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Subscribe to RSSALLIANCE, Neb. -- A 14-hour standoff with a gunman at a pharmacy ended with the suspect's death, the Nebraska State Patrol said early Wednesday.
The dead suspect was identifed by police as 27-year-old Andres Gonzales, of Alliance.
A police statement did not say how Gonzales died. However, the death was confirmed following a gunbattle inside the pharmacy with Nebraska State Patrol SWAT team members. None of the SWAT officers was injured.
Nebraska State Patrol Lt. Lance Rogers said earlier that the gunman was wanted in connection with the shooting and wounding of two city police officers and a state patrol officer. None of their injuries is life-threatening.
The gunman also held a hostage for hours Tuesday in a western Nebraska drugstore. The hostage, identified Wednesday by Collins as pharmacy owner Charles Lierk, 62, of Alliance. Lierk managed to escape but was shot while getting away, Collins said. Lierk was taken to a local hospital where he was in stable condition, she said.
Rogers also said police found a body Tuesday in a nearby home but declined to say whether it is related to the standoff. Police don't know how that person died, Rogers said.
'Best hometown in America'
The standoff began Tuesday morning when the gunman entered the Thiele Pharmacy & Gifts in the center of downtown Alliance, a city of about 8,600 people.
"When we woke this morning in the best hometown in America, little did anyone in our wildest dreams foresee what would transpire today," Mayor Fred Feldges said.
Authorities said that officers responded after an apparent botched robbery.
More than 10 hours after the standoff started, Rogers described the scene as "very volatile," according to NBC station WOWT.
Alliance Police Chief John Kiss said the gunman shot officers Matt Shannon, 35, and Kirk Felker, 43.
Shannon was treated at Box Butte General Hospital and released. Felker also was taken to the hospital and was recovering, Kiss said.
Later, state trooper Tim Flick, 37, was wounded. He remained hospitalized Tuesday night. WOWT reported that Flick was a 15-year veteran of the state patrol.
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The standoff prompted police to close off several blocks of downtown Alliance throughout the day. Much of downtown remained blocked early Wednesday morning.
Ray Hielscher told the Lincoln Journal Star that he was watching the pharmacy from a Radio Shack across the street and saw the hostage run out about 5:30 p.m. local time (8:30 p.m. ET). Hielscher said he heard shots as the hostage ran out the front door and made it to safety to nearby police.
Earlier in the day, Dixie Nelson, director of the Alliance Chamber of Commerce, said she looked out the window of her organization's offices across the street from the pharmacy after an employee heard a gunshot.
"We had just come out of a staff meeting," Nelson said. "Our administrative assistant was walking up to the front, and she heard the shot."
Nelson said she saw a wounded police officer, who was shot in an arm while standing outside the pharmacy. It appeared the shot was fired through the glass on the store's door or window.
"He was shot in the arm. I could see. Either his upper forearm or bicep area," Nelson said.
Alliance is in the Nebraska Panhandle, about 370 miles west Omaha and 190 miles from Denver.
The Associated Press and NBC station WOWT contributed to this report.
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Notice that the SWAT team that went in there to apprehend the gunman did not try to use a hostage negotiator. For a long time, hostage negotiators were used to avoid the inevitable gunfights that SWAT teams become involved in. Unfortunately, the hostage negotiators have become a thing of the past. These SWAT teams now are little more than execution squads. They're not out to capture people. They're out there to kill people. I wouldn't be surprised if the pharmacy owner was shot by one of the trigger happy SWAT team.
Hey Eddie,,,I think the negotiations,,went out the window,,after this Hispanic shot two of the officers,,personally,,i think their approach is the best,,it saves the taxpayers a lot of money,,when the minority groups get out of hand,,oh,,and yea,,,I'm a "hillbilly redneck",,that lives in the south and,,,I'm a screaming racist,,when it comes to taking out the trash.But,,,I would like to ad,,,I feel the same way about the "white rednecks",,when they get out of hand,,,so don't go throwing accusations,,you'll just be wasting your breath.
Three law enforcement officers were already shot Eddie give it a break.This animal was put down like any other rabid dog should be.
Eddie, I bet if a SWAT team ever saves your life you might not have the same attitude. Brave people, putting themselves between the animals and us.
Hey Kid, you going to vote for obama again?
