Penn State fans always liked to tout the "honor before success" motto under JoePa. If they only knew... More like "PSU football before EVERYTHING". Circle the wagons and protect the brand at all costs was the MO and it all came crumbling down. You can't really talk about Ohio State's free tattoo scandal, Michigan's practice violations, or USC's pay-for-play when the worst crime on the face of the Earth was covered up to protect the program.

Why is a piece of leather being thrown around more important to universities like Penn State, than the welfare of children?

Paterno committed the crimes of Sandusky...as an accessory.

I just can't read this crap anymore, it makes my blood boil. My question is: Why has Dottie Sandusky not been charged as an accessory? These kids were spending hundreds of nights in her home with Sandusky spending hours with these kids alone in the basement. Either she is the most stupid woman on the face of the earth or she suspected or knew what was going on and did NOTHING!! Disgraceful!!

EWUSNRET- Saying it a million times does not make it true. If you truly believe that, you are a fool.

I agree at some point she is going to have to answer for burying her head in the sand.

The one thing we see over & over in these types of cases "Victims are Fair Game"!!!

Sandusky molested these men when they were boys ... and with the help of shyster lawyers masquerading as legal defense providers ... are molesting them once again .......

And after it's all said & done ... the defense lawyers will walk away saying "I gave it my best shot .. too bad I had to traumatize the little bastards again"!

Paterno is just as guilty. If he hadn't tried to hide the fact that his defensive coordinator was fudge packing young lads, there wouldn't be as many vicyims.

Joe Paterno had been told about Sandusky almost 15 years ago. It appears that Sanduskly's problems with little boys were a major reason why Paterno did not want him as a successor. Had Paterno still been alive, he would have had to testify to the various times he was told of Sandusky's improprieties. But with Paterno dead, no witnesses are allowed to relate anything that Paterno said (of failed to say) because it is inadmissible heresay. Even McQueary could tell what he said to Paterno but could not say what Paterno said in reply. When McQueary told Paterno, Paterno was already aware of several other similar allegations. But he chose to do the absolute minimum that he thought he could get away with.

The Penn State President, Graham Spanier and other Penn State officials (as many as 14, including Paterno) exchanged e-mails for years about Sandusky and discussed pretty openly discussed the coverup which was intended to protect the school's and the football team's image at the expense of allowing a child molester to remain "in business." These people need to be packing for some serious jail time. They are essentially "enablers" who, by their silence, helped Sandusky molest every child that was molested after they had knowledge. None of those convicted should be allowed to receive a state pension, including Paterno's widow and Sandusky's wife.

I tend to agree with you newscover, but unfortunately, in cases like this where there is little or no physical evidence, the truthfulness of the testimonies must be tested. The justice system cannot simply assume that the alleged victim is by default telling the truth. There are too many cases (including similar to this one) where it was not the case and the allegations were simply just that, allegations. There was a very famous case like this in France a few years ago (google "Outrault") in which several children accused a number of adults (some of whom they didn't even know) of horrific sexual abuses. From the start the police investigators had serious doubts but a young and ambitious prosecutor took the case anyway. The case went to trial and several people (including the kids' parents) were convicted and went to jail. One of the accused even committed suicide. Later, when police investigators re-opened the case, the kids admitted of fabricating the whole thing. Some explained that after they started making up these horrific stories, they would be punished if they admitted the truth. In cases like this, the justice system has to be thorough and give the defense a chance, even if it is very hard for the victims.

truth seeker

The victims who have testified are not children...they are young adults. They have told complete strangers things they didn't share with their closest friends. They knew each other as children, but thought that what they were going through was only happening to them and they kept it all to themselves. It isn't one or two making these allegations.

There are several who witnessed inappropriate behaviors between Sandusky and a child. Reports were filed, counselors were advised.

Using logic and reason, Sandusky taking children off individually to a facility - after hours, when nobody will be around - wasn't because he wanted them to feel special. Hosting a child in your home and segregating them from your children isn't done to make them feel like part of your family.

You are absolutely right cms5, there are in this case concordant testimonies that make for a strong case. I personally believe the guy is guilty. However, it is essential for justice to be served that all possibilities be examined and that the veracity of the testimonies be tested in court. It doesn't mean that defense lawyers have a good time doing it but what they do is crucial to the probity of the system.

To everyones knowledge Joe Paterno did not know what Sandusly was doing until McQueary went to him and told him what he had seen and heard. Paterno did exactly what he should have done, reported it to the authorities. Should he have followed Sandusky around to see what he was doing or perhaps tied his hands behind his back. And why does not anyone here question why McQueary didn't go to the police, or even call the police, with what he saw and heard? No, he goes home and then calls Daddy to see what he should do. Good Lord the man was an adult!

Chris, I'm curious where you got your information? Not arguing, just asking.

To everyones knowledge...

Here are a couple of timelines that indicate there may have been previous knowledge of Sandusky's issues...

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7212054/key-dates-penn-state-nittany-lions-sex-abuse-case

http://larrybrownsports.com/college-football/jerry-sanduskys-1999-retirement-forced-out/98643

McQueary called his dad and told him what he saw...why? Probably because he knew his dad would believe him. He then told Joe Pa. Did Joe Pa already know that Sandusky had issues with boys and showers? He tells the rest of the 'chain'...which is probably the same route it took earlier. 1998, 2001, 2011...how many children?

Chris is incorrect.
State URL's to prove what you are saying about Paterno knowing about the '98 incident.
I've read extensively on the case, and NOTHING has said Paterno was informed about that incident prior to McQueary, much less "exchanged emails about it".

If not for Paterno telling what he knew a day after finding it out, and Paterno going to the head of campus police, Sandusky would STILL be on the loose. Paterno's testimony to the Grand Jury is the ONLY reason Sandusky was brought to justice.

No Susie, he did not do what he should have done. He should have gone to the police and NOT just the campus police. He should have made absolutely sure Sandusky no longer had access to university facilities. Being a simplistic old man is not an excuse for failing his repsponsibility as a human being. Further, your statement that "To everyones knowledge Joe Paterno did not know what Sandusly was doing until McQueary went to him" is broad, sweeping and unprovable.

The one person no one (except ESPN) has gone after in all this is Gov. Tom Corbett, who's role in '98, his authority over Ray Gricar at the time, and in his anxiousness to lay the blame on Paterno in 2011, is all HIGHLY dubious.

Unlike most university police, the Penn State Campus Police is a licensed authorized Police Dept. for the State of Pa.

I have looked at the sites that cms5 posted and nowhere in those sites do I see that Paterno knew of anything going on prior to being told by McQueary in 2002. And Bluelake, sorry to disagree with you, but when Paterno reported what he was told to VP Schultz he was reporting it to the head of the police department on the campus, so yes he did do what he should have done. And a big thank you to yes1fan for verifying what I was about to tell Bluelake that the Penn State Police force is an authorized police department almost as large as the police force in the surrounding area. And as far as Sandusky having access to the gym the story relates that his access to Penn State and the gym were rescinded.

Bluelake you are also right that my statement "to everyones knowledge...." is broad and sweeping, I should have said to most peoples knowledge.

I am not sure why Sandusky thinks that these men are looking for a monetary reward. There is no money in the world that can compensate the pain and suffering of these victims.

If he goes to jail, he should get the same treatment that he gave these poor victims.

There's a special place resereved in HELL for Sandusky -- Right next to Joe Paterno.

