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Subscribe to RSSThe man suspected of shooting six people near Auburn University surrendered to U.S. Marshals Tuesday. Auburn Police Chief Tommy Dawson updates the press on the latest developments in the case.
Updated at 10:54 p.m. ET: The man suspected of killing three people, including two former Auburn University football players, during a party Saturday night turned himself in Tuesday at a federal courthouse in Montgomery, Ala.
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Desmonte Leonard, 22, suspected in the shooting deaths of three people at a party Saturday night, turned himself into the federal courthouse on Tuesday evening.
Desmonte Leonard, 22, is suspected of shooting six people; he has been charged with three counts of capital murder.
Leonard arrived at the U.S. federal courthouse just before 8 p.m., walked through the courthouse doors and surrendered to U.S. Marshal Art Baylor, previously the Montgomery Police chief.
He is being held at Montgomery County jail.
He is being represented by Susan James, a defense lawyer in Montgomery, Ala., according to WSFA.com. She contacted U.S. Marshals to discuss the terms of her client’s surrender.
“I think he was just tired,” James told WSFA. “He wanted somebody to tell him what to do.”
She said the story of what happened Saturday night may be different than what most expect.
"I wanted to make sure they could get him into custody without someone trying to take him out," she said.
Saturday through Tuesday, police homed in on Montgomery, where Leonard lives. On Monday, they surrounded a house where they believed he was and piped in tear gas. Police said they heard coughing but ultimately did not find Leonard.
Police leave home after search for Auburn shootings suspect
Police did arrest two other men: Jeremy Thomas, 18, was questioned for hindering prosecution, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported, and Gabriel Thomas, 41, was arrested late Sunday for allegedly providing false information to police.
The shooting occurred before midnight on Saturday at the University Heights apartments, a large complex near campus favored by Auburn University's students and athletes. Leonard apparently fled in a white Chevrolet Caprice, which he later ditched.
When police arrived at the scene, Edward Christian, 20, was found dead on the sidewalk. Christian was a student and former offensive lineman for the Auburn Tigers football team.
Ladarious Phillips and DeMario Pitts, both 20, were transported to the hospital, where they later died. Phillips was a student and former backup fullback who gave up football in April, according to his coach. Pitts lived in Auburn.
Police Chief Tommy Dawson said at a news conference on Sunday that he believed the shooting was "a fight that obviously got out of hand."
The shooting has shaken Auburn, a city of 53,000 that revolves around the football team. The Auburn Tigers have won two national championships, most recently in 2011 against the University of Oregon. Cam Newton, a quarterback, won the coveted Heisman Trophy that year.
The Associated Press, Mark Stevenson and Marian Smith contributed to this report.
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If the cops heard coughing after sending in the tear gas, and perp wasn't there, who was doing the coughing? Just wondering....
When I 1st saw this guys picture, I thought they were doing the Trayvon thing some more. Then I looked again, what a 1st glance resemblance. No, they don't all look alike.
we can only hope young people will be influenced enough by this tragic story...not to repeat it...sad that stuff like this is on going daily...
My old neighborhood always had someone coughing out a window - usually right after a bong hit. Damn, that was a fun block, my current residence is zombieland.
College jocks are a strange bunch - and I'm thinking back to the mid 1970's, when the teams were two thirds White... something tells me thug life goes over well in the dorms.
Where is Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton?
I agree with this young mans lawyer, there will be a lot of story changing now. This fellow is guilty of self defense, he was assaulted and hit in the head with a beer bottle and was probably being attacked by the others that were shot. The last guy that died was on the sidewalk in front of the apartment, which would suggest that he was pursuing the shooter. The incident occured in the rear yard by the pool.
He shouldn't have been packin. Anger. Alcohol & Guns don't mix. GUILTY!
When I first heard what happened, I believed it was self-defense as well. However, most of the reports I've read say that he left the party, then came back, blocked the exit and began shooting. Now, self-defense or not, you don't just start shooting people in a crowded area as small as a walkway from the inside of the pool area. I believe he's been arrested for carrying a firearm illegally in the past, so what's the precedent if the weapon was unregistered?
@ RobertBarron, Leaving is self defense, coming back armed is revenge.