Eddie, did you not see the headline "14 hour Standoff". I'm sure they tried to negotiate, especially while he had a hostage, but once the hostage escaped (being shot in the process) they had enough of him. Your comment is silly, SWAT Teams more often then not don't end up killing anyone even though they only deal with the most violent and most desperate. The guy shot several people and your mad he got shot back? What a joke.
What kind of minority was Timothy McVeigh?-Eddie is right, we have such a surplus of returning soldiers, with basic shoot and kill standards, turning police, and no education, that the land of the free, has now gone back to the old ways. Those who can get most guns are the "free ones" in charge, and they survive, even in Iraq-it takes a lot of guns and tax payer Dollars to be in charge these days!
We'll see what you think when some lunatic is pointing a gun at you or you family!
EddieTheFool,
Way to go. Blame the SWAT team. Don't blame the robber/hostage taker/cop shooter.
BTW: Good job on the kill shot SWAT team! Nice to see poeple good at what they do.
Gonzales says it all, but to be a troll doesn't help either. So it is the SWAT team's fault this Gonzales got a gun and possibly kill people, and to further the stupidity, sit down and talk to a negotiator. Now I have heard it all. Get rid of the cops..and you know who you piss off? Likely your favorites, Obama, Holder, and Biden, Wasserman-Schultz. Priceless! The president is screaming for more cops and firemen, this helps his economics.
Live in Nebraska, local news said a hostage negotiator was on site for hours.
The hostage taker was in control of this situation, not Swat. He knew they were not going to let him just walk away, and he could have just put his gun down and his hands up and safely left the store but that wasn't his choice. If he runs out of the store with his gun blazing, why on earth would the police just stand there and let him go? They did their job, the officers are alive, the hostage is alive, the robber is dead, it almost sounds like it was a case of "suicide by cop". He didn't want to accept the consequences of all his stupid choices.
Arthur...you had to be the FIRST with the race crap...I'll bet you're a white guy?
As I've said many times BIGGEST RACISTS in the world!
I'm sick of it, can't you people STOP with the race crap? If this were someone who looked like you and me, you wouldn't even BRING race into the conversation!
Eddie is just pissed off because the SWAT team took out another Obama vote.
Commentbecause---Maybe he did look like you, a white-hispanic-black man.
So who shot the owner ?
Seemsobvious, if you re-read the story it says the suspect shot the owner as he made a run for it. Which was probably the smart thing to do as the hostage taker didn't seem into surrendering & had already shot multiple police officers.
If a criminal gets into a gunfight with police that criminal is stupid.
It's not a race issue, but an immigration one. I live in Nebraska and see the crime that ILLEGAL immigrants have brought into this nation. And with the suspect residing in Alliance with the last name of Gonzales, the chances of him being an illegal is higher than him not. Not racism. Truth. This is the fault of every administration, no matter if Republican or Democrat, that have allowed our borders to be non-existent and employers to pay non-living wages to keep U.S. citizens from taking jobs. For those of you who would argue that Americans won't work the jobs that ILLEGAL's do, you are wrong. This suspect committed a crime and the SWAT team saved the taxpayers quite a bit of money. Maybe we should send this SWAT team to the border to prevent more crime.
Posters like Eddiethekidiot do not care about facts.
let us wait, for the follow up; if this was a illegal, then , it will give more thought to do something with our borders.
We are all illegal immigrants technically. Immigrants built this country idiot. Drugs being illegal cause most of this type of crime. They have a hard time finding real work so the illegal drug market is their only choice. Low income neighborhoods and inner city minorities can make easy money selling drugs. Why slave your life away and kiss butt and scramble over others to maybe get a "liveable wage" when you can sell drugs? People are more desparate than ever.
These situations are only going to increase. As long as drugs are illegal then people will take advantage and more people will suffer and die. How many people have died from our drug policy? I'm sure it is an astronomical number and increasing every second. How many lives are ruined because of drug offenders being put into prisons with hard criminals? Too many to count. It's like sending people to a "how to be a real criminal" training camp. We suck. You suck. We have gone so far in this direction as a "civilized society" that it will be near impossible to go back. Thanks
dissappointed and ashamed,
First off, people need to stop with the, "we're all illegal immigrants," BS, as it's simply not true. It's an apologist's response to illegal immigration. My ancestors came here legally. They went through the process and became American citizens. If you're referring to the natives that were here before us, we did not immigrate--we conquored. History is full of civilizations that conquored others, but yet here in the US do we find people apologizing, still to this day, for doing so. While I do not agree with how it was done (nor do I agree with reservations--conquored peoples, throughout history, have assimilated with their conquorers, and in a few generations, share the cultural identity of them. Reservations are an insult and they delay the process of assimilation. I have native blood in me, and I get angry at how those who share my blood are treated), I *do* feel that this nation has become better for it. Flawed, but still one of the best nations on the planet.