The problem with our justice system is the truth must only be brought forth by only one side the prosecution. The defence can being in innuendo and accusation as the defence attorneys don't have to pay any penalty for it. The police are there for both parties to use if the defence finds something they should send the police to investigate like the prosecution. The courts are for the truth and only the truth and that should be for both sides not just one that is the only way justice will and can be served fairly.

The 1999 Curley e-mails just released indicate that he believed that Paterno was told why Sandusky was barred from all Penn State athletic facilities due to the 1998 incident. While Paterno denied any knowledge prior to 2002 in his only public statement, wouldn't it seem a little strange that your former defensive coordinator was barred from your facilites and you don't know why?

Paterno asked Sandusky on several occasions in team meetings to stop bring young boys to the game and referred to other people about Sandusky's "distraction" when young boys were around. This was apparently cited to some people as a reason why Sandusky was retiring.

As late as summer 2009 Sandusky was still hosting overnight football camps on Penn State athletic facilities that required Paterno's approval. This only stopped in 2010 when the grand jury investigation got uinderway.

I realize that Paterno denied everything except one phone call from McQueary and one to Curley. But I do not believe Paterno was being truthful.

Here's a quote:

"According to the grand-jury indictment, the first time Jerry Sandusky was investigated on suspicions of sexual abuse was back in 1998. On May 13 and 19 of that year, detectives from the Penn State and municipal police departments hid in the home of the mother of an alleged victim and listened in on conversations she had with Sandusky, conversations in which Sandusky admitted that his genitals might have touched her son, and that he felt terrible about it, saying "I wish I were dead." Then, on June 1, they interviewed Sandusky in person. Shortly afterward, for unclear reasons, the case was dropped.

Research on papers housed at the Paterno Library on Penn State's campus turned up much about Paterno's schedule at that time—his commitments, his cancellations. And a pattern emerges:

You will find, if you dig into his archives from 1998, that he was a very busy man—he wrote in one letter that he had "committed all my free time to" and was "really stretched" by the ongoing fundraising campaign. You will find that he was a very reliable man as well. When he planned to do something, he would do it. In fact, if you look at his agenda from 1998, you'll see that he almost always kept to his schedule, and that his only cancellations fall within a very narrow window of time.

The first cancellation is on May 15, two days after police listen in on Sandusky's half-confession to the mother of a young boy. That evening, Paterno cuts short a fundraising trip to Valley Forge, then cancels a four-day-long personal vacation he had been planning to take from May 16 to 19, to his summer home in Avalon, New Jersey. He resumes his scheduled fundraising trips in June, about a week after the investigation against Sandusky is dropped. He doesn't miss any more events for the remainder of the year.

The following season, Sandusky abruptly and unexpectedly announces his retirement."

There are literally scores of stories like this with varying amounts of detail. These stories stopped when Paterno was hospitalized. None of the investigation into Paterno will be released and none will surface in the trial because, with Paterno dead, his words are inadmissible heresay. There is no smoking gun that absolutely proves that Paterno knew about Sandusky, but all Peterno's actions point to his knowing. Joe was well-known for knowing everything that went on in his program and would sometimes astound people with the stories that he shouldn't have known about.

The University of Illinois, Chicago has a fairly large police department. By written agreement the Chicago Police may not operate on campus unless requested to do so. Like the Penn State Campus Police, UIC police are duly authorized with powers to detain or arrest but can do little about off campus law breaking. Since a great deal of Sandusky's pedophilia took place off campus, reporting this to campus police, no matter how powerful they are ON CAMPUS was a half measure at best. And since Schultz has now been indicted on perjury charges it seems to have been a futile gesture entirely. I'm sorry but Paterno should have gone beyond the authority of a self serving campus police department. Chris' post is even more damning in regards to Paterno. Well done Chris.

I have to wonder why the mother of that little boy would allow her son to spend the night at Sandusky's house. What normal adult man invites boys to his house for sleepovers? Why would any parent send their kid to sleep at Sandusky's house, alone, over and over?

Another thing that seems strange is why the mother never noticed blood in her son's underwear. Some people really have their heads in the sand, apparently.

Disturbing to see these Penn State fans trying to excuse Joe Pa. You people have absolutely no morals or human decency. This is disgusting. Is a freaking football program the most important thing in the universe to you? The honor of Penn State and the people of Pennsylvania has been stained for generations to come. The football program there should be abolished. If you can more about a fraking game than you do children, you don't deserve to have a team for your entertainment.

Paterno is dead. Nothing to do there. Get this guy. And I think the wife had to know what was going on she should be investigated and charged as an accesory.

First off Chris-749391 your post about Paterno's schedule is absolutely fabulous.

Secondly Susie Cue-4302731 Joe Paterno often boasted how NOTHING went on in his football program that he did not know about. After making those claims for 40+ years you don't get to play dumb when things go wrong.

@kaybeetoys: Coaches have been known to invite kids to their homes, especially if there are supposedly going to be other children present. We don't know what spins he told the parents. As far as the mother not noticing blood in her son's underwear, did it ever occur to you that the boy hid the underwear and later threw it away? That would be my assumption since he had to have been ashamed and afraid of his mother finding out what that sick POS did. Said POS probably told the kid he would rape and kill his mother if he told anyone what was going on. The man should be tied to a post and lit on fire.

wrt Sandusky, the thing is even his defennce doesn't sound all that great. Statements such as saying he only had showers with little kids, "but there was nothing sexual involved" fly in the face of any sense of reason what so ever. He had no business having showers with young kids, who aren't even studennts, in Penn State facilities. To say that such actions would be inappropriate would be to put it mildly. He didn't belong taking a shower with them, and any comments about atheletes this or that, they ween't students of the school (one would have to be pretty danged adnvanced to be in college at 13 years old as a student), they weren't atheletes in his program, and since when do coaches even shower with their own players?

His own rationale to try to explain it away, is just wrong on so many levels, beyond stretching any sense of credibility, it really doesn't paint the picture of a guy who's much better then what he's being accused of. It is not appropriate, for college officials, to bring under age kids into the locker room, at his place of employment, and shower with them. Nothing he could think, reason, or explain, would make this any more appropriate, his conduct was not reasonable regardless of any explanation. If that's his defence, he has none....

Now as to Paterno, the thing that should really bother people, is that Govenor Corrbet has mentioned that he was familiar with the case in 1998 when he was attorney general. Obviously, a report would have gotten to him from somewhere. But where is his accountability in any of this? Whatever Paterno did or didn't do, he's now deceased, and can't speak for himself. But for a politician to on the one hand blast him and lay ALL THE BLAME on the dead guy, while not answering to his own accountability in the matter as AG, is kind of disgusting. But then again it would also be politically convenient to lay it all on a dead guy, while side stepping any questions wrt to his own failure to do anything at the time. I just wonder when he's up for re-election, what his response to it will all be.

Will it be something like, Sandusky is in jail, and Jo Pa died under my watch as govenor, vote for me again, and never mind if I did anything about this when I was attorney general? This would be PR at it's worst... The govenor should have to give an accounting for what he did or didn't do about any of this, himself.... Because when all is said and done, even if Paterno knew, and Corrbet knew as well, for Corrbet to call Paterno out, while side stepping his own failue to act as attorney general would be a bit like the pot calling the kettle black ;)

Predators know exactly how to and what to say to keep victims quiet. Sometimes they follow through with their threats, too.

Final prosecution witness testifies Jerry Sandusky forcibly raped him

This man needs to be given the death penalty imo. This just makes me sick, and it makes me even sicker knowing the old mudderfudder Joe Paterno and the police campus covered up these crimes, and I am sure their families (wives) knew all about this.

