Two parents from a Chicago suburb are in custody after leaving their children tied up and blindfolded in the parking lot of a Walmart in Lawrence, Kan., police said.

In Chicago this may be the norm but in other states, they lock you up for this..

Silence is Golden but duck tape is Silver.

By Daily Mail Reporter
UPDATED: 16:50 EST, 1 December 2011

A gay couple who adopted nine boys have been accused of sexually assaulting two of the children

Abuse can come from any type of person.

How often do you hear about a little girl who is kidnapped and murdered by a man?

How often do you hear about a little boy who is kidnapped and murdered by a man?

Maybe the "parents" ARE the pervs? I wonder if they are the biological parents for sure? It wouldn't surprise me to find out later that the kids weren't really theirs, that they had been kidnapped from someone else! If not, I wish they knew a thing or two about birth control, because if you don't know anything about how to be a good parent you should definitely know how to not become one...

Of coarse it was f^cking Wal-Mart. Where else would it be ?

dear god we are just getting worse and worse as a society

I'm trying to imagine some reason for all of this --- but I can't. It just eludes my thoughts.

Well, being as they are from Chicago, at least they didn't shoot them because the weather was too hot. I guess when it cools down, they will only tie you up at a Walmart.

*lynseypug* WTH does sexual preference have to do with ANY of this? Please go stand on your soap box and peddle your thoughts somewhere else that contains related subject matter. *eyeroll*

Nice to know these are the kinds of scum Walmart attracts! First it's a mom trying to sell her baby here in our lovely town in CA, then the meth makers in the restrooms, now this! UGH! And these idiots have three other kids?? Scums like this shouldn't be allowed to breed!!

While I have never been a believer in forced sterlization of people it's getting more and more evident that some people just shouldn't be allowed to breed.

I think a Minimum IQ level and Psychological evaluation needs to be done.

So true, PAV, they will get their kids back... because we must "keep the family together" (besides, they

aren't finished abusing and warping their minds).

Jeepgal66 (#1.12): You can add the Walmart where I live to the list, where a guy was in a suicidal standoff with police yesterday evening...

Did anyone else catch the Officers comment on the video about buying the younger child diapers? The younger child is 5. That scares the bejeebers out of me. Where these little ones disabled or handicapped on top of abused and neglected? Somehow this just makes it worse.

Somebody help me, please. What the he!! is Bundgaard talking about? Or is he just someone off his meds?

Well, this bungaard person does state that they are confused! LOL I tried very hard to make the rant coherent but I gave up after a few sentences.

Oh dear, it made sense to me. His english may be imprecise, but his meaning was clear. He says essentially that it's better the kids were on a family trip than parked in front of the TV, that the cops scared the kids and are generally threatening, and then he wondered whether the political bent of the parents was relevant. Finally, he hinted that the lack of info in the story from the reporter would never fly for him in his job. I didn't find it that hard to translate. I'm not sure I agree entirely with him, but no need to be nasty to the man.

Bunman you are truly one sick person. The cops rescued these kids you fruitcake. If daddy can't follow simple directions then he's lucky he just got tased, sounds like he should be shot and save the kids from having to be possibly returned to an abuser. Your hatred of police is so noted and the reason for it I'm sure is because you also can't stay out of trouble and do what you are told.

The article did state

Three other children, ages 12, 13 and 15, were inside the vehicle

I am wondering if while mom and dad were inside attempting to get the things they needed, if those older 3 siblings thought they would have some "fun" and tied up/blindfolded the little ones.

Although the oldest one at 15 was more than old enough to "babysit" his/her siblings for the time it took the parents to go into Walmart, they had been on a long drive, were most likely bored and irritable, still had a long way to go to AZ and didnt want to deal with the 2 youngest siblings qho were most likely cranky from the trip at that point.

I believe the 3 older kids did it ... and Mom and Dad are the ones in trouble.