Stop living your life as an apologist. Start moving forward, building bridges with others that share the name, "United States Citizen," and for the love of everything holy, stop making excuses for those who break our laws and come here illegally. There is a process in place for those who wish to become citizens.
Amen Wraith!
@ Waith
"My ancestors came here legally."
That makes them immigrants.
Yes, Dave, it makes *them* immigrants. It does not make *me* an immigrant. I was born here. I was commenting on the idiocy of, "we're all immigrants."
I didn't appologize for this idiot who got himself killed. I personally don't care. I certainly don't care what you think about me or my comment. I just stated some facts to ponder, not so you could rip on me because you got a meaning you were looking for to spout off your thought.
I don't appologize for illegals. I just imagine that the legal process takes forever and, if you were to come from a dire situation, then coming here illegally would be an option. I try not to judge a persons life when they make bad choices. We are all guilty of that. If they cause violence to others then get them the hell out. No tolerance there. This country is great, as far as the chunk of land we live on, it's beautiful, I love it and enjoy it everyday. The idea is great. But, the US is not great. We were. It seems like after WWII we have slowly dwindled into what I believe is an average standing in the world community. There are glimmers of hope. But the way we started out is a giant stain in our history, including many other parts of it.
CommentingbecauseIcan,
Checked out your profile. Every comment you make is racist. I'll bet money you're married to a black.....and by the way, put the meth pipe down and eat something!
Just because you were born here doesn't make you better than anybody. You are here because people immigrated here. Thats the fact. So if you don't want any immigrants here then we have to get rid of you too. Just saying. We are a pool of people of the world. I was born here too, doesn't make me better than any person that wants to come here and make a better life for their family and their future. It's easy to kick people down when you're the one on top of the hill isn't it?
bundgaard,
"Eddie is right, we have such a surplus of returning soldiers, with basic shoot and kill standards, turning police, and no education, that the land of the free, has now gone back to the old ways."
A surplus of returning soldiers? With your name perhaps after WWII in Germany. These so-called returning soldiers have two things in common that you lack: 1) common sense and 2) morals.
I never once said I was better than anyone, and I also agree with you that our founding is steeped in blood. However, we are now a nation, and a nation of laws at that. The law being, "if you are born here, you are not an immigrant, you are a natural citizen," being one of them, and the one I'm pointing out. So no, you cannot, get rid of me, not by the laws of the nation I live in. We are a nation *founded* by immigrants, not *of* immigrants.
Try again.
ACTUALLY, if you read any other article about this incident, you will see that they did use a negotiator. This entire situation makes me sick. This is my hometown. I know all the people involved. Went to high school with the shooter and he is definitely NOT and illegal alien. My parents were good friends and worked with his dad, who was shot and killed before this whole downtown situation, and have been for a long time. I hate that this made the front page of MSN. Now idiots like you can throw whatever comment you find clever out there without knowing anything. I feel sorry for Andy. He was bullied and picked on a lot in school. If you had told me 15yrs ago that he would do this, I never would have believed you.
Well paul, I'm neither white, OF HISPANIC ORIGIN , black OR a man so what's your point again?
And of COURSE leave it to you kind to throw the President of the United States into EVERY LITTLE THING....which I might add, I don't vote for! Unhappy with your life? Mad much?
@Eddiethekid - how much SWAT experience do you have? I mean aside from your vast experience from watching TV and movies?
You'll always be a kid, moron. Just because this article doesn't mention a negotiator, doesn't mean that one was not used. Your reasoning skills are lame.
Just because you don't use your brain doesn't logically mean that you were born without one - even though I have seen no evidence to the contrary. But using your "logic" on yourself would cause you to conclude you don't have one.
