Why is there no such thing as an anglo college scholarship. What a racist country we live in. White people sacrificed their lives to give minorities the same freedoms and liberties as whites and look at what we get. The same kinds of racist discriminatory oppression that they had, minus the whippings of course.

I read somewhere years ago that there are no black Americans who are descendants of slaves who do not have white blood in them. So yeah, you're pretty much right.

BTW-any job application that asks you your age, race, ethnicity or religion is in violation of US employment and discrimination laws.

It's asked on the voluntary EEO form...

BillJ, you are just wrong in your thinking. You are referring to historical black colleges/universities. They are not closed to any race. It is getting white students to go to these colleges. Take Alabama State University (Montgomery, Alabama) for instant. They started an active recruitment program to to entice white students which included offering 'white only' scholarships. Tennessee State University (Nashville, Tennessee) did the same thing. No matter what the white student population, people still have a view that these colleges are all black schools. It is more of preception than actuality in most cases.

Shaking, this is my third time posting this... There are black Germans, Dutch, Italians, etc etc etc. There are also white Africans - just got to South Africa. The question is, is this scholarship for African Americans, or is it for people with black/dark brown skin? A person who has family heritage in Germany can get a German only scholarship even if their skin is black... Could a white South African get this scholarship?

But, you're also right. There are white only scholarships - just google it. You'll immediately find articles on them being controversial. The double standard, if there is one, is that black/hispanic/etc scholarships constantly go under the radar on the controversial front.

There are plenty of exclusive scholarships available to ethnic backgrounds that would likely fall under your definition of "Caucasian." The issue is that it is often-times easier for someone of more-immediate European decent to identify countries of ancestry [we are all a mix of the same ingredients, if you go back far enough, hence "more-immediate"]Is a German scholarship racist? [In your view, it seems it ought to be, so just be sure to apply your position across the board, or else abandon it as incorrect].

Fourth time pointing this out... There are black Germans. There are Germans with yellow skin. There are Germans with tan skin. There are also Africans with skin as white as snow. A German only scholarship doesn't discriminate against skin colour, it discriminates based on where you were born/grew up. Heck, look at you "Former Japan Resident" - I could assume you're Asian, but technically, you could have skin of any colour. If you're a white guy, and you grew up in Japan, speak Japanese, and are a Japanese citizen (rare, but it has happened), would you be eligible for scholarships for Japanese people only? You should be.

The question here is, could a white South African have won this scholarship and had the MLK organization say "Oh no, you keep it" - or are they literally discriminating based on race?

And again, for the fourth time, there are white only scholarships - just google it.

Right, but I've been trying to point out that the term "Black," as it is being used here, is allowing for individuals with a certain feature that creates a social-identity to do the same thing that another of the same sort of group does. I suppose I would have to clarify, in the case of "German," that would be more exclusive than the blanket term [e.g. "German ancestry back to 'X' point in time], but I think you get where I was going. My position allows a "white" only scholarship, but points out the social-circumstances that have made it unnecessary. In a sense, I am using false social-understandings as they've been used to define 'personhood' against themselves here, and am not personally taking the position that Germany, France, etc., are not nations of varying skin-colors. To answer your question: I suppose that it depends on the stated criteria of the scholarship [personally, I can 'be' whatever I want to be; so,in this case, it is more up to them than me.]

unfortunately, people continue to be judged by the color of their skin in this country and there are plenty of posts here and on the Riverside Press-Enterprise website to prove it.

I think the article was pretty clear in stating that the Senior Citizens Club had a hard time scraping up the money for these scholarships. As seniors, they are from an era where blacks were disadvantaged economically and in the school systems. Not much has really changed in that regard in most areas of this country. So for them to provide a scholarship to a black student in good academic standing is admirable. What most fail to realize is that there are thousands of scholarships available in this country for specific groups, i.e.-disabled students, girls only, specific colleges and universities only, for veterans only, for various races, ethnic groups and religious groups, for Kiwanis club members, etc. So none of those scholarships is discriminatory? Most of you "haters" really do see things in "black and white" and look for any excuse or reason to do so. You are so sad.

You effectively changed my opinion on this topic. He should have "claimed" he was black and kept the money.

Sure. However, remember that his definition of "Black" would have to match the criteria set forth by the committee, or they would have to make any necessary modifications to accommodate his eligibility. If he could not fit their proposed standards of "Black," he would have to apply for another exclusive scholarship that would accommodate his claimed identity. So then, there are no problems with my position on the matter, and yours seems fine as well. [my view: ethnicity, nationality (outside of the legal sphere), gender, etc. are all just claims of identity, and yours can be whatever you want it to be -- that does not mean that it will always match the views of those around you; so, you will always have to deal with differing viewpoints (i.e. people telling you what you "are" or "are not," which, to me, is neither here nor there)]. We are an interesting creature.]