SURPRISE!! He's black.
Where are the baby pictures ?
Bill Weeler, If you were confronted by an intruder with a gun, who is going to kill you, and your family, wouldn't you want to defend yourself? Legally? This is not the cost of the second amendment, this is the cause of fools that do not believe that an armed, educated citizen is a better defense than a five-minute wait for the police can ever be. It's people like you that gave up thier guns to Hitler.
Holy S%$*@!!!! For the first 3 or 4 minutes all that guy did was thank and re-thank every single law enforcement agency in our whole country, along with it seemed every other person he knows or has ever met. WTF was he thinking? He must have written that speach prior to the man turning himself in. He must have wrote that expecting him to be caught rather than him turn himself in. I mean why else would he be thanking everybody? They didn't do a damn thing, so he should have by all rights thanked Desmonte first and formost for coming forward and doing their job for them, I mean the guy VOLUNTARILY turn himself in??? Why on earth did he do that? Don't get me wrong, I'm extremely glad he did and IMO he deserves nothing less than a bullet into the back of his head, but why did he do it, turn himself in? I mean cases like his where he has already been convicted in the eyes of the public and in no way shape or form stands a chance of getting off of or found not guilty of these charges. So why then did he turn himself in? I bet he's gonna regret doing that now everyday in prison for the rest of his life.
It will be interesting to hear the other side of this story. If Desmonte was the one with the gun that shot up the group at the party it seems obvious that he is guilty. But......our laws say that you are assumed not guilty until you are given a chance, in court or otherwise, to prove your innocence so it will be interesting to hear his side of the story. If he was not guilty then why did he flea the scene and hide? I will wait to comment further till I know "the rest of the story". Hopefully he will confess and straight talk and put an end to this tragedy and that Jesse, Al and others will stay away and let the police and justice system do their jobs according to our laws (not like the Trayvon case).
Why don't all you white racist pieces of @!$%# go over to the Sandusky and Casey posts? Worry about your child molesters and child murderers a little more and think of ways to eliminate those stains from your white culture.
Gotta love the townie scumbags that mooch off college parties, steal your sh!t, and then get in some stupid argument and shoot up the place.
Poor 1desperate, how bitter he is when he finds what he was seeking.
1desperate......it isn't just whites posting racist comments, it's on all sides of different cultures and races. These idiots hide behind their computer screens like the cowards they are and try to stir up emotions. Don't give them the satisfaction. They aren't worth it.
It's funny that the same people who think Zimmerman was right to start a fight then kill a kid because he bit off more than he could chew. Now think that this guy is wrong. just funny but not surprising.
Sandusky's the one who bit off more than he could chew....get it straight!!
This stuff isn't even news anymore. We love our guns...this is the cost of the 2nd Amendment. The carnage will continue, and it is no longer news.
Yah, we love our guns, but we don't shoot people with them. If a thug breaks into your home to steal, rape, or kill you or your daughter are you going to "please" take my money but leave us alone or will you try to hit him with a wrench?? Not me........he's getting a face full of lead. End of story have a nice funeral
@ Chipper I may not agree with you 100 percent but I like the fact you left race out of it. A thug is not just Black or Mexican. Anybody can be a thug. It seems no matter what we achieve, we are ALL judged by a few.
Esprit De Corps
I don't love my guns any more than I love my screwdrivers. It's just another tool. And I believe that the "cost" of the 2nd Amendment is much less than the cost of no 2nd Amendment.
Gman, stop being so politically correct. The fact is that most thugs out there today are black or hispanic. That's just reality. If you can't handle it, too bad.
bilweeler- still thinks if guns are illegal for all, nobody will have guns. He never had anyone break into his home and try any of the things Chipper in SD said and those of you giving bilkweeler votes haven't either or you would have a whole different attitude. I hope it never happens to any of you because you won't be prepared and if you think you can defeat a gun with a baseball bat---well, good luck.
Yeah edub just look at all the thugs on Wall Street and in Congress all of them are Black too no they are Hispanic.
Yep, I love my guns!
So does everyone else I know! Most of the kids I grew up with had them in their homes. I have 5. My friends have as many as a few dozen each. I think most of my coworkers own at least a handful of guns.