They need to remove the Joe Paterno statue at the college. Old Joe lucked out and cheated being prosecuted thru death, but if he were alive today, his azz should be in prison for life as should Sandusky's.

@kaybeetoys: Coaches have been known to invite kids to their homes, especially if there are supposedly going to be other children present. We don't know what spins he told the parents.

Certainly a coach might invite kids to his home for the afternoon or for dinner, Alaska Girl, but Sandusky was not the coach of those boys. Why was he inviting them to sleep at his house? Maybe I'm over protective but I wouldn't let my child go to a sleepover if the invitation came from an adult male rather than a friend his own age. Maybe I'm too suspicious, but I'd have to wonder what the point was of having my child sleep at some man's house. It's weird, just as it's weird that Sandusky showered with kids.

Maybe if parents opened their eyes and their minds, their kids would be safer. The best policy is to err on the side of caution.

I agree that Penn State fans who defend Paterno should be ashamed of themselves for putting a sports team ahead of the welfare of innocent children.

And Tom Corbett should be made to answer for the part he played in letting Sandusky continue to molest children for all those years.

A few things: What the hell is wrong with the parents of these males? Who the hell let's their kids spend the night with an adult male that is not a trusted family member? How the hell is it that they didn't notice a drastic change in their children? Really, the coaches wife didn't know any of this was going on? I find that very hard to believe.

I don't want death for the scumbag. I want him put into the general prison population where he will be beaten and violated on a daily basis until the day he dies. I wish the same for Tom Corbett as well. Sadly, thanks to Liberals twisted minds, if Sandusky is sentenced to prison, he will most likely be placed in protective custody. I say "if" because now they are claiming he has some kind of mental illness. Well no @!$%#! Normal people don't do this crap. I don't care what kind of "illness" they claim the scumbag has, he knows right from wrong. He wouldn't have threatened the boy's lives if he didn't. He wouldn't have been secretive about it.

You have to put yourself in the shoes of the mothers and/or fathers of these troubled children. A very famous, affable Penn State coach - with a bunch of kids of his own - asks your son to his home for "slumber parties" with his kids. Your kid is in dire need of a "father figure" and to have his self-esteem boosted. You hear "my kids", "slumber party", "we love your son", etc., etc. These are all typical grooming patterns employed by pedophiles. They prey on the weakest in society, and the most needy. Children who crave attention from a male figure are particularly vulnerable. Couple that with gifts, tickets to Penn State games, seats on the sidelines, etc. It's the perfect storm. Everyone who ignored the signs, did not question Sandusky's actions/motives, ignored information such as McQueary's discussion with Paterno, cops who were bought off or turned the other cheek - are all culpable in the molestation and rape of these young boys. Sandusky should spend the rest of his natural life in prison. Those who can be prosecuted should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Those who did not actually break laws, but didn't want to "shame" Penn State or Paterno - better be looking over their shoulders for the Karma truck for the rest of their lives.

Sandusky was assistant coach under college football legend Joe Paterno and thought to be heir apparent to succeed Paterno. He also founded The Second Mile, a worthy charity serving under-priviledged and at-risk kids. He wasn't Creepy Fred that lived on the next block that took inordinate interest in young boys.

Impoverished or single parents of these kids most likely felt pride in a child that seemed worthy of Sandusky's personal attention. The over-nighters were to be spent with the family of a distinguished father with children of his own. None of them could have possibly imagined the horrors visited on these kids in a basement alone with a child molester. The few boys that may have hinted at abuse would likely be chastised for making such accusations against a great benefactor.

All of these factors combined explain the misplaced trust of the parents and reluctance of these kids to step forward. Coupled with Sandusky showering these poor kids with gifts and privileges ( that they had never before experienced ) to buy their silence explains the monstrosity of Sandusky's deeds. There are far too many incidences, spanning far too much time, reported by far too many victims to leave any reasonable doubt about the facts of the matter. Sandusky is getting his due day in court and we must trust that he will face just punishment.

Both sides talking about the parents of these kids make good points. On one hand, they were from 'disadvantaged' backgrounds, and without the molestation/rape would probably have gotten a great opportunity to learn football from people who really knew their stuff. On the other hand (and no, kaybeetoys, you are NOT too suspicious or paranoid), parents should NEVER let their kids stay with an adult that isn't...well frankly I will never let my female or male children stay with any male who isn't their father or grandfather. Possibly an uncle, but maybe not. There are way too many men with sexual proclivities towards children or young people to make me not suspicious or paranoid of pretty much any male. You can say I am "man bashing" all you want, but look at the statistics. The overwhelming majority of pedophiles and rapists are men (yes there are some women too), and frankly, when I hear stories like this, with other "good" men (like Paterno, and even Mc-whats his name, who walked in on the rape) basically standing idly by and allowing this to continue, it makes me feel very untrustworthy of the entire gender. Too often "good" men (and I mean MEN, not as in mankind, but males) will stand by their 'buddies' when they know they are sexual predators (Rothlisberger for example). I will never understand why real men, good men (cause they are out there somewhere) don't stand up, shout, scream for bloody murder, demand for heads on pikes, when they hear about other men raping women or children. Too often, the turn their heads, "slam lockers so they knew someone was there", blame the victim (she wanted it, why didn't they say something sooner, why did they keep taking football tickets) or just live in denial (women do it too, that guy would never do that). Please be honest, males are the majority of sexual predators in our world. The numbers are staggering. Sure there is a woman here and there scattered in the mix, but to deny that men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators of horrible sexual crimes against children and women is just naive and ignoring of the facts. Until we wake up as a people, and more over, until MEN stop other MEN from this kind of behavior, nothing will change. Clearly, women and children do our best to fight, but still we are raped and our children are molested. For all the REAL men out there, please stand up and do not excuse the behaviour of Paterno. "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke).

(Sorry for the slight rant, its just infuriating that this keeps happening...over and over. We need to protect our children. I hope these young men get some justice).

Are you aware that most violent criminals were raised, absent a father figure, by a single mom or raised by an extremely domineering mother? I am not condemning single mothers or excusing deadbeat dads. I am merely stating facts. You might want get off your feminist high horse and give your husband the opportunity to have a hand in raising his kids. One of your own may be the next Jerry Sandusky or Ted Bundy. Of course, you may blame it on the fact that he grew up to be a disgusting man despite your "best" upbringing .

Our perceptions are undoubtedly colored by our own childhood experiences. Once I spent the night with a girl friend and neighbor, sleeping in a bedroom with her and her sister, when their father came and stood in the doorway of the darkened room, stark naked.

I never liked that man and never trusted him. I never wanted to be anywhere near him. But I didn't tell my parents what he had done for many years afterward.

None of us has a perfect childhood. No one is a perfect parent. But anyone should be suspicious of a man who showers gifts and special privileges on their child. The more famous and powerful the man, the more suspect he should be, in my opinion (Michael Jackson is a good example).

I was one of the poorest of the poorest. I was a fairly bright little boy who was the oldest of six impoverished children. I worked hard to improve my life and especially the lives of my younger siblings all my young life. I had many selfless benefactors that led me along the way out of love and compassion. Not a single of one of them one of had ulterior motives.

