of you know why but think it is racism to say it though it is factually true.
I and many others are tired of the blacks blaming everyone else for their lack of accomplishment. And, the whites are not the only race that are tired of the blacks making excuses for themselves. If the blacks want less racism they need to stop using it as an excuse for their failures. It is time for them to face the truth about themselves as a group. If they keep shouting racism and advocate for reverse discrimination, they are going to do nothing but encourage the racism they they supposedly are seeking to eliminate. Yes, I meant to use the word supposedly because their are many in the black community whose bread and butter is racism. And, if there isn't any to be found, they'll make it up. And the blacks are all to willing to latch on any reason as to why they just aren't the blazing success they thought they should be just by being black.
TURD- "Tell me that you know that there are far more whites on welfare than blacks... Tell me that you're not as ignorant as you sound on #1.33"
Come on now, the U.S. is 75% white and 12% black. White welfare recipients make up one more percentage point than blacks. 39% white 38% black, kinda shoots holes in that statement...
As far as mixed babies you can call them whatever you want, never gave it much thought.
There are scholarships for Red heads only, for Irish only, for Catholics only. What is your problem? You are getting your panties in a twist about this scholarship (which by the way is PRIVATE funding) so the dip that wanted to go off on "taxpayer money" needs to learn how to read.
So lets do a little history shall we? Ms America, there were NO blacks allowed for decades and even then it wasn't until Vanessa Williams won that Black women actually competed.
BET? Yes it was created by a black man because black artists could/would not be played on MTV (and no there was NO rap at that time). It wasn't until Michael Jackson's Billy Jean that MTV relented and started playing videos of black artists. And then Ben Johnson the man that created BET sold it to a WHITE group and they decided that changing it's name would hurt their profits, so they left it as it was created, BET.
Traditionally black people were not encouraged to go to school and in some places it was against the law. So black people learned and they taught each other, they build and staffed HSBC's so that their children could continue learning if that was their goal. It is also how the United Negro College fund came into play because black students could not apply for scholarships.
When people get all stupid about anything that says black on it, they seem to forget the things that made it NECESSARY to come up with the things that black people needed to move ahead in this country.
And Chad and all of the rest of the "I don't get anything simply because I'm white crowd" yes you do and you don't even know it. I find it funny to watch the people in my office and we have a few that believe that it is their right to do NOTHING all day and still be paid. I get so much joy out of making sure that they get paid for the actual work they do and not their goof off time. (yeah I do payroll and I see everything that they do, and my boss the CFO (white conservative female) backs me up every step of the way!!!
I think that they should give another scholarship to this young man. He did all the things that they asked of him, but that is not why he should get it. He should get it because he is the type of HUMAN being that we need in this world. More so than a lot of the simpletons posting on this thread.
comments like Memw88 is simply bigotry and baseless. Much like comments by Joe Walsh (R, Rep from IL). http://news.yahoo.com/joe-walshs-racist-remarks-exemplify-gop-bigotry-blame-183800380.html;_ylt=A2KJNF928tdPewcA1ufQtDMD
Oh, guess whatelse Rep Joe Walsh owe? Child Support!! Know how much? $100,000, Now that equates to approximately 6 years of welfare that he stole from another child! One of the reason stated was that he didn't have an income... now he is a government official receiving government pay??? IS IT ME OR DOES THAT SOUND LIKE WELFARE??? JUST A TEA PARTY VERSION???
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/6720892-418/tea-party-rep.-joe-walsh-sued-for-100000-in-child-support
Awww, well that was definitely the white thing to do.
Name something I am entitled to because I am white? I do not want to miss out.
Good!! That was the "white thing" to do......
Isn't it wrong to award only one particular people. Isn't this a little racist, only african-americans can get it but nobody else. If there were a scholarship for only white students, there probably would have been a riot by now.
It is not what I call the babies... It is how we as a society choose to see the baby. The sad truth is the denial of our own racial bias.
It is obviously true that there are more far more whites than blacks. However one can only use that % if and only everyone start from the same starting point. Unfortuantely, blacks don't start from the same point as white. One need to measure from similar benchmarks. 25% of blacks live below the poverty line while 9% of Whites live below the poverty line. If that is the case, then is it only 9% of White are on welfare and only 25% are on welfare. So instead of trying to make welfare a race issue, we need to see it as an economic issue. It is obviously not about color nor race. The 2 biggest common factors appear to be Single Woman or Foreign-Born.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:sEnJtgO7GDQJ:www.npc.umich.edu/poverty/+24.7%25+black+poverty&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Here is another quick academia summary of welfare distribution in the early 1930s... The welfare program wasn't even geared for the Black single mother in comaprison to the foreign single mothers. The blacks made up less than 3%! So given the initial distribution, should we be led to believe that the Blacks were more wealthy prior to civil right movements??? Come now...
In the same article there is a quick read on "The Perpetuation of the Racialized Welfare System" which gave more quick summaries.
http://academic.udayton.edu/race/04needs/welfare01b.htm
? white only scholoarships or awards?
Texas (white and male only): http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/03/01/the-white-males-only-college-scholarship-fund.html
I believe it is absolutely FINE to provide awards that targeted to particulars. Those are PRIVATE FUNDINGS. Would you be surprised if KKK provide a white person a scholarhip? Is that racism? NO!!!! The guideline is specifically targed. There is no public money involved. Now, if a corporation is involved, then I would start question its intention. Like I mentioned earlier, if the scholarship is geard for BOY Scout, is that discriminating against girls??? Come on, don't be stupid and get caught up in RACE BAITING by stupid neo trolls...
there are more, but it should wake some of you people toting the lines for those race baiting scums.
I don't see "white" anywhere. A black scholarship is simply skin color, these are for nationalities. Or are there no black Germans, black Poles, Jews or even Italians? Try again.
It took me about 10 seconds to also find that there are many "white only" scholarships. Come on people, use Google before you embarrass yourself. And the really fun part, there are several given out at historically black universities and colleges to attract racial diversity.
FYI... Less than 4% of all scholarships in the USA have a race criteria. If you can't get a scholarship, it's most likely because you didn't work very hard in school.
The point is they gave this kid the scholarship they should not have accepted it back. Maybe I am wrong but I do not believe MLK would approve of a racially decided scholarship. You type in white only scholarship in google it also only takes 10 seconds to see the word controversial. That is the point most here have been getting at.
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." MLK
Character does indeed count. In giving up a $1,000 scholarship, he won a $Million worth of good will.
Aaron @1.4 -
You should have reported them. LEAP (Learning Educational Assistance Partnership) funds are federal grants. There is no way this should have been race, religion, nationality or gender based.