Sorry, kids, ages 12, 13 and 15 are indeed old enough to wait in a car and old enough to watch out for 2 younger siblings ... just not while travelling to the point of fustration in a car having issues while only half way, if that much, to their vacation destination.

I wonder if the family will be missing a wedding thanks to the teens.

Those same 3 teens probably thought it was funny doing it ... and yes, the 12 yr old (and who knows how many months) is indeed a teen.

ps: the key to my assumption is that the woman who called only saw 1 child, the boy, yet when the police arrived, 2 were out there. The parents were most likely getting what they needed to attend to their car crisis and what the kids needed when 1 kid tied up and blindfolded became 2, and 1 boy became a girl and boy.

That is probably why they refused to get out of the car .... they probably thought they were in trouble big time.

You make a statement that could be very true.

Denny Crane, I'm with you! WTF

Seriously, you are worried about some perv when the kids were found like that? Wow. And the other kids (teens) are sitting in the vehicle while the two youngest are outside. I would be worried about someone hitting the kids. And recycled, you are right, it may have been the older ones having fun with the younger ones.

*sigh* we had the "You never hear about gay parents doing this" comment. Now where is the "must be Bush's/Obama's fault!" comment?

Abuse doesn't come from any kind of a person... Abuse comes from a sick minded person... And especially abuse of children... They should lose custody of these children, and he should spend a lot of time in jail with Bubba..

Hello...they are Hispanic [Gomez] and most likely illegal. Any culture that deals with whole towns being wiped out by drug cartels, piles of mutilated bodies dumped on the side of the road, hundreds of women missing and dead in Juarez and celebrates a holiday 'Day of the Dead' is going to have a different world view than the average American. This is not racial stereotyping either for all those politically correct idiots out there, its a particular culture's mores and thank God its not ours.

mjolnira, I got 9 words in to your post, and that told me nothing you said after that had any educational value.

stay in school

Here, in my effort to make you feel completely stupid and love every second of it, here is a link showing both their pictures. She look "illegal" to you?

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/gomez-northlake-kids-blindfolded-walmart-doomsday-159088065.html

lol

The pictures weren't included in the article and he could be illegal, you never know. Hell she could even be your relative. Plus if you lived 30 miles from the border like I have you would be better educated on the type of people fleeing across it, their worldview is vastly different from the typical American's outlook on life. Your statement 'stay in school' is irrelevant to anything said previously and a pretty pathetic attempt to pump yourself up intellectually. Being misinformed and stupid are two entirely different things and you would know that if you, yourself had stayed in school. Oh and on a side note- at trolling, you fail XD

TFNJ not that I calling you a bigot or a racist or poor white trash, but exactlly what does "illegal" look like? Olive skin? Dar eyes and dark hair? Probably speaks spanish? I guess I must be illegal since I fit the description. I also served 22 years in the UNITES ARMY, so don't ASSume because you think something is true it is so.

Again I had to stop on the first line, since its a clear lie. The picture of both of them is there at the top. You clearly saw it since you are now switching your focus to only him. Pathetic...

Your first dumb post said that THEY were most likely illegal. Now it changes to HE MIGHT be illegal. Believe me, your stupid posts are not hard to break down, and by the time we are done you'll have fully retracted the stupid comments..

I Love It!!!

Proud American Veteran, open the link and look at her. I'm being realistic in looking at a person and picking a race. That woman is clearly Caucasian and using his last name because of marriage.

Plus, I have a strong hunch that if you read this entire conversation carefully from mjolnira's dumb post, you will realise you just misread it all. I'm DEFENDING the assumption of illegal, as you just did in your post.

Signed Tony, a Latino from New Jersey.

I retract nothing, immigrants from third world countries have a different worldview from Americans-fact! You evidently are taking it personally as your ethnicity is Hispanic by your statement 'a Latino from New Jersey'-what you SHOULD have wrote was 'an American from New Jersey'. Being proud of your ethnicity is silly as it is an accident of birth and not something you choose, plus it is in itself discriminatory...being proud to be an American is a choice, if you aren't then f*cking leave America. I am not proud that I am a woman or of mixed ethnicity but I am proud I am an American.