And y'know what, peaches?
Read the following slowly so you don't miss anything and just in case you do I'll repeat it, not a one of them has ever committed a crime with a gun.
Now here's the second time peaches and read along slowly with me:
Not a one of them has ever committed a crime with a gun.
Fostering delusional hatred and blame on inanimate objects rather than the individuals who commit the crimes is just swell, ain't it? So easy? Easier to sleep at night?
So ask Desmonte, and we'll wait right here while you do, if he's in the NRA, was a legal gun owner, and even knows what the Second Amendment even is.
Guns don't kill, humans do when they pull the trigger. If you take guns away from citizens, you have Syria where the government can mow you down.
we love our guns. Per the 2006 FBI figures, 29000 were killed by guns. Of those only about 100 were justifiable self defense.
1000 were justifable [olice shootings, most of which wouldnt happen if the bad guys didnt have guns
Bottom line - 290 killed for every life saved. A really lousy bargain
Same eyar in England where its almost impossible to get a concealable weapon
84 killed, population adjust 5 to 1, do the math , the USA has 55x the rate of gun deaths
But its a big profit biz for the gun dealers etc . Merchants of death
I don't think the guys on wall street rob, burglarize, or get in fights and shoot each other. Either way, the guy never said anything about race in his post. Seems like you have a social stigma, G-Man. Just because somebody likes the 2nd Amd. does not automatically make them a racist or a republican. Oh wait, now I'm doing the same thing you were doing.
Yah, we love our guns, but we don't shoot people with them. If a thug breaks into your home to steal, rape, or kill you or
been listening to this line and waiting for a news story where this happens and so far after many years the totalis way less than the other way around
So Stanley, since about 50,000 people were killed in automobile accidents last year in the US we should ban cars? After all it couldn't have been the drivers responsible!
I have my guns. Had them for well over 40 years. They don't sneak out at night and kill people. I keep them locked up. In hunting season I provide for my family. Off season I shoot paper and clays. I am a memeber of the NRA proud of it too. Desmonte is nothing more than a coward who had in his possetion an illegal firearm and he used it. I don't know the situation but if someone was tryin to kick my ass I would have tried to kick their ass, no guns no knife. Probably would have got my ass kicked if I was that @!$%#, so be it no one would die. The next day sober up, feel the pain and apologize. This @!$%# did none of that. Three folks dead. Loser, plain and simple. Lawyer up your gonna need it. Guns are not the problem. It is the cowards that cannot be "disrespected". Chump.
Guns don't kill people. Young black men with guns kill people.
@Stanley James
Funny how you convientantly left out more recent FBI reports which show a gerneral decline in murders nationwide, even after an explosion in gun sales thanks to Obama's election. The ironic part is that much of the unjustifiable gun crime occurs in urban areas with strict gun control. Kind of ironic how those pesky facts don't coincide with your liberal Contsitution-hating agenda.
Also, the UK has the highest violent crime rate in Europe. Higher than the US and even South Africa. Google "UK most violent country"
Stanley James, out of that 29,000 deaths 17,000 were suicides, which doesn't figure into the discussion of crime and self defense. Counting only the times a criminal is killed in self defense doesn't give you a remotely close number of times people defend themselves with guns.
Two studies in the 1990's showed there were around 2 million instances every year of stopping a criminal by having a gun. A lot of the time they just had to show they were armed to stop the criminal. The LA Times challenged that number and they could only get it down to 700,000 instances per year. Even if the number is in between, around 1.4 million instances per year, that's well over 3000 instances per day of people defending themselves with a gun.
In the 10 year period after Great Britain outlawed guns, their violent crime rate went up 84%. They have one of the highest violent crime rates out of 35 industrialized nations. Their rate is 3-4 times higher than the US.
Guns are a deterrent to violent crime.