It's their money, they have a right to give it to whomever they pls. No one is telling you which charities to give to, are they. Would you listen if they did?! Plenty of scholarship are tagged for specific groups.
Boy oh boy, if it had been a White Only scholarship, we'd have Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton rounding up their Black Panther mob so they could march around outside, demanding money for their hurt feelings...
Then there is racism in every aspect of our culture, figures. It should not be allowed across the board. But we are still very child like, maybe in another thousand years.
Does it matter if there are white scholarships as well? White, black, or polish, it is a bad idea. As long as we continue to separate ourselves from one another, racial tension will continue.
Scholarships should be based on need and student performance, race shouldn't even be asked. Poorer races would might receive more help overall (as long as they meet performance requirements), but only because they have a number of financially eligible students. Individual students would have the exact same chance regardless of race.
An unfair system will not make up for past racial injustice, it will only extend racial tensions.
I have no problem with scholarships directed toward helping disadvantaged demographic minorities. I have no problem with scholarships directed toward helping... whomever, really. Redheads, fat kids, cat lovers... Whoever fronts the money gets to choose - it's entirely within their right to do so.
They are already born into an unfair system because of a legacy of racism, discrimination, and slavery. Such scholarships work as a counterbalance, to help those who strive above the fray to work their way out of generational poverty.
Don't try to feed me that 'racism is dead' blather either, I'm a white male with a past of my own living in mid Georgia. I know full well it aint dead. Lots and lots of cowards who hide their racism until they feel comfortable enough to confide in the guy with nordic tattoos and a buzzcut.
And if u study your history a bit more, u'll know that blk americans also not only make up a race but a nationality or ethinic grp. Afro-americans nationality starts here in america since they were uprooted from their own land with no connection to their country.
Shuklack
I have no problem with scholarships directed toward helping disadvantaged demographic minorities. I have no problem with scholarships directed toward helping... whomever, really. Redheads, fat kids, cat lovers... Whoever fronts the money gets to choose - it's entirely within their right to do so.
They are already born into an unfair system because of a legacy of racism, discrimination, and slavery. Such scholarships work as a counterbalance, to help those who strive above the fray to work their way out of generational poverty.
Don't try to feed me that 'racism is dead' blather either, I'm a white male with a past of my own living in mid Georgia. I know full well it aint dead. Lots and lots of cowards who hide their racism until they feel comfortable enough to confide in the guy with nordic tattoos and a buzzcut.
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So shuklack
i wonder why more folks do not have the same wisdom as u do.
Any award based "totally on Race" is Discriminatory.While "thturd" list awards from different countries, there are people of many colors that are from those countries that can be awarded those Scholarships. This award was given based on Scholastic average and a application process and was given based on that criteria. Now the Scholarship will be given to an individual with a lower scholastic standard because of preference based on Race. When is the last time a person can remember a White Only Scholarship be given and announced at a Graduation Ceremony? There would be cries of "racism" and O'Bama's Boy Eric would be launching a Federal Investigation. In today's society the only openly Racist Organizations are Black Organizations. They include the following: NAACP, Black Student Colleges & Scholarships, every School and College has Groups that are for Black Students only. If schools had groups for White Students only, they would be "Forced" to disband because of cries of Racism.
Actually, whoever puts up the scholarship is well within their rights to determine whatever criteria they choose. So an investigation would be pointless.
But to answer your question as to why you don't see white scholarships? Oh I dunno, maybe BECAUSE MOST ALL SCHOLARSHIPS ALREADY GO TO WHITE KIDS WHO GET BETTER EDUCATIONS FROM BETTER SCHOOLS WITH BETTER FUNDING?!??! Maybe because statistically whites have a HUGE advantage over minorities when it comes to getting a good education, being in a good home with a good income that can provide and support a student?
You want a white only scholarship? Quit complaining about it and start one... ffs..
Maybe that crossed your mind?
Gonna complain about BET next?
Give me a break. This white victimhood crap is pathetic. Awww, did you not get your cookie today wittle Johnny?! Well, wittle Johnny, that's because YOU ATE THE WHOLE JAR YESTERDAY.
Shuklack, did you read my post at all? Yes, many blacks typically have less money, partly because of the unfair treatment of black people in the past. The solution, however, is not to help black people. The solution is to help people that need it. By targeting need, you will end up helping a disproportionately larger amount of blacks, without actually focusing on race.
If twice as many black people are in the economic qualifying range, then twice as many blacks would get one. (assuming equal academic qualification) But every person would have an equal chance to win. Everybody gets one lottery ticket. If there are 3 white kids, and 7 black kids, there is a 70% chance a black kid will win, but EVERY kid has exactly a 10% chance to win.
That is how to be fair without considering or even knowing race. It accounts for the economic effect of past racial inequality without actually bringing race into the equation.
GOD you people are such IGNORANT TRASH. There ARE private Scholarships for whites, asians, christians, jews, hispanics, Left handed people, Native americans. Nothing illegal about it.... You want more for white? start your own. Again... THERE ARE SCHOLARSHIPS FOR WHITES!!!!! THERE ARE SCHOLARSHIPS FOR EVERY DAMN GROUP. MANY diff ppl feel certain groups need more help, and will start foundations to help them. STRAIGHT WHITE MEN ALREADY HAVE AN ADVANTAGE OVER EVERYONE ELSE... god FORBID someone comes along TRYING to level the playing field. When discrimination and racism are a thing of the past... THEN come bitching and moaning.
and this boo hoo poor white guy victim routine is damn sad. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh i reaped the benefits of the system.... now someone is trying to give someone else a shot waaaaaaaaaaaaah
To address the better schools for white people issue...
You don't address the problem by lowering standards, you address the problem by fixing the schools. All PUBLIC schools should be funded equally (with adjustments made for regional cost of living). Rich or poor, every school offers the same opportunity.
The fact of the matter is... they are not equal....
"I don't see "white" anywhere. A black scholarship is simply skin color, these are for nationalities. Or are there no black Germans, black Poles, Jews or even Italians? Try again."
And dont be retarded, with fail attempts at semantics. How many black or hispanic kids do you think get those scholarships he listed?? Even if black ppl live in Ireland i bet you 99% of the time they sure as hell arent HERE in the US applying for scholarships...
Oh and FYI "African American" is just as much an ethnicty/nationality as "Irish American" or "Italian American" or "Jewish"
Oh and FYI "African American" is just as much an ethnicty/nationality as "Irish American" or "Italian American" or "Jewish"
Hayabusa, the other 'white' scholarships are just as wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Hey, there are sholarships for being black. So get over it and grow up already. Also, try not being a racist because YOU ARE if you have a problem with that.