Signed Mjolnira, an American from Missouri

You do that, and when you show me your Honorable Discharge papers from the Marine Corp, that I can show you, then you can feel you are a bigger American than I am.

Apparently being proud of my ethnicity is NOT silly, since you would assume I am an illegal immigrant from hearing my last name. For proof, see your first post here. You are also VERY wrong about what it means to be American. No one said you couldn't be an American of an ethnic group. But those points would be too difficult for you to comprehend, so I'll let you soak on those. I'm not taking the comment personally, I take stupidity personally. I find it hard to deal with dumb thinking.

Your next to last line makes no sense, since being a woman has nothing to do with being American. I would say nice try at twisting the conversation, but that was just dumb..

You have already retracted, and as I said, you will continue to retract. You are deflating slowly.... I'm a genius, I know these things.

Whatever gets your dick hard man. lol

Point Proven!! Thanks for playing, better luck with your next debate.

I don't know what you think you have proved. 1. I stand on what I say 2. we differ in our opinions and 3. get over it already! The fact that you have to go to ever-reaching extents in a futile effort to 'prove me wrong' is simple-minded...there is nothing to prove. You know nothing about me, or my heritage nor MY military background and trying to insult my intellect to try and boost your own is hardly something a genius would do--more like the act of an insecure and impotent person. With that said, I bid you good day and hope that you find a more rewarding way to empower yourself than on a public forum LOL

hasta la vista baby!

Lol, you would have left and not replied if you didn't feel beat. And its "proven", not proved. We don't differ on opinions, you don't really have one. You just made a blanket dumb statement, and then softened it down when you saw proof of your flaw coming.

There really isn't much I want to know about you, you said it all in your first post. I get empowered by bugging people who don't think before they post, you are right for the first time here today.

Oh jeesh give it up and get a life. They are both illegals and probably can't raise one child let alone 5. They are on their way to Arizona to sell the kids for drugs or take them across the border for child sex slaves. I could go on, but you get the drift hopefully, stupid does as stupid says. Now, who cares what nationality they are, why jump to conclusions like the cops, maybe the older kids did do this, what has siblings done to younger ones for generations? Let the investigation go forth and the truth shall set them free. AMEN and GOD BLESS

Signed Tony, a Latino from New Jersey.

I was in your town today, looked for you, didn't find you.

When? You posted this saturday. Tell me next time and we'll have some lunch.

You mean you looked for Tony in NJ? lol, lots of them.

Let me take this opportunity to clear up a few things. Both parents are legal U.S. citizens and these are their own children. New information regarding this case is coming to light every day. Deborah's family, her parents and siblings are lovely, gracious, intelligent, kind, loving and hard working human beings. His family washed their hands of him years ago. This is a case of Stockholm syndrome, abuse, corporal punishment and intimidation all driven by the father, Adolfo (known as Junior) and has gone on for years. Thanks to the intervention of someone who saw something that did not seem right and reported it, the abuse of Deborah and her children has come to and end. No one here is really a winner. No doubt all will pay dearly for their part in things. Sadly, the children will pay the biggest price. All are safe now and with professional help and counseling all parties involved may begin the healing process. Please continue to pray for the children as they have suffered greatly in all of this.

mjolnira and tfnj, you guys need to either @!$%# and make up or shut up before I hose you down and smack your noses with a rolled up paper.

This was never a race article, this was an article about 2 small children being mistreated. Grow up.

Or both.

TFNJ, I will be in NJ 6/29. I meet the manchilds father at a diner on 33, we should do lunch.

I'll note it down. Let me know bout what time. The diner close to the turnpike?

Yes, by the gas station.

K, let me know where you'd prefer.

Yeah so what if one of their upstanding patrons decided to snatch the kids? Lucky the police got there.

