McQueary is just as guilty! Anyone who witnesses a child being raped and says nothing or does nothing to protect that child is a failure as a human being. He should go to jail too. He's as disgusting as Sandusky.

That is precisely how this animals work, find the weak and pounce. They don't want a kid with a stable family and an a$$ kicking dad.

I think Monday I was almost brought to tears when the kid said he kept going back because Jerry was the only person that listened to him.

McQuery reported it to his dad and to Joe Paterno! The older, more established men should have taken action. I don't blame McQuery because he reported it, and without him the case would be harder to prove. Do you expect a 22 year old to take an action that 50 and 60 year olds are afraid to take?

Renegade-

You are WAY OFF. McQueary deserves criticism for not intervening, but the only person truly RESPONSIBLE for this behavior is Mr Sandusky. No one else is as guilty as this pedophile. Everything else is secondary.

This sick SOB should be publicly executed. Period.

@Renegade007...you are an idiot...Mac turned in his observations to the Exalted Head Coach...WHO DID NOTHING...even the head of the college knew...AND DID NOTHING...

McQueary is just as guilty! Anyone who witnesses a child being raped and says nothing or does nothing to protect that child is a failure as a human being. He should go to jail too. He's as disgusting as Sandusky.

McQueary informed his superiors in a timely manner and at that point had fulfilled his responsibility. A subordinate who reports something to their superior has done their job. If the superior does nothing, then they are responsible. In this case, McQueary had NO WAY of knowing if anything was being done, because investigations of this type are normally conducted very quietly for the sake of everyone involved. It would not be unusual for him to assume it was being investigated since he had properly reported it.

McQueary even stated that since Campus Police were involved at one point he was under the impression law enforcement was aware. It is not productive to point the finger at a 22 year old that behaved reasonably. Direct the anger towards the actual criminal.

I applaud MSNBC and NBC for NOT publishing the names. I think McQueary was just freaked. He did the right thing by going to his superiors...for all he knew, Sandusky might have tried to kick his a**...he was a kid himself. The whole thing is just tragic.

McQueary also reported the incident to the Penn State Vice-President who was in charge of the campus police and campus security. McQueary probably should have done more, but he was in a bad spot as a student with all his future with the Penn State athletic department at stake. You have to remember that McQueary was just a kid himself with no real "status" except as a probationary student coaching assistant. But he did what a conscientous kid should do. He consulted his father who told him to report it to Paterno. He did so and Paterno did the precise minimum he could get away with and nothing more. He also reported it to the VP in charge of campus police/security. He was specifically instructed by the campus official to keep quiet about it until an investigation was conducted.

There are several Penn State people who will most likely go to jail because of the coverup. From the e-mails being disclosed it appears that Spanier and Paterno were deeply involved along with at least ten other officials. McQueary was not involved in the coverup. But a lot of heads will roll. That is why Michael Isikoff, one of the leading investigative journalists in the country, is covering this personally. There are a lot more shoes yet to drop and everyone is waiting to see what comes out in this trial...

Bruce-308647

McQueary had NO WAY of knowing if anything was being done, because investigations of this type are normally conducted very quietly for the sake of everyone involved.

McQueary had no way of knowing if anything was done. So for the next 10+ years while Jerry Sandusky was still attending Penn State football games, holding 2nd Mile charity events on or near campus, using football facilities, etc. etc. Mike McQueary was to assume there was an investigation.

I don't think so.

The way I read the situation is McQueary was a 22 year old kid in his first job. He just saw something that that freaked, disgusted, and scared him all at once. He reported what he saw to who he thought was a honorable man, Joe Paterno, and may have felt his livelihood was in jeopardy if he pushed the issue.

You have a new threat to use against misbehavior though - "stop doing that or I'll send you to Sandusky's basement..."

McQueary was NOT 22 years old. He was 28. He was a man not a kid.

@Bruce, so you must also support Paterno. HE told HIS boss...so his duty was fulfilled too, huh?

OK. Bottom line, he reported it to his immediate superior, Joe Paterno. There is nothing about Joe Paterno that says he was an honorable man. He was an icon, not a mortal man to the people of "Happy Valley". He was above the law, university regulations in his and everyone else's minds. Don't buy into this? The analogy is buttressed by actions of some of our "public servants" in Washignton DC who serve 30,40 years in one job reelected by their hypnotized constituents. And boy, do they have some skeletons in their closets . Speaking of closets, will Jerry Sandusky be proven to be a gay pedophile?? Let's only hope so. An animal such as him, deserves to be treated like an animal. And he's under "house arrest"? Unbelievable.

I agree....I think Sandusky should be be made to walk in prison backwards, A$$ first so he can see what it felt like when he molested his victims. Justice will be served one way or the other. And I have a feeling justice will be served in prison after he is convicted. Let's let Bubba take care of him....over and over and over again!