You are. It isn't a discussion. You now need to be told and others informed about you, if you are still arguing with it. So people can be aware that you are a bigoted racist a*sh*le.
An adult would have gotten over it already, but some people just don't want to learn.
There were drinking fountains for black people too. They existed very much out of racism. Separate but equal. You have your scholarships and I have mine. Not a good policy.
I don't know who the racist rant was directed at, but you are taking a narrow minded view.
Saying there shouldn't be scholarships for being black doesn't mean black people shouldn't be getting just as many scholarships as they do now. Just not for being black. Or white. Or Jewish.
Because that would be racism!
Isn't it great that there are those who demand special treatment so they can pretend to be equal.
OK everyone. Go to Wikipedia and search "Whites Only Scholarships". Yes, there is an entry in there for this. (Google is a wonderful tool to fight against ignorance.)
And, Shulack, you are right. Racism is live and well. I grew up White in Birmingham, AL in the Civil Rights Era and at the time of the race riots. However, my parents kept me insulated from all this. I was raised to never think of race as any sort of issue. It wasn't until I started dating (and subsequently married) a multi-racial man (African American, Puerto Rican, and White, but most would assume he is African American) that it really came to my attention that racism is alive and well, just in hiding now. The looks we get when we are out in public are astounding in this day and age. And, not just from the Whites. Blacks get in on it too. The looks of disgust from the White population are directed at him and the looks from the Black population are sent my way. One day, I took his son from a previous relationship with an African American woman shopping. The looks I got from many of the black women in the store because I was helping this young black man find suitable clothes for school were absolutely scary. In one instance, one woman held back her friend from giving me a "piece of her mind and why I need to leave THEIR men alone." (Uh, that is one mind I don't want any portion of, thank you!)
One more thing - it is not just in the South. We have traveled all over the country and we get these looks everywhere we go. The funniest was in Sand Point, Idaho. We went there for a family wedding. We went to the local WalMart and people would stop dead in their tracks to openly stare at us as we hand in hand walked by. To test this, we next went to a grocery store. He went in by himself. He reported that he did get some looks of suspicion, but not the all out jaw dropping stares. I guess the thought of a White woman with a "Black" man was just too much for them.
I think we need to start a non-profit to give scholarships to whilte American born males. If they can have black only scholarships than they can't call this idea racist. Fair is fair, oh, wait not to this administration, but legally we can do it anyway.
To everyone in this thread that said the words "reverse racism", there is no such thing as "reverse racism". There is only racism. As a white girl from the south, I can tell you that racism is alive and well, in all rases.
@ Texas: your arguement is weak and feeble. Given evidence of existing "white only scholarships" you're still trying to argue that the original intent of targeted scholarship is racial instead of focusing on the postive act of providing toward children education and the teen's understand of his own moral compass. I thnik I have made my point of your intend of race baiting and ignorance.
@ the thinker: Perhaps the group of that offers scholarships is racist. We should not take away the intent of improving our children higher education. Nor should we take away people's rights in doing things with their money. Individual rights cuts both ways. There is no law against being a racist. It is actually funny how some of the conservatives on these blogs/post are calling for regulations against these "racist" behavior, yet on the other hand they call for less government and less regualtion! Like my previous post and accusations... they are the likes of Hyprocrites.
Live and let live. There isn't any problem being a racist. ACLU has provided many court defenses for racist individuals and organizations in the past. We do that, because of the greater benefit of our inalienable rights. We Americans are born with those in our country. I will not let those trample on our rights even if I disagree with his/her belief. For there is no wrong nor right to blieve, it is that of action and how it affect those around us.
Man,
I hate to sound like a pretentious @!$%# here, but some of my peers on this board really make me feel intellectually superior. Sadly, however, I'm also left wondering who dropped a steamer in the gene pool?
Let me break it down for a few of you (especially the people who took the time to research "white only" scholarships.)
What part of race-based reward (not being a smart thing) don't you understand? I don't care if there are thousands of white-only scholarships ... the people (like me) criticizing black-only scholarships are against those too, get it?
My god, I must have seen 50 posts listing white-scholarships ... as if that is somehow making a counter point.
Secondly, for all you pulling the: "Well, we were discriminated against and held back for years ... we deserve compensation and a higher-level of advancement opportunity!"
Hmmm, have you ever taken the time to actually read a history book? Every single race, religion, creed and demographic THAT HAS EVER WALKED THE EARTH has been @!$%# on, discriminated against, and overall treated like @!$%#. What should we do, pause civilization and go down the list of atrocities and start handing out compensation and reparations?
If that's the case, guess what? Every single person on this thread needs to pack their @!$%# and renew their passports, because we are going for a ride. After all, not a single one of us would be here if an ancestor of ours didn't partake in the genocidal murder of millions of American Indians.
But no.
That's not what we are going to do ... because it's not realistic.
Just like us thinking we will ever create a global civilization based on shared experience and mutual respect if we are still handing out stickers to this race or that in 50 years. Guess what, we wont.
Is racism dead? Of course not, not even close.
So let's kill it.
But how in the hell can we ever hope to accomplish that when this type of nonsense still persist?
I'm pretty sure that it was really his parents Louis, and Mary..
And I believe they were correct.
thturd - I agree that people should be allowed to legally spend their money as they see fit. I also agree that people should be concerned with the furthering of their children's educations. However, if there are public funds being used for race, sex, ethnicity, sexual preference, etc purposes I object on grounds of discrimination.
My point about wanting special recognition goes to the point of specifically identifying certain groups for protections, permissions, allowances, etc to be considered as equals.
thturd, you're suspended for a week for violating #1 of the Code of Honor - repeatedly.
Yes he did the right thing based on the rules. But could you imagine what would happen if there was a scholarship offered where the requirement was that the winner had to be White? Rev Al would be protesting in front of the graduation.
There are such scholarships. There are scholarships designated for only Italian Americans, Irish Americans, Norwegian, etc., etc., etc. Just because there isn't a story about them here does not mean they don't exist. This scholarship is no different.
Congratulations to Jeffery for doing the right thing and to his teachers and parents for being good role models.
jennj - is there really scholarships being offered only to "white" people? I would be surprised. To clarify you can be black and be Italian american or Irish american or Norwegian American.
Kid did the right thing but the group shouldn't have taken the $ back.
Jennj
It is very true that there are scholarships specified to certain races out there. There are some odd ball ones out there too. I came across some 10 years ago when I was applying for a few that were pretty specific on deeds, race, co-curricular activities, etc. Some had me laughing, but since they were privately paid scholarships those giving them away were well within their right as long as it wasn't anything harmful to those applying for the scholarships.
Want to start a scholarship for rednecks only? Go ahead.