I'm sick to death of this ongoing and going nowhere gun debate. Every single solitary time there is a shooting that results in injury and/or death, the gun advocates and the gun control advocates come out of the woodwork. Hey! Be kind. . .REWIND! People are dead and one young man is now facing at least 3 capital murder charges. In this particular case, a gun was used to kill those 3 individuals and that's not good. Why don't you people duke it out on the NRA's website and leave the human beings with an ounce of empathy to mourn the loss of young lives. Oh, and for the record, I read an article today about a father in Texas who found a house guest in the act of molesting his 4 year old daughter. Want to know how he got control of the situation and, subsequently, inadvertently killed the molester? He clocked him upside the head and to death with some random object he found lying around nearby to make sure the guy stopped molesting his young daughter. No gun, no swooping in with his firearm arsenal. . .just plain old common sense and, for better or for worse, the molester lost his life. There will be no charges filed against the self-defending father because there was no intent to kill nor was there premeditation. Chew on that for awhile, Boys!!!
No thanks, chipper... it makes a mess of the drywall. The broadhead nocked on my compound in the corner will remind you of vlad the impaler if I time it just right as they dive through the window at the end of the hallway, after my wife just racks the slide on the 870 to get them moving. That sound's unmistakeable even in the next room.
Way to generalize the entire nation. Some of us aren't fans of guns or the boneheads who constantly keep one at their sides. This isn't 1880. You shouldn't run for your gun (if you have one) every time you assume someone dangerous is on your lawn or at your door.
Do you people understand what the 2nd amendment is all about? The main reason behind it isn't for you to protect your house or your valuables or even yourself and your family's from criminals who want to do you harm. It was made to make sure that you always have the opportunity to defend your country and to take it back if ever the govt. becomes too powerfull. That way you will have something to fight them with besides sticks and rocks. We have the right to form militias and use those militias against our own govt. if they ever get too powerfull and forget that they are there to serve us, not the other way around. If we ever become that stupid, to allow the govt. to repeal the 2nd amendment, and allow them to take our guns away, we as the citizens of this country will have lost any chance of being able to get our country back when our govt. becomes too powerfull. We already have had some pretty extreme losses that directly deal with the 2nd amend. One of them being the fact that somehow, someway down the line we had forgot what that amendment was there for. And we allowed our govt. to regulate what kind of guns are now available to the public. Mainly that our guns should only be suited for hunting animals and not what it really should be for, which is to protect us from our own government. I honestly believe IMO that all guns should be allowed to be purchased by any law abiding citzens in this country. Once they do get our guns, it's over. They than can do whatever it is that they please and we will have no way of defending ourselves. This was so important to our founding fathers who created this country that they made it the 2nd most important thing in the constitution. Because they knew that in order to completely control the population, first you have to control their weapons. Once you have those, you can do anything you want and no one can stop you...
Hey rbj..74s, I am pretty sure the person who wrote:
"We love our guns...this is the cost of the 2nd Amendment."
is on your side and was just being sarcastic when he/she wrote that.
Red- great post on 2.2
Blaming guns for gun violence is like blaming spoons for Rosie O'donnell for being fat.
Howdy--- the ban is in progress. Like guns without ammo to shoot, what good are automobiles without fuel.
I'm just saying...the number of gun deaths now rival vehicle deaths.
http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/335-156/11567-gun-deaths-outpace-motor-vehicle-deaths-in-10-states
But you don't hear that federal efforts to reduce vehicle deaths are unconstitutional, do you? Air bags? DUI enforcement? Distracted driving enforcement? Speed enforcement? Driverless cars?
Where is the outrage?
Darr247 - I like the cut o' your jib.
hang him at dawn and be done with it.
You are a terrible representation of the rascist pigs of the great USA.
Shame on you.
Let's ask the good people of that state. I'm sure they won't be pleased squandering millions on this waste of carbon's legal representation and incarceration.
Shame on you... Mr. Tony, you racist jerk.
Where does tony indicate race?
Wonder if he will use the Zimmerman defense
Yea, he never said anything about this animal being black. He just said hang em' at dawn. That just sounded like a ultra-conservative view on this criminal to me. I'm not agreeing with stringing that thing up w/o a trail, but of course, they got to get right on the bandwagon and roll out the same old race routine with no evidence of any racism anywhere in this guy's statement......................
The only one soundng like a racist jerk in this tract is Myia3000...go figure.