Ruken,

It's Chicago. Their citizens (and leaders) tend not to be what I would call upstanding citizens. Does that sound any less ridiculous than your comment?

They were from Chicago it hapened in Kansas and they were headed to Arizona Bill...

Exactly!

Home in Illinois, on their way to Arizona, and was stopped in Kansas because of a car problem and were jailed because of "child abuse/endangerment". Investigation to reveal a final destination of.....Mexico ?

Crimson - need a hand?

Even though the last name is Spanish, does not mean they are from South America. What about Spain, Phillipines, etc, etc. Obviously, Ido is one of the less shining examples of teh American education system.

Now about the bozos that did this to the kids ... Horsewhip them in public!!! Seems like no-one respects the law anymore, and the only way that is going to change is to bring back public punishment!!! We can start with floggings and the stockades.

And people with Spanish surnames have been living here in the southwest for better than 500 years, before the US even existed. Arizona didn't even become a state until the last century. It belonged to Mexico for a lot longer than it did the USA.

Who the hell cares where they are from or whose parking it was that they left these kids in? It doesn't change the fact that they still tied up two kids and left them blindfold in a parking lot. Yes it can provide background and some context in to why these nutjobs would do this and I agree certain environments are more likely to breed whacko's than others, but this isn't just confined to one group, weirdo's come from all places. They tied up two kids for crying out loud and left them in a parking lot, lets focus there first.

It will be intersting to hear what their "reasoning" was to do this. Like another poster above said, for the life of me I too can't even come up with a thoguht as to why they would do this, regardless how skewed their perception of reality might be.

Whatever it is, I hope these kids can find a more loving home and environment to grow up in from here on.

And we want to argue about providing birth control???

It is time

It is time....my first thought was also "birth control". If you can't take care of a child then keeping your effin legs closed and your pants zipped. Is that few seconds of pleasure worth bringing a child into this world that you care nothing about and are willing to leave tied up and blindfolded??? And the poor babies left in the truck were too scared to come out???? Lord help my soul!!!

@Pat - Filipinos fall under South East Asians. Latinos would fall under the countries of Mexico and any and all territories below their border (with the exception of Jamaica, Trinidad, the Bahamas and Cayman Islands).

Whilst Mexico is technically a part of North America, it is still a nation populated by humans of Spanish descent. Basically, Spanish names have this very powerful recognization about them, that anyone can tell whether someone is Spanish by merely looking at their last name.

What I couldn't stand ldo doing, however, was insinuating that these guys were illegals - all on the basis of a last name. He/she has done it before, but the article usually stated such, so they had an excuse. Not here, I'm afraid.

Thus why I jumped on the chance to call out ldo on it - I couldn't do so prior. But here? "Cat's out of the bag" as they say.

It helps to pay attention.

Have you ever received an email from a friend with the caption "Walmartians" Have you ever people watched in a Walmart......OMG.....scarey stuff. However, the Walmartian emails are hilarious, but again kinda scarey too.

What their legal status is doesn't matter one bit. What is more important is that they are child abusers.

I was watching a show the other night about some scientists predicting that Humans will eventually evolve into two separate species. One, highly evolved, more intelligent/logical. The other, less intelligent, more apt to resort to violence to settle matters.

The more I look at the world today, the more I see it already starting.

I wonder why the older children allowed their younger siblings to be subjected to this and just sat in the vehicle without helping them. I don't think we have the whole story, but I am sure it was an abusive set of parents, otherwise the older kid's would have intervened, but felt that they couldn't.

I can agree with you Janine. And what's more - evolution theories state that every species filters out the undesired aspects of its existence in their own way.

While I cannot say for certain how the filtering of the human race in the common day will be, I have a good feeling it won't be pretty.

Besides, what does one's own existential shell matter in a case like this? I'd like to know what scared the older ones (not the parents) into not intervening. If they didn't intervene, they must've had one hell of a good reason - or my name isn't Crimson Cujo.