Roger Williams University chapter of the College Republicans (RWUCR) advertised
a $50 whites-only scholarship.
Every now and again someone puts out a white only scholarship. Anyone can offer a scholarship to any select group they want to. When do we all learn to check the box for race marked other and write in "human".
MommaRose.
Correct. You can award a scholarship to anyone, even race based. It IS legal; however, if you DO award based on race, ....a) if it's based on being black, that's affirmative action; if it's based on being white, it's racist.
The interesting thing is, in an hour or so, you'll see responses to this post, calling me "racist". They wont say I'm wrong, just that I'm a racist. And a scholarship only for blacks is not racist. Kinda makes you wonder what the definition of racist IS.
OK people do some research and STAY AWAY from using Wikipedia as factual source of information. Now for those of you that are quoting/using wikipedia as you source try reading the first sentence in the wiki article:
Even wiki states it's a parody. Now go to here:
http://law.rwu.edu/search/google/rwu?query=scholarships&cx=000335253668703475869%3A5d_yrzsb5oo&cof=FORID%3A11&sitesearch=&submit.x=0&submit.y=0
and look at all of the other scholarships.
Shss! People are just trying to say is if there is a white only scholarship, it would be viewed as racist. In fact google:
Roger Williams University chapter of the College Republicans (RWUCR)
and see how much adversity/confilct that $50.00 (Yes fifty dollar) scholarship caused. This just backs up what people are saying about how a white only scholarship would be viewed.
When are black people going to get over the fact that their ancestors who survived being abducted and transported to the colonies to build the foundation of American wealth are long dead?
And when will these uppity blacks get over the fact that white murderers of blacks were never convicted of ac ricme till the 1960s?
When are these thugs going to get over the fact that the American public school system has failed young blacks?
I know there are a lot of ignorant people who read these postings... I am being sarcastic.
Racism still goes on in the USA, everyday. Just look at how many people admit in polls that they would never vote for a black person. Look at how many say that Obama was born in Kenya and is a Muslim. A member of congress called the President a tar baby. Another said Obama is uppity. There IS NOT a level playing field in the USA when in comes to education and economic opportunity. Many white folks are happy about that. Efforts to assist those in a class that have been kept down through overt and hidden institutional racism are noble.
For every example of "reverse discrimination," there are thousands of instances of black folks getting screwed over. One glaring example is the number of arrests, convictions, and incarcerations of blacks and latinos for drug possesion. Although more whites use illegal drugs, the vast majority of people in the criminal injustice system are people of color.
Time to get real - who is willing to admit that all things being equal on paper, you'd hire a white over a black? There are numerous contemporary studies proving that racial prejudice goes on every day in decision making, even by white liberals like me.
I do not believe in race but for black student and not for white studend I believe that is called discrimination,I do not believe that MLK would approve of that and why would the state approve of such.
how about if the revs jesse and al gave this boy a scholorship themselve? that would be a hoot. sometimes doing the white, i mean right thing doesnt pay
Jennj-
You are the third person who has posted that Italian American, Jewish American, etc. are for whites only. These are ethnic scholarships and the only requirements (usually) is that one of your parents be of that ethnicity. My ex-boyfriend was Italian American. He was also black. The two are not exclusive.
From the comments posted about these ethnic scholarships it would appear that people are advocating that we should ignore one half of the child's background if one parent is black. I find that alarming as a child should be encouraged to explore the full history of their family and be proud of both sides whether they are black, mixed, or whatever.
Also, despite the fact that my ex was black he was very firm that he was not African-American. He was Italian/Jamaican American. In other words he could of gotten two different ethnic scholarships. I myself could get at least three different ethnic scholarships because I, like many other Americans, am a mutt and proud of all parts of my ethnic background.
For another user who asked why people look at a mixed child and call them black it is because in many cases it is just hard to tell if someone is mixed and it can be offensive to some people to guess wrong.
There are many scholarships out there for our youth. Many people don't deserve a scholarship. But you are right. I've never heard of a whites only scholarship. Interesting post.
Maybe when morons stop using words like "uppity."
thturd
All of the scholarships you mentioned are based on nationality not race. There are black Jewish, Italian, German, Irish, etc. They are all eligebal for these scholarships. Name one of these that states they are for whites only.
I feel that Dr. King would have wanted him to keep it if he had earned it. His skin color has nothing to do with anything.
Sadly, we do not yet live in the world Dr. King dreamed of. It was a very nice gesture on his part.
Warren? Hmm. Evidently not related to the other Warren, the 'Native American.' Kudoes to this young man for being honest, unlike the other 'Warren,' the one running for Senate.
I could easily afford to offer a $1,000.00 scholorship check to a needy student. I would be demonized if I stated it could only go to a white student. I woulod never do such a thing but it sure makes you wonder what the hell is going on in this country today. I applaud this young man for his generosity (he did not have to return it) and I am ashamed of the MLK senoir citizens for their racism.
From the sounds of it, the group had the right to select one race for this award. It's sad that they felt that the need was there to select one race for the award.
Obamacratic, scholarships are very specific. Go to the library and check out a book of scholarships and you will find scholarships with things like grandfather worked on railroad, Think Duck Calling, Duct Tape Prom Dress, etc. Black colleges and universities offer scholarship for white students.
ShakingMyHear61: Why do you call it Obamacratic? This has been going on for decades. Long before Obama came to office. Do yourself and the rest of us a favor and de-politicalize yourself. Barack Obama is not the cause of EVERYTHING. Sheesh.
Mygirl: Elizabeth Warren has already presented documentation stating that she has Native American in her heritage. I guess they don't report that on Faux News, though.
Debnran, I was responding to Obamacratic post.
Patty, agreed. I can't believe that people are still going on about Elizabeth Warren. Some people, I don't care if you can transport them back in time to an incident, will never believe anything different from what they WANT to believe. Sad.
Some people, I don't care if you can transport them back in time to an incident, will never believe anything different from what they WANT to believe. Sad.
Speaking for yourself, Shaking? You want to believe Elizabeth Warren deserved to use her 1/32 or 1/64 (or whatever she finally admited to) Native American blood to qualify for benefits reserved for real Native Americans, but you must know deep down she didn't deserve it. Sad.
I am minority and I think he should have kept it. I think that scholarships should be given for specific circumstance not race. I was raised in a poor neighborhood and there were white children there with me too. Do they not get a scholarship because they were white? If he is lower middleclass or poor he deserves the scholarship before a rich black kid does. I understand that these scholarships to minorities are to even the playing field but lets help our poor white brothers and sisters too. They are discriminated against and called 'white trash' because they are poor, dont dress a certain way, listen to hip hop or embrace black culture.