My paternal Grandmother first led me at the age of three. My Dad's oldest sister, with a boy my own age, took me under her wing at the age of five. My mother's oldest brother introduced this fatherless 8 yr. old boy to accompany my cousins (his sons) in many adventures, including learning how to swim and later skinny dipping in a local pond while he caught up on reading a book. Mrs. Adams, of the local small grocery store, took great pride in the fact that I could total a list of a dozen items faster than her mechanical register. A piece of penny candy and her proud smile was more than ample reward to keep me performing over and over again. Mr. Hannah, the local restaurateur, would often serve me a very appreciated free hamburger when I stopped in during slack periods to engage him in conversation. Mrs. Warren, my fifth grade teacher, was a saint unlikely to be encountered by generations of young students. She and her husband are largely responsible for my outlook and success in life.

My point is that Jerry Sandusky harmed far more than the reputations of those that walked at his side. He harmed far more than the souls of his innocent young victims and subsequent guilt-ridden parents. He tore at a fragile fabric of society that needs selfless benefactors of the under-privileged and vulnerable youth more now than ever.

rape him once shame on you ...rape him a hundred times...oh well...he must like those game tickets...

Sandusky is a chickensh!t. He has already stated that he wished he was dead. He will put a bullet in his head before he sets foot in any prison!

I will venture a guess as to what happened to the prosecutor, he was bribed for his silence, and it continued as long as he stays hidden and presumed dead. I am also guessing that Joe P. had it in his will to send money to some man whose name is not the prosecutors but is his alias now that he has been in hiding all these years.

Maybe now he will come forward and shine the light on just how deep this pedophile conspiracy goes. The laptop was missing its memory card, he kept that as insurance because there is incriminating evidence on it and it has been keeping him alive but hidden.

This book will be a best seller, I am sure. The conspiracy that went from the locker rooms, the basement, the college staff, the board of directors and now the Governor of Pennsylvania. It will be proven as more witnesses and evidence comes to light.

Wonder where Sandusky was on the night the prosecutor disappeared?

I am sure there were a few late night meetings to discuss their plan of action and how to protect the football program and the reputation of the school. Sandusky is pathetic and they covered it up because of their need for power and winning. They kept him on because by now all of their hands were dirty and Sandusky would cry like a baby if they turned him in, he would cause the school bad press and they may have had to lose their standings and be kept out of games. They were all too deep in the cover up to do anything else. They hoped no one would find out and that they could keep it to themselves. McQueary happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, but the staff managed to cover it up until he got a conscience and asked questions and contacted outside non-Penn State people. I also agree that Dottie needs to be an accessory to the deeds and after the fact. All hands that were dirty need to be held accountable in court and with fines and jail time. No one should be acquitted or forgiven.

In no way have they said that the dissappearance of the prosecutor, 7 years after the allegations were reported to him, is connected to this case. You people need to stop making such ridiculous statements that are not backed up by fact for crying out loud! Simply irresponsible!

countless boys and their families could have been spared this horrible event had the 1 person who seems to be getting a pass on his actions or non action. MCQUEARY this is a man w/no bal@# seeing a child being molested,slamming a locker door and walking away,failing to contact police immediately,w/the excuse he didnt know what to do, and u can include his father who said he didnt know what to do, "so tell someone else let them handle it "as far as im concerned mcqueary should be included w/sandusky's prosecution ,charged w/being a sorry excuse for a man, mcqueary could have stopped years ago this ago yet when a young boy needed his help he turned his back on him,,? is will psu reinstate him when this is over?

@jb2222,

Being an apologist for Sandusky is tantamount to advocation for child molestation. But slamming the guy who broke the story wide open is stretching a little to far.

1) McQueary was just a kid himself. He was in a very awkyard situation because he was a graduate coaching assitant with a very tenuous future in college sports. And he had caught a guy who was still being talked about at Paterno's heir apparent in illicit sex. He did break it up by simply announcing his presence by making noise. But all of a sudden, his entire future was at risk.

2) The first think that McQueary did was call his father. I wish all kids had as good sense. The father confirmed to McQueary that he had to do something regardless of the consequences and suggested that he call Paterno to get it handled. For a graduate coaching assistant, calling the head coach at home was not something he had ever done before.

3) Paterno told McQueary that he would handle it. And Peterno bucked it on to someone else. Once McQueary told Paterno he had done all that he was legally required to do.

4) But unlike Paterno and others at Penn State, McQuerary did not just let it ride. He went around Paterno and went to the Penn State VP in charge of the campus police and told him all about it. So, McQueary DID report it to the head of the campus police. He didn't do anything wrong and gave no one any reason to fire him. If Penn State were to fire him at this point, it had better be accompanied by a check in 7 figures or he wil sue them withy very good justification.

Every person who knew about Sandusky and did nothing is an accessory to every child molestation that occurred after they were told of Sandusky's activities. Firing Paterno summarily and asking for Spanier's regignation immediately were absolutely the right things to do. The current investigation would have swept up Paterno along with up to 17 others and is a long way from the fat lady singing.

Trying to lay even a tiny part of the blame on McQueary shows a lack of critical thinking ability. And the very worst thing that some people are doing is contending that the victims are in it for the money. There is no way for a victim to get money on a criminal case unless he is compensated from a victim's fund (something thet Pennsylvania does not have.) And none of the victims have sued Sandusky, any Penn State official, or Penn State itself at this point.

When you side with Sandusky, you are stooping to condone one of the most reprehensible kinds of criminals --- one who preys on the most helpless and unfortunate among us --- poor kids. If you want to side with people like that, I seriously don't want you within a mile of my grandkids. The people on here who are defending Sandusky, Paterno, and the Penn State people under investigation and who are blaming McQueary or the victims should be sitting in defendant's chairs right next to Sandusky.

5) McQueary is still on the roster at Penn State and is still drawing paid leave. He will almost certainly be back this fall as Penn State tries to rebuilt and sweats out possible NCAA sanctions including the so-called "death penalty."

Oh for the love of God! Stop making excuses for McQueary!! He's a spineless b****rd and was NOT a kid himself. It is unfathomable that anyone from the age of 18 upward could WALK AWAY and leave a child to be raped! Making excuses for him makes you just as morally corrupt, I suggest you check your own level of critical thinking abilities. He was 26 almost 27 years old and he slammed his locker and walked out! Who the F*** walks out on a 10 year old being raped!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not to mention he was big enough to smash Sandusky's face into the shower wall! ARGH!!!!!!!!

Chica - settle down. 26 is still a kid. My kid is 30 and he is still a kid. He consulted his father for pity's sake and took his father's advice. He did what he could -- I believe it. He had probably heard the rumors, but was not sure and was shocked when it came to proof. He knew he couldn't ignore it, but he didn't know how to handle it when it was thrown in his "face." You give it a rest - for the Love of God!

Until you are faced with that situation, you don't know what you would do. You're at work...this is an ex-assistant coach - the founder of The Second Mile. Are you really seeing what you're seeing? What action do you take and still keep your job? Who's going to believe it? For some...the ability to take immediate action is delayed. For others, instinct kicks in and action occurs immediately.

Unfortunately for this child...McQueary did not save him. The same could be said about the janitor who allegedly witnesses oral sex. Why didn't HE do something? He was worried about losing his job....not the child.