I'm thinking WalMart is getting a bad rap. I've watched People of WalMart. There are an uncommon number of wack jobs shopping there but how is that Wal Mart's fault? Free Enterprise.

The American way.

Has anyone considered the possibility the older kids in the van had a hand in this? I am the youngest of 6 and my older siblings did some pretty horrendous things to me (all in good fun). Just saying....

@Peechy Rose: After I got over the horror of thinking about children being tied up and blindfolded, I wondered the same thing myself. Although I was older than my brothers, there were 3 of them. They used to like to tie me up to things while they played teenage mutant ninja turtles and pretend they were rescuing me. I wanted to play so I let them. Although, it sounds like the older children were the ones tied up. Were the parents afraid the older ones might try to escape and tell people that there was something going on? I'll be very curious for more information.

@CrimsonCujo: what the heck does Romney have to do with this? I'm not finding a link between this story and him.

Janine: There is a movie that explains it all. "Idiocracy"

Why use birth control when the Government will pay you to have kids?

Yeah that doesn't happen anymore. To even get cash assistance you have to actually have proof of looking for work at 40 places a week. I know people enjoy perpetuating that myth for some reason but the only thing you get more of for having more kids is food assistance. I've worked in social services for 20 years. Things have changed.

Will bow to your knowledge however I also see housing assistance, anchor babies, medicare, etc. Public Health for 12 years. Want to know how many apply for "Special Needs Assistance".

Yeah that doesn't happen anymore. To even get cash assistance you have to actually have proof of looking for work at 40 places a week. I know people enjoy perpetuating that myth for some reason but the only thing you get more of for having more kids is food assistance. I've worked in social services for 20 years. Things have changed.

Thanks for the facts. I'm guessing things changed when President Bill Clinton signed The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act in 1996.

40 places? Really? I don't think so.

F Walsh...exaggerate much? Nobody is going to be reasonably expected to apply to 6 jobs per day in order to receive assistance.

Unemployment only requires you contact 2 employers a week, and they rarely ever check up on it to make sure you're keeping on pace.

I personally know that in the past a social services worker was told by her supervisor to "sign everyone up for everything, that's our job security" when someone who she processed did not qualify for the program. Also know that someone walked past stores with "Help Wanted" (this was a while ago) to go into an almost empty store and ask if they were accepting applications. Obviously not. SO she had them sign papers that she had come in to apply for a job. She told them welfare made you WORK for your check now. I came so close to telling her "Why not, the rest of us have to." Abuse of the system like this is why our governments are bankrupt.

FWalsh - besides exaggerating - I think you are not counting the Medicaid that pays for EVERYTHING -including the carseat and the WIC that feesd them for the first 5 years - then free school lunch and breakfast kick in. Why would people want to work? All are great resources and definitely there are those who use these appropriately but mostly they are ABUSED and it needs to stop.

OH HECK! They must be Foster Parents! Blowing through the 100's of dollars they get from the state!

If being on assistance was so great, no one would work at all & everyone would be on it.

Why don't y'all just quit working & try it out for yourselves? Live that life of Riley up close & personal.

Since no one seems to have a clue what it entails.

WIC is not Medicaid, nor does it completely *feed* any child; it's a nutritional program to provide formula, juice, dairy, & protein products to children in the most critical stages of development.

Medicaid doesn't pay for *everything* & certainly not carseats (they are not a *medical necessity* like a wheelchair); it has co-pays just like any other health ins & the eiligibity threshold is so low that few ppl qualify for it. Most of Medicaid goes toward elderly & disabled care.

Schl breakfasts are pretty much a bowl of cornflakes & a half-pint of OJ, while schl lunches might entail 8 green beans, 4 slices of pear, a half-pint of 1% milk, & a hot dog; certainly not a meal that's really worth the $2-3 being charged for it nowadays.