Agreed...but I would have someone cut off his privates in front of the people he abused. Then off to solitary without any human contact until he dies....he won't even be able to play with himself let alone anyone else.

He is one sick son of a b----.

McQueary was in his late 20's when he saw the boy in the shower, hardly a kid. He was born in 1975, and the shower scene was in 2001, so that made him 26 years old at that time. Old enough to know better.

I find him very responsible because he didn't do anything to help that kid. To this day no one knows who that was. Maybe Sandusky killed him since he knew that McQueary had saw him. Maybe he got rid of the evidence before the cops come knocking on his door in a few hours. A knock that never came because McQueary never called the cops. It wasn't until a week later that the Administrators asked up what was going on. Plenty of time to hide anything related to the kid, or to deny he ever existed.

Naaaaaaa, I think this piece of $h!t should go to the executioner!

So McQueary gets a pass but folks are pissed about Paterno? god, you people are stupid. Paterno did not see it with his own eyes, McQueary did.

They should jail his wife to!!! She had to know.............

well for all of you who question Macqueary's testimony and his actions on the incedent you need to walk a mile in his shoes.. I doubt any of you had a higher level of matureity at that age, or dealt with MASS confusion any better.. just thoughts not a jab at anyone..

I am retired and after reading @oldtimers comment yesterday..I cried uncontrolably as I remember that day in 1954 when I was raped by the older boy down the street..I felt the need for revenge , unfortunately for me he has passed.. my body was consumed with the anger, shame embarassment and all that goes with that.. I was threatened by this boy so needless to say I continued for about 3 years when he finally left the area for the service..

there was no real help for me so I just put it away.. there are times when the thoughts pop up but nothing like yesterday.. yesterday I was 14 again and it was happening all over again and agaain

I thi9nk about all these boys who have been molested by priests and like me will never have closure..unless u r a victim or know a victim you have no idea what an impact it has on your life.. for those brave young men who testify my hat is off to you. I would never have been able to do that..I know it's not much to you young men THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart..

gotta stop now before my computer shorts from the tears

thanks for reading this

Not only is Sandusky a grotesque human being who should by default be fried in the electric chair (it's beyond me why pedophiles aren't assassinated one by one anyway), but McQueary does NOT get a free pass! All of you who say that his reaction is understandable, that he was in shock is hogwash (to be polite)! So you are essentially saying that if you walked into a locker room and saw a 10 year old, YES A 10 YEAR OLD getting raped and you knew the coaches kids and parents you'd walk away????!!!!! That's abhorrent, please tell me that you are not such a person or I will lose all faith in the human race. I would NEVER, EVER have left that 10 year old in that locker room regardless of the circumstances. Even if it was blatantly obvious that I could possibly lose my life trying to help that child, I would have taken my chances anyway!! How could you live with yourself knowing that you left a 10 year old defenseless, petrified, innocent little boy to be raped by an ugly, disgusting, putrid human being!!! Ugh what a bunch of sick b*****rds, all of them!! They should all be strung up!

I am totally with you on this, Chicagogal! ANYONE who puts themselves first before the rape of a child is as guilty in my book as the actual perpetrator. He should have attacked Sandusky right then and there to protect that child and then immediately called police. If he had, Sandusky may not have left a longer trail of victims to hide in shame. If hell does exist, may Sandusky be very first in line.

There is no justice in anything anywhere.

Occupy Everything.

this sandusky is a sick person and should rot in prison,in fact i hope he gets his own taste of medicine in prison,by a big black looking football player,he is a devil !

Sir, I knew John Holmes. John Holmes was a friend of mine. You Sir are NO JOOOOHNNNNNNN HOLMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEES!

maxgiver: I hope you found your own way to deal with the scars this left on your soul. I'm sure that in 1954 there would have been some way that you would have been blamed, it does still happen today (Sandusky's lawyers claiming the victims just want money.)

I hope you are able to have a normal, healthy relationship with the person of your choice and the rest of your family.

Always remember:

you did nothing wrong, you are loved;

you did nothing wrong, you are loved;

you did nothing wrong, you are loved.

Just to play Devils Advocate for a moment. Why do we believe these accusers? Someone files a lawsuit and someone else suddenly remembers something they saw in the shower but didn't stop or tell anyone about for years. I was molested. I told everyone. No one believed me because my abuser was such a nice man, captain of industry and Deacon at the church. I was a bad child just looking for attention. 8 yrs old 1962. Where would I have gotten specific details? Bad girl. Never lived it down. So please tell me why these men who come forward years after are believed without question?

Why do we believe the accusers? Because their accusations are corroborated by multiple witnesses. The witness DID report the action right away. He reported it to Coach Paterno the next day.