On Mrs. Sandusky...too often children tell their mother what dad did to them when they are much older. Children make the perfect victim. They don't realize that what is happening is wrong. They think it's only happening to them. They think mom already knows and doesn't care. They get things they want. Mother's don't want to think that the man they married could do that to a child. Mrs. Sandusky will deny it even if he's convicted. Come to think of it...Sandusky will deny it even if he's convicted. Quite the pair, wouldn't you agree?

chris-749391 (a) explain where i defended sandusky or am an advocatefor child molestation (b)yes i slammed the guy for doing nothing as i would anyone who witnessed it ,didnt do what must rational people would do (report it immediately to the police)and than waiting yrs to come forward (1)i quess a 20something grad asst is a kid to u ,the ones i see on the sidelines look like men to me. (1a)so what ur saying is his football future was more important than those boys are & will go thru( great choice on ur part,they can tell themselves each day @ least mcqueary has a great future ahead.(2)thats what i said the father didnt want them directly involved so pass it on to someone else(3) i hope people who see a crime being committed would report it ,if not legally required a least morally(4)as stated before how many yrs before he came forward, (5)apparently u have trouble w/reading comprehension ,again nowhere am i defending sandusky,i think he should get the worst punishment that came be given, bottom line ,what u dont seem to understand is that he could have been stopped yrs ago, if mcqueary just went straight to the police.i am not a psu,paterno or avid football fan ,u say u wouldnt want me within a mile of ur g-kids ,its people like me who would run to save ur g-kids if we saw them being molested not someone who would make a noise and run away, how can u be so confused on my previous comment,the only thing i can think of chris, ur last name must be mcqueary

@hopeisnotlost... 26 is NOT still a kid. So you're saying your kid at 30yrs old would walk out and have to come and ask you if he should have left a child in the locker room to be raped, your response: "yes honey you did the right thing, go tell your coach and never mind that you just left a 10 year old to be raped". Give me a break "for the love of GOD!" And I suppose if it was your son in the shower at 10 being raped you would be patting McQueary on the back saying "hey thanks bud for leaving my kid in the shower with Sandusky, I know you're only 26 and were a little confused, you poor thing!" Maybe ask your son if at 30, he would have walked out and left that poor, terrified, innocent little boy to fend for himself with his hands splayed out on the shower wall? If he says yes, I say you failed as a parent. No offense.....

chicagogal-678037 thanks ,,, u responded better than i could

Wrong again Chris. McQueary did not go to the head of Campus Police - Paterno did.

@cms - BS!!! If I saw some disgusting old man anally raping a 10 year old kid - there would be absolutely NO doubt what I would have done! Sandusky would have felt either my fists or whatever blunt object I could get my hands on, upside his head - many many many times. He would have been, at the very least, bleeding profusely and unconscious on the shower room floor! He would also no doubt feel the toe and heel of my shoe on various parts of his person as I called 911.

@hopeallisnotlost: Now see Arizona-Buckeye's response? That is how a normal, compassionate human being would react. So either you are a troll or a brainwashed Penn State football thug.

No offense Chicagogal, but McQueary didn't molest the child...Sandusky did. While McQueary's actions may not suit what you deem to be acceptable...he did exactly what his father told him to do and reported it. How much time passed from the time he realized what was happening to the time they left? I'm not too happy with his father's advise...but it can't be undone or redone.

Where's your anger at the janitor? Didn't that case occur well before what McQueary saw? He didn't call his daddy...he just told his co-workers. Small talk in the break-room.

Too often it is difficult for anyone to believe what they actually saw when it comes to crimes against children. Once they do realize what they saw was real...just who is going to believe them? Pedophiles rely on that reaction. It gives them time to come up with a reasonable story.

@CMS: This isn't about the janitor now is it? But we could all start a thread about them too if you'd like. It's reprehensible that you would make excuses for someone who left a 10 year old child in that shower in that situation. He knows what he saw CMS, or how could he be a witness to what he saw????? Let's see, when the cops come, after you beat the crap out of Sandusky and leave him for dead like Arizona would (good job Arizona :)) and you have a naked 10 year old (ugh makes me want to vomit) by your side, ummmm I think that the COPS would believe you no?

@Chicagogal

It should be about innocent children being molested and adults witnessing that abuse and doing 'nothing'. Apparently, to you it is about anger and rage toward an adult who did not react as you deem appropriate. I am not defending McQueary's actions...or lack thereof, nor am I making excuses. I tend to look at the entire picture...not a small portion.

Getting ones panties in a bunch over 'shoulda, woulda, coulda' does not erase the horrendous crime committed upon a defenseless child. As they say, hindsight is 20/20.

I personally would have taken action...I wouldn't have beaten Sandusky, but I would have removed the child immediately and called the police. I would get the child's name and his address. I would have used extremely delicate language with the child to lessen the trauma. BUT...regardless of what any of us would have done, it doesn't change what happened to that child.

@cms

The meer fact that this one situation (one of many, but this particular one is what we are discussing) doesn't raise the anger or rage inside of you, makes me question your critical thinking(as a McQueary advocate points out in an above post) ability I guess. I see you are trying to play devils advocate here and are trying to come to terms with the entire realm of the situation. You have the right to voice what you think or don't think is a reasonable and responsible action taken by McQueary.

As a parent, McQueary is the pinpoint where this terrible, terrible situation could have been turned around or stopped in it's tracks. As a parent, I can't imagine ever forgiving someone who left my child in a locker room to be raped and walked off. That's the way my mind reads the situation, along with many others as I read the various threads. IMHO, one should be angered and enraged when it comes to pedophiles, the accomplices, the spineless who failed them and the cover ups. They should ALL be held accountable including his nutty wife. There is NO free pass for anyone involved and there really are no words that could express how horrific this situation has been for those kids, now adult men. From McQueary walking out on that poor little boy (still so difficult for me to imagine) all the way up the chain, these kids were epically (if that's a word) failed. I respect your opinions however do not agree with them. So we should leave it at the agree to disagree stage. I have to "unbunch" my panties now :)

@Chicagogal! As I said to you in comments yesterday, I am so right there with you on this! When I even think about that complete coward, McQueary, and his half assed slamming of the locker door to get them to stop, it makes my f'n blood boil over. I haven't kept up on his situation, but if he were working in any school I would remove my kid because he is not a man to be trusted to do anything to stop a rape. I hope he at this very time in his life feels that his life is completely worthless. The man should walk around the rest of his life in shame for what he let happen to that poor poor child. Can anyone even imagine what that poor boy must have been feeling? Knowing that there was someone there who could have and should have helped him, but instead walked out of the locker room. My heart breaks just thinking about the pure despair that boy must have felt at that moment. Someone, please hand McQueary a rope and tell him to find the nearest closet with a pole and use it.

Shock, disgust, and surprise can make people act in strange ways. If someone had gone to MQ and told them that there was a boy being raped in the locker room, my guess is that he would have gone in there with smoke coming out every orifice and it would have been a blockbuster news report. The surprise of finding his boss, Sandusky, and a kid having sex would have put MQ in a state of shock, disgust, and fear. He thought he was going to see two college students having sex. He didn't see what he expected to see from what he heard and was overwhelmed. I actually believe that, under different circumstances, MQ would have acted in a different manner. The guy did what he could and now will suffer the consequences of his inaction at the time. He was not the perp!!! Don't take the focus or responsibility off Sandusky. It would be wrong and disrespectful to the victims.

Chicagogal--- why are you and some others so focused on McQueary in this case? He was a low level assistant at PSU. He had no power or influence there. He told Paterno who had all the power and influence plus the reputation of being MR RIGHT. Telling Paterno carried more weight than telling the police especially the PSU police. The blame lies with the administration including the athletic dept and especially Paterno, who had more power and influence than anyone on campus or in that part of the state. I believe this was covered up for the sake of the almighty football program and it's almighty head coach. This is the most dishonest and disgusting scandal in the history of sports.