Myia3000 where in the hell do you get off calling him a racist jerk?!?! The only racist I can see on this site is you!! If you are implying that to hang someone is racist against blacks, than you had better pull your head out of your A$$!! Do you know that some states till have hanging as an option for their death penelty ie. New Hampshire and Washington. It racist pigs like you who try and hide their own racism by calling others racists for absolutely no reason at all that almost make these kind of discussions unbearable for others to read.
Turn him into a redneck wind chime!
Guess white folks don't even recognize their own racist remarks.
He was standing his ground... oh wait, he's black. Never mind
Your trolling skills are not strong, grasshopper.
@Kingman512 - That was a very ignorant comment. You could have kept it cause Zimmerman is going to prison.
Hope he remembers how to do that when Bubba is bending him over in prison....stand your ground b!tch, it makes it more fun when they struggle.
jashn,
True. They're not bending you over that bunk because they like the sex .... they're doing it because they like the look on your face.
I'm a proud alumni of Auburn University, and I wasn't aware that a school with a history of more than 150 years revolves around the football team. Assumptions like that rip the credibility out of an otherwise routine story. The Auburn family has rallied around this incident not because of its impact on the football team, but its impact on the Auburn family, the school and the otherwise safe community.
Are you serious? Alabama is eaten up with Football fever. Everybody in the whole blasted state insists that every man, woman and child pick a side - you are either an Alabama or an Auburn fan or you are an outcast. The football nuts run rampant in that crazy state. And this is what happens when football overshadows education, you end up recrutting semiprofessional thugs to win ballgames. They are a rough crowd and they hang with a rough crowd. The outcome is inevitable.
There are plenty of students at Auburn who never attend a football game and couldn't care less. Not arguing that there are plenty of football nuts in this state but 80% of them are more interested in that other team closer to mississippi. She is serious and she knows of what she speaks.
...And yet another black face for America's black violence.
You are such a racist. It could have been anyone, you prick!
Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, were are you..? no Riots ?
Wow...I'm hoping you don't have kids...and if you do...I hope they go to prison.
Don't let the juveniles bait you that's all they are. Only time they are not on trying to get someone going is when it time to put on new acne meds
If Obama had a son, He would look like Desmonte Leonard.
Just wondering what would I have done if there were a crowd of six massive, strong, football players chasing me. Just wondering.
just run idiot, not shot and kill them..! next: you are a runner or in the jail ?
There were three football players. The other three that we know of were not athletes. Furthermore, reports indicate that the football players were not the ones to instigate the violence.
You would have found a way to get the hell out of there today with free guns everywhere the first notion may be to shoot. The problem with this second amendment BS is the fact that without controls to control who have and do not have them makes it a free for al and welcome to the old west. Before this it would have been a couple of black eyes a bloody nose and some unkind words.
They say he wasn't living there or going to school there so he shouldn't have even gone to the party, shouldn't have argued over a woman and shouldn't have brought a gun with him. Now he has killed people and he will be going to prison.
Something like this happened to an old friend of mine. He went back in with a pump shotgun and cornered them. He asked if they wanted to f--- with him now, and he blew a hole in the floor in front of them. Ha Ha Ha
That's why you and your homies are packing heat. In case six big football players want to kick your ass.
Question? Why would six big football players want to kick your ass?
Answer: Because you were there to stir up trouble.
six big football players want to kick your ass.
nope.
three big drunk football players want to kick your ass.
Here in "Dixie" a smaller man will not usually start a fight with a crowd of six giant-like men. These giants weigh 300-350 pounds, can run a 4:40, bench press 400 pounds and believe that they own the world and all of the pretty girls. Just saying, in this case Leonard had an equalizer and he use it. Down here we do not like to start fights, especially when the odds are so heavily stacked against us, but we always try to end them- in our favor. I am happy that Leonard surrendered and when all is said and done, he will probably walk.
From what I heard, which may or may not be true, he was "trying to get with" one of the player's girfriends. What sane," smaller" man would deliberately go to a party when he knows those giants will be there, drinking, and show his face, much less approach the players? If he had avoided the party, he wouldn't have needed an "equalizer". He should have stayed in Montgomery. He went there looking for trouble, whether he or his friends will admit it or not.