Are you paying attention at all?

How many witnesses? And in what context? Years after the supposed incidents? No one was able to break through to leak out to the real cops until 20+ years later? And nothing sounds fishy about that to you?

I will reinstate that I am not for or against one side or the other, since there has yet to be anything provided to the court other than circumstantial evidence, which encompasses the verbal accusations after many years have passed. Not saying a crime should go unpunished, but keep in mind that the supposed "child-killer" Casey Anthony was set free because of no hard evidence against her. In other words, IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, A PERSON (AS RECOGNIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT) IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW.

It is quite possible that Sandusky is everything his accusers say he is. But don't focus on accusations, and then consequently your feelings about the accusations, as that is all they are. Focus on the facts. Facts are based on real, conclusive evidence.

Just as with the Casey Anthony trial, there is no real conclusive evidence that Sandusky did anything wrong. There is no evidence of DNA associated with the supposed victims, no record of sexual abuse from a hospital or other medical treatment facility (even if McQueary told his dad about what he saw, then that holds his dad just as accountable for not reporting the incident the same as Paterno, doesn't it?).

Now that Paterno is dead, who can really hold him accountable one way or the other? Let's also look at Sandusky's family - usually, if he was a boy-rapist, then why isn't it that no family member was ever attacked, at least not reported then or now? If he did do such a deed, this would be their golden opportunity to tell it. Statistics reflect that this should have been the case. So why is no one from the Sandusky family accusing Jerry?

Once again, what bothers me most about such cases, is the lack of real evidence. I am all for convicting those that are proven beyond a reasonable doubt for crimes committed; however, common sense must take precedence concerning unfounded testimony over such a period of time, which alludes to mischief on the accuser's part. Don't under-estimate the power of greed. To put it another way, if I was down on my luck, and I happened to be a recipient of the charitable organization in question during that time (and now I am an adult that needs $$$), could you blame me for not wanting to take a chance on getting a million-dollar settlement, if given the chance, even if it meant telling a story to the judge and jury?

Do I hope that Sandusky is convicted? If there is the proof to do so, yes. So far, I am not convinced. Do I think that Casey Anthony killed her daughter? From the evidence that was provided to the court, I thought so, but obviously there was not enough beyond "a reasonable doubt", even though I thought there was, the court made a different decision. I don't agree with it, but that is our judiciary system. It isn't perfect, but it is the best we have to date.

If the child were a country club kid being raped in the shower McQueary would not have just slammed a door so he wouldn't have to see it anymore and then go home to call daddy to see what he should do. He would have stopped it and called police, it seems everyone who knew about this perverts molestation of boys didn't care because they were underprivileged kids whom they didn't have to face their parents at the fancy dinners and golf outings. He knew which boys he could control, ones who were not used to getting great gifts and traveling by planes and most of all the attention of a man whom many probably didn't get from their father. If Penn didn't think it were true then why would they tell him to not bring the boys to the locker room anymore, guess they didn't care if he did it just don't do it under their roof. They and his family all should be held accountable and this puke should never see be outside an electric fence again. I find it funny how his big mouthed lawyer gets all perplexed over the testimony, guess the perv is paying big bucks to a lawyer who didn't do his homework.

@Bruce, so you must also support Paterno. HE told HIS boss...so his duty was fulfilled too, huh?

No, you are wrong. I DO believe Joe Paterno dropped the ball and should have insisted that something be done because he was the most powerful person at Penn State and had nothing to fear from anyone, unlike the assistant coach who could have been swept aside in an instant by any number of people. Joe may have gotten some very bad advice from other powerful people around him and believed that it was in the best interest of the university and the football program to keep up clean appearances, but he was CLEARLY in the wrong. I put a LOT of the blame for the coverup on him, mainly because he is the one guy at PSU that everyone felt they could always count on to do the right thing in every situation.

mo, no one believed you in 1962 because there was no way to fight the powers that were in control back then. Now a days, we ALL know that there are scum bags like this on the loose.

Back then, who would ever expect a person that preached the word of God would be such a sinner? NOW WE ALL know better and to those that were children when attacked, I thank you for stepping forward.

Best to you mo and don't be too harsh on those that didn't believe you, they were probably just ignorant and or stupid.

Renegade007...A jury of so called average people didn't believe McQueary. It is a miracle they believed 45 charges. McQueary's testamony didn't help. He saw Sandusky behind the 10 year old, and heard rythmatic sounds. But the jury didn't believe it.....

I'll gladly read the article that details how Sandusky died in prison (hopefully violently).

The problem is that most pedophiles don't believe or think that they are in the wrong with anything. I really doubt Sandusky will ever admit to the truth or come clean with anything he's done. As much as a confession would be nice, we have to do things the difficult way in order for the truth to come out about what happens between pedophiles and their victims.