@Dandaman

I was focused on the McQueary "part" of the situation, I wasn't rebutting anyone who said Sandusky is the scum of the earth. It is not questionable whether Sandusky was right or wrong, he's a grotesque monster at every level. This much everyone agrees on. It's just MY opinion that when people advocate for McQueary that he didn't know better or he was shocked or he knew the coaches kids and parents and didn't know what to do, that it's a BS cop out. But lets remember, this is my opinion and no one has to agree.

No matter what anyone could possibly say in his defense, I honestly, truly believe that it was a reprehensible action/decision that he made when faced with that situation, in my opinion of course. It seems to me that it would be a natural reaction or gut instinct to protect the innocent, especially at age 10. At least that's what I KNOW I would do. Let's face it, I'm all of 5'4 and 135lbs and would probably get my ass kicked, but I wouldn't even think to leave him there without trying. As Alaskagirl points out above, can you just imagine how he must have felt (sigh :'( ), ugh it just makes me nauseous to even think about it. I agree with the rest of what you have to say other than McQueary. Sorry, it's just my opinion..

Has anyone even wondered where that 10 year old boy is today? He may be DEAD.

Think about it. Sandusky gets caught with a little boys fudge on his prick. He thinks it is all over for him, but instead McQueary just glares at him and walks out! He quickly gets dressed and gets out of the building with the kid. His heart beating hard, he drops the boy off at home, then he goes home, scared, knowing the cops will be there any minute. After a sleepless night looking out the window, no one comes for him. The entire weekend goes by with no phone calls or a fleet of police cars coming for him. Now he has time to think. He has to get rid of the kid so he can't confirm what McQueary saw what he thought he saw. He gets the kid away from his home without the kids mother knowing, then kills the kid and gets rid of the body. When the Administrators call him in to their office to find out what happened that night, he comes up with some story that the kid was his grandson or something. Maybe he produces a different kid to say nothing happened. Regardless how it went down, Sandusky gets away with getting caught having anal sex with a little boy.

That kid hasn't come forth to say it was him, so it is possible he is no longer among the living. Thanks to McQueary, a little boy who should have been rescued, wasn't.

And, Chicago, you have a right to your opinion. I have worked for 38 years with traumatized people and the first thing I hear them say is "If only I had....". I am a retired nurse and worked part of my 38 years in two prisons. I have heard many rape victims say: "I should have died before I let that happen to me." I understand your opinion and I think I may have said the exact same thing several years ago. Today, I feel that it is hard to understand or condemn some people for their lack of action when they are taken by surprise and looking at a reality that they didn't see coming....It takes some time to process all the crap that is going thru their minds at the time. Still, he could have done better...but that was an experience that he will never forget and it will define his actions in the future. It may make him a better man and it may destroy him with guilt.

@Chicagogal

When I first heard about McQueary looking into the eyes of the child I too was filled with rage and disgust at a young adult leaving the child and calling daddy. I can assure you that my son at that age would have called daddy AFTER he had rescued the child and called police. Time has passed and my anger and rage is now directed at the person who placed children in that position. I realize that people react to situations differently. Far too many people do not want to get involved.

I can also assure you that I am not one who hesitates so I believe my 'critical thinking abilities' are somewhat above average . I have taken action in many different scenarios. Men arguing, a woman screaming at her teenager, a boss belittling his employee in public, a teen purchasing alcohol through an adult and confronting a man who took inappropriate actions against my little sister. That man lived across the street from us...had 5 children and was a friend of my parents. My parents didn't believe my sister, but I did. All 15 years of me walked over to him and I told him if he EVER touched my sister I would call the police and let them deal with him. Years later we find out this man had been molesting all of his children.

We can all play couch quarterback and scream about what we would have done. NONE of our action talk saves that child...or the many other children Sandusky assaulted.

@colorblind

It's becoming apparent that there are 2 kinds of people, which we can safely say is becoming blatantly obvious in these threads. Those that would never, ever think to leave a 10 year old in a shower with an egregious pedophile and those that would have to think twice or process the situation while they're laying in bed tossing and turning from the days events. I just am not the latter, I know with 100% certainty it would be gut instinct for me to react immediately. Comparing traumatized rape victims to McQueary really doesn't seem to be an equal comparison in my opinion but I think I get what your trying to point out. I do however agree with your last comment other than he should have and not could have, in my opinion:

"Still, he could have done better...but that was an experience that he will never forget and it will define his actions in the future. It may make him a better man and it may destroy him with guilt."

@cms

I'm sorry to hear about your sister and the other 5 innocent children and good for you for marching over there. However, this is a discussion thread and I was responding to a couple of posts initially above mine which were regarding McQueary (in response to your action talk comment). I know that what I say won't make a difference (obviously), I was just venting my frustrations which I know not everyone will agree with but then that's the beauty of free speech. This "fraction" (McQueary) of the entire scenario is what makes me upset and is what I react too, I don't disagree with anything else anyone says about Sandusky, Paterno, his looney wife etc.. As a side note, I'm glad to know your son wouldn't have left him behind :) It is my opinion, that pedophiles should receive the death penalty and the justice system is to lax on them and their atrocities, so it makes me mad when there's one time, just ONE in your life you could have helped the situation and you walk away. It just gives me the creeps and makes my hair stand on end, to think about someone who was 26 yrs old, 6'5 and 200+ pounds leaving that poor little guy in that locker room :( Guess that's the maternal instinct kicking in...

@Chigagogal

Thank you. The entire situation with Sandusky makes me ill. I could never have been a juror...not because I have already formed an opinion and wouldn't look at the entire case, but because I have a very low gag factor. I would be tossing cookies into a bucket often.

The prosecution has done a good job showing the classic patterns and behaviors of a pedophile. The victims have done an awesome job with their testimonies. I hope that they find extreme strength and peace in having confronted the man who committed such egregious acts upon them. Even though McQueary didn't stop the rape...he did testify strongly.

Next week will be difficult as the defense attempts to cast reasonable doubt. How many jurors have placed Penn State and all that is attached upon a pedestal? Have they heard so many disgusting and unbelievable things that they will grab onto the 'upstanding community leader' picture that the defense is sure to paint?

@cms

I agree wholeheartedly with the vomiting in the bucket, ugh! I'm not sure if my stomach could handle that information either. I'd be banned anyway because I would be sobbing right along with the victims. It's so, so sad :( As BP the Grape points out above, I wonder what happened to that poor little soul from the locker room :( If he's alive, in hiding, dead or destroyed from the inside out. I wish he would come forward, maybe he has and he's just being protected. Bless him, poor child (now adult) and all the other victims, it's just so sickening. I have to say if there is even one juror on that bench that puts football before those victims, I think I'm might collapse from shock.

According to the defense a while back, they have located that child and he denies anything that McQueary has claimed ever occurred. The difficulties if they call that young adult will be identification. Sandusky took many boys into the showers, and as he has said...he didn't seek sexual favors from ALL of them.

Better yet, let someone do it for him. POS

He should be forced to run up and down the football field with his victims passing live grenades to him.

I'm sorry, but a bullet or a grenade is too humane treatment for this sociopath. If the accusations are true, he should be mercilessly tortured using the most horrendous method every written about in the scariest book ever!

Here are some ideas, tie him to a table and, without any pain killers whatsoever, remove each and every tooth with a pliers. Then, pull off each and every fingernail and toenail with the same pliers. Then, with a pocket knife just keep slicing up his skin. Then, how about a little super charged jolts of electricity? Then, release the rats on his sorry ass. They will slowly chew him up. That's as far as my imagination will take me today, folks! LOL

AlaskaGirl....you need meds, for sure.