Ummm, Warren hasn't produced anything, but go ahead and believe whatever makes you happy. If she has indeed produced proof of her native american heritage, feel free to post the links.
Hey Patty,
I figured upon reading your post that Warren must've recently presented some sort of genealogical proof, or at least a family member's recounting of what Granny said once upon a time. So I went to looking. Maybe Fox news is full of partisan hacks doing all they can to keep Americans conflicted and ignorant after all? Yet I can find exactly nothing which supports your claim. Ms. Warren just the other day admitted there was no proof since her father's family way back when was racist and didn't want Ms. Warren's mother consorting with her father if in fact she was part Injun.
You know...I have no dog in the senatorial fight in Massachussetts, but it seems to me that Ms. Warren has low character. Not only does she present a concoction of a story in order to burnish her professorial credentials at Harvard, but then when found out she throws paternal Grandma and Grandpa under the racism bus, rather than just cop to it and ask for forgiveness. See, she could be part whatever she claims, but there is no proof of such, and as a lawyer, and one who wants to make more laws for you and me to obey, it seems to me she should be more precise and less inclined to throw her ancestors under the bus.
Maybe who she was, or pretended she was, doesn't matter to you. After all, we have had so many scoundrels in the Senate anyhow. But given the state of our nation today I don't think it should be our purpose to intentionally add more scoundrels to the chamber in the hopes we might one day be pleasantly surprised that they aren't as bad as we presently know them to be. But you go on supporting her if you want.
Patty Birkhimer - Even the Huffington Post is reporting she hasn't provided any documentation. Do you have a link to article showing her proof?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/elizabeth-warren-native-american-heritage_n_1558838.html
i had no idea we were still placing the race card! the black senior services should be ashamed to keep this 'black,oops african american only, IF ALL THESE PROUD BLACKs ARE JUST THAT WHY THE HELL ARE EVERYONE OF THE BLACKS WOMEN/CHILDRENS [GIRLS] WEARING WIGS TO COVER UP THEIR HERITAGE? WHY,THEM WEARING WIGS , I THINK ALL BLACKS ARE ASHAMED TO BE THAT,BLACKS,AFRO-AMERICAN SO FOURTH.BE WHAT THE ALMIGHTY GAVE YOU.
Not only are there whites only scholarships, there is even at least one white MALE only scholarship.
There are lots of whites who feel the races should be segregated. There are lots of blacks who feel the same way. Just more proof that the only real requirement to be a racist is to be human first.
Way to keep racism alive!
Evidently, you or anyone you know have never applied for scholarships. There are hundreds of thousands of scholarships that have wacky requirements. There are scholarships for whites, blacks, jews, etc. It has nothing to do with racism. There are scholarships if you are deaf in one ear; if you have parents, grandparents belonging/belonged to certain organizations.
It would be great if people would educate themselves about such things before getting on the internet and spouting their inane opinions. High school are aware of how scholarships work.
Google scholarships and you will see that there are some covering everybody and every situation.
It would be interesting to see a white only scholarship awarded to a white only student, in a racially mixed schoo,l at an event. I have never seen this happen.....so please provide me an example so we can educate ourselves before getting on the internet and spouting off. I personally think the MLK missed a great opportunity. The best person did not get the award. Reverse discrimination....or am I just spouting off????
Second example:
Third example: (Like I said before this is NOT a big deal.)
ShakingMyHead61 - you can't argue with crazy. Facts don't matter to them. The people on this thread complaining and also saying some pretty racist stuff along the way will never get it. Any chance they have to complain about someone of color, they will jump on it and then try to play the victim. It is quite apparent that they have a lot of hatred in their hearts and there is nothing we can do about it. Our best bet is to hit the (!) to the right and ignore the author.
Mad1 I think you forget that the reasons behind "minority" scholarships is because there is/was so few options before.
I could care less, if you wanna give it to only whites, blacks, latins, gays, straights, girls or boys as long as those who want the higher education have a chance to receive it.
I applaud this young man for returning it but I wish he didn't return it... he obviously earned it based on things other than the color of his skin.
I agree he deserves this recognition, he's an honest young man and I hope he goes far in life. My stuggle is with those who chose to accept that money back. Error for the color of his skin, but justifiably earned based on his own merit. To me, it's like they took candy from a baby. To the donors of the scholorship, what message are you sending here?
Wow.. Why is it OK to have a scholarship that is intended for a black person only. Dare a white man say "no man of color can receive this scholarship" you bet your a$$ that Sharpton would be screaming like the girl he is... I am so sick of the race card from the African American people...Such bullsh*t...
Its okay, this was a private scholarship. Kind of like getting a scholarship based on athletic performance, it can go wherever it is designated.
Its Okay? ....and this is exactly why racism is alive and well in our society. Again, lets make a scholarship that a man of color cannot receive and I dont think it would be "Okay"...
I have to agree with GG-1470773 It we had a white scholarship it would be racist . I am also sick of the discrimination against white people now a days . They better wake up
Its okay because it is the ladies putting forth the effort to reward their race. Its kind of like when our local DAR rewards scholarships to young girls, but instead of race it is gender. On the other hand, I don't know any organization who would specify white, so I guess you have a point.
As I stated above, there are scholarships for white people only. There are also scholarships for Asian Americans, left-handed people, smart people, accordion players, tennis players, knitters, etc.
Private scholarships may discriminate as they please. Specifying African-American is not enough: a person of any race may be born in Africa or of parents born in Africa. On a long enough timeline, even more are African-American. The scholarship should simply state : Only applicants with dark brown skin with Afro hair may apply.
There are scholarships for girls only, hispanics only, native americans only, immigrants only, orphans only, adopted children only, children of our men and women in uniform only, and, yes, blacks only. It is a PRIVATE, (meaning individuals spending their own money), initiative to make our universities and colleges more diverse which enhances the learning environment for all. Traditionally, white men have had a huge advantage when it comes to higher education. For near a centry in this country, white men were the ONLY ones allowed to attend a university. It's not a good thing or a bad thing, its just a fact about our history. Today, there are those who wish to make a college education accessible to those who have been disadvantaged in the past. Many of the people who these scholarships are designed for are the first people in their families to go to college. That is a GOOD thing. It means less kids on the streets selling drugs, and more kids starting businesses after graduation. It means less girls getting pregnant and relying on the system. It means more creative talent able to compete with places like China. So set aside your "its not fair to white people" complaints and try to see the bigger picture. Besides, most scholarships that exist go to white people anyway because white people still make up the majority of college attendees. So calm down. Seriously.
"...screaming like the girl he is." It's not just your racism that's showing. It wouldn't surprise me if the KKK had scholarships too, you know.