If the kids can suffer through this, with NO help from the adults and muster the courage to speak up and stand up and tell the truth as adults and not keep this sick f**k's & sick University's secrets anymore....I can read the testimony and send supportive thoughts their way. THis is the worst kind of sexual offender, a fixated, seducing, male on male, well socialized perp, who is in a powerful position with total, unimpeded access to vulnerable kids. It should make you, and everyone sick!

I'd rather read the article where his corpse is found, staked out on the beach, after a few weeks of being eaten alive by the sandcrabs and seagulls.

Short of that, a 10 year sentence, without food or water, would be nice.

There's a reason the term "Cruel and Unusual Punishment" was invented. So that the punishment would fit the crime. Sadly however, this country has fallen to the point where animals like Sandusky will get off with only 10-20 years of room & board at taxpayers expense.

PatIowa, I'm a bit confused by the "male on male" phrase. Do you feel these crimes are less severe if it's male on female or female on male?

People like him live in this fantasy world where they didn't do anything wrong. The rest of us understand the soul destroying nature of his acts but he doesn't. All I can say to the victims is you did nothing wrong and God and I love you. Patlowa take sex out of it rape and molestation is power. It is the power of one person over another. It is wrong to do it to anyone.

Can anyone explain why defendants always carry a mountain of notebooks and papers into the courtroom??? They have lawyers. Are they trying to look "professional"? Then they get to court and never read them or use them. In Sandusky's case, he may be carrying his "little black book" with boys' names on them. He has violated so many children, even he can't recall the crimes' dates and keep his victims straight! Will this gay pedophile meet justice? Many of the jurors are Penn State fans. This trial needed to be tried in a different venue. The judge erred on this aspect of proceedings right from the get-go. Having the trial in Bellefonte, PA is an egregious error on the part of the judge. The monster is guilty as a fox in a chicken house. In fact, here is an excerpt from a little known interview Bob Costas did with Mr. Fox.

Costas: "Good evening. Mr. Fox are you attracted to chickens; as a source of food?"

Mr. Fox: "Am I attracted to chickens as a source of food................well, I do enjoy the chickens, they are fun to be around.........but am I attracted to them as a source of food? Absoulutely not. I would never do anything to harm a chicken. They are the future of poultry, eating them would be just wrong."

Costas: "How do you reconcile the fact that some people have seen you exitnig the hen house with blood on your face, and willing to testify to that in court ?"

Mr. Fox: "Bob, you can check my medical records to see that I am a border line hemophiliac, I am prone to getting nosebleeds quite often.

Costas: "So that is a no?"

Mr. Fox: "Absolutey. Never happened, Bob"

Costas: "Well folks, thanks for tuning in. Be sure to be here for the next Rock Center with Brian Williams. Good night."

Agreed. No amount of money can take away those painful memories Sandusky has made for these men.

I disagree, a couple would for those Penn State bucks especially if it's proven they knew and did nothing to stop it. Those settlements will be enormous. But not 10 of them, one could be questioned, but 10 and a grown man who also witnessed it.

I still think the wife should be held to the flame as well. All this business going on in the basement and she had no idea, not believable.

I can only imagine they are going to trial because there is no offer on the table that doesn't involve him spending the rest of his life behind bars.

I agree! The wife and McQueary both should be held accountable.

The wife is either blind, crazy or a rapist too. What an ungodly human being this woman is. She knew whatever her husband was doing in the basement with little boys couldn't have been okay.

McQueary both should be held accountable.

He should have more vigorously pursued his reports of Sandusky's abuse to the administration, but really, he did all that was legally expected of him. He reported it to the bosses, who in turn reported it to campus police. From there, McQueary had a reasonable expectation that an investigation would be undertaken. However, Paterno and the college admin and police covered the whole thing up to prevent damage to the program's reputation and finances. McQueary isn't the one who should be blamed for that; that was all Paterno and his cronies.

@Renegade007.....what the hell does Macs wife have to do with this??? Mac did EVERYTHING he should have...get off it!!

pretty sure renegade was referring to Sandusky's wife who has been critisized for doing nothing and claiming she knew nothing when these boys were being sexually assaulted in her basement for years.

I think Sandusky's wife was in denial and truly believed there was nothing going on because her reality would not let her face the truth.

Sandusky will NEVER admit to it. He will probably try to kill himself. Most cowards take that way out. He knows he doesn't want to go to prison. They don't take kindly to pedophiles in prison. I hope these men can get this out and move on with their lives.

I thought I read in past articles that victim's testified that they cried out for help when these things happened in the Sandusky home .... the wife knew what was going on and should be held accountable.