Same here, Wraith--my grandparents immigrated from the Ukraine from the Russian pogroms of the 19th century (fled to Canada but followed THEIR rules and regs to become legal.) Their children, including my mom, later became US citizens and learned the English language. Those "kids" are now in their 70s and 80s. They ALL did it the right way. My other set of grandparents fled Germany to the US right after WWI. They too did so legally and learned the language. Their kids, including my dad, were born here. I have problems with the current illegals, with their attitude of "I'm entitled to EVERYTHING just because I made it here." I also have a big problem of their bringing their violent way of life with them. My state is rapidly turning into another Mexico, with the drugs, filth, and Spanish being spoken everywhere I turn. Kudos to my bank, though (one of the nation's top 5 big ones): they will no longer be printing everything in English AND Spanish, AND you MUST have a VALID US driver's license, physical residence (not a P.O. Box) and MATCHING Social Security card with VALID numbers in order to open an account. They will also be thoroughly checked out in order to verify that the information is true and correct. If not, well, you can always go to Bank of America....
There was a negotiator there from the beginning. The article also does not say that the gunman killed his father that morning at his home. Luckily, the hostage was able to escape from this mad man!
Wraith, I agree with your last comment. I don't want to get rid of you man, lol.
A crime was commited so what's the idiotic commenting about? The law enforcement and others were involved in stopping a criminal, so what's the point again? The law enforcement had to stop this criminal, so what's the point again except he had to be put down. Some of you comment out of total stupidity in a clear issue of a crime and criminal ... I dont care what race he was, he was a criminal.
I am just laughing reading the ignorant comments here. I live in Alliance. Andy was white with blonde hair. He grew up in and graduated from Alliance. My dad hauled cattle with his dad. He always had problems which obviously came to a head yesterday. I know the people he shot and had a family member on one of the SWAT teams. We were sick to our stomachs yesterday, just hoping Chaz would get out of this alive (pharmacy hostage). My family was worried, hoping that our SWAT member wouldn't be added to the list of shot officers. There was a negotiater present and talking to Andy for the majority of the ordeal. Stop knocking the law enforcement officers, you rotten bastards. We had community members in real, serious danger with a trigger happy, skilled gunman. If it was your friends or family that had been there, your opinions probably would be different. It went like it should have, just too bad that one of the hostages didn't have thier concealed carry and a weapon with them, it could have been ended a lot earlier with less blood shed. So shut your ignorant mouths and instead be happy with the rest of us that the gunman was the only life lost.
"after this Hispanic shot two of the officers"
Nice of you to point the ethnicity of the suspect out, but I bet you don't know his race.
They did try negotiate with this man, for many, many, many hours. There is speculation that the other person that was found dead in this town is as a result of this man's actions. What we do know if that he went in and tried to rob a place at gunpoint, shot 2 local police officers, as well as a State Patrol member. This man had nothing to lose and it is just fortunate that none of the officers were killed! If the SWAT team finally moves in on you and you engage in a gun battle with them, how do you think this will end?
That is what you call permanent rehabilitation. That criminal will never re-offend.
To:Schoolyard,,and Paul,,thankyou,,and to Commenting,,you obviously don't read real well,,or,,you don't comprehend to well,,you need re-read my post,,and read it carefully,,I think I pretty much covered all the bases,,but re-read the last line,,that part about "wasting your breath",,I know what I am,,and I ain't going to change because of your bashing.
commentingbecauseican
Sorry, I was trying not to insult you. Surely you are not the skank in the picture, if so we are seeing the wrong end to tell your gender but forget it, I don't care to.
If that is your picture and that person looked like that he would have killed himself and most certainly would have if he saw mine. Let's not wish our looks on others.
I have a great life and I'm generally always happy. Can you see me grinning?
Good ridance to the hostage taker, robber, murderer.
Exactly! One less bad pill on the streets and one less person to take care of with tax payers money. Glad it ended that way it did. 1 point for the good guys.
Gonzales---------------------------must be another German trouble maker!!!
Guts to watch out for those schnitzel folk!!!!
Nah, probably another White American with a gun that doesn't want to recognize his Hispanic heritage. He was probably patrolling his neighborhood too when he saw these armed individuals with badges.
This one got what he deserved, but some Oklahoma pharmacist got a life in prison for shooting a young black thief who robbed him for drugs at the gun point.
None of the SWAT officers was injured... None of their injuries is life threatening. Interesting choice in grammar.
Don't have to no english to right this stuff - just use the translation guide!
Reverse grammar just to see if anyone notices. Seriously, NBC and MSNBC news team at their finest.
They also can't tell time. Nebraska is on Mountain time which is only 2 hours behind Easter tine. Not 3 as the article states.