Why the racial comments? There are none when a middle class White father kills himself and his family. This is a sad story for the parents who send their kids off to college. These were not THUGS but students at college. It doesn't matter what walk of life we chose or how we get there to some of you we will always be the nothing more than some...... fill in whatever you please. I won't answer to it anyway.
Esprit De Corps
Well...two of them were thugs....Demario Pitts, who "accidentally" shot and killed his own cousing a couple of months ago, and of course this idiot, Desmonte Leonard. Neither one of them were college students. Demario Pitts was a big part, of instigating this fight with Desmonte. Just so happens Leonard's gun was bigger than Pitt's bottle. I feel for the two college students and their families; but, as for Pitts...Leonard just saved the taxpayers a lot of money. As for Leonard...plug in the electric chair.
@G-Man - I'll just bet the racist idiots commenting here will swear on a stack of bibles that they are "God fearing Christians" too. Yea right...
Why are these people thanking each other? Do they think that this is Academy Awards or MTV music awards.
Somebody get the Vaseline; I think Gregory Curry and G-Man-3467407 are about to have a party.
Three drug dealers dead and one in prison. Good day for Auburn cops. Why else would you quit the team except to make the 'big money'.
And you belief is based on the fact that they are Black? There are many reasons to quit. he may have been a walk on without a shot at making the team, he may have had an injury that would not heal right or any other personal issue. But because he is Black he quit to sell drugs to your kids. Let's face Backs sell it but Whites use it.
Esprit De Corps
Actually, if you would read the articles, you would know that one of the killed was not an athlete. The one football player that was shot and survived is still on the team. As for the two that were killed, one decided to transfer schools, probably due to playing time which is not uncommon. The other that was killed was medically unable to play but was planning on continuing his education with his scholarship.
He didn't say anything them quitting to sell drugs because they were black. Get over yourself and quit being so fu**ing sensitive about race. It's blacks like you that make whites really mad because you're always playing the victim.
@WisconsonDad - Can you spell moron? I hope so because you sound like one. What's really sad is that you are some poor kid's dad.
edub read his post before you defend him or do you have a problem with comprehension.
I did read his post. Apparently you have a comprehension problem, because he never said that they quit to sell drugs because they were black. Maybe you should go back and take a special ed. reading class since you obviously failed your first one. Next time, tell them not to lower the passing score because you're black.
He implied why else would they quit " to make big money" and I quote. You cannot comprehend nothing except your agenda. You failed keep it moving troll.
Esprit De Corps
Ignore G-Man-3467407 edub-3853225, third grade was long and hard on him.
racist ass america
The only thing we Americans ask for is that the gun fight be a fair fight. May the fastest man win.
Awesome.
I can't wait to see all of the racists in this wonderful country of ours, coming out of the woodwork.
Desmonte Leonard is entitled to a trial and is innocent until proven guilty.
Just leave it at that until the trial is over, ok?
They started coming out the woodwork when Pres Obama was elected.
How innocent can you be when scores of people saw what happened?
As Myia3000 was done blogging on the Zimmerman story screaming he should go to jail for life or be executed or what he did..... Who needs a jury for that one, right Myia?
Why is Desmonte Leonard entitled to a trial and presumption of innocence until proven guilty but George Zimmerman is not? Why has the mainstream media already tried and convicted Zimmerman and if they could, would gladly pull the switch at his execution? Why is it that Big Al, the professional racist, has led marches in support of a young black man who was killed by a sorta white honky but won't say a peep about three young black men who were killed by a black thug? America, thanks to the never-ending civil rights movement, will never be a post-racial society.
The only thing we Americans ask for is that the gun fight be a fair fight. May the fastest man win.
bilweeler,
Chances are it was illegal for the perp to own a gun. So, what are you going to do, pass laws that turn responsible, law-abiding gun owners criminals? You anti-gun people can't seem to get it through your heads...the necessary laws are already in place. Creating more only make it impossible for decent people to defend themselves.
why the black commnity don't condemn this ? what about the NAAP ? just silent...Zimmerman kill one and everybody screaming, this guy kill three athlets and just silent..? because is a black men have a wright to kill others ?
Can you write right?