Sandusky's wife needs to be strung up right along side her POS husband! It was noted that one of the kids cried out for help in his basement.....and she did nothing. She is as guilty as he is!

If the dad from Shiner Tx had been there, Sandusky would not have been able to do this for so many years.The poor boys that were too scared to do or say anything. They had no one to stand up for them.The abuse will haunt them and effect their lives for a long time.(and has been) They all need counseling to over come the horror done to them.

In another article, I read where Sandusky's wife walked in on him having sex with a boy. The article didn't state her reaction. She should have called the police and McQueary should have tackled him in the shower to break it up and called the police.... not Paterno, and not his father, but the police. He could have been stopped long ago, so I feel like the pain of the witnesses should also ride on the wife and McQueary.

Well I guess people in Pennslyvania are just more civilized than Texans. Once that guy is done with being questioned I think most of us would like to throw a parade for him.

I think all the finger pointing needs to stop with Sandusky. He's the pedophile. Everyone else is an innocent bystander. Although I do agree that McQueary should have done something immediately instead of consulting his father and dealing with it the next day. And the wife? Probably a dumb blond.

AreYouBuyingThis?

@Renegade007.....what the hell does Macs wife have to do with this??? Mac did EVERYTHING he should have...get off it!!

Sandusky's wh*re he was married to knew all about it for years, if not decades. She even witnessed it, yet she did nothing. She deserves to have terrible, horrible things done to her. I'd describe what they should be, but I'd get banned from newsvine. Everyone, use your imagination about what should be done to this enabling piece of worthless female garbage. She had children, for Pete's sake, and she let this happen to other children because she wanted to get what she could for herself by "standing by her man."

At least I hope she can never show her face in public ever again, and has lost all her friends, and will now be a lonely, depressed suicidal recluse in her comfy home. Maybe, some windy night, when she's all alone, someone will break into her home and spend hours, well, I can't say - I'd be banned from newsvine. Use your imagination.

Sandusky is a casebook classic perpetrating pedophile. You could write a book on Sandusky and his actions that could teach parents how to better protect their children from men like Sandusky. Sandusky’s wife is also a classic pedophiles wife; “the better you, than me attitude, turning a blinds eye to the whole thing, only to claim when he gets caught, that she had no clue as to what was happening in her own home”. Shame on Penn State for putting their athletic program ahead of children!!!!!!! There are so many people that could of stopped this a very, very long time ago. Someone needs to write the book so that the lame people can learn from this catastrophic event. These young men are true hero’s for finally letting everyone know that true evil was proudly walking around Penn State.

Kim.

The one kid even told his guidance counselor and was told that it simply wasn't possible, Jerry would never do that. From the high ups at the school, to the head coach, to so many other people, all with massive failures as human beings who put their uncomfortableness with getting involved or their school before little boys. Penn State has no moral compass, from top to bottom.

No book can teach people to act like human beings or to put children first. Either you have it, or as in the case of everyone involved at Penn State, you don't.

What I don't understand, is the NCAA puts schools and players on probation over sneakers and yet they have been dead silent about a football program that did nothing to keep little boys from being raped by one of their coaches. That school's football team should be indefinitely suspended to let all other programs know, they will not put up with this kind of BS.

I'm with you. I can't imagine how the jurors can sit there an listen to the testimony. I think I'd be a basket case after the trial is over.

Scott, that is incredible that a HIGH SCHOOL GUIDANCE COUNSELOR would say that!!! Penn State was basically a cult that everyone was hypnotized to respect the football and anyone associated with it.

Scott

Spanier, Curley and Shultz no longer hold their positions...Joe Pa was fired over the phone.

http://articles.philly.com/2012-06-12/news/32196120_1_e-mails-perjury-charges-investigators

Anyone in the schools administration who failed to act according to law should be dismissed...that includes the Board of Trustees. I understand what you're saying about the football program, but...the players (or students) are not responsible for what happened to these young men.

cms5, the players are not responsible but there is/was a culture at the school where the football gods reigned supreme and that is what needs to end. Current players could transfer to other schools and the football program be placed on suspension for a number of years to put all coaches, staff, faculty, administration and fans on notice that there are some things more important than football - or any other sport.

Wisconsin Voter

I agree that the well-being and welfare of one child is far more important than any legendary athletic program.

However, where do you draw the line at who must suffer the consequences? Those football gods that reigned supreme and thought more of Sandusky and their almighty football program are no longer there. Must each student bear the burdens of those fallen gods who no longer care about Penn State or their athletic programs? Is Penn State the only school that puts their athletic programs first?