Guess it may be back to the mail room for this budding "journalist"??
Wrong wagonmaster, the journalist will be promoted to cheif editor in no time.
What or who is writing this stuff?
None of the SWAT officers was injured.
None of their injuries is life-threatening.
HA
Reading comprehensive problem? No SWAT officers injured, end of sentence and end of paragraph. Wanted in connection with shooting and wounding two city police officers and a state patrol officer. Beginning of new paragraph that explains who was shoot and that the injuries were not life-threatening.
Hate to be the grammar queen here, but "none of the officers WAS injured" is the correct version. We usually say "none WERE injured" but that's not technically correct. Has to do with noun/verb plural/singular agreement...which is just too awkward to try to explain here.
I'll bet the pharmacy worker applies for his concealed carry license in short order. These officers could have avoided being shot if the pharmacy worker would have just taken out the guy when he tried to rob the place. With no jobs and the amount of money that can be made by selling drugs, these things are going to happen more frequently. Because more and more people are being shot, including police officers, more citizens are getting their concealed carry licenses and carrying every place they go, including work. The bad guys will soon realize that they are going to be shot for their troubles and they aren't going to know where the shot came from. Hopefully, when Obama doesn't get reelected and more jobs are available, people will once again be able to walk the streets without having to carry a gun. Until that day comes, "Lock and Load" brother and sisters. Your life depends on it.
Amen Otter!!!
I saw in a commercial the first day Mitty is Pres unemployment and cancer will be over!
I agree with your sentiment Otter, but it's harder to draw from concealment than you think. And I'm not sure most people walking around with guns have the proper mindset and training to pull them out and kill a felon who is threatening their life. The CCW classes most states require are a joke and it shows in the reports of the incidents CCW holders are involved in. You usually see the suspect listed in "stable condition" and this is after being shot from close range. I'm not one of these jackasses who thinks civilians shouldn't be allowed to carry weapons and I understand why the laws are written how they are, but not investing in training and practice is a gross dereliction of the responsibility you take on when you carry a gun. Remember, a pint of sweat in training saves a gallon of blood in combat.
We actually have a really good class here in town and awesome shooting ranges. An armed society is a polite society. The bad guys know we are sitting ducks and the public has got to learn to defend themselves to cut down on the crime rates!!!
@HK-G3:
I agree wholeheartedly but on the flip side, civilians are NOT seeking extra training, trust me. My business is firearms training and advanced personal protection tactics etc. Right now, society does not believe there is a problem....that is until someone is breaking down their door that is, then it is too late because then they will ALWAYS be on the defensive. It is very VERY sad out here right now. I still offer, I still put classes on and even the NRA came out with a new Defensive Pistol Course for instructors to gain as a certification but once again, it is up to the instructor to have information in order to teach it well to others.
Oddly enough there is a diagnosis for your condition. It's a type of personality disorder and has a real name. look up "Munchhausen related personality disorder". you will be amazed how accurately it describes you guys/
According to the NRA and the state of Indiana the cops were wrong. This guy legally shot at the cops because they threatned him. So if this happened in Indiana the cops should be arrested for murder.
Who cares what the NRA and Indiana have to say about this. This happened in Nebraska.
You seriously have your head up your @$$ and know nothing about law enforcement much less State Laws. Heck, get the State correct first.
That's ridiculous and I'm guessing probably not true. HE HAD OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS HELD HOSTAGE!!!!! Jeez people......I don't even know what to say to some of this ignorant commentary. As the last hostage took his life in his own hands and was running from the store, the gunman shot him. HELLO!!!!
Since when is Nebraska in Pacific Time Zone?
It's actually in Mountain time but many such towns do not have daylight savings and so they end up 3 hours behind instead of 2 for half a year. Amazing that everything is not all one way or the other, huh? Who'd have thunk it?
The reporter flunked geography and thought Nebraska was next to California.
I live in Nebraska. Most of the state is actually in the Central time zone. But, the far western part - mostly just the panhandle area - is on Mountain time. Definitely no part of the state is in the Pacific time zone.
I looked it up. Alliance, NE is in the panhandle area, and they do, in fact, observe DST. So, if stuff went down at 5:30 local time, it'd be 7:30 Eastern, 4:30 Pacific.
Sorry three officers and the store owner were wounded by this low life - - being a retired SWAT team member - - Go Team - - Good Job and Stay Safe - - I'd "Go Thru the Door" with any of you!!!!