If this is truly how you feel, I can understand why you live in Alaska....

Sarah Palin would be proud.

Where is Dexter when you need him...

AlaskaGirl

Dang -thats pretty brutal but not undeserved. But who's going to do it? Maybe the dads or moms of the victims.

Anyway, BestGore might be good for you.

Oh, Jet, get over it. I was just having fun, you know fun?!

Paterno did NOT cover up anything. He is a hero, not because of football, but because he placed education above football. He emphasized STUDENT in the term "student-athlete". THAT is what made him a hero.

Right, sex education. What flavor is blue and white Kool-Aid?.....Oh yeah, Kool Aid's for kids. Silly rabbit dicks are for chicks. Soap fight, soap fight, don't drop the soap!

Holy Moly...Joe Paterno is a hero???? Whatever,,,not unless the wins v. losses are something that makes your world rock! duh, it is a football game. get a life.

He did whatever he needed to do to protect the school, the image, the program and most importantly, the recruting program. How would he encourage any parent to send their boys to good ol Happy Valley? He may not have covered up anything, but like most good Catholics, he remembered the "sin of ommission". It is the "I did not lie, but I did not tell the truth either" syndrome.

Can anyone here tell me why Sandusky retired so early? He had years to go in Paterno coaching terms?

Maybe he and Dottie saved up to remodel the basement and she wanted it completed, sooner rather than later?

Penn State University needs to be held accountable for the coverup. The Big Ten should expel them from the conference. This is far worse than anything Michigan or Ohio State ever did.

On paper Penn State is tied with Stanford for having the highest athlete graduation rates in the country. But under that the story of how that happens is very little told. At Penn State and other big football skills, male football and basketball athletes do not go to regular classes with everyone else unless they specifically choose to do so. They are taught, usually one-on-one by special "instructors" who are employees of the athletic department. Their tests are created and written by "poctors" who are employees of the athletic department. Student athletes who bolt for the NFL or NBA before graduation are not counted among those who failed to graduate.

A good example is Cam Newton at Auburn. He switched colleges and went to Auburn to avoid criminal theft and assault and battery charges in Florida. Auburn didn't care even though he was an NCAA-illegal transfer because of the theft charges being unresolved. A wealthy Auburn alumnus gave Newton's father around $150,000 (on which he paid taxes) to get him to come to Auburn. Wealthy alumni paid into Colonial Bank accounts that they could tap with a special ATM card. (This came to light in a gambling/bribery investigation that used the same method, among others, to get bribes to politicians.) But Cam Newton was a junior in good standing when he led Auburn to a national championship. His GPA was 3.2 at Auburn. But when Newton went to the NFL "show and tell" because he was a quarterback, he had to take a Wunderlich test, a sort of IQ test. Because Newton was "functionally illiterate" he had to have the test administered orally and made one of the lowest scores ever by a football player.

Paterno is not so much a hero as one who would do anything, including allowing little boys to be sexually molested serially, to win football games and to protect the image of the Nittany Lions. Maybe Penn State's mascot should be changed to a naked 9-year-old boy. Hero? I don't think so.

Everyone is flawed no matter who they are.

Susie...There are flaws and then there are FLAWS!! Criminal behavior and/or covering up said behavior is beyond flawed. It is just wrong. It is what happened here and no one can make that go away with a cliche like "Duh, well no ones perfect, you know."

paterno was no hero he was a self centered old man that should of retired 15 years ago. now he is burning in hell waiting for the homo pedophile and big red the locker slammer.

It seems that Paterno died at just the right time.

Because Newton was "functionally illiterate" he had to have the test administered orally and made one of the lowest scores ever by a football player.

Many football players are illiterate and have really low scores. Taht does nto matter to coaches and Uuniversity administrators that give them FULL scholarships, and then they GRADUATE.

In the meantime, they make it almost impossible for anybody else to attend College without spending a fortune by getting in deb, raising the tuition every year to actually SUPPORT people like Paterno and Sandusky, that make millions of dollars in their "careers"

If you have a child in College, you should know that most of your money is ging to pay for ILLITERATE men, that can hardly read and write, but that can play football.

I hope one day Sandusky burn in hell. No one there for the young kids when they screaming for help. I am so sad how many lives he destroyed.

I wish people would quit saying they hope someone burns in hell because there is no such thing. If there was really a god, he would just allow little boys to be screwed for all those years. Sandusky will probably live for another 15 years. What is him burning in hell going to do for boys with bleeding anus's? A serial murderer can kill hundreds of people, but when he dies many years from now he will be sent to hell for eternity? Meanwhile, there are hundreds of people no longer living, and their families and friends are mourning their deaths. Sounds like a shiddy deal to me. It's also just a ridiculous fantasy. The people who were killed, just went away to nothingness. And when the bad guy dies, he too will go away to nothingness.

No one has first hand knowledge of heaven or hell. And no one has actually seen god appear and help someone out of a jam or fudge packing. While there may be a god, he doesn't protect anyone from anything.

I have heard many Penn State fans refer to Joe Paterno as a God.

I never knew how alike God and Joe Paterno really were in one particuliar aspect.

They both sat back and allowed young boys to be molested by Jerry Sandusky.

Now there were many other people who allowed this to go on but I have never heard any of them referred to as gods.

Someone needs to look in to our current governor's actions during this time also.

Lord don't get me started on Dottie Sandusky. She was more concerned we'd think she made these kids eat dinner in the basement like "the help" or something than about the actual abuse allegations. She's messed up.

I wonder if anyone has questioned his adopted sons? 5 of them?

ry...Generally, not always, but most of the time, pedophiles do not have affairs with grown men. They like children...prepubescent children. They often have a "cover" life, but they don't like grown men or women....because they like the control and power over children and children are much more easily manipulated then adults.

Dottie Sandusky certainly knew which side of her bread had the butter...she kept her mouth shut because she didn't want to kill the gold-egg laying goose. She is either the most stupid, naive woman EVER, or she's just plain stupid.

Suits have already come.

I don't think sandusky will be allowed to walk in the prison yard with the rest of the convicts. They will keep him nice and safe and warm.

Tarzan, I don't think the prison guards will give him any special treatment. Unless you are a former cop, or seen as a threat to other inmates, you are usually in general population, at least for some time. And I think he will know exactly what his victims felt, probably over and over. Look at Jeffery Dahmer...he was a cannibal, and they didn't keep him out of gen. pop. He got taken care of pretty quickly. Even among thieves and criminals, there is a special place for pedophiles...they are not too welcome in the prison system, and I would be surprised if he lasts 6 months in prison.

You are right, It is awful they have to relive- but they are being SO brave for coming forward. This bastard should have been stopped years ago. I'm sure there are alot of Sandusky fans, that just don't want to accept the fact that he was a MONSTER!

These victims deserve a huge amount of praise. Originally they were told that their names and faces would never be revealed to the public. But once they had completed the discovery process, they were told that their names and identities, including their pictures and video of their testimony would be public knowledge. At least a couple tried to pull out at that point but were warned by the judge that they would be called anyway. I agree with NBC/MSNBC and a number of other media outlets that have refused to name the victims or show their faces. One of Murdoch's sleazy rage or Fox will undoubtedly "out" them, but for the time being I am all for protecting their identities and trying not to add too much insult to injury.