Wisconsin, I think all college football should be banned. It has undermined public higher education by diverting funds that should be used for scholarships to the football program which is nothing more than the farm program for the NFL. Let the NFL set up and pay for their own farm teams. Beyond that at many schools like Penn State those athletes get a free education and a place at the school that could be used for someone who will make a difference academically. My daughter was recruited out of HS to a big 10 school for academics with a substantial scholarship. After attending the President's picnic on the first day of school, she contacted another university where she had been accepted and arranged to transfer because as she told me, the school had no interests in academics, only in football and her scholarship was just given to improve their enrollment numbers of persons with great ACT/SAT scores and high GPAs. It was intended to cover for all the underperforming student athletes. The President did not welcome any of those brought to that school under academic scholarships only those with athletic scholarships. At 18 years old she knew better than to stay there as a front for the football program.

It is that attitude toward 'student' athletes that allows the Sandusky's of the world to exist undetected and undeterred because the entire school establishment is beholden to the football program and the dollars it brings in from TV and alumni. I say eliminate it and let people be proud of their alma maters for the education they received, not because of their sports teams' records.

While it is absolutely stomach turning to hear the details of the accusations, we must.

That's the only way dirty, filthy pigs who rape children can be stopped.

Silence is the closest ally of the child rapist.

cms5, I agree that the football team should be disbanded for a period of YEARS. If the students are only there to play football, then the reason for them going there is wrong to begin with.

I say that those that go to any games put on by this school should be ashamed of themselves. The reason that this POS got away for so long was because of the power of the sport and the money behind it.

Even McQueary tried to report to everyone he could and nothing happened. Should he have gone to the Press and insured that he would never get a job over a "he said, she said" allegation? Given that Sandusky appeared to be untouchable, could he have been satisfied that by blowing the whistle as loud as he did, that what he saw would now stop as he put Sandusky on "Notice" to not do again what he had seen one time? Believe me, I have stood up for doing right and was slapped down and it cost me dearly...so what was McQueary to do? When the story broke, he came forward and that was brave as well.

The point is, Penn State Football shoud die for a long time.

No, zeeosix. Shooting him would be letting him off easy. In prison, child molesters are among the lowest and are treated accordingly. Put him there where he'll get what he deserves.

Tom - I'm afraid he would be treated as a high profile target in general population and will be kept segregated. He will most likely be safe and comfortable.

I agree. concerned, so execution as quickly as possible after the conviction is the only good answer for this scum of the earth.

Dasvet - I disagree. He needs to live a long life in prision. Death would be a blessing to him. I hope he gets life and lives for a 1000 years staring at the same wall day after day after day.

And a homosexual perversion at that.

No self repecting perv inmate is going to stick it in Sandusky's butt. He's old and disgusting. Any inmate that would do it would be young enough to be Sandusky's grandson. He would probably like that.

@concernedone, you mean like they put Dahmer in protective custody? How did that work out for him? If the inmates want to get at him, they will get at him.

@BP the grape, you're right, they won't use any part of their own bodies to stick it in Sandusky's butt. That is what dumbells and broomsticks are for. He will get his.

No. Shooting him would be too easy for him. What he REALLY needs is life in prison. He should be housed in the general prison population. No isolationist cell. The other inmates have a semblance of scruples. They hate "tree jumpers" (prison slang for child molesters). With his penchant for gay sex, Sandusky might even enjoy prison. However, he will get his a** kicked weekly. What can you do with a monster like this? Uhhhh, allow him be under house arrest like he is now? Why isn't he already incarcerated NOW?? Try money. These PSU people have decades with Penn State, any coaches involved with the football program are paid exorbitant salaries. Just throw this monster in jail, not house arrest!

...by one/all of his victims! With a doctor onhand to stop the bleeding (but without any anesthetic, etc). This man needs to SUFFER.

I agree! In fact I read recently that countries that use castration as a penalty for rapists reported drastic reduction in repeat offender rates. I'm curious about what the fallout will be if/when he's found guilty. Obviously he needs locked away indefinitely but others will have to answer to how this was all swept under the rug for a decade.

You can use iodized salt to stop the bleeding.

Maybe by "stump-hanging", if any of you remember how that goes. :D

You split a tree stump, pry it open long enough to dangle his stuff in the split, then let it snap shut on him. Set the stump on fire, and hand him a knife. He can either let it burn off or cut it off.

You don't get it dinsmo, rape isn't about sex...it's about power. Guys like Sandusky are predators and abusers, whether they have their balls or not, they live to abuse people they feel are weaker than them...that continues even after castration.

I agree, but pedophilia is in the mind, not the nads. He should be tortured, daily, mentally, physically, so he can have some sort of idea what he put his victims through. You know, this is also going on now, somewhere else, many places, and it sickens me to my core. Maybe cut off a limb, when it heals, cut off another, and so on, then pop his eyes out, and then cut his tounge out, then, when he can take no more, skin that bastard alive and pour gasoline on him and torch him!