In NY, ppl on cash assistance have 90 days to get a *real* job or they work for the administering county's various depts in exchange for the cash, so it's not a *free ride*. And your total net worth to qualify for cash assistance must be under $1000, & that incl the Blue Book on a vehicle. For SNAP (AKA food stamps), it's under $2000, but they graciously *exempt* a vehicle over 9 yrs old.

I guarantee that by the close of that 1st mo living so *high off the hog* as y'all seem to think it is, if not sooner, you'd be begging to have your job back. Good luck w/ that in this economy.

The school meals may not be great, but they're free! And the comment about medicaid "copays" made me laugh out loud. Unless the system has changed drastically in the past few years, I happen to know from working at a dental office that medicaid patients don't pay a dime! The govt gives the provider about 1/3 of the fee charged, and the provider writes off the rest. Yes, there are things that are not covered by medicaid that patients may have to cover for themselves, but they don't pay for any preventive care. Even with my dental insurance, which I consider pretty good, I still have to pay out of my own pocket.

wrong comment, sorry

@scar tissue- So totally agree with your post!!! I would dare one of them to ever try it since they think they're going to be "living the life"!!! And the sad thing is most just re-iterate what someone else told them like 10-15 years ago. Like anyone on the state really wants to be on it. I know people that are college educated that have gone down to apply for food stamps because there are not any jobs for them to fill. In my state they have the Social Services office next door to a Job Works program and more people still have to use Social Services. And it's not for a lack of looking to obtain a job. It's the fact that there are not enough to go around. And sorry to break it to many of you righties on this thread, but this is and has been going on for at least 10 years. My state: Connecticut.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the "parents" sexual orientation probably has nothing to do with the child abuse in this story.

I definitely agree with you! But i guess that's my point, sexual orientation has nothing to do with good parenting.

You know its bad when the Illegals are running back to mexico lol

Parents: you kids are disrespectfull and lazy, were taking you back to mexico where you'll learn to appreciate things.

Kids: hell no we won't go!

Father: momma go grab the rope, you kids will go if i gotta tie you up n drag you with us!

Kids: mmm fhhhh aaaa mmmffff ffffaaaa (gagged)

I hear you Mike. Sexual orientation does NOT have anything to do with child rearing. Common sense, love, continuity, and patience are the things needed to raise children.

I hope those two parents get the maximum punishment for this.

Wow Christy i didn't know the mall still had 'Glamour Shots'!!

You know its bad when the Illegals are running back to mexico lol

So you automatically assume that because they were on their way to Arizona and have a Spanish surname that they're illegals. I have friends in Arizona whose family has lived there since the 1700's.

They're primarily of Native American ancestry, but they have a Spanish surname. So I guess in your eye's that makes them illegal, too. So let's deport them back to where they came from.

THAT'S WHERE THEY CAME FROM!

why r u making this about being gay and why is anyone making it about them being Mexican, the issue is child abuse which happens in every culture in the world. and u have no idea how this is going to pan out. mabe they were stolen, or mabe one of the teenagers were playing a prank or mabe they are horrible parents and need to be locked up. so keep your predjudices to yourself and lets hope they find out the truth and these children get help. please excuse my spelling.

Christy, I really hope you can stand eternal suffering in hell. Because despite how similar your name is to Jesus' last name, he is outright furious at what you've just said.

Not only that, but I'm outright furious that you failed English in Middle School - your sentences were chock full of grammatical errors.

Wanting to get your message out quickly is NO EXCUSE for being lazy. And you call yourself American?

Pshhhh. Girl, please. Give me a break.

They were just trying to get out of Chicago before the weekend gunfights break out.

CrimsonCugo, you should know that Christ was NOT Jesus' last name.

My parents just threatened to drop us off at the local children's home.

or you could say 'typical Chicago-ans"

"Typical hispanics"

Typical welfare types. The store had nothing to do with it. Neither does their culture or place of origin. This issue deals with the epidemic of abusive and neglective parents.

Kodian - go back under your rock.

Way to make an ass of yourself!

Kodian - I'm willing to bet most of them can at least spell Wal-Mart.