ColoradoE....I don't think that there ar3 too many Sandusky fans out there at the moment. Good for the victims for coming forward, but I agree that their identities should be protected.

They are not only having to relive the abuse, but are being forced to defend themselves as to why they didn't tell. They are made to look like little adolescent gold diggers. What troubled boy wouldn't want special tickets to "the big game?" It must be very, very hard on these young men. I hope they get through this intact and are able to get on with their lives.

There are a lot of Sandusky's yet to be caught I would bet. Those Catholic priests that got caught are the same as Sandusky. Perverts. There has to be Really Tough penalty's for this kind of thing. Not just a couple years in prison and then let out for good behavior.

Tarzan...I know you are right...I mean I actually know you are right. They should receive life sentences---there is no treatment available to change a persons sexual preferences regardless of what you read on the vine about castration. The underground testosterone market has seen a surge since they have been giving inmates Depo Provera (chemical castration) and even surgical castration will just result in rape by instrumentation or killing the children so that they leave no witnesses. Sandusky has learned by now that it is not a good idea to leave witnesses and should never see a day of freedom again. Good post.

Colorblind--had no idea they used Depo as chemical castration. Thanks for the new info! And agreed, these people should not be let out...and I think they should still be physically castrated. Even if its not a deterrent. There is really no punishment severe enough for someone who rapes or molests children. I'm not much of a believer in heaven or hell, but I sure hope there is somewhere 'special' for these people when they die.

You mean like you did when OJ and Casey Anthony walked? Balderdash!!!!!

Me too! What will it show our society and all the other sick Perv's out there. That they can get away with this crap.

Isn't half the Jury from PennState in one way or the other??

More likely Gricar's ultimate boss had him "removed".
The bridge in Lewisburg Pa, where Gricar disappeared, and off which they found his hard drive and laptop on opposite sides of the bridge, recently burned (RR Ties).
Wonder if someone got worried about evidence there?

yea, but we all know he will be protected in prison! High profile! Bastard!

this is just disgusting all the way around. nobody wins. and we ALL lose. Mr sandusky probably wont be isolated in prison. remember...they even put jeffrey dahmer in with the regular population. we will hear of his demise while he is behind prison walls

Colorado, it just takes one guard to turn their head at the right moment, in the shower perhaps, and he is toast. I would be surprised if he lasts 6 months in prison. He may be high profile, but that didn't stop inmates from taking out Dahmer...

I used to say "just shoot the basta** and get it over with", but shooting is too good for this freak.

I agree with mycats, just put him in the general prison population and let his fellow inmates deal with him. They will administer the kind of justice that everyone wants done.

Inmates don't take kindly to somebody who's buggered little kids, and will give jerry his due.

I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for his wife, she is in complete denial about what she knew,heard,or saw,which makes her almost as bad as her husband. They make a good pair eh?

Does this monster have children of his own? If so, wonder how they're dealing with the fact their father is a pedophile of the worse kind.

Jerry Sandusky. Dead Man Walking.

How many times have we heard reports of children being molested by a family member & no one knew? Too many to count. So, how is it unbelievable that she didn't know? Molesters are good at hiding their crimes. We've seen it over & over again. You probably know a molester & don't know that the person is a molester.

seriously...did they have lead walls from the cold war in there home? how could she not know? never saw or heard anything unusual? give me a break, she needs to go on trial also..I agree..

I believe she didn't WANT to know anything. This whole thing is seriously screwed up.

Wryview

It seems to me that you have skewed sense of reality. You think Paterno is a hero. You think Dottie didnt know what is going on. Please! I hope every person that knew Sandusky and were aware of his behavior with boys is prosecuted.

Victim #4 testified that she basically caught Jerry in the shower at a hotel with him and he heard them arguing about what Jerry was doing. Another victim said in the grand jury testimony that he was screaming in the basement and he knew she was up stairs. It's highly unlikely she had no idea what was going on.

Wryview, you have a skewed sense of reality. Joe Paterno is a hero? Dottie Sandusky had no clue?

No both Joe and Dottie are responsible. They chose not to stand up and do the right thing.

It is sad. I have two sons and I hope that Sandusky will be punished to the fullest extent.

Yup, Dottie is just another enabler. Didn't want to lose the Penn State spotlight and all the perks that went with that. She needs to be the subject of an investigation and if warranted arrested just like her sorry a$$ husband.

He will not last in prison. He will literally reap what he sowed.

Hopefully they will send him to a real prison and not a country club prison.

I agree, those poor kids. Why didn't anyone stand up to the Penn State Machine? I'm sure this guy has been molesting children and raping young boys for longer than the 15 years that are currently being questioned. You just don't decide late in life to become a child rapist/molester. Who knows, maybe he was molested also, I don't care if he was, hope those kids win a HUGE settlement against him and Penn State, and for him, there is no punishment horrible enough to fit his crime.

It would not surprise me that after its all said and done, there aren't dozens of victims out there...

Sadly, they may all choose not to come forward...

Whole lot of wild speculation going on about Paterno.
Paterno had ZERO influence over Gricar, whereas as Pa. Attorney General at the time, Tom Corbett could ORDER that the investigation be squelched (among other things). Corbett, a PSU Board of Trustee member, showed up for his first meeting ever there, to make sure Paterno got fired.

JoPa probably had a lot more influence that you think he did - hell, you've got people out there that actually (still) think he's a hero!

A hero gets a lot of attention, and a lot of being kowtowed to. Add to that a nationally ranked football team, and you've got the perfect storm of 'Paterno worship'. They're all members of the Good Old Boy's Club, and many of THOSE people are members of the 'Penn State OBC' to boot.

I'm actually surprised anything is being done at all, but something inside me says that Sandusky is being made the fall guy on this one (how fortunate that JoPa died, and doesn't have to deal with any of this mess).

How can she sleep at night? How?

I was thinkin' the same thing myself.

She'll have to live with the fact she did absolutely NOTHING to stop her monster of a husband.

But I'm guessing that this cow has had many years to fine tune the art of denial...so what's a few more years eh?

IMO, she's as guilty as her husband.

I agree with the other commenters about concordant testimony. No way these young people could have all gotten together and made all this up. And yes Paterno knew about Sandusky, and covered it up. This article pretty much sums up the horrors that children face these days...

http://www.rosebudmag.com/truth-squad/jerry-sandusky-child-molestation-contraceptives-pedophiles-abortion

This is unbelievable that these men/people were able to continue on for this long period of time, KNOWING well that a molester was among them everyday and did nothing. I echo all the others who spoke about Paterno and his oblivious attitude towards these accusations....He did as less as possible so that he could cover his own butt but at the same time allowed his buddy and the program to maintain a false reputation of honor and pride. Now look at Penn St, the legacy of Joe Paterno and all the other enablers involved in this mess....Let this be a lesson to all who believe themselves to be invincible, larger than life and untouchable....both Sandusky & Paterno wives should not be allowed to reap one dime of retirement monies/funds for the unacceptable performance of their husbands in their professional positions. It's an eyebrow raiser anytime for me when I see people holding positions who are long past their prime and riding the coattails of the yesteryears (Paterno)....That's like paying for a loaf of bread today that was good five years ago....Just doesn't add UP!! Sandusky preyed on these young boys and doesn't appear to have one ounce of remorse. All you Penn St./JP defenders, what if these were your sons being raped by Sandusky over the YEARS.....I would imagine your view of this would be quite different. Any adult that sexually takes advantage of children/teens gets whatever is coming to them....SIMPLE!