So i guess that means a special fair queen scholarship needs to be considered?

The beauty of it is that you can do whatever you want with your private money. Dang it! I'm taller than 5'8"!

I could care less what private group gives to whoever they please but - German is not a color, and neither is being Jewish.

The German American Society, and numerous other groups, offer such a scholarship. I can agree with your achievement-based position as a 'best-case scenario'; but, unfortunately, the world has never been quite so objective. Things will change slowly, but we must try hard to understand what certain misfortunes may mean for one's opportunities -- personal responsibility must not be relaxed, based on such misfortunes, though.

Correction, the GAS does not state it as exclusive. My misreading of your proposition has created an inexcusable error. [My daughter has applied for German American scholarships like this one that have required her to claim German identity, but this was not one of them --she did not apply for this one.]

Depends on what you mean by "White." Plenty of scholarships available to those of more-immediate European-American background, including individuals who feel that they fall under the "White" category. No shops burning, no law breaking, just people getting "a break" based on claimed identities. It's not really race, it's 'ethnicity' (code for social-identity). It is much harder to identify nations-of-origin for those who have family backgrounds that entail slavery; so, the terms "Black" and "African American" are not as opposed to terms like "German" or "French" as they may initially seem [a "White" or "European American" scholarship could reasonably be created on the same grounds of logic].

So is the fact that the scholarship was meant for an African American student only. Have we been so programmed to take a back seat and blinded, that we cannot see a reversal of the very actions black folks have fought against, only to have the same thing done to the whites? That's change alright, but not one that affords all equal rights under the constitution. Just revenge played out and aimed at not equalizing but rather riding above.

You are delusional. You are a racist.

If you believed what you said about the article stating " African Americans were "encouraged" to apply, but white students could get the scholarship as well. Then when the boy returned it, why didn't they tell him he should or could keep it? Because they didn't want him to have it, that's why!

Yes, I agree - there should be equality and no special rights to a particular scholarship - in theory. But whites (especially white men) have had a 200+ year leg up on women, blacks and every other minority in this country. Scholarships and programs like this are designed to level that playing field and do some catching-up without having to wait another 200 years to get there.

So you would prefer that youth living now, grown in an age of "PC- Non-hate" education, pay for the mistakes of people dead for a hundred years, who may or may not have even be related to them?

Just to "level the playing field" ?

Reverse discrimination is precisely the thing that could/would hold us back for another "200 years" if we let it.

So I suppose you are saying that we should count the years that wrongs were done to make sure that revenge for the past actions of people, who are all pretty much dead now, equal the exact same amount of years to be ensured that (the playing field) as you put it, are caught up to the same number of days. You must be kidding! Like looking in a rear view mirror, you see what is behind you but if you continue to look in the back, you could loose sight of what is ahead and destroy the path you travel.

ReThink - no I didn't own slaves either and I have always been able to vote but until the same percentage of people in all ethnic and racial groups can lay claim to equal educational achievement, income equality, employment opportunity and health care, then the effects of racism and sexism remain, Yes, those of us who were able to assume some opportunity and privilege because of our ancestry do owe it to those who could not to "level the playing field." At the very least we should not complain when those groups create extra opportunities for their own communities.

There are tons of scholarships for national-origins that make up the class "White" as well. They are usually listed by "country-of-origin," though (e.g. "Swedish American Scholarship," etc.). There is nothing 'extra' going on here. Many communities offer exclusive scholarships to those they feel fit their criteria of belonging to the 'community.'

Japan, remember, there are black Germans and Dutchmen and Englishmen and white Africans and etc etc etc...

There are no black people with white skin. There are Germans with skin of all colours, just like there are Americans with skin of all colours.

luckyblueeyez, having lived and gone to high school in the same city as MLK High School, I can tell you that it is located in a predominantly middle/upper middle class area of Caucasians and Hispanics. There is a small segment of the school enrollment that comes from a disadvantaged area, mostly Black and first generation Hispanics. For a local civic group to provide a scholarship to a black student in good academic standing is admirable. I also know that there are local civic groups in Riverside that provide scholarships for Hispanics and girls. What, no outrage, about that?

Steve, there are albinos that may have the "white skin" characteristic, but I'm splitting hairs here.

Since anyone can sit where they want, there is no unfair treatment toward blacks anymore. I'd say there are special rights that protect them. Therefore there is no need for over and above what is considered equality. The days of Rosa Parks and unfair treatment no longer exist for blacks. Now it is shifting the other way around. These types of actions prove that it will be just a matter of time when whites will be considered second class citizens. Like a see-saw...when will the sides even out and the past will be left in the past? That is the only way anything will be truly equal.