Note to Kodain: Your ignorance is appalling. Even though I'm not gay, I have friends and family that are. And while their good conscience would prevent them from outright smacking you, I might actually be tempted to do what they would not.

And FYI, the people at Wal-Mart might not actually want to work there. They may only do so because, oh wait, they actually have a family to feed and bills to pay?

You begrudge them the right to work simply because of WHERE they work, but then you have the gall to call these people welfare simps when you just denounced the one place they WERE working at as a legitimate source of income?

I smell a hypocrite.....

Kodain - you are a complete moron.

What's with all of the Wal-Mart stereotype? Americans don't shop at Wal-Mart? Ummm, maybe I'm the idiot here but it happens to be the nearest, get anything you need store to where I live so, yeah I shop there on occasion. I am an American and do avoid it when I can but sometimes it's necessary! I just can't stand so many people nothing to do with the kind of people, sorry you think you're holier than thou, Kodian!

my question... sounds more like something a sibling would do. Why leave three in the car and the two youngest tied up outside?

Let's hope the older kids did this and that there is much more to this story. Considering the older kids ages (old enough to babysit), the parents really didn't do anything wrong IF the older kids bound and blindfolded the two little ones. If the parents did do this, my bet would be their crazy, not stupid. Disturbing no matter what exactly happened.

That is what I was thinking.. And the dad went lil bit crazy when he saw what was going on and they zapped him..

I would look at the older kids

As soon as I saw the ages of the two bound kids, and the ages of the three in the vehicle? That was my thought as well. I can easily see the older one's pranking the younger siblings while parents are in the auto department of the store looking for parts to repair the vehicle. It's all fun and games until your parents go to jail and you wind up in foster care.....

The story is too open still. Why tie and gag those two and not the rest? And what would be the purpose. And were the kids scared to come out because they did it as a prank, or did someone else do it to the kids? I have a feeling maybe the parents might not have been responsible for this. I think further investigation is in order with this one.

So who leaves small children alone in a car in a parking lot? I never would, too much could happen when they are alone like that. It's not unusual to hear about kidnappings, car thefts, abductions, or any number of awful things that could have happened to them.

I'm trying not to judge the parents right on anything but what has been proven, they left those kids to fend for themselves in a parking lot. I hope it isn't as bad as the article implies but we've all heard of parents doing terrible things to kids. I hope more information is made public soon.

You are right Firefly. You use more logic than 99% of peopel here. If there were teens in the car, what need would the parents have to tie the kids? I assume that all other posters assumptions is that they tied them so that they wouldn't run while they shopped. But the teens in the car, and the fact that the little ones were outside the car, blows that story away.

Use Logic!

The dad was probably agreesive and was tazered because he saw police activity around his car when he came out and panicked. The stupid cops assuming the worst tazed him without looking at details.

Couldn't agree more with the older kids doing it theory.

Being the youngest and having all brothers, I've been through stupd crap like that too while they were supposed to be watching me. The Dad probably had one of the biggest WTF moments of his life and then got tasered..

If they don't take the kids away from these parents I think some kids are going to get some well deserved abuse.

thank god some one can see past the media BS and bad reporting, Two younger kids bound and blind folded out side of the car, while three OLDER (meaner kids)sat in the car. cops show up they are scared @!$%# less because they know they are in trouble. Dad being tazed yea probaly tring to whip the three older kids ass. i hope that this story will be followed up on. But if im wrong and it was the parents, hay hone are you cooking bacon i hear something frying.

Hadn't even considered that alternative explanation, but it could easily be true. I remember some of the stupid things my friends and I did to our younger siblings when we were that age.

So who leaves small children alone in a car in a parking lot?

Seems like 2 of the 5 were teenagers. Hardly *small children*.

Are teenagers now judged unfit to look after younger siblings for a few min while parents are trying to get the car repaired so as not to derail the family vacation?