Just need a hot knife to cauterize as you go.

I am thinking jail MIGHT be heaven for him though---all the rapes and stuff that go on in there!!lol

He is a pig --anyone involved in this is a pig --the lawyers also -- there is not enough money in the world to let me defend this sick gross ugly pig-- and anyone that says these young men are doing it for money --they are sick--also --first they have abused my this guy--if they didnt have a good family life -and they trusted this man-- and this is what he does to them??? These young men are heroes and deserve our respect --and by god if they get money --they should they will have years of counseling to get over this -- all involved should rot in hell! and i will say one thing if that was my son-i would be on trial -- in fact if i would have walked in on that -- i would have grabbed whatever i could and knock the crap out of him------

I still believe a prompt execution is the best route. He will be isolated in prison, and as weird as he is, he may well enjoy the time. Off the face of earth means we don't have to worry about how much he costs, or some idiot from the ACLU gets him out of prison on some stupid technicality.

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"I am thinking jail MIGHT be heaven for him though---all the rapes and stuff that go on in there!!lol"

I agree. Rather than being a victim, he'd be in hawg heaven, forcing himself on the other inmates, especially the younger ones.

despite all the jail rape fantasies everyone likes to write about for sandusky, he will likely spend his prison time in protective custody.

Very true, Kim.

While I defend anyone and everyone's right to a trial by a jury of their peers, it seems to me that Sandusky and his attorneys are torturing these young men all over again by making them appear and face him to tell of the horrors he committed. For that there should be no forgiveness and an increase in any penalty assigned to him. If these men were still children, they would have been allowed to testify in private without having to face him. To further their humiliation the judge allowing their names to be used and potentially published is horrendous. I will agree with an earlier poster that Sandusky probably chose to go to trial because there was no palatable offer on the table, but his attorneys' use of intimidation and bullying as a cross examination method is despicable. These men are hoping that at least one juror will be persuaded that somehow one of these troubled boys was partially to blame and that will be a mitigating factor not only in the criminal proceedings but in the civil proceedings as well. Sandusky chose his victims well. Children without other resources for protection. A society that had already deemed them 'troubled'. That to me is the most disgusting part. That he started this 'charity' to help 'troubled' boys because it gave him nearly unlimited access to boys who couldn't speak out or defend themselves. And if they did who would believe them?

@Kim-1577662, as I posted in another comment's thread, "protective custody" is only and obstacle, not a barrier. Just ask Dahmer who was in "protective custody." No matter what the prison guards do, the prisoners will find a way to welcome him to their jungle. Chances are, the guards will be complicit in it.

That's OK 23 hours a day in a cell alone looking at the walls.

Even if it's a few charges, it will have saved other little boys.

As an adult, I find these acts committed against children to be horrendous. I can only imagine how these young men must feel having to relay to a room full of strangers, and Sandusky and family, what exactly went on in the house of someone who was such a respected member of the community.

As someone who was molested himself, there should be NO statue of limitations. Those of us have our reasons for keeping it quiet, but when someone finally blows the whistle on these criminals, it makes it easier for those of us who kept it quiet all these years due to shame, family, etc.

Unfortunately, Sandusky thinks he's innocent. That's why he's going to take the stand...he's certain that his standing with Penn State, The Second Mile and the community is still stellar. Nobody is going to believe that he actually did anything to these young men. His wife doesn't...his children don't...so, if he can convince them...he can convince the world.

I am looking forward to him being on the stand in court. He will reveal the truth -- whether that is his intention or not. He has already admitted to taking a shower with a kid. That alone should be a crime. WHO DOES THAT?

I watched the Costas interview he did and my Creep Meter pegged. If he's like that on the stand...the entire jury may become ill.

I think he must be getting his last thrills from getting to relive each moment as the poor victims have to tell what happened to them....

I agree with my fellow Scrantonian...I wish Sandusky's legal team would urge him to do the right thing. They can't possibly believe he is innocent.

@Vetwife, I completely agree. I was thinking the same thing, and envisioning the opening scene from The Devil's Advocate with Al Pacino where the defendant was getting off listening to the victim's testimony. Disgusting.

He gets off there no problem He took one kid to the Alamo Bowl. It will be welcome to Huntsville S.andusky

Just because one person lied in a completely different case, doesn't mean that anyone in this situation is lying at all. And if you want to talk statistics, well, odds are that that this Sandusky Cerote victimized more than just 10 boys. The probability is that a lot of victims refused to testify, cooperate or even admit anything happened to them. I have kids, and the mere thought makes me lose my mind so I don't know how this guy didn't end up with his guts ripped out by the side of his own curb.

That teenager was led by her parents. A child cannot file criminal charges nor can they file a law suit. One would need to hear what her parents have to say about the entire situation with Brian Banks.