A nice time saving and money saving end to these crimes. My thoughts and prayers are with the injured officers and the pharmacist.
I'm glad the people of Nebraska won't have to support this clown for the next forty years. He got what he deserved.
One more thing, who is Collins?
This kind of situation will only get worse and worse sad but true because people want to get what they want free.
Serves the hostage right for becoming a hostage in the first place. Selling drugs right in the middle of town. Oh wait, it was a pharmacy and he was the pharmacist. Never mind.
Now as far as the shooter , Mr. GOnzales, goes, if he was receiving the proper health care benefits like President Obama is pushing for, then Mr. Gonzales wouldn't have to resort to robbery to get the medicine he needs for his family. Medicine like aspirin, Tylenol, antibiotics, Oxycontin, vicodin, methadone. I'm sure Mr. GOnzales is just a regular average citizen, of some country other than the United States, that wanted to do a little shopping and was short of cash. He probably wanted to trade his gun for the medicine and the bad pharmacist thought he was trying to rob him. Typical racial profiling if you ask me.
JohnnyZap, please tell me you don't live near Alliance, NE. I do live in Alliance and people like you scare me more than Gonzales!
I hope JohnnyZap does not live near us, in Western NE. You scare me more than Gonzales. How dare you armchair quarterback Charles? By the way better get your facts straight on the shooters racial backround....
Who would have thought a pharmacy in Nebraska. I hear there is an increase in pharmacy roberries, because of the more stringent rules with prescriptions and America has literally been getting high legally for years. Not anymore but unfortunately folks have been robbing pharmacies...Go figure.Hopefully this is an isolated incident, I doubt it....ONLY IN AMERICA......ONLY...........IN ............AMERICA!
Andres Gonzales, the ALL AMERICAN boy in the best little all American town. Does anyone know this guys legal status? He seems to treat officers in the same manner the cartels do over in Mexico. Well boy, you learned you can't mess with the US!
Andres Gonzales was born and raised in Alliance, he has a family, he made some bad choices, not about Obama, not about being illegal, about being very lost.
Thank you, Retreiver. People hear the last name and automatically make assumptions without knowing anything. I was hoping this would end differently, but at least the whole situation is over.
More than the thought of the jerk that caused his own demise ... Is the poor writing skills of the reporter! The Quote" shooting and wounding of two police officers and a state patrolman, none of there injuries is life threatening".... should be none of their injuries ARE life threatening!!! Better get back to English 101.....
You've got the "their" right, but the verb is "is". Their is not the subject of the sentence. It is in the prepositional phrase "of their injuries". English 101???
Nope, "none of their inuries IS life threatening" is correct.
i agree with you. injuries, plural, so "are" would be correct. how did we get sucked into this conversation?
Gun man is dead no one else is dead, case closed. He knew what he had coming after shooting police officers.
Absolutely
Guns don't kill people, guns in the hands of criminals kills people. Even if guns were outlawed they'd still be in the hands of criminals killing people and all law abiding citizens would be SCREWED.
EXACTLY!!!! Why doesn't the general population understand this concept???!!!
....and they pried the gun from his cold dead hands...
I am amazed at all of you who are preaching "poor criminal" shot like a dog horse***t.
What exactly did you think would happen anywhere in this type of situation? There were 3 police officers and civilian shot by this rabid animal and by the way race was NOT an issue. What happened was the police doing what was needed to bring closure to a allready terrible situation.
Rule of thumb "If you rob, shoot and try to kill police or civilians odds are you are increasing the probability you also will be shot"
Moral of story " Obey the law, dont rob or attempt to murder you will live longer"
Society is so worried about the rights of the criminal they have forgotten about the rights of the law abiding.
Long Live The Second Amendment.
Gonzales that s a nice American name
You actually posted this? How do you know his family hasn't been here longer than yours? He could be a 10th generation American Latino. Posts like yours just fuel the ignorant bigotry that is growing in AMERICA.
American names, like Sakakawea and Pacahontas?
how about you post YOUR last name so we can all judge how American YOU are. what is your criteria or point system used to determine if someone's name is american or not.
to eddie the idiot.the standoff was 14 hours.They tried to talk him down IDIOT.They did and outstanding job.
Don't confuse the "kid" with facts. Besides, they are irrelevant to him.
good 1 less scumbag i have to pay to keep alive in jail his miserable life.. yeahhh