Scar Tissue.... I was thinking the same thing! They are definitely old enough you would think but if they pulled this off they definitely weren't raised properly to do so!

I also have a feeling it was the older siblings, not the parents involved. The older kids probably had to watch "babysit" the younger ones, they were annoying so the older ones tied them up outside for peace. Sibling do horrible things to each other all the time. Please wait before judging.

Don't make turn this gd car around!! :)

I didn't see your post, and typed pretty much the same thing below. With the little ones OUTSIDE the car, I would almost suspect it was the teens that did this. Stupid thing to do yes, but the story and people are assuming it was parent neglect.

I'm going to guess that an updated story will soon say it was the teens.

I agree, I jumped to the conclusion that the parents were real stupid jerks. It could also mean those teenagers were really stupid if "they" did it for a prank. I really want to know what the police find before I do make "another" assumption.

What stands out to me is the kids OUTSIDE the car. I would imagine if the parents were truly abusing the kids and tied them to keep them quiet, they would have been IN the car.

Doesn't make any sense to me either. We will have to wait on this one.

Run, T, run.

You mean I should be running instead of sitting here typing in news stories? Lol, you are right. Few more minutes and I will get up.

Eat lunch after you run.

Lol, nah I'm at work. After lunch I walk around the complex. I work out at night.

Oh Mike just stop! Everyone knows it takes a man and a woman to have a baby. Duh. PLEASE, explain how statistics could bear you out. Yes many Gays come out after having children and gays are allowed to adopt in many states after stringent background checks and personal references are checked. Logicly this would truly mes with statistics.

Are you calling Grump gay?

OMG. It takes a man and a woman to have a baby? Not everyone knows that, obviously.

Nah, T. He/she/it has me figured wrong.

C'mere, grump, I'll show you how it's done.

Lol, I know. Just picking on Mo for posting something in the wrong place. But its all working for the best, Tam wants to demonstrate how its done.. lol

I was only offering to help a friend!

I can feel the love.

Media would say anything to stir up the pot!

I find your comment more credible than MSN's article. I have 3 younger brothers and they weren't immune to pranks growing up. My assumption in this story is the police apprehended the parents first than asked questions later. I'm almost certain, the older kids did this. If anything actually ever came out of this, it would be posted later. If not, the story would be forgottened. You got to love how the news media is so quick to tell THEIR story to gain attention. If it comes to pass as the parents actually did this...it is more proof that stupidity need not to breed!

15 year olds babysit for people all the time. So the same can be said if anything ever happened during one of those times. If the teens tied the little ones, yes that was completely stupid. But the parents aren't exactly guilty of neglect. This is of course not knowing all details. But with teens in the car, its hard to see it any other way.

Good point, TFNJ. But, at least with my 5 kids, I wouldn't have left the teenagers in charge of their young siblings in a car in a parking lot. Too small a space and my teenagers had too little patience with their siblings. They would have sold them for the price of a hamburger and fries.

I was 14 and babysitting. Those teens were just as old, knowledgable about surroundings and what is going on at the time. They had to have known that they should never have endangered their charges let alone their siblings. 14-15 year olds are not exactly airheaded or non-informed as their younger siblings whom I really feel were tied to the car by their older sibs

If this was a prank by the older children, the police would have dismissed it as a non-issue. Moronic people post that 15 is too young to babysit. 15 year-olds are having babies and being allowed to keep them and raise them. Some of you poster are ridiculous.

You sound like an idiot who has never had any children. Both your statements are idiotic.

Orthehighway, its really not clear who you are talking to in your post, since you seem to make two points.

Jan, true. I have a 16 and 15 year old and while I would leave them in charge of young ones at home (if I had younger ones), I wouldn't necessarily do it in a parking lot with many strangers around. But that possibility is there in this case. The police did charge the parents, so I will just assume there is some evidence that the parents either tied them, or knew they were tied. The father's tazering and arrest isn't indicative of guilt to me, as if I came out and saw the police surrounding a car full of my children, I would get frantic too.