The funny thing is that through out the history of Africans in the US, there have been many pass as white, and even more with mixed white heritage. It is VERY possible for a white-appearing person to be eligible for an African-American scholarship.
Poorgirl, I understand your points but wouldn't have made more sense for the scholarship to go to a disadvantaged student rather than one who is simply "african-american". If the student was from the bloodline of those who ran south africa under appartied would they still have been against him winning it? If he had the best resume that means that he earned that scholarship. Black white or green.
Most black colleges/universities have scholarships for white students. Is this wrong too? Scholarships are based on many factors and everyone do not meet all the criteria. Only the ignorant will be making a big deal about this. If you know a college-bound student, ask them about scholarships.
Are you from the all white country club? i can't seem to get in...i'm black and asian. no my name isn't tiger.
@GG
Evidently, you or anyone you know have never applied for scholarships. There are hundreds of thousands of scholarships that have wacky requirements. There are scholarships for whites, blacks, jews, etc. It has nothing to do with racism. There are scholarships if you are deaf in one ear; if yoMaybeu have parents, grandparents belonging/belonged to certain organizations.
It would be great if people would educate themselves about such things before getting on the internet and spouting their inane opinions. High school are aware of how scholarships work.
Maybe you should have read the post just before yours
Stop talking through your arse, hypocrite! There are scholarships from Sons of Confederate Veterans, United Daughters of the Confederacy, and guess if any black person would ever get any of that. There are also schlarships from, wink, wink, "Good ol' boy" networks, if your last name isn't Irish, or Italian, or what-not, don't bother applying. There are private clubs that give out scholarships, they all have their criteria, many implicitly for a specific race, even gender, many non-minority. So this is just one attempt at giving a break to one of their own, that's all, a leg up to level the playing field. People like you spout nonsense that bear no relation to the facts and truth, just what you want to see, jackass.
@ GG
I agree with that you said.
The article states: "The scholarship application itself stated only that African-Americans were “encouraged” to apply. Warren applied online and apparently never saw a separate letter sent to school counselors specifying that it was for black students."
Now look closely at the wording. It's worded so that it doesn't come across as totally racist. However, while they say "encouraged", what they seemingly mean is "only African-American" need apply.
On a side note, not all people from Africa are black. I work with a few white as snow people who are from South Africa. So would they be discriminated against because of their skin colour despite being technically "African"?
I too am sick of all this racist BS! Jobs and awards should be based on merit, not on skin colour, race or gender.
The fact that this young man applied and won, means he is worthy of the award. His skin colour shouldn't disqualify him from something he achieved.
He did earn it, I don't think anyone is prepared to argue against that. And, if he had decided to keep the money, I think that would have been 100% within his right. But I personally think he did the right thing because at the end of the day, the African American community suffers a quite a big from lack of education and lack of opportunity. I do not know the circumstances of the runner up, but she is a black woman and I hope she puts this scholarship to good use to help not only herself, but her family and community. A college education can change so many lives, and this young man made a choice, that a scholarship designed to enhance diversity, should do just that. And for that, I applaud him.
The problem is not money for education, but now 80% of black women have their children as single mothers. Without a male father figure there is no "family" and the family and male model comes from joining a gang. We have been throwing money at this for 50 years now, since Lyndon Johnson started the Great Society in 1962 and it has been a miserable failure, costing taxpayers tens of billions of dollars and in CA having 50% of blacks and 50% of Hispanics dropping out of high school.
The family is the answer, but we continue to provide incentives to have children outside of marriage by giving welfare, food stamps, child credits, free health care, subsidized housing, etc. We have destroyed millions of people by handing them money and not letting them develop their talents and raise their children in families.
When I spend my own money, and I want it to go to left-handed lesbians with partial paralysis and dyslexia, that's my business, and everyone else can suck it.
If the Sons of the KKK want to create a scholarship for racist white people, let them. If the daughters of Martin Luther King want to create a scholarship to advance black people, let them.
This is such a ludicrous thing to whine about.
Derek,
IMO your post was fine until you ruined it with your own racism.
So if a scholarship is created by the KKK (with whom I don't agree with, just fyi), that said scholarship is going to racist white people. How do you know that the person receiving said scholarship is racist? How do we know that the MLK scholarship isn't going to a racist black person?
I really am sick and tired of both sides....and I am REALLY sick and tired of this "reverse racism". People People People....racism is racism...PERIOD! Get over your skin color (white, black, indian, asian, native american, etc) and live as people. Excel in life and leave behind your hatred!
PoorGirl54 wrote "So set aside your "its not fair to white people" complaints and try to see the bigger picture. "
The bigger picture is that MORE"whites" in America come from economically-disadvantaged backgrounds as "colored people" and deserve similar scholarships.
But overall, the returns small investment ifor higher education n a child with an involved mother and father will exceed a similar investment in a person raised by a single mother.
David that is exactly my point, could you imagine a scholarship that expressly prohibited the types of people you just mentioned?
Good for him. However I wonder how it would play if we had " white" only scholarships. For all the people who like to pull the race card here is a perfect opportunity to put your money where your mouth is.
You may want to do a search on scholarships. There are a lot out there that are designated to specific races, white people included stating for Irish Heritage, German Heritage, etc. There is a reason why the variety of scholarships has never really been in debate when it's a PRIVATE funder giving the money to people. You may laugh at some of the requirements for some of those listed. They can be quite silly, but they are legit.
I just don't know why we segregate any money, seems if it was reversed, which couldn't happen since it would be racist to have a white's only scholarship, then Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would be having a protest out there. I'd rather see all scholarships be given on student performance no matter who is giving it, and stop lowering our scholastic standards in the U.S. In stead let's get the students to reach and surpass the bar like they do in other countries instead of letting them Limbo under it. How low can they go? Very sad.
Many groups give scholarships based on specific criteria determined by the group. Groups like FFA and the Granges want their money to go to people who are going into agriculture, whicle other groups like Sons of Italy or DAR want their money to go to people within the criteria that would be able to join their organizations. Many times, they get donations solely because it's going to someone who could be in their ranks - who may join or be a child of a member. It's not because they don't want other people to use their money, but that they want a child with the same background to have an opportunity. My personal dislike is scholarships SOLELY for high school seniors. People who may decide to go to college AFTER they graduate who didn't think they would when they graduated are limited in the scholarships they can get. Over 50% of scholarships are limited to High School Seniors.
Everyone keeps missing the important part of the "race and scholarship" argument: "Organizations using private money, like the MLK seniors club, are allowed to set their own eligibility criteria for scholarships they grant."