If the gun was legal they got no case. Maybe they get him for carrying it concealed (should be a misdemeanor).
don't need any law to protect your family or property. lead works very well,
Listen to me young feller: You "don't need any law to protect your family or property. lead works very well,"
But Joe, this is 2012, not 1812. And we're computer technicians not the guys in "The Good, Bad, and the Ugly" movie.
"Oh, shut up and keep loading them rounds into the banana clip."
Gee Knightarm, is your check from the nanny state late or is something else bothering you? When the government gives you all you need and you come to expect it, they can also limit it or take it away.
And to assume that td49 is stockpiling or in need of a P.E. is rather short sighted. As hot headed as you are, it is a good thing that you are not 'packin' or you may end up solving a dispute over a parking spot with'lead'
Black males as a group will never be able to conduct themselves like civilized human beings. They are emotionally driven and unable to resolve conflict without violence. But, with an average IQ of 85, is this really surprising?
Of course, they like to blame it on whitey and call us racists when we recognize them for what they are.
Yeah us Blacks Start the majority of the World's Wars too. If it were not for us they would be eternal peace all over the World. Even in the places where there are no Blacks now they would stop fighting because we were no longer in the World. Kumbya.
Esprit De Corps
I totally recognise you for what you are. A redneck hillbilly loon who has to hide behind a PC to make a uneducated and asinine comment. How does your comments explain the thousands of robberies, rapes, and murders committed by your kind in this country every day. You're supposed to have a higher IQ.
Well, if my comment is so uneducated, asinine and simply untrue, perhaps you can provide evidence to refute it other than calling me uneducated and asinine.
Statistics PROVE that, proportionally, blacks commit FAR more violent crimes than whites. Tell me, why is it almost every time I turn on the TV, I see black faces much more often when they are reporting on crimes?
And don't tell me it's because of anti-black bias, because the mainstream media is full of white guilt ridden liberals who just love to defend blacks.
@edub..you are your own best "evidence", a particular type of racist: "the
lower IQ ignorant kind". You sound retarded dude, quit making up facts and statistics,
desperately trying to sound informed and educated.
With each comment you make, you keep providing us with the "evidence" to "refute" your
own azz!
When white people get together and party they might get drunk and fight or stab even someone.How many times have you heard of shootings at black nightclubs and parties.Almost every week.Come down south and see how many 'black shootings' there are each week.
Gman. Have you studied Africa lately? Blacks killing blacks at a record pace.
ani4ani you missed my point. He is making it seem as though we are the only violent people on Earth. I am not making excuses for the Blacks that do these horrendous things, do not make it seem as though we are the only ones doing it. Human are just inherently violent so to say one race is more so than another is asinine.
Esprit De Corps
Point taken.
hitler was not black, and the excess of 6 million people he sent to there deaths because he just did not like them were all white.......the English and French fought for how long? white people can be just as violent. there are problems and trouble makers with any race.......not everyone just enough of them to cause a problem.......Desmonte turned himself in. why? there is more here than we know. hey if 6 big guys get a hold of you,you are a pretzel they are gonna hurt you real bad.....i was not there i do not know , lets let the jury decide.
The black community is not condemning this you idiots because the police were looking for this kid and not trying to cover for him. He is being charged with capital murder as he should. What is there to protest? It's amazing some of you racist loons can even use a computer.
Wrong, you politically correct, black sympathizing liberal. The black community isn't condemning this because it doesn't give them any fodder for their anti-white agenda. The black community only makes an issue out of white on black crime, which is very, very rare. Black on white crime is MUCH more frequent, but most blacks secretly like hearing about when a black assualts, rapes or murders a white.
I agree. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson could care less about the average poor black person. All they care about is sustaining their position of wealth, power and respect as the bogus saviors of the black race. To do this, they have to latch on to enough cases of white on black racism - real or percieved - to demonstrate to the poor blacks that their saving power is still needed.
Both these guys are rich men! They have nothing in common with the poor, uneducated blacks they claim to represent.
What a shame, 22 years old and he is going to spend the rest of his life in prison.
No he will most likely be put to death, AL doesn't coddle murderers.
Was the shooter provoked?