If you noticed...Sandusky's victims didn't have their fathers in their lives. There's no doubt that if he chose a boy and that boy had a Dad around...Sandusky would choose another boy to victimize.

Robbie, this behavior has been going on for years. The guy was expected to take over as head coach and suddenly was no longer on the staff. This pervert targeted a certain age and had a way of finding new victims through his foundation; it all looked fine - only it wasn't.

@Robbie,

Your thought is lacking in logic. There is absolutely no way that a victim can profit directly from a criminal trial except by compensation or real damages from a victim's compensation fund, something that Pennsylvania does not have.

Penn State (and all the officials so far named) have sovereign immunity. That means that Penn Strate cannot be sued at all unless the State gives its permission first. It also means that all the Penn State employees, Spanier, Paterno, et al, cannot be sued if the coverup was done in the course of their duties as Penn State employees, which no one is contesting.

Depending on what evidence comes out at trial, it is likely that Penn State will seek some sort of accomodation and settlement with the victims rather that giving up sovereign immunity and allowing themselves to be sued in open court. The e-mails so far are very damning of the officials involved. Add what comes out of this trial with the e-mails already disclosed and the state will likely seek to settle no only with this 10 victims, but potentially as many as 200 who did not present in court because of the judge's decision to make public the names and addresses of the victims instead of having their testimony ex camera and having the records sealed.

But to say that the victims are in it for financial gain is just bullcrap. If a person wanted that, he would just lie low for the criminal trial and then use the findings from the criminal trial to sue the university. In that way, he would leave the university guessing as to the relative power of his allegations and testimony and would most likely get a larger settlement.

A settlement does not mean that the person is in it for financial gain. It simply means that the university (and state) are protecting their interests and trying to get out of the situation as cheaply as possible. Personally, I would like to see Penn State receive a 10-year NCAA 100% scholarship sanction and a 5-year conference game sanction. This is generally called the NCAA "death sentence." There has gotten to be so much money in semi-professional college sports that it attracts corruption like a magnet.

There is other evidence besides the victim testimony. First, there is the McQueary eyewitness account. He has gained nothing (as should be ) from his involvement in this case. There are letters written by Sandusky to the victims. There are non-victim eyewitnesses to inappropriate touching. There are damning emails between PSU employees that show they knew Sandusky had a "kid problem".

OML Chris...again with this sovereign immunity crap. You need to READ the law and the history on sovereign immunity because you have NO clue what you're rambling on about. Sovereign immunity would NOT be upheld by any court in this matter so STOP with it already. Geeeez

Chris...All the victims have to do is bring civil charges against Sandusky after he is tried. The level of proof is less and the damages are granted in $$$$. Their attorneys will and some already have filed civil suits that are based on a preponerance of evidence rather than beyond a shadow of a doubt. They will file against the school and his boy's club as well as Sandusky....Maybe, even against certain individuals they believe were culpable. There is money to be had in this case--I just happen to believe that the victims deserve every dime of whatever they can get. He harmed these boys and the school did nothing to stop the harm even though they were aware of his "propenisities." If they get some money, good for them. If they don't--well, at least one pedophile may be off the streets.

BTW...I agree that he will never admit to molesting the boys because he has convinced himself that he was showing them love and attention and they like the activity....Some pedophiles have repeatedly said that the child was flirting with them and wanted to have sex--they were referring to 5 year olds. Very common rationalization and hard to break. His wife should know by now, even if she didn't know then. So should his kids. I don't see how they can possibly believe his lies after such gut wrenching testimony. Apparently, he was a master at grooming and choosing his victims--and must have thought he had the power to get away with it. What a piece of work!!!

A "relationship" means "the way in which two or more concepts, objects, or people are connected, or the state of being connected." It in no way means that the relationship is consensual. MSNBC is using the word properly and it is only your ignorance of the meaning of the word that makes it sound otherwise.

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Intercourse, literally, means dealings or communications between persons or groups but when you hear that word a "conversation" is not what pops into your mind!

Chris, Mae is right. This was not a "relationship" in any sense of any type of definition no matter what type of spin you put on it. There is no such thing as a "sexual 'relationship'" between an adult and a minor. Any type of "relationship" in any sense also implies a consensual act between two parties. Rape is not consensual ergo, this was not a relationship. MSNBC needs to stop putting a soft spin on this and call it for what it is: RAPE - oh ahem, pardon me, "alleged" rape.

You have to be of English or French descent! The Guillotine or Ax wouldn't be justice. You need a Salvadoran to execute Sadunsky, I refuse to call him, guy or person...Sandusky to me is now a bad word to use instead of the S#IT word.

I agree she should be held accountable as well. and it was because the young man was poor those bastards all need to rot in hell

He has no manhood.