This is a private organization, the same way the NAACP is a private organization and StormFront is a private organization. In America, a private organization can generally do whatever they please so long as they are not going around causing direct harm to someone else. I guarantee you there are plenty of scholarships people of minority descent are never considered for, you just never hear about them.
BUT, at the end of the day, the MLK Senior Citizens is a private group that collect money for their own ambitions. One of those ambitions is sending historically under-advantaged black youth to school. That's their money, and that's their decision. The same way McDonald's can generally do whatever they want with their money.
This isn't a federal scholarship using your tax dollars. You really have no say in where this money goes. Just give props to a seventeen year old that looked at the rules, said "I'm sorry, I don't qualify" and returned the prize money. Would you have the sense of character to do the same? That's the question you really should be asking, not "What would Al Sharpton Do?" We don't need any WWASD rubber bands.
The thing that gets me.. not that is a private group but its the MLK group..
A group founded on the principals of MLK.. ya know the entire not judging someone based off the color of their skin. Doing exactly what MLK preached against.
The name is MLK Senior Citizens - it's the same as if it was McDonald's Senior Citizens or Golden Years Senior Citizens. Many things take the name of MLK, but they don't always observe the same ideals. It just happened that this is a group of African American senior citizens who want to help an African American student go to college. For all you know the name could be there because they meet in a building called Martin Luther King Senior Citizens Home.
Adam they have all missed the point, I totally agree with you. Why don't they do their research, there are scholarships for American Indians, Irish Americans etc. Kudos to that young man and his family, if they had no problem returning the scholarship why are all these persons making a fuss. The family was very comfortable returing the scholarship, so people stop making a mountain out of a molehill.
Universities would not accept "white only" scholarships because of the backlash. Jesse Jackson and his troop of 1,000 deadbeats and professional demonstrators would be there in a week.
A few years ago I looked at available scholarships for new students at a major west coast University. More than 90% of the scholarships were for blacks and hispanics. There were few based on merit and not many for children of middle class people, who are hard working and accomplished, and need the money. But unfortunately in the post Lyndon Johnson America almost everything goes to blacks and that's why Obama increased Pell grants, since many of those are used to fund For-Profit schools, like University of Phoenix, that will accept anyone, no matter how low SAT scores they have, in order to get the US taxpayer Pell grant money. In a study last year, only 8% of U of Phoenix's students actually graduate with a degree. Just more scams.
Jerry: either you're lying or you didn't look very hard. The vast majority of scholarships have no racial requirement and are not for minorities. They generally have association requirements (like VFW membership or Parents who interned for the American Dental Association between 1972 and 1975), community goals (To advocate civic engagement or community advancement) or are for specific fields of study (Computer Science with a focus in artificial intelligence). Look again.
They should have had a question about race or minority status on the application. It seems that when they said minorities are encouraged to apply when it should have said that only minorities need to apply.
The Boy Scouts are a private organization, but you don't see liberals saying that it's OK for them to discriminate against gays because they are private.
Don't even look at race. Look at sex. How many male-specific scholarships exist compared to those for women? With women collecting 60% of the Bachelors degress, a male-specific educational crisis has been created by female-oriented college recruiting and financial aid.
I applaud the young man for returning the money, however, I would have been more impressed if the MLK group had said "no, we want you to have it." The fact that they took the money back from the most qualified student that they picked sight unseen and gave it to the runner up because they wanted to give it to a black student is wrong. Of course they can do whatever they want with their money but if the races had been reversed there would be hell to pay.
Does this country have any White Schlorship funds??? Probably not......because the Blacks would be screaming prejudice....yet when they do it it's just fine and dandy.
Look up private scholarships for Irish, German, Dutch, French, Scottish heritage scholarships. They do exist.
Yes.
Yes, they do. For those with German Heritage, or those who are catholic, or lutheran, or French or Russian. The list is literally endless because these scholarships are PRIVATE. Not public. The government has no ability or right to tell you, me, or anyone, that we can't spend our own money to send someone of our same heritage to college....We can do it. It's called freedom.
I could make a $200 scholarship available to anyone, but they are required to resemble a chipmunk and have brown eyes. Because I'm a private provider, these requirements are okay and would not be considered discrimination towards those people who don't look like chipmunks.
There is a big of a discrepancy there though State of Awareness. There are people who are German, Dutch, Irish, etc, with different skin colours. Heck, doesn't Obama have some claim to being Irish?
The scholarship this article is about... If it says "of African descent," that's not so bad - there are white Africans as well. Heck, go to South Africa, and you'll see hordes of white people who have generations of history there. If it literally is "people with black skin," I don't see how you could paint it as anything but racist. It's their money, but the KKK and Stormfront have their own money too and spend it as they see fit - we just demonize them for it. If we want to be consistent and this scholarship is literally "black/very dark brown skin only," we should demonize this society as well.
Oh, and, there ARE white male only scholarships. Not many of them though, and they're looked at as controversial.
What, a scholarship for Blacks only, isn't that racism? Oh, excuse me, it is only "whites" that are racists, my mistake! Whites are the only color banned from having a color based scholarship or anything else.
Congratulations to this honorable young fellow.
Do they have any White Scholarship Funds in America??? I highly doubt it as the Blacks would be screaming prejudice and lawsuits would be appearing all over the place......yet it's okay for the Blacks to have Black Schlorship Funds. Something not fair and right in America......my white son faces more hurdles to get into college because he's more predjudiced against being a white, male, than any other race in America now. He has the hardest time get financaial aid and schlorships out of any race in America.......thus we should have White Schlorship Funds too.
Um, yes. There are a few.
A number of years ago I looked at available scholarships for undergraduates at a major University. More than 90% of the scholarships were for blacks and hispanics. There were few based on merit and not many for children of middle class people, who are hard working and accomplished, and need the money. But unfortunately in the post Lyndon Johnson America almost everything goes to blacks and that's why Obama increased Pell grants, since many of those are used to fund For-Profit schools, like University of Phoenix, that will accept anyone, no matter how low SAT scores they have, in order to get the US taxpayer Pell grant money. In a study last year, only 8% of U of Phoenix's students actually graduate with a degree. Just more scams.
You are a racist.
Please do not confuse yourself with facts, just continue with your racism.
Is there a problem with a White Scholarship Fund? How about a male scholarship fund?
Working class whites have been historically discriminated against and disadvantaged too. Where's our scholarship? The Irish have had a history in our country of being discriminated against as well. Where's our scholarship? The idea that the history of African Americans, shameful as it is, entitles them to anything that other oppressed groups of a lighter color aren't entitled to is faulty. Yet still there would be general uproar among the black community if such entitlements would be offered, because that segment of the black community is just as narrow-minded and self-interested as that segment of the white community that these policies were and are designed to compensate for; and you can add to that, that the segment of the black community is also hypocritical. Either all oppressed groups are entitled, or none are.