Google
Auburn shooting witness: An argument, a fight, a shooting, then death
Provoked to shoot up everyone there?..I think not.
We should get to see his grade school picture. Probably looked very innocent in the 6th grade.
WAKE UP AMERICA
So did you boy! Look in the mirror. You Wake your ignorant butt up.
Why does the end result have to be Gun Violence,within our Black culture Gun violence is the end result of
an argument-Who taught being a Man,meant you had to go get a Gun and take another man's Life?
What is it with our youth,and men in general,who take violence as an everyday act,When is enough going to be Enough,More Moving is the reaction of our own people,This is not a Video Game,Does anyone care?We have Pastor's who choke they're own Children,We have an alarming number of Black men who batter there own,and Make no mistake,I love Non-violent People,But Our brother's have become our own worst enemy,The KKK can retire,,but our new Enemy is within.
And let me say This I know there are wonderful people out there,But it's 80/20 80 percent of the people are Bad,and 20 percent are good.It's time to start practicing being non-violent.
Someone who get's it.Thank you for your candidness.
Refreshing to see someone being honest with themselves. All the best to you and yours Mr. Wilson.
As a white teacher of inner-city children, I believe the only way this will change is for black men to grow up and begin leading their families and taking responsibility as fathers. This will not change in my generation, I don't believe. But I do see a movement among black men to mentor the young boys who don't have fathers. It won't be enough but it's a start. It breaks my heart every day to see these young boys growing up in poverty with so much anger and no strong male role model. These idiots on here who claim it is genetic or inherent are so ignorant it's astounding. They should volunteer with some of these children. It may not be their personal responsibility but culturally we're doomed if this divisiveness continues. It would help them, also, to look into those faces and eyes and learn to love these children rather than hate their race.
Tony,
You make quite a few bold statements that no one else who is Black is willing to make. You should be a leader on some level. You are needed.
Some people look at the problems within the Black communities and simply want to throw more money at them knowing that it will never work. It does work to get their votes, though, and hence the saying that they are "still on the plantation." And, indeed, they are. White and Black.
Until people like yourself begin to make moves to change the people from the inside out, no amount of money will be a solution. That’s just another form of slavery under different names. Welfare, etc., and it’s being bred into our youth so fast that it’s astonishing. "I deserve this or that." There’s no man (or apparently strong enough woman) to say, "You don’t deserve a thing you’re not willing to work for. Now, you either open that damn school book and learn or bring it to me so that I can beat some sense into your skull."
You may not know it, but you asked the real question: "Who taught being a man ..." Problem is, same as happens in the White communities, too few children have real men around them to guide them and teach them principles, values, morals, work ethics, etc. Some women have their so-called "PRIDE" and shove the fathers out the door as fast as they can so they can move onto another one...who will also be shoved out or either leave for another one. And on the cycle goes. We breed another generation that's worse than the one before.
Doesn’t matter the color. Show me a teenaged boy who is into drugs, ill-behaved, has pants dragging the damn ground and listening to music that would make Satan himself blush, and I’ll wager you that there’s no real man in the kid’s life. And, like I mentioned above, not a mother of much character either.
I know how difficult it is to raise kids these days, but it’s not impossible to raise them well. No. It’s easier to spend the time and sacrifice to raise them well enough that they don’t cause you misery the rest of your life by cheating them out of life’s valuable lessons.
Kids are too precious to be thrown to the wolves of our society today. It’s up to us to take what time we can with them. Even at a grocery store with strangers’ kids, we can take a second or two to be social and shed some grace onto every child we encounter. Never know. It may be that two seconds that helps the child dare dream to achieve.
Best Regards
just like another @!$%# to commit a crime....even murder. Gonna spend $35k year to support his ass in prison, not to mention the welfare for his family. @!$%#in sick of it!!
Guns are like anything else. When in the hands of someone with some sense, chances are, said gun will never be used. In the hands of the average goomba, well, we have the statistics. Unfortunately, the statistical reality is that there are a lot more average goombas out there. Do the math. And, for all you right-wingers out there bent on defending the right to bear arms, that is like defending defending the right to walk east and look for a sunset. Sure, you have the right but it is stupid beyond words.