Lol.... its called, apply for any other of the millions of scholarships that have no race/gender/ethnicity requirements...like 85% of the scholarships that exist. Or you could get good grades, or become an artist, or volunteer. Or, even better, get a job and pay for your college on your own.
(1.) You left out class. When you take into account class requirements, that 85% number that you pulled out of thin air falls very sharply. So do the other things.
Also, as if becoming an artist, having the time to volunteer and getting a job that pays enough to pay for college are possibilities for everyone, or even the majority of people, out there.
(2.) All of what you said misses the point of my comment, because it could all just as easily apply to African Americans as it could to anyone else.
LOL! Go to google and type in 'irish heritage college scholarships' before you go ranting around saying there are no scholarships for white, working class, people!
There are scholarships for whites; however, it is more for heritage than the color of the skin. Irish scholarshops (white people) however, German, Russian, etc need not apply. These scholarships are for heritage more so than color of skin.
Not every white is Irish, jerk.
There are many private scholarships available where specific criteria is required for applicants from if you are a member of the Methodist Church to if your father works at GM to if you are the child of librarian to if you are the child of someone who is a member of a union. This young man indicated that he did not read everything and did not know; this is probably true. When young folks are looking at the websites, there are hundreds of small scholarships ranging from $250 for books to $1000 or so. In trying to meet deadlines, kids are just applying like crazy, hoping to get enough small scholarships to put a dent into covering their college costs. Seeing that his father is a teacher explains a lot, he may not get too much financial assistance. This sounds exactly the situation my son was in as he applied for a great many small scholarships, as his father and I were educators making it impossible for him to receive financial aid. Some may think that we would have enough money to have paid all of his tuition and fees, but the truth is that I am still paying off my loans from college and my son has graduated from college himself.
I commend the noble gesture of this wonderful young man. I wish him much success and if I had the money I would certainly send him some funds to help him. He did not seem bitter at all because of this situation and I can see that his parents have raised a great young man. Congratulations to the family! May God bless you all!
This is so sad. I actually saw a post here where some uninformed soul said there were white only scholarships or scholarships that minorities are not considered for, we just never hear about it.
You (today at 5:26pm) nitwit, will take and take until there is nothing left. I hope that when the day comes where whites are no longer a majority in this great nation, people like you will remember the sacrifices some of us made to even things out a bit.
I pray that those of you who walk around feeling guilty because of injustices done over 100 years ago don't find out someday that when the scales tilt, the new majority has the same compassion for you. From what I see, there is very little about looking to be equal, its about getting an upperhand, watch any Spike Lee movie or listent to an Al or Jesse speech and you can figure that out quickly.
Good luck, I will have left this mess by then.
Note the difference in instructions that the article reported.
1) The website says applicants are "encouraged" to be african-american. So that says he was right in applying for the scholarship.
2) The information the MLK organization provided to guidance counselors says "Blacks only".
So the MLK organization caused the confusion themselves by attempting to be Politically Correct in what they put on their website.
But what if you are just a light shade of brown, or just deeply tanned?
He was probably afraid that if he kept the money, protesters who look like obama's sons would be demanding that he return it.
Sounds like a great kid. But he should have applied to the United Whiteboy College Fund. Then he could have kept the money.
Way to go, young man! You are truly, a shining light of hope for the future of this country.
Of course, private organizations like this one have the right to designate where they want their scholarships to go. I would never, ever, fight to take that right away from them. The fact that they chose, after they made the "mistake" of not screening their candidates adequately, to exercise that right, is the true shame.
theres no need to bring sharpton or jackson into this...just applaud the young man for doing what he thought was right and MOVE ON! You are the ones bringing the race card to the table...
Just goes to prove the double standards of racial equality.... Can you imagine how the media would spin this if a student received a scholarship for being white? I am sick of these BLACK/WHITE/ BROWN/ YELLOW/ RED classifications!
Uh...you may want to update yourself on what scholarships are available. There are numerous out there for white people only where they are asking for specific heritages like Irish, German, French, Dutch, etc. It's true that race specific scholarships do cause issues, but only when people don't really do the research on what is available to students today when compared to 20 years ago. When I was applying for scholarships 10 years ago, there were plenty that covered all spectrums from being race specific to disability students to any co-curricular activity one was participating in.
State, as I pointed out earlier, there are black, yellow, and brown people who are German/Dutch/French/etc. Sure their ancestors may have been from somewhere else way back, but if we follow that reasoning, not a soul other than the First Nations could refer to themselves as Americans. There are also white people who are African - see, South Africa. The question is, is this scholarship for Africans, or is it for people with black skin?
I wasn't aware that there were special funds set aside for black students. If this were funds meant for white students only, there would be a cry out toward racism. Equality was fought for, yet equality is not the result!
Races don't want equality they want to be one up on "whitey". Ridiculous. Do you think an African American would have returned a college scholarship intended for a white kid? Oh that's right we are not allowed to have scholarships or schools only for whites. That would be racist.
There are no schools only for Blacks. If you are referring to Historically Black Universities, white students are allowed to attend them. True these universities are predominately black but isn't Harvard, Yale, or Cornell predominately white? I graduated from high school with a 3.5 GPA and didn't get into USC. However, a white classmate of mine got in with a 2.3 GPA because his father and grandfather went there. What do you call that? Every one wants to say that it is racist to have scholarships geared towards a certain race yet you do not want to ask yourself why they exist. They exist because there was a time in history, I'm sure you have conviently forgotten about this time, when blacks were not allowed to go to school. What were we suppose to do? Not educate ourselves, create our own colleges? So now that there is some what equality in education we should tear down all Historically Black Colleges? For those that are complaining probably haven't amounted to anything in life so they are looking for a scapegoat to blame for their inabilities to achieve in life.
ndfan wrote "True these universities are predominately black but isn't Harvard, Yale, or Cornell predominately white?"
Since "whites" are the majority of the population, we should not be surprised that these universities are populated by students with less melanin in their skin.
it's great to see a young man with such integrity. i hope others learn from this. reminds me of the movie soul man.
The way I see it more people win because of this. The young lady who ended up with the scholarship and this young man because people came forward to reward him for doing the right thing.
I like this story. Kudos to Jeffrey Warren. Doing the right thing feels really good.
how is this the right thing? Obviously Jeff was a better candidate and bowing to the lesser gifted child damages us all.
If you had to pick a good doctor or a great doctor for your child, who would you choose?
Why reward the lesser person and hinder the more gifted person?
BTW, ignore the color, which is what we all should be doing anyway.
He should've kept the money & run!